1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: with our radio. Hello, welcome to a midweek almost name 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: as podcast. It's gonna be a girl talk podcast because 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: I got Michelle Young and Rachel. I'm gonna say your 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: last name, right, Reia, She's right. We also have Klin 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: soon to be Bell, Caitlin Bell coming on the podcast, 7 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: so it'll be all of us with Kleen's going to 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: enter in a little bit because you know what, she's 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: watching the sunset with her fiance, which is so cute. 10 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: I never felt so single. We watched the sunset? We did? 11 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: You guys actually watched the sunset tonight with your ex, 12 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: your mutual ex, quite did, and he took a video 13 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: of us, a really good video, so you know, at 14 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: least we have that. You know, Rachel, isn't weird that 15 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: you are just hanging out this week with somebody that 16 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: you said I love you too, and he said I 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: love you back. I don't know, like, going into this weekend, 18 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: I think I had no idea what to expect. I 19 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: think we knew we were going to kind of be civil, 20 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: but we were able to really actually have good conversation 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: and talk everything through his adults and having both been 22 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: through our own seasons, it's been really nice to see 23 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: him as a friend now, and Michelle has been there 24 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: to watch it. I know I've been by I've been 25 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: by myself this weekend and I finally got my I 26 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: finally got my best fie back because they talked through 27 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: everything that they need to talk about, which they didn't 28 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: need to talk now, and I did back. So if 29 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: somebody amongst the two of you we're to get to 30 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: get question more likely to be Rachel. I mean, she's giggling. 31 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: My name is out of the question. I'm not even 32 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: in the running. I don't even know if Michelle knew 33 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: who clean was ever being honest, I'm not gonna lie. 34 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: I Clayton and I joke about this and he knew 35 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: that I was going to talk about this or mentioned this. 36 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: But like you, when you go through the show, do 37 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: you do like you? Some people fall behind and Clayton 38 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: I really didn't know too much about and I was 39 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: not very chipper at that point in Minnesota with going 40 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: on a date with him. I was really really tired. 41 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: You were tired, and I wanted to send him home 42 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: much through the date. Then I was allowed, Okay, okay, 43 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: and he knows this. Now, why do you think that 44 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: they wanted him to be the Bachelor? Did you find 45 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 1: it to be a weird choice when he was announced? Um, honestly, 46 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: I feel like I was still very much in enjoying 47 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: at that time, just like the relationship that I was in, 48 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: and so I was happy for him, but I didn't 49 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: know much about him. And it kind of always gets 50 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: pinned on them, like it's like timing, right, because like 51 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: a season, the roll over the season's comes so fast, 52 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: and so they're like, well, Michelle, everyone else was in Mexico, 53 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: so even if yeah, yeah, so I don't know it 54 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: all works out, how it works out, but yeah, she 55 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: was a little lose price. I just yeah, I was surprised, 56 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: like we were like going into it originally that was 57 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: never who we not that we like I thought anything, 58 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: but you know, there were the obvious front runners, and 59 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: like Katie season, Michelle's season hadn't even aired yet, so 60 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: when we got the announcement, we didn't even see Michelle's 61 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: Night one, so that was us all meeting him for 62 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: the first time too. And it's just like I think 63 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: people who watch The Bachelor and know that it's typically 64 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: one of like somebody in the top four or just 65 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: somebody who makes it further along unless they pull another 66 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: like Matt James situation where they just like pull you 67 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: out of the casting and making the next Bachelor that 68 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: didn't really work out. For a lot of that doesn't 69 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: really happen. Yeah, So yeah, okay, I can never you 70 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: can never fully predict anything in this Branches. Well, I'm 71 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: glad that you guys are all cool with Clayton and 72 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: that you can hang out as exes together. Now, Rachel, 73 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: we had when one of your ex is maybe I 74 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: guess you and Zach would you consider yourself being more 75 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: serious with Clayton or being more serious with Zach. I 76 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: just from my viewing point of view, I would imagine 77 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: it was Clayton, since you exchanged I love you, I 78 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: would say Clayin Yeah, I mean not only that, but 79 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: he met my family. I met his family vice versa, 80 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: where Zach I only met his family and I never 81 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: did get to that point with him. So yeah, I 82 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: would say probably Clayton. So I would say it's intense 83 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: feelings for different reasons. Oh really, okay, So what's the 84 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:52,119 Speaker 1: intense feeling for Zach? Then I think me and Zach 85 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: had a really great relationship in the beginning. He was 86 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: someone where he really made me realize this process does work, 87 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: because it's very hard in the beginning, and I remember 88 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: thinking like, maybe my person just isn't here, like I 89 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: don't know, and he really changed that for me. So 90 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: I think that was Zack's really big role on My 91 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: Journey season in that way. But then feelings for other 92 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: people I think did start kind of surpassing him a 93 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: little bit. So when he was on the podcast, he 94 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: seemed to still be a little spicy towards whatever happened 95 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:28,119 Speaker 1: in the Fantasies week with you. How did you react 96 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: to that? Did you hear it? It has? He said 97 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: it in multiple places? I don't know. Yeah, I mean, 98 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: I'm actually shocked at kind of the things I have heard, 99 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: not only what I heard on your podcast and mainly that, 100 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: but even when I heard Night one all this talk 101 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: about I want someone who's authentic on and off camera, 102 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: as if me choosing or feeling stronger feelings for other 103 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: people somehow made me not authentic, or if us not 104 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: aligning on certain important views makes him wrong. It's just 105 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,559 Speaker 1: really honestly shocking to hear him still kind of paint 106 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: me in this really negative light where I thought at 107 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: our after the Final Roads, we kind of did make up. 108 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: A lot of fans speculate that you had, like you 109 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: found out some huge lifestyle difference or political difference in 110 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: the Fantasy Suite. Is that true at all? I mean, 111 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: I think we definitely talked about what a life would 112 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: look like, how we would raise kids, and I think 113 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: those conversations do come up. I mean, Michelle, you know, 114 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: you start asking those really important questions off camera, and 115 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: we I mean there were things we didn't align with. 116 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that me and Tino and me 117 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: and even aligned on everything, but our views. I think 118 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: the way we wanted to raise families and the way 119 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: we wanted to live life just aligned better, if that 120 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: makes sense. When we interviewed Zack about two weeks ago, 121 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: I heard some fan feedback that was definitely siding with you, 122 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: being like, of course she asked tough questions. Of course, 123 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: it's going to feel like an interview in there, because 124 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: there's so much you guys haven't covered before you're supposed 125 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: to get into an engagement situation. So what's your response 126 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: to that? I mean, I think absolutely if you were 127 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: going into the fantasy suite anywhere not asking those hard 128 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: questions and what are you even doing? This is an 129 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: engagement and this is serious and we've talked about it. 130 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: I think maybe with Zach's situation, it felt maybe more 131 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: like an interview because we have these amazing dates and 132 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: then behind camera, I think we both just realized these 133 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: amazing dates we were on maybe like that's where it 134 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: was coming from. And then when it comes down to it, 135 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: do we really align like can we really see this life? 136 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: And I thought we were both on the same page 137 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: of like maybe we're not, like maybe this isn't kind 138 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: of gonna work. And I mean did we say that 139 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: out loud? No, because I think Zach did deserve every 140 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: single second he got off camera because we did have 141 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: an incredible relationship and I did want to give him 142 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: that time. It really didn't matter what I was feeling 143 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: before that. But yeah, it kind of solid if at 144 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: it for me. I think from like also like just 145 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: even like a friend perspective, and yeah, it's a outside 146 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: perspective and it's like a biased one, right, but like 147 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: when you go into fantasy sweets, you do ask questions 148 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: that you typically you're you're on this romantic date. You 149 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: you do your everything's lovey dovey, But in relationship, everything 150 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: is not always love You debby, like, you have to 151 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: talk about finances. That's a hard conversation you have to 152 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: talk about you actually ask the guys in your fantasy 153 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: sweets about their credit score. I don't because I think, no, 154 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: not me personally, not me personally, But like we have 155 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: I've talked with the previous bachelorrets with just how in 156 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: depth they get talking about sounds yes, um and and 157 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: honestly rightfully. So you you talk about politics, you talk 158 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: about all these other things and kind of like the 159 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: not as cute side of relationships. You're going into an engagement, 160 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: you're really trying to figure out how to spend the 161 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: rest of your life with each other and every but 162 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: he really prioritizes and like romanticizes vulnerability. Sometimes vulnerability is 163 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 1: not crying and opening up your heart. Sometimes vulnerability is 164 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: really being like, hey, look like these things are really 165 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,599 Speaker 1: important to me. And I think with my issue with 166 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: what has kind of how it's been presented forward is 167 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: the fact that it's okay that two people don't align 168 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: with politics with you know, we saw that in Tassia's 169 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: Tastia season with everything kind of moving with her and Ivan. Right, 170 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: people are not going to always line up on politics, 171 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: on religion and all these different things. But just because 172 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: you don't like how somebody aligns doesn't make them a fraud, 173 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: and doesn't you don't moving forward and using your platform 174 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: and the spot the current spotlight to imply that they're 175 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: a fraud, that they're not realistic, that they're not It's like, no, 176 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: we we had to really break down, like you guys 177 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: really had to break down and talk about those things. 178 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: And it goes both ways. And so I think from 179 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: an outside perspective, I've had just like an issue with 180 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: just think what's being implied right, It's it's it's like 181 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: as a character deficit when in reality it's like an 182 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: un alignment. But you know, that's a great point, Rachel. 183 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: Do you feel like there's a specific thing that Zach 184 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: is that like if you had to like say it 185 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: in a sentence or two, that he keeps repeating that 186 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: is particularly bothers him. I mean, I think for me, 187 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: it's just mainly him saying that I'm a different person 188 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: off camera, that I'm inauthentic that this was acting. I mean, 189 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: it very obviously wasn't. People watched me time after time 190 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: send people home on the spot when I knew it 191 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: wasn't right. And I genuinely cared about Zack so much 192 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: that I wanted to give him this time and I 193 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: wanted to see if we can align. And like Michelle said, 194 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: these dates are fun and they're cute, and you're the 195 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: bachelorette and you're having fun, and when you get behind 196 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: closed doories, you're like, okay, let's honestly have a conversation. 197 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: And so because it didn't go his way, the fact 198 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: that I mean, even after an apology, it's still being 199 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: painted like this, it just really is so hurtful. So 200 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: that's kind of my main It's just frustrating, Like it's 201 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: not even a female perspective, right, but like it is frustrating. 202 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: People walk into fantasy suits expecting intimacy a lot of times, 203 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: and it's presented that way a lot of times, and 204 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: like dos, like you can't walk in and just expect like, okay, 205 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: physical you know, an issue like physical contact has to 206 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: take place or should take place, or like all these 207 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: different things. Like I think that's an expectation that I 208 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: definitely saw even too when when people are just walking 209 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: into these situations and it's like no, like just because 210 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: you made it to this point doesn't mean you're granted anything, 211 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: access to anything, and like, yeah, well, because we truly 212 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: use the fantasy suites for like would I think that 213 00:11:55,920 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: says it all right, makes its wonder because we do 214 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: truly use the fantasy suitets more I think than for 215 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: anything intimate conversation exactly should we have some other portion 216 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: of the show that is you know, it becomes a 217 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,599 Speaker 1: normal part of the process where it's like and this 218 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: is the room in which we talk about serious things 219 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: that we don't feel comfortable TV and there's no sexual 220 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: expectations and there are there no cameras, and like that, 221 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:29,599 Speaker 1: should we should we be showing these conversations more or 222 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: should we have the lead and like their for their 223 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: first couple of top picks, yes, be able to have 224 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: a place where they can have these conversations off camera. 225 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: I think that is a rip off, like the sex 226 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: part of it, because then that means when you go 227 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: to the fantasy sweets and that is part of it, 228 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: it's like you as a couple in life have to 229 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: decide what you're prioritizing, like do you like like some 230 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: people valance, some people really want to seek out the 231 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: physical intimacy, which is that's not a wrong thing, and 232 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: that's what they go for. But it's like how you 233 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: use your time, like that's how we you know, present 234 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: it and having having political conversations on TV. You just 235 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: don't want to good luck religious? How do you want 236 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: to raise kids? Like you you guys know you really 237 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: that is the time where you have to do it. 238 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: And like, going off of what you said to I think, 239 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it would be amazing if you could have 240 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: that full night and then maybe have one conversation off 241 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: camera before an engagement, because I think that was something 242 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: I could have benefited from just in my even situation 243 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: where if maybe we were off camera for ten minutes, 244 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: I think he could have maybe gotten across to me 245 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: a little bit more like just looking back at things 246 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: like that, I don't know, I think it could have 247 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: been helpful. It's definitely one of the hugest reasons as 248 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: to why I think paradise couples are more successful is 249 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 1: because we really don't have to seek out that private 250 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 1: time you're you have it like there's rooms that you 251 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: can go into and the camera is not going to 252 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: follow you, so intenlee and you have multiple like you 253 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: can you can make your own fantasy suite. You can 254 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: have those conversations and they probably won't get aired. Yeah, 255 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: it's like I think that it's almost I'm curious, like 256 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: when moving forward, if it will ever if the show 257 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: will ever become less restrictive, because there is this you 258 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: hear people like sneaking out of there, um you know, 259 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: even like mid filming or whatever, sneaking out of their 260 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: rooms to go see the other person or just just 261 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: different things happening, and it's like it would be so 262 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: I'd be so curious if they would start to allow 263 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: those conversations to take place, because at the end, it's 264 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: not so much of a gamble, like you do you 265 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: want this beautiful love story that you've been amping up 266 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: this entire time, and this balance of drama and excitement 267 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: of we don't know what's gonna happen, and she's gonna 268 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: she's torn between two people or he's torn between two people, 269 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: and then they choose one and then it's like it's 270 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: still truly like a gamble because it's like you're not 271 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: allowed that extra time, So it's like, why why not 272 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: compromise a little bit more so then we can have 273 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: more successful relationships and like support those ships. Yeah, how 274 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: much time do we have and support and support the 275 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: successful relationships? You know, like yeah, help them flourish. Because 276 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: if you do look at the success right of Paradise 277 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: versus the main show, it's maybe they should take note 278 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: and be like, maybe we need to allow a little 279 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: bit more like fluidity in the main show so that 280 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: these people can actually get to know each other better, 281 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: Like so that like, the more successful couples, the more 282 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: people are going to be bound to continue to watch 283 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: the show. Like take a look at what is the 284 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: last successful couple of Bachelor that rael, you know, Like, 285 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: but I'm like talking about like engagement successful because they 286 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: broke up and they got back together. Okay, so the 287 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: whole premise of the show is like you get there 288 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: and you get engaged, and you live happily ever after. 289 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: So it's racially it's chel So that's like five to 290 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: six years, multiple season. And I will also say this, 291 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: what's super interesting about their relationship is that they really 292 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: do work to kind of almost keep each other off 293 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: so social media in a healthy way to protect each other. 294 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: Like that's one thing that I is so interesting, but like, 295 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: it would be so nice to see a couple who 296 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: doesn't have to like like, of course you're always going 297 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: to protect your significant other, but like you don't have to. 298 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: You can share which you want to share, and don't 299 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: let you don't and it's not like you have like 300 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: people licking their chops out for you, Rachel. I want 301 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: to go back to his actors for one more second. 302 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: There's so many girls, you know, around our age dating 303 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: and there's this thing that we like to call the ick. 304 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: I used to call it being grossed out because I 305 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: used to always be like, oh, I want a couple 306 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: of days, and I'm like he's nice, he's get on paper, 307 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: but likes me out. But whatever. Gen Z has kind 308 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: of made the word the ick, so we'll continue with that. 309 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: Lots of fans think that you got the ick from 310 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: him in the Fantasy Suite and you just couldn't hide it, 311 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: and he was like, oh, get this guy out of here. 312 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: Just kind of like dawned on you and you just couldn't, 313 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, you couldn't even keep a smiley face around him, 314 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: was there a little bit of that? I truly like, 315 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: do really like Zack. I think he's a great guy. 316 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: I think by the time my fantasy suits came around, 317 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: my feelings for Even and Tino were just so much higher. 318 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: That is which unfortunate for Zach and unfortunate for any 319 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: of those guys, because girls get it for from very nice, 320 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: gentlemanly men and like guys who are kind and respectful 321 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 1: and all that. But it's just like, but you're not him, 322 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you're just on that conversation the 323 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: morning after. It wasn't that bad. It's just especially really 324 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: comparing a guy to like somebody body in your past 325 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: or somebody you wish you could be with, and that's 326 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: what was happening. But you also can get the ick 327 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: from like the I can still grow, especially once it 328 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: can grow like let me like, once you tell them 329 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: no and then the way respond it can grow then't 330 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: respond in like a kind way? Who are you referring to? Oh? 331 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: Manout my question? I have a question for you too, though. 332 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: Once you start to get the yeah, does it ever 333 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: go away? Refers itself? Can you personally come back from it? Never? Ever? 334 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: I know some people who can get past it? Wow, 335 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: that's delusion, that's like a real that's desperation too. I 336 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: feel like that's like somebody really wanting to be with someone. 337 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: Do you think you can get pastick? Hell no? When 338 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: I once I get the egg, like, I will do 339 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: anything to get out of that situation. Yeah, nope, I'm gone. 340 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: Was there that happened to dear season? Did you ever 341 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: get the egg on a one on one? Um? What 342 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: about that guy? Was? So it was yours, the gross guy, 343 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: the one that you went on the cliff with, Oh, Jamie, Yes, okay, 344 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: so okay, so so but here's the thing though I 345 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: didn't I didn't actually learn about how nasty and like 346 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it, narcissistic this person was because you 347 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: were only like you only spent such a small amount 348 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: of time with that. And I see my person as 349 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: like I'm good at reading people, but also when they're 350 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: only in front of your face. Yeah, our our first 351 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: one on one. We're both getting our first one on 352 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: one date. Legs underneath us, me as a lead him, 353 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: Like there's a lot going on where in the hundred 354 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: degrees on trying to freaking climb up this wall? Um, 355 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: or this rock formation, and so it's like I didn't 356 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: really peep it out there at all. And then there 357 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: was one moment where I actually got pulled aside and 358 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: I was told what was going on, um, and that 359 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: right there when I sat down in the conversation and 360 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: when I addressed it to him, and the way he 361 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: handled it, that right there, like he showed him or 362 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: showed who, like what kind of person he was for me. 363 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: I will yeah, I got the ick. But like, especially 364 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: when we're sitting there, all the cameras around us, I'm like, 365 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let your two colors shows, Like you 366 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: keep running around in circles, you keep calling me names. 367 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things, of course that we're not 368 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: shown or anything like that. There's just a lot of 369 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: lies and deceitfulness. Um. But when you have like the 370 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: cameras on your side, I'm like, do yourself a whole 371 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: keep going whatever. But that that's not really the ick. 372 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: That's like the you're not even disappointed. I'm just more 373 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: like boy By, Like boy By, like you just don't 374 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 1: deserve any time or energy or like treat women that way. 375 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: So that's not even I see it as like for 376 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: no reason. Sometimes for no reason. Ok yeah, yeah, that's 377 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: probably what the definition is. It's like a poor guy's 378 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: things and give me out of here. They're like, I 379 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: don't think that guys experienced this feeling. I think they 380 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: have no idea why the head intuition at the end 381 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: of the day, it's like a women like women have intuition, 382 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: and like maybe we just like no, deep down, like 383 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: they're not the one and that's like the feeling and 384 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 1: they don't listen to that, Like I don't even think 385 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: they have that capacity. Maybe they don't because I feel 386 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: like they're thinking about the physical intimacy or touched more 387 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: than a lot of guys are. You know. Yeah, I 388 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: think the hormones and the testosterone and stuff gets in 389 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: the way. Okay, So like even like speaking of X, right, 390 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: I feel like we prioritize or like level the types 391 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: of X. So I have a would you rather so 392 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: you said? You said a spray Tan or Kalin you've 393 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: been talking about like Cain has entered the room, fool. 394 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: Caitlin is entered the room and we're going to play 395 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: this game with her now, so welcome her. And Okay, 396 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: so caitl and you mentioned that like, what gives you 397 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: the I is that if like men get regular spray 398 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: chance does any okay? My okay? So would you rather 399 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: date somebody who regularly gets spray chans regularly or who 400 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: has chronic bad breath? Spray tans are touching chronic bad breath. Also, 401 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: I don't think it comes from something that they do 402 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: necessarily as much as it is just like a vibe 403 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: that you get from them. It's almost overly friendliness. But 404 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, but just like I'm not sure about you, 405 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: but you don't like over friendliness. I don't want somebody 406 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: to be overly this is me is a single like 407 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: me in a single mind. I don't want people to 408 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: be like overly excited around me and friendly around me, 409 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: like eager to get to know somebody shared. Are you listening? 410 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: I guess it comes back to the fact that I 411 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: do like hard to get to a certain wanting what 412 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: you can't have. Probably I love the chase and me 413 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: and Jeney've actually talked about this and like, if a 414 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: guy is playing games with me, like, oh, this is 415 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: like fun, you guys, why do you want to play games? 416 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: Like this isn't fun? Like no, I like it I 417 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: like it when he's like keeping me on my toes. 418 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: My sister. My sister secretly like she not so secretly 419 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: wants her fiance to just not text her back sometimes 420 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: so that she can she'll be freaked out and worried 421 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: that he's going to leave because that hard to get 422 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: is like what she wants. You're you're married and you 423 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: still like the chase or no, now it's different. No, 424 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: now it's totally different. I'm just trying to put myself 425 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: back in the day. If a guy was like making 426 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: some extreme icounts, say it's a second day, okay, and 427 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: he is showing so much interest in me, body language, 428 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: icon tacked, everything is just like I want to get 429 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: to know you. I want to touch your hand, you know, 430 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: put my hand on the smell of your back. If 431 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: he's doing that and I am not sold on him, 432 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: I'll be like I feel like that's true though, because 433 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: because show, like I think the guys were feel slower 434 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: to open up, Like I was more like, oh what 435 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: are what you know? What are they about? Even he 436 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: was like more slow And there were guys like immediately 437 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: were like I like you, like you don't even know me, 438 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: Like you just you just met me, and I don't 439 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: know I get you. I see you want to I 440 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: want to feel like I'm winning the affection. Also, it's 441 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: funny coming from you because like that's how you dared 442 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: were yea and more like happen happen is not gonna happen. Okay, 443 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: But I feel like you guys are describing like almost 444 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: like two different types of the chase, Like would you 445 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: prefer to chase somebody who's playing hard to get or 446 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: would you prefer to be the person since playing hard 447 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: to get and feel that someone's chasing you. I see, 448 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: that's that's that's my problem. I wish that I want 449 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: that I liked the feeling of being chased, but I don't. Yeah, 450 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: I didn't think I'm wired to be the chaser. However, 451 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: none of the guys in my life that I really 452 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: really liked them more interested in They all liked me 453 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: to a certain degree back, like they'd hang out with me, 454 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: they'd make out with me, blah blah blah, but like 455 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: nobody would ever be like I want to be my girlfriend, right, 456 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: So like that would make me want them way more 457 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: and okay, okay, wait, wait, okay, So how hard do 458 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: you chase because if you remember, you said you get 459 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: the IG from somebody who's like, hi, I know that 460 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: person to them, Yes, problem, I know. I don't take 461 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: my own advice advice, but I would also try to, Like, 462 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: I think the only time I was very much not 463 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: cool was with Jared, where it was just like I 464 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: guess that was like the only situation like that. I think. 465 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: Otherwise I was a little bit more subdude, but also like, 466 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: you know, you always think you're cool and sub dude 467 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: until you go back and you read your diary or 468 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: you have to watch yourself. I always like, I never 469 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: thought I was like that bad, and then I'm watching 470 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: myself and I'm like, who are you? You're scared. I 471 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to be with you. It's the same thing 472 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: I came back from the Bachelor. My parents were like, so, 473 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: how are you going to be? And I was like, you, guys, 474 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be so cool. I'm so proud of myself. 475 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: And then I watched myself back and it was like 476 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: that craziness. Oh my god, that's we'll give me another 477 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 1: all other would you rather either or okay, wait does 478 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: anyone else? What do you guys? What is your take. Well, 479 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 1: I know it's like a little bit different because we're 480 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: all in the bachelor world and we all are on 481 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: social media, But what is your take on a guy 482 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: who was like obsessed with so media and it's like 483 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:06,239 Speaker 1: constantly posting, constantly like worried about things, Like what's your 484 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: take on that. I want the guy to be into 485 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: it to a certain extent, but only be on it, 486 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: but not obsessed or very interested. But if he's not 487 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: on it, doesn't that almost kind of raise a red flag, 488 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: like what are you hiding? Do you have another girlfriend? 489 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: Because my sister always goes cheaters don't have Instagram. I mean, yeah, 490 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: well I'm with Dean and it's like he's on it, 491 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: but he doesn't post and he hates posting, and I 492 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: think that's like the perfect thing for me, Like he 493 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: hates being in the scene and he hates like all 494 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: the things that we do to get money, and I 495 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: kind of like it, like it doesn't pay the bills, 496 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: but it's nice. Like the opposite would be so much worse, 497 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 1: Like a guy that is just so obsessed with TikTok's 498 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: and views and engagement. If you're like person was into 499 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: making TikTok's like your guy and like he was so 500 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: excited to double over some trending audio. That's me, Okay, 501 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: I want somebody. I want somebody who will literally I 502 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: want somebody who will have fun and like you know 503 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: those couples that you see the couples on TikTok to 504 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: in the dance trends and doing things together and having 505 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: fun together like TikTok. And actually I love TikTok more 506 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: than Instagram because it's just so much less pressure pressure. 507 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: I feel like it's less harsh on your mental health. 508 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: But like someone who will make content with you, have fun, 509 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,719 Speaker 1: not be so not be miserable doing and if you are, 510 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: that's totally fine. I don't it's miserable doingthing are but 511 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: like this is kind of part of our life right 512 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: now anyways, and so it's like let's just like embrace it. 513 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: And so I don't know, it would be nice having 514 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: someone that would be like, yeah, let's jump on board 515 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: and do this fun dance TikTok because it's actually becomes 516 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: less about the video in the TikTok and more about 517 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: the fun time. Because when we're actually filming TikTok's and 518 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: like do we whether it's a dance chand whether it's 519 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: a dog, whether it's or whatever, like it's actually you 520 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: end up laughing because then she just brought up like 521 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: another thing like when Jared and I make like our 522 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: silly skits, like we did one for like we did 523 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: a Gremlins one for Halloween and a Batman one for Halloween, 524 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: and he loves editing them and they're just they are 525 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: really fun to get our creative juices and just something 526 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: fun to do. But I guess that's just consumed. If 527 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: you become consumed with the likes that we have to 528 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: do this, we have to do it this time. Oh 529 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: we haven't posted in this many days. Like that's where 530 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: it becomes intense, and like when it goes beyond a 531 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,479 Speaker 1: creative project. Yeah, sometimes I'll just see something that they 532 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: post and I'm like, you had to set your phone up. Okay, okay, 533 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,959 Speaker 1: shirtless pictures also, like I'm sorry, but the the guys, 534 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: the new guys on these these seasons, like yeah, like 535 00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: the guys that were on your season, like Rachel know, 536 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: like and I've been telling you this a bunch, Like 537 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: the guys that they're casting now are so different from 538 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: the guys like the Deans, the Jared's because social media 539 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: wasn't a thing. So now these new guys are having 540 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: professional photo shoots and the TikTok's they're creating, and like 541 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: again setting up the phone, like you really thought this out. 542 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: And I know I'm being judgmental right now, but I'm like, 543 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just being a little judge. I don't 544 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: like it. It isn't it. And I will say from 545 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: somebody who like just even he and I have talked 546 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: about this, Rach, but like when you go through public 547 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: breakups and then they have social media, and especially with TikTok, 548 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: now where you like there's like storytelling, there's all these 549 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: other avenue or things that come out. It's like, shit, 550 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: I didn't know that you believed. I don't know how 551 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: you believe in certain things because that's not what I 552 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: was told, which is totally fine, but it's like, damn okay, 553 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: like ship, you're not even like there's so many different 554 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: things that you learned about somebody that I'm like, you 555 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: told me the exact opposite, which is no, we're going 556 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: to go tear up its Instagram and TikTok. After that, 557 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: it's not even him. I'm not I'm gonna say I 558 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: want I won't even name drop, but like it's just 559 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: like it's really funny watching these things because it's like, Yo, 560 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: why did you tell me things I could get opposite? 561 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: Or like wait, what do you believe in this? And 562 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: not this? Wait? You made fun of this? But then 563 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: like it's just so weird, like sit there and process, 564 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: like I don't know any of these people that walk 565 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: on the show because so many people to my point, 566 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: it's not even about like an X, but like where 567 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: are they lying to you? Are they like lying to 568 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: their heart? Are you doing it for views and likes? 569 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: Are you doing it because people will get people talking? 570 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: Or you doing it because that's what you believe, Like 571 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: it's really confusing, and it's even more so confusing like 572 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: even moving forward and getting to know new people and 573 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: seeing their TikTok, it's just like do you take what 574 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: they're saying like face value, entertaining enter Like that's my 575 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: whole point, and it's just like it's weird. Was it 576 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: Michael B. Jordan's Instagram we were looking at because we 577 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: know I look at that all the time. That's her, 578 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: that's her guy? I clearly missed my chance because why 579 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: you're seeing a relationship is not in a relationship new one? Yeah? No, 580 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: are we sure? It's okay? I'll keep that out. We'll see. 581 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: I really know if just shoot me a text so 582 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: that I can slide, but we're respectful. So yes, did 583 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: you slide? No? You should have. I know I found 584 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: out too late. I respect to get Instagram slide, I 585 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: really do. I think Instagram is the new like dating app. 586 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: I think it's I think that's Ben and Jess met 587 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: Diana and I our relationship Iceland in like Ben and 588 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: Jess are married. I think you go into dating apps, 589 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,959 Speaker 1: you could go look at their social media and then 590 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: you like message him after So why not just cut 591 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: at the middleman and send a day so so? But 592 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,479 Speaker 1: like from somebody coming And I actually don't know who 593 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: to ask us because we're all in Basterlination and we're 594 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,239 Speaker 1: at one point. But do you, like, have you ever 595 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: thought about what other people outside of Vasterlination think of Vasterlination? 596 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: Like if if a girl are the girl, if a guy, 597 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: if a girl or a guy like slid into your 598 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: d M s and they're from bastelorin nation went through 599 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: this whole process where it's like, yeah, I love you, engaged, 600 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: this is the present, there's my life with Would you 601 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: be like, out, yeah, that is difficult to in like 602 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: dating now, I think with like especially being in Michelle 603 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: and I's position of like having to go on these 604 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: dates with people who might not necessarily know the show, 605 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: and you just be like, oh, yeah, I was engaged, 606 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: but like, you know, it's okay, Like it's fine, like 607 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,719 Speaker 1: it was three months ago, but like it's okay, it's 608 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: okay because I knew them for less than three I 609 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: only saw him three times total, but and they're just 610 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: what is going on? So it is kind of interesting 611 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: yet to your point, like what you know, we like crazy, 612 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: We are crazy. When you guys do get engaged for real, 613 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: will you consider it? Will you consider the engagement from 614 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: the show a real engagement or kind of like an 615 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: annulled engagement? Was Honestly, I'll say, I don't know even 616 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: I'm not going to speak for you, Rache, but like 617 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: for me tainted because it was like it was my 618 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: dream ring. It was I wanted the relationship to work. 619 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: I was willing to put in work for the relationship, 620 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: and I had the person take off and you know, 621 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: like that's not something that I've bluntly said because Instagram 622 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: and there's all these other things on you. But it's like, 623 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: I know what it looks like to work through relationship, 624 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: and I know how hard relationships can get, and but 625 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: both people have to be capable of doing that, and 626 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: so for me it was, yeah, I feel like that 627 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: was literally kind of stripped away from me. So it 628 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 1: pisces me off, but I also I'm like, great, I 629 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: can't wait to do it like for real this next time, 630 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: like with somebody who really, like I know, will be there. 631 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to figure out a different cut of 632 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: a ring because it happening. I will tell you, you know, 633 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: the stars happening, the styles, and we always decide we 634 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: like something else when we already have it, Like I 635 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: love my ring, of course, but then it's like two 636 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: years after my ring, a whole other style is getting popular, 637 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 1: and I'm like, wait, I don't want that ring to 638 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: find something we should all get kill. I love that 639 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: in my mom much less. Just keep getting new voice 640 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: night because it's fake rock. Yeah, I think call me out. 641 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: You wouldn't have known, nobody would know. And know what 642 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: they have. They have a healthy relationship, so exactly, it 643 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 1: doesn't if you bring up the vois Night ring to him, 644 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: he gets very upset because he paid for a real 645 00:35:54,320 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: diamond that he lost. Yeah, so anyway, being in a 646 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: jump drawer is a problem. Yeah, and that was blaming Dean. 647 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: I know. Is there any chance that story in the 648 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: laundry is there anything's going to be a dry or 649 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: or filter? Is there any chance you need to pull 650 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: out all of the tubing and everything that's on his list? 651 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: But he has so tell me needs to prioritize it 652 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: before he leaves for Antarctica. I know. But the thing is, 653 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: we went through hours and hours of camera footage that 654 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: overlooks exactly where the junk drawer was, and it was 655 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: never taken out. So then we have people sliding into 656 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: our d m s where like maybe a mouse took 657 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 1: it and like thought it was because it was wrapper, 658 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: and they're like, maybe you dropped it somewhere in your 659 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 1: house and I was like, that probably didn't happen, but 660 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: you have stolen it. No, like it was never We 661 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: cannot find the video footage of when it was taken 662 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 1: out of the drawer, like we're looking at night We're looking. 663 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, did you tear it? Like, did you 664 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: just take a jackhammer to of freaking night stand drawer 665 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: to break it apart? No? No, it's um it's in 666 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,720 Speaker 1: a drunk drawer like in the middle of our island, 667 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: could be behind the drawer. Checked everything we like, can 668 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: you like break the like did you you physically took 669 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: apart every piece of the drawer? Well? No, but it's 670 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: like it's like a you know, well constructed it can't 671 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: fall in the crack like I don't know. But and 672 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: he's so upset about it. But at the end of 673 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: the day, we decided because I wanted to buy my 674 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 1: own engagement ring, um, because I'm a bread winner, and 675 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 1: I was like, I make more money, I want to, 676 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: like I want to, and I'm gonna be wearing this 677 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: every day. So we came to the decision that I 678 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: would buy him a truck and he would buy me 679 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: a ring. So he got a truck and he's like, 680 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: your truck. Uh, well, I put the amount towards the 681 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: truck that he put into the ring. Okay, gotcha, I 682 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:01,399 Speaker 1: got it. I think is down the road is going 683 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 1: to be do you guys want kids. Yeah, I think 684 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: down the road, this is gonna be like a funny story. 685 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: Maybe it might be a little funny for you before him, 686 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: but like, I think it's a funny story that you 687 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 1: guys are gonna know he doesn't care. You would think 688 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 1: that he cares, and he doesn't like he hates the 689 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: fact that he spent money on something. And now I 690 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 1: have a moist night ring that I love, but it's gorgeous. 691 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: He doesn't care that he lost it. And also it's 692 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: like the most deemed thing ever I know. Also, if 693 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: you were to find the ring, would you be more 694 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: attached to that ring than the other one? Would you 695 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: be like at that point, would you be like, let's 696 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: sell the ring back, use something else with it, and 697 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: keep that one. It's a good idea, yeah, honestly. But 698 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: this is the thing that I have been telling everyone 699 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 1: who's about to get married and about to get engaged, 700 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,919 Speaker 1: Like we're now paying for a wedding, and I wish 701 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: he didn't spend that much. And I wish I didn't 702 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 1: spend so much on a truck because like, weddings are 703 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: so expensive at the end of the day, like a 704 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 1: ring's ring, I like I love Jey, but I don't 705 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: care that much, so I wish we just wouldn't have 706 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: spent that and saved it for the wedding. Well, there 707 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 1: you go, saw a part of the drawer so that 708 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: you can sell it back to Tom your wedding. Yeah, 709 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:10,280 Speaker 1: m all right. I want to wrap up this podcast, 710 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: which I actually don't want to wrap up because this 711 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: is really fun. But sorry to the audience. We're just 712 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: gonna go have fun off the mic and do it 713 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: with food and drink. But first I want to just 714 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: put your guys. So, I'm really into celebrity crushes. Okay, 715 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 1: I've always been into them, and like everybody who follows 716 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: me on Instagram knows that I love Joe Burrow. But 717 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: it's okay because Jared approves um, and I'm trying to 718 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: turn Kaylin onto him. And that was a really good conversion. 719 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: She's she's all in. She's gonna be part of the 720 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: group message it's Burrows pitches. But now I want you 721 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: to to put out your select your single, and I 722 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,800 Speaker 1: want you to put out your celebrity feelers so that 723 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 1: like we can get that into us weekly like a 724 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: headline and so that they can photos. Yeah, exactly, and 725 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 1: then do we gotta pick We probably should pick one 726 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 1: of the single thing. I will have to say that 727 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 1: me and Ashley talked earlier. I Joe Burrow is definitely 728 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: my crash. He is just so sexy. I don't care 729 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow if he ever break up with your girlfriend. 730 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow obviously so hot. Jacob Lordy, who's ja? He's 731 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: in Euphoria? Okay, okay, who's said that before? Is he's single? 732 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,879 Speaker 1: I don't know. He's dating Sidney Crawford's what's her name? 733 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:35,399 Speaker 1: No guys with Austin Butler. He's with someone. Maybe I'm 734 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: getting the wrong nep for a minute, so it was right. 735 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: And then obviously Pete Davidson. I feel like maybe I 736 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 1: could pull Pete Davidson if I was in the same 737 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: room with him. Possibly that's me just stretching. It's just 738 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: we gotta get you in the same Yeah, that's the present. 739 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: Have any ideas he think he's a hard get, because 740 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 1: like it's a hard we all know that he has. 741 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 1: He's obvious pick of the whole world. There's no true 742 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,320 Speaker 1: but you wheel you really quickly. I could Maybe you 743 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: can't do it, Rachel, you could do it. You could, 744 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 1: you know, let's see what Michelle obviously Michael okay, well 745 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,720 Speaker 1: it was Michael v. Jordan. But now he's with somebody. 746 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: So by the time it's cons in us weekly, if 747 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: he's single by that time, cool use this vision. If 748 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: he's not, I guess no. I don't want to say 749 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 1: a second choice. That sounds bad. Travis Kelsey, you know 750 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, all the heart throbs. I'm gonna tell you this. 751 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: I will tell you this. I have become a Chiefs fan. 752 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: I do have a lot of connections the Chiefs. I 753 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 1: have been at the games and yeah, we're going to 754 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 1: the super Bowl and super Bowl and he sent me 755 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: he sent me a pr package the other day. They 756 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: had all his sweatshirts in it. So I always tell 757 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: everybody that Travis, wait, wait, do you know that? You 758 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 1: you know what you know? Are you inn a war 759 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 1: with Tassia over Travis Kelson. I'm never in an evil 760 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: war with Tassa oay or I'm never in an evil 761 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,879 Speaker 1: worth anyone. Does she have a crush on him? Yeah, 762 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 1: she's like throwing her bids out there, she's shooting her 763 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: shotting her shot. Yeah. Okay, do you a girl Okay, yeah, 764 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:23,439 Speaker 1: I I think I don't know. He's got the same 765 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 1: street spag that I get. But I was at you 766 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean, like that like so into this? 767 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 1: No see, I see, I won't go. I won't go directly. 768 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: It's one of my girls. But oh you know if 769 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 1: she if you guys are gonna have to hash it out. 770 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:41,439 Speaker 1: I think, what okay, Kaylen, what were you just saying? 771 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: Get why it goes going to super Bowl? I've been 772 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,800 Speaker 1: too super Bowl, so I don't know why I'm saying it, 773 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: Like what you can. I just want to be like, 774 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 1: why are you going? Um? I like sports? Who are 775 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 1: you going with? Are you buying your own tickets or 776 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: somebody giving you? Like a sweet Yes, somebody's giving you. 777 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 1: I mean I'm going to Wilson Tennis. Where is it 778 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: in Phoenix? Yeah? Who are you doing? I'm literally just going. 779 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 1: I have some friends back in Minnesota who have a 780 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: lot of connections, so I'm going with them for that 781 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: and we'll be there actually leading up to it, like 782 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: waste management and all that stuff is is leading up 783 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: to it. I believe waste Have you heard of waste management? 784 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 1: Have you heard of waste management? I'm never but I'm excited. 785 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 1: Is it garbage cans? Is it sounds so stupid right now? Okay, 786 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 1: but like waste management, like what it like it's I 787 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: know that it's a turn tournament. Like the company, it's 788 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: the company, Okay, is the company garbage cans? I don't 789 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 1: know what it is? Literally though, it is so every 790 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 1: year in Phoenix, Arizona. It is like the biggest attraction 791 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,280 Speaker 1: that like Phoenix Hole or Arizona holds, and people flock 792 00:43:54,360 --> 00:44:00,280 Speaker 1: there because there's just these massive these masks adge cans waste, 793 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,399 Speaker 1: which is crazy because that explains why everyone falks there 794 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: because everybody needs garbage disposed. Okay, whether you're throwing away 795 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 1: your trash, where are the throwing women whatever? But really 796 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: it's the biggest party of the year and it's it's insane. 797 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,919 Speaker 1: It coincides with the super insane, and that's never happened before. 798 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 1: So like people like they always had this going on 799 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 1: and every year every year, and legitimately people fly from 800 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 1: all over the world to come to this event because 801 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,800 Speaker 1: this massive networking party, like everybody goes rampant. There's like 802 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: golf tournaments things like that. And now it's backing up 803 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,800 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl, which is a little bit alarming 804 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 1: because like a lot of people don't come out of 805 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,399 Speaker 1: waste management PA drinks so much. Like it's crazy. It's 806 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 1: back to back, But I knew I was on the 807 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 1: right track with the garbage, Oky, So are you going 808 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 1: to the actual game? So I have a ticket to 809 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: the game, but I'm actually going to be launching my 810 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 1: own brand on February. What kind of bread It's gonna 811 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 1: be around everything that I've kind of teased with motivational speaking, 812 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 1: giving back to Foundations UM and gonna be having an 813 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: event on the thirteenth. And so I my team that 814 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: works behind me is like, we've done so much to 815 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 1: get you, Like we've had a putt in crunch time 816 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 1: so much time. Have a little bit of fear of 817 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 1: not being able to get back on the thirteenth. So 818 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: I'm maybe skipping the game UM to make sure that 819 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 1: I can fly back in case we run into any issues. Kelsey, 820 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, but you never to find me. All right, Well, 821 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,319 Speaker 1: Kaylin Wilson, you're going, Wilson, You're going in the game? Yeah? 822 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: Is Dan going in the game. He'll be in Antarctica. 823 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,359 Speaker 1: This is the crazy, Like she said, ever, I will 824 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 1: not be going to this er. Well, I'll be in Antarctica. Yes, 825 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: this is his first trip to Antarctica, And like, is 826 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 1: how do you live there? Like do they have hotels 827 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 1: or is it like you live with scientists while you're there. No, 828 00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,879 Speaker 1: he's going to be on a boat the whole time, 829 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,320 Speaker 1: and then then they'll like go onto land and like 830 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,320 Speaker 1: take photos and then come back to the boat. And 831 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,319 Speaker 1: it's just straight up ice, Like you're basically on ice 832 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,919 Speaker 1: when you're on the continent. A question I think, So, Okay, 833 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 1: have you seen have you seen all over social media 834 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 1: about how just people are flocking to you? My other 835 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,800 Speaker 1: friend is there, and you know, do you know Candice 836 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 1: the facial facialist. Yes, yeah, she's there right now. Really 837 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 1: yeah yeah. And they are traveling through the drink passage, 838 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: which is like crazy. I saw that rough waters you 839 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: have to travel, and then there's rogue waves that hit 840 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: and like have killed people and like just like the 841 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 1: intense waves that are smashing into these like boats, and 842 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 1: people are just going there and I'm like, wow, I 843 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 1: could never are they going there because it's like and 844 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 1: near death experience. No, like nat Gio host trips, like 845 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:57,120 Speaker 1: it's a lot of retirees go really yeah, but Jean's 846 00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 1: going for like a photography trip. People are like sliding 847 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 1: on the cruise ship because you literally have to be 848 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,879 Speaker 1: in your room so bad, and there's like that. I'd 849 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,839 Speaker 1: have so much anxiety leading up to it of like, Okay, 850 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,400 Speaker 1: when we go through the drink passage, are we just 851 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,240 Speaker 1: gonna completely get smacked. Everyone's gonna be vomiting everywhere, like people, 852 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 1: I can't do that. That's not worth it for for me. 853 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 1: That's why I'll never go because of the passage. But 854 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: then Dean like whatever, he's obviously a daredevil. He also 855 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 1: went to Pakistan and Paul and Nepaul just there. It's 856 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 1: the most dangerous airport in the world and they just 857 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 1: had a plane crash the airport that he was at 858 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 1: like three months ago and everyone died, like how are 859 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,479 Speaker 1: you doing like such unsafe things and like, I swear 860 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: he's a cat with nine lives. Okay, So question for you, 861 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,320 Speaker 1: when you guys have kids, will you let him continuously 862 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 1: do these dangerous missions. It's so funny. If he listens 863 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 1: to this, we'll be like, you won't let me? Um 864 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 1: he doesn't like, Yeah, I support. Support is yeah, um no, 865 00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:58,759 Speaker 1: I think like get it out now and then when 866 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 1: we have kids, you just have to be safer, Like 867 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 1: our kids need a dad mhm. And like the stress 868 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 1: that it puts on you while like he's over here 869 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:13,320 Speaker 1: zip lining on a freaking thread of foss right, like 870 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 1: exactly you're taking care of the kids at home. Really 871 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 1: not fair. Well, when he was in the hall, he 872 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 1: was in the desert for like fourteen days without a phone. Yeah, 873 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 1: that's the scariest thing I know. He and we bought 874 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,240 Speaker 1: him a phone, a sat phone that like it's connected 875 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: to satellite so like you can call from anywhere. Um, 876 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,719 Speaker 1: and he forgot it. He's like landed in Pakistani. He's goes, 877 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 1: oh I forgot. There's a common denominator here. I'm forgetting 878 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:46,279 Speaker 1: things and not Galen. Alright, good girl chat guys. I 879 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed this at home and you felt like 880 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 1: you were around the table with your girlfriends. Let's see 881 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 1: this more often. I love a girl chat pod. Anything else. 882 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 1: Final words, you'll um, you need to find I need 883 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,840 Speaker 1: to come to check out your whenever we need to 884 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 1: come to come when it gets nicer. Yeah, I definitely 885 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 1: want to do that for sure. We would love to 886 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 1: have you. We always say we'll cover your trip if 887 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 1: you come to us. Hey, let's go, Me and Rachel 888 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 1: around once we get there. My girl Jill's there too. 889 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:26,320 Speaker 1: Let's go for sure? All right? See you guys. Follow 890 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 1: the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on I 891 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 1: Heart Radio, or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts