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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up everybody, Welcome back, Move the Sticks, DJ, Rhett

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Speaker 1: with you. Bucky has got some he's got some Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl programming duties, so he'll be back later in the week. Rhett,

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Speaker 1: travel safe. Nice to be home, Yeah it was.

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Speaker 2: It was good to be home.

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Speaker 3: Felt like it was a long week on the road iMobile,

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Speaker 3: but a productive week, one in which I know we're

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Speaker 3: going to dig into here after one of the craziest

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Speaker 3: All Star games I think I've ever been a part of.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that registers for you as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a fantastic finish to the recent Senior Bowl,

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Speaker 1: the twenty five editions. So we'll break down some of

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Speaker 1: the top guys we saw, not only in the game,

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Speaker 1: but during the week. We had a couple podcasts during

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Speaker 1: We'll also give you some some Super Bowl thoughts as well.

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Speaker 1: Early in the week. We got plenty of time to

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Speaker 1: build that one up, but we'll give you some early

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Speaker 1: thoughts there. But right now it's time for the lead block,

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Speaker 1: on the pod, But here we go. Miles Garrett wants

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, I mean he's been there and one

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Speaker 3: hundred and two career sacks in the Cleveland Brown's uniform,

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Speaker 3: And so you're sitting here three what three years into

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting here and I'm like, I got a finite

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Speaker 2: But I want to make them count.

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Speaker 3: And I can't understand this because team's picking second in

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Speaker 3: like Miles feels like he's done enough to warrant an

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Speaker 1: So I don't think. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe there's some

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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett just gave you a huge gift. He just

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Speaker 1: We're not going to let him leave the organization. So

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Speaker 1: So now you've got cover. And to be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: Now, The owner of the Cleveland Browns, Jimmy Haslam is uh, Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: I know, people a lot of people didn't want this matchup.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of pumped for this fire. I'm looking forward

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Speaker 1: to it.

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Speaker 3: And it's it's really you know, it's it's blue chip

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Speaker 3: talent in the trenches. And I think that's that's something

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Speaker 3: that we you know, we talked about this being a

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Speaker 3: meeting and meeting potatoes draft, right, So you said at

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Speaker 3: the at the you know, during the Senior Bowl, and

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Speaker 3: I think you know, this is if you love that

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Speaker 3: this is going to be a game for you too,

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Speaker 3: because here we go, like, how do you know, what's

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Speaker 3: the health of the Eagles interior offensive line with Dickerson

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Speaker 3: and with with the beef JERGI and you know, can

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Speaker 3: they figure out a way to deal with Chris Jones

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Speaker 3: on a consistent basis enough to allow Saquon Barkley to

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Speaker 3: do what he's done all year long, and that is

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Speaker 3: you know, Rex shop and then you know, throw out

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Speaker 3: four or five six yard games and at some point

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Speaker 3: two of those are going to turn into sixty plus

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Speaker 3: yard runs. So like that, that to me right now,

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Speaker 3: on the surface is just the biggest piece of the

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Speaker 3: chess game for me is how they deal with Saquon upfront,

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Speaker 3: and then whether the Eagles offensive line is going to

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Speaker 3: be healthy enough, feeling, you know, good enough to kind

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Speaker 3: of continue to create that havoc up there for Saquon.

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Speaker 1: I think the entire game comes down to one thing,

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Speaker 1: and one thing only that the Kansasy Chiefs have lost

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Speaker 1: one Super Bowl with this group. What happened in that ballgame?

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Speaker 1: They got crushed on the edge should not protect and

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Speaker 1: got eviscerated by the defensive front of the Tampa Bay

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers and the Eagles have that type.

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Speaker 2: Of talent up front, So that's really coming on that

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Speaker 2: that is and.

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Speaker 1: They can get some and they can make some turnovers

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Speaker 1: off of that if they get that level of pressure.

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Speaker 1: So and I think, man, you got all these guys

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Speaker 1: are going to be fresh. So that's what you know.

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Speaker 1: We've got the injuries for the Eagles on the offensive line,

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Speaker 1: we'll keep an eye on that. But from the pass

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Speaker 1: rush standpoint, man, they're going to be fresh. I'm keeping

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Speaker 1: an eye. I'm just keeping an eye on the on

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Speaker 1: the footing. What is the footing look like, because that

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Speaker 1: was a big issue in the first time when they met.

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Speaker 1: Remember that nobody had their footing up front. The Eagles

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Speaker 1: had those two fastballs coming off the edge with Hassan Reddick,

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Speaker 1: I remember who was on the other side. Whe a

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Speaker 1: bit sweaty, but they were slipping and sliding all over

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Speaker 1: the place. In that game was in Arizona. I want

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Speaker 1: to say where that Super Bowl was two years ago? Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was not long, but they had made it. But

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Speaker 1: this is going to be, this is gonna be. I

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Speaker 1: would imagine very firm footing here on this track and

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Speaker 1: the yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's artificial, so like you're good to Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's going to be a fast track. And and so

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Speaker 3: you know, Joe Tooney sounds like still going to stay

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Speaker 3: on the outside at tackle. I don't know, I don't

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Speaker 3: know how you how you could find a better can't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not gonna move him.

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Speaker 3: They'll mess around with it, right, I mean, like that's

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Speaker 3: he's your best option at left tackle right now. Maybe

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Speaker 3: he is moving forward, he's like that's the other thing

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Speaker 3: that's kind of intriguing. Or or do you go back

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Speaker 3: to Sumatilla and hoping he can.

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Speaker 1: Figure it out based off what I saw this year?

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Speaker 1: I'm not Yeah, yeah, but so yeah, I think that's

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Speaker 1: that's the that's the big key there.

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Speaker 3: Can Tooney deal with the speed off the edge and

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Speaker 3: then on the right side, can you hold up long enough,

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Speaker 3: can you get beat slow enough to let Patrick you know,

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Speaker 3: do what he does.

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Speaker 1: Well, They're gonna have to take away do a better

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Speaker 1: job of taking away the tight end. Last week, Zach

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Speaker 1: Hertz went for bazillion catches against them, And if there

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Speaker 1: was a lot of them kind of uncontested working in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the field, if they can't play like

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Speaker 1: that against Kelsey, he'll have twenty catches. I mean, they've

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Speaker 1: got to find a way to slow that down a

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Speaker 1: little bit. But man, that's that's it's a true line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage game. And you mentioned it, you know, can

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Speaker 1: they block Chris Jones that's on one side of it.

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Speaker 1: On the other side of it, Jaylen Carter and all

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Speaker 1: those I do think I do think that while Kansas

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Speaker 1: City defense is outstanding, I still think if you add

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Speaker 1: up and and this is not going to mean anything

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Speaker 1: if you're Kansas City fan, don't take this the wrong way,

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Speaker 1: but this is a more talented team roster in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: But guess what. San Francisco was more talented than Kansas

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Speaker 1: City was too, Philadelphia in the previous meeting was more

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Speaker 1: talented than them, and then Kansasity still finds a way

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Speaker 1: to win it. So uh, you know, I just think

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Speaker 1: it's it's phenomenal what they've been able to do and

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Speaker 1: in some ways, like I'm looking forward to most on

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City side of things is I don't know

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Speaker 1: what you know, if Dan Casey, if they've gone back

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Speaker 1: through all Dan Casey's tweets over the last like five years,

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Speaker 1: what kind of weird plays. Andy Reid's gonna dust off

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Speaker 1: to uh to unleash here in the Super Bowl that

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Speaker 1: nobody's seen or haven't seen in maybe forty fifty years.

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Speaker 3: Can't wait, y oh guy, it's gonna be It's gonna

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Speaker 3: be fantastic because there's going to be something of course,

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Speaker 3: And then you know, I think how the Eagle or

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Speaker 3: how the Chiefs operate, like let's take the protection part

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Speaker 3: of it out of there. About how they operate down

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Speaker 3: the field I think will be really intriguing as well,

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Speaker 3: Like which which receiver is it going to be?

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Speaker 2: Is gonna is going to step up?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: Is it going to be uh DeAndre Hopkins?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 3: Is are we going to find Juju Smith Schuster at

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Speaker 3: the sticks a bunch of times? Or and how did

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Speaker 3: the Eagles deal with Kelsey? Is it you know Reid

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Speaker 3: blank and ship or you know, Orrin Burke stepping into

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Speaker 3: a big role without Nakcobe Dean, Like, there's there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of combinations back there that I think will be

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Speaker 3: kind of interesting to see how how the Eagles try

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Speaker 3: to play this thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's uh, you know, I also want to

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Speaker 1: from the personnel side of things, I mentioned the talent

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Speaker 1: that the Kansas City Chiefs have a top five roster

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Speaker 1: and they have obviously Hall of Fame quarterback, hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame coach. So it's not like there's a huge, huge gap.

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Speaker 1: I give a slight edge there to Philly, but Brett Veach,

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Speaker 1: Hy Roseman work with both of them, and uh, you're

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Speaker 1: not gonna find better with how they've constructed these teams.

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Speaker 1: These are excellent, excellent teams they've put together. So I'm

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Speaker 1: looking forward to game. We are doing the halftime thing together.

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Speaker 2: You better believe it.

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Speaker 1: I mean tradition, like unlike any other Yeah. For those

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Speaker 1: that don't know, hey watch Kendrick Lamar. No, why would

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Speaker 1: you want to do that?

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Speaker 2: Minutes?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of you and me, baby, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Just like this essentially, except we're in about twenty four

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Speaker 3: minutes right now.

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Speaker 2: We'll have about six more minutes to go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Once we get don't have expectations high, and by high,

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Speaker 1: I mean expecting to see video highlights, right, You're not

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Speaker 1: allowed to do that.

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Speaker 2: We might reenact them. We might actually we might actually

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Speaker 2: demo some of the some of the highlights for you guys,

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Speaker 2: So so it would be like.

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Speaker 1: It's I'm already thinking like it would be like, okay,

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Speaker 1: like the chapstick, this is Xavier Worthy, okay, and then

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Speaker 1: this case is is Cooper dejen So he got by him,

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Speaker 1: he stacked him right and then broke off on a

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Speaker 1: corner and then it was just a bucket throw. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's just dropped in the bucket beautifully. I mean maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe it's the golf tea that kind of like goes

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Speaker 1: as the ball and kind.

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Speaker 3: Of get one of those shaking football games, you know,

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Speaker 3: like what was the tape top things, you know, like

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Speaker 3: they like their way through.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one of those. We can do that. But anyways,

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Speaker 1: I hope you'll join us on that. We'll have we

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Speaker 1: have some more pods coming your way late this week.

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Speaker 1: I think we'll be able to wrestle a Bucky away

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Speaker 1: from some Super Bowl live coverage to join. Well, there

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Speaker 1: you have it. That was the winning combination, presented by

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Speaker 1: Reese's Chocolate Lava Big Cup found wherever candy is sold.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys hanging with us today. Uh, it's

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Speaker 1: going to be a fascinating week looking forward to a

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Speaker 1: great super Bowl as well as continuing on our draft discussion.

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Speaker 1: We will have all of it covered for you right

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Speaker 1: here on movie sticks,