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Speaker 1: build their offensive line. They're gonna get James Robinson back

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Speaker 1: Brandon Graham, Chris Long, those guys were amazing this AFC South.

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Speaker 1: If it wasn't already, it's bullyball, and if you don't

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Speaker 1: I think Kyle Hamilton a punch of bunch of bullies

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Speaker 1: Hamilton looks at He's gonna look at who's coming after

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Speaker 1: that where you start by the game plan? How to

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Speaker 1: deal with these guys, right, who can just joy the game?

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Speaker 1: That's what Zach Taylor had to do with the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: So you want other offensive coordinators to deal with your

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Speaker 1: guys up front. Absolutely, And that is what Aidan Hutchinson does. Mark,

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Speaker 1: Doesn't matter, I really do much. I just lobbed the

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you, what would you do? Would you

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Speaker 1: you do something different because there is one quarterback still

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Speaker 1: taking one at three. I'll hitch my wagon to Mills.

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Speaker 1: But on the wagon, I need another option, all right,

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Speaker 1: I need a backup that's a viable option. Should Mills

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Speaker 1: either get hurt or what if he doesn't play well?

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Speaker 1: What if he comes back and you know how, Davis

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Speaker 1: Mills comes back dressed like Joe Burrow go into the

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Speaker 1: haven't done anything yet. You know he won't. He won't.

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Speaker 1: I think he'll be fine. But the saying is, you

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Speaker 1: still want options. I don't care who the quarterback is.

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Speaker 1: I need a backup who can play, So get me that.

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Speaker 1: I you know, I don't know what I'm gonna do

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Speaker 1: with three yet, Johnny, we'll say that for a future show.

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Speaker 1: All right, but I think you're kind of talking me

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Speaker 1: And I mentioned Ain Hutchinson. Let's learn a little bit

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Speaker 1: said loud reporter, and it's time to learn a little

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Speaker 1: bit more about Aiden Hutchinson and Nico Collins with Isaiah Hole,

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Speaker 1: Michigan beat writer cover the Wolverines and knows them inside

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Speaker 1: it away. We're profiling some of the top NFL prospects

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Speaker 1: in this year's draft and joining me today Isaiah Hole.

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Speaker 1: He covers the University of Michigan for USA Today's Sports.

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Speaker 1: He hosts the on Wolverines podcast. He's at Michigan alum,

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Speaker 1: and of course we had to get Isaiah's thoughts on

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Speaker 1: one of the top prospects in this year's draft, Aiden

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Speaker 1: Hutchinson Edge Rusher. First of all, welcome in, isaiahs. It

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Speaker 1: seems like every year there's a couple of teams that

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Speaker 1: I end up doing, whether it's it's from an official

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Speaker 1: capacity or someone just that covers the team that always

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Speaker 1: wants to know about the Michigan prospects. So I'm excited

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Speaker 1: for a sak as the second straight year I've talked

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Speaker 1: to someone from the Texans or covering the Texans about

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Speaker 1: Michigan prospects. Yeah, we've got a direct pipeline because we've

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Speaker 1: got some former coaches from Michigan here with the Texans

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Speaker 1: at all. I'm definitely gonna get to them a little

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Speaker 1: bit later. But first of all, Aidan Hutchinson, he's projected

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Speaker 1: to be the number one overall pick in a lot

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Speaker 1: of drafts right now here in the twenty twenty two

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft class. How can a guy like him step

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Speaker 1: in and instantly make an impact on an NFL defense,

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Speaker 1: like say a Lovey Smith for three. Well, I think

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Speaker 1: the big thing for him is that he obviously he's

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Speaker 1: got the talent, he's got all of that, but he

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Speaker 1: brings a culture perspective. That's what really Michigan wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: been Big ten champions, Michigan wouldn't have gone to the

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Speaker 1: College Football Playoffs semifinals it wasn't for Raiden Hutchinson. He's

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Speaker 1: the glue guy. He's the guy that gets everyone hyped,

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Speaker 1: everyone fed off of him, so that I think that's

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Speaker 1: the first and most important thing, because you can't really

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Speaker 1: put a price on that, you know. But he also

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Speaker 1: had the production to go along with it. He's certainly

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Speaker 1: adept in a four to three. He played more in

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Speaker 1: a three four this year because Mike McDonald came in

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Speaker 1: from the Ravens before going back to the Ravens, but

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Speaker 1: he brought in a three four style defense and Aiden

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Speaker 1: really thrived in that. But Aiden thrived even when Don

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Speaker 1: Brown was the defensive coordinator and he was playing in

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Speaker 1: a four to three. It just became even more glaring

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Speaker 1: this particular year, I think, mostly because he had had

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Speaker 1: an injury that precluded him from the field for most

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty, and I think that he was just

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Speaker 1: that hungry to go out and get it, because we

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Speaker 1: saw him in some four three looks this year as well.

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Speaker 1: He technically was an outside linebacker this year, but I was,

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously considered a defensive end for his entire career,

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Speaker 1: and I've just watched him get better and better. I've

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Speaker 1: covered him going back to high school and yeah, I've

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Speaker 1: known him since he was a junior or sophomore in

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Speaker 1: high school and just watching him develop, and it's it's

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Speaker 1: he's got the motor, he's got the physical tools. A

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Speaker 1: lot of times people would would look at someone like

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Speaker 1: him and say, well, he's just gritty. No, he's he's

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Speaker 1: just as talented. It's not he's not just out working everybody.

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Speaker 1: He is out everybody. But he is just as physically

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Speaker 1: talented as anybody out there who plays the edge rusher

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Speaker 1: defensive end position. So whoever gets him is going to

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Speaker 1: really get a complete package because he's got the personal aspect,

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Speaker 1: he's got the physical tools, everything you really kind of want.

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Speaker 1: He's got speed. He's absolutely like he does not look

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Speaker 1: like what college defensive ends look like. He is super

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Speaker 1: cut super lean, looks more kind of like a wide

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Speaker 1: receiver in a lot of ways. Well, the Texans had

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Speaker 1: a great defensive lineman for about a decade in Jj Watt,

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Speaker 1: and he's drawn. Hutchinson's drawn a lot of comparisons to

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Speaker 1: the Watt brothers. In fact, I was asking about him

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Speaker 1: last year to our sideline reporter John Harrison. That was

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Speaker 1: one of the first things he said to me. He said,

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Speaker 1: if the brothers had a fourth brother, it could be

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Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson. So I'm sort of hearing this throughout draft

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Speaker 1: circles now that he's drawing a lot of comparisons to

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Speaker 1: those guys. Is that setting the bar too high for

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Speaker 1: a guy that hasn't even played it down in the

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Speaker 1: NFL yet, that he's getting compared to guys that are

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Speaker 1: former defensive and current defensive players of the year, I mean,

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Speaker 1: and at any time obviously, that's kind of always setting

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Speaker 1: the bar too high. As someone who watched the Detroit

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Speaker 1: Lions for many years before learning to eventually abstain from

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Speaker 1: said practice, you know, it was always you know that

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Speaker 1: these number two, number three overall picks that were always well,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be the next, this, next, this, it's

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Speaker 1: always a little hard to project, but I do think

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Speaker 1: that that that is kind of his game. He is.

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Speaker 1: He does have a very you know, comparable game to

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Speaker 1: that TJ. Watt, I think is the one that he's

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Speaker 1: most comparable too. I think he's kind of like a

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Speaker 1: higher end version of him, at least coming out of college.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think there's anything wrong with looking at how,

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Speaker 1: you know, how a player does in college and thinking, okay,

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Speaker 1: they they certainly if they actually are able to build

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Speaker 1: upon that, then they'll be able to look a lot

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Speaker 1: like this player. And I don't imagine that Aiden's going

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Speaker 1: to have a disappointing NFL career. That would honestly shock

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Speaker 1: me more than kind of anybody, because he's got just

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Speaker 1: so much drive, like he won't let himself be anything

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Speaker 1: but great. That's just who he is. So I think

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Speaker 1: that it's it's a fair comparison a lot of players.

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Speaker 1: The big question entering the draft is how they're going

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Speaker 1: to make that transition from college into the NFL, how

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Speaker 1: that skillset's going to translate. And you mentioned Mike McDonald's,

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Speaker 1: he's obviously had a lot of experiences in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: He's back with the Ravens as served as Michigan's defensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator last year. How much does that play a role

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Speaker 1: in Hutchinson's ability to play in the NFL, Getting to

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Speaker 1: play for a guy that actually coached the NFL. How

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Speaker 1: much do you think that's going to really help him

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Speaker 1: here as a rookie. Oh, I absolutely think it'll help,

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Speaker 1: just for the sake of he's gotten used to just being,

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Speaker 1: you know, being under a guy who's been there, done that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna you know, I'm sure he McDonald

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Speaker 1: brought a lot of similar things in terms of terminology

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Speaker 1: and just the way that they practiced and got ready.

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Speaker 1: I think more so, though, the thing that's going to

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Speaker 1: help aiden more than the Mike McDonald aspect is probably

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Speaker 1: just some of the competition he went up against. No,

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Speaker 1: he didn't have like the most flashy game against Georgia,

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Speaker 1: but he was still going up against you know, some

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Speaker 1: probably first round draft pick tackles across the board. Though,

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Speaker 1: Like I remember, I talked to Pro Football Focus every

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Speaker 1: week on the podcast, and they had said that he

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Speaker 1: had single handedly tainked Jackson Kirkland's draft stock from Washington.

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Speaker 1: He was widely considered to be kind of at worst

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Speaker 1: the third tackle to be off the board, and he

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Speaker 1: put him on skates all game. And then you look

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Speaker 1: at Ohio State, they have two first round looking picks

635
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Speaker 1: and in Dwan Jones and Nicholas petit Frere, and the

636
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen the highlights they were out there

637
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: for months of just him just bull rushing Nicholas petite

638
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: Frere and just knocking him over like he was nothing.

639
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: I think going up against some of these for you know,

640
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: these guys that are going to be first, second, maybe

641
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: third round NFL draft picks, I think that that probably

642
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: helps because he's already playing up against the best of

643
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: the best, and obviously every team is gonna you know, Wisconsin,

644
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 1: who's known for their offensive line. They're they're throwing everything

645
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: they can aidate and not just the their tackles, but

646
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: they're tight ends, and he's used to being chipped and

647
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,439
Speaker 1: having all the attention thrown at him. I think that's

648
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: going to help, probably more than the NFL connection with

649
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald. But when you also have to keep in

650
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: mind that Jim Harbaugh has run essentially an NFL team

651
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: in college since he's arrived, So we've often heard when

652
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: players do move on that they the terminology wise, and

653
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: a lot of things are relatively similar, especially the workouts

654
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: is the way that everything is kind of scheduled. So

655
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: I think that when Aiden finally does get to the NFL,

656
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna be relatively similar. All right. He suffered a

657
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: season ending injury back in twenty twenty, and then he

658
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: really bound back and had a great twenty twenty one campaign.

659
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: How did he overcome that adversity to sort of have

660
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: the performance that he did on the field last year

661
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 1: and really elevate his draft stock? Really, it's just it's

662
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: it's it's a personal want to, you know. It amazes

663
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: me that he, you know, he broke his ankle. It

664
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: was a really gruesome injury. And the fact that, you know,

665
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: not even a year later, he's out there setting the

666
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: Michigan single season sack record and doing things of that nature.

667
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: Considering I mean, I'm I'm not quite the same athlete.

668
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: But I broke my foot once when I was about

669
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Speaker 1: thirty years old, and it took me about three years

670
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: before I can run on it again and had it

671
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: feel normal. He's out there doing crazy things out there.

672
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: But the story that Jim Harba often talked about when

673
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: it came to Aiden was that he when he got

674
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: into winter conditioning last year, he went up to the

675
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: strength sapp and said, I want you to ring me out.

676
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: I want you to to every single day that I

677
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: come in here, whether I feel like it or not,

678
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: I want you to completely wear me out. I want

679
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: you to completely wear me down. I want you to

680
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: make me better. That's the type of guy he is.

681
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: You know, He's always been like that. He was like

682
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: that in high school as well, so, but I think

683
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: the resolve got even more strength than after missing an

684
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: entire year, a year in which Michigan kind of felt

685
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: like it had it was going to have something going.

686
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: I granted in the game that he went down it

687
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: was after a loss, but mixed with the fact that

688
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 1: the season didn't go well in twenty twenty, he knew

689
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 1: he was an unquestioned leader, it was a team captain.

690
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: And I think that a mixture of not getting to

691
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: play through much of twenty twenty, knowing that he needed

692
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: to put the team on his back and wanting to

693
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: kind of reverse what Michigan started to become known for,

694
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 1: which was losses to Ohio State. I think that all

695
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 1: of that kind of played a factor into his drive.

696
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: But I think that even if it wasn't, I mean,

697
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: that's he's just a driven guy. You've covered him for

698
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: four years at Michigan. Is there a particular lay or

699
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: a most memorable moment that really stands out to you

700
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: after watching him for all these years? Oh put him

701
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: on the spot there. I mean, honestly, it's just the

702
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: Ohio State game in general, because as someone in the media,

703
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 1: it seems like we almost have a rivalry media versus

704
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: media from ann Arbor to Columbus. But I just remember

705
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: reading a lot of the stuff that my colleagues down

706
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: there were saying, and they thought that Aiden was going

707
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: to be rendered essentially moot by what they thought was

708
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: an incredible offensive line. They were saying, this is like

709
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: the best offensive line Ohio States had since they're twenty

710
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: fourteen National Championship game. And he goes out there and

711
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: has three sacks and all very crucial moments. I mean, this,

712
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: you know, and that's the big rival I mean, he

713
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: didn't shy away from, you know, talking about it being

714
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: the big rivalry, and he went into that week saying

715
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: we're not scared of them. You know, we're not going

716
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: to bow down to them, none of that. And then

717
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: he went out there and did exactly kind of what

718
00:37:55,600 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: he said, and ultimately they Ohio State's offensive line coach

719
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: got fired. I mean they were talking a couple of weeks,

720
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: you know, not even a couple weeks, a week before

721
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: the game, the whole week of the game. Wow, that

722
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: was a strength that that was not going to be

723
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: an issue, that they were going to neutralize Aidan Hutchinson.

724
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: Three sacks later, their offensive line coach is looking for

725
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: a new job. I mean that tells you a lot

726
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: about his ability, his production. All Right, what about his personality?

727
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: What's he like off the field. I'm going to get

728
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: to see him at the Combine in person, but what

729
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: can you tell us about what he's like off the field? Oh,

730
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: he's fun. He's definitely fun to cover. Doesn't shy away

731
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: from saying something like he's the he's the one. Like

732
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 1: Michigan right now doesn't have a lot of big, bold

733
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 1: personalities like it did early in the Jim Harbaugh era,

734
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: except for Aiden. I feel like Aiden's the guy that

735
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: if we were getting him for a press conference of

736
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: media availability, you knew it was going to be a

737
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: good one. You knew he was gonna sail. You know,

738
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: he was going to speak his mind. He wasn't going

739
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: to shy away from from saying the sound bite. You know,

740
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: as much as maybe sometimes Chigan would want him to,

741
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: he still would say kind of what was on his mind.

742
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: And uh, but he's humble too. I think that's the thing.

743
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: He's confident and humble. He's not necessarily being he's not

744
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: being braggart or anything like that. He's not show bodie.

745
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: But but he's also going to let you know exactly

746
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: what he thinks. So I mean, he he you know,

747
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: he and his entire family have just been an absolute

748
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: pleasure for the last the last six some years there,

749
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: seven years, or however long it's been that since I've

750
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: gotten to know them back when he was a high

751
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: school recruit, and he's he's just gotten kind of more

752
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: outspoken over the course of time. And I remember his

753
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: first press conference he was a little bit more more shy,

754
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: and now certainly you know he's camera ready. Now, all right,

755
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: let me ask you about the Texans, because you've got

756
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: some familiarity with some of our current players and staff.

757
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: Nico Collins He's going to enter year two and he

758
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: spent three three games on IR but came back average

759
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: thirteen and a half yards per catch, had a pretty

760
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: good rookie campaign. He's going to have Pe Hamilton as

761
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: a ZOC, who you're also familiar with, was served on

762
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: that Michigan staff. What can you tell us on and

763
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: maybe your thoughts on what we might expect from year

764
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: two from from Nico and working with Pet Hamilton. I'll

765
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: tell you that Nico's a worker number one. After he

766
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: was drafted, I saw him running around my neighborhood here

767
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: in ann Arbor. Uh So, like you know, you think

768
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: that that's one of those things that you know that

769
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: you get drafted, you're gonna go somewhere, and nope, he

770
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: was still here in ann Arbor working doing his thing.

771
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: So I stopped him and he was super excited to

772
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 1: get out there to Houston. But I think the great

773
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: thing for Nico is just the familiarity. I mean, he

774
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 1: spent he spent most of his college career with Pet Hamilton.

775
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: Pet Hamilton started at Michigan in twenty seventeen. That was

776
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: Nico's freshman year, and he was there seventeen eighteen and uh,

777
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: Nico was gone after nineteen when he had Josh Gaddis

778
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: for one year. But he's got that familiarity and certainly

779
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: with the way Pep runs a traditional a little bit

780
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: more of a traditional pro styllie, that's what he did

781
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: here in ann Arbor. Certainly he could have changed some

782
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: philosophies after being at the DC Defenders and other stops

783
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: and everything, but he'll treat him like, you know, the

784
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: big play threat that he is and try to get

785
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands. Because the great thing about

786
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: Nico and I watched it, I think the immediately comes

787
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: to mind is it was a loss for Michigan in

788
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: twenty eight, twenty nineteen against Wisconsin at Wisconsin And I

789
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: do sideline photography for the games, and there were there

790
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: was two times in which I was standing right in

791
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: line with the ball thrown to Nico. Pass interference happening,

792
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: guy completely draped on him, somehow still comes down with

793
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 1: the ball, and I mean Nico's what six feet away

794
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: from me, and I still don't understand how he came

795
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: down with the ball. He's that type of guy, He's

796
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: that type of possession receiver and but then he's got

797
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: the speed as well. So I think it's just you know,

798
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: getting healthy, getting acclimated, and uh. And I think that

799
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: he'll be honestly just an absolute stud in the NFL,

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00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: and especially with Pep, because you know, Pep's been through it.

801
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 1: You know, he's he's been all over the place, whether

802
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: it was Stanford or Michigan or even when he was

803
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: with the Cleveland Browns. I talked to former Ohio State

804
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: quarterback Terrelle Pryor, remember he had that one year in

805
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: which he was a really good receiver. Uh and Uh,

806
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: I wanted to get the especially considering it was from

807
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: a rival, you know, I wanted to get the perspective

808
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: of like, what's what's Michigan getting and Pep Hamilton and

809
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: Terrelle Pryor had nothing but amazing things to say about

810
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: him and said he saved my career. So I'm excited

811
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: to see Pep get that next step. And I'm sure

812
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: that he feels a little bit more well rounded having

813
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: you know, having been uh, you know, gone through the

814
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: paces from quarterbacks coach to offensive coordinator in college, offensive

815
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: coordinator or wide receivers coach in the NFL, and uh,

816
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 1: you know, analyst positions and you know and also XFL

817
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: head coach, so all of that perspective is really going

818
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: to help him out here this next year. Great stuff

819
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,479
Speaker 1: there from Isaia and of course from our good friend

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Speaker 1: Dpsit we get back, we'll go round the league with

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Speaker 1: one final segment of this Wednesday edition of Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: I am your host, John Harris, football analist sideline reporter,

834
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Speaker 1: so glad to be with you in A big thanks

835
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 1: to DP for stopping buy and getting some of the

836
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: skinny if you will. On Aidan Hutchinson, whose dad Chris

837
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: played at side Fair than the University of Michigan and

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00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: then stayed at the University of Michigan. I believe he

839
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: got his medical degree there. Either way, they stayed up

840
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 1: at ann Arbor, and so Aidan Hutchinson's only old Michigan.

841
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: But you know what, grandparents here, families here in Houston

842
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: would mind seeing him at number three. But we'll continue

843
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: to discuss that as we go along. All Right, I

844
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Speaker 1: say we're gonna go down the NFL, but I saved

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Speaker 1: well one thing that does definitely have to do with

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Speaker 1: the NFL and has to do with your Houston Texans,

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Speaker 1: and that is my good friend and one of the

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Speaker 1: named the winner of that award. And as President of Texas,

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Speaker 1: Greg Grissom read why it was just yep, yep, absolutely yep,

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Speaker 1: that's Omar. The absolute best. I love him the death.

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Speaker 1: He is of Houston. He is Houston. He just loves

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Speaker 1: he loves us, I mean, which is fantastic. Congratulations Omar,

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Speaker 1: with the Texans organization. And so that's my round the

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Speaker 1: NFL nugget right there. Congratulations to my man Omar and

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Speaker 1: his entire PR department, who I just absolutely adore. A

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Speaker 1: big thanks to Dpe, to Mark, to all of you,

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Speaker 1: to Chris Santiago on the board, Yarre the best. We'll

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Speaker 1: What plenty to talk about. What John will do that

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Speaker 1: tomorrow we'll see that everybody has always go Texans. This

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