1 00:00:04,835 --> 00:00:22,275 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Trump's 2 00:00:22,515 --> 00:00:27,875 Speaker 1: newest threat quote, the bullets are flying and it will 3 00:00:27,915 --> 00:00:32,875 Speaker 1: only get worse. There were no bullets on Sunday other 4 00:00:32,955 --> 00:00:35,635 Speaker 1: than those fired by the Secret Service. There was no 5 00:00:35,835 --> 00:00:39,115 Speaker 1: line of sight for any shots at or near Trump. 6 00:00:39,595 --> 00:00:42,595 Speaker 1: There are thus far no charges other than gun possession, 7 00:00:42,635 --> 00:00:45,115 Speaker 1: and the reality of the case suggests there may never be. 8 00:00:45,755 --> 00:00:48,875 Speaker 1: The man who voted for Trump in twenty sixteen and 9 00:00:48,995 --> 00:00:52,115 Speaker 1: wanted to shoot or shoot at him in twenty twenty 10 00:00:52,155 --> 00:00:55,075 Speaker 1: four did not make even the slightest attempt to resist 11 00:00:55,115 --> 00:00:59,595 Speaker 1: a rest. Trump knows he was never in real danger. 12 00:01:00,195 --> 00:01:02,435 Speaker 1: In fact, he was genuinely put out that they would 13 00:01:02,475 --> 00:01:04,555 Speaker 1: not let him finish the round of golf he was 14 00:01:04,835 --> 00:01:08,595 Speaker 1: cheating through, when the would be almost sort of kind 15 00:01:08,595 --> 00:01:14,315 Speaker 1: of assassination attempt didn't actually take place. Trump's knowledge of 16 00:01:14,355 --> 00:01:19,155 Speaker 1: this only underscores that his statement yesterday is yet another 17 00:01:19,235 --> 00:01:23,635 Speaker 1: stochastic demand for violence to be directed against Vice President 18 00:01:23,675 --> 00:01:27,795 Speaker 1: Harris and other Democrats and anybody who doesn't like Trump, 19 00:01:28,355 --> 00:01:31,355 Speaker 1: and that the only brush with reality within that statement 20 00:01:31,475 --> 00:01:34,435 Speaker 1: is his demand that terrorists be deported from this country, 21 00:01:34,635 --> 00:01:37,515 Speaker 1: and Trump is the leading domestic terrorist in this nation, 22 00:01:37,755 --> 00:01:42,035 Speaker 1: and we should start with him. We have known for weeks, 23 00:01:42,675 --> 00:01:46,395 Speaker 1: we have known for months that even Trump has perceived 24 00:01:46,435 --> 00:01:49,915 Speaker 1: that his chances of victory via the ballot are decreasing daily, 25 00:01:50,355 --> 00:01:53,155 Speaker 1: and that violence and subversion are his only ways to 26 00:01:53,275 --> 00:01:57,195 Speaker 1: regain power and avoid dying in prison. And so this 27 00:01:57,315 --> 00:02:01,075 Speaker 1: all becomes another excuse for Trump to threaten this nation 28 00:02:01,675 --> 00:02:06,075 Speaker 1: and to exploit Sunday's events, events at a property he 29 00:02:06,235 --> 00:02:10,595 Speaker 1: owns and apparently provides next to no private security for 30 00:02:12,075 --> 00:02:15,115 Speaker 1: to treat this with sweeping statements to the nation's press, 31 00:02:16,035 --> 00:02:18,395 Speaker 1: which the nation's press is letting him get away with 32 00:02:19,035 --> 00:02:21,995 Speaker 1: out of fear of being accused of covering up something that, 33 00:02:22,355 --> 00:02:25,395 Speaker 1: if it happened five hundred yards from Joe Biden while 34 00:02:25,515 --> 00:02:27,715 Speaker 1: Joe Biden was at the White House, would have gotten 35 00:02:27,795 --> 00:02:31,115 Speaker 1: sober and serious coverage that would have by now faded 36 00:02:31,155 --> 00:02:34,115 Speaker 1: from the front pages because there was no real danger. 37 00:02:35,315 --> 00:02:40,595 Speaker 1: Trump unsurprisingly made as much danger up as he could 38 00:02:40,635 --> 00:02:44,995 Speaker 1: and dragged in Kamala Harris and immigration and the prosecutions 39 00:02:45,155 --> 00:02:49,475 Speaker 1: of him for his espionage and insurrection and other criminality. 40 00:02:49,555 --> 00:02:53,435 Speaker 1: Quote he believed the rhetoric of Biden and Harris, and 41 00:02:53,515 --> 00:02:56,915 Speaker 1: he acted on it. Trump first told Fox about the 42 00:02:57,075 --> 00:03:00,395 Speaker 1: non shooter. They do it with a combination of rhetoric 43 00:03:00,755 --> 00:03:04,315 Speaker 1: and lawsuits. They wrap me up in. These are the 44 00:03:04,355 --> 00:03:08,075 Speaker 1: thing that dangerous fools like the shooter listened to. That 45 00:03:08,435 --> 00:03:10,995 Speaker 1: is the rhetoric they listen to. And the same with 46 00:03:11,115 --> 00:03:14,915 Speaker 1: the first one. The first one, of course, the maga 47 00:03:14,955 --> 00:03:18,875 Speaker 1: gun nut who actually shot at Trump. Then Trump posted 48 00:03:18,955 --> 00:03:22,515 Speaker 1: quote the rhetoric lies, as exemplified by the false statements 49 00:03:22,555 --> 00:03:25,995 Speaker 1: made by Comrade Kamala Harris during the rigged and highly 50 00:03:26,035 --> 00:03:30,515 Speaker 1: partisan ABC debate. As an aside, I thought he won 51 00:03:30,555 --> 00:03:35,675 Speaker 1: the ABC debate? Is he saying otherwise? Quoting again, and 52 00:03:35,795 --> 00:03:40,035 Speaker 1: all of the ridiculous lawsuits specifically designed to inflict damage 53 00:03:40,035 --> 00:03:44,235 Speaker 1: on Joe's than Kamala's political opponent, me has taken politics 54 00:03:44,235 --> 00:03:47,115 Speaker 1: in our country to a whole new level of hatred, abuse, 55 00:03:47,195 --> 00:03:52,075 Speaker 1: and distrust because of this communist left rhetoric. The bullets 56 00:03:52,155 --> 00:03:56,635 Speaker 1: are flying and it will only get worse. Un quote. 57 00:03:58,155 --> 00:04:01,555 Speaker 1: Trump's threat then takes a curious left turn, which explains 58 00:04:01,555 --> 00:04:05,075 Speaker 1: what his next political strategy is. Steal your elf for 59 00:04:05,155 --> 00:04:09,035 Speaker 1: this quote, Allowing millions of people from places unknown to 60 00:04:09,235 --> 00:04:13,875 Speaker 1: invade and take over our country is an unpardonable sin. 61 00:04:16,155 --> 00:04:19,235 Speaker 1: Trump continued on the theme of deportation, and that segued 62 00:04:19,275 --> 00:04:22,195 Speaker 1: into a later statement in which it became clearer what 63 00:04:22,315 --> 00:04:23,955 Speaker 1: he is trying to do now. He is trying to 64 00:04:24,035 --> 00:04:29,435 Speaker 1: transfer the threat of the political violence he invoked into 65 00:04:29,475 --> 00:04:35,635 Speaker 1: some kind of threat against minority voters. The Poles, of course, 66 00:04:35,675 --> 00:04:39,835 Speaker 1: say he is hemorrhaging minority voters. Quote illegal migrants who 67 00:04:39,835 --> 00:04:43,675 Speaker 1: are pouring into our country in record numbers, are taking 68 00:04:43,715 --> 00:04:47,435 Speaker 1: the jobs away from black and Hispanic people who have 69 00:04:47,515 --> 00:04:52,115 Speaker 1: held them for years unquote the black jobs line again, 70 00:04:52,435 --> 00:04:57,395 Speaker 1: but now added to it the threat to Trump. So, 71 00:04:57,555 --> 00:05:00,715 Speaker 1: in what he would call weaving and what the rest 72 00:05:00,755 --> 00:05:05,595 Speaker 1: of us would call cynical and irrational exploitation, the environment 73 00:05:05,675 --> 00:05:08,875 Speaker 1: of political violence which Trump has been fomenting for a decade, 74 00:05:09,115 --> 00:05:14,995 Speaker 1: suddenly becomes an excuse for more prejudice and more suspicion, 75 00:05:15,675 --> 00:05:20,395 Speaker 1: and more violence directed at democratic leadership and at the 76 00:05:20,435 --> 00:05:24,115 Speaker 1: migrants already here, whom Trump has previously threatened to expel, 77 00:05:24,275 --> 00:05:28,275 Speaker 1: even the ones here legally. And suddenly we are back 78 00:05:28,275 --> 00:05:33,555 Speaker 1: in Springfield, Ohio, and Trump's gangs and militias and the 79 00:05:33,595 --> 00:05:36,555 Speaker 1: new excuse they have for their racism. Trump is now 80 00:05:36,595 --> 00:05:40,595 Speaker 1: saying that the migrants there being persecuted, being threatened, living 81 00:05:40,595 --> 00:05:43,795 Speaker 1: in a city turned upside down by the lies he 82 00:05:43,875 --> 00:05:47,635 Speaker 1: and JD. Vance and other Republicans have spread, they are, 83 00:05:47,715 --> 00:05:51,915 Speaker 1: in fact some kind of threat to him. The migrants 84 00:05:51,955 --> 00:05:56,475 Speaker 1: in Ohio are somehow connected to the attempts to shoot 85 00:05:56,595 --> 00:06:03,635 Speaker 1: at Trump, also connected to those threats defending the migrants 86 00:06:05,075 --> 00:06:10,555 Speaker 1: prosecuting Trump, the debate he lost last week. It is 87 00:06:10,675 --> 00:06:18,355 Speaker 1: one giant, delusional, paranoid demand by Trump to America to 88 00:06:18,555 --> 00:06:21,595 Speaker 1: let him do whatever he wants to, And at its 89 00:06:21,635 --> 00:06:26,555 Speaker 1: heart are those ten terrifying words. The bullets are flying, 90 00:06:26,715 --> 00:06:32,635 Speaker 1: and it will only get worse. Only getting worse, of course, 91 00:06:32,795 --> 00:06:38,075 Speaker 1: is exactly what Trump wants. If, like me, you are 92 00:06:38,115 --> 00:06:42,075 Speaker 1: of a certain age, perhaps the similarity has already occurred 93 00:06:42,115 --> 00:06:45,875 Speaker 1: to you between this madman and the mad man President 94 00:06:45,915 --> 00:06:49,395 Speaker 1: played by Martin Sheen in the Stephen King film The 95 00:06:49,475 --> 00:06:54,115 Speaker 1: Dead Zone. Trump, the bullets are flying. It will only 96 00:06:54,155 --> 00:07:00,595 Speaker 1: get worse, Martin Sheen, the missiles are flying. Hallelujah, hallelujah, 97 00:07:28,995 --> 00:07:32,875 Speaker 1: it gets worse. Trump and his running mate are now, 98 00:07:32,875 --> 00:07:36,075 Speaker 1: in fact playing a variant of good Cop Bad Cop, 99 00:07:36,195 --> 00:07:41,555 Speaker 1: called bad Cop Other bad Cop, leaving it for JD. 100 00:07:41,715 --> 00:07:44,355 Speaker 1: Vance to try to exploit this still further and sew 101 00:07:44,475 --> 00:07:47,995 Speaker 1: more death threats against the media for not selling the 102 00:07:48,115 --> 00:07:53,075 Speaker 1: narrative Trump wants. Vance complains about one newscast, in particular, 103 00:07:53,155 --> 00:07:58,315 Speaker 1: something on PBS he saw quote after spending thirty seconds 104 00:07:58,355 --> 00:08:01,995 Speaker 1: on the second assassination attempt on President Trump, they then 105 00:08:02,075 --> 00:08:04,995 Speaker 1: focused on the real danger me and President and Trump, 106 00:08:05,075 --> 00:08:08,835 Speaker 1: who are, according to them, personally responsible for bomb threats 107 00:08:08,875 --> 00:08:14,035 Speaker 1: against Springfield. Of course, I repeatedly condemned those threats. Donald 108 00:08:14,035 --> 00:08:16,835 Speaker 1: Trump and I are by their account, directly responsible for 109 00:08:16,915 --> 00:08:20,395 Speaker 1: bomb threats from foreign countries. Why because we had the 110 00:08:20,435 --> 00:08:24,035 Speaker 1: audacity to repeat what residents told us about the problems 111 00:08:24,035 --> 00:08:27,995 Speaker 1: in their town. Meanwhile, Harris Allies call for Trump to 112 00:08:28,075 --> 00:08:32,795 Speaker 1: be eliminated as the media publishes arguments that he deserved 113 00:08:32,835 --> 00:08:38,195 Speaker 1: to be shot. If you think Vance is hallucinating and 114 00:08:38,355 --> 00:08:40,355 Speaker 1: is way out on a limb here, he has in 115 00:08:40,395 --> 00:08:43,555 Speaker 1: fact only started to move out onto that limb. Quoting again, 116 00:08:43,635 --> 00:08:45,795 Speaker 1: it is one thing to say that pets are not 117 00:08:45,955 --> 00:08:49,035 Speaker 1: in fact being eaten, and another thing to say that 118 00:08:49,155 --> 00:08:53,355 Speaker 1: anyone who disagrees is trying to murder people. Dissent, even 119 00:08:53,475 --> 00:08:56,875 Speaker 1: vigorous descent, is a great tradition of the United States, 120 00:08:57,555 --> 00:09:03,915 Speaker 1: censorship is not unquote. Now we are approaching Vance's endpoint here. 121 00:09:04,395 --> 00:09:08,355 Speaker 1: You have to let him make up stories about pets 122 00:09:08,395 --> 00:09:12,875 Speaker 1: being eaten, otherwise you're not a real American. You have 123 00:09:12,915 --> 00:09:16,035 Speaker 1: to let him paint a giant bullseye on a town 124 00:09:16,195 --> 00:09:19,115 Speaker 1: in a state he putatively represents in the Senate of 125 00:09:19,155 --> 00:09:22,275 Speaker 1: the United States, because the only other option is to 126 00:09:22,355 --> 00:09:29,675 Speaker 1: support censorship, and JV says censorship means wait for it, quote, 127 00:09:30,515 --> 00:09:34,195 Speaker 1: the logic of censorship leads directly to one place. For 128 00:09:34,355 --> 00:09:37,755 Speaker 1: there is only one way to permanently silence a human being, 129 00:09:38,635 --> 00:09:46,395 Speaker 1: put a bullet in his brain unquote. So according to JV. Vance, 130 00:09:46,475 --> 00:09:48,795 Speaker 1: this election is now a clear choice between letting him 131 00:09:48,795 --> 00:09:52,675 Speaker 1: and Trump smear and slander and lie and endanger the 132 00:09:52,755 --> 00:09:58,595 Speaker 1: lives of and about anyone and anything they want, or 133 00:09:59,555 --> 00:10:05,795 Speaker 1: supporting bullets in the brain. And remember this insanity, this 134 00:10:06,075 --> 00:10:12,395 Speaker 1: cold bloodless, laser focused stupidity of JD. Vance has actually 135 00:10:12,555 --> 00:10:17,395 Speaker 1: overtaken the day to day lives of the people of Springfield, Ohio. 136 00:10:17,995 --> 00:10:21,995 Speaker 1: This is from the local newsroom. There of Spectrum News 137 00:10:22,795 --> 00:10:26,475 Speaker 1: quote facilities in Springfield, Ohio that have either been placed 138 00:10:26,515 --> 00:10:30,235 Speaker 1: on lockdown evacuated, closed, or searched at some point over 139 00:10:30,275 --> 00:10:33,835 Speaker 1: the last week due to threats. It coincides with Vance 140 00:10:33,915 --> 00:10:37,275 Speaker 1: and Trump, amplifying what local and state officials say are 141 00:10:37,395 --> 00:10:42,435 Speaker 1: baseless claims about Haitian migrants eating people's pets and local 142 00:10:42,555 --> 00:10:48,675 Speaker 1: geese in the community. Here's the list. One Springfield City Hall, 143 00:10:49,075 --> 00:10:55,675 Speaker 1: two Springfield's Bureau of Motor Vehicles, three, Springfield's Drivers Exam Station. Four, 144 00:10:56,035 --> 00:11:02,435 Speaker 1: Springfield's Local Ohio Licensed Bureau, five Springview Government Center. Six 145 00:11:02,515 --> 00:11:04,995 Speaker 1: Clark County Department of Job and Family Service This is 146 00:11:05,195 --> 00:11:08,835 Speaker 1: seven Clark County Common Please Court, eight Clark County Board 147 00:11:08,835 --> 00:11:12,595 Speaker 1: of Elections, nine Clark County Juvenile Court. Ten A. B. 148 00:11:12,835 --> 00:11:18,915 Speaker 1: Graham Building, eleven Springfield Academy of Excellence, twelve, Fulton Elementary School, thirteen, 149 00:11:19,075 --> 00:11:24,275 Speaker 1: Parren Woods Elementary School fourteen, snow Hill Elementary School fifteen, 150 00:11:24,395 --> 00:11:29,755 Speaker 1: Roosevelt Middle School sixteen, Kettering Health Springfield seventeen, Mercy Health 151 00:11:29,795 --> 00:11:37,195 Speaker 1: Springfield Regional Medical Center eighteen, Wittenberg University nineteen, Clark State College, twenty, 152 00:11:37,315 --> 00:11:42,835 Speaker 1: Simon Kenton Elementary School, twenty one Kenwood Elementary School. And 153 00:11:42,915 --> 00:11:47,355 Speaker 1: he adds Springfield's annual culture Fest has been canceled over 154 00:11:47,435 --> 00:11:56,195 Speaker 1: security concerns and note next on the Trumpian schedule is Aurora, Colorado, 155 00:11:56,915 --> 00:12:00,635 Speaker 1: where even before last week's debate, Trump was claiming immigrant 156 00:12:00,675 --> 00:12:04,555 Speaker 1: gangs were quote taking over buildings, They're going in violently. 157 00:12:05,635 --> 00:12:08,315 Speaker 1: It was of Aurora that he had said earlier, and 158 00:12:08,435 --> 00:12:12,155 Speaker 1: getting them out will be a bloody story. The New 159 00:12:12,235 --> 00:12:15,515 Speaker 1: York Times yesterday quoted what has actually happened in Aurora. 160 00:12:16,195 --> 00:12:18,915 Speaker 1: As far back as May twenty twenty three, Aurora officials 161 00:12:18,955 --> 00:12:21,475 Speaker 1: have been trying to force an out of state landlord 162 00:12:21,955 --> 00:12:26,915 Speaker 1: to fix up three blighted apartment complexes in the downtrodden 163 00:12:26,995 --> 00:12:31,035 Speaker 1: East Colfax Corridor, which connects the cities of Denver and Aurora. 164 00:12:31,635 --> 00:12:36,435 Speaker 1: In July twenty twenty four, the landlord, CBZ Management, which 165 00:12:36,435 --> 00:12:39,995 Speaker 1: says it is based in Colorado and Brooklyn, offered a 166 00:12:40,035 --> 00:12:44,435 Speaker 1: new argument for Wyatt couldn't repair the buildings Venezuelan gangs 167 00:12:44,435 --> 00:12:47,275 Speaker 1: had taken over and the property managers had been forced 168 00:12:47,315 --> 00:12:54,155 Speaker 1: to flee. On August fifth, a public relations agent, Sarah Latman, 169 00:12:54,635 --> 00:12:59,755 Speaker 1: hired by CBZ, pitched a quote tip to the local 170 00:12:59,795 --> 00:13:03,555 Speaker 1: Fox television network affiliate in Denver, quote an apartment building 171 00:13:03,635 --> 00:13:06,515 Speaker 1: and its owners in Aurora, Colorado, have become the most 172 00:13:06,515 --> 00:13:11,235 Speaker 1: recent victims of the Venezuelan gang trand de Arraguas violence, 173 00:13:11,555 --> 00:13:15,315 Speaker 1: which has taken over several communities in the Denver area. 174 00:13:19,835 --> 00:13:24,715 Speaker 1: None of this is true. No part of Colorado is 175 00:13:24,795 --> 00:13:30,915 Speaker 1: under the control of anybody but bad landlords. And there 176 00:13:31,035 --> 00:13:34,715 Speaker 1: is criminality in Aurora, Colorado, and it is not gangs. 177 00:13:36,035 --> 00:13:40,395 Speaker 1: It is a bunch of landlords and their pr person, 178 00:13:41,075 --> 00:13:57,635 Speaker 1: Sarah Latman. And then there's the Leon theory Elon Musk 179 00:13:57,715 --> 00:14:00,955 Speaker 1: to you, Leon to Trump, and the greatest rationalization of 180 00:14:00,955 --> 00:14:04,955 Speaker 1: them all, it's the When I say it, everybody knows 181 00:14:05,115 --> 00:14:09,115 Speaker 1: I'm joking. When you say it, it's the deep state 182 00:14:09,235 --> 00:14:15,555 Speaker 1: trying to murder our president. Sometime early Sunday evening, somebody 183 00:14:15,595 --> 00:14:21,155 Speaker 1: called dodge Dog Designer, one of these crypto idiots, tweeted 184 00:14:21,435 --> 00:14:25,675 Speaker 1: why they want to kill Donald Trump. Elon, of course, 185 00:14:26,155 --> 00:14:29,875 Speaker 1: then retweeted this, adding, and no one is even trying 186 00:14:29,915 --> 00:14:36,275 Speaker 1: to assassinate Biden slash Kamala with an emoji. It's his 187 00:14:36,395 --> 00:14:38,875 Speaker 1: site and he can put out what he wants. But frankly, 188 00:14:38,955 --> 00:14:41,475 Speaker 1: that is the kind of thing that if you wrote 189 00:14:41,475 --> 00:14:44,315 Speaker 1: it in public, the Secret Service would be asking for 190 00:14:44,315 --> 00:14:47,115 Speaker 1: an appointment to see you. Within twenty four hours, and 191 00:14:47,195 --> 00:14:50,275 Speaker 1: they should be asking to see what Elon Musk meant 192 00:14:50,275 --> 00:14:53,195 Speaker 1: by this, since he is running a super pack for Trump, 193 00:14:53,715 --> 00:14:56,875 Speaker 1: and he has expressed violence before, and he is a 194 00:14:56,955 --> 00:15:01,155 Speaker 1: known drug user, and most importantly, he has government contracts 195 00:15:01,515 --> 00:15:04,475 Speaker 1: and security clearances, none of which should continue beyond this. 196 00:15:05,555 --> 00:15:08,515 Speaker 1: In point of fact, he should have been imprisoned by 197 00:15:08,675 --> 00:15:14,275 Speaker 1: Monday morning, but he wasn't. Musk deleted this tweet sometime 198 00:15:14,355 --> 00:15:17,795 Speaker 1: early Monday without making any comment nor an explanation other 199 00:15:17,875 --> 00:15:20,395 Speaker 1: than something about how he should know by now that 200 00:15:20,475 --> 00:15:22,515 Speaker 1: if he says something and against a bunch of laughs 201 00:15:22,515 --> 00:15:25,835 Speaker 1: in the room, that won't necessarily translate to this lousy 202 00:15:25,835 --> 00:15:30,995 Speaker 1: website which he owns and has made lousy. There was 203 00:15:30,995 --> 00:15:34,395 Speaker 1: something that obscured or was obscured by Elon Musk that 204 00:15:34,475 --> 00:15:38,395 Speaker 1: was even worse and more directly addresses this issue of 205 00:15:38,835 --> 00:15:43,275 Speaker 1: when I say it, it's political commentary, When you say it, 206 00:15:43,275 --> 00:15:49,355 Speaker 1: it's a threat against Trump, and you should be shot, arrested, jailed, castrated, 207 00:15:49,395 --> 00:15:51,595 Speaker 1: whatever it is they feel like doing that day, or 208 00:15:52,115 --> 00:15:55,475 Speaker 1: have your town turned into the focal point of every 209 00:15:55,595 --> 00:16:01,115 Speaker 1: idiot and every racist and every backdoor bomber in the world. 210 00:16:02,395 --> 00:16:05,875 Speaker 1: This is from the Libertarian part of New Hampshire. At 211 00:16:05,955 --> 00:16:09,155 Speaker 1: least it's their account they claim to be the Libertarian 212 00:16:09,195 --> 00:16:12,115 Speaker 1: Party of New Hampshire. Libertarian is just another word for 213 00:16:12,155 --> 00:16:16,515 Speaker 1: trumpest of course, somebody wrote I disagree with the assault 214 00:16:16,555 --> 00:16:20,435 Speaker 1: weapons band, but maybe save the threatening rhetoric a and 215 00:16:20,595 --> 00:16:24,675 Speaker 1: they retweeted that with this message quote anyone who murders 216 00:16:24,795 --> 00:16:30,315 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris would be an American hero at LPNH Libertarian 217 00:16:30,355 --> 00:16:33,075 Speaker 1: Party of New Hampshire. If they're not the Libertarian Party 218 00:16:33,075 --> 00:16:36,235 Speaker 1: of New Hampshire, they probably should have denied the existence 219 00:16:36,275 --> 00:16:38,475 Speaker 1: of this and gotten the blue check mark removed from 220 00:16:38,475 --> 00:16:42,275 Speaker 1: the account using that name. Anyone who murders Kamala Harris 221 00:16:42,275 --> 00:16:44,875 Speaker 1: would be an American hero. Well, I'm sure they just 222 00:16:44,955 --> 00:16:46,995 Speaker 1: meant that as a metaphor it well, pray maybe not. 223 00:16:47,555 --> 00:16:52,115 Speaker 1: Later on that tweet vanished. We deleted a tweet read 224 00:16:52,155 --> 00:16:54,635 Speaker 1: a subsequent tweet because we don't want to break the 225 00:16:54,755 --> 00:16:58,395 Speaker 1: terms of this website we agreed to. It's a shame that, 226 00:16:58,475 --> 00:17:02,915 Speaker 1: even on a free speech website, that libertarians cannot speak freely. 227 00:17:03,355 --> 00:17:08,475 Speaker 1: Libertarians are truly the most oppressed minority. Yes, when you 228 00:17:08,515 --> 00:17:12,315 Speaker 1: advocate in a stochastic manner, the murder of the Vice 229 00:17:12,355 --> 00:17:16,155 Speaker 1: President of the United States, that is somehow a violation 230 00:17:16,515 --> 00:17:21,595 Speaker 1: of your rights. What's the distance between what Elon Musk 231 00:17:21,675 --> 00:17:24,995 Speaker 1: wrote and what this Libertarian Party of New Hampshire wrote. 232 00:17:25,555 --> 00:17:28,315 Speaker 1: And no one is even trying to assassinate Biden Kamala 233 00:17:28,635 --> 00:17:31,195 Speaker 1: Anyone who murders Kamala Harris would be an American hero. 234 00:17:31,515 --> 00:17:35,435 Speaker 1: My argument would be these are adjacent and somebody from 235 00:17:35,475 --> 00:17:38,315 Speaker 1: the Libertarian Party of New Hampshire who's responsible for their 236 00:17:38,315 --> 00:17:41,235 Speaker 1: social media should be in jail next to Elon Musk. 237 00:17:42,075 --> 00:17:45,875 Speaker 1: Musk minimally needs to have his security clearance revoked. It 238 00:17:45,915 --> 00:17:47,355 Speaker 1: would be nice if we could get him out of 239 00:17:47,355 --> 00:17:50,595 Speaker 1: this country. I don't think we can do that. Apparently 240 00:17:50,635 --> 00:17:55,275 Speaker 1: we have people in space who need his cyber truck 241 00:17:55,395 --> 00:17:58,715 Speaker 1: or something to get home because we went to use 242 00:17:58,835 --> 00:18:01,315 Speaker 1: a Boeing Craft to get them home, and the Boeing 243 00:18:01,355 --> 00:18:05,355 Speaker 1: craft apparently cannot get out of the hangar. There's more 244 00:18:05,395 --> 00:18:07,995 Speaker 1: than this, of course, it's not just the tech pros 245 00:18:08,155 --> 00:18:11,715 Speaker 1: and the Libertarians who are doing this. Scott Perry, who 246 00:18:11,715 --> 00:18:14,915 Speaker 1: I believe has his phone back finally after January sixth, 247 00:18:14,915 --> 00:18:18,475 Speaker 1: then whatever his role was in the attempted coup said 248 00:18:18,555 --> 00:18:21,595 Speaker 1: yesterday that nobody is trying to assassinate Joe Biden. They 249 00:18:21,635 --> 00:18:24,315 Speaker 1: can't get to his bedroom to find him sleeping. But 250 00:18:24,395 --> 00:18:28,035 Speaker 1: President Trump is out there and they're actively trying to 251 00:18:28,075 --> 00:18:31,515 Speaker 1: assassinate him. The Secret Service needs to take actions that 252 00:18:31,555 --> 00:18:35,355 Speaker 1: are concurrent with the risk on the ground. Scott Perry, 253 00:18:35,395 --> 00:18:39,115 Speaker 1: Congressman of Pennsylvania. In other words, he's saying, takes security 254 00:18:39,635 --> 00:18:42,595 Speaker 1: from Joe Biden and assign it to Donald Trump so 255 00:18:42,635 --> 00:18:44,995 Speaker 1: he can golf whenever he wants to and not have 256 00:18:45,035 --> 00:18:48,115 Speaker 1: the risk of having somebody from four hundred feet away 257 00:18:48,155 --> 00:18:53,555 Speaker 1: try to shoot him from a public street. Representative Laurel 258 00:18:53,635 --> 00:18:57,395 Speaker 1: Lee of Florida basically insisted that Democrats must stop campaigning 259 00:18:57,995 --> 00:19:01,115 Speaker 1: on all the bad things Trump does and says and threatens, 260 00:19:01,155 --> 00:19:03,835 Speaker 1: because when the truth like that is revealed, it makes 261 00:19:03,915 --> 00:19:06,515 Speaker 1: people mad might try to take a shot at Trump. 262 00:19:07,075 --> 00:19:10,395 Speaker 1: One might suggest Representative Lee that perhaps it is mister 263 00:19:10,395 --> 00:19:13,075 Speaker 1: Trump who should not be saying these things, mister Trump 264 00:19:13,115 --> 00:19:15,995 Speaker 1: who should not have been invoking the question of violence 265 00:19:16,035 --> 00:19:20,075 Speaker 1: and politically violent activity and rhetoric. But of course that 266 00:19:20,195 --> 00:19:23,795 Speaker 1: ship sailed literally in a previous decade, and the average 267 00:19:23,795 --> 00:19:27,795 Speaker 1: congress person representing the Republican Party is a flaming idiot 268 00:19:27,835 --> 00:19:31,395 Speaker 1: like Laurel Lee. And of course, again I'll circle back 269 00:19:31,435 --> 00:19:36,395 Speaker 1: to the Trump quote himself. Their rhetoric is causing me 270 00:19:36,795 --> 00:19:42,395 Speaker 1: to be shot at. In short, the one through line 271 00:19:42,475 --> 00:19:45,195 Speaker 1: in all of this, from Elon Musk to the Libertarians, 272 00:19:45,235 --> 00:19:48,635 Speaker 1: to Scott Perry to Laurel Lee is I never thought 273 00:19:48,635 --> 00:19:52,355 Speaker 1: the leopard would eat my face. See, I'm gonna let 274 00:19:52,395 --> 00:19:54,355 Speaker 1: you in on two secrets, one of which you already 275 00:19:54,395 --> 00:19:57,995 Speaker 1: know and the other which you probably don't. About political violence. 276 00:19:58,475 --> 00:20:00,995 Speaker 1: Number one, we have talked about the peaceful transfer of 277 00:20:01,075 --> 00:20:04,075 Speaker 1: power in this country as if it were built into 278 00:20:04,075 --> 00:20:07,715 Speaker 1: the Constitute, and it had been observed for every one 279 00:20:07,875 --> 00:20:11,435 Speaker 1: of our presidential transfers since the first of them, and 280 00:20:11,515 --> 00:20:15,075 Speaker 1: obviously it has not. The Civil War is a strong 281 00:20:15,275 --> 00:20:18,235 Speaker 1: argument against the idea that we have had peaceful transfers 282 00:20:18,275 --> 00:20:21,275 Speaker 1: of power. The name Kennedy would be the same thing. 283 00:20:22,955 --> 00:20:26,795 Speaker 1: In any event, You cannot open Pandora's box as Trump 284 00:20:26,875 --> 00:20:30,035 Speaker 1: has and then pick the bock up, shaken it, and 285 00:20:30,395 --> 00:20:35,195 Speaker 1: let its contents spill out everywhere, and direct the evils 286 00:20:35,315 --> 00:20:39,755 Speaker 1: contained within the mythological Pandora's box. Direct those evils to 287 00:20:39,955 --> 00:20:45,075 Speaker 1: leave you alone. Once you open the box, it can 288 00:20:45,115 --> 00:20:50,595 Speaker 1: go anywhere. I have no desire to see politicians killed. 289 00:20:50,595 --> 00:20:53,755 Speaker 1: I have no desire to see anyone killed, and particularly 290 00:20:53,795 --> 00:20:56,235 Speaker 1: have no desire for any gun violence in this country. 291 00:20:57,115 --> 00:21:02,555 Speaker 1: But guess what happens. Leopards box, open box, leopards everywhere. 292 00:21:02,755 --> 00:21:08,275 Speaker 1: Leopards eat faces. Trump has a face under all the makeup. 293 00:21:10,235 --> 00:21:12,915 Speaker 1: Now the secret that you probably are not aware of. 294 00:21:13,915 --> 00:21:19,715 Speaker 1: You cannot ultimately stop political violence. You can try, you 295 00:21:19,755 --> 00:21:22,995 Speaker 1: can minimize it. We have done an excellent job, in fact, 296 00:21:23,035 --> 00:21:26,235 Speaker 1: certainly since well let's see how many times was the 297 00:21:26,275 --> 00:21:29,755 Speaker 1: Clinton White House shot at? How many times the threats 298 00:21:29,795 --> 00:21:35,315 Speaker 1: against Obama and Bush and Biden and Trump? And well, okay, 299 00:21:35,315 --> 00:21:36,955 Speaker 1: we haven't done that good a job of it. But 300 00:21:37,075 --> 00:21:39,315 Speaker 1: on the other hand, we haven't had one killed since 301 00:21:39,395 --> 00:21:46,155 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three, sixty one years without a fatality. But 302 00:21:46,195 --> 00:21:49,035 Speaker 1: you cannot stop it ultimately. As has been said many times, 303 00:21:49,115 --> 00:21:53,315 Speaker 1: if a madman wants to surrender their own life in 304 00:21:53,355 --> 00:21:56,275 Speaker 1: the attempt to take that of a politicians, it will 305 00:21:56,275 --> 00:21:59,355 Speaker 1: probably happen, not always, and there are ways to minimize 306 00:21:59,395 --> 00:22:03,515 Speaker 1: that too. But I had a harrowing experience with this, 307 00:22:03,595 --> 00:22:05,915 Speaker 1: and I've been dealing with violence or the threat of 308 00:22:05,955 --> 00:22:09,555 Speaker 1: it now for literally twenty six years. My first experience 309 00:22:09,555 --> 00:22:13,835 Speaker 1: with it dates back to nineteen ninety eight. Minor threats, letters, 310 00:22:13,915 --> 00:22:17,995 Speaker 1: anonymous letters, warnings, threats, et cetera, none of which was 311 00:22:18,035 --> 00:22:25,195 Speaker 1: ever dealt with very seriously because it wasn't that kind 312 00:22:25,275 --> 00:22:28,635 Speaker 1: of threat. And you cannot live your life that way. 313 00:22:29,115 --> 00:22:31,795 Speaker 1: You cannot live your life inside a bubble. If you 314 00:22:31,875 --> 00:22:36,955 Speaker 1: cannot run the risk, get out of the risk area. 315 00:22:38,355 --> 00:22:41,835 Speaker 1: But I've dealt with this as recently as twenty nineteen, 316 00:22:42,515 --> 00:22:46,155 Speaker 1: and I've had the simple ones, idiots in public telling 317 00:22:46,155 --> 00:22:50,155 Speaker 1: me to kill myself, and people leaving threatening notes and 318 00:22:50,355 --> 00:22:55,235 Speaker 1: sending notes to old addresses. But in twenty nineteen, I 319 00:22:55,275 --> 00:22:57,515 Speaker 1: got one of those serious ones where the FBI called 320 00:22:57,515 --> 00:23:00,795 Speaker 1: me up and said, you're in Saysar Saox computer. We've 321 00:23:00,835 --> 00:23:05,035 Speaker 1: finally done unloading everything in Saysar Sayox computer. And you 322 00:23:05,115 --> 00:23:09,795 Speaker 1: apparently were in his second wave Sezar Sayak, the magabomber, 323 00:23:09,875 --> 00:23:12,435 Speaker 1: the guy with the drawn on hair and the van 324 00:23:12,515 --> 00:23:14,995 Speaker 1: in which every inch of the outside of this van 325 00:23:15,115 --> 00:23:17,515 Speaker 1: was covered in a trump sticker or something like it, 326 00:23:18,115 --> 00:23:22,075 Speaker 1: who sent pipe bombs to a dozen Democrats and legislators 327 00:23:22,115 --> 00:23:25,555 Speaker 1: and all kinds of liberals. Well, if he had not 328 00:23:25,835 --> 00:23:28,395 Speaker 1: gotten caught and been sent to prison, I was on 329 00:23:28,435 --> 00:23:32,555 Speaker 1: the second list. But principally, and this is back to 330 00:23:32,595 --> 00:23:34,995 Speaker 1: the point of the secret you probably are not aware of, 331 00:23:35,595 --> 00:23:38,675 Speaker 1: there was two thousand and six. I've told many times 332 00:23:38,675 --> 00:23:41,395 Speaker 1: the story of the guy who lived in his mother's 333 00:23:41,435 --> 00:23:45,315 Speaker 1: basement in southern California who kept sending me threatening letters 334 00:23:45,355 --> 00:23:49,635 Speaker 1: filled with fake anthrax. And obviously it was fake anthrax. 335 00:23:49,675 --> 00:23:52,155 Speaker 1: The experts who deal with real anthrax in the mail, 336 00:23:52,235 --> 00:23:54,955 Speaker 1: the one we know of, apparently killed himself because he 337 00:23:54,955 --> 00:23:57,835 Speaker 1: didn't do it right. It's not an easy fix. It's 338 00:23:57,875 --> 00:24:01,675 Speaker 1: not a self addressed, stamped envelope full of anthras, so 339 00:24:01,755 --> 00:24:04,155 Speaker 1: it probably was not anthrax. But I could not make 340 00:24:04,195 --> 00:24:06,635 Speaker 1: that decision on behalf of everybody else who lived in 341 00:24:06,675 --> 00:24:10,875 Speaker 1: my apartment building, especially the surprisingly large number of ninety 342 00:24:10,875 --> 00:24:12,875 Speaker 1: five year old women who lived in that building. So 343 00:24:12,955 --> 00:24:15,075 Speaker 1: I got the authorities involved, and by the time of 344 00:24:15,115 --> 00:24:18,115 Speaker 1: the fourth letter, I knew them all by their first names, 345 00:24:18,515 --> 00:24:21,795 Speaker 1: and I used to make them call me up with updates, 346 00:24:21,835 --> 00:24:24,035 Speaker 1: and I would call them with updates, And then came 347 00:24:24,435 --> 00:24:28,235 Speaker 1: finally a letter to my office at MSNBC, and the 348 00:24:28,315 --> 00:24:33,835 Speaker 1: giveaway was the return address was J Leno, NBC Burbank, California, 349 00:24:34,555 --> 00:24:38,155 Speaker 1: J period Leno. Well, that's not how Jay Leno writes 350 00:24:38,155 --> 00:24:41,995 Speaker 1: his name. Why would you abbreviate your name Jay as 351 00:24:42,035 --> 00:24:45,915 Speaker 1: a J period. If your name is J, it's J. Also, 352 00:24:46,515 --> 00:24:50,195 Speaker 1: there was postage on this. I knew Jay Leno for 353 00:24:50,275 --> 00:24:53,035 Speaker 1: nearly the whole run of his career at NBC on 354 00:24:53,075 --> 00:24:55,195 Speaker 1: the Tonight Show, and I know very well that Jay 355 00:24:55,275 --> 00:24:57,435 Speaker 1: Leno would never spend a dollar twenty five to send 356 00:24:57,475 --> 00:24:59,835 Speaker 1: me a letter, not when he could put it in 357 00:24:59,875 --> 00:25:02,795 Speaker 1: an interoffice pouch and save himself a dollar twenty five 358 00:25:04,275 --> 00:25:07,315 Speaker 1: in anyay event. When I saw this, I knew immediately 359 00:25:07,355 --> 00:25:12,195 Speaker 1: that it probably was from my correspondent in southern California 360 00:25:12,275 --> 00:25:15,115 Speaker 1: sending me the fake anthrax. And so I called one 361 00:25:15,115 --> 00:25:17,315 Speaker 1: of the agents at the FBI. I went, hey, I 362 00:25:17,315 --> 00:25:19,475 Speaker 1: got another one, but it's here in secaucas Oh, okay, 363 00:25:19,555 --> 00:25:21,635 Speaker 1: we'll be right over. What do I do here? We 364 00:25:21,675 --> 00:25:23,875 Speaker 1: had never gotten one here before? Well, tell whoever is 365 00:25:23,915 --> 00:25:27,715 Speaker 1: in charge of the plant of the building. And if 366 00:25:27,755 --> 00:25:31,675 Speaker 1: the small chance that it's actually anthrax, NBC irradiates all 367 00:25:31,715 --> 00:25:34,235 Speaker 1: the mail. Remember from getting the antrax two thousand and 368 00:25:34,235 --> 00:25:37,515 Speaker 1: one it's only five years ago. They're still irradiating all 369 00:25:37,555 --> 00:25:39,835 Speaker 1: the mail. There's no danger. Well, of course I called 370 00:25:39,875 --> 00:25:43,955 Speaker 1: the guy who was running secaucus for NBC News for MSNBC, 371 00:25:45,635 --> 00:25:49,035 Speaker 1: and when I told him what had happened, he went 372 00:25:49,115 --> 00:25:54,115 Speaker 1: into a screaming panic. His solution to this was to 373 00:25:54,235 --> 00:25:57,115 Speaker 1: insist that I stay in my office, in my little 374 00:25:57,155 --> 00:26:01,075 Speaker 1: cubicle and not leave. And I said, well, what's the 375 00:26:01,195 --> 00:26:04,275 Speaker 1: danger here? You you irradiated all of this. The mail's 376 00:26:04,275 --> 00:26:07,715 Speaker 1: taken to separate facility, and everything is checked, and there's 377 00:26:07,755 --> 00:26:10,075 Speaker 1: no threat whatsoever. I just wanted you to know that 378 00:26:10,155 --> 00:26:12,555 Speaker 1: this was here, and the FBI guys are coming over, 379 00:26:12,595 --> 00:26:15,195 Speaker 1: so nobody should be surprised. There's no threat to this. 380 00:26:15,835 --> 00:26:20,075 Speaker 1: He looked like, I don't know quite how to describe it. 381 00:26:20,435 --> 00:26:23,395 Speaker 1: He looked like he had just eaten some anthras. Is 382 00:26:23,395 --> 00:26:25,315 Speaker 1: the only way I can possibly describe it to you. 383 00:26:26,795 --> 00:26:30,595 Speaker 1: Sure Enough, guess what I found out that day. They 384 00:26:30,635 --> 00:26:34,875 Speaker 1: did not irradiate every letter in coming to MSNBC or 385 00:26:34,875 --> 00:26:38,475 Speaker 1: for that matter, NBC News. They simply said that, thinking 386 00:26:38,515 --> 00:26:41,635 Speaker 1: that that would discourage people from sending actual anthrax. Thinking 387 00:26:41,715 --> 00:26:44,795 Speaker 1: while I went to all this trouble of mailing anthrax 388 00:26:44,875 --> 00:26:47,475 Speaker 1: and not killing myself, And here it is going to 389 00:26:47,515 --> 00:26:51,475 Speaker 1: be of no damaging value to me. By the time 390 00:26:51,475 --> 00:26:55,195 Speaker 1: it gets there, it will have spoiled or NBC will 391 00:26:55,195 --> 00:27:00,315 Speaker 1: have spoiled it through its irradiation machines. I don't know 392 00:27:00,395 --> 00:27:02,795 Speaker 1: how universal this is, but I don't even know if 393 00:27:02,795 --> 00:27:07,955 Speaker 1: there are irradiation machines that could neutralize anthrax or any 394 00:27:07,995 --> 00:27:11,635 Speaker 1: other biological weapon, let alone something like a pipe bomb. 395 00:27:12,675 --> 00:27:14,835 Speaker 1: But the look on the guy who was running the 396 00:27:14,875 --> 00:27:18,715 Speaker 1: Secaucus plan for NBC told me all I needed to know. 397 00:27:20,555 --> 00:27:24,315 Speaker 1: The problem with political violence is not just that it 398 00:27:24,475 --> 00:27:29,075 Speaker 1: is a tool to change history, not that it risks 399 00:27:29,155 --> 00:27:32,795 Speaker 1: the lives of the people who are the potential victims, 400 00:27:33,435 --> 00:27:38,595 Speaker 1: both the targets and the ones who are stochastically urged 401 00:27:38,715 --> 00:27:41,555 Speaker 1: to take political violence into their own hands, as Trump 402 00:27:41,555 --> 00:27:46,235 Speaker 1: has been doing NonStop since twenty fifteen. It's not just that. 403 00:27:46,955 --> 00:27:49,555 Speaker 1: On a bigger level, it is what I mentioned before, 404 00:27:49,675 --> 00:27:54,275 Speaker 1: the Pandora's box effect. You never know what the next 405 00:27:54,475 --> 00:27:56,715 Speaker 1: step is going to be or what will happen. The 406 00:27:56,795 --> 00:28:02,475 Speaker 1: unintended consequences rule comes into play immediately. There was, in fact, 407 00:28:02,835 --> 00:28:06,395 Speaker 1: nothing to protect any of us at NBC News except 408 00:28:06,435 --> 00:28:09,315 Speaker 1: the illusion. I don't know to what degree this is 409 00:28:09,315 --> 00:28:11,795 Speaker 1: true of the Secret Service. I think we found out 410 00:28:11,795 --> 00:28:15,475 Speaker 1: around January sixth. Then in my commentaries of twenty twenty 411 00:28:15,515 --> 00:28:17,875 Speaker 1: two and twenty twenty three, you may recall I urge 412 00:28:17,915 --> 00:28:20,915 Speaker 1: President Biden to fire the Secret Service and start all 413 00:28:20,955 --> 00:28:22,875 Speaker 1: over again, because they were not doing a very good 414 00:28:22,955 --> 00:28:26,395 Speaker 1: job of protecting him. This might be the only thing 415 00:28:26,475 --> 00:28:28,715 Speaker 1: we all agree on. The Secret Service has not been 416 00:28:28,715 --> 00:28:32,675 Speaker 1: doing its job, perhaps for several different presidencies. But this 417 00:28:32,835 --> 00:28:37,355 Speaker 1: rages the larger question exactly what can they do? If 418 00:28:37,355 --> 00:28:39,675 Speaker 1: you own the golf course, and the golf course is 419 00:28:39,715 --> 00:28:42,315 Speaker 1: out there in public in Florida, how much of it 420 00:28:42,355 --> 00:28:45,155 Speaker 1: can you protect? How much of it can you ring 421 00:28:45,235 --> 00:28:48,915 Speaker 1: with agents? How many agents would you need thirty thousand 422 00:28:49,595 --> 00:28:55,915 Speaker 1: to completely cover a place like a golf course. And 423 00:28:55,995 --> 00:28:59,315 Speaker 1: here's the end part of this story. Hopefully the laugh 424 00:28:59,395 --> 00:29:01,755 Speaker 1: you can take with you, A dark and bitter laugh, 425 00:29:01,835 --> 00:29:06,195 Speaker 1: I assure you, but it is a laugh. The response 426 00:29:06,555 --> 00:29:09,435 Speaker 1: in two thousand and six, when the letter which did 427 00:29:09,435 --> 00:29:12,955 Speaker 1: not actually contain fake anthrax, but did contain the means 428 00:29:12,955 --> 00:29:15,715 Speaker 1: by which we finally identified this guy and he wound 429 00:29:15,795 --> 00:29:18,555 Speaker 1: up going to prison as a result, the envelope itself 430 00:29:18,675 --> 00:29:23,315 Speaker 1: with a barcode on it. That envelope produced this response 431 00:29:23,635 --> 00:29:27,955 Speaker 1: from MSNBC to protect all of us. The guy told 432 00:29:27,955 --> 00:29:31,235 Speaker 1: me to stay in my office and close the door 433 00:29:31,715 --> 00:29:34,835 Speaker 1: and he would be right back with a protective device. 434 00:29:35,795 --> 00:29:39,315 Speaker 1: Within ninety seconds, he was back outside my clear sea 435 00:29:39,395 --> 00:29:45,395 Speaker 1: through door and there was his protective device, bright orange, 436 00:29:45,875 --> 00:29:53,795 Speaker 1: extra large traffic cone. We all felt safe after that. 437 00:29:59,235 --> 00:30:04,075 Speaker 1: Also of interest, here the good news. Democratic presidential nomine 438 00:30:04,115 --> 00:30:08,635 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, according to USA Today, narrowly leads Trump in 439 00:30:08,675 --> 00:30:13,235 Speaker 1: the critical battleground state of Pennsylvania and in two of 440 00:30:13,275 --> 00:30:17,075 Speaker 1: the state's key bell Weather counties. According to a trio 441 00:30:17,675 --> 00:30:22,395 Speaker 1: of exclusive USA Today Suffolk University polls taken after the debate, 442 00:30:22,795 --> 00:30:29,435 Speaker 1: the bounce is here and strong Harris leads Trump the 443 00:30:29,475 --> 00:30:33,555 Speaker 1: Republican nominee forty nine forty six, five hundred likely Pennsylvania 444 00:30:33,595 --> 00:30:36,795 Speaker 1: voters say that is, however, within the margin of era 445 00:30:36,995 --> 00:30:44,595 Speaker 1: four point four forty ninety six, and thank goodness, built 446 00:30:44,715 --> 00:30:47,555 Speaker 1: into the stupidity of the Trump cult, there's always comic relief. 447 00:30:47,995 --> 00:30:52,155 Speaker 1: One of Trump's guys thinks Trump was threatened with a riffle. 448 00:30:53,555 --> 00:30:55,875 Speaker 1: There is clear evidence Trump is suffering from some kind 449 00:30:55,915 --> 00:31:00,915 Speaker 1: of thumb irrectile dysfunction, and Trump may have just lost 450 00:31:01,355 --> 00:31:07,315 Speaker 1: his most valuable endorsement, that life of the quarterback of 451 00:31:07,395 --> 00:31:12,555 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs football team. Worst Person's next this Discountdown. 452 00:31:14,555 --> 00:31:39,795 Speaker 1: This is Countdown with Keith Olberman stell ahead of us 453 00:31:39,795 --> 00:31:42,995 Speaker 1: on this Editiontive Countdown, mixing up the format a little bit. Today, 454 00:31:42,995 --> 00:31:45,355 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell the sad story of the financial 455 00:31:45,435 --> 00:31:51,275 Speaker 1: and esthetic suicide of Major League Baseball. The postseason will 456 00:31:51,275 --> 00:31:58,555 Speaker 1: feature advertisements five inches wide each on the sides of 457 00:31:58,675 --> 00:32:04,315 Speaker 1: every batting helmet, on every player in every game. Now, 458 00:32:04,315 --> 00:32:07,755 Speaker 1: they're is a good news here. There is a silver lining, 459 00:32:08,315 --> 00:32:11,395 Speaker 1: and that is that baseball's postseason ratings have collapsed so 460 00:32:11,635 --> 00:32:15,835 Speaker 1: much almost nobody will see these I sores coming up 461 00:32:15,875 --> 00:32:18,995 Speaker 1: in sports. First, there are still more new idiots to 462 00:32:19,035 --> 00:32:22,195 Speaker 1: talk about. The daily roundup of the misgrints, morons and 463 00:32:22,235 --> 00:32:27,995 Speaker 1: Dunning Kruger effects specimens who constitute two days worst persons 464 00:32:28,035 --> 00:32:35,195 Speaker 1: in the world. The Bronze Worse Brilind Holly Hand. That's 465 00:32:35,195 --> 00:32:39,275 Speaker 1: the name. I don't make them up. Pally Brilin Holly Hand, 466 00:32:39,915 --> 00:32:42,995 Speaker 1: chairman of a youth group for Trump. I'm not your 467 00:32:43,035 --> 00:32:49,035 Speaker 1: embryos for Trump, Brilin writes, camping outside the president's golf 468 00:32:49,035 --> 00:32:52,075 Speaker 1: course without being detected until the gun barrel aims at 469 00:32:52,115 --> 00:32:56,435 Speaker 1: the president. That's not true, another failure by the Secret Service. 470 00:32:57,235 --> 00:32:59,995 Speaker 1: Swift action once detected. But he never should have been 471 00:33:00,035 --> 00:33:07,075 Speaker 1: allowed to camp by the fence with a riffle. Lots 472 00:33:07,155 --> 00:33:12,635 Speaker 1: of questions, writes Brilin. Hollyhand. Yeah, I got a question. 473 00:33:13,475 --> 00:33:16,355 Speaker 1: This kid is eighteen years old. Certainly, even being a 474 00:33:16,435 --> 00:33:20,515 Speaker 1: Trump supporter, certainly he should know by now the difference 475 00:33:20,555 --> 00:33:24,715 Speaker 1: between rifle, you know, a gun usually used to shoot 476 00:33:24,755 --> 00:33:29,515 Speaker 1: school kids with, and riffle, which is a verb meaning 477 00:33:29,555 --> 00:33:34,195 Speaker 1: to leave through pages. Then again, if his parents, mister 478 00:33:34,235 --> 00:33:39,515 Speaker 1: and Missus Holly Hand really named him Brilin b r 479 00:33:39,675 --> 00:33:44,155 Speaker 1: I l y N, what chance did he ever have? 480 00:33:45,795 --> 00:33:49,435 Speaker 1: The Runner is Up worser speaker Mike Johnson and Trump. 481 00:33:50,155 --> 00:33:54,475 Speaker 1: Johnson visited Trump, still shaken and disturbed by not being 482 00:33:54,555 --> 00:33:57,515 Speaker 1: allowed to finish his golf game Sunday. They took the 483 00:33:57,595 --> 00:34:03,395 Speaker 1: thumbs up picture. Johnson's thumb is fully erect vertically pointed 484 00:34:03,475 --> 00:34:07,435 Speaker 1: up as ordered by godd This Johnson works, but something 485 00:34:07,515 --> 00:34:12,835 Speaker 1: is clearly wrong with Trump's thumb. Trump's thumb is horizontal 486 00:34:12,875 --> 00:34:17,275 Speaker 1: in the picture. It's pointing towards the camera. Trump just 487 00:34:17,315 --> 00:34:21,435 Speaker 1: can't get it up. His thumb is thumb. He can't 488 00:34:21,435 --> 00:34:24,795 Speaker 1: get up his thumb. What were you thinking? But our 489 00:34:24,835 --> 00:34:28,355 Speaker 1: winner the worst Trump himself. He has cost himself a 490 00:34:28,435 --> 00:34:34,035 Speaker 1: surprisingly useful endorsement. Taylor Swift, of course, endorsed Vice President 491 00:34:34,035 --> 00:34:37,715 Speaker 1: Harris after the debate. Among other things, Miss Swift is 492 00:34:37,755 --> 00:34:40,275 Speaker 1: the girlfriend of Travis Kelcey of the Kansas City Chiefs. 493 00:34:40,315 --> 00:34:42,875 Speaker 1: I believe she has a day job as well. But 494 00:34:42,955 --> 00:34:46,435 Speaker 1: Trump had been endorsed by the wife of the quarterback 495 00:34:46,515 --> 00:34:51,315 Speaker 1: of the Kansas City Chiefs, Pat Mahomes. Then Trump decided 496 00:34:51,315 --> 00:34:53,555 Speaker 1: he had to tell the world on Sunday quote I 497 00:34:53,595 --> 00:35:00,555 Speaker 1: hate Taylor Swift from the British tabloids. Quote that prompted 498 00:35:00,595 --> 00:35:05,835 Speaker 1: Britney Mahomes to quote question if she will continue to 499 00:35:05,955 --> 00:35:09,435 Speaker 1: endorse Trump's campaign. She is questioning her support for Donald 500 00:35:09,475 --> 00:35:12,435 Speaker 1: Trump after he lashed out at Taylor saying he hates her. 501 00:35:12,555 --> 00:35:17,835 Speaker 1: A source exclusively revealed to dillymail dot com. This deeply 502 00:35:17,875 --> 00:35:20,555 Speaker 1: bothered Brittany because Taylor is like a sister to her 503 00:35:20,835 --> 00:35:23,995 Speaker 1: and she has done absolutely nothing wrong. Quote. She didn't 504 00:35:23,995 --> 00:35:26,475 Speaker 1: mention Trump in her post and is allowed to speak 505 00:35:26,475 --> 00:35:29,795 Speaker 1: her mind. The source added, the Trump's decision to react 506 00:35:29,835 --> 00:35:33,915 Speaker 1: in such a hateful manner upset Brittany quote. She does 507 00:35:33,955 --> 00:35:36,915 Speaker 1: not believe in hate in any form and loves Taylor 508 00:35:37,035 --> 00:35:41,755 Speaker 1: so much. The insider continued, this shook her to the core. 509 00:35:43,915 --> 00:35:48,235 Speaker 1: Trump Yeah, saying he hated her friend shook Missus Mahomes 510 00:35:48,235 --> 00:35:52,075 Speaker 1: to her core. All the racism, sexism, criminality, the attempt 511 00:35:52,075 --> 00:35:55,515 Speaker 1: to overthrow the government, the new attempt to overthrow the government, 512 00:35:56,075 --> 00:35:58,315 Speaker 1: and by the way, all the hate in every form 513 00:35:58,355 --> 00:36:00,995 Speaker 1: that he's already expressed. All that was dandy with her, 514 00:36:02,475 --> 00:36:06,435 Speaker 1: all right, missus Mahomes. We take all people who see 515 00:36:06,475 --> 00:36:08,995 Speaker 1: the light. All right, fine, and you just you redeem 516 00:36:08,995 --> 00:36:13,275 Speaker 1: yourself easily, just withdraw your endorsement in public. Of course, 517 00:36:13,395 --> 00:36:15,915 Speaker 1: prepare yourself if you do that. Trump will then issue 518 00:36:16,035 --> 00:36:19,035 Speaker 1: a fatoa against you, like he does everybody else who 519 00:36:19,115 --> 00:36:26,875 Speaker 1: thwarts him. Donald domestic j terrorist, two days, worst Pyson 520 00:36:28,235 --> 00:36:28,915 Speaker 1: in the world. 521 00:36:55,635 --> 00:37:02,035 Speaker 2: This is Sports Center Wait, check that not anymore. This 522 00:37:02,915 --> 00:37:06,275 Speaker 2: is Countdown with Keith. 523 00:37:06,115 --> 00:37:12,355 Speaker 1: Alberman in Sports Central Center up date tonight. Kind of 524 00:37:12,435 --> 00:37:14,995 Speaker 1: breaking with the format here, but what the hell? Dateline 525 00:37:15,115 --> 00:37:21,355 Speaker 1: New York. I have theorized for some time that the 526 00:37:21,395 --> 00:37:24,635 Speaker 1: man running the National Hockey League, Gary Bettman, is actually 527 00:37:24,675 --> 00:37:28,315 Speaker 1: an agent of the National Basketball Association, sent to the 528 00:37:28,395 --> 00:37:30,955 Speaker 1: National Hockey League to make sure it is in no 529 00:37:31,035 --> 00:37:36,195 Speaker 1: way as successful as the National Basketball Association. Just pet 530 00:37:36,235 --> 00:37:40,795 Speaker 1: theory of mine during my more delusional days or more 531 00:37:40,795 --> 00:37:45,915 Speaker 1: insightful days. However, there is a concombinant theory that relates 532 00:37:45,955 --> 00:37:49,635 Speaker 1: to Major League Baseball. Rob Manfred, who I did not know, 533 00:37:49,715 --> 00:37:53,275 Speaker 1: but was a contemporary of mine at Corneill University in 534 00:37:53,275 --> 00:37:55,875 Speaker 1: the year nineteen seventy eight seventy nine. And if you 535 00:37:56,035 --> 00:37:59,195 Speaker 1: told anybody on campus there is one guy here who 536 00:37:59,235 --> 00:38:02,235 Speaker 1: will wind up being Commissioner of Baseball, they all would 537 00:38:02,275 --> 00:38:07,755 Speaker 1: have pointed at me. Rob Manfred is working for somebody 538 00:38:07,755 --> 00:38:10,835 Speaker 1: who is trying to destroy baseball. There is no other 539 00:38:11,315 --> 00:38:15,355 Speaker 1: possible explanation. I'll just read part of this press release. 540 00:38:15,915 --> 00:38:20,315 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball has announced a multi year partnership with 541 00:38:20,435 --> 00:38:25,835 Speaker 1: a German workware company called Strauss. The deal, we'll see 542 00:38:25,995 --> 00:38:30,555 Speaker 1: the Strauss logo added to both sides of all twelve 543 00:38:30,995 --> 00:38:36,355 Speaker 1: team batting helmets during every Baseball postseason and World Series 544 00:38:36,435 --> 00:38:40,835 Speaker 1: game starting this year next month through the end of 545 00:38:40,875 --> 00:38:44,595 Speaker 1: the season of twenty twenty seven. It will also apply 546 00:38:44,755 --> 00:38:48,195 Speaker 1: to all baseball regular season games held in Europe, as 547 00:38:48,195 --> 00:38:51,835 Speaker 1: well as all minor league baseball games regular and postseason 548 00:38:52,075 --> 00:38:56,035 Speaker 1: from twenty twenty five forward. The strous logo will appear 549 00:38:56,035 --> 00:38:59,155 Speaker 1: in two different color ways, depending on the helmet on 550 00:38:59,195 --> 00:39:02,515 Speaker 1: which it's being worn. For teams with red helmets, the 551 00:39:02,595 --> 00:39:06,915 Speaker 1: decal will feature a transparent version of Strauss's Ostridge logo 552 00:39:07,395 --> 00:39:10,115 Speaker 1: placed inside a white box. Helmets of any other color, 553 00:39:10,315 --> 00:39:13,235 Speaker 1: we'll have the ostrichen white inside a red box. Both 554 00:39:13,275 --> 00:39:15,555 Speaker 1: feature the company named to the right of the ostrichen 555 00:39:15,635 --> 00:39:21,035 Speaker 1: white letters five inch wide on both sides of every 556 00:39:21,075 --> 00:39:25,115 Speaker 1: batting helmet in every baseball Playoff and World Series game, 557 00:39:25,195 --> 00:39:28,715 Speaker 1: in addition to the ads on the uniforms. In addition 558 00:39:28,875 --> 00:39:32,195 Speaker 1: to the patches that say World Series, they'll all look 559 00:39:32,315 --> 00:39:37,755 Speaker 1: like racing car drivers or like a little league team 560 00:39:38,235 --> 00:39:43,075 Speaker 1: five inches wide advertising a company selling a product. Nobody 561 00:39:43,395 --> 00:39:51,115 Speaker 1: buys Strauss German Workwear. They were the high bidder. I 562 00:39:51,155 --> 00:39:56,595 Speaker 1: assume Strauss German Workware, so Commissioner Manfred is working for 563 00:39:56,675 --> 00:40:01,755 Speaker 1: the Bundesliga. The German soccer outfit is that it because 564 00:40:01,795 --> 00:40:05,075 Speaker 1: there aren't that many things left for rob manfre to 565 00:40:05,235 --> 00:40:10,315 Speaker 1: do to destroy baseball's postseason and World Series. I have 566 00:40:10,475 --> 00:40:12,875 Speaker 1: not gone to a Major League Baseball game in this 567 00:40:12,995 --> 00:40:16,195 Speaker 1: season of twenty twenty four. I believe there were two 568 00:40:16,275 --> 00:40:19,155 Speaker 1: years in the nineties where, mostly because of logistics, I 569 00:40:19,195 --> 00:40:21,355 Speaker 1: was out in the middle of nowhere in Connecticut, I 570 00:40:21,355 --> 00:40:24,115 Speaker 1: couldn't easily get to one, and I didn't. I know 571 00:40:24,315 --> 00:40:27,435 Speaker 1: at least one year I did not go at all. 572 00:40:27,635 --> 00:40:30,195 Speaker 1: This year, I have not gone, even though the subway 573 00:40:30,235 --> 00:40:33,955 Speaker 1: that goes to the Mets home stadium literally runs under 574 00:40:33,995 --> 00:40:38,915 Speaker 1: my house. It just has not been worth it. I 575 00:40:39,035 --> 00:40:43,315 Speaker 1: miss my friends, I'd go to see them, but the 576 00:40:43,395 --> 00:40:46,795 Speaker 1: games I know I'm watching have no relevance to the postseason. 577 00:40:47,115 --> 00:40:51,995 Speaker 1: The teams that do well immediately get eliminated, or if 578 00:40:52,035 --> 00:40:54,475 Speaker 1: they don't get eliminated and go on to play in 579 00:40:54,515 --> 00:40:57,075 Speaker 1: the World Series, they'll meet a team so much better 580 00:40:57,075 --> 00:40:59,235 Speaker 1: than they are that they'll be like the Phillies from 581 00:40:59,235 --> 00:41:01,475 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Leading the series two games 582 00:41:01,475 --> 00:41:04,155 Speaker 1: to one, then they got no hit and never led 583 00:41:04,195 --> 00:41:06,795 Speaker 1: again in the entirety of the series and got blown out. 584 00:41:06,915 --> 00:41:09,995 Speaker 1: It was an embarrassment. I felt sorry for the players. 585 00:41:10,155 --> 00:41:13,115 Speaker 1: I'm sixty five years old. There are no athletes I 586 00:41:13,155 --> 00:41:19,555 Speaker 1: should feel sorry for. Baseball has destroyed itself and now 587 00:41:19,675 --> 00:41:22,195 Speaker 1: it's going to stick a big ad on the side. 588 00:41:22,315 --> 00:41:26,235 Speaker 1: The big words Strauss and an Ostriche if there's anything 589 00:41:26,315 --> 00:41:31,235 Speaker 1: more appropriate to describe the commissionership of Robert Manfred, who 590 00:41:31,315 --> 00:41:35,035 Speaker 1: transferred from some local school into Cornell University in nineteen 591 00:41:35,115 --> 00:41:41,515 Speaker 1: seventy eight, it's an Ostridge. In June of this year, 592 00:41:41,595 --> 00:41:44,715 Speaker 1: the infielder Justin Turner, now of the Mariners and generally 593 00:41:44,715 --> 00:41:47,115 Speaker 1: one of the most thoughtful of all baseball players in 594 00:41:47,115 --> 00:41:50,635 Speaker 1: the last two decades, had one of the worst ideas 595 00:41:50,635 --> 00:41:54,675 Speaker 1: of all time. This is how bad things are getting. 596 00:41:55,155 --> 00:41:58,875 Speaker 1: Appearing on a streaming show called Foul Territory, Turner was 597 00:41:58,915 --> 00:42:00,675 Speaker 1: asked what he would do if they let him be 598 00:42:00,795 --> 00:42:03,755 Speaker 1: commissioner for a day. Please God, let's try it anyway. 599 00:42:04,795 --> 00:42:08,275 Speaker 1: He suggested expanding from thirty to thirty two different teams, 600 00:42:08,515 --> 00:42:12,315 Speaker 1: completely eliminating the current format of American League and National League, 601 00:42:12,475 --> 00:42:15,155 Speaker 1: and rearranging things so that the World Series is always 602 00:42:15,315 --> 00:42:19,195 Speaker 1: East versus West, with a big Strauss logo on it 603 00:42:19,235 --> 00:42:26,555 Speaker 1: at an ostrich. The television audience for the World Series 604 00:42:27,795 --> 00:42:32,595 Speaker 1: reached its peak in nineteen seventy eight, coincidentally, the year 605 00:42:32,875 --> 00:42:36,475 Speaker 1: Manfred and I were both at Cornell. Forty four million 606 00:42:36,555 --> 00:42:40,035 Speaker 1: viewers on average watched the World Series games the six 607 00:42:40,075 --> 00:42:43,155 Speaker 1: games between the Los Angeles Dodgers and the New York Yankees. 608 00:42:45,155 --> 00:42:50,275 Speaker 1: Last year, the average was I believe eight million viewers 609 00:42:50,275 --> 00:42:55,115 Speaker 1: per game nine. So the audience is about one tenth 610 00:42:55,675 --> 00:43:00,035 Speaker 1: one ninth what it was in nineteen seventy eight. Even 611 00:43:00,075 --> 00:43:03,235 Speaker 1: though the population is one third greater than it was 612 00:43:03,275 --> 00:43:06,675 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy eight, the net loss here is spectacular. 613 00:43:08,155 --> 00:43:11,715 Speaker 1: It's more than ninety percent against the growth of the country. 614 00:43:13,675 --> 00:43:17,555 Speaker 1: Why did the World Series die? There are a thousand reasons, 615 00:43:17,595 --> 00:43:21,595 Speaker 1: one of which is an ostrich, but the easiest one 616 00:43:21,595 --> 00:43:24,435 Speaker 1: to comprehend is this. In nineteen seventy eight, the average 617 00:43:24,475 --> 00:43:27,875 Speaker 1: television viewer had four channels to choose from, maybe five, 618 00:43:27,995 --> 00:43:31,155 Speaker 1: maybe six. Some people had cable, but not many. There 619 00:43:31,195 --> 00:43:34,195 Speaker 1: weren't a lot of choices. The World Series was live. 620 00:43:34,915 --> 00:43:38,275 Speaker 1: Baseball was much more popular, but you know, if you're 621 00:43:38,315 --> 00:43:41,395 Speaker 1: watching TV, there aren't a lot of choices. Necessarily, many 622 00:43:41,435 --> 00:43:44,155 Speaker 1: more would be watching the baseball Who are now watching, 623 00:43:44,795 --> 00:43:49,435 Speaker 1: I don't know, streaming something, watching mad Men for the 624 00:43:49,475 --> 00:43:54,995 Speaker 1: seven hundredth time. But one of the other reasons that 625 00:43:55,035 --> 00:43:58,675 Speaker 1: the decline reached epidemic proportions. And I mean, if the 626 00:43:58,715 --> 00:44:00,995 Speaker 1: audience was half what it was in nineteen seventy eight, 627 00:44:01,075 --> 00:44:04,795 Speaker 1: that would make sense. It's it's realistically eight or nine 628 00:44:04,795 --> 00:44:08,835 Speaker 1: percent of what it was. And the earliest signs of this, 629 00:44:09,355 --> 00:44:12,995 Speaker 1: the earliest signs show up with the earliest actions that 630 00:44:13,075 --> 00:44:15,675 Speaker 1: would go into the Justin Turner idea of eliminating the 631 00:44:15,715 --> 00:44:19,715 Speaker 1: American and National Leagues. In nineteen ninety six, the Braves 632 00:44:19,715 --> 00:44:22,755 Speaker 1: and the Yankees played in the World Series. Even though 633 00:44:22,755 --> 00:44:25,075 Speaker 1: the Braves won the first game by a huge amount, 634 00:44:25,675 --> 00:44:27,755 Speaker 1: blew the Yankees out, and again in the second game 635 00:44:27,795 --> 00:44:30,675 Speaker 1: looked like a runaway, they still averaged twenty five million 636 00:44:30,755 --> 00:44:32,595 Speaker 1: viewers per game that year. And I remember going on 637 00:44:32,635 --> 00:44:35,595 Speaker 1: Sports Center and saying, yeah, the ratings are in decline. 638 00:44:35,635 --> 00:44:38,235 Speaker 1: Nobody is willing to say this, But what happens twenty 639 00:44:38,315 --> 00:44:41,355 Speaker 1: five years from now, Well we find out nineteen ninety seven. 640 00:44:41,395 --> 00:44:46,195 Speaker 1: The next year, they began interleague play. Until nineteen ninety seven, 641 00:44:46,235 --> 00:44:48,635 Speaker 1: teams from the American League and the National League had 642 00:44:48,675 --> 00:44:52,435 Speaker 1: never played each other except in spring training or exhibition 643 00:44:52,515 --> 00:44:55,635 Speaker 1: games or in the World Series never played each other 644 00:44:55,675 --> 00:44:58,435 Speaker 1: when it counted. Since the American League opened for business 645 00:44:58,435 --> 00:45:02,635 Speaker 1: in nineteen oh one. The World Series was an utterly 646 00:45:02,875 --> 00:45:06,475 Speaker 1: novel event, and it was also that thing that all 647 00:45:06,555 --> 00:45:13,075 Speaker 1: sports leagues try to fabricate today create artificially. This was 648 00:45:13,115 --> 00:45:20,235 Speaker 1: an actual but organic rivalry because most American League fans 649 00:45:20,835 --> 00:45:24,875 Speaker 1: up till nineteen ninety seven hated the National League or 650 00:45:24,915 --> 00:45:29,315 Speaker 1: at least disrespected it, and vice versa. There used to 651 00:45:29,355 --> 00:45:35,035 Speaker 1: be endless arguments, scholarly articles, research in the Society for 652 00:45:35,075 --> 00:45:40,835 Speaker 1: American Baseball Research, annual guide research into which league was 653 00:45:41,555 --> 00:45:46,235 Speaker 1: better than the other league. And this was true because 654 00:45:46,995 --> 00:45:50,435 Speaker 1: while I'll use the example of my grandfather, Victor Charbineer, 655 00:45:51,675 --> 00:45:54,395 Speaker 1: he died in nineteen eighty seven, and he died in 656 00:45:54,475 --> 00:45:58,235 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven hating the American League. He would watch 657 00:45:58,275 --> 00:46:00,835 Speaker 1: the World Series, he would watch the All Star Game. 658 00:46:00,995 --> 00:46:03,955 Speaker 1: He would root against the American League. He didn't know 659 00:46:03,995 --> 00:46:06,475 Speaker 1: most of the play He didn't know many of the teams. 660 00:46:06,675 --> 00:46:08,955 Speaker 1: He didn't know that the Washington Senators that he saw 661 00:46:08,995 --> 00:46:12,515 Speaker 1: play in nineteen sixty one were an entirely different franchise 662 00:46:12,555 --> 00:46:14,515 Speaker 1: than the ones he'd seen as the Washington Senators in 663 00:46:14,595 --> 00:46:17,555 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty. He wasn't that sophisticated a fan, but he 664 00:46:17,595 --> 00:46:20,635 Speaker 1: hated the American League. He knew that much. He would 665 00:46:20,675 --> 00:46:23,275 Speaker 1: mock the New York Yankees of the American League. He 666 00:46:23,435 --> 00:46:25,875 Speaker 1: insisted they played in the weaker league than did the 667 00:46:25,955 --> 00:46:28,355 Speaker 1: National League New York Mets. He was loyal to the 668 00:46:28,435 --> 00:46:31,195 Speaker 1: National League. Even though his team, the New York Giants, 669 00:46:31,315 --> 00:46:33,515 Speaker 1: had moved out of New York in nineteen fifty seven, 670 00:46:33,675 --> 00:46:36,835 Speaker 1: he still preferred the National League because it was a rivalry, 671 00:46:37,515 --> 00:46:41,235 Speaker 1: and his hatred in nineteen eighty seven owed to something 672 00:46:41,275 --> 00:46:47,115 Speaker 1: that had happened in July nineteen oh three. My grandfather 673 00:46:47,235 --> 00:46:49,675 Speaker 1: was a little boy when the star shortstop of his 674 00:46:49,795 --> 00:46:53,235 Speaker 1: National League, New York Giants, a man named George Stacy Davis, 675 00:46:54,155 --> 00:46:57,435 Speaker 1: jumped his contract and went and signed with the Chicago 676 00:46:57,475 --> 00:47:01,275 Speaker 1: White Sox of the New American League. That had happened 677 00:47:01,315 --> 00:47:03,595 Speaker 1: actually in nineteen oh two. In nineteen oh three, Davis 678 00:47:03,595 --> 00:47:05,915 Speaker 1: had jumped back to New York Giants, but as part 679 00:47:05,955 --> 00:47:08,395 Speaker 1: of the peace settlement between these two leagues that were 680 00:47:08,395 --> 00:47:11,795 Speaker 1: at war, and war in baseball means driving up salaries. 681 00:47:11,915 --> 00:47:14,755 Speaker 1: Owners don't like that. When they settled it and drove 682 00:47:14,835 --> 00:47:17,915 Speaker 1: salaries down. Davis was ordered back to Chicago as part 683 00:47:17,915 --> 00:47:21,355 Speaker 1: of the settlement. Grandpa, even though he was a little 684 00:47:21,355 --> 00:47:23,675 Speaker 1: boy who really didn't understand any of this stuff, and 685 00:47:23,795 --> 00:47:25,675 Speaker 1: I don't know that he heard it firsthand. It may 686 00:47:25,715 --> 00:47:27,795 Speaker 1: have been his older relatives who were angry, and he 687 00:47:27,915 --> 00:47:32,035 Speaker 1: just inherited that. Grandpa was still angry about George Stacey 688 00:47:32,115 --> 00:47:37,635 Speaker 1: Davis eighty four years later. You can't possibly buy that 689 00:47:37,755 --> 00:47:46,315 Speaker 1: kind of rivalry. Hatreds like that were inherited, cultivated, maintained, cherished, enjoyed. 690 00:47:47,995 --> 00:47:51,875 Speaker 1: My mother became a New York Yankees fan entirely because 691 00:47:52,475 --> 00:47:56,635 Speaker 1: she knew it would piss off her father, my grandfather. 692 00:47:58,035 --> 00:48:00,075 Speaker 1: That's why I had become a Yankee fan when I 693 00:48:00,195 --> 00:48:04,435 Speaker 1: was a kid, because I went with the games to 694 00:48:04,795 --> 00:48:10,555 Speaker 1: her see her team. You may try to create rivalries 695 00:48:10,635 --> 00:48:13,875 Speaker 1: like that, in fact, they form only from true hatred, 696 00:48:14,315 --> 00:48:19,075 Speaker 1: true division. It was Coke versus Pepsi. It was Republican 697 00:48:19,155 --> 00:48:25,075 Speaker 1: versus Democrat for profit. And when Baseball stopped keeping the 698 00:48:25,155 --> 00:48:28,355 Speaker 1: league separate, stopped making the World Series the battle the 699 00:48:28,475 --> 00:48:31,595 Speaker 1: only battle between the leagues, it suddenly didn't mean that much. 700 00:48:32,595 --> 00:48:34,755 Speaker 1: The New York Mets versus the New York Yankees was 701 00:48:34,755 --> 00:48:37,515 Speaker 1: something I dreamed of seeing as a kid. Oh what 702 00:48:37,555 --> 00:48:41,995 Speaker 1: my grandfather would have made of that they finally faced 703 00:48:42,035 --> 00:48:45,115 Speaker 1: each other in the World Series of two thousand. I 704 00:48:45,435 --> 00:48:49,195 Speaker 1: was the host for Fox. Seemingly this would have been 705 00:48:49,195 --> 00:48:53,995 Speaker 1: the epitome of my sports career. The ratings the lowest 706 00:48:54,115 --> 00:48:58,835 Speaker 1: the World Series it ever had. That was the big sign. 707 00:49:00,675 --> 00:49:04,035 Speaker 1: Interleague play began in nineteen ninety seven. The nineteen ninety 708 00:49:04,075 --> 00:49:06,795 Speaker 1: six World audience had been twenty five million viewers a game. 709 00:49:06,795 --> 00:49:10,075 Speaker 1: Within four years, they were down to eighteen million since 710 00:49:10,115 --> 00:49:12,635 Speaker 1: two thousand and four, when the Red Sox won their 711 00:49:12,675 --> 00:49:15,795 Speaker 1: first World Series. Since nineteen eighteen, the average has been 712 00:49:16,075 --> 00:49:19,715 Speaker 1: more than twenty million a game only once. It was 713 00:49:19,795 --> 00:49:23,035 Speaker 1: last as high as fourteen million per game six years ago. 714 00:49:23,995 --> 00:49:26,435 Speaker 1: If you want to make the World Series live again, 715 00:49:26,515 --> 00:49:28,635 Speaker 1: you have to make it interesting to fans whose teams 716 00:49:28,675 --> 00:49:31,915 Speaker 1: are not playing in it. That used to be everybody 717 00:49:32,435 --> 00:49:34,915 Speaker 1: because you were also a fan, not just of a team, 718 00:49:34,915 --> 00:49:40,195 Speaker 1: but of a league. It may not be salvageable, it 719 00:49:40,235 --> 00:49:42,235 Speaker 1: may be too late, it may be dead forever, it 720 00:49:42,275 --> 00:49:45,875 Speaker 1: may be extinct. But what Baseball should do is eliminate 721 00:49:45,995 --> 00:49:48,875 Speaker 1: all inter league play and see if it can bring 722 00:49:48,955 --> 00:49:52,555 Speaker 1: the league versus league rivalry back to life. Rather than saying, 723 00:49:52,835 --> 00:49:55,835 Speaker 1: you know, I think we could put a second ad 724 00:49:55,875 --> 00:49:59,155 Speaker 1: on the helmets next to the ostrich like in the 725 00:49:59,195 --> 00:50:01,555 Speaker 1: back of the helmet or on the front where that 726 00:50:01,635 --> 00:50:05,155 Speaker 1: Why does the Texas Ranger helmet had that tea? We're 727 00:50:05,155 --> 00:50:08,955 Speaker 1: not getting any money off that. It's the team logo, sir, Wow, 728 00:50:08,995 --> 00:50:11,595 Speaker 1: we're not making any money off of it. How about 729 00:50:11,635 --> 00:50:14,635 Speaker 1: we put a little like a miner's light on top 730 00:50:14,675 --> 00:50:16,955 Speaker 1: of each helmet and put an advertisement on each side 731 00:50:16,995 --> 00:50:20,035 Speaker 1: of that. Think of all the different birds we can 732 00:50:20,075 --> 00:50:28,595 Speaker 1: put up there. Grandpa wasn't just still angry about George 733 00:50:28,595 --> 00:50:31,635 Speaker 1: sta C. Davis eighty four years later. He was also 734 00:50:31,715 --> 00:50:35,075 Speaker 1: convinced that the National League played real baseball and the 735 00:50:35,115 --> 00:50:39,035 Speaker 1: American League was not only weak and bad, but that 736 00:50:39,275 --> 00:50:43,195 Speaker 1: the American League was fixed, fixed so that the Yankees 737 00:50:43,235 --> 00:50:48,435 Speaker 1: would win the pennant. Nearly every year he had to 738 00:50:48,475 --> 00:50:53,235 Speaker 1: watch the World Series because it was It was existential 739 00:50:53,315 --> 00:50:57,635 Speaker 1: to him and two millions of others forty four million 740 00:50:57,675 --> 00:51:01,555 Speaker 1: TV viewers a night. They won't get forty four million 741 00:51:01,635 --> 00:51:05,075 Speaker 1: viewers for the World Series in its entirety if it 742 00:51:05,115 --> 00:51:10,555 Speaker 1: goes seven games. Next month. You cannot buy that kind 743 00:51:10,555 --> 00:51:16,435 Speaker 1: of devotion from customers. You cannot forge it. The crazy 744 00:51:16,555 --> 00:51:20,475 Speaker 1: has to be organic, and Baseball has been steadily eliminating 745 00:51:20,515 --> 00:51:23,835 Speaker 1: the crazy, and it has made its World Series small 746 00:51:24,315 --> 00:51:28,515 Speaker 1: and smaller and smallest. And now it's putting ads for 747 00:51:28,555 --> 00:51:32,955 Speaker 1: a company nobody's ever heard of before on both sides 748 00:51:33,275 --> 00:51:36,875 Speaker 1: of every helmet in every playoff and World Series games, 749 00:51:37,595 --> 00:51:46,835 Speaker 1: stals all the helmets. Not even mind you an ad 750 00:51:46,875 --> 00:51:50,675 Speaker 1: for a company people have heard of. I mean you 751 00:51:50,715 --> 00:51:53,315 Speaker 1: could probably gain an audience if instead of the ads 752 00:51:53,315 --> 00:52:11,635 Speaker 1: reading Strauss, they read Chico's bail bonds. I've done all 753 00:52:11,675 --> 00:52:13,515 Speaker 1: the damage I can do here. And no, I'm not 754 00:52:13,675 --> 00:52:18,835 Speaker 1: arguing against advertising on sports uniforms. You get used to 755 00:52:18,875 --> 00:52:21,595 Speaker 1: it as long as it's small and not like standing 756 00:52:21,595 --> 00:52:26,035 Speaker 1: out on top of every helmet only in the postseason. Here, 757 00:52:26,195 --> 00:52:30,635 Speaker 1: here's our marquee item. Let's punish you with more advertising. 758 00:52:31,435 --> 00:52:33,515 Speaker 1: What do you mean nobody watched the game last night? 759 00:52:33,555 --> 00:52:36,275 Speaker 1: I mean you're saying the ratings were down from but 760 00:52:36,435 --> 00:52:40,755 Speaker 1: literally nobody watched. They're not even going to put all 761 00:52:40,755 --> 00:52:44,635 Speaker 1: the lights on tonight to save some money. Look, the 762 00:52:44,635 --> 00:52:48,195 Speaker 1: World Series once in eighteen ninety was so unpopular baseball 763 00:52:48,475 --> 00:52:51,635 Speaker 1: so alienated its audience that the World Series of eighteen 764 00:52:51,715 --> 00:52:56,155 Speaker 1: ninety was tied, three games for Brooklyn, three games for Louisville, 765 00:52:56,435 --> 00:53:00,155 Speaker 1: one game tied. The attendance had dropped to about four 766 00:53:00,355 --> 00:53:03,755 Speaker 1: hundred fans, The weather was bad, and when it came 767 00:53:03,835 --> 00:53:07,675 Speaker 1: time to play the decisive game, they said, nobody's here. 768 00:53:08,155 --> 00:53:12,355 Speaker 1: Why bother? The World Series was abandoned in eighteen ninety. 769 00:53:13,715 --> 00:53:17,795 Speaker 1: It could happen again, but at least Strauss will get 770 00:53:17,795 --> 00:53:21,395 Speaker 1: its ads on the helmets as they knocked down the 771 00:53:21,395 --> 00:53:26,155 Speaker 1: stadiums or something. Thanks for listening, Please send this to 772 00:53:26,195 --> 00:53:28,955 Speaker 1: somebody who doesn't. We're now back to five episodes a week, 773 00:53:28,995 --> 00:53:31,755 Speaker 1: posting nightly just after midnight Eastern. Once again, there is 774 00:53:31,795 --> 00:53:34,875 Speaker 1: a Monday Countdown. Brian Ray and John Phillip Shanelle, the 775 00:53:34,955 --> 00:53:37,795 Speaker 1: musical directors of Countdown, arranged, produced and performed most of 776 00:53:37,835 --> 00:53:41,315 Speaker 1: our music. Mister Chanelle handled orchestration and keyboards. Mister Ray 777 00:53:41,395 --> 00:53:44,315 Speaker 1: was on guitars, bass, and drums. This was produced by 778 00:53:44,355 --> 00:53:47,995 Speaker 1: Tko Brothers. Our satirical and pithy musical comments are by 779 00:53:48,035 --> 00:53:51,755 Speaker 1: the best baseball stadium organist ever, Nancy Faust. Sports Music 780 00:53:51,835 --> 00:53:55,035 Speaker 1: is the Olderman theme from ESPN two, written by Mitch 781 00:53:55,075 --> 00:53:58,835 Speaker 1: Warren Davis courtesy of ESPN, Inc. Other music arranged and 782 00:53:58,915 --> 00:54:02,115 Speaker 1: performed by the group No Horns Allowed. My announcer today 783 00:54:02,155 --> 00:54:05,955 Speaker 1: was my friend Stevie van Zant. Else it's pretty much 784 00:54:05,995 --> 00:54:10,955 Speaker 1: my fault. That's countdown for this the fiftieth day until 785 00:54:10,955 --> 00:54:13,915 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty fourth presidential election. That counts to day 786 00:54:13,955 --> 00:54:17,915 Speaker 1: and election day, the three and forty fourth day since 787 00:54:17,995 --> 00:54:21,475 Speaker 1: convicted felon dementia j Trump's first attempted coup against the 788 00:54:21,515 --> 00:54:25,155 Speaker 1: democratically elected government of the United States. Use the election, 789 00:54:25,635 --> 00:54:28,115 Speaker 1: use the mental health system, use presidential immunity if we 790 00:54:28,155 --> 00:54:31,475 Speaker 1: have to, to keep him from doing it again legally 791 00:54:32,115 --> 00:54:37,235 Speaker 1: while we still can. The next scheduled countdown is tomorrow. Boltons, 792 00:54:37,235 --> 00:54:42,395 Speaker 1: as the news requires, cross off the name Strauss workwear 793 00:54:42,515 --> 00:54:46,995 Speaker 1: from potential advertisers here till the next one. I'm Keith Ulrman. 794 00:54:46,995 --> 00:55:06,915 Speaker 1: Good Morning, good afternoon, good night, and good luck. Countdown 795 00:55:06,955 --> 00:55:10,715 Speaker 1: with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. For more 796 00:55:10,795 --> 00:55:15,715 Speaker 1: podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or 797 00:55:15,795 --> 00:55:17,595 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts.