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Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. Are you ready for a break?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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Speaker 1: We were on right with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought us,

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Speaker 1: Votch Lombardi and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 4: It is Wednesday, June eleven, twenty twenty five, Season twenty one,

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Speaker 4: episode number fourteen. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.

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Speaker 4: We are a lot in s WBC Mortgage Studios at

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Speaker 4: the Star. We are recovering from a late dinner last night,

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Speaker 4: or at least three of us are I. Amber didn't go,

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Speaker 4: I did.

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Speaker 5: I got you didn't get that invite?

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Speaker 6: I sent it to shut It was.

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Speaker 7: Great money looking for No we don't violence.

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Speaker 2: Run here, fantastic dinner, man, y'all about it? Describe it well.

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Speaker 8: First thing is, first I had to get counsel, right,

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Speaker 8: I had to call my mother. I said, mother, we're

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Speaker 8: having this company dinner thing to celebrate the draft show

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Speaker 8: and the you know how we did and all that.

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Speaker 8: She said, son, don't go in there and order everything.

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Speaker 8: I was like, mom, Jerry Jones writ in The Chick

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Speaker 8: she said while going in order everything and everything.

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Speaker 2: I was like, all right, cool, and Brian Bronce confirmed

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Speaker 2: it again.

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Speaker 8: So we we ordered a little bit of everything, but

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Speaker 8: very much, thanks very much man, thank you, mister Jones.

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Speaker 7: That I love that. For y'all, that's great, that's amazing.

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Speaker 2: I'll be hating.

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Speaker 7: No, I'm being genuine.

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Speaker 6: Almost dinner do we need for some much dinner?

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Speaker 7: And Laura at some point.

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Speaker 4: Okay for you and Laura will do almost dinner and

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Speaker 4: we'll go to no.

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Speaker 9: But glad to glad that you had the chance to

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Speaker 9: experience the paid for Jerry paid by Jerry mill.

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Speaker 2: I feel that that's that. That was that was thank

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Speaker 2: you so much er.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so I'm glad.

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Speaker 5: I didn't get to tell the story about the time

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Speaker 5: at the combine where the like I never drank wine before,

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Speaker 5: you know, I'm not a big wine drinker, and like

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Speaker 5: the gentleman past the table and he said, would like

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Speaker 5: some wine? I said no, no, thank you. Chris Hall

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Speaker 5: from College Skanglan ever goes she might want to get

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Speaker 5: a glass at this one. I said, really, what's up?

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Speaker 5: He goes, that's a six thousand dollars bottle of line

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Speaker 5: going on the table, and there were two of them

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Speaker 5: going around at the same time. I said, well, it's

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Speaker 5: great working for this football team right now. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: got my six thousand dollars glass of wine.

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Speaker 4: Some of the perks, some of the perks, some of

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Speaker 4: the perks. All right, we got a lot of things

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Speaker 4: we're going to get into today. We're going to spend

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Speaker 4: a lot of our time today talking doing a twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty five off season rap. I got some interesting questions.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully they're interesting questions for you guys to basically paint

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Speaker 4: the picture of what the offseason has been before we

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Speaker 4: get there, though, I didn't want to have a take

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Speaker 4: some time to talk about a couple observations from OTAs

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Speaker 4: that have happened here this week. Yesterday, half practice, if

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Speaker 4: practice today, they'll have a walk through tomorrow, and then

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Speaker 4: the players and coaches will have time to kind of

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Speaker 4: get away and breathe a little bit before we had

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Speaker 4: the training camp uh in late July. So let's get

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Speaker 4: coming out of yesterday, and obviously you follow Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 4: dot Com, you follow one on five out three of

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Speaker 4: the fan you follow all the different places where you

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Speaker 4: can get Cowboys content. Everybody's talking about this chemistry between

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Speaker 4: Dak and Pickens. I'm gonna throw out these three different

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Speaker 4: do is tell me does it mean nothing or does

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Speaker 4: it mean something?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 4: The chemistry that was being talked about with regards to

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Speaker 2: Chemistry is fine.

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Speaker 8: Chemistry kind of newity is cool, but better dudes is awesome,

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Speaker 8: you know. And and and we've seen Dak go to

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Speaker 8: these guys, these undrafted guys. Hey, TJ. Vasher caught a

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Speaker 8: we've watched Pickens catch terrible passes from terrible quarterbacks career.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I tell you what I mean. I thought it

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Speaker 5: And we've talked about this a bunch. When you're a

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Speaker 5: there's a lot of times in George Pickens's career where

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Speaker 9: Well, based on history and time of things that we've

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Speaker 7: That is what is currently happening.

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Speaker 9: There's nothing else to talk about on the team than

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Brian, you mentioned the accuracy of Dak and some

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Speaker 4: And that's what I think the Cowboys have missed for

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Speaker 5: The challenge is now with this, with these with the

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Speaker 5: you know Ambar's talking about. There's some positivity that you've seen, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: I mean nothing that's odd, isn't it?

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Speaker 5: to be more comfortable. The routes were very limited with

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Speaker 8: That is fair brown. But then I thought about something

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Speaker 8: what if we're really going to get run game stuff

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Speaker 8: like we we we've been hearing coaches preaching to us, right, Hey, man,

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Speaker 8: run the football this year. Hell, we'll go out and

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Speaker 8: throw it fifty times a game. That's cool. But Brevin

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Speaker 2: Bed bad at ball one day.

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Speaker 8: Right, Maybe in my mind this is some kind of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's exactly right. I mean, I think everybody's made

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Speaker 8: But I will say, you know, this may not be

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Speaker 4: Though, Yeah, I feel you I feel you on that.

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Speaker 5: Well, let the apologies for Schoonmaker speak now, if you

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Speaker 8: So at least he's around, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 9: So that's something positive. At the same time, I still

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Speaker 7: Let's do some that's right, I was gonna talk some crape.

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Speaker 7: Where are those TVs that you promise for the fans?

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Speaker 2: You know, talking credits?

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Speaker 4: We are working on it.

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Speaker 2: Can give me. By the way, you're the one who

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Speaker 2: we got air.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we got a whole season.

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Speaker 6: Just let's let me work.

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Speaker 9: Let me about that.

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Speaker 3: Let me work.

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Speaker 2: Can I have one of these when y'all get the.

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Speaker 6: They're not for in here for fans.

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Speaker 4: We're trying to work out some TV for fans.

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Speaker 5: Watch and are doing some work. We might need to

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Speaker 5: talk to our people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, evy oh, shout at the EBO. Huh the ebo

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Speaker 2: LG evil.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you guys, you can get a TV.

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Speaker 6: Flash the smile, so you can get a TV with me.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna play a little better, worse, same. All right.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna put out a position. I'm gonna tell you

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Speaker 4: the players at the Cowboys lost. I'm gonna tell you

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Speaker 4: the players that the Cowboys gained. You tell me if

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Speaker 4: they're better, worse, or the same. Let's start with the

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Speaker 4: linebacker who I knew you're gonna do this. They lost

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Speaker 4: Eric Kendricks and Nick Vigil. They gained Kenneth Murray and

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Speaker 4: Jack Sanborn better, worse.

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Speaker 6: Same, I'll say it, sure, go for it.

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Speaker 2: Better.

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Speaker 5: They got better. They absolutely got it. Now we'll see

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Speaker 5: what happens. I do like the Sanborn signing a lot

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Speaker 5: when you watch him play with the Bears. I think

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Speaker 5: there's things. There's times when when you watch linebackers and

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Speaker 5: they undercut, say blocks, and they're thinking, like they undercut

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Speaker 5: that block, They're not going to get back and make

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Speaker 5: that play. Sky is ability, It's it's it's uncanny how

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Speaker 5: he's able to kind of dip underneath and get back

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Speaker 5: on place. I think he's got a really good understanding

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Speaker 5: of where the ball is. I think he's a smart guy.

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Speaker 5: I think he could play him coverage. I think he

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Speaker 5: plays well at the point of attack. You know, Eric

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Speaker 5: Kendricks was that kind of guy. Eric kind of got

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Speaker 5: worred down as the season war on. I mean a lot.

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Speaker 5: You know, he's a double digit tackle. Good for him,

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Speaker 5: But I think they got better. I think I think

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Speaker 5: people look at look at the if you if you're

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Speaker 5: a believer in metrics and stuff like at Pro Football Focus,

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Speaker 5: the Tennessee linebackers were rated as the worst. Some of

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Speaker 5: the worst linebackers in the league last year. Is that

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Speaker 5: them or is that the scheme? I've seen Murray played

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Speaker 5: a much higher level. I think that maybe some things

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Speaker 5: with Tennessee didn't really translate to the strengths of what

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Speaker 5: Murray can do. I think he's going to give you

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Speaker 5: that that better player that we saw with with the

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Speaker 5: with the Chargers, I'm I'm I'm bullish on both of

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Speaker 5: these signings. I think they're going to be better.

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Speaker 8: There are so many factors here because we're all just

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Speaker 8: waiting on, waiting on Demo. Man, when Demo's on the field,

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Speaker 8: the linebacker room looks totally different. I would love to

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Speaker 8: know what happens when he gets healthy, what happens to

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Speaker 8: the guys that are on the field at that point.

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Speaker 8: But we'll had that conversation in November, December or something

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Speaker 8: like that. But you have a linebacker whisperer now, And

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Speaker 8: to Bryan's point, you know, Kennied Murray's a guy that

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Speaker 8: had a lot of natural talent, and you know his

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Speaker 8: downs are like kind of down, you go, damn, boy,

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Speaker 8: that's that's down, but his ups are super up. So

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Speaker 8: if you have a linebacker whisperer now, then I guess

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Speaker 8: you would just look for making those ups consistently up.

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Speaker 8: So I have a lot of faith in what Kenny

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Speaker 8: Murray can do. I really like Kendricks last year, but

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Speaker 8: it's gonna depend on Demo when he comes back and

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Speaker 8: how healthy he's gonna be. I want to know what

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Speaker 8: happens to Luisfoule. You know, louisfoul had to play a

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Speaker 8: little bit last year. How much is he gonna get better?

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Speaker 8: But sam Born this year is probably what Kendricks was

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Speaker 8: last year, right like, Hey, we got a new DC,

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Speaker 8: I know everything, let me do this, let me do this.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, this guy was sion a little bit super

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Speaker 5: productive for Eberflyiss. That gives that right there in itself

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Speaker 5: gives me some hope.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah better.

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Speaker 9: I'd say they have the potential to be better right now.

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Speaker 9: To me, they're about the same again overshown that's a

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Speaker 9: huge factor right there. But I do see Leo Fao,

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Speaker 9: a guy like him taking the next step. He showed

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Speaker 9: so much that was good last year when he was

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Speaker 9: thrown in there. I believe he's gonna get even better

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Speaker 9: this year. So overall, right now, I feel they're around

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Speaker 9: the same. But I do see a lot more potential

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Speaker 9: to be better.

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Speaker 2: Some old dudes, some young dudes, same thing.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's talk about the running back position. Rico Dados,

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Speaker 4: who they lost, they gained, Gavonte Williams, Miles Sanders, Jayden

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Speaker 4: Blue better worse, saying I.

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Speaker 8: Don't want to say nothing bad about Zeke on the radio,

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Speaker 8: man he not here no more. But boy, I was

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Speaker 8: just befuddled at not only running back, but how we

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Speaker 8: use running back. I say week because I'm a Cowboy fan,

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Speaker 8: how they use running back. I think ric O'Dowda was

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Speaker 8: clearly the better guy. He was the bestest running back

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Speaker 8: that we had on the roster. There will be sometimes

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Speaker 8: it seemed like the Cowboys we try to force other players.

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Speaker 8: Rigo got sick one game in San France, and and boy,

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Speaker 8: he was just found on the sidelines. Just find the

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Speaker 8: next I wonder, I want to know what happened there.

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Speaker 8: I would love to just ask questions what happened there. So,

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Speaker 8: even if the talent last year was better, mismanagement made

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Speaker 8: your running back situation terrible. Scheme made your running back

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Speaker 8: situation terrible. I'm watching Zeke. Shouts out of Zeke. Zeke

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Speaker 8: is good at some things. But while we're running cracked

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Speaker 8: tosses with Zeke, that's not his game, right, So so

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Speaker 8: even play calling here means something. I think with your

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Speaker 8: new coaches, I think running back automatically gets two ticks better.

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Speaker 8: You finally got a juice guy two ticks better. You

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Speaker 8: got some got some old characters. But by way of

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Speaker 8: how running back is, you never know who your best

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Speaker 8: running back is going to be until they're on the

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Speaker 8: field running better than everybody else. So I think you

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Speaker 8: have to say that the running back situation is better

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Speaker 8: talent wise, I don't know, but the running back situation

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Speaker 8: for sure is much better than it was last year,

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Speaker 8: assuming Seinenheimen is not running cracked tosses with Phil moff

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Speaker 8: And and Williams or something like that.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know. We'll see.

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Speaker 9: I think they didn't end up getting that crazy explosive

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Speaker 9: running back that you were hoping to be like the guy.

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Speaker 9: But I'm one hundred percent in agreement with everything that

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Speaker 9: you said, and I think I don't like it that

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Speaker 9: much though, but I have to say what I have to.

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Speaker 5: I'd be worried.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but.

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Speaker 9: No, the thing is, I think it comes down more tours,

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Speaker 9: Like what's happening with the coaching, that's where the improvement

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Speaker 9: really is, and what's happening with the O line. I

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Speaker 9: do believe it's going to improve in that area. The

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Speaker 9: play calling along with that, they're gonna be able. My

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Speaker 9: expectation is they're going to be able to call better

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Speaker 9: plays and position players in the best way possible, like

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Speaker 9: really cater to what they're best at and not just

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Speaker 9: doing random things and hoping for the best.

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Speaker 5: Boy, I don't I swing so violently about this position

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Speaker 5: because I want them to prove me wrong. I really

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Speaker 5: really do. I have a lot of questions about the

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Speaker 5: running backs, but in the media portions of practice, everybody's

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Speaker 5: told me about you know, oh, it looks like that

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Speaker 5: Miles sand has got some jews. So look at this run.

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Speaker 5: Look at this. I know what Blue is. I'm excited

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Speaker 5: about Blue. I really really am excited about that one.

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Speaker 5: The other ones I have a question mark about, you know,

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Speaker 5: those are the you know the others. I kind of

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Speaker 5: know what Williams is. I think he catches a ball. Well,

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Speaker 5: he's a pass blocker. Can they put this together to

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Speaker 5: make get a back that, you know, when they need it?

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Speaker 5: They have a guy that can handle that job. But man,

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Speaker 5: I go from like, oh, the things are gonna be

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Speaker 5: fine too, Boy, they're gonna have to really switch this

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Speaker 5: thing up. I do not have a great answer for

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Speaker 5: this one, because I feel like though I'm kind of

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Speaker 5: teetering towards please prove me wrong. I'm not on board

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Speaker 5: with what's going on right now, but please prove me wrong.

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Speaker 5: I will happy to say that I was wrong about

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Speaker 5: a position, but I violently swing on this one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in my opinion, I think the interesting thing here

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Speaker 4: is that last year, I think a lot of the

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Speaker 4: issues and the successes when they had them in the

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Speaker 4: run game were more about the offensive line than the

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Speaker 4: running back particularly, And I think right now I look

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Speaker 4: at this group and I think they have another different

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Speaker 4: skill sets with these running backs to where they can

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Speaker 4: piece them together to get a good running game if

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Speaker 4: the offensive line plays their part. And I do expect

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Speaker 4: the offensive line is gonna be a little bit better,

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Speaker 4: And if that happens, I think the running game will

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Speaker 4: be a little bit better because they will have guys

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Speaker 4: that can do more than what they had. They could

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Speaker 4: get out of those two that twosome from last year.

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Speaker 4: All Right, real quick before we go to break. This's

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Speaker 4: when I think I put in here just because I

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Speaker 4: think we have to say it. I think I know

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Speaker 4: what everybody's answer is going to be, though. But wide

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Speaker 4: receiver you lose Brandon Cooks, you gain George Pickens better, worse, same.

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Speaker 2: George Piggins is a dude. Wide receivers better better.

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Speaker 5: And if you'd asked the question about the offensive line,

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Speaker 5: I think we'd had an argument.

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Speaker 4: Well, we're gonna do a whole show about the offensive line, Okay,

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Speaker 4: when we get the training camp.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, great, games are better.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's go ahead and go to our first

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Speaker 4: final break. When we come back, we'll talk about the

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Speaker 4: defensive end position. I do think there's some interesting conversation

658
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Speaker 4: to be had there. And a guy that Brian actually

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Speaker 4: liked a lot last year, Carl Lawson that's no longer

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Speaker 4: on this team, still sitting out there in free agency.

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Speaker 4: I heard you mentioned another name May He's a guy

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Speaker 4: they ought to be looking at if they happen to

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Speaker 4: need a pass rusher.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back his final segment of the break Laugh in

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Speaker 4: the s WBC Wuggage studios at the Star We're doing better, worse?

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Speaker 5: Same?

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Speaker 4: Let's talk defensive end Cowboys lost to Marcus Lawrence, Chauncey Golston,

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Speaker 4: Karl Lawson and they have added Dante followed your Peyton

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Speaker 4: Turner and Donovan as a roku. Are they better, worse

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Speaker 4: or the same.

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Speaker 8: We're gonna have to see what Kneeland brings to the

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Speaker 8: party here, like you know, we we know that he's

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Speaker 8: an upside pass rushy guy, but he's really a rundown guy,

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Speaker 8: and you know the end is rundowns and pass rushing.

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Speaker 8: I got a question about pass rushing when we've done here.

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Speaker 8: But you know last year were you know, Chauncey Gohoston

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Speaker 8: was a guy that was that was being championed here, right,

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Speaker 8: And Chauncey played well, But you want Chauncey to play

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Speaker 8: well as like your fourth edge guy. You don't want

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Speaker 8: Chauncey to be like your first edge guy. You know,

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Speaker 8: we talked about Carl Last and Carl Lawson play cool,

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Speaker 8: but you want him to be like later on down

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Speaker 8: the line, right, You really want superstar type stuff, you

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Speaker 8: know type guys. Dante Fowler was here, and even when

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Speaker 8: he was playing here and there, we're like, hey, Dante

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Speaker 8: Fowler is the better pass rush here. Why isn't Dante

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Speaker 8: Fowler playing? And then he goes to Washington with Dan Quinn.

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Speaker 8: I'm curious how that works out, and he gets all

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Speaker 8: the reps there and he's a double digit SAT guy.

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Speaker 8: So I can only imagine that when Dante gets here

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Speaker 8: he'll be you as a double digit SAT guy. Donovan

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Speaker 8: Azeraku's fun.

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Speaker 2: Sure. I would say that edge kind of gets a

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Speaker 2: little bit better. We'll see got better.

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Speaker 5: I think, you know, and and and watch and I

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Speaker 5: do our work on the draft show. We we talked

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Speaker 5: about with Azeraku and what you know, there were there

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Speaker 5: were a lot of not just media scouts, there were

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Speaker 5: a lot of guys that I talked to around the

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Speaker 5: league that the scouts that were like, really really high

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Speaker 5: on this player. Dallas feels like they stole one here.

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Speaker 5: If you visit with people in there in the organization

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Speaker 5: and you know, with the coaches and stuff, they'll tell

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Speaker 5: you they stole one. And as Araka, We'll see how

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Speaker 5: it all plays out for him. But he is the

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Speaker 5: one guy that you know, when we were watching tape

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Speaker 5: and watch and I were doing the college stuff him,

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Speaker 5: Mike Green from Marshall ended up at Baltimore. You know,

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Speaker 5: these these were guy bendy, get underneath blockers, cause problems,

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Speaker 5: that kind of guy. I mean, it's a lot different

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Speaker 5: having to coach those guys. The guy's already got the talent.

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Speaker 5: You just got to make sure you put him in

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Speaker 5: position to make those kinds of plays. I do think

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Speaker 5: they got better though, but they've got But I'll tell

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Speaker 5: you what though, they they've got to get this my

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Speaker 5: cam Parsons sing Den and like we talked about earlier,

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Speaker 5: really the sooner the better.

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Speaker 9: Well counting with Micah Parsons, someone that let's say, did through,

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Speaker 9: go through the training camp and we're set to go.

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Speaker 7: For the start of the season. I like how this

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Speaker 7: group looks.

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Speaker 9: I think they are better and when you start looking

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Speaker 9: at also the combination with the defensive tackles and what's

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Speaker 9: happening there, that's something exciting to look at. I expect

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Speaker 9: this year to even be a lot better for Osa

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Speaker 9: based on what he did last year. I would imagine

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Speaker 9: it continues, and even I don't think he's reached the ceiling.

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Speaker 7: I don't think he's reached his max.

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Speaker 9: Also looking forward to what Solomon Thomas brings to the

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Speaker 9: table when you see him, I don't know, we'll see

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Speaker 9: is it all muscles.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 9: We'll see what he does when we get to a

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Speaker 9: game day. But when you see that power in the

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Speaker 9: forest being combined with all these different guys, I'm excited

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Speaker 9: to actually see it all come together and see how

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Speaker 9: much pressure they can get this year.

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Speaker 6: Let's go something.

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Speaker 2: I got a question about your edges. There, go for it.

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Speaker 2: Question for the table.

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Speaker 8: In twenty twenty two or so, I believe the Cowboys

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Speaker 8: ended like number two in sacks, like like that year

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Speaker 8: and that was like young Micah. You know d Law

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Speaker 8: who's not really a pass rush phenomenal rundown guy, right,

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Speaker 8: but not really a pass rush guy. Darrence Armstrong, you

806
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Speaker 8: can say what you feel about him as a pass rusher.

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Speaker 8: Dante who wasn't getting a bunch of reps as a

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Speaker 8: pass rush, but that team still ended up second and sacks.

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Speaker 8: Sam Williams, Young Sam Williams, you got an older Michael Parsons, right,

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Speaker 8: Donovan as a rock who's a rookie, but you know

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Speaker 8: he's a sack guy. He'll be mostly used as a

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Speaker 8: sack guy. Double digit sack. Dante Fowler. You don't know

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Speaker 8: what you have with Marshawn Niland just yet. And Sam

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Speaker 8: with a chip on the shoulder, try and get a

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Speaker 8: new contract. Do you think that the pass rush maybe

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Speaker 8: not run down because d Law's not here right past rushing?

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Speaker 2: Can we get sacks?

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Speaker 8: Do you think that this pass rush group is better

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Speaker 8: than twenty twenty two's pass rush group that was second

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Speaker 8: in the league in sax.

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Speaker 4: Here's my question. Sure, My question would be, is the

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Speaker 4: scheme going to be dictating that they're going to be

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Speaker 4: rushing the passer as effectively as they did back then,

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Speaker 4: because if you remember, a lot of that was about

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Speaker 4: the fact that when Quinn came in here, he got

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Speaker 4: that defense into a situation where they were really good

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Speaker 4: going to.

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Speaker 2: Get the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know if it was just the talent talent.

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Speaker 4: I think it was a talent, and I think it

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Speaker 4: was Yeah, I think it was the leads. I think

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Speaker 4: it was also how they played football now that also

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Speaker 4: exposed them at times in the run game because they

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Speaker 4: were so aggressive when it came to going and get

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Speaker 4: going to get the quarterback. So I don't know if

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Speaker 4: Aberflus is going to run that same kind of scheme

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Speaker 4: to where he's going to be like, hey, we're going

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Speaker 4: to sell out to go get the quarterback sometimes and

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Speaker 4: that way the production ends up being the same. I

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Speaker 4: will say, man for man, if you're looking at talent

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Speaker 4: for talent, I would say this group is every bit

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Speaker 4: as talented from a pass rush standpoint as that group.

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Speaker 4: I think the scheme will be the difference.

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Speaker 5: I think this. I like what Derek saying with the scheme.

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Speaker 5: I'll disagree on something though. I think that Iberflus. You

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Speaker 5: know what I heard from the coach and we had

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Speaker 5: a chance to visit with them on you know, when

848
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Speaker 5: we're working on the draft was the one thing I

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Speaker 5: know on the offensive side of the ball, they were

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Speaker 5: talking about the ability to adapt to the players you have.

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Speaker 5: I don't think you could be stupid and say, okay, hey,

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Speaker 5: I'm a defensive coordinator and I'm not going to use

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Speaker 5: all these talented players as a pass rushers. And I

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Speaker 5: think you have to figure out ways to do this,

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Speaker 5: you know. I don't think you just sit there and say, wow,

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Speaker 5: I'm just gonna do it. I Am going to draw

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Speaker 5: it up and here we go. That kind of thing.

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Speaker 5: I think if you've got players Fowler, Williams, you know, Parsons,

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Speaker 5: you know as a rocket, you've got guys that can

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Speaker 5: rush the passer, don't be don't be foolish and just say, okay,

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Speaker 5: we're going to settle into a shell. It just when

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Speaker 5: we can rush and just you know, play that way.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 5: The one thing that the last couple of coordinators have

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Speaker 5: figured out here is if how aggressive you are with

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Speaker 5: this with these rushers, you can have some success. I

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Speaker 5: don't think Ibra Flus is foolish enough not to try that.

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Speaker 9: I think they'll be they they have based on purely

869
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 9: talent and what we expect. They can be that team again.

870
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 9: They can be those guys again. I don't feel like

871
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 9: I'm lacking anything at the moment. It's just you gotta

872
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 9: wait and see to actually see it in effect and happening.

873
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 9: But right now I feel good about the bodies being

874
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 9: capable of doing and getting to the quarterback just as

875
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 9: much as they did in that year you got so much.

876
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 4: Let's move on to cornerback. Let's talk about the cornerback position.

877
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 4: They lost Jordan Lewis, they gained Rebel and zier Elam

878
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 4: they better or worse?

879
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 6: Are the same?

880
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: Everybody hurt?

881
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 8: Man, I don't know, you know, we we have corners

882
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 8: in his room and the knees hurt. So I mean,

883
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 8: I mean when they when they come back, Hey, when

884
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 8: when Diggs and Josh and you know those guys come back.

885
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 8: I think Rebel is going to be a good player

886
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 8: when day. You know he's a rookie, you know, and

887
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 8: he's coming off that knee. And if you take a

888
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 8: look at what Kayln Carson said as a reokular, hey man,

889
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 8: the game's fast, you know, maybe you can maybe you

890
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 8: can think that Kayln Carson takes the next lead, you know,

891
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 8: just as being a year or two guy. I've seen

892
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 8: this before, I've done this one time. Maybe I'll be

893
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 8: a little better and revels the guy that has to sit,

894
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 8: chill and make sure he will.

895
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 2: Be he really is.

896
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 8: But I think as far as this cornerbad group, you

897
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 8: got bland and that's kind of all you got right now.

898
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 5: I could see this group being much like what we

899
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 5: saw last year with the defensive line. I could see

900
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 5: them just rolling a bunch of guys in and they

901
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 5: rolled guys through last year too. They made some trades

902
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 5: and tried some guys and guys them. Last year, guys

903
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 5: got banged up and stuff like that. I think everybody

904
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 5: knows healthy. Yeah, this team has probably gotten better, but

905
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 5: right now there's so many questions. I do love Reville,

906
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 5: I do. I absolutely he was my best corner in

907
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 5: the draft. When you watched him play at East Carolina.

908
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 5: You can watch him out here, how he looks the

909
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 5: link and all that, you know, and how competitive he is,

910
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 5: you know, get that guy going, get you know Bland

911
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 5: going again, a healthy you know, training camp for Bland,

912
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 5: that all these things would be I think a positive here.

913
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 5: But I have a feeling you're going to see them

914
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 5: roll through some corners and training camp and try and

915
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 5: find some guys until they get things uh situated, like

916
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 5: they need it.

917
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 8: How good does Kyer have to be for us to

918
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 8: go all right? We don't need we don't need corners anymore?

919
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 8: Kyrie elm like, how how good does he have to?

920
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 5: Like?

921
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 8: Does he have to be just serviceable? Can he be

922
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 8: like like, does he have to be really good for us?

923
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 8: And I think about bringing in let's just let's just

924
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 8: say Gilmore or something right like where.

925
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 5: I still think gil is probably coming in. I still

926
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 5: think Gilmore's probably coming in. I think I think we're

927
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 5: gonna get into training camping. They're gonna call Gilmore, you know.

928
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 5: I mean there's some names out there right now. I

929
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 5: don't think the Alexander one again. I hope I'm not

930
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 5: speaking out of turn here. He said, yeah, but if

931
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 5: he's if he's a factor at least which I think

932
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 5: they have, but I don't think they would go that route.

933
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 5: You know, we've talked about a guy on another team

934
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 5: because he's potentially have to do a trade there. You know,

935
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 5: that's kind of where people are focusing. But I think

936
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 5: that the thing with like with with Gilmore is a

937
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 5: possibility there because I think they're gonna need a They're

938
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 5: looking for a veteran guy that can kind of give

939
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 5: him a little bit of stability. They're gonna see what

940
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 5: they have with some of these guys and it's probably

941
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 5: gonna be like, Okay, we need to go get a

942
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 5: veteran to kind of sure some things up.

943
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of like the idea of Gilmour just

944
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 4: because I think what you need right now is a

945
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 4: band aid for the beginning of the season, if until

946
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 4: they can really get a chance to evaluate Trayvon with

947
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 4: him working out here and I don't know if they

948
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 4: really know where how soon they're they're. That being said,

949
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 4: I think if you get somebody like Gilmour, and what

950
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 4: we saw from Gilmore the last year he was here,

951
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 4: I think he started off the season pretty good. As

952
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 4: the season war on, it seems like he got or

953
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 4: down because it's just his play did seem to drop

954
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 4: a little bit as the season went on. So if

955
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 4: you tell me I can get someone with his talent

956
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 4: level and his ability, knowing that he's an older guy,

957
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 4: he can maybe give me that first half of the

958
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 4: season where he can give me everything he's got and

959
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 4: and then by then, hopefully you got trayvon In, you

960
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 4: got revel In, and you back at full health hopefully,

961
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 4: and then if his play, you know, he may or

962
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 4: may not be on the field at that point because

963
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 4: those guys may take that spot. But the point is

964
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 4: he gives you that band aid for the early part

965
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 4: of the seasons. I love a pick like him, I'm sorry,

966
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 4: a sign like him, uh, for the early part of

967
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 4: the year, just because you just have so many question

968
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 4: marks regarding health at the cornerback position.

969
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 9: And that's the thing with trentvon I just I still

970
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 9: don't know how I feel about it. Even if him

971
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 9: coming back healthy quote unquote fully healthy, what does that

972
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 9: exactly look like at this point? I just I don't

973
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 9: know what if it's depends what you compare.

974
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 5: No, No, And you're right, and that was unfair on

975
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 5: my part, Like, but I was just sitting there thinking,

976
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 5: like you know, if you if you put him into

977
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 5: his situation, like I say, we know with Booth and

978
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 5: what you got with that, we have an idea of pride.

979
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 5: You know, the guys that that were kind of Carson.

980
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 5: You know, if Carson, I would feel so much better

981
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 5: about the situation going into year two for Carson if

982
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 5: I'd seen some some progress in year one. But you know,

983
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 5: there's there's there's unknown about him for sure. I mean

984
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 5: they they you know, they like Josh Butler played really

985
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 5: well for him a little bit, you know. I mean

986
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 5: there's guys that they've had that that have played well.

987
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 5: But it's you know, Digs. You know, you Digs.

988
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 2: You need digs back.

989
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, really do need digs back.

990
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 4: And let me say this, I think I think Diggs

991
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 4: gets a I think he gets a little bit of

992
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 4: a bum rap when people talk about, you know, he

993
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 4: ain't that good or whatever. At the end of the day,

994
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 4: he might give up some plays. Cornerbacks do that.

995
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 6: By the way.

996
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 4: He's not a shut down corner He's not one of

997
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 4: the best one, two, three cornerbacks in the league. But

998
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 4: he is more than quality at the cornerback position. Like

999
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 4: he is a good cornerback he gives them some plays. Okay, great,

1000
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 4: you name they're probably in this league right now. Are

1001
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 4: there any real shut down cornerbacks? There's some good cornerbacks

1002
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 4: and the probably some that are better. I just don't

1003
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 4: I think he gets a bum rap and it's almost like.

1004
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 6: It's all or none.

1005
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 4: He's either great or he's not, and he's and if

1006
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 4: he's not, then he's not worth having.

1007
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 6: I just don't think.

1008
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think people are on him because they know

1009
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 5: we focus on compensation, but we also focus on lack

1010
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 5: of availability. And I think that that's a fair criticisms.

1011
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 5: That's the biggest problem. It's like, okay, compensation does not

1012
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 5: match availability. So now we're kind of, you know, we're

1013
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 5: and they were thinking about, well, we're trying to rub

1014
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 5: two Nichols together to go sign guys, you know, and

1015
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 5: that's a little bit of a problem.

1016
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 9: And that's where I struggled with right now, is with him.

1017
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 9: You know, he has the talent.

1018
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 7: We've seen it. He's a great football player, but.

1019
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 9: My memory currently is so faint of like, what do

1020
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 9: I remember of him doing on the field right now?

1021
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's always going to be real easy.

1022
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 9: But and then in the last year, you know, because

1023
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 9: of the injury and all that, I just I hope

1024
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 9: that he really is committed to this whole recovery rehab

1025
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 9: thing that he's putting in the time and the work

1026
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 9: to do that properly, and that he can come back

1027
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 9: in really good shape for the start of the season.

1028
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 4: We've had such a little time to see him and

1029
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 4: Bland on the field together. Yeah, think about the scope

1030
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 4: of their careers together. But when we've seen them on

1031
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 4: the field together, they've been really good. And I just think,

1032
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 4: can we get to a point where both are healthy,

1033
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 4: healthy and we can keep both of them on the

1034
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 4: field and then give me a little bit of revel

1035
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 4: with it, Like I would love to see that threesome

1036
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 4: on the field for a majority of the season, And

1037
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 4: I think if you can see that, I think everybody

1038
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 4: will feel really good about the cornerback position. Now that's

1039
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 4: a big leap because you haven't seen it very much

1040
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 4: and right now two of those three are hurt.

1041
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 6: So it's just I think.

1042
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 4: That's the part where the biggest question mark is really

1043
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 4: about their health. Can you get this group healthy and

1044
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 4: if you can, I think you'll feel really good about him.

1045
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 8: One more thing, Diggs may not be top three, but

1046
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 8: whenever you played the Vikings, Justin Jefferson really didn't do

1047
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 8: that much to you. When you played the Bengals, j

1048
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 8: mar Chase didn't do that much to you. The Washington

1049
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 8: Football Wizards twice a year. Terarry McLaurin hates to see Treva.

1050
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 6: A Washington Football Wizards.

1051
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: I'm not going to respect this new goofy name.

1052
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 6: That's hilarious.

1053
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 5: I like it.

1054
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 2: And then they can't be Cooper rush Man. Come on, no,

1055
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: I'm not washing this.

1056
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 8: But you know Diggs what he may not be a

1057
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 8: shut down guy, but those top tier wide receivers, he

1058
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 8: has great days versus those guys. I think that's bad.

1059
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 8: I would much rather and you could do a quick

1060
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 8: round table. I would much rather Digs here healthy than

1061
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 8: to try to get some pick for him.

1062
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, like play out, like playing

1063
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 2: be here.

1064
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 6: I just wanted to be healthy.

1065
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly right. All right, we're gonna take our

1066
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 4: I mean we're talking not just our final break break,

1067
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 4: a real break. We're gonna be out until training camp,

1068
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 4: until training camp begins, we'll get back start at once.

1069
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 4: We are out in Oxnard, California. So we'll open up

1070
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 4: that show. I still have a lot of questions from

1071
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 4: the twenty twenty five offseason wrap. We'll get to that

1072
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 4: as we open a training camp in Oxnard, but until then,

1073
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Speaker 4: for Box Lombardi, Brian brought us Ambergarci.

1074
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Speaker 6: I'm Derek eagleson.

1075
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