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Speaker 1: to try to figure all that out. But it's it's

427
00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,320
Speaker 1: extra on average. On say, let's just say throw out

428
00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,560
Speaker 1: a number, Say, right, you signed twenty five kids on

429
00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,320
Speaker 1: average since you've been there. How many of those would

430
00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,439
Speaker 1: you say you're able to get on campus to see him?

431
00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,119
Speaker 1: You know, in terms of getting him in on campus

432
00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,720
Speaker 1: for a little especially if you know, we try not

433
00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,280
Speaker 1: to go too far out of our our area, you know,

434
00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,159
Speaker 1: you know, well, you know, the basis is kind of

435
00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:23,000
Speaker 1: a six hour area radius kids now Tennessee. You can

436
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,439
Speaker 1: go to California and pick a few kids and go

437
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,920
Speaker 1: to Texas. You know, we can do that, you know, fortunately,

438
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,880
Speaker 1: but we don't make a habit of it. We're gonna

439
00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:34,240
Speaker 1: make our living in Tennessee, you know, Georgia, Florida, you

440
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,480
Speaker 1: know North Carolina. So because of that, we'll get kids

441
00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,680
Speaker 1: on I've been an average if we sent you talking

442
00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,400
Speaker 1: about those kids, I bet I bet the average coming

443
00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,679
Speaker 1: on campus four times. Yeah, wow, you know, probably on

444
00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:51,680
Speaker 1: an average. That's crazy. UM, tell us about about Barnett.

445
00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,240
Speaker 1: You remember going were you there through that recruiting process?

446
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 1: Were what you see in him? What do you know

447
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 1: you were getting out of him? What? You know? I

448
00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,520
Speaker 1: talked about those things that knew wouldn't go away. He

449
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,680
Speaker 1: was always the toughest guy in the field. Um, when

450
00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 1: you met him in person, there wasn't a more serious,

451
00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,280
Speaker 1: uh kind of ornery kid that you ever met. Not

452
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:12,800
Speaker 1: in a bad way, but the kid just had a

453
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 1: chip on his shoulder, you know, and he had a

454
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,480
Speaker 1: feeling that wouldn't go away. So you knew he was driven.

455
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,119
Speaker 1: He knew he was tough. Now again, he kind of

456
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 1: looked like he does now in high school. To be

457
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,840
Speaker 1: honest with you, you know, he was two hundred sixty pounds.

458
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,440
Speaker 1: We really thought, to be honest with we thought he

459
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,680
Speaker 1: would grow into a d tackle really and he just Yeah,

460
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,480
Speaker 1: we really did. We thought he would be that with

461
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 1: his toughness, we thought he'd be a good fit for him.

462
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 1: But you know, he kind of kept his body, kind

463
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 1: of his weight kind of always stayed around two sixty eight.

464
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 1: Obviously he was very productive. But thinking about Derek Barnett that,

465
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 1: you know, it really was us in Vanderbilt was in

466
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,879
Speaker 1: the recruiting battle for him. Yeah, we had well, we

467
00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 1: had a knock off a trip in Missouri that last

468
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 1: weekend that we were worried about, but that was really it,

469
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 1: to be honest with you. And so he came in

470
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 1: the chip on his shoulder, was not a midier kid.

471
00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 1: So he came in in June about the first, about

472
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 1: the second day in pads. He comes in, sticks a

473
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,400
Speaker 1: senior linebacker and he's on scout team, picks him up,

474
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 1: strips the ball, covers the ball and we're like, yeah,

475
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,719
Speaker 1: that kid might have something. The second and then from

476
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: that point on and really the rest of his history

477
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 1: because of what he did, you know, kids first first

478
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 1: defensive line, the start in the history of this school

479
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 1: as a freshman um and you know, he just he

480
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 1: he took it from there and there's just again his

481
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 1: motor and his toughness never went away, that chip on

482
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,440
Speaker 1: the shoulder every one away. I have the same type

483
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 1: of story. One of my buddies that played with him

484
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: in high school, we were It's his first game as

485
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 1: freshman year, and I was working on the video team.

486
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 1: He's there right in front of us, and and he

487
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: my buddys busy in the shoulders and he's like, watch

488
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 1: this freshman kid, And just during warmups, it's like, this

489
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 1: guy is going to be special. You just knew a

490
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 1: scouting freshman freshman in high school stories solely why did

491
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 1: you come off the top fresh freshman? I was in college.

492
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 1: I was at so that was a college Yeah, I

493
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 1: got you, all right, Well, Sully had I'm gonna let

494
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: Selly lob Yeah, yeah, I gotta say that a Alvin

495
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: Kamara fan favorite, just to let everybody know he just

496
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 1: in such a short period of time. I've never seen

497
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 1: a Tennessee fan base really just love a player like Alvin.

498
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: What's what's your favorite Alvin Kamara story? Because I know

499
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: Saints fans are gonna love this guy. Yeah they will.

500
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 1: The best thing about Alvin I would say is that

501
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 1: nothing really bothers Elvin. You know, he's just the same

502
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,239
Speaker 1: kid all the time and he comes across. You meet

503
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 1: him as this laid back kid, but then you put

504
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 1: the ball in his hand or he asked him. He

505
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 1: really can do anything, and he's probably one of the better.

506
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got a great arm. I mean, our

507
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 1: quarterbacks would stand all the time after practice and try

508
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 1: to hit the goalpost, you know, from like the fifty

509
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 1: just you know, it was, you know, a kid always.

510
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 1: He just got that kind of way of stepping up

511
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 1: big whenever he needs to um. And he's so laid back,

512
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 1: but you know he's just just came in with especially

513
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: his background. You know, you're a big shot at Alabama.

514
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: Then you go to Juco, which is you know, always

515
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 1: tough to do, especially for that path, and then to

516
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 1: come here and you got to really have this about Elvin.

517
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 1: He's here a year and he gets named to captain,

518
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: and I think that said everything about Elvin Um and

519
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: he's you know again, he's the same kid every day.

520
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 1: Nothing bothers him. You know, he was really the backup

521
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: to the other kid for a while. I was fine.

522
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,719
Speaker 1: He knew I was gonna get my touches and make

523
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: my yards and and and score touchdowns. I'm good and

524
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: just a good teammate that way. And you know, um,

525
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 1: the same thing to the punt return. There's there's some

526
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 1: argument he might have been the best punt return in

527
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 1: the country, but we had Cam Sutton who was the

528
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 1: best punt return of the country, and so he just

529
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: kind of waited his turn. He get one or two

530
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 1: a game. And you know, again, he's just a team

531
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: first guy. And uh, I think that's what our kids,

532
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,239
Speaker 1: you you know, liked about him as he wasn't there

533
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 1: was no big time to him. And um, he's a talented,

534
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: talented kid. There's there's a bunch of other guys who

535
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: had to get drapped here. First of all, I need

536
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 1: to I need know what how did it resonate inside

537
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 1: the building. I don't know if anybody was watching the

538
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,719
Speaker 1: year before when when we all gave Charles Davis such

539
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 1: a hard time about the University of Tennessee not have

540
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,479
Speaker 1: any draftable players. Was that was that referenced at all

541
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: inside the volunteer football program? Oh yeah, yeah, we we watched.

542
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: We keep a close eye and Charles that was that

543
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 1: was rough. That's why that's why d I'll be honest,

544
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 1: I watched, I watched, I watched every route this year

545
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 1: you wanted, you wanted to soak it all in. Yep,

546
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 1: I soaked it all in for Charles. He was so happy,

547
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 1: and he's such a classy guy. He wasn't really giving

548
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: it back to me as probably as much as he should,

549
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: uh as hard as I was. And for those who

550
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: don't know, after last year, the Minnesota Vikings selected Mouras

551
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 1: Bowinger from Germany UM And so after he was picked,

552
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: I told Charles on on our on air during the draft, said,

553
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: well Germany has had more players picked in Tennessee, and

554
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: so we all we gotta laugh. Charles took it, took

555
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: it like a man. And then this year they came

556
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 1: back and all these volunteers got drafted, and he just

557
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 1: sat back and smiled. He didn't even throw it back

558
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: at me. And I think you guys are in a

559
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 1: situation now, the you guys you which have been there

560
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: for a while, and this group has been there for

561
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: a while and developing these kids that I don't know

562
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 1: that we'll see another year without a Tennessee player drafted

563
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: for quite some time. I certainly hope that. Oh oh,

564
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: by the way, the last thing before I let you

565
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: go selfishly was there. Uh did Appalachian State put a

566
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: legitimate scare into you guys last year? Yeah? I was

567
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: scared going in, be honest, because you know, scouting those

568
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 1: you knew how tough they were and that those are

569
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: teams are tough to open up with. And uh absolutely,

570
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 1: I mean my word, it was one of those things

571
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 1: you never you always so you always kept going through

572
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: the games when I you know, well, in the end

573
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: will end up eating three touchdowns, you know we'll get

574
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: and they just hung in there, tough kids. Um I was,

575
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: I was. I was upset because you guys, you know,

576
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: I thought we we had a chance to lay in

577
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: the weeds with Miami coming to Boon, which is still

578
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: baffles me that they got Miami to come up there, Uh,

579
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: that we could have a chance. But then after we

580
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,479
Speaker 1: take you guys to overtime, then uh then Miami, we

581
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: weren't weren't sneaking up on them, and they beat the

582
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: brakes off us the following or a couple of weeks later.

583
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: There were many many times during that app State game,

584
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: I'm still wishing Daniel Jeremiah was the quarterback and that

585
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: take Laime over over DJ. Yeah, that's beautiful. Hey, give

586
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: us a name, Give us one name, Give us one

587
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: senior if you can for next year. For for folks

588
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: NFL fans, they're watching the volunteers next year, um as

589
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: somebody that we need to keep an eye on. Well,

590
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: senior wise, it's a little hard because we had three

591
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: great ones leave. Yeah, you know, I've seniors next year

592
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: really are kind of the steady eddies. You know, We've

593
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: got you know, Jay Sean Robertson, who's been a four

594
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: year starter at the University of Tennessee at guard Gardens Center.

595
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: You know, he will be a you know, again, not

596
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 1: one of the fans watch much during the game, but

597
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: he's a He's just a good, good football player. And

598
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: I do think we have the best punter in Trevor

599
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: Daniel in the country. I know that doesn't get three

600
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: on a three sixty dunk. The guy's an athlete. Yes,

601
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 1: he is unbelievable and I really think he's one of

602
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: the best in the country. And then our young kids

603
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: are what you know, we'll have another class of juniors

604
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: that will have to obviously we'll have to make some decisions,

605
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: you know, which is really, let's face it, it's what

606
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,719
Speaker 1: you how you wanted every year, no question, no question,

607
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: you know who's who's the Not not that we're not

608
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: encouraging any of these young kids. I hope they stay

609
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: a Tennessee forever. But just in terms for me, is

610
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: there is there one or two juniors that would be

611
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: fun for me, just enjoyable scouting, just something for me

612
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: to watch over the summer. Can you give me a

613
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: couple of names? Yeah? You know, yeah, I think you know.

614
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: It starts with our linebacker Darren Kirkland. Unfortunate last year

615
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: he had a huge, huge injury in the Virginia Tech

616
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: game and missed the Bowl because the season that was

617
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 1: part of our struggles on defense, and he's such a

618
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: catalyst for us. But if you watch our bowl game

619
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: where he when he was finally healthy, and you know,

620
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: if you were as a scout and just watching the

621
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: first two games and that one, I think he would

622
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: like what you see. And if he stays healthy this year,

623
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: you know, he should have a great year. Force And

624
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: of course, you know, Khalil Mackenzie is always a kid

625
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: you're going to talk about because of his just he's

626
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: a freakishly athletic kid for his size. You know, that's Reggie,

627
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: Reggie mckensy's kid. Yep, and true, you know, true true

628
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: zero noses are hard fine, you know, and I think

629
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: that's a kid that could have you has had a

630
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: good career. Um Unfortunately for him sometimes you know, this

631
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: goes he's having a great play when he's because he's

632
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: getting blocked by three people. You know. Still, you know,

633
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: but as a scout, you look at him from a

634
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: scout's eyes, you know, you see, he does does so

635
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: many good things and so those and then Juwan Jennings,

636
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: I think our receiver who's had a knack for just

637
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: some pierroics over his career short career so far. But

638
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: you know, Juwan's gotta he's kind of got that Derek

639
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: Barnett to him as far as just the toughness and

640
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: a competitiveness that he just can't you know, it's hard

641
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: to match on Saturdays. And so you know, there's just

642
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: a few names there that I think are some guys

643
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: could have really good years. I put him on the list. Man. Well, hey,

644
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking some time out over the summer here.

645
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: I know you're hopefully getting a little bit of downtime

646
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: here before everything really cranks up. Everybody's back on campus.

647
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: You guys are rolling, but uh, I wish the ball

648
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: is the best of luck this next year. And I

649
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: know Charles Davis will be be happy to know that

650
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,239
Speaker 1: we brought to We brought Travo on Bob Welton here

651
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: to discuss, discuss the guys. Man, Hey, thanks a lot

652
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: for your time, Bob, Hey, DJ anytime man. Good good

653
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: talking to you, my friend, and uh hopefully talk soon.

654
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: Great to chat with with Bob Welton. They're getting a

655
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: little Tennessee ball information. I know, Selly, you love that.

656
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: But now I'm excited bringing a good friend here. Shan O'Hara.

657
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: I like to do a proper introduction. He's three time

658
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl or Super Bowl champ, sean starting hunter, thirty

659
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: five games over your career. I want to start with

660
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: the with this with this first question for you. UM,

661
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: I looked it up Joe Thomas hundred sixties straight starts,

662
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: which is ridiculous. But then I looked at Bruce Matthews

663
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: had two d forty four straight starts. Is that the

664
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: dumbest thing you've ever heard as an offensive line? That's insane.

665
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: Bruce should be bottling and selling his blood. Um. You

666
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: know it's funny because everybody made a big deal about

667
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: Brett Farve's record. Uh, you know, Eli is kind of

668
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: pretty good streak right now. I've kind of put quarterbacks

669
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: in their own categories. So yeah, for an off of

670
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: the lineman, and Bruce played at all. I mean he

671
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: moved over to center. You know, he was a guard.

672
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,479
Speaker 1: I think he played tackle too. Um, so you know

673
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: he did it all. It's unbelievable. And here's the craziest part. Two.

674
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: I know a couple of guys that have played with them.

675
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: They said they never saw him with an ice bag,

676
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: ever had an ice bag. He's unbelievable. Like, yeah, he

677
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: never wore an ice bag, never iced anything. Enough. Guy's

678
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: just a machine. Like to explain it to people at home,

679
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: but don't understand as an offensive lineman in the NFL.

680
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: Describe your week, you finish up, you play a Sunday

681
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: afternoon game, Like, how is your body feeling on a

682
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: Monday in a Tuesday? Yeah, well, my first question would

683
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: be what's the service we're playing on? You know, because

684
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: if we're playing on natural grass, I'm gonna feel ten

685
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: times better than if we played on turf. Now, the

686
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: field turf that guys played on now and then I

687
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: played on is ten times better than that artificial turf

688
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: that Bruce Matthews was playing on. And the stuff that

689
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: you probably played on when you know that's what I

690
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: played on in college that was our home field. Was

691
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: that hard turf that would freeze over? Yeah, man, it's

692
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: terrible and you know it with your joints. Would you

693
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: know that that that turf would grab your foot even

694
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: if you were wearing a flat sol shree Uh. So,

695
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: you know, the surface is a big factor, um, especially

696
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: for offensive linemen because you know, no matter how athletic

697
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: you are, at some point you're gonna end up on

698
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: the ground. You know. For me it was when I

699
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: was pan kaing guys, you know. But for some guys

700
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: that's you know, for other reasons. They may fall down,

701
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: our trip or or get beat, but get you're gonna

702
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: get dirt and grass stains on you at some point.

703
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: So that you know, Sunday, like as I got over DJ,

704
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: you know, Monday's um. You know, I always tried to

705
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: come in Monday after a game and get a good workout.

706
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: It just because you want to get the sweat and

707
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: the soreness out of you. Um, you know. Plus um,

708
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: you know I was I was a tort all guy,

709
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: and so I would get a shot out toward all

710
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: on game day and you know it's part of that

711
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: would still be in me on Monday. So I got

712
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: a good workout in with that stealing my body. I

713
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: still I got to work out a little bit harder. Um,

714
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: and you know, the soreness will than as bad. But

715
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: you know, as as I got in my six, seventh, eighth,

716
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: and ninth, and tenth. Later on in my career, Tuesdays

717
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: were the worst days. Monday you would start to feel

718
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: a little bit of source. But Tuesday, sometimes even Monday night,

719
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: depending on how many snaps we had, you know, yeah,

720
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: you typically average about sixty five plays in the game.

721
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: Offensive linement take every single snap. It's not like running

722
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: backs who maybe took thirty snaps, or receivers who are alternating,

723
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: or d lineman who switched. So you feel every one

724
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: of those snaps. And there were a number of times

725
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: where I go out to dinner with my wife on

726
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: Monday night, you know, or with a group of people,

727
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: and you sit down at the dinner table, You're feeling good.

728
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: You know, the lines slowing, the beer slowing, and you

729
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: feel good and then all of a sudden it's time

730
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: to get up and you can't get out of your

731
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: chair because everything is worn off. The soreness is there,

732
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: and um, you know, even in my last couple of years,

733
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: I was sore on Wednesdays. It really wasn't until Thursday

734
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: that I actually started feeling fresh. That's what's so nuts

735
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: about that. When wondering forty four straight starts, I don't

736
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: think Joe, by the way, Joe Thomas, I don't think

737
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: he has missed a snap yet, has he? And you

738
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: almost have to double it for him because how many

739
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: of those games are they actually even in? You know

740
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,239
Speaker 1: you're I mean my question is, how do you how

741
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: does a lot of games? How does your shoe never

742
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: pop off or you you know, you got your helmet

743
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: comes off, you gotta come out? How is he not

744
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: come out for a single play? No, that's what I mean.

745
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: It's like did bricker Shaw Ferguson when he retired and

746
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: they said, look, he missed one snap out of an

747
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: entire career and it was at the end of the game,

748
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: and they put into well Reevas in his place. So

749
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: they could try that last did you ever play? UM?

750
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: It's remarkable. I mean, you know, your chin strap breaks,

751
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: you're you know, you get poked in the eye. You

752
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: know you like you said, your shoe comes off. That's

753
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: it's it's really remarkable. Here's here's what I want to

754
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: get to with you today. I wanted to bring you on.

755
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: I wanted to look at some some categories from last

756
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: year where teams finished in the bottom five and the league,

757
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: and then based off of what they've done in the offseason,

758
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: free agency, the draft and really getting some guys back healthy,

759
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: UH is a big factor as well some coaching changes.

760
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: I thought we maybe could try and pluck some of

761
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: these teams out of the bottom five that we think

762
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: may be able to to to leap all the way

763
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: up into the to the top ten in the league

764
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: at least make a drastic improvement from last year. So

765
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: I'll read off the teams in the categories and just

766
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: see if there's a team that jumps out to you

767
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: that you think could make a make a push here.

768
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 1: Last year rushing offense, UH, the last the bottom five teams,

769
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: the Ravens, the Giants, the Lions, the Rams, the Vikings, UM,

770
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: any of those teams. Is there a team in particularly

771
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: you think could see making a major improvement in the

772
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: run game. Yeah, I think the last two that you

773
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 1: mentioned are gonna be really interesting to watch. Obviously, with Minnesota, um,

774
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 1: you know they've they've they've added two really good running backs.

775
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: I know that losing Adrian Peterson is huge, but um,

776
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: you know he can't replace Adrian Peterson in his prime

777
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: with one guy, so they know that they try to

778
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: do with two guys. They got Latavious Murray from Local

779
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: and who kind of it's a little bit like Adrian,

780
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: and drafted Dalvin Cook. So I think that's a pretty

781
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: remarkable one to punch, provided Dalvin can pick up the offense.

782
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 1: I think coming out this in this year's draft, Dalvin

783
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: was probably the most complete running back. Um. You know,

784
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: obviously a lot of attention was played that paid to

785
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey and how explosive an electric he was and

786
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: full net as well. But when you you know, I know,

787
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: you watched enough film on Dalvin Cook to see how

788
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: many runs he made where he was bouncing off defenders

789
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: and breaking tackles. It just seemed like every single game

790
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: he'd have about five to seven of those of those runs.

791
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: So that'll be good to see him in the question

792
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: obviously with Minnesota and you mentioned the health park, uh

793
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: for them just getting guys healthy, and they signed a

794
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: couple of tackles, Um, you know, Mike Remors and how

795
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: do you like that? How do you like that pair?

796
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: By the way, I was not a big Remorse guy,

797
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean I think the bad taste everybody

798
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: has in them out still from the Super Bowl. You know,

799
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: him playing right tackle and getting beat Um, yeah, I mean,

800
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: while Miller makes a lot of guys look bad. But um,

801
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: you know he actually he moved over to the left

802
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: tackle a couple of times last year for Caroline and

803
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: he played pretty well. Um, so you know that. My

804
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: big question for him is you know, and I think

805
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: it's um Riley Reef, Um, yeah, how are they going

806
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: to play those guys? By the way, Well, Reef play

807
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: the left of the right. I think I think you

808
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: gotta put put a Reef in the left and I

809
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: think Ramors is more of a right tackle. Um. You know,

810
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: here's the question with that offense is if they're going

811
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: to run that shotgun running game. You know, I don't

812
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: think that benefits either one of those tackles, and I

813
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: don't really know how much it benefits Latavious Murray or

814
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook. Um. I think that's one of the reasons

815
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: why Adrian was okay getting out of there. Um. You

816
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: know that that single back run out of out of

817
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: the shotgun position really limits you as a running back.

818
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: You can't cut back. You know, you can cut up,

819
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: and you can press the whole a little bit, but

820
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: when you're running that the run. The run, running the

821
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: football out of that shotgun home position to the left

822
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: or right of the quarterback kind of limits you. So

823
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see Minnesota. But then the other team, um,

824
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure you mentioned it was the Rams.

825
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: I'm really curious to see this offense with Andrew where

826
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: they left tackle, moving Robinson in the gate guard. And

827
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: then really just the Matt Lafleur effect. You know, Matt

828
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: was with Kyle and Alianta, and I thought some of

829
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: the things that Atlanta did in the run game last year,

830
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: we're certainly overshadowed by the passing game, but the way

831
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 1: that they attack defense is to different different running plays

832
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: and running styles that they had from a scheme to

833
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: his own concept to a little bit of trickery. I

834
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: think that's gonna pay some dividends for the Rams in

835
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: that offense. I think they did some things. Hopefully in

836
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 1: the passing game, you get a young quarterback that gets better,

837
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: you bring over Robert Woods. The early returns on Cooper

838
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: Cup have been good. Hopefully they're creative enough to do

839
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: something with Tabo and Austin, so hopefully that will take

840
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: some pressure off Girly too and they can get him

841
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: cranked back up. But passing wise, last year bottom five teams,

842
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: by the way I I started those two teams when

843
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: I went through this as well, the Rams and the

844
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: Vikings in the run game, but passing game Browns just

845
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: to throw something, you know, since I didn't send it

846
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: on Gurly. The one thing that jumped out of me

847
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: last year looking at his runs. You know, the funny

848
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: thing is everybody looks at the run game and they

849
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: look at the yards per carry and it's like, man,

850
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: all if you had a down year, the only average

851
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 1: you know, three and a half yards per carrier four.

852
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: The one thing that you end up missing with that

853
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: a lot of times is the big runs. And he

854
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: didn't have many big runs. You know, two years ago

855
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: he had he had a ton of runs over twenty yards,

856
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: over fifteen yards. Last year, I think he had maybe

857
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 1: you know, ten or less over fifteen to twenty yards.

858
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: They never had that big run play. Um, And I

859
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: think that's that's something that will probably moro from Gurley

860
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, hopefully they needed they needed a big way.

861
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 1: Uh So, the bottom five passing teams, I mentioned the Browns,

862
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: We've got the Texans, the Bills, the Rams, and the Niners.

863
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: I circled the Rams here. I just kind of mentioned

864
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: those improvements they made in the receiver position. Also, I

865
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: was big Gerald Everett fan of the kid they took

866
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: out of the second round out of out of South Alabama.

867
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: Is a really really good player. I think he's got

868
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: a chance to be kind of a mismatch player. But

869
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: really coaching I think makes the biggest difference for them

870
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 1: in the passing game. Are you with me on that one? Yeah?

871
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: And you mentioned some of the receiver editions that they added,

872
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: you know, and maybe not some big splash guys, but

873
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: guys that have ability after the catch, and I think, um,

874
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's where you can really gain a

875
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: lot a lot of that yardage. UM that that'll probably

876
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: boost the offense. You know, you mentioned Talon Austin kind

877
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: of getting him on the run, UM that should help.

878
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the forty niners are probably going

879
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: to be better, and I don't think Brian Horder is

880
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: gonna average three forty yards of game. But I think

881
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: they were dead last last year. I mean they I

882
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 1: think that they could sleeper team in That to me

883
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: is really detections. Um. I just look at the explosive

884
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: that they have at the wide receiver position with DeAndre Hopkins,

885
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: with Graxon Miller, with Will Fuller. UM. I fully expect

886
00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 1: Shawn Watson to be their starter. I think he could

887
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: start a week one. And here's why. You know, you

888
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: look at everything he did in his collegiate career. I

889
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: think he lost three entire games in his whole career

890
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,919
Speaker 1: in college. Um. You know, he finds ways to win.

891
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: And it's not just hey, I'm just out there making

892
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 1: it up. You know, it's not just I'm gonna scramble around.

893
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: And you know these Johnny Manziel type highlight plays. You know,

894
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: he's making big time throws. They're always in big time games.

895
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 1: And he seems to step up and play the best

896
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: when everything's on the line. But I look at the

897
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: Shaun Watson. He's got all the physical tools, but everything

898
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 1: everybody that I've talked to about him, and I'm sure

899
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: you've talked to a lot of people about him, and

900
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: you know you may have heard some of the same things.

901
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: He gets it. And when I say he gets it,

902
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: he gets it on so many levels. Mentally, when you

903
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 1: hear him talk about a game, he can break down

904
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: a throw he missed in the second quarter. Hey, you

905
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 1: know what, We've got a really favorable coverage here. He

906
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: the excellent knows in his mind he's not going to

907
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: struggle with And I think Bill O'Brien, um, you know,

908
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: he the way that he's learned how to attack defenses

909
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: from his time in New England and Norton with Brady,

910
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: and the way that you know his mind works, I

911
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: think he and Deshaun Watson are gonna be a really

912
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: good fit. Yeah, Look, I think it. I think we

913
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: might see Tom Savage for a couple of weeks, but

914
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be long. And you're saying week one,

915
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: I would say by week four, I think would probably

916
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: end up seeing him um for all the reasons that

917
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: you mentioned there. Let's jump over the defensive side of

918
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: the ball here, Sean, this one kind of blew me away.

919
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: Looking at sacks from last year, the bottom five in

920
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: the league. A couple of these teams. Kansas City was

921
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: and sacks last year with all the dudes they got.

922
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: The Jets are sorry they the Jets had twenty seven

923
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: sacks last year. Then you got the Browns Alliance and

924
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: the Raiders. UM in that group, I mean, man, the Jets,

925
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: that's a whole another that's a whole another discussion. But

926
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: the Chiefs in the in the Browns with what they

927
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: did in the draft and those young guys kind of

928
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: coming along. And I think even the Raiders if you

929
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: get a healthy Mario Edwards to kind of tag team

930
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: what they have there with Khalil Mack and and Bruce Irvan. Mean,

931
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: I was kind of surprised to see some of these

932
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: teams down there. I'd expect more than a couple of

933
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: these teams to vault back up near the top ten. Yeah.

934
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: I think the Raiders, you know, shoot, with Bruce Irvan

935
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: and Khalil Mack, you know, they could end up um,

936
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: you know, both having double digits and and and I

937
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: think you know Khalil Mack obviously getting as much attention

938
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: as you did last season. Um, you know he'll choose

939
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: more of that, but he'll be more impactful. Um. I'm

940
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,479
Speaker 1: shocked to hear that the Jets are that that low.

941
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 1: They have no interest. They had seven sacks in week one, Um,

942
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: they get many they got how many after that they got?

943
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: Uh twenty after that? That that's I mean, there's no

944
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: excuse for that when you look at the town. But

945
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 1: they have mean Leonard Williams, Sheldon Richardson, Mohamed Wilkerson, Um,

946
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: you know they they loved the five down defense too,

947
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: so they're all getting one on one matchup. So that

948
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: really tells you how bad that secondary was for the Jets. Um.

949
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: And it also tells you how bad the offense was

950
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: because they want it's getting worse the lead. You know

951
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: they were they were playing four minute defense for for

952
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: a lot of the seat and so that's shocking. Yeah.

953
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: I'm shocked about the Chiefs too, because with with their

954
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: past rushers and with how good their defense has been

955
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 1: and how aggressive they are. Um, you know I would

956
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: stick them to bounce back as well, yeah, I'll be

957
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: interesting to see what happens there. Then overall scoring defense

958
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: UM bottom five here Jets, Chargers, Brown, Saints, forty Niners.

959
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: I identified the charges. I was kind of surprised they

960
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: were that bad this this last year, but they had

961
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: some injuries. You get Jason Brett back. Both and Ingram

962
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: I think are about as good at edge pair as

963
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: we have right now in the league. And I think

964
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: Gus Bradley bringing his his style in his uh kind

965
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: of aggressive nature. I think they've got bodies that plug

966
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 1: in beautifully into terms of how they play their front.

967
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you're gonna see Um Evan Ingram

968
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: will kind of stand up and be that uh, that

969
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: elephant guy for him there. And you've got both that

970
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: you can move up and down the line of scrimmage.

971
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: I know it. Talked to Bucky Brooks earlier today and

972
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: he had just visited with Us Bradley and he was

973
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: pretty pumped up about about what he has to work

974
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 1: with and how these guys fit in. Yeah, I think

975
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: that defense, I mean, when they're they're very physical and

976
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: anytime you'd watch film on on that front, Um, you

977
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: know you mentioned keeping keeping Melvin um you know, I

978
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: think they tagged him. You know, that was huge. You know,

979
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: he plays such a big, such a big role in

980
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: that defense. You know, he can put rush with his

981
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: hand in the dirt or standing up, um, you know,

982
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: both is such a big force. I think their offense,

983
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: their additions to their offense are going to help their defense.

984
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: The fact that they actually invested in in some of

985
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: the offensive line, that's going to help their run game. Um.

986
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: You know, Melvin Gordon obviously had a much better season

987
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: last year, but I think that'll, you know, keep that

988
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: defense fresh. And the other two one of the other

989
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: teams you mentioned. We were just talking about the Jets.

990
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: They're scoring defense. Um, you know, I think that they're

991
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: gonna have a big bounce back here. I know everybody's

992
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: focusing on the offense and the lack thereof UM, but

993
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: that defense with Todd Bowls and how aggressive he likes

994
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: to be, and them getting Jamal Adams with a sixth pick,

995
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're still tickled pink the fact

996
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: that they were able to get that guy um and

997
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: and put him into that defense. It extremely interesting to

998
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: see how these teams kind of spin around San Francisco. Uh,

999
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: Dead last and scoring defense last year gave a thirty

1000
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 1: points a game. I think their offense controlling the clock

1001
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: a little bit more could help them in that regard. Well,

1002
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: and you know there's two you've been around football enough, DJ.

1003
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: When the defense knows you have no shot, they lose

1004
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: their will and and they just kind of you know,

1005
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: the one thing that would happen. You know, I would

1006
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: do these old line of the week awards, and every

1007
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 1: week I would started off with the top rushing offenses. Well,

1008
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: every week it was a four hund of defense given

1009
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: up the two of your games. And you know, when

1010
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: you look at the talent that they have, you know,

1011
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: with how many first rounders they had, the forced Buckner um,

1012
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: you know, Aaronson said, you've got some talented guys. Now

1013
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 1: you add in Solomon Thomas, you had in moving Foster,

1014
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: put him next to the arm bowmen, that defense is

1015
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: gonna look completely different. Well, makes us see how these

1016
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: teams spinning around. Man, I appreciate you taking a little

1017
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: time out of your out of your schedule here what

1018
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: what what? What was that interrupting you from golf? What

1019
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: do you got dinner? What did I keep you from? Actually?

1020
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: I just um, I just went over to the Giant

1021
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: facility and uh, you know, as part of the player

1022
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: development program that that we have going on over there,

1023
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: David Tyree is running the player engagement player development aspect um,

1024
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: and he asked me to come and talk to some

1025
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: of the rookies. So I just had a chance to

1026
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: meet with all of them and got to meet Evan

1027
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: Ingroom and and Dalvin Thomlinson and um, you know, Davi's webb.

1028
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: And I talked to some of those guys and just

1029
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: you know, I had a good opportunity to kind of

1030
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: just tell him what it's like to be a Giant,

1031
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: what's expected of them, and um, you know, just kind

1032
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: of also welcome to them to the family, and and uh,

1033
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: you know, give him a little advice. I love that.

1034
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: Look at that reaching out to reaching out to a

1035
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: former giant. Great bringing him in there and letting you

1036
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: coach these guys up a little bit. What any first

1037
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: impressions from any of those guys, Well, I'll tell you,

1038
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: you know what, these guys are so young. You know,

1039
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe it makes me just feel a

1040
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: little bit old, but seeing how young they are, but um, yeah,

1041
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 1: nothing grabs the room like telling them that, hey, look

1042
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: I made it as a as a walk on at

1043
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: Rutgers an undrafted free agent. I was able to play

1044
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: a lot of years. You guys should be good. You

1045
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: could play twenty Brady wants to playing this fifty five.

1046
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: Tell these guys step it up, let's go. Yeah, Brady's

1047
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: got the He's found the founding of youth. Um. You know,

1048
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: of course playing quarterback helps. Yeah, here you go. Hey, dude,

1049
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: thanks for thanks for taking some time out and jumping

1050
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: on here. I'm hoping to set something up we're working on.

1051
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: We're efforting to get something put together with Seawan where

1052
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: we can get Seaan to come in on a weekly

1053
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: basis during the fall, during the season and kind of

1054
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: give us a little old line segment on Move the Sticks,

1055
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: which would be fantastic. Dude. But hey, thanks for paim

1056
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: out today, buddy. Sounds good. Um, feel free to sending

1057
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: some food my way as bribery. I will take it.

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Speaker 1: I know I know how to get to your heart.

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Speaker 1: Great convers station with Sean love Sean one of my

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Speaker 1: best friends here at the network. So hopefully we can't

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Speaker 1: get something done with him, um joining us on a

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Speaker 1: regular basis during the fall. Looking forward to having him

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Speaker 1: back on the show, and thanks again to Bob Welton

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Speaker 1: for jumping on. But now for the most important part

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Speaker 1: of the podcast. Bucky's not here to help me out here,

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Speaker 1: someone fly solo. But it's it's me Andy's time. That's right.

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Speaker 1: You guys need to elevate your game to the next level.

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Speaker 1: And I'm talking underwear here. That's me. Andy's what is me?

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Speaker 1: And he's not just seriously soft, feel good Andy's delivered

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Speaker 1: right to your door. Uh, they're design and l a

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Speaker 1: made from sustainably sourced what do they made from? Sully micromodal. Micromodal.

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Speaker 1: That's a fabric three times softer than cotton. Me, Andy's

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Speaker 1: softer than soft lux lux. Andy's coming in every changing

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Speaker 1: selection of classic colors, bold shades, and Bucky's favorite adventurous patterns.

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Speaker 1: And so you can tell you're dys to your own

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Speaker 1: personal style. I have them. They're the most comfortable underwear

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Speaker 1: Guess what. You can save time and money each month

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Speaker 1: that's okay, that's and you can save guess we have

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Speaker 1: This is Move the Sticks specific. It is mes dot

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Speaker 1: is automatically applied. You can get a discount on your

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Speaker 1: next pair of pizza underwear. Oh, we've got I love

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Speaker 1: the Love the Panda underwear. I'll tell me. These is

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Speaker 1: the softest things you've ever seen. Rhet Lewis, who's been

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Speaker 1: on the podcast, is a uh. He's one of those

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Speaker 1: guys that subscribes to me and he's because he can't

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Speaker 1: get enough. It's it's the best underwear going. So go

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Speaker 1: ahead revamp your underwear drawer. You deserve it. Once again.

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Speaker 1: That's me dys dot com slash Moved the Sticks. Is

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Speaker 1: that right? Silly? That's right off off your first pair.

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Speaker 1: You won't regret it. And we need to get more

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Speaker 1: people signed up on Move to six than around the NFL,

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Speaker 1: because I know these these guys like to keep score.

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Speaker 1: They they do. They they're the ones that push for

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Speaker 1: these personalized codes for that very reason. And uh, they

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Speaker 1: might have a pretty big lead because their podcast yesterday

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Speaker 1: I know because I produce that as well. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: paints need but go ahead, right right, I know, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: but they they put out a call to call to action.

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Speaker 1: They said at noon today Pacific time, they needed they

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Speaker 1: needed all their listeners to go out and simultaneously go

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Speaker 1: Well here's where here's where I think the Move the

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Speaker 1: Sticks podcast has an advantage. It's not scientific. Our listeners

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Speaker 1: were underwear, okay, so that's what separates us from the

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Speaker 1: NFL podcast. I think we're gonna be able to beat

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Speaker 1: them in this game. Right if it was if we were,

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Speaker 1: you know, talking about, you know, trying to sell toasters

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Speaker 1: or some other gag gifts. Um, you know, maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: around the NFL would have a shot. But not not

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Speaker 1: on this. Not on this are our underwear connoisseurs, and

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna step up. Yeah, this is not

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Speaker 1: the first pair of underwear there that they have been uh,

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Speaker 1: they will purchase, so they know it's just going to

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Speaker 1: replace old underwear. This is not gonna be a new

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Speaker 1: addition to a wardrobe, which would be the case with

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Speaker 1: their listeners. But anyways, I think that's gonna do it

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Speaker 1: for us here today. So they fund episode huh. Great episode.

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Speaker 1: Great episode, talking Hoggis, talking Valls, Beefy, it was fun,

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Speaker 1: all right, good job a BYuT you. Hopefully we have

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Speaker 1: have Bucky back in the mix here soon. We'll get

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Speaker 1: back to rolling here. But that's gonna do it for

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Speaker 1: us today. Thank you for subscribing, Thank you for downloading.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for leaving those comments on iTunes. Appreciate you

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Speaker 1: guys keeping those coming. Uh. We are having a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun here in the off season, and I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you football is right around the corner. We've got you

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Speaker 1: covered from now until then and already coming up with

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Speaker 1: some some fun ideas for the fall. I think you

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Speaker 1: guys are going to appreciate. Until then, we'll see you

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Speaker 1: next time. Thanks for downloading Move the Sticks with Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. For more, go to NFL dot

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Speaker 1: com Slash Podcasts.