1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Well, I'm coming to your city, get saying. 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: You a comfort, und will be high. Tell and if 3 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 2: you want a little banging a yuni, I come along, 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: my dad. 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 3: You're seven expressions anyway, Am I allowed to take any questions? 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: You know what this is? It wasn't just the money. 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: It wasn't just eight million dollars. 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 4: It was also his ego, pride and money is why 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 4: he knowingly violated the rules. 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 5: I believe that the terrorst threat level that we're contending 11 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 5: with right now is at a whole other level from 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 5: an already heightened terror threat level that we were seeing 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 5: even before October seventh. 14 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: Book, believe it or not, only two hundred and thirty 15 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:57,959 Speaker 1: five days left until election days. 16 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 4: Coming to you. 17 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: Saying you a conscious sock. 18 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 6: From coast to coast, from border to border, from c 19 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 6: to Shining Sea. Sean Kennedy is on. 20 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 7: All right, Thanks Scott Shannon, and thank you for being 21 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 7: with us our two Sean Hannity Show told free. Our 22 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 7: number is eight hundred and ninety four one, Sean. If 23 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 7: you want to be a part of the program, we 24 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 7: are awaiting. It's gonna either happen today or tomorrow. At 25 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 7: least according to the judge out of Fulton County. The 26 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 7: issue of Fannie Willis and whether or not she's going 27 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 7: to be dismissed. I think as she should be in 28 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 7: this case for a lot of different reasons. But we're 29 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 7: expecting that to happen anytime. The judge did dismiss part 30 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 7: of Fannie Willis's case against Donald Trump, as a matter 31 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 7: of fact, tossed out six criminal charges in the indictment 32 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 7: and anyway, the Fulton County Superior Court judge's name is 33 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 7: Scott McAfee, and he dismissed six counts against six defendants, 34 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 7: three against the former president, on the grounds that charges 35 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 7: weren't specific enough. But that's only the beginning, of course, 36 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 7: of the problems in terms of the ethical or lack 37 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 7: of ethics surrounding Fannie Willis and her hiring of a 38 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 7: boyfriend attorney with no experience. Let me play for you 39 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 7: if I can. This is Fannie Willis, a montage of 40 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 7: these hearings, some of the highlights that kind of bring 41 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 7: this all into focus. 42 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 8: I've probably had some choice words about some of the 43 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 8: things that you said that we're just honest within this motion, 44 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 8: So I don't know that it was a conversation. 45 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 4: As you know, mister. 46 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 8: Wade is a Southern gentleman. Me not so much, for 47 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 8: I very much want to be here, So I'm not 48 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 8: a hostile witness. 49 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 5: I very much want to be not so much that 50 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 5: your hostileness Willis would be an at first witness here 51 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 5: and are posed. 52 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 9: Aspersions, ranters, are contra contrary. 53 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: To democracy, your honor not to mind. 54 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 2: So let's be clear, because you've lied in this. 55 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 8: Just let me tell you which one you lied in? 56 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: Right here? Thank you lied right here? No, no, no, no, 57 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 2: this is the truth, judge. 58 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 8: And if it is a line a lot, I don't 59 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 8: need anybody to put my bills. The only man who's 60 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 8: ever put my bills. 61 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: Completely is my daddy. 62 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 7: All right, And you got Fannie Willis explaining, you know, 63 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 7: these overt acts and et cetera involving racketeering in this indictment, 64 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 7: which was always an overreach, and the judge seems to 65 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 7: agree with me on this listen. 66 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 8: The acts identified as predicate acts or acts of racketeering 67 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 8: activity are crimes that are alleged to have been committed 68 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 8: in furtherance of the criminal enterprise. Acts of racketeering activity 69 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 8: are also charged as separate counts in the indictment against 70 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 8: those who are ed to have committed them. 71 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 7: All right, joining us now to delve deeper into this, 72 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 7: we have our friend Greg Jarrett, Fox News legal analyst, 73 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 7: New York Times bestselling author Bill Jacobson, Cornell Law professor. 74 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: Welcome both of you. 75 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 7: So are expecting, you know, some type of ruling on 76 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 7: this any minute, maybe today, maybe tomorrow. At some point 77 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 7: we're going to get it this week according to the judge. 78 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 7: But we do have these counts dismissed, Greg Jarrett, And 79 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 7: then the question is, you know, what will the judge do? 80 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 2: What should the judge do? 81 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, the six charges dismissed by the judge, 82 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 4: we're always legally unsound in a petitioning government officials to 83 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 4: take action is not by itself a crime. In fact, 84 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 4: it's a protected right under the First Amendment. Here, Donald 85 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 4: Trump and others to mandage Georgia officials re examine the 86 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 4: count challenge electors. That's exactly what Democrats did four years earlier, 87 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 4: and it's permissible under the Elector Account Act. So the 88 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 4: judge here was saying, well, what's the underlying crime, then 89 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 4: where's the evidence to support it? I think these were amateurists, 90 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 4: sophomoric mistakes, basic stuff you learn in law school, and 91 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 4: it underscores the inexperience of Nathan Wade. Certainly, it's an 92 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,799 Speaker 4: embarrassment to Fannie Willis, who was overseeing her lover's work 93 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 4: and for which she was paying him a ridiculous amount 94 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 4: of taxpayer money. The other question, of course, is, and 95 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 4: we're waiting for this decision, should Willison Waite be disqualified? 96 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 4: If you read the Code of Conduct and the Canons 97 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 4: of ethics, this sean is a no brainer. Their sexual 98 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 4: relationship were, regardless of when it started or ended during 99 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 4: a pending case, creates a severe conflict of interest. It 100 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 4: requires disqualification and if that happens, then under Georgia law, 101 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:01,559 Speaker 4: the entire case has to be from the Fulton County 102 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 4: DA's office reassigned elsewhere. Does that effectively kill the case? 103 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 4: I think it probably does, because other prosecutors will look 104 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 4: at this and say, this ain't a racketeering case. 105 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 7: Well, let me ask you, though about the disqualification issue, 106 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 7: which you say is part of Georgia law. What about 107 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 7: the fact that there was testimony in this case from 108 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 7: other people, including a former dear friend of Fannie Willis's 109 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 7: about when the nature of this relationship began, she said 110 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 7: twenty nineteen. Fannie Willis dismissed that said it was a lie. 111 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 7: Don't we have other evidence as well, text messages, emails, 112 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 7: phone records, etc. That corroborate that this relationship started earlier 113 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 7: and the fact that this guy had no experience at 114 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 7: all in criminal law, was paid an astronomical amount of 115 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 7: money six hundred and fifty four thousand dollars, of some 116 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 7: of which was spent on elaborate vacations and gives for 117 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 7: Fannie Willis herself. 118 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, the testimony to Fannie Willis and especially Nathan Wade 119 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 4: and of course whose former law partner, Terrence Bradley. I 120 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 4: don't think anybody in the courtroom, including the judge, was 121 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 4: buying what they were saying. Is they tried to minimize 122 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 4: it and deny it. I think it was an obvious deception. 123 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 4: I don't think the judge fell for it. But as 124 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 4: I say, I don't think it matters when the affair began. 125 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 4: It happened during the pendency of the cases. They were 126 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 4: creating these very thin charges against Donald Trump and others, 127 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 4: and I just think if you read the canons of ethics, 128 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 4: you can't do it. It taints the prosecution, automatic disqualification 129 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 4: in my judgment. 130 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 7: Let's get your take if we can. Bill Jacobson, I 131 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 7: think Greg makes a pretty compelling case, and from everything 132 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 7: I've seen here seems to be the only option. But 133 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 7: you know, you never know what a judge is going 134 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 7: to do, do you. 135 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 9: No, you don't know. I mean, certainly, it's it's unseemly, 136 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 9: this whole prosecution. It's based, as Greg indicated, on a 137 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 9: really incorrect understanding of the conspiracy laws. It's not illegal 138 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 9: to conspire to overturn an election. People do it all 139 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 9: the time, and that's the fundamental law. It might be 140 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 9: done in illegal ways, but that end result is not 141 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 9: in and of itself illegal, and that has tainted the 142 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 9: entire case. And then you have this romantic relationship, which 143 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 9: I think gives rise to a tainted prosecution or reason 144 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 9: to believe that the defendant is not being entitled to 145 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 9: the fair treatment of the law because the prosecutors have 146 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 9: a conflict of interest. So the whole thing is unseemly, 147 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 9: but it's started from, you know, an improper consideration of 148 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 9: what an unlawful conspiracy is people conspire to do lawful 149 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 9: things all the time. It's not illegal. It's really the 150 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 9: underlying problem with this whole prosecution. 151 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 7: Did you have a problem with the whole nature of 152 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 7: the relationship and is your interpretation of Georgia law in 153 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 7: terms of disqualification that they had a sexual relationship. Do 154 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 7: you believe that that is valid in your view as 155 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 7: a means to disqualify her, And if she's disqualified, does 156 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 7: that eliminate the charges? 157 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 9: Well, I think it can be, depending what facts the 158 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 9: judge finds, particularly if he finds that they were not 159 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 9: fully honest in their presentation to the court, that would 160 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 9: be another ground to remove. But yes, if there is 161 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 9: a conflict of interest in the prosecutors, and essentially Donald 162 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 9: Trump was prosecuted so that Fanny Willis could feed six 163 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 9: hundred thousand dollars to her lover, If that's the reason 164 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 9: for this prosecution, I think that tanks the whole prosecution 165 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 9: certainly thinks her being on the case, what happens is 166 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 9: they're going to have to essentially start this process over 167 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 9: again in a different location. There's no way this is 168 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 9: going to get to trial before the election. And even 169 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 9: the fact that we're talking about whether it gets to 170 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 9: trial before the election shows how improper this prosecution is 171 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 9: because this is done for political purposes. They could have 172 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 9: done this two years ago and we would know the result. 173 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 9: In all of these cases, with the exception of mar 174 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 9: A Lago, could have been brought two years ago and 175 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 9: we'd be done with this process. So I think she 176 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 9: should be removed. I think the case should be dropped 177 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 9: in Georgia. I think it's based on an incorrect theory 178 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 9: that trying to over and turn an election is illegal. 179 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 9: If there were particular people who did things. If somebody 180 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 9: broke into a computer system, prosecute that person. But that's 181 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 9: not Donald Trump's responsibility unless they can prove that he 182 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 9: was aware of it, which they haven't even alleged so far. 183 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 7: Do you see Greg Jared, any possible perjury charges, any 184 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 7: charges against Bonnie Willis herself as a result of all this, 185 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 7: based on what we have heard, the testimony we've heard, 186 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 7: and the evidence presented. 187 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 4: Well, I think Nathan Wade is in serious jeopardy because 188 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 4: he quite obviously lied in his divorce case when he 189 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 4: answered under oath interrogatories denying any affair, and then of 190 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 4: course admitted on a stand that he was having an 191 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 4: affair during the course of his marriage, but his attitude was, well, 192 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 4: I'm in tie the lie because my marriage didn't really 193 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 4: count since it was a broken marriage. That that is 194 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 4: not going to fly in any court of law based 195 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 4: on perjury charges. As for you know, Fannie Willis, I 196 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 4: mean she's in serious jeopardy with two other investigations looking 197 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:44,479 Speaker 4: into not just this, but other improprieties in her own office, 198 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 4: some of which she was directly involved. And if the 199 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 4: reporting is accurate, there are employees in her office who 200 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 4: hate her so much they're lining up to testify against 201 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 4: her with some fairly compelling evidence, and so you know, 202 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 4: in the end she could lose her job. 203 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 7: Quick break more with our legal panel, Greg Jarrett and 204 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 7: Bill Jacobson. Then we'll get to your calls coming up 205 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 7: eight hundred and nine to four one shaw on our number. 206 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 7: As we continue, Hi, we continue now examining the new 207 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 7: developments in the Fannie Willis case as we expect the 208 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 7: judge to rule any second, any day now. But anyway, 209 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 7: we continue with Greg Jarrett and Bill Jacobson. Are with us, 210 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 7: Let me ask this, there are a number of people 211 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 7: in this case surrounding this case that were charged in 212 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 7: this case that ended up making plea deals. 213 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: Now many people may not know this. 214 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 7: Why do people make plea deals Because if the plea 215 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 7: deal results in, for example, no jail time, well, then 216 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 7: a defendant has an option even if they believe in 217 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 7: their innocence, and they now have to determine whether or 218 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 7: not they want a risk being exonerated at the cost 219 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 7: of possibly ending up in jail at the end of 220 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 7: the process, and they're offered a deal that's okay, you're 221 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 7: agreed to testify, you're greed to apologize to the people 222 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 7: of Georgia, but you won't experience any jail time. That 223 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 7: will not be part of the punishment. Now, even if 224 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 7: they believe they're innocent, they might take that deal to 225 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 7: avoid any risk of maybe going to jail, because it's 226 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 7: a crapshoot before any jury. What about all those people, 227 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 7: Greg Jarrett. 228 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 4: Well, those people could ask, based on the findings of 229 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 4: the judge, that their plea deals be vacated and their 230 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 4: sentences vacated. And you're absolutely right, Sean. I mean, look, 231 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 4: some of these people didn't have the money to spend 232 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 4: half a million dollars in defense fees, and if they're 233 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 4: offered a sweetheart deal of you copped to a lesser 234 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 4: offense with probation and you avoid the jeopardy of prison. 235 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 4: I mean, that's a pretty good deal. And I think that's. 236 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 7: Why even if you didn't, even if you believe and 237 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 7: know in your heart did nothing wrong, you might take 238 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 7: that option. 239 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: Correct. 240 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 4: Innocent people do that all the time. 241 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's your take, Bill? 242 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 9: I agree, I mean it's I think they might have 243 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 9: a tough time withdrawing their pleas. I'd have to double 244 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 9: check what the Georgia standard is, because somebody else is 245 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 9: not being prosecuted may not be a ground to withdraw 246 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 9: your own please, So they may have problems there. But 247 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 9: let's face it, the process is the punishment in these cases. 248 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 9: It's going to ruin people financially, and even if they're 249 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 9: found out guilty, they're done. They're done financially. So they 250 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 9: every day in this country, prosecutors coerce guilty please from 251 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 9: people who are not guilty, because the alternative is either 252 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 9: ruining your life financially or potentially getting a bad jury 253 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 9: verdict and spending time in prison. So that happens all 254 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 9: the time. It's really one of the great travesties of 255 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 9: our system. But it is the reality, and we should 256 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 9: acknowledge the reality. 257 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think so. 258 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 7: Now, let's say that the judge removes Fannie Willis from 259 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 7: the case. Mister Jacobsen, do you believe that this case 260 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 7: then would have to go, you know, back to Srijuana 261 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 7: and start at the beginning, and perhaps even in a 262 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 7: new venue. 263 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 9: My understanding, in Georgia, it could not be done in 264 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 9: that same office, and I think the I forget what 265 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 9: his formal title is, but the person who has control 266 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 9: over prosecutors in Georgia has said that he will appoint somebody, 267 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 9: but he would wait until the appeals process on you know, 268 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 9: works itself out if she's removed from the case. So 269 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 9: it's not going to happen anytime soon. They're going to 270 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 9: have to redo this in another jurisdiction in. 271 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 7: Georgia, and then if it's another jurisdiction, in that jurisdiction, 272 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 7: they could determine they have no desire to pursue this. 273 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 9: I think they could. I don't think they can take 274 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 9: away that prosecutorial discretion in another jurisdiction. So it is 275 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 9: possible this case will go away. But let's face it, 276 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 9: this case is motivated from the prosecution side by the 277 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 9: November twenty twenty four election. Once we're beyond that, that 278 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 9: motivation goes away, and so who knows whether it prosecutor 279 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 9: down there, even somebody who's politically motivated would want to 280 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 9: pursue it, you know, in January of next year, or 281 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 9: would even attempt to pursue it if they could against 282 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 9: a sitting president. 283 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, after this cluster, I'm not sure anybody would anyway. 284 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 7: Bill Jacobson, thank you, Greg Jarrett. Always appreciate you being 285 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 7: with us, sir. 286 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: The radio show, the mainstream media Love State. 287 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 6: This is the Sean Hannity Show. 288 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 7: All right, twenty five to the top of the hour, 289 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 7: eight hundred and nine point one. Sean, if you want 290 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 7: to be a part of the program, we got a 291 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 7: lot of breaking news. John Solomon joins us in a minute. Look, 292 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 7: if you're a homeowner, you need to know this. Your 293 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 7: title is online. 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Our friend John Solomon just thenews dot 317 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 7: com founder editor and chief investigative reporter is back with us. 318 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 2: You've got a lot of breaking news. 319 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 7: I see Hunter Biden's partners aiding Chinese bid to corner 320 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 7: the nuclear energy market with US tech. Okay, that sounds 321 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 7: like a national security threat to me. 322 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 2: Explain. 323 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 3: In fact, today I've been talking a lot of national 324 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: security extras who've raised enormous alarm Fred Flights. They just 325 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 3: got off the phone with a few minutes ago, former 326 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 3: Chief of Staff to the National Security Council. So in 327 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 3: twenty fourteen, China was caught its military was caught trying 328 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 3: to hack into Westinghouse, the premier maker of nuclear reactors 329 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 3: in the world. And at that time, westingouseid developed a 330 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 3: brand new reactor that was the envy of the world. 331 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 3: It's called the AP one thousand small print, huge energy output, 332 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 3: was revolutionizing the nuclear industry inity, and here is China 333 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 3: wanted to get their hands on it. They're caught hacking. 334 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 3: They're caught trying to go into Westinghouse and steal the plans. 335 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 3: They're indicted by the Obama Justice Department. Eric Holder crowed 336 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 3: at the time as Attorney General. This is a major indictment. 337 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 3: Not eighteen months later, not even Eighteen months later, Hunter 338 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 3: Biden and his business partners are talking with the company 339 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 3: that most would like to acquire this technology, CEFC China. 340 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 2: We've talked about that. 341 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 7: That's a big Chinese oil conglomerate. Energy conglomerate they. 342 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 3: Are, and as we know, that was the one that 343 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 3: maybe the big guy was going to get ten percent of. 344 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 3: It's the one that Joe Biden meets with the Chinese 345 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 3: executives at the Four Seasons Hotel. We've known a lot 346 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 3: about their gas interest. They were trying to buy natural 347 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 3: gas interests in the United States and helped trying to 348 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 3: get our natural gas from out from under our feet. 349 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 3: But here they were trying to help them secretly buy Westinghouse. 350 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 3: All right, China got caught trying to hack their way 351 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 3: into him. Now they're going to try a more legitimate means. 352 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 3: They're going to do a lead capture. I'm going to 353 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 3: see if Hunter Biden with his family and they can 354 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 3: help secretly acquire Westinghouse. In fact, the plan is very detailed. 355 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 3: We have a copy of the plan. It was recently 356 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 3: turned over to Congress and the impeachment and curtain, and 357 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 3: it says, hey, we're going to try to hide. This 358 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 3: is going to be cutouts and people won't be able 359 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 3: to tell it's China. But we'll get it done. And 360 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 3: when it's done, China will have a monopoly, They will 361 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 3: have a China will be able to quote unquote control. 362 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 3: That's the word Hunter Biden has business partners. Used the 363 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 3: nuclear energy market for years to come, our single largest 364 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 3: political geopolitical adversary in the world, and there's Hunter Biden 365 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 3: trying to get them the crown jewel of our nuclear 366 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 3: energy technology, something that was built with American innovation, and 367 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 3: there they are trying to facilitate that. That's what these 368 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 3: new documents show. It is alarming. Almost every person I've 369 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: talked to you today said they are even more disgusted 370 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 3: than ever before. But Biden family drifting that was going on. 371 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 7: You talk about in your investigative piece that some of 372 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 7: the evidence about cefcs pursuit of Westinghouse was secured from 373 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 7: the laptop from hell of Hunter Biden abandoned as we 374 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 7: all know, and then you talk about the relationship that 375 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 7: Hunter had been developing with this Chinese conglomerate. Now remember 376 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 7: it was CEFC that goes to the What's App message. 377 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 7: I'm sitting here with my father. You didn't produce what 378 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 7: you promised. Between everybody, he knows my ability to hold 379 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 7: the grudge. You're going to regret it. How many days 380 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 7: later did they get a wire transfer to one of 381 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 7: their accounts, John Blood And how much was it? 382 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, three million dollars just a few days later, when 383 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 3: there is actually it's five million after the threat, three 384 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,239 Speaker 3: million right after Joe Biden met with him. They get 385 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 3: a total of eight million in a very short period 386 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 3: of time in twenty seventeen. But what's most important about 387 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 3: that is at that moment, Joe Biden is no longer 388 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 3: the vice president. What's important to know is that those 389 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 3: payments in Hunter Biden's mind, in the partner's mind, because, 390 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 3: as had come out in the testimony, was at for 391 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 3: the work that Hunter Biden and his family was doing 392 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 3: while Joe was still in office. They couldn't take the 393 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 3: money from China then it would be too obvious, so 394 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 3: they deferred the payments. But they got the work done. 395 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 3: We've been always asking, well, what work was going on 396 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 3: in fifteen and sixteen. Now we know a big part 397 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 3: of this work was they were trying to help China. 398 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 3: The sitting Vice President's son was trying to help China 399 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 3: buy away secret away the most important nuclear energy technology 400 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 3: an American company had developed, an over generation. That is 401 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 3: what they were getting paid for. So in twenty seventeen, 402 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 3: the pay outcomes, the dirty work was being done in 403 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: twenty fifteen and sixteen. That's what these documents shows. 404 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 7: Do we know if they were successful? For example, they 405 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,959 Speaker 7: were okay? They were not? Why not? 406 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 3: Because it was just too obvious of too many flaws, Right, 407 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 3: this was going to have to go through a Scifius review, 408 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 3: which is the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States. 409 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 3: They was going to certainly raise red flags there, and 410 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 3: so it just doesn't get as well. 411 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it could happen. 412 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 7: I mean if you go back to Hillary Clinton, maybe, 413 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 7: and if you talk about the materials to build nuclear weapons, 414 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 7: of which we only have a very limited amount of. 415 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 7: Correctly if I'm wrong, But wasn't the Clinton warrant the 416 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 7: Clintons involved in that big deal dealing with Canadian businessmen 417 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 7: that were really funneling a lot of this information uranium to. 418 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 2: Buten and Russia. 419 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 3: You capture this so perfectly because it's a ten year 420 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,479 Speaker 3: This is what I wrote my book fallout. For ten years, 421 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 3: Democrats were trying to help our two largest geopolitical adversaries 422 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 3: in the world, the two people that most wanted to 423 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 3: throw in the United States as a superpower of the world, 424 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 3: Russia and China, both trying to help them get a 425 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 3: leg up in the nuclear markets. Why would patriotic Americans 426 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 3: want to help our enemies get a geopolitical advantage in 427 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 3: the area one of the most important parts of geopolitical 428 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 3: strategy energy. They were trying to put us at a 429 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 3: disadvantage and energy to our two biggest enemies. Hllary Clinton 430 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 3: does it with Bill Clinton and the Foundation and uranium one. 431 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 3: And then Hatter Biden comes along, and here he is 432 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 3: trying to help Westinghouse. And also if they can't get 433 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 3: Westinghouse old, they're trying to help them buy a whole 434 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 3: bunch of natural gas assets so that it can be 435 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 3: sucked out from under our feet, take our energy and 436 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 3: throw it over to China so they can burn it. 437 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 3: That is what under Biden was doing. And of course 438 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 3: it follows the grift that the Clinton family and many 439 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: others in the Democratic Party did with Russia a few 440 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 3: years earlier. 441 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 7: Well, and this goes to the heart. Why are they 442 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 7: looking for criminal referrals? I mean, now with ken Buck 443 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 7: just saying bye bye and abandoning Republicans, he was useless anyway. 444 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 7: But you know, their margin is so slim in the 445 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 7: House that the likelihood of getting the impeachment of Biden 446 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 7: has been reduced. But James Comer is kind of pivoted 447 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 7: to the idea, well, criminal chargers are going to be 448 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 7: brought up against them. You've also been breaking a lot 449 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 7: of stories as it relates to the January sixth Committee. 450 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 7: Isn't it amazing that apparently files what just happened to disappear? 451 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 7: Isn't it amazing that certain testimony was not brought to 452 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 7: the attention to the American people. For example, such a 453 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 7: big deal was made over the testimony of a young 454 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 7: woman that worked with Meadows about how oh she knew 455 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 7: that Donald Trump tried to commandeer the steering wheel on 456 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 7: January sixth from the Secret Service. And yet the January 457 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 7: sixth Committee correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't they interview 458 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 7: this guy, mister Ornado, and didn't he say that never happened. 459 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 3: More importantly, Ornado was the Deputy chief of Staff for Operations, 460 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 3: so he knew what went on that day. But they 461 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 3: actually interviewed the Secret Service driver, the man that was 462 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 3: in the vehicle, and he said President Trump never launched 463 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 3: across the seat, he never got a hold of my 464 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 3: steering wheel. He never choked the guy next to me. Oh, 465 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 3: by the way, he wouldn't have been able to because 466 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 3: there was a glass and steal plate that kept the 467 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 3: Vice of the President protected. He couldn't get through that. 468 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 3: They had first hand witness accounts saying it didn't happen, 469 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: and they gave credit instead. They hit that and they 470 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 3: gave credit instead to a third hand Here's the account 471 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 3: of Cassidy Hutchinson. Just think how decept that is to 472 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 3: the American people. It feels like Russia collusion. All well, but. 473 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 7: Hired a Hollywood producer. They put this in prime time 474 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 7: and there's certain exculpatory evidence they purposely kept away from 475 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 7: the American people. 476 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 2: Do we know? 477 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 7: Have we gotten all of the files that they tried 478 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 7: to hide, eliminate the leite whatever they tried. 479 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: To do with them. 480 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 3: Oh you asked a great question, because I just Congressan 481 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,719 Speaker 3: Barry Loudimolk. He's the man that's been digging up all 482 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 3: this evidence. He says, they still are missing significant pieces 483 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 3: of evidence. They still don't have things that were shipped 484 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 3: off to the Biden administration to hide. They still don't 485 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 3: have the passwords for a lot of the accounts that 486 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 3: locked documents that the January sixth Committee has, and no 487 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 3: one seems to be willing to give him that. He 488 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,239 Speaker 3: said last night, this is a big moment. Keep an 489 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 3: eye on this development. He is preparing possible criminal referrals 490 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 3: of members of the January sixth staff in their staff 491 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 3: in January sixth lawmakers and staff possible? 492 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 7: Would would that include people like Liz Cheney, who chaired 493 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 7: the committee co hared it. 494 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 3: He said he's gonna name names later, but he did 495 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 3: say something very important. He said, I do not believe, 496 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 3: based on what we've now learned from the documents, that 497 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 3: Benny Thompson, the Democratic chairman, ran this committee. He said, 498 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 3: I believe Liz Cheney was calling the shots and Bennie 499 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 3: Thompson was going along for the ride. And he pointed 500 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 3: out something very important. Liz Cheney was the lawmaker in 501 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 3: the interview with the Secret Service driver. So when the 502 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 3: Secret Service driver said Donald Trump never crashed through her, he 503 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 3: didn't take my steing. Well, he didn't do anything like that. 504 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 3: Liz Cheney was the one lawmaker in that interview. She 505 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 3: knew what the committee was about to say, put on 506 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 3: the stand, put into their final report. It wasn't true. 507 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 3: And I think Liz Cheney's going to have a big 508 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 3: bulls eye around her as very Loudimo goes around getting 509 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 3: the rest of this evidence. He says, there are two 510 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 3: possibilities criminal referrals or ethics and censure emotions in Congress 511 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 3: to punish these people who misled the American people we 512 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 3: were taking for a ride. 513 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: Click break, will come back. 514 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 7: More with Investigative Reporter, editor in chief justinnews dot com. 515 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: More with John Solomon. 516 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 7: All right, we continue now with Investigative Porter, founder editor 517 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 7: in chief justinews dot com. 518 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 2: John Solomon is with us. 519 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 7: I mean the whole narrative that Donald Trump somehow was 520 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 7: involved in an insurrection that that has contradicted. I have 521 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 7: the tape of my interview with President Trump, Chris Miller, 522 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,719 Speaker 7: the acting Secretary of Defense, Cash Bettella's chief of staff, 523 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 7: Mark Meadows, who was Trump's chief of staff, and you 524 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 7: have confirmed the issue. The other person in the room 525 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 7: was General Milly, I have four of the five saying that, 526 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 7: in fact, in the days leading up to January sixth, 527 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 7: that they were concerned about the potential of some people 528 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 7: maybe having ulterior motives and could be possibly involved in violence, 529 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 7: and Donald Trump was willing to approve ten thousand Guard troops. 530 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 7: Lester Holt talked about even reported on NBC that they 531 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 7: had actionable intelligence. And you have the Capitol Police chief 532 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 7: Son who wrote a book. You interviewed him, I've interviewed him, 533 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 7: I've read the book. You've read the book, and he 534 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 7: originally didn't want troops, but then in the final days 535 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 7: leading up to January sixth, he saw the actionable intelligence 536 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 7: and was begging everybody for Guard troops. But in writing, 537 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 7: Muriel Bowser, who would have needed to approve it, said no, 538 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 7: never mind. We don't know what Nancy Pelosi did or 539 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 7: didn't do. So did they not withhold that information from 540 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 7: the American people and lie about it. Liz Cheney was 541 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 7: in a Twitter fight with an X fight with Mark 542 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 7: Levin and she actually said, well, Chris Miller testified to this, Well, 543 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 7: that's not what Chris Miller told me. 544 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 2: I've got it on tape. 545 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 3: That's not what he actually testified to. They used a 546 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 3: very narrow question to kind of lock him into something 547 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 3: that was misleading the listen, there's no doubt the offer 548 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 3: was made. How do we know. Very early on in 549 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 3: the Entry six investigation that I began in twenty twenty one, 550 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 3: we got a hold of a document. It's the Capitol 551 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 3: Police document. It's the timeline of what happened for the 552 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 3: five days leading up the Capitol Police recorded in writing 553 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 3: the pen the Trump Pentagon called us in the morning 554 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 3: of January third and offered US troops and said, if 555 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 3: you want them, just send the request. We'll get it 556 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 3: going now. And we turned it down. The Capitol Police 557 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 3: turned it down. That verifies not only Chief's son, who 558 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 3: you interviewed and did a great job getting out. It 559 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 3: verifies the timeline that Chris Miller and General Millie said. 560 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 3: And then we now know Tony or not. Onlam Man 561 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 3: you mentioned a couple of minutes ago, he actually not 562 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 3: only was in the meeting with Miller, Millie and Trump 563 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 3: when Trump said do whatever takes. I'm authorizing troops go 564 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 3: up to ten thousand whatever you need. The next day 565 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 3: he sat in the meeting with the mayor of DC 566 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 3: mayor browser and said you can have up to ten thousand. 567 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 3: They discussed the ten thousand number directly with the mayor 568 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 3: of the District of Columbia. All of that was sitting 569 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 3: in the purview of the committee, and they kept it 570 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 3: from the American public. Why because if Donald Trump bordered 571 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 3: ten thousand troops to the January sixth, he would have 572 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 3: been silly trying to carry out an insurrection that day. 573 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 3: He would have armed the ability to put it down. 574 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 3: They couldn't let that sack get out there because it 575 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 3: undercut the narrative that they wanted to have. 576 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 7: Well, may also explain deep down inside why Trump has 577 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 7: never been charged with insurrection because they know all of 578 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 7: this will come out. Maybe that explains it all. And then, 579 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 7: of course you have the people that are screaming the 580 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 7: loudest that this election about is about democracy. In parallel, 581 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 7: the very people that support the idea that one single 582 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 7: elected official can determine Trump tried guilty and punished by 583 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 7: taking him off the ballot for something he was never 584 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 7: charged with, let alone convicted of insurrection. 585 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, you said it right. They hired a Hollywood 586 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 3: producer and they can try the evidence to create fiction 587 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 3: and then sell it as a nonfiction story to the 588 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 3: American people. The one problem is American people are too 589 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,719 Speaker 3: smart to Falford. They've been through Russia collusions, They've been 590 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 3: through hunder byden laptop, and through Ukraine impeachment. One. I 591 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 3: think now people are tired of being lied to, and 592 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 3: this election, well a lot will be which party has 593 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 3: been telling us the truth the most. I think that's 594 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 3: going to be a big thing the ballot come November. 595 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 7: All right, John Solomon, just thenews dot com. Great work 596 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 7: on all of these stories as per usual. Uh, thank 597 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 7: you sir for sharing your hard work with us, and 598 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 7: we're going to stay on the issue and report that 599 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 7: which the mob the media will always ignore. The sad 600 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 7: thing is is they're never going to get the story out. Unfortunately, 601 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 7: many people will never hear that they're the Secret Service 602 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 7: driver said no, it never happened. Donald Trump never tried 603 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 7: to commandeer the vehicle, because that was the common belief, 604 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 7: and they peddled a lie that they know was false 605 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 7: and they need to be held accountable for it. Anyway, 606 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 7: Thank you, John Solomon, eight hundred and ninety four to one, 607 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 7: sean our number. If you want to be a part 608 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 7: of the program,