WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: 8-13-24

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<v Speaker 3>This is the Players Lounge broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 4>Let's go owners of the Dallas Cowboys here at the

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<v Speaker 4>Harrison in the house, very Church, former Cowboys safety. I

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<v Speaker 4>am merely new, he scrugs. Damam day off. So Players

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<v Speaker 4>Lounge by you buy Aristocrat.

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<v Speaker 2>Trey Lance. Let's just go right.

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<v Speaker 4>Cowboys thirteen twelve. Let's just go right there to Trey Lance.

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<v Speaker 4>This is about Trey LANs need to see what Trey

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<v Speaker 4>Lance could do. I need grades, gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 2>Heckman, you gonna go to me first, right out the

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<v Speaker 2>bud off the But all right, I'm going you know what.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, what I'm not gonna do is make Trey Lance

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<v Speaker 5>my whipping boy for the off season, for the for

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<v Speaker 5>the preseason. I go to do that, okay, And I

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<v Speaker 5>was I was judging him according to each throw and

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<v Speaker 5>I came away with a C minus. I came away

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<v Speaker 5>with a C minus performance. I mean, it's easy to

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<v Speaker 5>say D or F, but C minus. He gave you

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<v Speaker 5>some things athletically that it was like, oh, okay, I

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<v Speaker 5>see you know six four twenty five, got wills, what

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<v Speaker 5>can run? But he missed on a lot and and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, Babe and the Bill, the broadcast, everybody, they

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<v Speaker 5>didn't you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, they didn't let him go on it.

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<v Speaker 5>They shown him, they circled it up and just let

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<v Speaker 5>him know, Hey, he's missing some spots. Mechanics is and

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<v Speaker 5>all the way there. And I think it's a byproduct

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<v Speaker 5>of the time that he hasn't played in the league.

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<v Speaker 5>But I can I can still see the potential and

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<v Speaker 5>why they're buying in to Trey Lance. I asked some

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<v Speaker 5>other questions. I'm sure we're going to get into that

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<v Speaker 5>about Trey Lance, but that's my grade that I give

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<v Speaker 5>him SI minus.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, I'm with you on the C minus.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna go ahead and get I was gonna hit

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<v Speaker 6>him with the D bud pause, but I'm gonna give

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<v Speaker 6>him the C minus because, like you said, he showed

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<v Speaker 6>some athleticism out there. And what I was most impressed

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<v Speaker 6>with is he had a conscious effort to not only

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<v Speaker 6>do it with his legs, but he wanted to show

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<v Speaker 6>you that he can do it from the pocket as well.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, they let him out there throw it I

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<v Speaker 6>think forty one times out there, only threw for a

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<v Speaker 6>buck eighty eight, but he didn't turn the ball over

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<v Speaker 6>and he did have a lot of drops out there. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>he was playing with a lot of young casts that

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<v Speaker 6>are you know, trying to make the team and are

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<v Speaker 6>just now starting to get their legs fresh when it

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<v Speaker 6>comes to the NFL, So.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a lot of drops. But overall, like you said, heck.

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<v Speaker 6>He he really wasn't accurate, really wasn't accurate at all,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, at a at all the quarterbacks that played

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<v Speaker 6>in that game, I think it was sets and Ben

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<v Speaker 6>played all for the ram. Yeah, you know everyone Trey

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<v Speaker 6>Lass and then you had you know, Cooper Rush, who

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<v Speaker 6>throw an absolute dime earlier in that game.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I think he was the second best

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback out there.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, he showed his athleticism as far as getting

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<v Speaker 6>away from the rush if he needed to, and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>he had a couple of good throws out there, but

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<v Speaker 6>for the most part, he just wasn't accurate, and he

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<v Speaker 6>looked like a guy that you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, you would think, Okay, man, this guy must be

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<v Speaker 2>a rookie.

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<v Speaker 6>No, this this guy's been in a league a while, yes,

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<v Speaker 6>you know he And what's most disappointing is, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>you get with the quarterback Whisper and Mike McCarthy going

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<v Speaker 6>on year two, and you know, it's just we just

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<v Speaker 6>haven't seen that improvement. You know, you would think you would,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, get into this game and he's going against

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<v Speaker 6>vanilla defenses and the twos and the threes for the Rams.

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<v Speaker 6>He ain't going against the starters, and he wasn't even

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<v Speaker 6>able to pick those guys apart like I thought he

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<v Speaker 6>would be able to. He still reminds me of the

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<v Speaker 6>guy that, you know, was fresh out of college in

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<v Speaker 6>North Dakota State with seventeen starts, you know, not not

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<v Speaker 6>that much improvement.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's been in the league a little bit.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm gonna give him a C minus because he

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<v Speaker 6>showed me that he he was able and conscious effort

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<v Speaker 6>to go out there and try to do it with

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<v Speaker 6>his arm, not.

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<v Speaker 2>Just his legs.

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<v Speaker 6>But I just got to see more improvement, more commandity offense.

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<v Speaker 6>Hopefully we'll see that going into the preseason games. Six

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<v Speaker 6>attempts forty four yards using his legs. That right there

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<v Speaker 6>took him out of the D category because this is

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<v Speaker 6>an aspect of the game as a quarterback. If you

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<v Speaker 6>can use your feet pick up some yardage, this will

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<v Speaker 6>help you. So we know Tray can do that. So

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<v Speaker 6>he did that.

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<v Speaker 4>But otherwise, in terms of passing throwing the football here,

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<v Speaker 4>twenty five completions on forty one attempts one hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>eight yards. That's not cutting it. That's not cutting it.

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<v Speaker 4>Cooper Rush is number two quarterback lockings right now, just

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<v Speaker 4>put it in there. That's what's going to happen. He's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be your backup quarterback. And with all due respect,

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<v Speaker 4>you know they've cut down the preseason games, so we

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<v Speaker 4>know the last preseason game Church you've played in, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean that's you know that you're not going to get

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<v Speaker 4>anything there. So you've got this next one coming up here,

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<v Speaker 4>and this is not gonna he's not gonna be able

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<v Speaker 4>to do enough in one preseason game to say for

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<v Speaker 4>anybody to say, hey, this is our number two guy.

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<v Speaker 4>So this point in time, it's going to be Cooper

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<v Speaker 4>Rush is the number two back up to Dak Prescott.

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<v Speaker 4>Trey Lance is going to be the number three guy.

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<v Speaker 4>He's just gonna have to try to keep on improving.

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<v Speaker 4>I will give him this grace. This is where you

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<v Speaker 4>hope Mike McCarthy and Scott Tolzen can keep working with him.

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<v Speaker 2>I will go back to Cooper Rush.

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<v Speaker 4>There was a point in time when Cooper Rush lost

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<v Speaker 4>his job here, was cut, then had to go play

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<v Speaker 4>for Jason Garrett and the Giants came back and he improved.

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<v Speaker 4>So to me, the grace I'm giving Trey Lance is

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<v Speaker 4>simply this. We have seen in this league, guys who

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<v Speaker 4>can improve, Guys who can can.

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<v Speaker 2>Start get better.

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<v Speaker 4>Nick Foles absolutely never thought Nick Foles would be sitting

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<v Speaker 4>up here as a Super Bowl winning quarterback and an

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<v Speaker 4>MVP who, oh, by the way, beat Bill Belichick.

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<v Speaker 2>But he improved, he got better.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm looking at Trey Lance's that's the high end of

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<v Speaker 4>what I believe he could do.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep staying in this one system.

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<v Speaker 4>Hopefully they signed Dak Prescott and maybe in twenty five

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<v Speaker 4>he could eventually go and become a backup quarterback. But

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<v Speaker 4>right now, with where the season is going and what's

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<v Speaker 4>going on here, there's not gonna be enough time for

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<v Speaker 4>Trey Lance to be the number two quarterback in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, guys, look, I'm not pairing no that I don't

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<v Speaker 5>believe in conspiracy theories, but I was shocked at forty

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<v Speaker 5>one passes. I was okay, and I'm just saying, I

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<v Speaker 5>know it's preseason and it's not a lot to make

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<v Speaker 5>of that, but if you look around the rest of

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<v Speaker 5>the league, that just was a lot, you know, as

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<v Speaker 5>far as his average. And to me, we left out

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<v Speaker 5>of here on Friday and I was talking about he's

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<v Speaker 5>not a bargainship and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>Just get Dak signed the whole nine.

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<v Speaker 5>But just based off of their actions in the place

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<v Speaker 5>that they put him in, I'm like, hey, this is

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<v Speaker 5>a let's see what we got under the hood kind

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<v Speaker 5>of a situation right now for Trey Lance. And I

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<v Speaker 5>don't blame him, because what would we be saying right

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<v Speaker 5>now if Trey Lance went out there and he was

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<v Speaker 5>twenty five or thirty two through for three hundred and

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<v Speaker 5>fifteen yards and had two tuddies in certain precis controversy,

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<v Speaker 5>because that's what you'd be talking about he'd be talking

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<v Speaker 5>about what look the Cowboys embarrassing embarrassments of riches at

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<v Speaker 5>the quarterback position. They have a decision to make it

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<v Speaker 5>looks like Trey Lance is the air appearing things like that.

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<v Speaker 5>So look, like I said, he's not going to be

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<v Speaker 5>my whipping boy. I know that he has a lot

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<v Speaker 5>to his game that is going to be desired to

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<v Speaker 5>be c you can get he Look, tell me if

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<v Speaker 5>I'm right or wrong on this, But when it comes

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<v Speaker 5>down to quarterbacks in the league, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 5>be the most athletic guy. Just stand there and deliver

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<v Speaker 5>the mail. If these guys are running these routes, make

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<v Speaker 5>sure that you get it to them. And as many,

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<v Speaker 5>plenty of times that he was missing guys wide open,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's just.

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<v Speaker 2>Not even my belief. This is like the football Bible.

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<v Speaker 5>A good wide receiver can't make a bad quarterback look good,

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<v Speaker 5>but a good quarterback can make a bad wide receiver

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<v Speaker 5>at least look decent.

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<v Speaker 4>The touchdown, it was a touchdown. The fan that he

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<v Speaker 4>just miss trade miss Oh well, oh yeah, he just missing.

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<v Speaker 4>You've got to make that kind of throw. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>where I go back into just the grace all right,

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<v Speaker 4>young player, they'll go back. You look at the film

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<v Speaker 4>and he's got to be able to hit that, and

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<v Speaker 4>you hope that he can do that against the raiders

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<v Speaker 4>coming up here if you get that opportunity again. But

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<v Speaker 4>if I'm head coach Mike McCarthy and this is my

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<v Speaker 4>last contract, hey man, Cooper Rush, you the guy Trey Lance,

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<v Speaker 4>keep working over here. We'll keep on seeing how we

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<v Speaker 4>can make you better. He should play a whole lot

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<v Speaker 4>against the raiders, and you just keep on trying to

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<v Speaker 4>feed him and see where it can go. But I

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<v Speaker 4>just think at this point, heck, we have to really

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<v Speaker 4>just be realistic about this and say, this is a

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<v Speaker 4>project right now, this is a Trey Lance project. I

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't give up on the project. But it's a project, though,

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<v Speaker 4>why not?

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<v Speaker 2>Why not? Okay, Cooper Rush is up at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the year. Yeah, it'll be thirty Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you want to keep going there or at some

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<v Speaker 4>point in time because it's going to cost you, by

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<v Speaker 4>the way, because this is a good back.

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<v Speaker 2>A player who knows hit you about five you don't

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<v Speaker 2>hit you in trades.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll spend that trade trades, and that the prices will

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<v Speaker 4>be falling Okay, with that Walmart rollbacks, that contract gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be the Walmart roller.

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<v Speaker 7>Bay great value, great value. Okay, I'm bought. That's the

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<v Speaker 7>great value.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes he is.

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<v Speaker 2>So dude, we got to.

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<v Speaker 4>Pay Micael right, So Coop, I can't give you a

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<v Speaker 4>five million, But Tray I got.

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<v Speaker 9>I got two capt crunch it's the parrot crunch over.

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<v Speaker 9>You do the Ritos, Fruddy Stone, you know, got Frudy Stone.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh man, you know you have doing all the negotiating

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<v Speaker 5>for on his mixed contract right here on the players

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<v Speaker 5>last man just telling the.

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<v Speaker 2>Man where he is.

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<v Speaker 5>And look, I mean even if you look at the

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<v Speaker 5>San Francisco forty nine is where he was in Shanahan's system,

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<v Speaker 5>and Shanahan is playing with perde mister irrelevant. I mean

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<v Speaker 5>with that, they were all in on Trey Lance. So

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<v Speaker 5>they I'm just talking about what they traded to get him.

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<v Speaker 5>What they traded, what they gave away to get him,

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<v Speaker 5>led me to believe that they were all in on him.

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<v Speaker 2>He came in and showed them that he didn't have it.

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<v Speaker 5>And sometime, based on your point, it's like what if

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<v Speaker 5>a guy just don't just have it?

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<v Speaker 4>Some guys don't have it Kyle got talked into that,

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<v Speaker 4>he got talked to.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't want it.

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<v Speaker 4>They talked to Lynch and can't remember that guy. They

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<v Speaker 4>management was like this this dude and it's crazy. This

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<v Speaker 4>dude was like in a mac jone.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah yeah, but had that work out, but he was

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<v Speaker 5>he loved.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, they loved Kirk Cousins.

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<v Speaker 4>That's who they truly wanted back in the day, but

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<v Speaker 4>they had to go sell and get Garoppolo. So Purty

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<v Speaker 4>fits the kind of guys that Shanahan wants here and

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<v Speaker 4>Trey Lance when they saw he could do he shan quick.

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<v Speaker 2>If you see a guy can't do it but you didn't,

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<v Speaker 2>don't keep holding hanging on to it.

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<v Speaker 5>It ain't the thriller's gone, baby, But you know you're

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<v Speaker 5>trying to talk yourself into that's what you do.

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<v Speaker 2>Know what you doing? Look at what Look at what

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<v Speaker 2>you got out of Cooper Rush?

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<v Speaker 5>Right, Okay, this man sat around here is with Garrett Gilbert.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. He buried Cooper Rush.

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<v Speaker 4>You never would have thought Cooper Rush on Sunday n

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<v Speaker 4>football through for thre hundred dards beat Minnesota Bikas on

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<v Speaker 4>Halloween night.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, that's true.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all I'm talking about here is could he get

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<v Speaker 4>to this point. Matt Hasselback is a guy we saw

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<v Speaker 4>in Green Bay as a fifth rounder who kept improving

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<v Speaker 4>and in eventually got Trey has not played. You mentioned

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<v Speaker 4>it before we started looking at he didn't play a

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<v Speaker 4>lot in college football. The problem for the forty nine

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<v Speaker 4>ers and everybody else who was doing the evaluating is

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<v Speaker 4>you evaluated a guy who didn't play. Same thing with

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<v Speaker 4>Mitchell Trubisky that thirteen starts at North Carolina and with

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<v Speaker 4>third team all a sec. Yeah, he's gonna get drafted

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<v Speaker 4>before my Homes and Deshaun. There was misevaluate all day long,

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<v Speaker 4>and so you've misevaluated him.

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<v Speaker 2>You gave up afore. If he played for the forty

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<v Speaker 2>nine Ers that year, they would have got No. Four.

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<v Speaker 2>He'd have been like Fields getting a six.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, you know it had been a giveaway, But because

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<v Speaker 4>it happened before the season, you had to give up

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<v Speaker 4>before and you met.

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<v Speaker 2>The price tag.

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<v Speaker 4>But now you're just seeing, hey, there's a little more

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<v Speaker 4>work to go here. So before I throw him overboard,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just simply saying, heck, if you have the player

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<v Speaker 4>for this year's under contract, if you bring it back

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<v Speaker 4>next year under Dak Prescott and you get him.

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<v Speaker 2>At your price?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that the world's worst thing? Now, you can still

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<v Speaker 4>go out and look for another quarterback. You should still

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<v Speaker 4>keep looking, But if you're working with the player. And

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<v Speaker 4>I had to have Mike McCarthy and Scott Tolzine tell me,

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<v Speaker 4>Jerry Jones, general manager, we are seeing some progress, We're

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<v Speaker 4>seeing some things.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'd have to see. And if they tell me, nah, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>we tried, we did what we could. We had a

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<v Speaker 2>whole year. We may need to look on. I would

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<v Speaker 2>do that too.

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<v Speaker 4>But you're also go being a driver's seat, because what

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<v Speaker 4>options would he have if he spends the whole years

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<v Speaker 4>a third quarterback and he doesn't really play.

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<v Speaker 2>Ain't be whole bunch to be a running out there sat.

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<v Speaker 5>The problem with that is Mike McCarthy doesn't have a

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<v Speaker 5>whole lot of time either with this situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's why he's gonna be your number three.

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<v Speaker 4>But that whole practice time when they spend, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>when when they have another year to keep on trying

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<v Speaker 4>to improve the play. And I just once again, I

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<v Speaker 4>go back to what I saw with Cooper Rush, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think That's a heck of a lot of credit

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<v Speaker 4>to give McCarthy and his staff because I never envisioned

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<v Speaker 4>Cooper Rush being what he is now, which is, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 4>if Dak is down, this dude can keep you in

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<v Speaker 4>the game. He's shown you I'll keep the ship afloat.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, we can stay in first. Only issue with

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<v Speaker 4>that is that's when he snaps.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you think a third string quarterback is going to

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<v Speaker 6>get out there running?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he going to be able to improve that much?

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<v Speaker 2>Within the system?

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<v Speaker 6>Cooper Rush was a backup, so he was taking at least,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, three or four out of the ones reps

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<v Speaker 6>during practice with the regular one threw out there, so

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<v Speaker 6>he was able to improve that way. When we talk

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<v Speaker 6>about your third stream quarterback, you know he may get

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<v Speaker 6>a couple scout team reps when when Cooper Rush is

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<v Speaker 6>like a let me, let me take a breather, he

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<v Speaker 6>may get some scout team reps, but for sure he's

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<v Speaker 6>not gonna get any first and.

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<v Speaker 5>Now we're talking about a roster spot right now? Are

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<v Speaker 5>we talking about a roster spot for him as well? So,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, this is just one of those you're in

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<v Speaker 5>a pickle if you're going to continue down this road

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<v Speaker 5>and this guy doesn't eminently develop into what you're what

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<v Speaker 5>you want?

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<v Speaker 4>Keep going on this, it's pretty cool. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 4>get up, Let's get our first break in here. Hey yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>chew doga going to miss time. The Cowboys left tackle

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<v Speaker 4>Let us dive into the news of the day, which

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<v Speaker 4>is too much Ydoga the Cowboys left tackle. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>miss some time, tard Archer reporting he's gonna miss time

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<v Speaker 4>into the regular season with a toe injury here, So

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<v Speaker 4>that means Tyler Geydon come on down. The rookie out

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<v Speaker 4>of Oklahoma took twenty one snaps against the Rams in

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<v Speaker 4>their preseason game, and to me, I'm looking at it

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<v Speaker 4>right now as okay, here's Tyler Guiden.

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<v Speaker 2>Got to get him ready.

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<v Speaker 4>Their first game is against Cleveland and Differensive player of

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<v Speaker 4>the Year Miles Garrett and awesome Richards kid they took

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<v Speaker 4>out of North Carolina on Day three last year. It

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<v Speaker 4>is time for these two gentlemen to get a whole

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<v Speaker 4>lot of reps here at left tackle.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's my opinion. How you looking at it, Church,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you on that one.

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<v Speaker 6>It's time. It's time for the man to go in there.

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<v Speaker 6>And one thing I will say is when he did

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<v Speaker 6>get those snaps, we didn't hear his name called, which

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<v Speaker 6>is a good thing when you were talking about the

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<v Speaker 6>offensive line, because that means he wasn't out there just getting.

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<v Speaker 2>Holding or being ran through anything like that. Now, now

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<v Speaker 2>it's his time.

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<v Speaker 6>He's gonna be able to jail with those Number one

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<v Speaker 6>crew and see what they got because we've seen through

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<v Speaker 6>these past couple of years. Like you always say this,

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<v Speaker 6>the season is long. The season is long, so you're

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<v Speaker 6>gonna need as much depth as possible. So for these

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<v Speaker 6>two young gentlemen to get in there and get as

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<v Speaker 6>many reps as possible, it's just increasing that fluidity that

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<v Speaker 6>they're going to have through that offensive line. So for me,

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<v Speaker 6>I think, you know, hopefully I Dooga gets healthy. Well,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, we never want to see anybody go down,

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<v Speaker 6>but I think it's time for Gutting to go in

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<v Speaker 6>there and solidify.

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<v Speaker 2>His position at that left tackle.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, man, that left tackle position is so vital to

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<v Speaker 5>the success of everything that you do on offense. And

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<v Speaker 5>I appreciate the way that the coaching staff, the scouts,

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<v Speaker 5>everybody's looking at this and bringing this guy along slowly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>and my little alarm that he doesn't start the game, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I am, But I do think that these joint practices

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<v Speaker 5>are going to be very good for him and his development.

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<v Speaker 5>But my thing is, if he ain't there, he ain't there, right,

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<v Speaker 5>how long are we going to keep this project going

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<v Speaker 5>Because we're not gonna put Dak in harm's way with

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<v Speaker 5>a left tackle that is missing reaching and we've already

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<v Speaker 5>gone through with this what this whole schedule is about,

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<v Speaker 5>all right?

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<v Speaker 11>And so.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, yes, there are there are some things that I think,

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<v Speaker 5>especially coming up to the Saturday game with the Chumidoga injury.

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<v Speaker 5>Are they going to start him? How much is he

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<v Speaker 5>going to play? How much are we going to get

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<v Speaker 5>to see? We haven't seen those little bits and reels

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<v Speaker 5>that the Cowboy media department always flits out there. Oh guys,

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<v Speaker 5>why is that missing? I think he's missing for a reason.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's see what that reason is.

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<v Speaker 13>What to do?

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<v Speaker 2>I have a question? What you got? What's your plan?

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<v Speaker 2>B give me? Heck ma Harrison playing B Well, my players,

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<v Speaker 2>guy can't go or if he just ain't got it,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't get it. If you got it, but what

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<v Speaker 2>you got?

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<v Speaker 13>You know?

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<v Speaker 5>I think you know, Church alluded to this last week

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<v Speaker 5>we were talking about Tyler Smith. You know, we were

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<v Speaker 5>talking about Tyler Smith and realizing that you do have

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<v Speaker 5>that bargainship there, You do have a player that you recognize,

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<v Speaker 5>even with like Zach Barton a little while ago. You look,

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<v Speaker 5>you're not going to start the season with a guy

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<v Speaker 5>that's gonna put you in any danger. And so when

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<v Speaker 5>I came away from the game and just watching completely

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<v Speaker 5>the offensive line, you know, I go back to my guy,

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<v Speaker 5>Cooper Cooper bb EMA all day.

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<v Speaker 11>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>You have a guy that you can bump out to

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<v Speaker 5>the left guard position and also play Tyler Smith at

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<v Speaker 5>the left tackle. Now, that's that's breaking the glass, hitting

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<v Speaker 5>the red button. That's I just say that, I did you.

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't said that, Yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 5>But you have a guy that you recognize right now

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<v Speaker 5>that Look, he's got some developing to do, and these

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<v Speaker 5>next couple of weeks are gonna be crucial for him.

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<v Speaker 5>And if they they're gonna be putting him out on

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<v Speaker 5>an island. And if they can't trust him, no, you

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<v Speaker 5>don't do that. If you can't put him out there

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<v Speaker 5>on an island and man.

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<v Speaker 2>But literally, okay, so it's awesome Richards. You know you

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<v Speaker 2>can't put him out against Miles Garrett.

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<v Speaker 4>You put nobody in their right minds in this league

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<v Speaker 4>is gonna put somebody out on the island with with

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<v Speaker 4>Miles Garrett. Unless you your boy out of San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 4>There's not very many people who can go there one

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<v Speaker 4>on one with him.

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<v Speaker 5>You're gonna have to get on any offenses that are

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<v Speaker 5>going to, you know, weld a tight end to the

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<v Speaker 5>end of their left tackle. Either that's gonna handicap your

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<v Speaker 5>entire offense. You're gonna go quick, You're gonna run at him,

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<v Speaker 5>You're gonna you're gonna try and maneuver as much as

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<v Speaker 5>you possibly can, but you just kill. If that's what

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<v Speaker 5>you do, then you're limiting everything you do. If you

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<v Speaker 5>have to play twelve, if you have to play twelve,

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<v Speaker 5>if that's not what your system is. We're not gonna

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<v Speaker 5>change our system for one guy. We're gonna believe that

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<v Speaker 5>we can continue to run our system, but we're not

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<v Speaker 5>gonna pu Dak in a position where he's sitting back

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<v Speaker 5>there through on him on an island by himself in

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<v Speaker 5>past pro That's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you don't want no, Chaz Green episode is you

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<v Speaker 2>don't want that? No, I don't want any of that.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, this is all this is our worst case scenario.

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<v Speaker 4>Throw a tight end out here, I'll throw I'll put

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<v Speaker 4>hundred liftkeys, my fool, but I'll put them out there

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<v Speaker 4>to make a rookie.

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<v Speaker 2>Left tackle against against Miles Garrett cannot be out here

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<v Speaker 2>left one on one, trust him. I completely agree on

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be in eighty six sixty is gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>that's gonna be right.

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<v Speaker 5>What I'm saying is that's gonna limit. That's gonna be

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<v Speaker 5>limit so much of your office by doing it. But

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<v Speaker 5>look that, and I agree with what you said. It

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<v Speaker 5>is you can bring a hundred lifty and chip on

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<v Speaker 5>a guy like Miles Garrett. You gotta do every You

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<v Speaker 5>gotta throw the kitchen sink at him. Oh and by

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<v Speaker 5>the way, he's got some other guys up front that

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<v Speaker 5>can get there too. So I'm I'm just saying that

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<v Speaker 5>as much as we're talking about Miles Garrett, there's still

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<v Speaker 5>other threats to go with, you know, a Schwartz defense.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, sure, but I'm at least making sure that threat

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't get to me because I know he'll. I know

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<v Speaker 4>he'll take a game record, right, he'll tear it up.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, if you don't, then Dak, ain't you know

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<v Speaker 4>you I got four receiver. Dak can't go see notnhe

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<v Speaker 4>because look it might be like that anyway. Fine, but

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<v Speaker 4>I'll throw school Maker. School Maker. You you sit up

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<v Speaker 4>here with guiding you two together. I will I will

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<v Speaker 4>sacrifice a receiver in a route to make sure I

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<v Speaker 4>got a tight end sitting up there with Guidon, to

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<v Speaker 4>make sure we can slow down Miles geartt Yes, Swartz

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<v Speaker 4>can do some other blitzes and loop other guys. That's fine,

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm not about to leave Miles Garrett one on one,

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<v Speaker 4>no more than I'm leaving Michael Parsons one on one

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<v Speaker 4>or JJ Why.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's certain guys in this league. You leave

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<v Speaker 2>one on one, you ask him for a problem.

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<v Speaker 5>I completely got I got you on that. I agree

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<v Speaker 5>with you to a certain extent. That's all so to

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<v Speaker 5>a certain degree.

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<v Speaker 4>I just I just see the Chazz Chaz Green then

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<v Speaker 4>bringing Byron Bell still leaving the.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude ugly to the game.

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<v Speaker 4>I go to Tyrants, said Tyrant, I mean as a practice,

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<v Speaker 4>I why why do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? I got when they did it, when Tyrone was

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<v Speaker 2>out there one on one, but I was like, they're

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<v Speaker 2>not you.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like, that's just what we do, and to me,

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<v Speaker 4>that's the coaching mount feast the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Chances.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, we're talking about Tyron Smith while he's playing for

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<v Speaker 4>the Jets this year. You look at the band's resume.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it is a Hall of fame conversation resume that

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<v Speaker 4>they should be having in King. I don't know if

0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:38.280
<v Speaker 4>he gets in, but his name, his candidacy should be

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<v Speaker 4>discussed in the room and the ability in this league

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<v Speaker 4>for a guy like that to hey, man, we can

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<v Speaker 4>leave him out there one on one, you know, if

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<v Speaker 4>it's Tyring, if it's old Tyrannt Smith not Tying. Now, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>he can go out here and handle my Miles Garet

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<v Speaker 4>one on one and ju he could do that. These

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<v Speaker 4>other guys haven't done it. And for a guy like

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<v Speaker 4>Geydon and heck, you notice he's playing right absolutely now

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<v Speaker 4>you're going left.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So now, I mean, and I that's a difference.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to be gross about it, but one

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<v Speaker 4>lineman said, it's like trying to take a different hand

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 4>that you normally wipe yourself with and go with the other.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a difference if you going to the left versus

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<v Speaker 2>you're using it right. It's a difference.

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<v Speaker 4>And so you're already asking him to make a change,

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:25.520
<v Speaker 4>and that it's a big change. That's something we're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>help you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And I'm just saying game planning right now. I'm

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:30.920
<v Speaker 5>sure that Mike McCarthy and his staff is already game

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<v Speaker 5>planning for that Cleveland game. And if it's with their

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<v Speaker 5>rookie left tackle, then that brings a whole nother dynamic

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<v Speaker 5>to it because of the matchup.

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<v Speaker 2>Matchup.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm only relating this to my experience when Terrence Steel

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:46.320
<v Speaker 5>started at right tackle, because you know, he wasn't the strongest,

0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 5>wasn't the fastest, got beat, he was off balance a lot,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and how they tried to help him with

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:53.920
<v Speaker 5>tight ends and stuff and chipping on guys going out

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<v Speaker 5>that way. They just couldn't just completely send the guy

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<v Speaker 5>over there help him for the entire game. There's just

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<v Speaker 5>That's all I'm saying. And I think he's gonna be

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<v Speaker 5>a liability no matter what. I just want to know,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think we all want to know how confident

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 5>we can be in him going into Week one. Right now,

0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 5>it's the great unknown. We haven't seen it. We're seeing

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 5>it wrong. Between twenty snaps, that's none at all. And

0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:17.959
<v Speaker 5>so that proof consistency, we have none of it, all right,

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:23.080
<v Speaker 5>you don't. And so not only that now, it even

0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:26.639
<v Speaker 5>goes further than that from Cleveland to New Orleans to Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean he has the kitchen sinks being thrown at

0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:32.960
<v Speaker 5>him at the beginning stealers. Absolutely, So it is a

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:35.400
<v Speaker 5>trial by fire. Who is going to be in that fire?

0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 5>Is it gonna be your rookie? Because I think in

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<v Speaker 5>one hand, this coaching chaff isn't going to throw him

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:44.080
<v Speaker 5>to the wolves as if he's not ready because of

0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:46.240
<v Speaker 5>what you just said, he's going from right to left

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:49.240
<v Speaker 5>the learning curve is if he isn't taking on that

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:51.720
<v Speaker 5>learning curve gracefully, and we need to give this guy

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:52.159
<v Speaker 5>rich I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean it's gonna be if he has a red shirt year.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh lo, there's gonna be a lot of articles written

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<v Speaker 2>on that.

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<v Speaker 4>So this joint practice against the Rams is going to

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<v Speaker 4>be huge for guiding and awesome Richards as you start

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:11.440
<v Speaker 4>to see, hey, hey, hey guys, we need you to

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 4>start to come forward and make these advances. And this

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 4>is this is where your coaching staff really has to

0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 4>come in with flying colors of Okay, we've got three

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:23.400
<v Speaker 4>guys that we have to get ready at left tackle, Guidon,

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:26.760
<v Speaker 4>Richards and Smith to figure out what are the combination

0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 4>is going to be not just you know for that

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:31.359
<v Speaker 4>we know injuries happen too, so so you've got to

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:33.920
<v Speaker 4>have these three guys get ready to go. I know

0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:36.119
<v Speaker 4>Barry hates pro football focused numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, here us with it. Hit us. I see that.

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<v Speaker 13>You want.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I tell you what pro football focus like this

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:56.160
<v Speaker 4>is where you lose people. The way the coaching staff

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 4>is not looking at this and saying here's a solution.

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<v Speaker 2>This is high grated cowboys, wasn't it? It was a man?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, which which goes back to with the scouts toys,

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 4>like they don't know what it is that we're looking

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 4>for what we're asking you guys, so they're just going

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:11.920
<v Speaker 4>off wace of what they see. All right, let's get

0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:16.159
<v Speaker 4>our second break in here. And boy, I feel like

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:17.160
<v Speaker 4>I just brought the house down.

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 2>You did a little bit. You did a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to talk about the defense and inter anything

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:24.000
<v Speaker 2>like that. We're dealing truth, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>If we go dealing truth, must be able to tell it,

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<v Speaker 4>take it and live it. So we would do that next.

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<v Speaker 4>And yes, there were four interceptions. There were should have

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<v Speaker 4>been five possible was giving it away like Thanksgiving dinner?

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<v Speaker 4>go to defense. Now, it's okay that cowboy run game.

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<v Speaker 2>Brother, Ugh, my brother showed up.

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<v Speaker 4>Brotherlik David carries eighteen yards.

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<v Speaker 2>That's averaged two point three. We go Downald three.

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<v Speaker 4>He carries fourteen yards average four point seven and no

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<v Speaker 2>You know I was looking for and I was looking

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<v Speaker 2>for the sweet feet up.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, I'm just assuming that Mike's got some big plans

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<v Speaker 4>and he's like, I'm not gonna bay listen to preseason,

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<v Speaker 4>keep it under wraps, and then could cleanly catch him.

0:31:54.760 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Pa Schwartz will be like, oh my god, oh my god.

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 2>I can think. Mike was like, man, so yeah, don't

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:15.320
<v Speaker 2>even say anything. He We're just talking about talking about

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 2>your defense. Don't say no. Can I talk about the defense?

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 13>Now?

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 2>The game man say his name, Al Harris.

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 5>Say his name. Look, I know Mike, Mike is gonna

0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 5>get a lot of credit if this defense is successful.

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 5>But I think just the overall conscious of this defense

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:37.280
<v Speaker 5>is Al Harris. And you can see it on the sideline.

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 5>You can see his interaction with players. It was number

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 5>thirty seven Eric Scott. He made the area like the

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 5>what was it out of back? Yeah, he pushed the

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 5>guy abound and you can tell just his interaction with

0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:55.600
<v Speaker 5>coach Harris. You could you know, the trust between them,

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 5>but also sending that guy back in and then you

0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 5>saw what happened, you know after that, So you know,

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:03.600
<v Speaker 5>I really I really loved that he was able to

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:07.440
<v Speaker 5>stay on the staff after dan Quinn left. And I

0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 5>really think he's a big part of the success that

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 5>we're having with these guys that are are ballhawks, because look,

0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:16.880
<v Speaker 5>Al Harris was him when he played, and I think

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:20.720
<v Speaker 5>it resonates with these players having a coach that not

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 5>only knows what he's talking about, but a guy that

0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 5>did it and did it at a high level and

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 5>the guy that you could buy into and trust. Yeah

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 5>when it comes to this defense, and you know, I

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 5>want you one hundred percent on on Harris.

0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:30.800
<v Speaker 6>I mean, you know a lot of guys that I

0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 6>played with said he was you know, basically that guy

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 6>when you talk about press technique like he guys went

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 6>to him. You know, Ramsey went to him. Boy ya,

0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 6>those guys went to him to get his teachings when

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 6>you talk about press cover. So he's an amazing defensive

0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 6>back coach. And you can tell that secondary just kind

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 6>of kind of flows like he does. They got to

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:48.920
<v Speaker 6>swagger like he does out there on the field. You

0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:51.800
<v Speaker 6>love to see that from your secondary. To me, you

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 6>know what really kind of popped out on tape to

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 6>me was one was Overshawn. You saw that speed. I mean,

0:33:57.520 --> 0:33:59.120
<v Speaker 6>he he popped off the tape.

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:00.160
<v Speaker 2>He was flying.

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 6>Everywhere off of that field, and you love to see

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:04.720
<v Speaker 6>that From the linebacker position. I like to see a

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:06.240
<v Speaker 6>little bit more out of Clark. You know, he had

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 6>a limited snap, so I would have liked to see,

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 6>you know, a little bit more from him out there.

0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:10.760
<v Speaker 2>But overshan was flying.

0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 6>You like to see what Bell had back at that

0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 6>safety spot, and he showed up. I mean, player of

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 6>the game, eight tackles and an interception. About that, I

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 6>got to ask you about that.

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 5>It's just obviously you being a safety that played at

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 5>the line of scrimmage a lot, but also a guy

0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 5>that played in coverage. How difficult that is from him

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:31.359
<v Speaker 5>for him being that he was a linebacker now being

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:33.800
<v Speaker 5>that far off the ball and what that does to him.

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 2>And his technique. Oh it was.

0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 6>It had to be extremely tough for him because for me,

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:38.239
<v Speaker 6>you know, I was down there a lot, but I

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:40.319
<v Speaker 6>was also back, you know when it came to third down.

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 6>I was able to play half of the field. Last year,

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:44.040
<v Speaker 6>I mean, he was down there in the in the

0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:46.360
<v Speaker 6>box pretty much the entirest year. So for him to

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:49.440
<v Speaker 6>make that transition, you see things different because it happens

0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 6>slower the further you are back from the ball, so

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 6>you can't just bite up on everything you see it

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:54.879
<v Speaker 6>run you're thinking, oh, I'm a line I get down

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:56.840
<v Speaker 6>hill and they'll hit you with that player go.

0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:57.279
<v Speaker 2>Over the top.

0:34:57.360 --> 0:34:59.359
<v Speaker 6>So I liked what I saw from him being able

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:01.440
<v Speaker 6>to play that deep path of the field coming downhill.

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:03.400
<v Speaker 6>We know he's gonna be great and run support, but

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 6>I loved it. You know, the athletic ability. Had the

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:08.759
<v Speaker 6>interception out there. Uh so he's shown some promise. He's

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 6>shown some promise that he can't play that safety level

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:12.880
<v Speaker 6>because we know when it comes to Zimmer's defense, he

0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:14.799
<v Speaker 6>likes those too high, and if you can't play high

0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:16.399
<v Speaker 6>as a safety, you're not gonna be able to play

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 6>in Zimmer's defense. So I like what I saw from

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:20.719
<v Speaker 6>him and the second round pick Kneeland. I mean, he

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 6>he stuck up to a couple of blocks out there.

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:24.600
<v Speaker 6>He didn't like he was ripping off, but he kind

0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 6>of reminded me of of Tyrone Crawford a little bit.

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 6>A guy that has an unbelievable motor. Might not be

0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 6>the most athletic guy out there, but he has an

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 6>unbelievable motor.

0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:34.040
<v Speaker 2>And you saw it.

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:35.680
<v Speaker 6>He was able to drive a lot of those blocks

0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:37.759
<v Speaker 6>back into the run game. He was always on the pile.

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 6>So those guys pretty much impressed me when it came

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:42.479
<v Speaker 6>to this defense. But I mean, you can't scoff at fourth,

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 6>fourth takeaways. You can't scoff at it, man. I love

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:50.239
<v Speaker 6>that comp for Kneeland. If it's Crawford solid play for

0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 6>a very long time, you know, versatile can play all

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:55.560
<v Speaker 6>throughout the line. You know, I saw a lot of

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 6>Crawford of him out there.

0:35:56.800 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 5>And I think obviously we watched Mazzi, right, we had

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:05.759
<v Speaker 5>our eyes on Maji, and I think I saw some

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 5>bright spots from Mozzi. I saw Mozi get up to field,

0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 5>see saw push. I saw some push, but I also

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 5>saw him take on blocks and not get pushed to

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:14.719
<v Speaker 5>the safeties.

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:15.239
<v Speaker 13>You know.

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 5>I saw him kind of ground himself, anchor himself. But

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:23.719
<v Speaker 5>then in true Mozzi fashion, it's like, oh, okay, you

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:26.320
<v Speaker 5>know that that's a little off, you know, But I

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:28.560
<v Speaker 5>think he's a guy that if you can get his

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:31.800
<v Speaker 5>best in rotation. I've seen coaches do that, get guys

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 5>to be able to do what you know that they

0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:35.839
<v Speaker 5>can do best, and then get another guy to come

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 5>in right behind him. I saw some of the guys,

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 5>big Carl Davis, he had some good reps, and then

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 5>our seventh round draft pick also had some good reps

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:46.719
<v Speaker 5>at the one technique as well, Chauncey Golston.

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:48.239
<v Speaker 2>They move him around a lot.

0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:50.879
<v Speaker 5>I saw him out at the defensive end position, where

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 5>I thought he was going to be more of a

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:55.239
<v Speaker 5>three tech than you know, on on the edge. And

0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:58.640
<v Speaker 5>I think maybe through Sam Williams injury, that their experience

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:02.479
<v Speaker 5>that's you know, giving him uh that opportunity. But up front,

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:04.400
<v Speaker 5>that was all I was looking. I was wanting to

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:06.959
<v Speaker 5>see how this defensive line flowed if they were able

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:10.719
<v Speaker 5>to put any pressure on. Look, it's gonna be the

0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 5>tremendous challenge to this defensive line is stopping to run.

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:18.040
<v Speaker 5>You know it, I know it, and these guys are

0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:19.800
<v Speaker 5>going to be They're gonna have to be able to

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 5>tackle and stop the run.

0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:24.520
<v Speaker 4>I want to see more of Hoko and Golston playing

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:27.240
<v Speaker 4>out and playing out the defensive end. So this practice

0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 4>coming up with the Rams and against the Raiders, I'd

0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:30.840
<v Speaker 4>like to see that to see exactly where where some

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:34.000
<v Speaker 4>of that goes here, Mazzie Smith. Look, at the end

0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:38.319
<v Speaker 4>of the day, is the word trust. At what point

0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:40.920
<v Speaker 4>in time can we feel like you can trust Mazzie Smith?

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:46.280
<v Speaker 4>And trust requires three things. Time, proofing, consistency. So game one, okay,

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:48.640
<v Speaker 4>you know if pass fail, he passed for just doing

0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 4>a past fail grade he passed, do it again, do

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 4>it again against the Rams and a joint practice, do

0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 4>it again against the Raiders. And That's where I'm at

0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 4>with Mozzie Smith. You have to show me consistently that

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:04.440
<v Speaker 4>you can do this to be the player that that

0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:06.280
<v Speaker 4>they've asked for. I mean, we're sitting here.

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:09.719
<v Speaker 2>For being honest with ourselves. We're sitting around here trying.

0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 4>To nicely judge a guy who's a first round pick.

0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 4>We should be expecting more from him.

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I know it's year two.

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:19.120
<v Speaker 4>Year one wasn't going there, so he's trying to go

0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:22.560
<v Speaker 4>down the road. But dude, if this team is going

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:25.560
<v Speaker 4>to be a playoff team, he must be an active

0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:30.279
<v Speaker 4>participant in them stopping the run. He has to be

0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:34.160
<v Speaker 4>because right now they have to show us behind doing

0:38:34.200 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 4>Number two.

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 5>Doesn't look like there's anybody now. It's a what do

0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:41.319
<v Speaker 5>you always say, do or don't do? There's no try, try,

0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:45.200
<v Speaker 5>and that's and that's where he is. I don't think

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 5>there's a there's nobody that's, you know, giving Mazi a

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:50.360
<v Speaker 5>soft landing on where he is.

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:51.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's heard the criticism.

0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:54.160
<v Speaker 5>People are own him because of where he's been drafted,

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:56.280
<v Speaker 5>and that's how I feel the same way about guiding

0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:57.959
<v Speaker 5>not to switch over to him. But I'm just saying

0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:00.400
<v Speaker 5>like he's going to be judged according to where he

0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 5>was picked. This defensive line, as you just stated, Man,

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:04.920
<v Speaker 5>they are gonna have to stop the run. This has

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 5>been the Achilles Hill forever. They have to get stops.

0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:12.840
<v Speaker 5>Linebacker wise, Leah Fowl another guy that I was watching

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:13.720
<v Speaker 5>didn't really.

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 2>Get out of it more. Yeah, yeah, I thought I

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:17.399
<v Speaker 2>would get more out of him.

0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:21.840
<v Speaker 5>They had some other guys, number fifty seven, Uh, Buddy

0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:24.719
<v Speaker 5>Johnson from Kimball High School, a local product, you know, boy,

0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:28.359
<v Speaker 5>you know, getting an opportunity to get out there. Look,

0:39:28.520 --> 0:39:31.520
<v Speaker 5>I just wanted to see this, these linebackers flowing, uh

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 5>and getting downhill and getting tackles. One of the things

0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 5>that I do feel really confident in is our safeties.

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:40.800
<v Speaker 5>I mean, for a long time the Dallas Cowboys couldn't

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:44.120
<v Speaker 5>find the safety. And now you know we got guys

0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:46.640
<v Speaker 5>like one year Thomas that's back there. I mean, now

0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:48.680
<v Speaker 5>you know what I'm saying with Bell, we have some

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:50.640
<v Speaker 5>We have some guys that can really play.

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:53.400
<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't say they couldn't find I would say they

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:56.359
<v Speaker 4>didn't put a value in. They found church, but then

0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 4>they didn't want to pay.

0:39:57.000 --> 0:39:58.600
<v Speaker 2>They didn't want to pay them, so they didn't find

0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:00.400
<v Speaker 2>the value that could get my brain. I think we

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:03.799
<v Speaker 2>look at like but like we Wilson, you know, look,

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna pay you.

0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 4>Somebody got to Jerry and Steven and say, look, man,

0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 4>you got you gotta write some checks. You got to

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:13.439
<v Speaker 4>put a couple of zeros here in the safetyes. Fine

0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:15.800
<v Speaker 4>because especially with the slot receiver, like the league is

0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:18.600
<v Speaker 4>changing here. Because there's a while when he wouldn't pay

0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:20.719
<v Speaker 4>me the linebackers. That was this THCINGD, we don't pay

0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 4>me to the linebackers. That's when he let Kenny Norton

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:24.960
<v Speaker 4>go and then you saw Ken goes to San Francisco

0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:27.439
<v Speaker 4>and wins the Super Bowl there. So along the way,

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:31.920
<v Speaker 4>it's been very interesting how they have changed philosophies and

0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 4>when they decided to actually put some money into.

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:35.920
<v Speaker 2>The safeties and value it now.

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 4>I think you said, you see what you're getting out

0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:40.440
<v Speaker 4>of this bell coming out of Florida, A and M.

0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 4>They gave him a lot of money as a free agent,

0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 4>right so we spent that first year as a swack

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:48.279
<v Speaker 4>player adjusting to the league. Last year kind of had

0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:49.799
<v Speaker 4>to play out of position. And right now I think

0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 4>we're seeing everything he had to do last year playing

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:54.759
<v Speaker 4>out a position linebacker now going back to safety and

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:56.880
<v Speaker 4>have an experience. You're seeing like, man, this is a

0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:59.799
<v Speaker 4>good football player. So they invested in the player.

0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:02.080
<v Speaker 2>They put in the time. I just don't think they

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:02.719
<v Speaker 2>did that before.

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 5>We take that's you know, maybe that's the part of

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:09.360
<v Speaker 5>Will mcclay's brilliance is his ability to identify this position.

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:11.960
<v Speaker 5>You see it now with guys like land as well.

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:14.440
<v Speaker 5>Uh we I mean I know for sure, like the

0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:18.839
<v Speaker 5>Simmons that was in Denver, I was crying a guy

0:41:18.920 --> 0:41:20.759
<v Speaker 5>like that because you need it. I mean, after you

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:23.640
<v Speaker 5>have look at the NFL for so long and you

0:41:23.760 --> 0:41:26.680
<v Speaker 5>see those safeties that are just game changes, game rerecords,

0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 5>guys that can get interceptions, And now I'm looking around

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 5>and I'm like Malik Hooker Wilson, Now you have ball

0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:36.400
<v Speaker 5>guys that are pushing for a position. How do you

0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 5>how do you keep players that are showing you that

0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:42.759
<v Speaker 5>kind of promise off the field. So, I mean we

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:47.279
<v Speaker 5>went from not having none to some a bunch and

0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:49.400
<v Speaker 5>so I'm loving what I'm saying in the secondary.

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Is it let me ask you a quick question to

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 2>get back to the second level.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it.

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<v Speaker 6>Is it a lock that Clark and Kendrick is gonna

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<v Speaker 6>be those two, those two linebackers, And I think Kendricks

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<v Speaker 6>for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But the trust trust fact right now, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>what are you gonna do? Is gonna go with the

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<v Speaker 2>people he trust?

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<v Speaker 13>Trust?

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<v Speaker 5>Look I'm look, here's I think Overshawan makes this. He

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<v Speaker 5>makes an interesting case. He's going to be one of

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<v Speaker 5>those guys that you have to He's gonna have to

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<v Speaker 5>be on the field. He's going to be in their

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<v Speaker 5>rotation and packages. I need to see more out of Clark.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, DeMont Clark had a bad season last season,

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<v Speaker 5>and we had a bunch of tape in highlights to

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<v Speaker 5>prove it. And so, like we were talking about the

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<v Speaker 5>defensive line and stopping the run. That's why you bring

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<v Speaker 5>in the Kendris because you know, his one thing that

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<v Speaker 5>you know he could do is get downhill and get tackles,

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<v Speaker 5>and so we have to be able to present that

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<v Speaker 5>that kind of pressure at the second level. But right now,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, without knowing a whole lot about Overshawn out

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<v Speaker 5>of Texas, you know, and then him getting injured in

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<v Speaker 5>that preseason game, he really is just one of those

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<v Speaker 5>players that I'm like, man, this dude is just got

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<v Speaker 5>juice with him and that kind of quickness, that kind

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<v Speaker 5>of explosion.

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<v Speaker 6>He's a little undersized, but he reminds me of the

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<v Speaker 6>guy from from Cleveland, number six flyingbacker. I pushed his

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<v Speaker 6>last Yeah, but I think he could be that type

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<v Speaker 6>of player on KOC or something.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's a beast.

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<v Speaker 5>I believe he was out of note I don't know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>but he's just one of those guys that can tackle.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's just a high motor guy and it's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>be flying all over the field.

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<v Speaker 2>I like him. I like him a lot. I just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, look, Clark, it's a lot of guys got

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<v Speaker 2>pressure on him right now.

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<v Speaker 8>So this is good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that is This is a.

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<v Speaker 4>Good thing because we've seen too many times when they

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<v Speaker 4>run out there and there was no competition, and then

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<v Speaker 4>when it came to the competition they were playing against

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<v Speaker 4>it a slap run over. So this is a good thing.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's do it again in two days. Harrison,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be appreciate you ate appreciate you have new scrugs.

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<v Speaker 4>And for Jazz, Josh, everybody who's the part of this.

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<v Speaker 4>Chris Bean, we thank you. This has been a play.

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