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Speaker 2: A day. Hey, Crats, I found todd father on his birthday.

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Speaker 2: Oh no wait, that's John Henry, Red Sox owner celebrating

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Speaker 2: let me bring out my finest Cuban tod father. Is

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Speaker 2: that what you did last night for your birthday?

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Speaker 3: No cigars? That a good night when I went a

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Speaker 3: nice steakhouse Center Steakhouse in Point Pleasant Beach and uh

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Speaker 3: killed two birds and one stone. Took my wife out

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Speaker 2: Oh that was like that double bouquet action right there, Krats,

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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm just.

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Speaker 1: Gonna go bang this Valentine's Day out with my birthday.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry about Why don't you get a second steak

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Speaker 3: It was her. It was her idea that was it

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Speaker 2: Well, that's great. I like that. Hey, a j this

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Speaker 4: About time. It's about time for both of them, for

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Speaker 4: And now Bregman's off the board, so we can move

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Speaker 4: It makes me happy because I mean I said yesterday like,

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Speaker 4: come on, let's get this. I know we do the

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Speaker 2: That's what it's for. So now you're happy. But now

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Speaker 2: So let's charge the damn mad Let's charge it about

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Speaker 2: all right. So, since you were so excited about it,

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Speaker 4: Well, no, this is one of the places we thought about, right.

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Speaker 4: where's he gonna play? So do we know if Bregman's

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Speaker 2: I think it's thirty.

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Speaker 4: Still making it's still making forty million. He's still making

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Speaker 2: And for the Red Sox Todd Father, I mean, they

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Speaker 4: They have had the Yankees number. I have to go

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Speaker 1: Seven sixty eight to seven sixty five. You're paying one

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Speaker 2: You said he's not going to opt out. He got

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Speaker 1: All right, it's so unfair that the Dodgers are paying

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Speaker 3: Know you're good?

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Speaker 2: Aj Actually, top father now too, you guys all have

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Speaker 2: If you're calling a game where you're not calling it

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Speaker 4: If you're not if you don't get pitched out by

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Speaker 2: though the offer was dangling there for a while. Aj

432
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,200
Speaker 2: beyond the do you think that there was something inside

433
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,960
Speaker 2: his head that said, I'd like to go somewhere else

434
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 2: to see how it goes and to get the trash

435
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,960
Speaker 2: can scandal stink out of here because it does kind

436
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 2: of separate things once you leave. I'm serious about this one.

437
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 2: We don't cover it a lot, but Alex Bregman was

438
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:23,200
Speaker 2: one of the most in the media like trash talk

439
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,439
Speaker 2: fun guys, and then once that hit, it kind of

440
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,720
Speaker 2: silenced most of the players that were on that team.

441
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,320
Speaker 2: Maybe Kratz is the right one for this first because

442
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 2: it's Houston, but you guys know how he was his

443
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,680
Speaker 2: first couple of years in the league, and then once

444
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,919
Speaker 2: that scandal hit, it changed things. So I'm just like,

445
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,399
Speaker 2: in the back of his head, does he want to

446
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,479
Speaker 2: go somewhere else so that it's not just constant booze

447
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,160
Speaker 2: about the Houston situation because he had to carry the freight,

448
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 2: especially down the stretch here. There's really almost nobody left

449
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,120
Speaker 2: from that team on the Astros anymore.

450
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Speaker 1: I don't think I think it's more of what you

451
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 1: just said, I don't think he sees the future there.

452
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,679
Speaker 1: I don't think he sees the same now if the

453
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 1: money had gotten close, I'm sure he likes it in Houston,

454
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 1: But does he see what is what's coming down the pipeline?

455
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 1: Does he see that? Man, we had some dudes, now

456
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 1: we don't have Tucker Framber is going to be gone.

457
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 1: Where's Correy has been gone for a minute now? Like

458
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 1: maybe he just doesn't see the future there. It's like, hey,

459
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna keep winning.

460
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,440
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think the Astros are fine. I

461
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 4: think they have young guys. I mean, they don't have

462
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 4: a great farm system, but they always seem to figure

463
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,120
Speaker 4: it out right one way or another. So I don't

464
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,919
Speaker 4: know about that. I just think the money he was

465
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 4: the money wasn't there, And he said the whole time

466
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 4: he wanted to get past a certain number of the

467
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 4: Astros didn't get there. He got it from Boston. He

468
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 4: went there. I mean, you could do worse than going

469
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 4: from Houston to Boston. Syke went from Houston to another

470
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 4: city that's not as good as Boston. So I just

471
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 4: think it was about the money, and because you know,

472
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 4: if he wanted to stay in Houston. He could have

473
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 4: signed the six one fifty six forever ago. So he

474
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 4: just he just wanted to get that money. He got

475
00:21:58,680 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 4: the money. He went. Good for him.

476
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, great for him and for Detroit.

477
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 4: And the asker is already pivoted. Let's not forget the

478
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 4: aswer's already pivoted. They saw this coming, right, Dana Brown

479
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 4: saw this coming, even got parades, Tyle Tucker. Guess they

480
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 4: got a third basement back, right, So he knew this

481
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 4: was coming. He thought this could come. He already knew

482
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 4: in his mind when he said the other day, Hey,

483
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 4: we've made an offer, but he's probably gone. Get ready,

484
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 4: Well now he's gone.

485
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 2: And lastly, here Todd Filer, I give Detroit credit. I mean,

486
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 2: I didn't know they were going to this length. Six years,

487
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 2: one seventy one point five is a nice offer. I mean,

488
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,880
Speaker 2: I think they kind of to gather something good and

489
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,880
Speaker 2: it would have been a really big impact to the team.

490
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 2: We were saying it, We're like, how is Detroit not

491
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 2: really involved? Like, I mean, we knew they were involved,

492
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 2: but we didn't know the numbers. That's a good number.

493
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Speaker 3: Yeah, agreed, agreed, they're coming. Listen, they're a good team.

494
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 3: They played together as a team there. Nobody know why

495
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 3: guys there, And I think Bregman would have just came

496
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 3: in and followed suit and said, hey, here I am.

497
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 3: I'm ready to play and enjoy playing with this type

498
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 3: of squad, and you know, we're gona see a lot

499
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 3: of good things from Detroit this year. There team that

500
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 3: everybody knows and understands what they're capable of now. And

501
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 3: you know, with or with Al Bragman, they're still going

502
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 3: to be pretty good team. So they're gonna make some

503
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 3: noise in the central for sure.

504
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 2: Nick Pavetta signs. This one's super unique. Tod Father, would

505
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 2: you have taken this deal if you're Nick Pavetta, because

506
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 2: you are dealing with the qualifying offer punishment and it's

507
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 2: a real punishment for players, especially someone like him. He

508
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: turned down the qualifying offer, but he did end up

509
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,959
Speaker 2: getting himself a long term deal at fifty five million

510
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 2: dollars over four seasons. Here's the unique part, and yes,

511
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 2: Robert Murray pointing out it's more than Peter Alonzo's guarantee.

512
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 2: All though again, Pete's gonna opt out as long as

513
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 2: everything looks normal for him. Vetta gets four million bucks

514
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five, and then his salary goes to

515
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 2: nineteen mil in twenty twenty six, fourteen and twenty seven,

516
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 2: eighteen mil in twenty twenty eight. Would you have taken

517
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 2: that contract?

518
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 3: Most definitely, most definitely. I mean, listen, I think he's

519
00:23:58,720 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 3: a great pitcher.

520
00:23:59,640 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 2: Uh.

521
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 3: I don't know all the calculations about what he's worth,

522
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 3: but I feel like that's a fair offer for him.

523
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 3: He's a guy that's been around a long time, he's

524
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 3: a veteran, He's going to help any ball club. I

525
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 3: think the Padres did a really good thing here and

526
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 3: picking up a really good pitcher. You know, he's not

527
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 3: one of those guys where you know, then Nick, it's

528
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 3: like all right Nick about his pitch him. But he's

529
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 3: not that, you know, the show tany type. But he's

530
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 3: still a dominant pitcher that'll go out there and give

531
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 3: you all he's got. I think this is a really

532
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 3: good deal for the Padres, and I think this is

533
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 3: a really good deal for Nick to kind of solidify

534
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 3: his career with four more years and kind of walk

535
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 3: off into the sunset.

536
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 2: And there's a couple optats in there just in case

537
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 2: he pops off because aj he's been a potential guy

538
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 2: for a while and he's still kind of a saber

539
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 2: Metric Darling big strikeout percentage. The stuff numbers like stuff

540
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 2: plus are really high up. Not a huge walk rate,

541
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 2: but the era is just always hanging around higher than

542
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 2: it should be. Right.

543
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 4: Well, you know why because he as a walk guys

544
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 4: he falls behind and Athoss Todd would say, a meatball

545
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 4: right down the middle, and guy's mashing the ohky for

546
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 4: Nick Pavetta's he's got to get ahead in the count.

547
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 4: If he's ahead in the count, Dennis stuff plays. That's

548
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 4: why sometimes I think when he went to the bullpen.

549
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 4: Was it last year he went to the bullpen for

550
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 4: Bitt and had an unbelievable success, and then they tried

551
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 4: him back as a starter, Right, so I think he

552
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 4: goes in the bullpen, he changes his mindset. If he

553
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 4: could take that mindset as a starter and to be like,

554
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 4: I'm attacking from pitch one, which we all you know,

555
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 4: everyone tells him, I'm sure, Hey, Nick, you got to

556
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 4: attack pitch one. But sometimes when you go into the bullpen,

557
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 4: it just changed you. Hey, I don't have to try

558
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 4: to save anything for five or six innings, I got

559
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 4: one or two innings, let's go. I don't know. I

560
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 4: love this deal for him. I think it's a great

561
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 4: move for the Padres. It solidifies because one of their

562
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 4: question marks was their starting rotation. We said it was

563
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 4: cease and Darvish must groves down. Well we're not sure

564
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 4: after that, but now they at least can throw Pavetta

565
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 4: in there. It's a great signing for the Padres.

566
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

567
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be really good. And just

568
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: to clarify, twenty twenty three it is when he was

569
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,239
Speaker 2: bouncing around, right, and then twenty four they put him

570
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: back in there and he was pretty good. I got

571
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 2: to look at the adjusted park numbers, but it was

572
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 2: it was a low four z R.

573
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 4: Well here's the thing, here's the thing for the Padres.

574
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 4: I want to say this about the Padres. He's not made.

575
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 4: What's you making this year? Four?

576
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 3: Right? Four?

577
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 4: Is it four million? First year?

578
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 2: Four?

579
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah?

580
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 4: Guess what. Who's having financial problems because they're in a

581
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 4: lawsuit the Padres. Right, So this is a great deal

582
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 4: for them. They're like, oh, we got a starting pitcher

583
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 4: for four year, four million. Oh and we could have

584
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 4: them for three more years. Yeah, we'll take that one

585
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 4: any day of the week.

586
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 2: This wasn't an accident, right, They're like, hey, we're going

587
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 2: to get you a decent coin over a two year span,

588
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 2: but you got to work with us on year one, Kratz,

589
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 2: because there's an ownership battle right now in courts and

590
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 2: really just overall, the Padres are just trying to keep

591
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 2: their payroll in check a little bit because it naturally

592
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 2: went up based on current player salaries by about thirty

593
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 2: million dollars. They're a high payroll team, and yet they

594
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 2: lose Profar who else who's the other big besides your

595
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 2: boy Higashioka. Who else did they lose? Kim Tanner, Scott

596
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 2: Tenner Scott and Tanna Scott? Thanks thanks for your help everyone.

597
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 2: So they lost all of those guys, and then you

598
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 2: put in Paveta to that rotation fit starter spot. There's

599
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 2: a good competition if they do pivot here and not

600
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 2: end up trading Cease or Michael King. It's a really

601
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: good rotation.

602
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: And with Joe and with Musgrove down for the rest

603
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: of the year with that injury sustained in the playoffs, like, yeah,

604
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 1: good rotation. I mean, nobody's counting the Padres out even

605
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: before this deal. I just hope this deal isn't a

606
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: prequel to them saying okay, now we can dump Cease.

607
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 1: I mean, they would definitely end up saving like eight million.

608
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 2: Then this year, how much money it saves, Well, I'm.

609
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: Saying, compared to add adding Paveta at four million this year,

610
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: I think Cease is gonna get like twelve seven or

611
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: thirteen million something like that. So essentially you're adding a

612
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: pitcher that would save you eight million if you're able

613
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: to get rid of Cease, you know what I'm saying,

614
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: Like Swapa.

615
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they would save right, they would save pretty good

616
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: money there. Or as Ken Rosenthal said on Fair Territory,

617
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: which should definitely check out after our show it already aired,

618
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: Robert Suarez could be the one and he said, you

619
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 2: know they could put the bullpen back together easier than

620
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: the rotation. I agree. I mean, really, you don't want

621
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 2: to trade anyone, but it is what it is.

622
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 4: This makes it I think it makes it more likely

623
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 4: that he stays now because of this move.

624
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 3: Why for me, just.

625
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 4: Because I think they got a starter on the cheap,

626
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,719
Speaker 4: and now you know they were looking for starters. They

627
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 4: got one on the chief for year one. He's a

628
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 4: free agency the end of the year. I think, at

629
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 4: least at the beginning of the year. I think it

630
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 4: makes it more likely stays.

631
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 2: All right, we can keep this going for another few

632
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: minutes here, So Todd father, if the Padres keep all

633
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: of these guys and don't end up moving one of

634
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: them because of the budget concerns, I mean, they might

635
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 2: not be as good as last year, but they're pretty good.

636
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I probably entering the season have Dodgers Diamondbacks

637
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: than Padres. But I just keep looking back at a

638
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: team that wasn't scared of LA and has a lot

639
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: of the same pieces in place.

640
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this West Coast is interesting because me included,

641
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 3: I think the Dodgers are going to run away with it.

642
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 3: You know, you'd have to be silly not to think that,

643
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 3: knowing who they just picked up and who they got

644
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 3: in the offseason. And then the Padres. I mean, listen,

645
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 3: Diamondbacks had that good year two years ago, nice, nice run,

646
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 3: almost won the whole thing. They kind of fizzled at

647
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 3: the end last year. And now you know, Padres, you

648
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 3: said it, Scott, you said it like eighteen different ways

649
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 3: every different time their World Series champs, if they don't lose,

650
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 3: you know, two games straight against the Dodgers, so you know,

651
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 3: they just gotta There's just something about them where it's

652
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 3: just like they just don't finish or there's there's something

653
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 3: that always comes up with them, you know, whether it's

654
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 3: a problem in the clubhouse or you know, an injury

655
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 3: or something, and it always just it's there. It's a

656
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 3: fickle team, you know. So I love them. I do.

657
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 3: I love them a lot. I just I just know

658
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: where the Dodgers are at, and it's just the Dodgers

659
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 3: versus everybody else. But I think the Padres have a

660
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 3: really good ball club, and I think they're gonna make

661
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: some noise. It's just a matter of you know what

662
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 3: wild card spot they're gonna get in pretty much.

663
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 4: I scoffed at A. J.

664
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: Preller's comment when he was like, we need one more

665
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: picture and we need one or two more bats, and

666
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, right, no way, you had your chance,

667
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: you missed out on it proved me wrong. He got

668
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: his one picture. Now let's see will he go and

669
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: get one or two more bats.

670
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: Aj I was shocked when I saw Pavetta to the

671
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 2: padres I was like, wait what, I thought they're trying

672
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: to cut payroll. And then I saw the structure of

673
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: the deal and I was like, super clever, Bipreller, I'm

674
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 2: sure they tried that, my guess is a while ago.

675
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: And he was like, shit, right, I'm not doing that,

676
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: not taking five million or four million whatever. I just

677
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: said bucks in the first year of that contract. But

678
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: eventually it turned out to be the best offer and

679
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 2: pretty good guaranteed money for him.

680
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 4: I agree. I think I think that this helps the

681
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 4: padres No. I mean, let's not forget the Diamondbacks went

682
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 4: out and got Corbyn Burns and Josh Naylor made some move,

683
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 4: So I mean, I think it keeps him in the mix.

684
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 4: Are they better than the Dodgers and the Diamondbacks right now?

685
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 4: On paper? Probably not? But aj Preller, knowing him, he's

686
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 4: probably not done. And you know, they lost a lot. Listen,

687
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 4: they lost Tanner Scott, they lost Kim, they lost Profar.

688
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 4: I mean, they lost a lot of dudes, and a

689
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 4: Suarez is down. Watch out.

690
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wouldn't be a Super bowlpen anymore. Anyway, Let's

691
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: get into this Marcus Stroman situation here for ten minutes.

692
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: So stro took his physical on Tuesday. Today is Thursday.

693
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: He's been a no show for workouts for the last

694
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 2: two days. The club's not certain yet when he's going

695
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 2: to be on the field. Technically, according to the CBA

696
00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: the agreement between MLB owners and players, you're not required

697
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 2: to be on the field until February twenty second. The

698
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: club was informed by Stroman's agent before his physical. I

699
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: guess about the missing time. Aaron Boone has talked about this,

700
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: and it was pretty interesting the way that he quoted it,

701
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: because he used the word awkward. Are we going to

702
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: show that or we're just going to talk about it?

703
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: Let me know, but otherwise, no, we're not going to

704
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: show it. So I can I can read the quote.

705
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I can find it as we're talking,

706
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 2: because it's pretty important because I think it helps to

707
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: tell the story. So Boone said he quote had an

708
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 2: idea that Stroman wouldn't show up for workouts these last

709
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 2: two days and that he understands quote how it looks.

710
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: He called it quote a little bit of an awkward situation.

711
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: But Boone has talked to Stroman and expects him in

712
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: camp in the next few days. So this is perfect

713
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: topic for a player's show. I'll give one more bit

714
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 2: of context and then let's swing it around here because

715
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: I don't know how this all works, but I do

716
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: know that most players report when they're supposed to report,

717
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: even though there's technicalities, and when you can show up.

718
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: Stroman was in trade rumors this offseason. They couldn't figure

719
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: it out, and he didn't pitch I think at all

720
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, which for a competitor like him, definitely

721
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 2: bothered him. I don't even have to ask him to

722
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: know that. So, Todd, Father, have you ever seen anything

723
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 2: like this aside from a player missing time due to

724
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: personal reasons or a VS issue. I'm taking that out

725
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: because we would have heard about that.

726
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I have. I remember Norse Hopper Blast in

727
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 3: the past. Man, he leadoff guy, pretty much get you

728
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 3: a single any time of the week, any day of

729
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 3: the week you wanted. He's one of those guys that

730
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 3: would show up the day he was supposed to show

731
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 3: up by rule. You know, it's one of those things

732
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 3: you don't have to come to camp. I know everybody

733
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,479
Speaker 3: says it doesn't look good. I get it. These are

734
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 3: the rules of engagement. This is the rules of baseball.

735
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 3: You know, from what I'm hearing, Boone and Strowman are

736
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 3: on good terms. There's nothing really weird about it. I think,

737
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 3: you know what he said that kind of made it

738
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 3: look like, you know, Stroman is a guy that he's

739
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: not coming, you know what's going on. There's rumors of this,

740
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 3: there's really no rumor to it. He'll be there over

741
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 3: the weekend, and when Monday strolls around, it's it's game

742
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 3: time for him. So you know, it's a veteran guy.

743
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 3: He's made a lot of money over his career, and

744
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 3: you know he understands the gruel and grind of the year.

745
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 3: And I think he's gonna be uh just fine once

746
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 3: he comes back over the weekend.

747
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: I've always said the Vets don't need to show up

748
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: until a little bit later in spring training, not like

749
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: this though.

750
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 4: Not.

751
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: I mean, look, Strocho knows what he needs to do.

752
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: Is he doing it for a reason only he knows?

753
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: We can speculate. But I never even knew that this

754
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: was a possibility, Like if AJ knew this was a possibility.

755
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: He has shown up for games too, just for the

756
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: games on the twenty second, like that's the first day.

757
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: But I was there ten days ahead of time. I

758
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: was as a kid, say I was too much of

759
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: a try hard if you're able to show up late.

760
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: But you know, if he's upset, If he is upset

761
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: and that's why he's not showing up, you know what,

762
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: there's a lot worse ways you could go about it.

763
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: He just he's just not there. Hopefully it's not a distraction.

764
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: I hate when people are like, who is this a

765
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: distraction for the team. Oh, he's a starting pitcher. It's

766
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: not like they're you know, they're playing without a center fielder.

767
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 3: Bye. By rule, they don't have to show up until

768
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 3: the twenty second too, if I'm not mistaken, Yeah, but.

769
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: Who does that? Who does that? Like the fact that we've.

770
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 3: A rule a handful a handful.

771
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: You brought out Norris Hopper right he was one.

772
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 4: Norris wasn't good enough to do that, by the way.

773
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 3: I ay Norris would miss those days. Come in Game one,

774
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 3: go two for three with two singles, Like, I can't

775
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 3: do that. I had to show up early because I

776
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: needed as many swings possible because I'm hitting inside in

777
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 3: this cold, cold weather. As you know, Kratzy knows too.

778
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 3: I want to see how far my ball went if

779
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 3: I could still hit it far. You know, that's just

780
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 3: my psyche going crazy. But yeah, I mean, guys did it.

781
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think it has any bearing

782
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 3: or anything to do with, you know, opting out or

783
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 3: looking for a trade or anything like that. In my opinion,

784
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 3: from what I'm hearing, I think he's just understanding. He's

785
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 3: a veteran guy, and you know, he could do what

786
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: he wants until that time comes. He really doesn't have

787
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 3: to show up until the twenty second, and that's everybody's right.

788
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna make I don't think it

789
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 3: should make big noise because rules are the rules. Man,

790
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 3: Why are you showing up to her saying no, Actually,

791
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 3: my job says I don't have to show up until

792
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 3: the twenty second. That's that, okay. I mean you guys

793
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: should move on whether it looks good or not.

794
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 4: Okay. So my question is, as a teammate, if you

795
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 4: have a guy that doesn't that does this, how does it?

796
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 4: How do you feel about it? Feels like ex alienated

797
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 4: In my opinion, I don't know, because I never had

798
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 4: anybody do this. I mean The only guy I ever

799
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 4: remember hearing about doing this was Manny Ramirez and he

800
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 4: was kind of in a contract thing and he's like, oh,

801
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 4: I'll show up March first or whatever it was, whatever

802
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 4: the date was back then, right, But I mean everyone else,

803
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 4: you got sixty five other guys there grinding, and you're like,

804
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 4: I'm not sure. Again, I don't know the situation. What's

805
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,959
Speaker 4: happening with Margus Truman. I'm just saying, as someone looking

806
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 4: from the outside, what does his teammates think? That's what

807
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 4: I want to hear about.

808
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: Mm hm.

809
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: And that's and I know exactly where you're coming from, AJ,

810
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 3: but that's the last thing any team needs. It's like, oh, man, hey,

811
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 3: what about strum what you know? What I mean, that's

812
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 3: the media trying to stir some some crap up. But yeah,

813
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 3: I see it on both sides. I do what I want,

814
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 3: my compadre, my teammate, they're you know, grinding with us,

815
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 3: you know, even before day one, of course, But at

816
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: the same time, you got to respect everybody's decision.

817
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 2: Okay, So let me give you the fan. It's causing

818
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: unnecessary attention and there are multiple ways to put this

819
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: to bed, right Because it's New York. It's the Yankees.

820
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 2: It really would be a story anywhere, but it's really

821
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 2: a story in New York. There is nothing going on

822
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 2: right now. Okay, the Giants suck, the Jets suck. I

823
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: don't know what's going on really in the NBA right now.

824
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: I don't have time for NBA and NHL. But there

825
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: are a lot of fans that go right from football

826
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: to baseball. Spring training just started. There's nothing happening. It's

827
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 2: just people showing up. Luckily for Yanks fans, there's no injuries.

828
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 2: So what is everybody talking about today? Marcus Stroman's not

829
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: at camp and they didn't say it's because of a

830
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: personal issue. That's the big thing. I actually would have

831
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: just said, I'm wondering, like, on the PR side, why

832
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 2: not just lie and be like, hey, he's not here

833
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: for a personal issue. No, because it could be any

834
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: personal issue.

835
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: Don't lie, Yeah, don't throw don't don't throw lies. Because

836
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: as much as it's going to get a lot of city,

837
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: then you're you're always backtracking. You're at some point you're

838
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 1: gonna forget that you lied. Don't lie, don't lie. Okay,

839
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: I think what Boonie did I thought Boonie handed it awesome.

840
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: If Stroman wants to say something, it's Stroman's place to

841
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: say something.

842
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 2: But why why are the reps saying it's not trying

843
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: to protest him pissed off about trade rumors and not

844
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 2: pitching in the playoffs and all that stuff and his

845
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: standing with the team. So my thing Kratz, the famous

846
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 2: Kratz line, say with your chest you're not there. You

847
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: don't have to be there yet didn't tell your reps

848
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,959
Speaker 2: to say hey, or he should say hey. I didn't

849
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 2: love the way that things have shaken out over the

850
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 2: last several months. So I'm taking a stand. The middle ground,

851
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 2: I think is soft.

852
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 3: I just I don't think he has to say anything

853
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 3: because it's it's in the rules in the CBA like,

854
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 3: so he comes, just say he comes on the twenty second.

855
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: Per example, Hey man, where the heck you been working out?

856
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 3: What do you mean? Oh, you weren't here with everybody

857
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: else with the rules. I don't have to show up

858
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 3: to the twenty second. Man, I'm ready for the grind.

859
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 3: You know it's a long season. This is you know

860
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 3: this is a long season. I know how it's done.

861
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 3: I'm a veteran, So I decided this year, I'm gonna

862
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 3: show up on time, knowing how long of a season's

863
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 3: gonna be. Thanks, guys, have a good day, and that's

864
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 3: how that's how it should be squashed like that, in

865
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 3: my opinion.

866
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 2: That's fine. And then the follow up from New York

867
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: Reporter is going to be, so do you think that

868
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: this is take a stand against teams getting players into

869
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 2: camp earlier than they technically need to be by the rules?

870
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: Are you standing up for that? Should we have more

871
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: players in a situation like this, because it's never happening

872
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,720
Speaker 2: in today's game. You're the only one on the Yankees

873
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 2: that showed up late. What did your teammates say to you?

874
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: Do you think that it gets that way?

875
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 3: This is what happened Todd, I know, but he didn't.

876
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 3: He didn't show up like that's the.

877
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 2: Thing later than everyone else.

878
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 3: All Right, Yeah, I get it, And I would say

879
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 3: if that's what he wants to say, I'd say, no,

880
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 3: I just know the rules and I'm happy to be here.

881
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 3: Let's let's go Yankees and try and move on from there.

882
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: You guys are making unnecessary noise about this whole situation.

883
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 3: I don't want to start the season like this. I'm

884
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 3: ready to be Yankee. Now leave me alone.

885
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: Pulled up though I'm a good New York reporter, I'm

886
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: in the clubhouse because they're coming in hot with more, right, sure, Marcus,

887
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: How did you feel about being popped up in trade

888
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 2: rumors throughout the offseason and not pitching in the playoffs?

889
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: How much did that affect you?

890
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 3: Listen, I'm a gamer. I always wanted to be in

891
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 3: the playoffs. I understand the situation of what they wanted

892
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 3: to do. Was I upset? Yeah? Uh, trade rumors is

893
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 3: I've spent a part of my whole career and right

894
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 3: now I'm a Yankee and I want to be a

895
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 3: Yankee and I can't wait for spring training to start.

896
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 3: Have a good day.

897
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 4: Then the next question, then they go to Eric Kratz

898
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 4: and they say, Kratz, what do you think about Stroman

899
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 4: not being here? Aj what do you think about not

900
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 4: being here? Why? Why don't you do this?

901
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 3: Like?

902
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 4: I know why. I was always on time because I

903
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 4: was a catcher and I needed to be there for

904
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 4: to catch my pitcher. Right. That's why Kratz was there early,

905
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 4: because he wanted to get a jump on being there

906
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 4: to cut So why why you know, I understand you

907
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 4: don't have to be there technically, but then why on

908
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 4: earth has almost every other player been there on time?

909
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 4: Because they want to be part of the team and

910
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 4: they want to go to war with their boys, right, Like,

911
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 4: I'm here, We're gonna grind through this. You heard Jack Flaherty, Right,

912
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 4: he threw a bullpen. He was watching everybody throw a

913
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 4: bullpen like that's part of becoming part of a team.

914
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 4: So I get it that he doesn't have to be there,

915
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,439
Speaker 4: but again, it's New York. They're gonna go to you, Todd,

916
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 4: if you're on this team and say, Todd, what do

917
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 4: you think about Stroman not being here? Your answer is

918
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 4: gonna be well, he can do what he wants. How

919
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 4: can everyone else do what they want? Right? That's that's

920
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 4: where this that's where this becomes a story, because if

921
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 4: he just shows up, he he lives in I mean

922
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 4: he used. I don't know if he still does, but

923
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 4: he used to live. He used to always he always

924
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 4: posts the videos of him throwing the Bullpen's on a dock.

925
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 4: Right that doc ain't in New York. I'm sorry where

926
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 4: he's from, Right, it ain't up there in New York.

927
00:42:54,640 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 4: It's in Florida somewhere, right, he exactly right on the

928
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 4: weather today, right. But you know what I'm saying, that's

929
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 4: why it becomes a story is because you know how

930
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 4: many of her people that the Yankees having camp. You know,

931
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 4: I'm seeing videos of road On throwing against Austin Wells

932
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 4: live at Steinbrederfield and throwing against Ben Rice. But I haven't,

933
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 4: you know, Stroman not showing up. That's why it's a story.

934
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 4: If there was more than one person that did this

935
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 4: every year, then people will be like, yeah, that's no

936
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 4: big deal, it happens. But because this is the one

937
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 4: guy and Stroman also, and I hate to say this,

938
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 4: this sucks people in New York though. Try to make

939
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 4: bigger things out of nothing, right, Stroman has had whatever

940
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 4: you want to call it, right, that's it. That's all

941
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 4: I'm saying. They're gonna try and make it in some

942
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 4: desist even if it's not so just come out and

943
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 4: say something, say hey man, sorry, you know, I don't

944
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 4: know if my kid was my dog was sick, I

945
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 4: don't know, whatever it is. And I'll be there on Monday, fine,

946
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 4: boom dead.

947
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 2: That's my point. Yeah, so it's now become the story

948
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: in Yanks camp until he's there, and then for a

949
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 2: couple of days after he's there. There's no way to

950
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: avoid That's that's my point. And maybe that doesn't matter,

951
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 2: and it's a little spicy, it's a little fun, but

952
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: I mean, you guys are the ones in the clubhouse

953
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 2: every single day before and after your workouts. There are

954
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 2: a billion people in the clubhouse, right, and every single

955
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 2: question is that right? Because Todd, you've dealt with this

956
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 2: in New York in the past. Right, I'm picking on

957
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 2: you because you played for the Yanks and the Mets.

958
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: But you know, New York media sometimes is fun and

959
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 2: there's pros because New York players will get more attention.

960
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 2: There's cons There are reporters that will just keep going

961
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: and asking and asking. So you know, now every day

962
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 2: you're shown up to camp for the first week of camp,

963
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 2: majority of the questions in the clubhouse are going to

964
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: be about a teammate who's not there and there's not

965
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 2: really enough reasoning for why he's not there. And it's

966
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 2: going to be on the paper headlines if people even

967
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: read papers like that anymore. It's going to be on

968
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: the website headlines. So would it bother you at all

969
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 2: as a teammate that you have to go in and

970
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: answer questions about this dude who's making a statement but

971
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 2: not fully saying it, so everyone else has to answer

972
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 2: for him right now.

973
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 3: It wouldn't you know, It wouldn't bother me. Would it

974
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 3: bother others? Yeah? Probably, but excuse me they you know,

975
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, it's unheard of. But he has

976
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 3: every right to do what he wants. So yeah, it

977
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 3: probably bother a bunch of people. But for me, I

978
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 3: take it and answer it. If somebody want to answer

979
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 3: the question, it's that, hey, he's here now and he's

980
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 3: ready to go. We can move on hopefully.

981
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: So I think you guys can spend a lot of

982
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 1: time in the minor leagues. But dudes will get optioned down.

983
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: And the rule is when you get optioned, it's seventy

984
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: two hours from the time you get optioned. When you

985
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 1: get optioned down, especially if you're a prospect, they sit

986
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: you down in the office and they're, you know, give

987
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 1: you a whole spiel and then they say they say, hey,

988
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: you know what, though, we want you to get those

989
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: at bees. We want you to get this going again.

990
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: You'll be in the lineup tomorrow right away. Down in

991
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 1: you know, down in Scranton for the Yankees, down in

992
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: Lehigh for the Phillies. And there were some dudes who

993
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: were pissed about getting sent down. They got sent down

994
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: at like three thirty seventy two hours later at three

995
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: twenty nine, they would show up in the clubhouse. Some

996
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: organizations would take that very they would take it very seriously.

997
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: Others would be like, hey, cool, it was your go

998
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: for it.

999
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, we'll see to be continued, We'll see how

1000
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: it goes in camp. I mean, the Yankees want to

1001
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 2: trade him. The problem is he's got two years left

1002
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 2: on a contract, and it's just tough to get teams

1003
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: to take on money it is. I think he's a good,

1004
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: good rotation member. He should be a starter in a

1005
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: rotation and that could be can help a lot of teams.

1006
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 4: You can help a lot of teams.

1007
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 1: Is he better than Paveta No? No, at four million dollars,

1008
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: nobody's better than Paveda.

1009
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 2: Right, But I'm getting them money back for you so

1010
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 2: I can make sure I'm accurate on this one. There's

1011
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 2: so good points two years thirty seven. There was a

1012
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 2: vesting option. So yeah, there's two years. I'm trying to

1013
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: get with the number. Why can't I get the number?

1014
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: But there's two years left. Oh he's making eighteen and

1015
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 2: a half and then he's making eighteen in twenty six,

1016
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: so two years, thirty six and a half million dollars left.

1017
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: It's tough and you're gonna have to This is where

1018
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 2: the trades get difficult. You're gonna have to eat money.

1019
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 2: We didn't get to this part and we should. Maybe

1020
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 2: we can just do it right here because we're waiting

1021
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 2: on Logan O, Hoppy, Noel and Aronado. Tough to trade

1022
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 2: why because you have to start telling another ownership group

1023
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 2: that they need to eat money on a player. And

1024
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 2: that's where the owner ego cheapness stuff gets involved. I'm

1025
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 2: not eating money on that contract. That's what happens on

1026
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 2: those phone calls, right the front office says, hey, if

1027
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 2: we eat half of this, we can do this right now.

1028
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 2: And I like this prospect freaking way. I'm not giving

1029
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: Joe blow owner over there some money back. That's a

1030
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: real thing. AJ we all know that, right.

1031
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 4: Oh, it's a real thing. Of course, it's a real thing.

1032
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 4: That's why what was it The Mets got a better

1033
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 4: prospect when they ate more money of Verlander when they

1034
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 4: are sures or when they send them to Texas. They

1035
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,959
Speaker 4: got Acuna's brother, Like that was what the argument is about,

1036
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 4: Like we're trading him to Texas, but can we what

1037
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 4: kind of prospect can we get? Because all depends on

1038
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 4: how much money you need.

1039
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Mets ate a lot of money in the

1040
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 2: Verlander and Surezer trades. They ended up getting uh Acunya,

1041
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: who's going to be I think a nice part of

1042
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 2: the big league club. They got multiple players in that

1043
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 2: Astros deal that I think could be helpful as well.

1044
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 2: It was Clifford and Gilbert I think were the two

1045
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 2: outfielders that were the ones that are standing out so

1046
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 2: far in that trade. So, anyway, on Aeronato, while we

1047
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 2: have a moment, I mean, at this point, he's a cardinal,

1048
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 2: right Boston was his number one. It sounded like it's

1049
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 2: going to be tricky to try and get him somewhere.

1050
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 2: He's gonna at least be a camp and at this point,

1051
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: aj we've officially ruled out Boston unless the Red Sox

1052
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 2: are suddenly traded for Arnaudo too, So there you go. Nightingale,

1053
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 2: Arnauto crossed off Boston list. Tigers and Cubs were the

1054
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 2: other finalists for Bregman. Blue Jays were never in and

1055
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 2: Bregman wasn't going back to Houston. So for Aronauto purposes,

1056
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: does Chicago still have interest if they're not feeling like

1057
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 2: Matt Shaw's ready? Does Detroit have interest if they don't

1058
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 2: like their mix of third base options?

1059
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 4: I guess? But are they gonna want to pick him

1060
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 4: up at the money? That's it's all going to come

1061
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 4: down in the money, I don't know.

1062
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 3: And will he go there?

1063
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 4: That's the other thing. He has all the power. So

1064
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 4: again they had him traded. He just said no, They

1065
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 4: had him in Houston, he was it was done, remember,

1066
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 4: and then he's like, nope, I don't want to go there.

1067
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 4: So I don't know. We'll see. Hopefully he hopefully enjoys

1068
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 4: Saint Louis because he's probably gonna be there to start

1069
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 4: the year unless something crazy happens.

1070
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 2: Maybe the Angels, where's Moncatta play?

1071
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 3: Come on?

1072
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 2: They paid them a million dollars. Here we are? Uh?

1073
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 2: Did you guys see the quote from Francisco Alvarez? I

1074
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 2: think we are better than the Dodgers lineup.

1075
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 4: M I'm glad you think that everybody believes that. You're

1076
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 4: supposed to believe that. Are you supposed to do? You?

1077
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 2: Guys have a problem with the teammates saying this? Would

1078
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 2: it bother you if a teammate says we're better than

1079
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: this other team? Because, I mean, it fires up fans,

1080
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 2: it's fun.

1081
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 4: No, nobody cares. Probably depends on who it is. There's

1082
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 4: times there's certain people would say, stummy, you're just like, Eh,

1083
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 4: it's it's so and so just being dumb, or it's

1084
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 4: just the way they are and that's good. Listen. I

1085
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 4: got no problem with Francisco over Is saying this. You're

1086
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 4: supposed to believe you're better. The Mets are supposed to

1087
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 4: believe they're better than everybody when you go get a one?

1088
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 4: So do you have lindor you have bring back Alonso?

1089
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 4: Right Alvaz and stay healthy he can hit you twenty

1090
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 4: five Jackson the year. So, I mean, I have no problem.

1091
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 4: I actually kind of like it when I said the

1092
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 4: other day when Britt when sorry, when Aaron Boone said

1093
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 4: about the Dodgers, I want rivalries. Bring it on, like,

1094
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 4: let's talk a little bit of trash.

1095
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 3: Listen, he's got to have a year, bro, this guy.

1096
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 3: I mean he kind of fizzled there at the end. Man,

1097
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken, he had an okay year. He

1098
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 3: needs to he need Cratzy say with your chest. If

1099
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 3: you're gonna say with your chest, you bet you better

1100
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 3: come out banging right away. So you know it's listen.

1101
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 3: I love the confidence. I think that's great. But you know,

1102
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 3: to start it off all of a sudden, okay, I

1103
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 3: mean all right, guns and bays and here we go.

1104
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 3: You know, if boys better back them up because now

1105
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 3: you put a little more pressure on the Mets here again,

1106
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 3: pressure is something the Mets don't need. They don't need

1107
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 3: all that. You know, they have a lot of problems

1108
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 3: going on each year, day in and day out. Been

1109
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 3: a part of it. You know, start off like this,

1110
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 3: they better come out guns and blazing.

1111
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it if you're a leader

1112
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: as the Catcher and his energy when he was on

1113
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: the show last year, just his confidence and energy if

1114
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: it comes from if it comes from Lindor, people will

1115
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: be like, oh, well, you know that's a neat comment.

1116
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: Comes from a guy that's a little bit more fiery.

1117
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: A guy who's back there everybody's looking at I think

1118
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: it means a lot. And I think that every one

1119
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: of the dudes in that clubhouse are not sitting there going.

1120
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 4: Hey, bro, like, relax, relax.

1121
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 1: Oh, let's get behind this. Let's get behind this. Bring

1122
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 1: the Dodgers on. We're gonna take him down.

1123
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 2: I know one thing. If you said the opposite, you

1124
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 2: guys would all be pissed. Imagine if Francisco Avarez is like, yeah,

1125
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 2: we're good, but the Dodgers lineups better, you guys would

1126
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 2: be like, are you kidding me? You don't say that.

1127
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 3: I don't.

1128
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 2: Right here, we're back. There's a John Brevy is signing

1129
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 2: Tigers one year contract, club option for twenty six base

1130
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 2: salary two point two five mili. The option for twenty

1131
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 2: six is worth four million dollars. Obviously, there were some

1132
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,919
Speaker 2: other signings that overshadowed this one. Breva last season five

1133
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 2: eight sixty r and fifty five and a third but

1134
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: with the Braves in September of two seven zero era.

1135
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 2: And it's another picture that front office leader with the

1136
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 2: Tiger Scott Harris, is familiar with from his days with

1137
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 2: the Giants. Tigers keep doing this.

1138
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, big contract, Yeah, yeah, what the Braves had for

1139
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: him in September. He really struggled. But from what I

1140
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: heard about on the dude is like one of the

1141
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 1: funniest dudes ever, driest humor.

1142
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 4: So eh, good fella, good, good funny guy. But where

1143
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 4: did he struggle? Where did he struggle? Where do you

1144
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 4: start the u out?

1145
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 1: Oh I'm not gonna I'm not gonna jump on that train.

1146
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 4: Because Tim Hill, every guy that left pitching wise got better.

1147
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: Right the white socks for everybody who doesn't know, Yeah,

1148
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: the white socks last year.

1149
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 2: Yes, and a lot of their arms went elsewhere and

1150
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: then they were thriving. It's a great point, AJ. So

1151
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 2: does that mean it's a signing that you feel good

1152
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: about because something was going on there, even with veteran

1153
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 2: arms that caused them to struggle.

1154
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 4: Well, I got two things. One, he's gonna have an

1155
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 4: unbelievable beard and two, just help. There's another veteran in

1156
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 4: the back end of the bullpen that he usually throws

1157
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 4: a lot, so he can be the back end guy.

1158
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 4: And he's gonna have an unbelievable beard. We need his

1159
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 4: beard on the show. Let's get this done. He's a Tiger.

1160
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 4: He's a Tiger. Now, let's get.

1161
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 2: This done, as in, we need to get him on

1162
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: the show, or just Beard whichever one of you guys

1163
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 2: can probably get John Breby's number. Otherwise I will text

1164
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: or send him a DM and we'll work on that.

1165
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 2: But now, when we look at the bullpen for the Tigers,

1166
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 2: it's not just young pupps. There's actually quite a few veterans.

1167
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 2: I guess kent to my Aida is going to be

1168
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 2: part of the bullpen. I mean he certainly didn't have

1169
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 2: it to be a starter with them last year. That

1170
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 2: was I think they're big money signing from two years ago.

1171
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 2: But Breba enters the fold, Will Best was great for them.

1172
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 2: Tyler Holton great but brisky great, Jason Foley great, they

1173
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 2: signed Tommy Kinley. It's a pretty good bullpen. Sehn Gunther

1174
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 2: obviously was a factor great late for them. I mean

1175
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 2: that's the group they have right now listed here on Fangrafts.

1176
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: I mean they have, yeah, exactly, they they did work there.

1177
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 2: All right, let's slap. We've got another quote from Aaron Boone.

1178
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,959
Speaker 2: Because I'm telling you this is New York Media. They're

1179
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 2: just not going to stop asking about this on the

1180
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 2: absence quote. Of course I want him here. I'm trying

1181
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 2: to keep nudging him to get here. But again, you

1182
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 2: also have to respect the fact that this is something

1183
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 2: that players are allowed to do. There as a mandatory

1184
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 2: date of February twenty second, and he's choosing that right now. Okay.

1185
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 2: End quote. I'll also add this because I forgot about this,

1186
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 2: and some fans pointed this out in the chat. He

1187
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 2: did unfollow the Yankees in the offseason. Again, silly, petty whatever,

1188
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 2: But I think it was Boonie who spoke and said, oh,

1189
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 2: he just does his like normal scrub through his Instagram

1190
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 2: and like, you know, he's following too many things, so

1191
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 2: he unfollows stuff. So I'm like, so you've unfollowed the Yanks.

1192
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 2: This is what I'm talking about. You put a player

1193
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 2: aging and on Earth. Sorry, you put a manager and

1194
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 2: others in an uncomfortable org. He unfollowed the Yanks.

1195
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 3: Just say it with your chest.

1196
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 2: I unfollowed the Yanks.

1197
00:56:58,400 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 3: I'm pissed off.

1198
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 2: I don't want to be in trade rumors, or maybe

1199
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 2: I do, and I want them to get this done.

1200
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 4: Say something, please, just dance around it. Just say something.

1201
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean I haven't heard him speak yet,

1202
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 4: and now Aaron Boon's skall in the middle of it.

1203
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 4: I mean, this is what we were talking about, especially

1204
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 4: in New York. It's just gonna keep going, keep going,

1205
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 4: keep going.

1206
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 2: I actually think Boonie's being pretty straightforward to her crats.

1207
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 2: He's not covering much for him. He's like, I'm telling

1208
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 2: him to come here, and he's not coming yet.

1209
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: Totally. He's not giving him an excuse. He's just telling

1210
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: his side of it and what he knows. He said

1211
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: it was awkward or it is awkward. It is it's awkward.

1212
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: Good for Boonie. I think Boonie's handled this well. And

1213
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: who knows. How do you know when somebody unfollows? Like,

1214
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: can you tell when somebody unfollows you?

1215
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 2: Me personally, no, but there are people who are talented online.

1216
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 4: No, he took it out of his bio. I think

1217
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 4: I thought he took it out of his bio. Is

1218
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 4: what they said, like, we're you know, like uh oh,

1219
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 4: like he's you know, like your picture for the New

1220
00:57:58,240 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 4: York Yankees. I think that's what he did. I don't

1221
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 4: think he unfollowed him. I think he took it out

1222
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 4: of his bio.

1223
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 2: Either way, there's like an unfollow app or something that

1224
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 2: people use. It's a perfect high school tool to see

1225
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 2: if you know, your favorite friend suddenly unfollowed you and

1226
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 2: they're mad about.

1227
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: Something because you didn't pass on the rock in the

1228
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:16,439
Speaker 1: Big Game last night.

1229
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 2: That's right, unfollowed, my girl, unfollowed, got him