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Speaker 4: It is Wednesday, June eleven, twenty twenty five, Season twenty one,
Speaker 4: episode number fourteen. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.
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Speaker 4: the Star. We are recovering from a late dinner last night,
Speaker 4: or at least three of us are I. Amber didn't go,
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 5: I got you didn't get that invite?
Speaker 6: I sent it to shut It was.
Speaker 7: Great money looking for No we don't violence.
Speaker 2: Run here, fantastic dinner, man, y'all about it? Describe it well.
Speaker 8: First thing is, first I had to get counsel, right,
Speaker 8: I had to call my mother. I said, mother, we're
Speaker 8: having this company dinner thing to celebrate the draft show
Speaker 8: and the you know how we did and all that.
Speaker 8: She said, son, don't go in there and order everything.
Speaker 8: I was like, mom, Jerry Jones writ in The Chick
Speaker 8: she said while going in order everything and everything.
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, cool, and Brian Bronce confirmed
Speaker 2: it again.
Speaker 8: So we we ordered a little bit of everything, but
Speaker 8: very much, thanks very much man, thank you, mister Jones.
Speaker 7: That I love that. For y'all, that's great, that's amazing.
Speaker 2: I'll be hating.
Speaker 7: No, I'm being genuine.
Speaker 6: Almost dinner do we need for some much dinner?
Speaker 7: And Laura at some point.
Speaker 4: Okay for you and Laura will do almost dinner and
Speaker 4: we'll go to no.
Speaker 9: But glad to glad that you had the chance to
Speaker 9: experience the paid for Jerry paid by Jerry mill.
Speaker 2: I feel that that's that. That was that was thank
Speaker 2: you so much er.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I'm glad.
Speaker 5: I didn't get to tell the story about the time
Speaker 5: at the combine where the like I never drank wine before,
Speaker 5: you know, I'm not a big wine drinker, and like
Speaker 5: the gentleman past the table and he said, would like
Speaker 5: some wine? I said no, no, thank you. Chris Hall
Speaker 5: from College Skanglan ever goes she might want to get
Speaker 5: a glass at this one. I said, really, what's up?
Speaker 5: He goes, that's a six thousand dollars bottle of line
Speaker 5: going on the table, and there were two of them
Speaker 5: going around at the same time. I said, well, it's
Speaker 5: great working for this football team right now. But yeah,
Speaker 5: got my six thousand dollars glass of wine.
Speaker 4: Some of the perks, some of the perks, some of
Speaker 4: the perks. All right, we got a lot of things
Speaker 4: we're going to get into today. We're going to spend
Speaker 4: a lot of our time today talking doing a twenty
Speaker 4: twenty five off season rap. I got some interesting questions.
Speaker 4: Hopefully they're interesting questions for you guys to basically paint
Speaker 4: the picture of what the offseason has been before we
Speaker 4: get there, though, I didn't want to have a take
Speaker 4: some time to talk about a couple observations from OTAs
Speaker 4: that have happened here this week. Yesterday, half practice, if
Speaker 4: practice today, they'll have a walk through tomorrow, and then
Speaker 4: the players and coaches will have time to kind of
Speaker 4: get away and breathe a little bit before we had
Speaker 4: the training camp uh in late July. So let's get
Speaker 4: into some of those observations. I think the biggest thing
Speaker 4: coming out of yesterday, and obviously you follow Dallas Cowboys
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Speaker 4: the fan you follow all the different places where you
Speaker 4: can get Cowboys content. Everybody's talking about this chemistry between
Speaker 4: Dak and Pickens. I'm gonna throw out these three different
Speaker 4: observations I have, and what I want you guys to
Speaker 4: do is tell me does it mean nothing or does
Speaker 4: it mean something?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: The chemistry that was being talked about with regards to
Speaker 4: Dak and Pickens, and we saw some of those big
Speaker 4: plays that they were they were able to make. H
Speaker 4: means something or means nothing.
Speaker 2: Chemistry is fine.
Speaker 8: Chemistry kind of newity is cool, but better dudes is awesome,
Speaker 8: you know. And and and we've seen Dak go to
Speaker 8: camp and he'll make some wide receiver that we haven't
Speaker 8: heard of, you know, a camp name. You know these
Speaker 8: these guys, these undrafted guys. Hey, TJ. Vasher caught a
Speaker 8: great pass, a well placed pass from Dak. But it's
Speaker 8: just something about like a real superstar wide receiver then
Speaker 8: another real superstar wide receiver. I think you're going to
Speaker 8: see a lot more of that. So I'm I'm buying
Speaker 8: into it. And it doesn't have to be chemistry. We've
Speaker 8: we've watched Pickens catch terrible passes from terrible quarterbacks career.
Speaker 8: So all Dak has to do is throw good passes
Speaker 8: to George Pickens. Well, that's a lot of chemistry right there,
Speaker 8: Brian brought us, So I'm definitely buying incidentficchempisry.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I tell you what I mean. I thought it
Speaker 5: was going to take a little bit, you know, and
Speaker 5: we were a little bit concerned going in how much
Speaker 5: availability that Dak would practice, and then all of a
Speaker 5: sudden you kind of got the green light from initial
Speaker 5: you know, practices that we were able to attend as
Speaker 5: the media. So that was a positive. I was thinking, oh,
Speaker 5: maybe some side stuff dockyard, you know, trying to catch
Speaker 5: things up, you know, by the time we get to
Speaker 5: it to auctionary, but it already looks like that these
Speaker 5: two have found a way to kind of connect on
Speaker 5: some things. And that's the great thing about George Pickens.
Speaker 5: And we've talked about this a bunch. When you're a
Speaker 5: guy that can contort and be a bad ball catcher,
Speaker 5: put the ball wherever, you know, he's going to make
Speaker 5: a lot of plays. And I think that's the best
Speaker 5: thing in the world for quarterback, not just Dak Prescott,
Speaker 5: mean anybody. You have a guy that is a bad
Speaker 5: ball catcher even when the balls are good, man, that's
Speaker 5: a big plus. I think where you're going to take
Speaker 5: even advantage of George Pickens even more is Dak's accuracy
Speaker 5: hitting him on the move and letting him go, because
Speaker 5: there's a lot of times in George Pickens's career where
Speaker 5: we haven't been able to see him take advantage of
Speaker 5: really what kind of ball carry is once he gets
Speaker 5: the ball in his hands.
Speaker 9: Well, based on history and time of things that we've
Speaker 9: watched during training camp and practices not really carry over
Speaker 9: to game day plays and fans saying well that doesn't
Speaker 9: mean anything, n.
Speaker 7: DA, Well, what else do you want us to talk about?
Speaker 7: That is what is currently happening.
Speaker 9: There's nothing else to talk about on the team than
Speaker 9: what you get to observe during these practices and better
Speaker 9: be positive, So be happy and get excited. Whether it's
Speaker 9: going to translate on the field and the game day
Speaker 9: or not, that is yet to be seen. We gotta wait.
Speaker 9: But at the moment, this is exciting. This is something new,
Speaker 9: and it's definitely something to keep looking forward to as
Speaker 9: we continue to move along.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Brian, you mentioned the accuracy of Dak and some
Speaker 4: of these quicker routes. I saw yesterday. One of the
Speaker 4: plays that really stood out to me. It was kind
Speaker 4: of a whip route for those wh't know what that is,
Speaker 4: kind of a break in and then you kind of
Speaker 4: whip back out to the outside, and it showed Pickens'
Speaker 4: ability to be able to create separation number one, because
Speaker 4: he got like two yards on the defender and then
Speaker 4: catches the ball and he's up the field and headed
Speaker 4: toward the end zone. And that was the kind of
Speaker 4: thing where I'm like, I think the beauty of having
Speaker 4: these two receivers in this offense is going to give
Speaker 4: you that ability that if a team is going to
Speaker 4: say we're going to play man coverage or even in
Speaker 4: a zone situation where these guys are going to have
Speaker 4: the ability to be able to create separation and get
Speaker 4: the ball in their hands. Now it can turn into
Speaker 4: a really big playoff of something that's really a simple route.
Speaker 4: And that's what I think the Cowboys have missed for
Speaker 4: a little bit here. Since the time then they had
Speaker 4: a Mario Cooper, they haven't had two guys that were
Speaker 4: able to do that consistently.
Speaker 5: The challenge is now with this, with these with the
Speaker 5: coordinator and the head coach and the offensive staff, really
Speaker 5: is to find ways to take advantage of that, don't
Speaker 5: you know Ambar's talking about. There's some positivity that you've seen, absolutely,
Speaker 5: and that's great. We saw a little bit of the
Speaker 5: quick game last week. Looked like yesteraid a little bit
Speaker 5: more of the ball going to the outside. You know,
Speaker 5: watch and I always talk about this though, you know,
Speaker 5: trying to extend the offense. You know, we don't the hooks,
Speaker 5: the curls and things like that. Try and to extend
Speaker 5: this offense. And you could do that. Put these guys
Speaker 5: on the move. We've seen CD on the move. We've
Speaker 5: seen George Pickens on the move. These guys make plays.
Speaker 5: So yeah, the thing about is that that ability. The
Speaker 5: challenge now is for Brian Schottenheimer and the staff is
Speaker 5: to make sure that they have a lot of things
Speaker 5: available to Dak and a lot of the ways that
Speaker 5: he can get the ball to these guys. Don't just
Speaker 5: limit this thing. These guys are too good of players
Speaker 5: just to kind of limit them. Make sure that you're
Speaker 5: able to keep that playbook wide open, but take advantage
Speaker 5: of some of the things that are really really good at.
Speaker 4: Let's move to observations number two. Tight in REVN span
Speaker 4: Ford got some looks with the starters that mean something.
Speaker 2: I mean nothing that's odd, isn't it?
Speaker 5: Uh? And then I asked if I asked if Ferguson
Speaker 5: was injured, and I got no, he's just fine. I
Speaker 5: think they're trying to make span Ford more comfortable with
Speaker 5: the offense, and I think if span Ford can get
Speaker 5: his he needs to be. He's a big guy. He's
Speaker 5: not very nimble when it comes to past receiving. You
Speaker 5: look at his hands, hand placement. You know, if he
Speaker 5: could kind of control that and be able to be
Speaker 5: a little bit more secure in the way that he
Speaker 5: places his hands, he's going to have a lot of
Speaker 5: times where guys are on his back. There's not a
Speaker 5: lot of separations, so he's got to find a way
Speaker 5: to be more comfortable. The routes were very limited with
Speaker 5: him last year. More of a blocker, but he has
Speaker 5: the kind of ability though, if he could just work
Speaker 5: on being more secure and confident in his hands, they
Speaker 5: might actually find something here.
Speaker 8: That is fair brown. But then I thought about something
Speaker 8: what if we're really going to get run game stuff
Speaker 8: like we we we've been hearing coaches preaching to us, right, Hey, man,
Speaker 8: we're going to run the football this year. We gonna
Speaker 8: run the football this year. Hell, we'll go out and
Speaker 8: throw it fifty times a game. That's cool. But Brevin
Speaker 8: span Ford is your running BLOCKI guy Schoolmaker is your
Speaker 8: running blocky guy. So if Ferguson is healthy, I don't
Speaker 8: think Ferguson just rode out the.
Speaker 2: Bed bad at ball one day.
Speaker 8: Right, Maybe in my mind this is some kind of
Speaker 8: all right, we're gonna do mostly runs in this drill, right,
Speaker 8: just mostly run fits and things of that nature. And
Speaker 8: if you're a head coach OC and you want to
Speaker 8: use personnel properly, I would imagine that if you're gonna
Speaker 8: run the ball most of the time, Brevin span Ford,
Speaker 8: who's like two seventy, and Jake's a cool running blocker,
Speaker 8: but Brevin span Ford is two seventy. So I don't
Speaker 8: I don't think this is gonna be a thing. This
Speaker 8: is still early camp. If we get the training camp
Speaker 8: and Brevin's out there day one with the ones, that
Speaker 8: we can come back and talk about it on the
Speaker 8: break and try to get some views for it. But
Speaker 8: I think this is more you know, Brevin leaning on people.
Speaker 8: This is you know, working with Terrence Steele leaning on people,
Speaker 8: and those guards and all those guys don't I don't
Speaker 8: think Jake's going anywhere.
Speaker 9: I believe exactly the same thing. I think it's too
Speaker 9: early to take anything else a true indicator of what's
Speaker 9: gonna actually happen. I think once we do get into
Speaker 9: training camp, that's when you're more careful about who's getting
Speaker 9: the most reps with what team, first team, second team,
Speaker 9: and all of that, because then you're really truly starting
Speaker 9: to prepare for the season. At this moment, I think
Speaker 9: it's a good thing to give other guys opportunities and
Speaker 9: let them try things, and let's take a quick look
Speaker 9: before we get into training camp, so that they have
Speaker 9: a better idea into what kind of concept. Who are
Speaker 9: we really trying to focus on once we get there
Speaker 9: in California.
Speaker 8: One thing that greatly bothered me last year is we
Speaker 8: went into this season knowing, Okay, you're gonna need Tyler Guidon,
Speaker 8: you're gonna need Cooper Bebe and just one day and practice.
Speaker 8: Me and Brian just talking about it they're with the
Speaker 8: third team, but they don't over there? What over there?
Speaker 8: And the reasoning was also they can get more reps.
Speaker 8: How about more reps versus the first team guys, because
Speaker 8: when we get to the games, that's who they're going
Speaker 8: to be seeing. So maybe Brevin has a new role
Speaker 8: this year where hey, Brevin, we need you and you're
Speaker 8: probably gonna be blocking first team edge guys. So let's
Speaker 8: not put you against the third team edge guys. Let's
Speaker 8: put you against some real dudes so that you can
Speaker 8: get acclimated so that you can know what blocking with
Speaker 8: Terrence is like as opposed to blocking with how came
Speaker 8: a dyenergy or something like that. So maybe there's just
Speaker 8: more for Brevin there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll even throw this in, I think as an
Speaker 4: addition to that point, I think they if you really
Speaker 4: want to be able to use Brevan sport Breen span
Speaker 4: Ford more on, because you're going to be having more rundowns,
Speaker 4: you probably want to improve his pass catching a little
Speaker 4: bit more comfortable with that because if you're more comfortable
Speaker 4: with that, then you don't have to tip your hand
Speaker 4: and take him off the field planning to throw. You
Speaker 4: can keep him on the field, and he can be
Speaker 4: a kind of a dual threat and someone that can
Speaker 4: really work in I don't think this is about Ferguson.
Speaker 6: I think this is about development.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's exactly right. I mean, I think everybody's made
Speaker 5: really good points about this. The thing that bothers me
Speaker 5: about span Ford is though he just he doesn't look
Speaker 5: comfortable catching the ball. You know, it looks like he
Speaker 5: fights it a little bit. And the more that you
Speaker 5: can get him in comfortable and running round and then
Speaker 5: Dak and the other quarterbacks having the ability to get
Speaker 5: him the ball, and then he could he could show
Speaker 5: k hand placement. Okay, if I'm if I got a
Speaker 5: guy on my back, Okay, I gotta protect and I
Speaker 5: got to extend, you know, you know, And I think
Speaker 5: that's really that's the one thing. If you want span
Speaker 5: fourd to jump this year, make him a better pass catcher,
Speaker 5: that would be a big, big, big thing for him.
Speaker 8: But I will say, you know, this may not be
Speaker 8: about Jake, but what does it say about Luke. You know,
Speaker 8: Luke is a second round pick, and you have expectations
Speaker 8: for round less than Brevin, probably a little more than Jake.
Speaker 4: Though, Yeah, I feel you I feel you on that.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying though, I think Brevin is is such
Speaker 4: a physical specimen and that's also why I think if
Speaker 4: you can get him comfortable and you can as a
Speaker 4: as an offensive play call, if you can be comfortable
Speaker 4: with him catching the ball, he becomes a really legitimate
Speaker 4: option just because of his size. One that is a
Speaker 4: that is a big, big target on top of the
Speaker 4: fact that he is a big man and a hard
Speaker 4: man to take down. So I think if you can
Speaker 4: get him more involved in the passing game, it only
Speaker 4: helps your offense.
Speaker 5: Well, let the apologies for Schoonmaker speak now, if you
Speaker 5: don't mind. I think I'm looking right at the camera Roucher,
Speaker 5: you know, and I'm saying it with mas so yeah,
Speaker 5: to me, this is you know, I think with Scoonmaker,
Speaker 5: I think they know what they have in Schoonmaker. I
Speaker 5: think Scoomaker Schoonmaker showed he can actually catch the football.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: There were times when when Jake Ferguson was out and
Speaker 5: we're like, oh, geez, here we go. You know, yeah,
Speaker 5: the same stuff needs to be a little bit better,
Speaker 5: But there were some routes where he was able to
Speaker 5: make some catches you and make some you know, and
Speaker 5: receptions and they're like, Okay, well maybe this guy's not
Speaker 5: a bust. I know, everybody was kind of tagging him
Speaker 5: that type of a guy, but he he showed some
Speaker 5: things playing. I kind of feel like that this the
Speaker 5: the plan going in was how can we push span
Speaker 5: Ford to get in the level of maybe the other two.
Speaker 5: That's why I think this one's really really all about.
Speaker 4: All right, let's get to our final observation here. Michael
Speaker 4: Parsons was here. He is here in the building, but
Speaker 4: he is not practicing. Means something or means nothing.
Speaker 2: He's around. He's a superstar.
Speaker 8: You know, if you a superstar and you have seniority,
Speaker 8: you can do some things that the other guys can't do.
Speaker 8: That's ball has been that way for years, even when
Speaker 8: I was around. You know, if I'm a freshman, I
Speaker 8: can't do things that the superstar singis can.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 8: So at least he's around, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8: At least he's talking to coaches, he's talking to his teammates.
Speaker 8: He may not be practicing because of money and all that,
Speaker 8: but being around is better than not being around or
Speaker 8: in cobo with something so good.
Speaker 9: I mean, yeah, absolutely, definitely good that he's around and
Speaker 9: some of the comments that were made yesterday despite him
Speaker 9: not practicing, it was said that he was talking to
Speaker 9: younger guys and giving them advice and being that voice
Speaker 9: of a leadership that Jerry Jones has mentioned before that
Speaker 9: they're looking for in a guy like him to voice
Speaker 9: his knowledge and his opinion and help these younger players.
Speaker 9: So that's something positive. At the same time, I still
Speaker 9: want to see out there. We've seen it happen with
Speaker 9: Ceedee Lamb when they were working that contract and it
Speaker 9: took him a while, and then we saw it in
Speaker 9: games and he took a few games. I'm not saying
Speaker 9: we're there yet, but still that's something to keep an eye.
Speaker 9: You want your player and not that he cannot be ready.
Speaker 9: But in that case, let's say for some reason now
Speaker 9: he's holding out. Even though he said that he's not
Speaker 9: gonna hold out, he's gonna show up a training camp
Speaker 9: and he's expected to show up and practice. We still
Speaker 9: don't know because we're not there yet. If that doesn't
Speaker 9: go that way and he is holding out, what is that?
Speaker 7: What does that look like when games?
Speaker 9: You know, we head into the season, We've seen it
Speaker 9: before where it takes a few games to get your
Speaker 9: body back into that shape, that pro level shape. So
Speaker 9: I don't know, it's just I'm kind of getting over it,
Speaker 9: this whole situation.
Speaker 5: The age's onto something here. I'm gonna say it's a
Speaker 5: bad thing for sure. I'm saying it's a bad thing
Speaker 5: because to me, I feel like this is a two
Speaker 5: way street. You know, you know, you need to find
Speaker 5: way to get David Mulagetta to the table, and the
Speaker 5: Joneses need to find a way to get to David Mullagetta.
Speaker 5: This is a two way street here, you know, if
Speaker 5: there needs to be a sense of urgency here, you know,
Speaker 5: with with you know, and and you know, my understanding
Speaker 5: is that the Cowboys have made some calls, you know,
Speaker 5: and you know Mullageta. You know, has there been discussion
Speaker 5: here of a lake. No, there hasn't. Where there's some
Speaker 5: early indications of some calls. Absolutely there were some. So
Speaker 5: something needs to be done. This doesn't need to get
Speaker 5: to training camp like we were with Zeke and Zach
Speaker 5: Martin and CD Lamb. You know, this thing needs to
Speaker 5: be done, and it really is both sides, it really is.
Speaker 5: I think that's what Jerry Jones was maybe conveying to
Speaker 5: him yesterday when they had the opportunity to stand out
Speaker 5: there on the field and talk. He's like, listen, you know,
Speaker 5: I think the Cowboys do want to negotiate. I think they.
Speaker 5: I think David Mulagedta I think that you know, he
Speaker 5: understands where he is at. But these two sides do
Speaker 5: need to come together. They do need to talk. They
Speaker 5: need to get this done before training camp. This does
Speaker 5: not need to be in something. If I, and this
Speaker 5: is just me, the form personnel guy, if I had
Speaker 5: an understanding that I was gonna maybe look at a
Speaker 5: potential holdout, I'm going to sign von Miller right now
Speaker 5: is what I'm gonna go do. I'm gonna go out
Speaker 5: there and I'm going to and I'm going to make
Speaker 5: this something. I'm going to protect myself and I'm going
Speaker 5: to say, listen, I've got to find a way if
Speaker 5: if this turns into prolonged holdout. And I'm just saying if,
Speaker 5: but if it turns into that, I've got to make
Speaker 5: up for sixteen sacks. So not just all about von Miller,
Speaker 5: but about piecing it together where you have guys get
Speaker 5: sixteen sacks and make up for that. But you got
Speaker 5: to protect yourself here. If you're the Dallas Cowboys, I
Speaker 5: think they're probably thinking about, you know, something like that.
Speaker 5: But I think that the main thing to do here
Speaker 5: would be both sides get to get to the table
Speaker 5: and figure this thing out before we get to ok
Speaker 5: start all.
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Speaker 6: We're gonna play a little better, worse, same. All right.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put out a position. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 4: the players at the Cowboys lost. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 4: the players that the Cowboys gained. You tell me if
Speaker 4: they're better, worse, or the same. Let's start with the
Speaker 4: linebacker who I knew you're gonna do this. They lost
Speaker 4: Eric Kendricks and Nick Vigil. They gained Kenneth Murray and
Speaker 4: Jack Sanborn better, worse.
Speaker 6: Same, I'll say it, sure, go for it.
Speaker 2: Better.
Speaker 5: They got better. They absolutely got it. Now we'll see
Speaker 5: what happens. I do like the Sanborn signing a lot
Speaker 5: when you watch him play with the Bears. I think
Speaker 5: there's things. There's times when when you watch linebackers and
Speaker 5: they undercut, say blocks, and they're thinking, like they undercut
Speaker 5: that block, They're not going to get back and make
Speaker 5: that play. Sky is ability, It's it's it's uncanny how
Speaker 5: he's able to kind of dip underneath and get back
Speaker 5: on place. I think he's got a really good understanding
Speaker 5: of where the ball is. I think he's a smart guy.
Speaker 5: I think he could play him coverage. I think he
Speaker 5: plays well at the point of attack. You know, Eric
Speaker 5: Kendricks was that kind of guy. Eric kind of got
Speaker 5: worred down as the season war on. I mean a lot.
Speaker 5: You know, he's a double digit tackle. Good for him,
Speaker 5: But I think they got better. I think I think
Speaker 5: people look at look at the if you if you're
Speaker 5: a believer in metrics and stuff like at Pro Football Focus,
Speaker 5: the Tennessee linebackers were rated as the worst. Some of
Speaker 5: the worst linebackers in the league last year. Is that
Speaker 5: them or is that the scheme? I've seen Murray played
Speaker 5: a much higher level. I think that maybe some things
Speaker 5: with Tennessee didn't really translate to the strengths of what
Speaker 5: Murray can do. I think he's going to give you
Speaker 5: that that better player that we saw with with the
Speaker 5: with the Chargers, I'm I'm I'm bullish on both of
Speaker 5: these signings. I think they're going to be better.
Speaker 8: There are so many factors here because we're all just
Speaker 8: waiting on, waiting on Demo. Man, when Demo's on the field,
Speaker 8: the linebacker room looks totally different. I would love to
Speaker 8: know what happens when he gets healthy, what happens to
Speaker 8: the guys that are on the field at that point.
Speaker 8: But we'll had that conversation in November, December or something
Speaker 8: like that. But you have a linebacker whisperer now, And
Speaker 8: to Bryan's point, you know, Kennied Murray's a guy that
Speaker 8: had a lot of natural talent, and you know his
Speaker 8: downs are like kind of down, you go, damn, boy,
Speaker 8: that's that's down, but his ups are super up. So
Speaker 8: if you have a linebacker whisperer now, then I guess
Speaker 8: you would just look for making those ups consistently up.
Speaker 8: So I have a lot of faith in what Kenny
Speaker 8: Murray can do. I really like Kendricks last year, but
Speaker 8: it's gonna depend on Demo when he comes back and
Speaker 8: how healthy he's gonna be. I want to know what
Speaker 8: happens to Luisfoule. You know, louisfoul had to play a
Speaker 8: little bit last year. How much is he gonna get better?
Speaker 8: But sam Born this year is probably what Kendricks was
Speaker 8: last year, right like, Hey, we got a new DC,
Speaker 8: I know everything, let me do this, let me do this.
Speaker 5: So yeah, this guy was sion a little bit super
Speaker 5: productive for Eberflyiss. That gives that right there in itself
Speaker 5: gives me some hope.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah better.
Speaker 9: I'd say they have the potential to be better right now.
Speaker 9: To me, they're about the same again overshown that's a
Speaker 9: huge factor right there. But I do see Leo Fao,
Speaker 9: a guy like him taking the next step. He showed
Speaker 9: so much that was good last year when he was
Speaker 9: thrown in there. I believe he's gonna get even better
Speaker 9: this year. So overall, right now, I feel they're around
Speaker 9: the same. But I do see a lot more potential
Speaker 9: to be better.
Speaker 2: Some old dudes, some young dudes, same thing.
Speaker 4: All right, let's talk about the running back position. Rico Dados,
Speaker 4: who they lost, they gained, Gavonte Williams, Miles Sanders, Jayden
Speaker 4: Blue better worse, saying I.
Speaker 8: Don't want to say nothing bad about Zeke on the radio,
Speaker 8: man he not here no more. But boy, I was
Speaker 8: just befuddled at not only running back, but how we
Speaker 8: use running back. I say week because I'm a Cowboy fan,
Speaker 8: how they use running back. I think ric O'Dowda was
Speaker 8: clearly the better guy. He was the bestest running back
Speaker 8: that we had on the roster. There will be sometimes
Speaker 8: it seemed like the Cowboys we try to force other players.
Speaker 8: Rigo got sick one game in San France, and and boy,
Speaker 8: he was just found on the sidelines. Just find the
Speaker 8: next I wonder, I want to know what happened there.
Speaker 8: I would love to just ask questions what happened there. So,
Speaker 8: even if the talent last year was better, mismanagement made
Speaker 8: your running back situation terrible. Scheme made your running back
Speaker 8: situation terrible. I'm watching Zeke. Shouts out of Zeke. Zeke
Speaker 8: is good at some things. But while we're running cracked
Speaker 8: tosses with Zeke, that's not his game, right, So so
Speaker 8: even play calling here means something. I think with your
Speaker 8: new coaches, I think running back automatically gets two ticks better.
Speaker 8: You finally got a juice guy two ticks better. You
Speaker 8: got some got some old characters. But by way of
Speaker 8: how running back is, you never know who your best
Speaker 8: running back is going to be until they're on the
Speaker 8: field running better than everybody else. So I think you
Speaker 8: have to say that the running back situation is better
Speaker 8: talent wise, I don't know, but the running back situation
Speaker 8: for sure is much better than it was last year,
Speaker 8: assuming Seinenheimen is not running cracked tosses with Phil moff
Speaker 8: And and Williams or something like that.
Speaker 2: But I don't know. We'll see.
Speaker 9: I think they didn't end up getting that crazy explosive
Speaker 9: running back that you were hoping to be like the guy.
Speaker 9: But I'm one hundred percent in agreement with everything that
Speaker 9: you said, and I think I don't like it that
Speaker 9: much though, but I have to say what I have to.
Speaker 5: I'd be worried.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but.
Speaker 9: No, the thing is, I think it comes down more tours,
Speaker 9: Like what's happening with the coaching, that's where the improvement
Speaker 9: really is, and what's happening with the O line. I
Speaker 9: do believe it's going to improve in that area. The
Speaker 9: play calling along with that, they're gonna be able. My
Speaker 9: expectation is they're going to be able to call better
Speaker 9: plays and position players in the best way possible, like
Speaker 9: really cater to what they're best at and not just
Speaker 9: doing random things and hoping for the best.
Speaker 5: Boy, I don't I swing so violently about this position
Speaker 5: because I want them to prove me wrong. I really
Speaker 5: really do. I have a lot of questions about the
Speaker 5: running backs, but in the media portions of practice, everybody's
Speaker 5: told me about you know, oh, it looks like that
Speaker 5: Miles sand has got some jews. So look at this run.
Speaker 5: Look at this. I know what Blue is. I'm excited
Speaker 5: about Blue. I really really am excited about that one.
Speaker 5: The other ones I have a question mark about, you know,
Speaker 5: those are the you know the others. I kind of
Speaker 5: know what Williams is. I think he catches a ball. Well,
Speaker 5: he's a pass blocker. Can they put this together to
Speaker 5: make get a back that, you know, when they need it?
Speaker 5: They have a guy that can handle that job. But man,
Speaker 5: I go from like, oh, the things are gonna be
Speaker 5: fine too, Boy, they're gonna have to really switch this
Speaker 5: thing up. I do not have a great answer for
Speaker 5: this one, because I feel like though I'm kind of
Speaker 5: teetering towards please prove me wrong. I'm not on board
Speaker 5: with what's going on right now, but please prove me wrong.
Speaker 5: I will happy to say that I was wrong about
Speaker 5: a position, but I violently swing on this one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, in my opinion, I think the interesting thing here
Speaker 4: is that last year, I think a lot of the
Speaker 4: issues and the successes when they had them in the
Speaker 4: run game were more about the offensive line than the
Speaker 4: running back particularly, And I think right now I look
Speaker 4: at this group and I think they have another different
Speaker 4: skill sets with these running backs to where they can
Speaker 4: piece them together to get a good running game if
Speaker 4: the offensive line plays their part. And I do expect
Speaker 4: the offensive line is gonna be a little bit better,
Speaker 4: And if that happens, I think the running game will
Speaker 4: be a little bit better because they will have guys
Speaker 4: that can do more than what they had. They could
Speaker 4: get out of those two that twosome from last year.
Speaker 4: All Right, real quick before we go to break. This's
Speaker 4: when I think I put in here just because I
Speaker 4: think we have to say it. I think I know
Speaker 4: what everybody's answer is going to be, though. But wide
Speaker 4: receiver you lose Brandon Cooks, you gain George Pickens better, worse, same.
Speaker 2: George Piggins is a dude. Wide receivers better better.
Speaker 5: And if you'd asked the question about the offensive line,
Speaker 5: I think we'd had an argument.
Speaker 4: Well, we're gonna do a whole show about the offensive line, Okay,
Speaker 4: when we get the training camp.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, great, games are better.
Speaker 4: All right, let's go ahead and go to our first
Speaker 4: final break. When we come back, we'll talk about the
Speaker 4: defensive end position. I do think there's some interesting conversation
Speaker 4: to be had there. And a guy that Brian actually
Speaker 4: liked a lot last year, Carl Lawson that's no longer
Speaker 4: on this team, still sitting out there in free agency.
Speaker 4: I heard you mentioned another name May He's a guy
Speaker 4: they ought to be looking at if they happen to
Speaker 4: need a pass rusher.
Speaker 6: We'll talk about that when we come back.
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Speaker 4: the s WBC Wuggage studios at the Star We're doing better, worse?
Speaker 5: Same?
Speaker 4: Let's talk defensive end Cowboys lost to Marcus Lawrence, Chauncey Golston,
Speaker 4: Karl Lawson and they have added Dante followed your Peyton
Speaker 4: Turner and Donovan as a roku. Are they better, worse
Speaker 4: or the same.
Speaker 8: We're gonna have to see what Kneeland brings to the
Speaker 8: party here, like you know, we we know that he's
Speaker 8: an upside pass rushy guy, but he's really a rundown guy,
Speaker 8: and you know the end is rundowns and pass rushing.
Speaker 8: I got a question about pass rushing when we've done here.
Speaker 8: But you know last year were you know, Chauncey Gohoston
Speaker 8: was a guy that was that was being championed here, right,
Speaker 8: And Chauncey played well, But you want Chauncey to play
Speaker 8: well as like your fourth edge guy. You don't want
Speaker 8: Chauncey to be like your first edge guy. You know,
Speaker 8: we talked about Carl Last and Carl Lawson play cool,
Speaker 8: but you want him to be like later on down
Speaker 8: the line, right, You really want superstar type stuff, you
Speaker 8: know type guys. Dante Fowler was here, and even when
Speaker 8: he was playing here and there, we're like, hey, Dante
Speaker 8: Fowler is the better pass rush here. Why isn't Dante
Speaker 8: Fowler playing? And then he goes to Washington with Dan Quinn.
Speaker 8: I'm curious how that works out, and he gets all
Speaker 8: the reps there and he's a double digit SAT guy.
Speaker 8: So I can only imagine that when Dante gets here
Speaker 8: he'll be you as a double digit SAT guy. Donovan
Speaker 8: Azeraku's fun.
Speaker 2: Sure. I would say that edge kind of gets a
Speaker 2: little bit better. We'll see got better.
Speaker 5: I think, you know, and and and watch and I
Speaker 5: do our work on the draft show. We we talked
Speaker 5: about with Azeraku and what you know, there were there
Speaker 5: were a lot of not just media scouts, there were
Speaker 5: a lot of guys that I talked to around the
Speaker 5: league that the scouts that were like, really really high
Speaker 5: on this player. Dallas feels like they stole one here.
Speaker 5: If you visit with people in there in the organization
Speaker 5: and you know, with the coaches and stuff, they'll tell
Speaker 5: you they stole one. And as Araka, We'll see how
Speaker 5: it all plays out for him. But he is the
Speaker 5: one guy that you know, when we were watching tape
Speaker 5: and watch and I were doing the college stuff him,
Speaker 5: Mike Green from Marshall ended up at Baltimore. You know,
Speaker 5: these these were guy bendy, get underneath blockers, cause problems,
Speaker 5: that kind of guy. I mean, it's a lot different
Speaker 5: having to coach those guys. The guy's already got the talent.
Speaker 5: You just got to make sure you put him in
Speaker 5: position to make those kinds of plays. I do think
Speaker 5: they got better though, but they've got But I'll tell
Speaker 5: you what though, they they've got to get this my
Speaker 5: cam Parsons sing Den and like we talked about earlier,
Speaker 5: really the sooner the better.
Speaker 9: Well counting with Micah Parsons, someone that let's say, did through,
Speaker 9: go through the training camp and we're set to go.
Speaker 7: For the start of the season. I like how this
Speaker 7: group looks.
Speaker 9: I think they are better and when you start looking
Speaker 9: at also the combination with the defensive tackles and what's
Speaker 9: happening there, that's something exciting to look at. I expect
Speaker 9: this year to even be a lot better for Osa
Speaker 9: based on what he did last year. I would imagine
Speaker 9: it continues, and even I don't think he's reached the ceiling.
Speaker 7: I don't think he's reached his max.
Speaker 9: Also looking forward to what Solomon Thomas brings to the
Speaker 9: table when you see him, I don't know, we'll see
Speaker 9: is it all muscles.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 9: We'll see what he does when we get to a
Speaker 9: game day. But when you see that power in the
Speaker 9: forest being combined with all these different guys, I'm excited
Speaker 9: to actually see it all come together and see how
Speaker 9: much pressure they can get this year.
Speaker 6: Let's go something.
Speaker 2: I got a question about your edges. There, go for it.
Speaker 2: Question for the table.
Speaker 8: In twenty twenty two or so, I believe the Cowboys
Speaker 8: ended like number two in sacks, like like that year
Speaker 8: and that was like young Micah. You know d Law
Speaker 8: who's not really a pass rush phenomenal rundown guy, right,
Speaker 8: but not really a pass rush guy. Darrence Armstrong, you
Speaker 8: can say what you feel about him as a pass rusher.
Speaker 8: Dante who wasn't getting a bunch of reps as a
Speaker 8: pass rush, but that team still ended up second and sacks.
Speaker 8: Sam Williams, Young Sam Williams, you got an older Michael Parsons, right,
Speaker 8: Donovan as a rock who's a rookie, but you know
Speaker 8: he's a sack guy. He'll be mostly used as a
Speaker 8: sack guy. Double digit sack. Dante Fowler. You don't know
Speaker 8: what you have with Marshawn Niland just yet. And Sam
Speaker 8: with a chip on the shoulder, try and get a
Speaker 8: new contract. Do you think that the pass rush maybe
Speaker 8: not run down because d Law's not here right past rushing?
Speaker 2: Can we get sacks?
Speaker 8: Do you think that this pass rush group is better
Speaker 8: than twenty twenty two's pass rush group that was second
Speaker 8: in the league in sax.
Speaker 4: Here's my question. Sure, My question would be, is the
Speaker 4: scheme going to be dictating that they're going to be
Speaker 4: rushing the passer as effectively as they did back then,
Speaker 4: because if you remember, a lot of that was about
Speaker 4: the fact that when Quinn came in here, he got
Speaker 4: that defense into a situation where they were really good
Speaker 4: going to.
Speaker 2: Get the quarterback.
Speaker 4: And I don't know if it was just the talent talent.
Speaker 4: I think it was a talent, and I think it
Speaker 4: was Yeah, I think it was the leads. I think
Speaker 4: it was also how they played football now that also
Speaker 4: exposed them at times in the run game because they
Speaker 4: were so aggressive when it came to going and get
Speaker 4: going to get the quarterback. So I don't know if
Speaker 4: Aberflus is going to run that same kind of scheme
Speaker 4: to where he's going to be like, hey, we're going
Speaker 4: to sell out to go get the quarterback sometimes and
Speaker 4: that way the production ends up being the same. I
Speaker 4: will say, man for man, if you're looking at talent
Speaker 4: for talent, I would say this group is every bit
Speaker 4: as talented from a pass rush standpoint as that group.
Speaker 4: I think the scheme will be the difference.
Speaker 5: I think this. I like what Derek saying with the scheme.
Speaker 5: I'll disagree on something though. I think that Iberflus. You
Speaker 5: know what I heard from the coach and we had
Speaker 5: a chance to visit with them on you know, when
Speaker 5: we're working on the draft was the one thing I
Speaker 5: know on the offensive side of the ball, they were
Speaker 5: talking about the ability to adapt to the players you have.
Speaker 5: I don't think you could be stupid and say, okay, hey,
Speaker 5: I'm a defensive coordinator and I'm not going to use
Speaker 5: all these talented players as a pass rushers. And I
Speaker 5: think you have to figure out ways to do this,
Speaker 5: you know. I don't think you just sit there and say, wow,
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna do it. I Am going to draw
Speaker 5: it up and here we go. That kind of thing.
Speaker 5: I think if you've got players Fowler, Williams, you know, Parsons,
Speaker 5: you know as a rocket, you've got guys that can
Speaker 5: rush the passer, don't be don't be foolish and just say, okay,
Speaker 5: we're going to settle into a shell. It just when
Speaker 5: we can rush and just you know, play that way.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 5: The one thing that the last couple of coordinators have
Speaker 5: figured out here is if how aggressive you are with
Speaker 5: this with these rushers, you can have some success. I
Speaker 5: don't think Ibra Flus is foolish enough not to try that.
Speaker 9: I think they'll be they they have based on purely
Speaker 9: talent and what we expect. They can be that team again.
Speaker 9: They can be those guys again. I don't feel like
Speaker 9: I'm lacking anything at the moment. It's just you gotta
Speaker 9: wait and see to actually see it in effect and happening.
Speaker 9: But right now I feel good about the bodies being
Speaker 9: capable of doing and getting to the quarterback just as
Speaker 9: much as they did in that year you got so much.
Speaker 4: Let's move on to cornerback. Let's talk about the cornerback position.
Speaker 4: They lost Jordan Lewis, they gained Rebel and zier Elam
Speaker 4: they better or worse?
Speaker 6: Are the same?
Speaker 2: Everybody hurt?
Speaker 8: Man, I don't know, you know, we we have corners
Speaker 8: in his room and the knees hurt. So I mean,
Speaker 8: I mean when they when they come back, Hey, when
Speaker 8: when Diggs and Josh and you know those guys come back.
Speaker 8: I think Rebel is going to be a good player
Speaker 8: when day. You know he's a rookie, you know, and
Speaker 8: he's coming off that knee. And if you take a
Speaker 8: look at what Kayln Carson said as a reokular, hey man,
Speaker 8: the game's fast, you know, maybe you can maybe you
Speaker 8: can think that Kayln Carson takes the next lead, you know,
Speaker 8: just as being a year or two guy. I've seen
Speaker 8: this before, I've done this one time. Maybe I'll be
Speaker 8: a little better and revels the guy that has to sit,
Speaker 8: chill and make sure he will.
Speaker 2: Be he really is.
Speaker 8: But I think as far as this cornerbad group, you
Speaker 8: got bland and that's kind of all you got right now.
Speaker 5: I could see this group being much like what we
Speaker 5: saw last year with the defensive line. I could see
Speaker 5: them just rolling a bunch of guys in and they
Speaker 5: rolled guys through last year too. They made some trades
Speaker 5: and tried some guys and guys them. Last year, guys
Speaker 5: got banged up and stuff like that. I think everybody
Speaker 5: knows healthy. Yeah, this team has probably gotten better, but
Speaker 5: right now there's so many questions. I do love Reville,
Speaker 5: I do. I absolutely he was my best corner in
Speaker 5: the draft. When you watched him play at East Carolina.
Speaker 5: You can watch him out here, how he looks the
Speaker 5: link and all that, you know, and how competitive he is,
Speaker 5: you know, get that guy going, get you know Bland
Speaker 5: going again, a healthy you know, training camp for Bland,
Speaker 5: that all these things would be I think a positive here.
Speaker 5: But I have a feeling you're going to see them
Speaker 5: roll through some corners and training camp and try and
Speaker 5: find some guys until they get things uh situated, like
Speaker 5: they need it.
Speaker 8: How good does Kyer have to be for us to
Speaker 8: go all right? We don't need we don't need corners anymore?
Speaker 8: Kyrie elm like, how how good does he have to?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 8: Does he have to be just serviceable? Can he be
Speaker 8: like like, does he have to be really good for us?
Speaker 8: And I think about bringing in let's just let's just
Speaker 8: say Gilmore or something right like where.
Speaker 5: I still think gil is probably coming in. I still
Speaker 5: think Gilmore's probably coming in. I think I think we're
Speaker 5: gonna get into training camping. They're gonna call Gilmore, you know.
Speaker 5: I mean there's some names out there right now. I
Speaker 5: don't think the Alexander one again. I hope I'm not
Speaker 5: speaking out of turn here. He said, yeah, but if
Speaker 5: he's if he's a factor at least which I think
Speaker 5: they have, but I don't think they would go that route.
Speaker 5: You know, we've talked about a guy on another team
Speaker 5: because he's potentially have to do a trade there. You know,
Speaker 5: that's kind of where people are focusing. But I think
Speaker 5: that the thing with like with with Gilmore is a
Speaker 5: possibility there because I think they're gonna need a They're
Speaker 5: looking for a veteran guy that can kind of give
Speaker 5: him a little bit of stability. They're gonna see what
Speaker 5: they have with some of these guys and it's probably
Speaker 5: gonna be like, Okay, we need to go get a
Speaker 5: veteran to kind of sure some things up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of like the idea of Gilmour just
Speaker 4: because I think what you need right now is a
Speaker 4: band aid for the beginning of the season, if until
Speaker 4: they can really get a chance to evaluate Trayvon with
Speaker 4: him working out here and I don't know if they
Speaker 4: really know where how soon they're they're. That being said,
Speaker 4: I think if you get somebody like Gilmour, and what
Speaker 4: we saw from Gilmore the last year he was here,
Speaker 4: I think he started off the season pretty good. As
Speaker 4: the season war on, it seems like he got or
Speaker 4: down because it's just his play did seem to drop
Speaker 4: a little bit as the season went on. So if
Speaker 4: you tell me I can get someone with his talent
Speaker 4: level and his ability, knowing that he's an older guy,
Speaker 4: he can maybe give me that first half of the
Speaker 4: season where he can give me everything he's got and
Speaker 4: and then by then, hopefully you got trayvon In, you
Speaker 4: got revel In, and you back at full health hopefully,
Speaker 4: and then if his play, you know, he may or
Speaker 4: may not be on the field at that point because
Speaker 4: those guys may take that spot. But the point is
Speaker 4: he gives you that band aid for the early part
Speaker 4: of the seasons. I love a pick like him, I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: a sign like him, uh, for the early part of
Speaker 4: the year, just because you just have so many question
Speaker 4: marks regarding health at the cornerback position.
Speaker 9: And that's the thing with trentvon I just I still
Speaker 9: don't know how I feel about it. Even if him
Speaker 9: coming back healthy quote unquote fully healthy, what does that
Speaker 9: exactly look like at this point? I just I don't
Speaker 9: know what if it's depends what you compare.
Speaker 5: No, No, And you're right, and that was unfair on
Speaker 5: my part, Like, but I was just sitting there thinking,
Speaker 5: like you know, if you if you put him into
Speaker 5: his situation, like I say, we know with Booth and
Speaker 5: what you got with that, we have an idea of pride.
Speaker 5: You know, the guys that that were kind of Carson.
Speaker 5: You know, if Carson, I would feel so much better
Speaker 5: about the situation going into year two for Carson if
Speaker 5: I'd seen some some progress in year one. But you know,
Speaker 5: there's there's there's unknown about him for sure. I mean
Speaker 5: they they you know, they like Josh Butler played really
Speaker 5: well for him a little bit, you know. I mean
Speaker 5: there's guys that they've had that that have played well.
Speaker 5: But it's you know, Digs. You know, you Digs.
Speaker 2: You need digs back.
Speaker 5: Yeah, really do need digs back.
Speaker 4: And let me say this, I think I think Diggs
Speaker 4: gets a I think he gets a little bit of
Speaker 4: a bum rap when people talk about, you know, he
Speaker 4: ain't that good or whatever. At the end of the day,
Speaker 4: he might give up some plays. Cornerbacks do that.
Speaker 6: By the way.
Speaker 4: He's not a shut down corner He's not one of
Speaker 4: the best one, two, three cornerbacks in the league. But
Speaker 4: he is more than quality at the cornerback position. Like
Speaker 4: he is a good cornerback he gives them some plays. Okay, great,
Speaker 4: you name they're probably in this league right now. Are
Speaker 4: there any real shut down cornerbacks? There's some good cornerbacks
Speaker 4: and the probably some that are better. I just don't
Speaker 4: I think he gets a bum rap and it's almost like.
Speaker 6: It's all or none.
Speaker 4: He's either great or he's not, and he's and if
Speaker 4: he's not, then he's not worth having.
Speaker 6: I just don't think.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think people are on him because they know
Speaker 5: we focus on compensation, but we also focus on lack
Speaker 5: of availability. And I think that that's a fair criticisms.
Speaker 5: That's the biggest problem. It's like, okay, compensation does not
Speaker 5: match availability. So now we're kind of, you know, we're
Speaker 5: and they were thinking about, well, we're trying to rub
Speaker 5: two Nichols together to go sign guys, you know, and
Speaker 5: that's a little bit of a problem.
Speaker 9: And that's where I struggled with right now, is with him.
Speaker 9: You know, he has the talent.
Speaker 7: We've seen it. He's a great football player, but.
Speaker 9: My memory currently is so faint of like, what do
Speaker 9: I remember of him doing on the field right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's always going to be real easy.
Speaker 9: But and then in the last year, you know, because
Speaker 9: of the injury and all that, I just I hope
Speaker 9: that he really is committed to this whole recovery rehab
Speaker 9: thing that he's putting in the time and the work
Speaker 9: to do that properly, and that he can come back
Speaker 9: in really good shape for the start of the season.
Speaker 4: We've had such a little time to see him and
Speaker 4: Bland on the field together. Yeah, think about the scope
Speaker 4: of their careers together. But when we've seen them on
Speaker 4: the field together, they've been really good. And I just think,
Speaker 4: can we get to a point where both are healthy,
Speaker 4: healthy and we can keep both of them on the
Speaker 4: field and then give me a little bit of revel
Speaker 4: with it, Like I would love to see that threesome
Speaker 4: on the field for a majority of the season, And
Speaker 4: I think if you can see that, I think everybody
Speaker 4: will feel really good about the cornerback position. Now that's
Speaker 4: a big leap because you haven't seen it very much
Speaker 4: and right now two of those three are hurt.
Speaker 6: So it's just I think.
Speaker 4: That's the part where the biggest question mark is really
Speaker 4: about their health. Can you get this group healthy and
Speaker 4: if you can, I think you'll feel really good about him.
Speaker 8: One more thing, Diggs may not be top three, but
Speaker 8: whenever you played the Vikings, Justin Jefferson really didn't do
Speaker 8: that much to you. When you played the Bengals, j
Speaker 8: mar Chase didn't do that much to you. The Washington
Speaker 8: Football Wizards twice a year. Terarry McLaurin hates to see Treva.
Speaker 6: A Washington Football Wizards.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to respect this new goofy name.
Speaker 6: That's hilarious.
Speaker 5: I like it.
Speaker 2: And then they can't be Cooper rush Man. Come on, no,
Speaker 2: I'm not washing this.
Speaker 8: But you know Diggs what he may not be a
Speaker 8: shut down guy, but those top tier wide receivers, he
Speaker 8: has great days versus those guys. I think that's bad.
Speaker 8: I would much rather and you could do a quick
Speaker 8: round table. I would much rather Digs here healthy than
Speaker 8: to try to get some pick for him.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, like play out, like playing
Speaker 2: be here.
Speaker 6: I just wanted to be healthy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly right. All right, we're gonna take our
Speaker 4: I mean we're talking not just our final break break,
Speaker 4: a real break. We're gonna be out until training camp,
Speaker 4: until training camp begins, we'll get back start at once.
Speaker 4: We are out in Oxnard, California. So we'll open up
Speaker 4: that show. I still have a lot of questions from
Speaker 4: the twenty twenty five offseason wrap. We'll get to that
Speaker 4: as we open a training camp in Oxnard, but until then,
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Speaker 6: I'm Derek eagleson.
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