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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. Hello,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my

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Speaker 1: name is no they call me Ben. We are joined

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Speaker 1: with our super producer Paul Deckett. Most importantly, you are you.

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Speaker 1: You are here, and that makes this stuff they don't

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Speaker 1: want you to know. A sequel episode uh to uh

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Speaker 1: to an episode that I think we all enjoyed uh

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Speaker 1: How long ago was that? I was going to ask

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Speaker 1: the same thing a couple of years as it seems

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Speaker 1: like it was a while back. Um, it wasn't. For Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was our episode on real life superpowers. Now, as

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Speaker 1: are a few that even if you hate Marvel at

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Speaker 1: like flying without the need of a plane, a helicopter, glider,

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Speaker 1: or so on. Right, that's that's one of the oldest ones, right,

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Speaker 1: even in ancient myths, gods can fly. You know, I've

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Speaker 1: And that's flying is one that people don't think through

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Speaker 1: It would have to be something that doesn't exert muscle energy.

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Speaker 1: the Matrix, and once you've got that down, you can

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Speaker 1: do anything. Well, that's just bending the code. Did you

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Speaker 1: trying to think of the word stronger than horrific. Like

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Speaker 1: one of the worst things that happened in history, the

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Speaker 1: plates but that's uh, that's that's a useful one. We're

427
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Speaker 1: trying to vary between the useful and unuseful. I I

428
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Speaker 1: found one that I thought, uh, I wanted to hear

429
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Speaker 1: you guys take on. You remember seven? Did you guys

430
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Speaker 1: like seven? The film? The film? No, just the number?

431
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Speaker 1: Do you remember that number? It's a great one about

432
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Speaker 1: Lucky Number sleeven. What's that? What's his name? Die Hard?

433
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Speaker 1: Bruce Willis is I haven't an assassin named Slevin? Oh,

434
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Speaker 1: boys called Lucky number sleeven? Oh jeez? And this one,

435
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Speaker 1: I think we're talking about a serial murderer, right, Well,

436
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: he's a torturist, maybe a torturer. He doesn't necessarily kill

437
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: all the time, but he has someone else do the killing.

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Speaker 1: Without spoiling too much of the movie seven or well,

439
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: it's past the statue of limitations, right, it's Kevin Spacey,

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00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: You guys who is not building the movie? Okay, let's

441
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: go ahead. You want to do a spoiler countdown for everybody? Three? Two,

442
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: it's Kevin Spacey. Yeah, it's Kevin Spacey. He appears in

443
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Speaker 1: the very last act of the film, uncredited because he

444
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: did not want to quote ruin the surprise. But one

445
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 1: of the ways in this story, one of the ways

446
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: that he gets away with all these horrific acts that

447
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: are meant to echo the Ten Commandments or the violation thereof,

448
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: is that the Seven Deadly Sins. Yes, thank you, that's

449
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: the name of the movie. Yes, good save uh he

450
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: gets away with or he's not apprehended for a while

451
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: because he has, through a very painful process, removed his

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Speaker 1: own fingerprints. It turns out some people just don't have

453
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Speaker 1: fingerprints genetically. And just for the record, you guys, I

454
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Speaker 1: wanted to throw that Kevin Spacey bit out there in

455
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Speaker 1: case you watched the movie for the first time not

456
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: knowing that he was in it, and then you would

457
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Speaker 1: have been super pissed by the end of it when

458
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: he came out and you're like, I didn't want to

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Speaker 1: watch a Kevin Spacey movie. That guy sucks. So I

460
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: saved you from that moment. So you're welcome. But in

461
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: this case, he plays the villain that you're rooting against.

462
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter. So in some way maybe it's I don't know,

463
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: and I don't think he's getting much money for that film.

464
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: I think that's mainly Brad Pitt and the other guy.

465
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Speaker 1: But yeah, uh, Morgan Freeman. Morgan Freeman, didn't he also

466
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: a bit of a me too guy? Didn't he do

467
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: some bad stuff too? Freeman? Yeah, there was heard that.

468
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Speaker 1: I'll look that up. As Michael Cha said at the

469
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Speaker 1: Emmy's just the other night, Hello to all of you famous,

470
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: rich people into Hollywood who haven't been caught yet. Yeah, true, too, true,

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Speaker 1: So lack of fingerprint. In two thousand and seven, there's

472
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Speaker 1: a Swiss woman in her late twenties who ran into

473
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Speaker 1: a really irritating Kafka esque problem. She could prove who

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Speaker 1: she was in every way, in every way that mattered,

475
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Speaker 1: except for one. Customs agents at the U S border

476
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Speaker 1: could not confirm her identity because despite the fact that

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Speaker 1: everything in her passport matched, including her photograph and all

478
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Speaker 1: that all that jazz, all that slow jazz, when the

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Speaker 1: agents scanned her hand, they found out she had no fingerprints.

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Speaker 1: And it turns out, instead of being some master criminal

481
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Speaker 1: or some insane sadist, she has an extremely rare genetic

482
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Speaker 1: condition known as a derma to life lack of fingerprints.

483
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Speaker 1: We're just we're throwing out the fancy words today. A

484
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Speaker 1: dermat cliffea a D E. R m A t O

485
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Speaker 1: g l y p h I A A dermato Cliffea. Yeah,

486
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: there you go. That's a nice voice for that man.

487
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: So this condition should mainly makes immigration and travel so

488
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: such a pain in the ass that one dermatologist research

489
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Speaker 1: and doctor named Peter Eiten called it the immigration delay disease.

490
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Speaker 1: Nice so usefulness. It could have been useful in the

491
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Speaker 1: days before GPS tracking and DNA testing, like you could

492
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Speaker 1: have been a master thief or of some sort maybe

493
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: in the forties through the fifties or sixties, definitely, so

494
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: that the heyday of that fingerprintless crime mob as coming gone.

495
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Speaker 1: If you had that coupled, Oh, it's it's a terrible

496
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: disease that a lot of people suffer with where you

497
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Speaker 1: lose all of your hair alopecia, alopecia and your entire body.

498
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: If you had alopecia, and oh, I've already lost it

499
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Speaker 1: in the outline, and I mean, there's no way I'm

500
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Speaker 1: gonna be able to say it again. A dermato glyfa.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. If you had both of those in the

502
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: nineteen thirties, forties, really anytime before of the nineteen sixties, Yeah,

503
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: you were you could have been a master thief. Dare

504
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: to dream. Dare to dream. So the next one is

505
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: really the next one is a weird one. It's super strange,

506
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: and I think it warrants its own episode. So well,

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00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: why don't we Why don't we hear a quick word

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Speaker 1: from our sponsor before we get into it? Okay, imagine

509
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: a world in which humans might be able to smell

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Speaker 1: with the sophistication of a dog, run with the burst

511
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Speaker 1: of a cheetah, stay under water as long as a

512
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Speaker 1: seal or a whale, or sleep with one half of

513
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,479
Speaker 1: each brain at a time. Or heck, how about just

514
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: growing a limb, or you know, growing an extra one

515
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: just for funzies. That would be That's the world comic

516
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Speaker 1: books present to us when we think of human animal hybrids.

517
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Speaker 1: And we're still pretty far off from that sort of stuff,

518
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: but we're closer than you might think about some island

519
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: of Dr Moreau type stuff. Ben more like some saber

520
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: Tooth stuff. You know what I'm saying. The ideally would

521
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: be saber tooth. But you gotta go through Moreau to

522
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,479
Speaker 1: get to saber Tooth. You gotta you gotta break a

523
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: few eggs to make a cheat up. Did you ever

524
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: read the actual book? No, but I saw the incredible

525
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: film and the documentary about the abotally insane. Well in

526
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: the oh Man, there's there's so many stories about Moyle

527
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: and Brando without getting too far into him. The thing

528
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: that's interesting about the book is that when the book

529
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Speaker 1: was written, the the doctor, the namesake of the film

530
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Speaker 1: and the namesake of the story. He is using purely

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Speaker 1: surgical methods, So he's not using any genetic methods to

532
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Speaker 1: um increase the cognitive abilities of these animals, these hybrids,

533
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Speaker 1: these chimeras. He's instead just cutting them up so they

534
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Speaker 1: walk like man. Yeah, sort of like the movie Tusk.

535
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Speaker 1: Did you see that horrible monstrosity Kevin Smith movie where

536
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Speaker 1: he turns a podcaster into a walrus. It's it's awful.

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00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: It just doesn't make any sense to me. Like the

538
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Speaker 1: motivation and the guy. The the fact that spoiler alert

539
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Speaker 1: three to one, the fact that the the protagonist and

540
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: Tusk Tusk or the main character also loses his mind,

541
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Speaker 1: but nothing's really done to his mind other than you know,

542
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: intense psychological torture, like he's a lot lobotomized or anything.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I'd lose my mind. If I

544
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Speaker 1: was turned into a walrus, I think I think I

545
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: would have the presence of mind to ask for some

546
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: people to help me with surgery to at least get

547
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: me closer back, closer to my original form in a

548
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: wildlife part fight. You know, sometimes I feel sometimes directors

549
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: or screenwriters get carried away with one image and it's

550
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Speaker 1: just the like, spend hours trying and rationalize that image.

551
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: That's that's for a different show. That's for a different show,

552
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure. But um yeah, like that, like uh like

553
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: Moreau on the way to Sabertooth. We're already this. This

554
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: is the biggest spoiler. We as a species are already

555
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: quite capable of making several types of human animal hybrids,

556
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: but in many cases it might be more accurate to

557
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 1: call it an animal human hybrid. In seen Just last year,

558
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: scientists announced that they created the first successful ones, and

559
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: they weren't entirely accurate in that claim. Their project proved

560
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Speaker 1: that human cells can be introduced to a non human

561
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: organism and they can grow within that organism. But what

562
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: they what they didn't say is they were doing legitimate

563
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Speaker 1: ethical science. In decades before this experiment, people have been

564
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 1: doing plenty of legitimate unethical science. There are all these

565
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: rumors we covered in earlier shows about a so called

566
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Speaker 1: human n Z, which is genetically speaking completely possible where

567
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: it's close enough, you know what I mean. It would

568
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 1: be probably very hard to bring it to term in um.

569
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Speaker 1: The creature would live a very cursed, unhappy life probably,

570
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: but it's technically possible, just not ethically advisable. And in

571
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 1: China there's this um. I guess you would call it

572
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: a story by two researchers because there's not a lot

573
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Speaker 1: of proof to back it up. That right before the

574
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Speaker 1: Cultural Revolution there was a successful experiment with a human

575
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Speaker 1: chimpanzee hybrid, and they had a female chimpanzee carrying essentially

576
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Speaker 1: a human fetus. It was about three months pregnant, but

577
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Speaker 1: then all the research was destroyed along with the individual.

578
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Speaker 1: So and then that's say of going into the Russian

579
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 1: experiments which were much have much better documentation. And then

580
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Speaker 1: in two thousand and three, the first successful human animal

581
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: hybrid was made in a lab in Shanghai, uh some

582
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Speaker 1: scientists fused human cells in rabbit eggs and they created

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Speaker 1: the embryos of new creature that would be half rabbit,

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Speaker 1: half human, never born again. These things officially you've never

585
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Speaker 1: been born. Even the whole point of that study, at

586
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: least back in the day, according to San Francisco Gate,

587
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: was to create a essentially a place where you could

588
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Speaker 1: grow human stem cells. Yes, within the rabbit creature that

589
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: they're creating half human, half rabbit thing. And that's why

590
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: when they destroyed the embryos, they harvested the stem cells. Right. Yeah.

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00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: So in the present day, we we started really really

592
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Speaker 1: going into this with pigs. We've made pigs that are

593
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Speaker 1: technically chimeras, organisms that are part human, part animals. The

594
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: scientists at the Sulk Institute found that they could inject

595
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Speaker 1: a certain type of human cell, things called plurip cells,

596
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: stem cells with unlimited changeable potential. They could implant these

597
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: cells and if they allowed the cells to develop to

598
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 1: a specific degree, these cells could survive in pig embryos.

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00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: They had to find sort of a Goldilocks zone to

600
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: put this alien um alien organic material in, and they

601
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: went on to create a hundred and eighties six embryos

602
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: cameric embryos that survived. Each only had about one and

603
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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand human cells. The ratio currently we're capable

604
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Speaker 1: of making sheep that are about point zero one human cells.

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Speaker 1: The ultimate goal here is not to make a race

606
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Speaker 1: of pig people or sheep folk. It's to use these

607
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Speaker 1: animals as a harvesting ground for organs, which means within

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Speaker 1: our lifetimes, if any of us needs to get a

609
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: heart transplant, we may well end up with the heart

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Speaker 1: of a pig, which is currently what happens now. If

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00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: you get a valve replacement, it can be bovine, it

612
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: can be poor signed, it can be from some other animal.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times it's a bovine valve. Yeah, I mean,

614
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Speaker 1: so we're already doing that, but it's not a human

615
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Speaker 1: hybrid version of it, or a full on human one

616
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Speaker 1: that was grown inside of a cow. It's really interesting stuff.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's it's interesting. Though ethically that would be

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Speaker 1: less egregious to a lot of people than using a

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Speaker 1: human heart, right sure, well, yeah, I guess it depends.

620
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Speaker 1: It depends. But then growing growing an animal and dedicating

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Speaker 1: its entire life to having its organ's harvest did a

622
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: lot of people to have problems with that. They would

623
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Speaker 1: also maybe talk about those problems while they were eating

624
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: a hamburger. Yeah, yeah, agreed, it Uh, it does. It

625
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: is an interesting thing. It feels like maybe they're going

626
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: about it the wrong way, but I see the leap here.

627
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Speaker 1: Who am I to say, by the way, old boy

628
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: matt over here trying to tell science what to do. Um,

629
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: But does feel like we're getting closer to a point

630
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Speaker 1: where we'll be able to grow an organ almost like

631
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Speaker 1: three D print and organ out of genetic material rather

632
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: than having to grow on physically in a creature. Yeah, yeah,

633
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: we are getting closer. The problem is making the moving parts. Yeah,

634
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But yeah, it just it

635
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 1: just feels in a way, just that it's still even

636
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: happening in I'm fascinated. I know, it feels like a

637
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: sort of sorcery, doesn't it to mold living material in

638
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: that manner? And also this could make uh an episode

639
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: all of all its own because this doesn't even touch

640
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: on this doesn't even touch on what the nature of

641
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: humanity is like? Is it? Is it a simple ratio

642
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: of cells? Is it? Is it? Once once more than

643
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: half of the cells in the animal's body by weight

644
00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: or whatever, Once those once they reach over, does that

645
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: animal become human? It's a good question, right, once or

646
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: is it just the type of cells. If all of

647
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: its cells are human, but it has the brain and

648
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: the nervous system of a different animal, is it not human?

649
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Where's the line? Is it

650
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: at the brain? Is it at the ratio? What makes

651
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: what makes a living thing human? Or what makes it sentient? Right?

652
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: Like this, this is a question that we will eventually

653
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: as a species have to answer. It's like, do animals

654
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: have souls right right? Or do they have legal rights?

655
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: What even is a soul? What even our legal rights?

656
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: How do we define this stuff? You know? Conspiracy at

657
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: how stuff works dot com. Send in your thoughts and

658
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: there an shaman or lawyers out there and let us

659
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: know what you think or both if you're if you're

660
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: a shaman lawyer, I would love to love to hear

661
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: your what what would that be? Litigious divinations? That's genius, Ben,

662
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: We could do that right. Um. We we also aren't

663
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 1: mentioned mean, you know, Matt, we we're not mentioning how

664
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: uh scientists have grown an ear on the body of

665
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: a mouse. Yeah, that's I mean, that's something we can

666
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: do as an ear replacement. No, it's true, it's true,

667
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: it's done. It would you do that? Would you if

668
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: you were missing an ear? Would you take a ear

669
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: grown from a road? It it's irreplaceable. That's what I was,

670
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: That's what I was feeling. Thank you know us we

671
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: we we come up with these live folks. Let us

672
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: know we're working live for you. Um. But these these

673
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: are so far just pretty much organic things. Right, I

674
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: propose that we pause for break from our sponsor and

675
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: we come back and we talk about technology. All right,

676
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: so we are back. The four of us are definitely

677
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: not extraordinary time travelers. But what we could be this

678
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: bio hacks. What the hell are bio hackers, you may

679
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: be asking, Well, yeah, it's people who already have an

680
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: Apple watch that monitors, you know, their heart rate, how

681
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: much they sleep, exactly what they're eating, what their bowel

682
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: movements look like, and everything. But they just want to

683
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: know more about what their body is doing. They want

684
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: to have a little bit more of more apps that

685
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: they can use, uh in the real world, more applicable things.

686
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: What you call wet waar right, yeah, except instead of

687
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: just wearing it on your wrist, why not put it

688
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: in your wrist or in your head? Yeah, your brain? Yeah, yes,

689
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: m hmm. We have the We have the means like

690
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: in the the old at the old beginning of the

691
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: six Million Dollar Man television show, which I've never seen him.

692
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 1: Just seeing the YouTube clip of the intro, I thought

693
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: that was cool. We have the means to build ourselves

694
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: faster and stronger. And wet waar Yes, is implanted within

695
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: your body, so technically like a pace maker would be

696
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: wet ware. This stuff is already much more familiar to us,

697
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: so much more common than we think. The folks we

698
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: call bio hackers today are making these implants themselves and

699
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: often in many cases implanting them in themselves without medical

700
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 1: supervision all the time, which drives some people just bananas.

701
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: And they you know, you you can give yourself certain abilities. Um, yeah,

702
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: we'll we'll probably do an episode on this too. But

703
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: like cities, okay, okay, the ones we have, the ones

704
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: that we found enlisted or maybe not super amazing, but

705
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: they're they're getting there right now. They're there to prove

706
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: a point, like their ability you can insult things, to

707
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 1: monitor your temperate pretty much an Apple watch. Yes, you're right,

708
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: you're right, you're right, it's inside. Um, the ability to

709
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: sense magnetic north, though, is that one is actually a

710
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: patchy to sense magnetics magnetic north? That's cool? Well, all

711
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 1: it does is they recommend that you put the patch

712
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: high on your chest and then you get like a

713
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: like a buzzy itch thing when you're facing magnetic north.

714
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: Isn't that nice? Just every time you look north? And

715
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 1: who doesn't want yet another unscratchable itch? Yeah, Like, I

716
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: mean that could be amazing if you're lost in the woods. True,

717
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: that's a really good point as long as yeah, no, no,

718
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: that's really it's good. It's really good. Yeah. Um. Then

719
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: the idea of implanting all kinds of stuff in your fingertips, right,

720
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: I think we did we talk about this another? Who

721
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 1: is the only think? Maybe you and I were talking

722
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: about this stuff, right, the one where you can sense

723
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: magnetic fields if you're close to them. Oh you mean

724
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: like the with the radio quiet zone and stuff like.

725
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: People that have sensitivity to electromagnetic fields. Oh, yeah, they

726
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: could do that. I wonder if they would be the

727
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: type to have that implant though, No, they would probably

728
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: want something to shield them from said m hmm, transmissions. Yeah,

729
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 1: maybe detecting them would help them do that. But some

730
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: some bio hackers have put small sensors in their fingertips

731
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: or even put magnets in their fingertips, which seems neat

732
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: but really inconvenient on a day to day basis. Just

733
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: if you if there's an on off switch somewhere in

734
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: your neck maybe or in your upper arm, then cool. Yeah,

735
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: that's that's the other question, right, I mean, currently these

736
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: implants are capable or or they're more like proof of

737
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: concept things. No one's Magneto yet, is what we're saying. Well,

738
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: at least Magneto hasn't shown up in the middle of

739
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: New York City or Gotham or wherever else Magneto coun

740
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: show up. Please don't show up in Gotham, Magneto. That

741
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: would be really cross world and weird. Actually, it might

742
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: read might help help the DC universe, So maybe maybe

743
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 1: it will, but actually it would help them out a lot,

744
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: at least in the film adaptations. But this is just

745
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: the beginning of something, you know, And that's that's the

746
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 1: argument they're making. They're paving the way. They see themselves

747
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: as pioneers who are the vanguard for something that may

748
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: become much more common and much more powerful in the future. Yeah,

749
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: because it does feel like at some point and who

750
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: you're listening out there, what do you think about this?

751
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 1: But it does feel like we're getting closer and closer

752
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: within the next few hundred years of becoming a lot

753
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: more of a synthetic species. Yeah, trans humanism, right, yeah,

754
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: And and I don't think that necessarily means bio hacking

755
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: in the way that it's being pursued right now. I

756
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: think it's going to mean something completely different, much more

757
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: synthetic than a synthetic addition to a biological entity. I

758
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: see what you mean. Yeah, yeah, something human plus right

759
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: or is uh noah, you've all Harari calls it homodaeus anyway,

760
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: so speaking, so you can really different. This is when

761
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: we put in just because I don't know, it's an ability?

762
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: Is it extraordinary? We're talking about globe luxation two words,

763
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: globe space luxation l U x A t I O

764
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: it what what is this exactly? Well, first of all,

765
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 1: you should go ahead and search it on YouTube. That's

766
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: probably the best way to do this. It is safe

767
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: for work, it's fine, Yeah, you'll be okay. It's the

768
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: thing where you've got eyes and then you could do

769
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: this other thing where the eyes kind of go pop

770
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: out a little bit or push out, you mean, just

771
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: like bug out or literally pop out and hang by

772
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: the optic nerve. No, and you don't pop them out,

773
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: but they just kind of partially partially go out. Yeah,

774
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: they're that's it. There's a Guinness Book of World Records

775
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: measurement for this, for the degree to which people can luxate.

776
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: Perhaps would be the word to make their eyes pop

777
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: out of their skulls. Oh, maximum luxation. I think that

778
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: could be a T shirt. But that's the question, you know,

779
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: is is it useful? It doesn't seem particularly useful. It's interesting,

780
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: but I mean like it could psych out your your enemy,

781
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: you know, if you were like in a street fight

782
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: or something. That's what I just thought of when you

783
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: said that, Matt. It's like you have achieved maximum luxation,

784
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: and that's like you know your opponent and then it

785
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: causes you the guy you're fighting against the freak out

786
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: and then you punch him in the nuts. Yeah. Like

787
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: the Maori practice of hakka, you know, the ritualized dance

788
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: if you could, if you could hawka and a luxe eate.

789
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: Now you're onto something haka luxation. So while we're talking

790
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: about eyes. This is what we found that's very interesting.

791
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: We have a couple more of Thyes, it's I guess

792
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: we will call it super record reading. It's a very

793
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 1: very very specific type of super site. You see, there's

794
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:08,439
Speaker 1: a medical diagnostician in Philadelphia named Dr Arthur Lindkin, and

795
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: Dr l over here can do something very weird. He

796
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: can identify the music on a phonograph record, like on

797
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: a vital record, just by looking at the grooves on

798
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: its surface. He doesn't have to listen to it. He

799
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: can look at it and he it's like he can

800
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: hear the music. Wow. He doesn't even have to feel

801
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: it or anything, because it's just such a tactile medium.

802
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: But the grooves interview, I thought, my in my head

803
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 1: when we were looking into this, it I like I

804
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 1: would imagine him feeling the grooves, yeah, and almost knowing

805
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: that way, but just by sight. That's impressive. Well. The

806
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: claim was tested and verified by James Randy, who, depending

807
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: on what side do of the fence you fall on

808
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: on on our show, you either love or hate, yeah,

809
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: or in my case, pity. But the no, he's some

810
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 1: important things. Just feel bad for him. But Dr Lincoln

811
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: has a couple of caveats for this. He says he

812
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: can only identify post Beethoven classical music if it's fully orchestrated.

813
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 1: He cannot identify spoken word recordings or the works of

814
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: contemporary classical composers who are relatively unknown. It's kind of

815
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 1: like he has to already be somewhat familiar with the song.

816
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 1: I I don't know about this, because I mean, yeah,

817
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: I always have been fascinated by, you know, cutting records

818
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: and like what that entails, and the fact that it

819
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: is somehow physically making that sound because you can like

820
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: have the record player the electronics turned off, and you

821
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: can turn the record, rotate it under the needle, and

822
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: you'll still actually hear faint, you know, recreation of the sound. Um.

823
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: I would want to know a little bit more about that,

824
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 1: but I don't know. Like it's sort of like looking

825
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: at a wave form of audio, right, so you could

826
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: maybe identify the peaks and valleys of what a waveform

827
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: looked like and be able to correlate it to a

828
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: particular piece of music if you knew it super well.

829
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: You could say, here's those stabs of because those are

830
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: the peaks, and then it gets quiet and you could

831
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: identify that, but I don't know that the grooves on

832
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: a record quite correlate in that same way. Listeners, let

833
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: let's let's let me know if I'm wrong. But I

834
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe maybe it's just a matter of familiarizing

835
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: yourself with it and just learning the language of what

836
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: the grooves look like. But I think that's what it

837
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: has to be, because there's a great article on them

838
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: in the l A Times from seven about the test

839
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: that Randy gives him. And they have a different they

840
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: have like various records. Um, let me see they had

841
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: they had some controls, like they had two different recordings

842
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: of Stravinsky's Las and and Alice Cooper recording spoke a

843
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,479
Speaker 1: word recording. And then they had other stuff that fit

844
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: into what he should be able to eat, like the

845
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: Planets by Holst, twelve overture by Tchaikovsky, uh Mozart symphonies,

846
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 1: and a couple of other things. And here's here's the

847
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: way he does this. He's a very very near sighted.

848
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: Guy's super thick glasses. So they shuffle the recordings. He

849
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: takes one off the pile, he takes his glasses off,

850
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: he places his eye at the edge of the recording

851
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: and slowly rotates it. As as he's watching, he's slowly

852
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: rotating it, and we're looking at it like straight on,

853
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: like across they're they're not, I haven't seen video of it,

854
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: but they just said the edge of it. And then

855
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: he said when he made his guests, he said, I

856
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: think that this is Beethoven's sixth Symphony. However, there's an

857
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: extra movement in here that I can't understand. Is it

858
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,959
Speaker 1: a strange recording? And Randy says, you know, I can't

859
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: tell you. We got this whole test thing going on.

860
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: So the guy keeps reading it, reading this record, and

861
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: then he says, yes, it is the sixth Symphony, but

862
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: it also contains an additional overture that I will guess

863
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: is the Prometheus overture. He was correct just from looking

864
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: at this stuff. And then he did he also he

865
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: figured out that one thing he was looking at he

866
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: was like, oh man, this thing is Sherman or He's like,

867
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: this thing is really weird. It's like disorganized, it's like gibberish.

868
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: I don't understand what's happening in this record? What what

869
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: is this thing? And it turned out to be an

870
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: Alice Cooper record. Yes, that was he. He didn't say

871
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 1: that's totally Alice Cooper, but he did say it was chipperish. Uh.

872
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: And then he was also able to differentiate between like

873
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 1: the nationalities of orchestras, which is just insane. I'm tempted

874
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: to think, I don't know, maybe he just spent so

875
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 1: much time, like as as we said earlier, maybe spend

876
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: so much time listening to records and memorizing their movements

877
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: and stuff. But it does mean he's looking at records

878
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: a whole lot, a ton. At the very least, it's

879
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 1: a very interesting way to pass the time. Yeah. Yeah,

880
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: I think he listens to them too. Do you think

881
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: he enjoys music or is he's just sort of like

882
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 1: this highly neurotic record viewer. I don't know. He I

883
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 1: think he has to listen to them because then his

884
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: because then his mind is associating two senses to kind

885
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: of confirm what's happening. So he's watching the thing and

886
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: in his head he's hearing the song. But see, my

887
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: thing is this, like if I knew what record, if

888
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: I knew intimately the look of a particular record, I

889
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: could tell because there's thick lines between the songs, and

890
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: there's only like some records you can't fit enough on

891
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: one side that there's a lot of empty space in

892
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: the center, right, so there's like a portion of the

893
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: vinyl in the interior that's blank and just smooth. So

894
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: I would argue that if you just memorized the look

895
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 1: of a record, like in terms of how many tracks

896
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: were on each side and how much empty space there

897
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: was and what it looked like, you could have like

898
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: a signature in your head. Oh, this is what the

899
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: planets looks like. This is what Houses of the Holy

900
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: by led Zeppelin looks like. You know, you could tell

901
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: file that away in your mind without actually being able

902
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: to interpret magically through the site. You know, the sound

903
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: of the look of the records. But that's I mean,

904
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: the only. That's that's where I think I'm at as well,

905
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: the only, And that's what Randy concluded, by the way,

906
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: something like that, but a little more. The language uses

907
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: a little different, but it's more or less the same thing.

908
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 1: The big test then would be whether Dr Lindn could

909
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: look at a record from song you never heard and

910
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: then sing along. That would be that would be showing

911
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: this ability. He would be a human record player. That

912
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: would be the next level. That would be absolutely absolutely,

913
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: But there is another form of super site that is

914
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: a lot more useful. This is very interesting, but I

915
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: don't think I don't think super record reading qualifies for

916
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: Avenger level, but super site just might. Okay, so super site,

917
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: now we're not we aren't necessarily talking um like eagle

918
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: vision or um laser sight or cyclops stuff going on

919
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: in this in this uh world, in this version of

920
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: our superheroes, we're talking about actual just supersite, amazingly good seeing.

921
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: Veronica Cedar s e I d E R. Of Stuttegart, Germany.

922
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: She holds the record of having the absolute best eyesight

923
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: in the world. So I have I'm terribly near sighted.

924
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: I don't know about you guys, if you have any

925
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: of that stuff going on, but my visual acuity is

926
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: nowhere near twenty, which is considered average good that's what

927
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: human vision should be. But she has been measured around

928
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: twenty two slash two, yeah, not twenty two. This means

929
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 1: she can identify people from more than a mile away.

930
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: She can identify tiny little people, so would be a

931
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: great sniper, right, Yeah, that's exactly what it is. UM that,

932
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: and that's strange because surely there's a genetic component to that,

933
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: but how do we how do we find that gene

934
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: how do we isolate? How do we express it? I

935
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: was looking ardently too for someone was super speed, yeah,

936
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: like a flash so not in the husain bolt who

937
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: is very fast over short distances, but someone who's very

938
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: fast running at one type of speed. But it was

939
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: looking for something that was, um, just super speed in general.

940
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: And the closest I could find was what we I

941
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: guess we could call super reflexes. There's a there's a

942
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: guy who holds a very very um specific record for

943
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: this and a Guinness Book of World Records, which is

944
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: admittedly not the not the most solid source. But his

945
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: name is as How Machi and he is from Chiyoda, Tokyo, Japan. Uh.

946
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: He is fast enough with his sword that he can

947
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: cut B B pellets in half and the let's see,

948
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: I think, um, this is a video you can watch

949
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: with this. I remember seeing this on Reddit slash videos

950
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: and that's his that that to me, it seems to

951
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: indicate that his reaction time is much much quicker than

952
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:37,439
Speaker 1: the average bear or the average sword wielding bear. Absolutely

953
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: so this, This seems neat Now, this is a question

954
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: for the audience. Is this something that has learned or

955
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: is this something genetic? You know what I mean? Aside

956
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: from the technique you have to learn to wield a sword, yeah,

957
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: there are a lot of proper techniques that take a

958
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: long time to learn that I think he's Yeah, probably

959
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: had to have mastered to be able to do this.

960
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,919
Speaker 1: But like, okay, here's the question. If you were playing

961
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: whack a mole or something, would he be the world

962
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: champion of that too? Would he just be like bam bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam,

963
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: pam bam maybe because he would react so quickly. I

964
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: don't know. It's a good question. We should put him

965
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: in front of all those machines. We should write to him.

966
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: He set the record in. He's probably still around and

967
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: you know what, I bet he replies to emails very quickly.

968
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: Oh that was not worth it. But but these are

969
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: These are some of the powers we collected today, and yes,

970
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: some of them may seem more useful than others. But

971
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: it leads us to a big question that I don't

972
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: think we quite answered. In our first episode of this series,

973
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: and that question is why does this actually matter? Right?

974
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: So far, it sounds pretty inspiring or at least interesting

975
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: through various means, certain parts of the human population, as

976
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: you said, Matt, very small parts of the human population

977
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: have acquired fascinating and at times supremely useful abilities, and

978
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: people will even argue that certain things that are genetic

979
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: disadvantages are themselves extraordinary abilities. I'm partially color blind, but

980
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: if someone was like, Ben, what are you gonna do

981
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: with this amazing ability to not see all the colors?

982
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: I would shrug because it's it seems relatively useless. Right,

983
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: But at this point, there's no threat of an ascendant

984
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: superhuman class, right, a race of superior people, thank goodness.

985
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: Kind of there's kind of not the billionaires, but there is. Yeah,

986
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: that's the thing. There is a threat of this happening

987
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:46,959
Speaker 1: because as we speak, as we record today, in three

988
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: countries have been conducting extensive research on human enhancement projects,

989
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 1: and that touch on almost every single ability we mentioned

990
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: in this series, with the exception except for globe luxation

991
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: and uh, maximum luxation. Thank you. Yes, the Pentagon is

992
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 1: not as concerned with that yet, but we know for

993
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: a fact that not only three countries doing this, but

994
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: they have been doing it for years, for possibly decades,

995
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: while definitely decades now, it's uh. Back in the nineties

996
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 1: and late eighties, the US, particularly the Pentagon, began investing

997
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: huge amounts of money and research in the creation of

998
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: super soldiers, individuals enhanced through technology, drug use, and nowadays,

999
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: in the future the very near future, genetic alteration to

1000
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: make them impervious to pain, with superhuman stamina, super strength,

1001
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: reflexes that put uh this aw match its shame, and

1002
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: even superhuman intellect and no need to sleep. Here's the

1003
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: frightening thing. The US government claims that they started doing

1004
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: this because China and Russia the Soviet Union at the time,

1005
01:01:56,120 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: we're already operating enhanced human pro grams for similar purposes

1006
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: to build super soldiers. And the implied threat here is

1007
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 1: that other nations do this without following the same ethical

1008
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: constraints as the US does in theory on paper, but

1009
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: you know whatever, that is really freaky, especially when you

1010
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: think about some of the efforts that Germany was making

1011
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: back in the day to you know, make the uber

1012
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: bench and and actually, I guess not genetic manipulation, but

1013
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: some breeding stuff that was going on, and some of

1014
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 1: the there's some creepiness going on in Germany, and to

1015
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: think that it's spread out amongst all these other superpowers, now, yeah, right,

1016
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: because the Soviet Union in China survived World War Two,

1017
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: but Germany did not, just a lot of its scientists.

1018
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: So yeah. And then even in um the recent years,

1019
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: you know, news came and went about China's alleged eugenics

1020
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: program for basketball players, which has a surprising amount of

1021
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: saying to it. So that's the conclusion today. The scary

1022
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: thing is the superpowers themselves want superpowers, and they're not

1023
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 1: going to stop researching them. People, most likely soldiers and

1024
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 1: analysts with extraordinary abilities, are on the way, and the

1025
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: only debate now is who will get them and how

1026
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: these powers will be used. People are already arguing this

1027
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: violates the Geneva conventions, but there's not really I mean,

1028
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: there's not really a compelling way to stop this. Yeah,

1029
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: even to get it on the books anywhere. If it's

1030
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: happening beneath the black budget of let's say a Pentagon

1031
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: or some other you know, more secretive budget. Yeah, I

1032
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, what do you think is it already.

1033
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: I this is just my opinion, but I feel like

1034
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: it's already gone too far, and the possible medical benefits

1035
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: are so attractive and have the potential to help so

1036
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: many people that they will always be used as a

1037
01:03:55,960 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 1: rationalization to build like these unsleeping, unfeeling order machines. I

1038
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 1: think it's not needed anymore. For the same reason that

1039
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: I don't understand the bio hacking, wet were stuff. All

1040
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 1: of that kind of research has been switched over to

1041
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: artificial intelligence and drones and robotics that because you don't

1042
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: need a human, you don't need to breed a human,

1043
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: you just build a thing. Yeah, you don't think it's

1044
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 1: sort of an extension of like extreme body modification culture

1045
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 1: and kind of fads or whatever, like the idea of

1046
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 1: being the complete architect of your own physicality. You know.

1047
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, I see that. I see that. I'm

1048
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: speaking specifically to superpowers, the the national countries, the superpowers

1049
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: trying to create super human soldiers. It seems like the

1050
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: time for that has past. Well, I mean, it's still there,

1051
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 1: and it's creepy that they're doing it. They're probably still

1052
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 1: doing it because why would you stop. It's just there's

1053
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: probably not as much money going into it as there

1054
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Speaker 1: is going into the AI cheap drones kind of thing. Well,

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Speaker 1: it also depends on the nature of the military. So

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest resources that the military of China

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Speaker 1: has is a massive population. So is it at what

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Speaker 1: at what point is it more cost effective to modify

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Speaker 1: those people versus manufacturing a drone. It's a weird way

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Speaker 1: to think about it. It's a good way to think

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Speaker 1: about it. It's brutal, not good. It's I mean yeah,

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Speaker 1: because to some and at some point in some societs,

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Speaker 1: perhaps the cost of human life is cheaper than the

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Speaker 1: cost of good tech. And then there's also the AI problem,

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Speaker 1: which is right now, most of what we think of

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Speaker 1: as AI is not a machine consciousness. It's something that

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Speaker 1: is able to solve certain problems very well or maybe

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Speaker 1: find certain patterns right very quickly. Think about it this

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Speaker 1: way though, to grow in effective combat ready human being

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Speaker 1: it takes fifteen to eighteen years. Yeah, that's a good

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Speaker 1: point too. So to make a you can mass produce

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Speaker 1: a drone I mean pretty easily and pretty cheaply at

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Speaker 1: this point. Yeah, yeah, because we'd have to we have

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Speaker 1: to be privy to some numbers. That would be pretty

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Speaker 1: frightening to make the call on that. But I bring

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Speaker 1: up the AI because would it be better to enhance.

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Speaker 1: So AI doesn't have the capability and in some cases

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Speaker 1: it's ethically constrained from making some decisions, right, UH, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't have the ability to make all the nuances of

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Speaker 1: of UH analysis that a human can at this point.

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Speaker 1: So if we're war mongers, right, if we're war leaders,

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Speaker 1: do we make an imperfect AI or do we bend

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Speaker 1: the rules of ethics and hook someone up such that

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Speaker 1: through implants they can communicate directly with the drone or

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Speaker 1: with the machine, and then hey, while we're in their brain,

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Speaker 1: why don't we put in an implant that will be

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Speaker 1: able to deliver systemized and auctions to them or turn

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Speaker 1: off emotional reactions, both of which are possible, or you know,

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Speaker 1: explode if they try to run away both, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. Make it a one stop shop. Let's

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Speaker 1: just let's let's go for it. I could see that happening,

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Speaker 1: and I could see people signing up to the Coora

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Speaker 1: missed and so on. Don't listen to him, Well, what

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Speaker 1: do you think? Let us know, there's a lot to

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Speaker 1: chew on here. Um, this has been a fun one, Ben,

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Speaker 1: You're right, these were a little different than the ones

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Speaker 1: in our part one episode. Uh. And I get the

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Speaker 1: connection to the Great Lakes Avengers now because some of

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Speaker 1: their powers are a little, shall we say, underwhelming, But

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Speaker 1: wrapped up in some of these slightly useless and underwhelming

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Speaker 1: powers are a lot of good thought experiments and interesting ideas,

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Speaker 1: and the notion of what it means to be human,

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Speaker 1: I think is really at the forefront of these discussions.

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Speaker 1: So I'm really into it, and I thought it was

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Speaker 1: a fun one. Yes. And while you're letting us know

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Speaker 1: what you think, you're probably wondering which method of internet, um,

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Speaker 1: medium media you will use to express your thoughts. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can find us on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, all the hits,

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Speaker 1: all the good ones. But you can also talk to

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