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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. This is the best of with

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 2: of you hanging out with us. Join now by Tucker Carlson,

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Speaker 2: who has got a brand new business that he is launching.

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Speaker 2: I believe it launched yesterday. I'm sure that many of

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Speaker 2: you have already checked it out. Tucker, thanks for coming

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Speaker 2: on the show. Let us know what you got cooking.

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Speaker 2: What's what's the new business and how's it going to

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Speaker 2: be set up?

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Speaker 3: Gentlemen, thank you for having me. Well, it's his streaming service.

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Speaker 3: And the point I'm not a business person, but I

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Speaker 3: am a free speech person, and the point is to

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Speaker 3: protect speech from advertising boycotts and pressure from corporations. And

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Speaker 3: really the only way to do that is to build

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Speaker 3: a subscription service where people, you know, pay for some

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Speaker 3: percentage of the content that they watch. And then you're

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Speaker 3: you're a fortress. There's no one can shut you up

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Speaker 3: at that point. And that's a conclusion that I've come

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Speaker 3: to after you know, a lot of years of doing

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Speaker 3: this and having been shut up a few times through

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Speaker 3: advertiser boycott's or corporate pressure. Or whatever it happens. But

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Speaker 3: I think, going particularly into this next twelve months, you know,

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Speaker 3: you're going to need outlets that can't be shut up.

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Speaker 3: You literally can't make them be quiet and not. You know,

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Speaker 3: you don't have to watch if you don't want. You

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Speaker 3: you do want information that's honest and that's not being

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Speaker 3: controlled or edited by people with interests, they're not disclosing,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's really important to have that, especially in

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Speaker 3: an electioneer. So that's what we're building.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Tucker's buck, you know, I see that Elon. Of course,

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Speaker 4: now that he is for free speech, the left has

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Speaker 4: decided that he's like public Enemy number one, even though

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Speaker 4: he's arguably doing more for you know, the issue of

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Speaker 4: climate change and clean energy and all this than any

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Speaker 4: other human being in history. They don't care. They hate

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Speaker 4: him because he's for free speech. Is what you're doing

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Speaker 4: really enabled or even just made possible because X exists

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Speaker 4: at this point as a place, because I mean, I

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Speaker 4: don't even people ask me. I don't even bother posting

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Speaker 4: really on Facebook or these things anymore. You know, people

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Speaker 4: can post for me sometimes, but they're not free speech

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Speaker 4: places at all. So is X kind of a critical

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Speaker 4: ingredient in the plan? And how does Elon's vision and

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Speaker 5: Are you kidding?

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Speaker 3: And by the way, I mean Facebook, Instagram, TikTok. I

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Speaker 3: No one could exist on any of those platforms telling

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Speaker 1: The world that has free speech.

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Speaker 3: There's only one left, and that's because of Elon, you know,

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Speaker 3: whatever you think of him. And he was, you know,

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Speaker 3: after our show got canceled. And you know, he didn't

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Tucker Carlson. I know you have already

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Speaker 2: been asked about this, but let me just make my

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Speaker 2: as vice president, my answer is you. And my answer

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Speaker 2: And that's not a shot at Trump, it's just more

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Speaker 2: And I told him this, you heard it. I said

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Speaker 2: Are you really telling me you would say, can't do

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Speaker 3: All the same three things. One. The only reason I'm

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Speaker 5: You brought it up.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome. You're welcome.

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Speaker 5: I love putting that out to people. By the way,

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Speaker 5: I'm like, uh, well, we kind of started that whole thig,

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Speaker 1: But by the way, before you finish your answer, you

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Speaker 1: can come back to your three parter here. Milaangna.

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Speaker 2: To be fair, Axios had a which I'm sure you

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Speaker 2: saw where Milania Trump said it should be Tucker. Now,

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Speaker 2: whether that's true or not, but Trump does listen to

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Speaker 3: I would just say first that that only proves that

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Speaker 3: think so. Second, I would say I am in sync

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Speaker 3: that's not a goal. And politics draws a lot of

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Speaker 5: Sorry, Frankly, Clay.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people are talking, probably about Tucker as VP,

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Speaker 4: the best, great VP, really wonderful.

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Speaker 5: We'll talk about it. We can get into some other

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Speaker 2: By the way, that whole answer Tucker just solidified for

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Speaker 1: You just you just you just come on.

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Speaker 5: Clay is a dog with a bone, Tucker. You got

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Speaker 5: to know something would have me.

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Speaker 4: You should have heard them on the Mike Pens interview.

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Speaker 4: If you don't answer a question for Clay, he never

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Speaker 4: lets it go.

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Speaker 2: So that was the perfect answer. That's the answer I

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Speaker 2: would want Trump's VP to give. When we come back,

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Speaker 2: Tucker's going to stick with us. We'll close out the show.

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Speaker 2: We'll get in with some more questions, probably mit Harvard

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Speaker 2: Penn what happened there and where does he see things

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Clay en Buck final segment of the day,

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Speaker 4: and it's a doozy. We've got our friend Tucker Carlson here.

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Speaker 4: He just launched the Tucker Carlson Network.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back everybody to Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 4: Phone lines are open eight hundred two A two to

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Speaker 6: Hey guys, thanks for having me. You know, I live

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Speaker 1: It is an awful year for New York football fans. No,

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Speaker 5: Should I be a Dolphins fan then Dolphins are?

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Speaker 5: is the movie from our youth? Now?

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Speaker 4: I'm giving up the joke here because Clay and I

437
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,919
Speaker 4: are basically the same age. Don't tell anyone what is

438
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Speaker 4: the movie from our youth that your kids love the most?

439
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Speaker 1: Well, it changes based on how they age, because but.

440
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Speaker 4: Like right now, like like right now, like in the

441
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Speaker 4: last year or two, what's the one that they have

442
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:48,720
Speaker 4: liked them?

443
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Speaker 5: Is there one that really sticks out?

444
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Speaker 7: Well?

445
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Speaker 1: The last the most two most recent we watched.

446
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Speaker 2: They loved both of them, The Lost Boys and Scream,

447
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,959
Speaker 2: and they really want to watch the entire Scream.

448
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Speaker 1: That was around Halloween.

449
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 2: We were watching all those movies and before that is

450
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Speaker 2: I would probably say Indiana Jones. But they also love

451
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,680
Speaker 2: Star Wars, like the original Star Wars, but the Indiana

452
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Speaker 2: Jones movies they thought were.

453
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Speaker 1: Pretty phenomenal.

454
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Speaker 5: Dan in Minnesota, what's going on? Dan?

455
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Speaker 7: Hello? With the votes coming in as early as they

456
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 7: do now, no matter how energized the Republican base or

457
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 7: the how good the polls look, I'm ready to be

458
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Speaker 7: disappointed because as the election nears, the Democrats ground game

459
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Speaker 7: will will disappoint us election after election. And I think

460
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Speaker 7: we have every right to know as long as we're

461
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Speaker 7: going to be voting this early what the score is

462
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Speaker 7: as the votes come in. That way, we won't be

463
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Speaker 7: surprised and we won't have such a traffic jam.

464
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Speaker 1: Thank you for the call.

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Speaker 2: The amount of thank you, the amount of defeatism is

466
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm trying to think of the fan base

467
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Speaker 2: that the Republican Party would represent.

468
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 1: Right now, the Republican Party is like the New York Jets.

469
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Speaker 2: There is almost no faith that anything could ever go

470
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Speaker 2: possibly right. I would have said historically buck the Detroit Lions,

471
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 2: although here's a good sports analogy for you to drop

472
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Speaker 2: out at Thanksgiving, because the Lions will be playing on Thanksgiving,

473
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Speaker 2: and everybody out there who's listening right now, if you

474
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 2: are not a sports fan at all, but you want

475
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Speaker 2: to blow your family away on Thanksgiving by just dropping

476
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Speaker 2: an incredible sports stat. Here's one for you, Buck. The

477
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Speaker 2: Detroit Lions are eight and two. Detroit Lions play every

478
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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving they are eight and two. They usually play the

479
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Speaker 2: early game. So you got all your family and friends around,

480
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Speaker 2: you can say Detroit Lions are eight and two. They

481
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Speaker 2: haven't been eight and two, Buck since nineteen sixty two.

482
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Speaker 2: JFK was alive the last time the Detroit Lions started

483
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Speaker 2: off a season eight and two.

484
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Speaker 1: There you go, you save that one. Your your family's

485
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Speaker 1: not listening, your brothers are are football fans. You're going

486
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Speaker 1: to drop it. They're going to be blown away.

487
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Speaker 3: Now.

488
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Speaker 2: I don't think you can release all the numbers while

489
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 2: the voting is still going on, but I do think

490
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 2: this Every single state should one hundred percent copy everything

491
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Speaker 2: that Florida does from a voting perspective, because Florida was

492
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 2: the laughing stock of America in two thousand. It took forever,

493
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 2: the hanging chad, the vote and everything else. They fixed it.

494
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 2: No big state, Buck does voting better than Florida. Now,

495
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 2: by ten thirty or eleven o'clock, you know exactly what

496
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 2: the tallies are going to be, you know, who won

497
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Speaker 2: every race.

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Speaker 1: Every state should be exactly the same as Florida.

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Speaker 4: I think some states that are run by Democrats at

500
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Speaker 4: the legislative level and have a Democrat governor, they want

501
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Speaker 4: to keep it exactly how it is. They want to

502
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Speaker 4: keep it a little opaque, a little murky, little you know,

503
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Speaker 4: who knows what's really going on.

504
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Speaker 2: Did it take like a month for all those oats

505
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Speaker 2: to come in in California? Remember how long it took

506
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 2: to figure out who actually won the house?

507
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Speaker 5: Yet New York.

508
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 4: Had along a long lag as well.

509
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Speaker 2: The you know, going out and making a plate of charcuterie,

510
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 2: which I'm gonna be honest with you, like, I don't

511
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Speaker 2: even know what that is, and I regularly will go out,

512
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 2: but you know, I'm not very astute when it comes

513
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Speaker 2: to food. So when I heard I'm making a plate

514
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Speaker 2: of charcuterie, that's not what I would buy at a tailgate, right,

515
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 2: Chips and salsa is about as far as I go.

516
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Speaker 5: I mean, I might.

517
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Speaker 4: Try to set up charcuterie at a tailgate, but yes,

518
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Speaker 4: generally speaking, that's not what you would necessarily.

519
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have beer and probably chips and salsas at

520
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Speaker 2: like ninety percent of the tailgates I've ever gone to.

521
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Speaker 2: Maybe gonna get really fancy and have a Chick fil

522
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Speaker 2: a sandwich.

523
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Speaker 4: Can I make my pitch to you about about salsa

524
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Speaker 4: versus keso? Obviously keso is superior, but keso is dangerous.

525
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 4: You can polish off a whole thing of kso, and

526
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 4: then if you're me, you feel bad about yourself for

527
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Speaker 4: the next few hours because you're, like I just ingested

528
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 4: like eighty or one hundred grams of saturated fat polishing

529
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Speaker 4: off all that caso. You can drink a bucket of

530
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 4: salsa and it's basically like Veggie's.

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Speaker 5: You're good to go.

532
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 2: I am one billion percent in disagreement with you that

533
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 2: that that cheese dip is better than salsa.

534
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Speaker 4: Wait, you don't agree that it's better tasting. I'm saying

535
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 4: it's the better option because of the price you pay. Nutritionally, Oh,

536
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 4: I'm not even thinking about the nutrient. I would rather

537
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 4: eat salsa than cheese dip. Oh oh, I would much think.

538
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 2: I think you're infinitely better, infinitely better as a choice

539
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 2: between the audience contra I don't want big cheese after

540
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Speaker 2: me out there, right so I'm not trying to throw

541
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 2: the cheese dip people.

542
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Speaker 1: I don't want to.

543
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Speaker 2: I want us to still be popular in Wisconsin. I

544
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 2: don't want the cheeseheads coming after me all around packer Nation.

545
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: I'm not anti caeso or cheese dip or whatever you

546
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: want to call it. Salsa, however, is better as an

547
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 2: option to dip a chip into.

548
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Speaker 4: I don't even have to make this. This is like

549
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 4: shrugged her shoulders and was like, I have no response

550
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 4: to this. That's just that's just outrageous.

551
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 2: I may even go some of you out there not

552
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: in the long you agree with me, now I'm gonna

553
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 2: now I'm gonna throw you for an uproar.

554
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: I actually think.

555
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: The uh, the standard French onion dip is the best

556
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 2: of the chip dips, given an option that you can

557
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,959
Speaker 2: buy easily in a store. Some of you are out

558
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: there were like, I like, uh, you know Buffalo chicken

559
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 2: dip or you know where you mix all this stuff together.

560
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 2: Three primary dipping options. I go French onion one, salsa two,

561
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Speaker 2: your caso dip.

562
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Speaker 1: I ree.

563
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Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, now he's just being inflammatory, everybody. I

564
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 4: just want you to understand. He's just he's he's trolling

565
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 4: you for for emails right now and clicks.

566
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,959
Speaker 2: This is nonsense. He does not believe what he's said. Well,

567
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 2: also add another caveat. I think it can depend on

568
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 2: the chip. If you have the Tostito chip, clearly salsa

569
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: is the top choice. But if you have like a

570
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 2: standard like Ruffles chip, I think the French onion dip

571
00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: is the better choice.

572
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'll throw this in the mix.

573
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 4: To me, any dip that has crab in and disaperior

574
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 4: to any dip that doesn't.

575
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: That's just that's just a personal preference. Yeah, greatpawn over here.

576
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:13,479
Speaker 1: I mean, I like any dip that has caviare is

577
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: far better than any other dip crab. Yeah, you lobsterman.

578
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 5: I just outed myself there.

579
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 4: I got to put the top hat in the monocle

580
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 4: aside here for a second.

581
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 5: So anyway, what do you think.

582
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 4: About Okay, we will return to the border here in

583
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 4: a second, because it's really important.

584
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 5: We'll get to it.

585
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 4: But obviously we're gonna have some hot takes on the

586
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 4: superior dip I think, and you can all let Clay

587
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 4: know that he is he is wrong.

588
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 2: Anita in San Diego wants to weigh in on the

589
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: dip debate. Anita, what's going on?

590
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 5: How are you?

591
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 7: I love listening to you too, and I'm just I'm

592
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 7: trying to get some work that around the house and

593
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 7: listen to you.

594
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 3: But it's not.

595
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 7: Caso, it's GUESSO, please guess so.

596
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: Oh, there's no.

597
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: Way I'm ever getting Anita's gonna be honest with you.

598
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: Hold on, I have no ability to do acts sense.

599
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 5: Like that.

600
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Speaker 4: Bas are ae O not a E I O U.

601
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 7: So it's scarce.

602
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 5: So please, But if I add crab to it, then

603
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 5: can I call it KESO?

604
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 7: You want to add the go.

605
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 5: Ahead and call it?

606
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, Anita.

607
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: I want to apologie you can I just get a

608
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 2: blanket immunity for all mispronunciations for the next several years

609
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 2: because I think I am. I don't do accents. You're

610
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 2: good at these, buck, I don't do pronunciation. I also

611
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 2: can't whisper like my I Like, I was at dinner

612
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 2: the other day and somebody was like, you're really loud.

613
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 5: Just what would it take for Clay. I want to know,

614
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 5: for you to pull out a full.

615
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 4: Country Tennessee accent, like to give me the full on Tennessee,

616
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 4: you know, the most regional.

617
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 5: I mean, we have to get you, like a few

618
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 5: shots in the hole here.

619
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Speaker 2: I don't think I really have it. You know, you

620
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 2: can get my mom. I think my mom's been on

621
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: the show. I mean she has a deep Southern accent.

622
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 4: Her accent is amazing, Like I want her to narrate

623
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 4: books about the South.

624
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: She does have a good accent.

625
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's true, whoa lines are lit, email boxes filling up.

626
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 4: People are fired up here, hopefully all writing in with

627
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 4: the same take on things. When it comes to caseo

628
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 4: versus salsa, kesso, kesso, we have been told by a native.

629
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Speaker 2: I respect the fact that Anita is right there. Here

630
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: is what I would ask about pronunciations in general, Like

631
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: sometimes people mispronounce things, and it is so well established

632
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: that the mispronunciation is the way that you talk, that

633
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: you seem like a show off if you try and

634
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: pronounce it as can.

635
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 4: I tell you one of one of the great one

636
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 4: of the great problems, problems probably like frankly the biggest

637
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 4: problem when you go into any kind of a bakery

638
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 4: and you want to order that crescent shaped, very buttery

639
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:12,479
Speaker 4: pastry that the French call a croissant. Americans say croissant, yes,

640
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 4: But are we really supposed to walk into the bakery

641
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 4: and say, hey, man, I want a croissant. Yeah, But

642
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 4: the only other option is to say I want the quissant.

643
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: I'm not French. There's people listening to us right now, Buck,

644
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: who live in Kentucky in a town called Versailles. It

645
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,959
Speaker 2: is actually named after Versailles. But if you were driving

646
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 2: around in Kentucky, the famous French palace. If you were

647
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 2: driving around in Kentucky and you ask the average person, hey,

648
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get directions to Versailles, they would look

649
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 2: at you and have no idea what you were talking about.

650
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: You and to really Versailles, to really confuse things. In Miami,

651
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 2: the most famous, probably human restaurant in Miami is Versailles.

652
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: But if you just show up here, would you know

653
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: it's versa or would you think it's the americanized vers Sales. Also,

654
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: the school is clearly Notre Dame, not yet to them,

655
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Speaker 2: even though it is the French Notre Dame like the cathedral,

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Speaker 2: but we americanize it so it gets confusing.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, crossan or quassant.

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Speaker 4: That's always a tough one for me, because you either,

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Speaker 4: you know, you either lean in on the French thing or.

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Speaker 5: You're very American with it. So I go, I go,

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Speaker 5: I go with America. We get all right.

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Speaker 4: I gotta get to some of these here because everyone's

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Speaker 4: calling in too to yell at us.

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Speaker 5: Thomas.

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Speaker 4: Thomas is a brilliant man, Clay, do you know this.

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Speaker 4: Thomas is a brilliant fellow. Kesso is much superior to

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Speaker 4: salsa as it is, but if you get loaded kesso

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Speaker 4: with chunks of tomato and some ground beef in it,

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Speaker 4: that is untouchable in the dip world. I'm actually, I'm

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Speaker 4: actually not going to disagree with them that I do

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Speaker 4: not like chunks of tomato and my kesso