1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 3: This is the Players Lounge broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 3: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 3: Danny McCrae, Hecma Harrison, and New. 7 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: He scrugs. That's right, Players Lounge live from Frisco. 8 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 4: Let's go owners of the Dallas Cowboys here at the 9 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 4: Star SWBC Podcast Center. You know the crew is Heckma 10 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 4: Harrison in the house, very Church, former Cowboys safety. I 11 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 4: am merely new, he scrugs. Damam day off. So Players 12 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 4: Lounge by you buy Aristocrat. 13 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: Trey Lance. Let's just go right. 14 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 4: Cowboys thirteen twelve. Let's just go right there to Trey Lance. 15 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 4: This is about Trey LANs need to see what Trey 16 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 4: Lance could do. I need grades, gentlemen. 17 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 2: Heckman, you gonna go to me first, right out the 18 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: bud off the But all right, I'm going you know what. 19 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 5: Look, what I'm not gonna do is make Trey Lance 20 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 5: my whipping boy for the off season, for the for 21 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 5: the preseason. I go to do that, okay, And I 22 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 5: was I was judging him according to each throw and 23 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 5: I came away with a C minus. I came away 24 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 5: with a C minus performance. I mean, it's easy to 25 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 5: say D or F, but C minus. He gave you 26 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 5: some things athletically that it was like, oh, okay, I 27 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 5: see you know six four twenty five, got wills, what 28 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 5: can run? But he missed on a lot and and 29 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 5: you know, Babe and the Bill, the broadcast, everybody, they 30 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 5: didn't you. 31 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: Know, they didn't let him go on it. 32 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 5: They shown him, they circled it up and just let 33 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 5: him know, Hey, he's missing some spots. Mechanics is and 34 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 5: all the way there. And I think it's a byproduct 35 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 5: of the time that he hasn't played in the league. 36 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 5: But I can I can still see the potential and 37 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 5: why they're buying in to Trey Lance. I asked some 38 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 5: other questions. I'm sure we're going to get into that 39 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 5: about Trey Lance, but that's my grade that I give 40 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 5: him SI minus. 41 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: You know what, I'm with you on the C minus. 42 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 6: I'm gonna go ahead and get I was gonna hit 43 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 6: him with the D bud pause, but I'm gonna give 44 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 6: him the C minus because, like you said, he showed 45 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 6: some athleticism out there. And what I was most impressed 46 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 6: with is he had a conscious effort to not only 47 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 6: do it with his legs, but he wanted to show 48 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 6: you that he can do it from the pocket as well. 49 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 6: I mean, they let him out there throw it I 50 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 6: think forty one times out there, only threw for a 51 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 6: buck eighty eight, but he didn't turn the ball over 52 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 6: and he did have a lot of drops out there. Now, 53 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 6: he was playing with a lot of young casts that 54 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 6: are you know, trying to make the team and are 55 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 6: just now starting to get their legs fresh when it 56 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 6: comes to the NFL, So. 57 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: He had a lot of drops. But overall, like you said, heck. 58 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 6: He he really wasn't accurate, really wasn't accurate at all, 59 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 6: you know, at a at all the quarterbacks that played 60 00:02:58,480 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 6: in that game, I think it was sets and Ben 61 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 6: played all for the ram. Yeah, you know everyone Trey 62 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 6: Lass and then you had you know, Cooper Rush, who 63 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 6: throw an absolute dime earlier in that game. 64 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: But you know, I think he was the second best 65 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: quarterback out there. 66 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 6: You know, he showed his athleticism as far as getting 67 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 6: away from the rush if he needed to, and you know, 68 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 6: he had a couple of good throws out there, but 69 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 6: for the most part, he just wasn't accurate, and he 70 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 6: looked like a guy that you. 71 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: Know, you would think, Okay, man, this guy must be 72 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: a rookie. 73 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 6: No, this this guy's been in a league a while, yes, 74 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 6: you know he And what's most disappointing is, you know, 75 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 6: you get with the quarterback Whisper and Mike McCarthy going 76 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 6: on year two, and you know, it's just we just 77 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 6: haven't seen that improvement. You know, you would think you would, 78 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 6: you know, get into this game and he's going against 79 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 6: vanilla defenses and the twos and the threes for the Rams. 80 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 6: He ain't going against the starters, and he wasn't even 81 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 6: able to pick those guys apart like I thought he 82 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 6: would be able to. He still reminds me of the 83 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 6: guy that, you know, was fresh out of college in 84 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 6: North Dakota State with seventeen starts, you know, not not 85 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 6: that much improvement. 86 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: And he's been in the league a little bit. 87 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 6: So I'm gonna give him a C minus because he 88 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 6: showed me that he he was able and conscious effort 89 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 6: to go out there and try to do it with 90 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 6: his arm, not. 91 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: Just his legs. 92 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 6: But I just got to see more improvement, more commandity offense. 93 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 6: Hopefully we'll see that going into the preseason games. Six 94 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 6: attempts forty four yards using his legs. That right there 95 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 6: took him out of the D category because this is 96 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 6: an aspect of the game as a quarterback. If you 97 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 6: can use your feet pick up some yardage, this will 98 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 6: help you. So we know Tray can do that. So 99 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 6: he did that. 100 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 4: But otherwise, in terms of passing throwing the football here, 101 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 4: twenty five completions on forty one attempts one hundred and 102 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 4: eight yards. That's not cutting it. That's not cutting it. 103 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 4: Cooper Rush is number two quarterback lockings right now, just 104 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 4: put it in there. That's what's going to happen. He's 105 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 4: going to be your backup quarterback. And with all due respect, 106 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 4: you know they've cut down the preseason games, so we 107 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 4: know the last preseason game Church you've played in, I 108 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 4: mean that's you know that you're not going to get 109 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 4: anything there. So you've got this next one coming up here, 110 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 4: and this is not gonna he's not gonna be able 111 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 4: to do enough in one preseason game to say for 112 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 4: anybody to say, hey, this is our number two guy. 113 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 4: So this point in time, it's going to be Cooper 114 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 4: Rush is the number two back up to Dak Prescott. 115 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 4: Trey Lance is going to be the number three guy. 116 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,679 Speaker 4: He's just gonna have to try to keep on improving. 117 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 4: I will give him this grace. This is where you 118 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 4: hope Mike McCarthy and Scott Tolzen can keep working with him. 119 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 2: I will go back to Cooper Rush. 120 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 4: There was a point in time when Cooper Rush lost 121 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,559 Speaker 4: his job here, was cut, then had to go play 122 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 4: for Jason Garrett and the Giants came back and he improved. 123 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 4: So to me, the grace I'm giving Trey Lance is 124 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 4: simply this. We have seen in this league, guys who 125 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 4: can improve, Guys who can can. 126 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 2: Start get better. 127 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 4: Nick Foles absolutely never thought Nick Foles would be sitting 128 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 4: up here as a Super Bowl winning quarterback and an 129 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 4: MVP who, oh, by the way, beat Bill Belichick. 130 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 2: But he improved, he got better. 131 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 4: I'm looking at Trey Lance's that's the high end of 132 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 4: what I believe he could do. 133 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 2: Keep staying in this one system. 134 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 4: Hopefully they signed Dak Prescott and maybe in twenty five 135 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 4: he could eventually go and become a backup quarterback. But 136 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 4: right now, with where the season is going and what's 137 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 4: going on here, there's not gonna be enough time for 138 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 4: Trey Lance to be the number two quarterback in my opinion. 139 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 5: Look, guys, look, I'm not pairing no that I don't 140 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 5: believe in conspiracy theories, but I was shocked at forty 141 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 5: one passes. I was okay, and I'm just saying, I 142 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 5: know it's preseason and it's not a lot to make 143 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 5: of that, but if you look around the rest of 144 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 5: the league, that just was a lot, you know, as 145 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 5: far as his average. And to me, we left out 146 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 5: of here on Friday and I was talking about he's 147 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 5: not a bargainship and all that. 148 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 2: Just get Dak signed the whole nine. 149 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 5: But just based off of their actions in the place 150 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 5: that they put him in, I'm like, hey, this is 151 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 5: a let's see what we got under the hood kind 152 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 5: of a situation right now for Trey Lance. And I 153 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 5: don't blame him, because what would we be saying right 154 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 5: now if Trey Lance went out there and he was 155 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 5: twenty five or thirty two through for three hundred and 156 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 5: fifteen yards and had two tuddies in certain precis controversy, 157 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 5: because that's what you'd be talking about he'd be talking 158 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 5: about what look the Cowboys embarrassing embarrassments of riches at 159 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 5: the quarterback position. They have a decision to make it 160 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 5: looks like Trey Lance is the air appearing things like that. 161 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 5: So look, like I said, he's not going to be 162 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 5: my whipping boy. I know that he has a lot 163 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 5: to his game that is going to be desired to 164 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 5: be c you can get he Look, tell me if 165 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 5: I'm right or wrong on this, But when it comes 166 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 5: down to quarterbacks in the league, you don't have to 167 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 5: be the most athletic guy. Just stand there and deliver 168 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 5: the mail. If these guys are running these routes, make 169 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 5: sure that you get it to them. And as many, 170 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 5: plenty of times that he was missing guys wide open, 171 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 5: and it's just. 172 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: Not even my belief. This is like the football Bible. 173 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 5: A good wide receiver can't make a bad quarterback look good, 174 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 5: but a good quarterback can make a bad wide receiver 175 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 5: at least look decent. 176 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 4: The touchdown, it was a touchdown. The fan that he 177 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 4: just miss trade miss Oh well, oh yeah, he just missing. 178 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 4: You've got to make that kind of throw. And that's 179 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 4: where I go back into just the grace all right, 180 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 4: young player, they'll go back. You look at the film 181 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 4: and he's got to be able to hit that, and 182 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 4: you hope that he can do that against the raiders 183 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 4: coming up here if you get that opportunity again. But 184 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 4: if I'm head coach Mike McCarthy and this is my 185 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 4: last contract, hey man, Cooper Rush, you the guy Trey Lance, 186 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 4: keep working over here. We'll keep on seeing how we 187 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 4: can make you better. He should play a whole lot 188 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 4: against the raiders, and you just keep on trying to 189 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 4: feed him and see where it can go. But I 190 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 4: just think at this point, heck, we have to really 191 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 4: just be realistic about this and say, this is a 192 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 4: project right now, this is a Trey Lance project. I 193 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 4: wouldn't give up on the project. But it's a project, though, 194 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 4: why not? 195 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: Why not? Okay, Cooper Rush is up at the end 196 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: of the year. Yeah, it'll be thirty Yeah. 197 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 4: Do you want to keep going there or at some 198 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 4: point in time because it's going to cost you, by 199 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 4: the way, because this is a good back. 200 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: A player who knows hit you about five you don't 201 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 2: hit you in trades. 202 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 4: You'll spend that trade trades, and that the prices will 203 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 4: be falling Okay, with that Walmart rollbacks, that contract gonna 204 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 4: be the Walmart roller. 205 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 7: Bay great value, great value. Okay, I'm bought. That's the 206 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 7: great value. 207 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 8: Yes he is. 208 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 2: So dude, we got to. 209 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 4: Pay Micael right, So Coop, I can't give you a 210 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 4: five million, But Tray I got. 211 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,119 Speaker 9: I got two capt crunch it's the parrot crunch over. 212 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 9: You do the Ritos, Fruddy Stone, you know, got Frudy Stone. 213 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 5: Oh man, you know you have doing all the negotiating 214 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 5: for on his mixed contract right here on the players 215 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 5: last man just telling the. 216 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 2: Man where he is. 217 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 5: And look, I mean even if you look at the 218 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 5: San Francisco forty nine is where he was in Shanahan's system, 219 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 5: and Shanahan is playing with perde mister irrelevant. I mean 220 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 5: with that, they were all in on Trey Lance. So 221 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 5: they I'm just talking about what they traded to get him. 222 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 5: What they traded, what they gave away to get him, 223 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 5: led me to believe that they were all in on him. 224 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 2: He came in and showed them that he didn't have it. 225 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 5: And sometime, based on your point, it's like what if 226 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 5: a guy just don't just have it? 227 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 4: Some guys don't have it Kyle got talked into that, 228 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 4: he got talked to. 229 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 2: He didn't want it. 230 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 4: They talked to Lynch and can't remember that guy. They 231 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 4: management was like this this dude and it's crazy. This 232 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 4: dude was like in a mac jone. 233 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, but had that work out, but he was 234 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 5: he loved. 235 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 2: Look, they loved Kirk Cousins. 236 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 4: That's who they truly wanted back in the day, but 237 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 4: they had to go sell and get Garoppolo. So Purty 238 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 4: fits the kind of guys that Shanahan wants here and 239 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 4: Trey Lance when they saw he could do he shan quick. 240 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 2: If you see a guy can't do it but you didn't, 241 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: don't keep holding hanging on to it. 242 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 5: It ain't the thriller's gone, baby, But you know you're 243 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 5: trying to talk yourself into that's what you do. 244 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 2: Know what you doing? Look at what Look at what 245 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: you got out of Cooper Rush? 246 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 5: Right, Okay, this man sat around here is with Garrett Gilbert. 247 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: That's true. He buried Cooper Rush. 248 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 4: You never would have thought Cooper Rush on Sunday n 249 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 4: football through for thre hundred dards beat Minnesota Bikas on 250 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 4: Halloween night. 251 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 2: Again, that's true. 252 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 4: That's all I'm talking about here is could he get 253 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 4: to this point. Matt Hasselback is a guy we saw 254 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 4: in Green Bay as a fifth rounder who kept improving 255 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 4: and in eventually got Trey has not played. You mentioned 256 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 4: it before we started looking at he didn't play a 257 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 4: lot in college football. The problem for the forty nine 258 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 4: ers and everybody else who was doing the evaluating is 259 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 4: you evaluated a guy who didn't play. Same thing with 260 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 4: Mitchell Trubisky that thirteen starts at North Carolina and with 261 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 4: third team all a sec. Yeah, he's gonna get drafted 262 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 4: before my Homes and Deshaun. There was misevaluate all day long, 263 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 4: and so you've misevaluated him. 264 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 2: You gave up afore. If he played for the forty 265 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: nine Ers that year, they would have got No. Four. 266 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: He'd have been like Fields getting a six. 267 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 4: Right, you know it had been a giveaway, But because 268 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 4: it happened before the season, you had to give up 269 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 4: before and you met. 270 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 2: The price tag. 271 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 4: But now you're just seeing, hey, there's a little more 272 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 4: work to go here. So before I throw him overboard, 273 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 4: I'm just simply saying, heck, if you have the player 274 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 4: for this year's under contract, if you bring it back 275 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 4: next year under Dak Prescott and you get him. 276 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: At your price? 277 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 4: Is that the world's worst thing? Now, you can still 278 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 4: go out and look for another quarterback. You should still 279 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 4: keep looking, But if you're working with the player. And 280 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 4: I had to have Mike McCarthy and Scott Tolzine tell me, 281 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 4: Jerry Jones, general manager, we are seeing some progress, We're 282 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 4: seeing some things. 283 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 2: That's what I'd have to see. And if they tell me, nah, dude, 284 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 2: we tried, we did what we could. We had a 285 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: whole year. We may need to look on. I would 286 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: do that too. 287 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 4: But you're also go being a driver's seat, because what 288 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 4: options would he have if he spends the whole years 289 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 4: a third quarterback and he doesn't really play. 290 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 2: Ain't be whole bunch to be a running out there sat. 291 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 5: The problem with that is Mike McCarthy doesn't have a 292 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 5: whole lot of time either with this situation. 293 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: Well, that's why he's gonna be your number three. 294 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 4: But that whole practice time when they spend, you know, 295 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 4: when when they have another year to keep on trying 296 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 4: to improve the play. And I just once again, I 297 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 4: go back to what I saw with Cooper Rush, and 298 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 4: I think That's a heck of a lot of credit 299 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 4: to give McCarthy and his staff because I never envisioned 300 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 4: Cooper Rush being what he is now, which is, hey, man, 301 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 4: if Dak is down, this dude can keep you in 302 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 4: the game. He's shown you I'll keep the ship afloat. 303 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 4: In fact, we can stay in first. Only issue with 304 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 4: that is that's when he snaps. 305 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 6: Do you think a third string quarterback is going to 306 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 6: get out there running? 307 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: Is he going to be able to improve that much? 308 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 2: Within the system? 309 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 6: Cooper Rush was a backup, so he was taking at least, 310 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 6: you know, three or four out of the ones reps 311 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 6: during practice with the regular one threw out there, so 312 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 6: he was able to improve that way. When we talk 313 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 6: about your third stream quarterback, you know he may get 314 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,599 Speaker 6: a couple scout team reps when when Cooper Rush is 315 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 6: like a let me, let me take a breather, he 316 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 6: may get some scout team reps, but for sure he's 317 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 6: not gonna get any first and. 318 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 5: Now we're talking about a roster spot right now? Are 319 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 5: we talking about a roster spot for him as well? So, 320 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 5: I mean, this is just one of those you're in 321 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 5: a pickle if you're going to continue down this road 322 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 5: and this guy doesn't eminently develop into what you're what 323 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 5: you want? 324 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 4: What a what a fantastic conversation that we get to have. 325 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 4: Keep going on this, it's pretty cool. All right, let's 326 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 4: get up, Let's get our first break in here. Hey yeah, 327 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 4: chew doga going to miss time. The Cowboys left tackle 328 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 4: is going to miss some time. 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He's gonna 387 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 4: miss some time, tard Archer reporting he's gonna miss time 388 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 4: into the regular season with a toe injury here, So 389 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 4: that means Tyler Geydon come on down. The rookie out 390 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 4: of Oklahoma took twenty one snaps against the Rams in 391 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 4: their preseason game, and to me, I'm looking at it 392 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 4: right now as okay, here's Tyler Guiden. 393 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 2: Got to get him ready. 394 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 4: Their first game is against Cleveland and Differensive player of 395 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 4: the Year Miles Garrett and awesome Richards kid they took 396 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 4: out of North Carolina on Day three last year. It 397 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 4: is time for these two gentlemen to get a whole 398 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 4: lot of reps here at left tackle. 399 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 2: That's that's my opinion. How you looking at it, Church, 400 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 2: I'm with you on that one. 401 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 6: It's time. It's time for the man to go in there. 402 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,239 Speaker 6: And one thing I will say is when he did 403 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 6: get those snaps, we didn't hear his name called, which 404 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 6: is a good thing when you were talking about the 405 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 6: offensive line, because that means he wasn't out there just getting. 406 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: Holding or being ran through anything like that. Now, now 407 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 2: it's his time. 408 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 6: He's gonna be able to jail with those Number one 409 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 6: crew and see what they got because we've seen through 410 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 6: these past couple of years. Like you always say this, 411 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 6: the season is long. The season is long, so you're 412 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 6: gonna need as much depth as possible. So for these 413 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 6: two young gentlemen to get in there and get as 414 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 6: many reps as possible, it's just increasing that fluidity that 415 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 6: they're going to have through that offensive line. So for me, 416 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 6: I think, you know, hopefully I Dooga gets healthy. Well, 417 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 6: you know, we never want to see anybody go down, 418 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 6: but I think it's time for Gutting to go in 419 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 6: there and solidify. 420 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: His position at that left tackle. 421 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 5: Look, man, that left tackle position is so vital to 422 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 5: the success of everything that you do on offense. And 423 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 5: I appreciate the way that the coaching staff, the scouts, 424 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 5: everybody's looking at this and bringing this guy along slowly. Yeah, 425 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 5: and my little alarm that he doesn't start the game, Yeah, 426 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 5: I am, But I do think that these joint practices 427 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 5: are going to be very good for him and his development. 428 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 5: But my thing is, if he ain't there, he ain't there, right, 429 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 5: how long are we going to keep this project going 430 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 5: Because we're not gonna put Dak in harm's way with 431 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 5: a left tackle that is missing reaching and we've already 432 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 5: gone through with this what this whole schedule is about, 433 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 5: all right? 434 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 11: And so. 435 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, there are there are some things that I think, 436 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 5: especially coming up to the Saturday game with the Chumidoga injury. 437 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 5: Are they going to start him? How much is he 438 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:44,959 Speaker 5: going to play? How much are we going to get 439 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 5: to see? We haven't seen those little bits and reels 440 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 5: that the Cowboy media department always flits out there. Oh guys, 441 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 5: why is that missing? I think he's missing for a reason. 442 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 2: So let's see what that reason is. 443 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 13: What to do? 444 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 2: I have a question? What you got? What's your plan? 445 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 2: B give me? Heck ma Harrison playing B Well, my players, 446 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: guy can't go or if he just ain't got it, 447 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 2: you can't get it. If you got it, but what 448 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: you got? 449 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 13: You know? 450 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 5: I think you know, Church alluded to this last week 451 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 5: we were talking about Tyler Smith. You know, we were 452 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 5: talking about Tyler Smith and realizing that you do have 453 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 5: that bargainship there, You do have a player that you recognize, 454 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 5: even with like Zach Barton a little while ago. You look, 455 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 5: you're not going to start the season with a guy 456 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 5: that's gonna put you in any danger. And so when 457 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 5: I came away from the game and just watching completely 458 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 5: the offensive line, you know, I go back to my guy, 459 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 5: Cooper Cooper bb EMA all day. 460 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:37,959 Speaker 11: Uh. 461 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 5: You have a guy that you can bump out to 462 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 5: the left guard position and also play Tyler Smith at 463 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 5: the left tackle. Now, that's that's breaking the glass, hitting 464 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 5: the red button. That's I just say that, I did you. 465 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 5: I haven't said that, Yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt. 466 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 5: But you have a guy that you recognize right now 467 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 5: that Look, he's got some developing to do, and these 468 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 5: next couple of weeks are gonna be crucial for him. 469 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 5: And if they they're gonna be putting him out on 470 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 5: an island. And if they can't trust him, no, you 471 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,239 Speaker 5: don't do that. If you can't put him out there 472 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 5: on an island and man. 473 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: But literally, okay, so it's awesome Richards. You know you 474 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: can't put him out against Miles Garrett. 475 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 4: You put nobody in their right minds in this league 476 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 4: is gonna put somebody out on the island with with 477 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 4: Miles Garrett. Unless you your boy out of San Francisco. 478 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 4: There's not very many people who can go there one 479 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 4: on one with him. 480 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 5: You're gonna have to get on any offenses that are 481 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 5: going to, you know, weld a tight end to the 482 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 5: end of their left tackle. Either that's gonna handicap your 483 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 5: entire offense. You're gonna go quick, You're gonna run at him, 484 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 5: You're gonna you're gonna try and maneuver as much as 485 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 5: you possibly can, but you just kill. If that's what 486 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 5: you do, then you're limiting everything you do. If you 487 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 5: have to play twelve, if you have to play twelve, 488 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 5: if that's not what your system is. We're not gonna 489 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 5: change our system for one guy. We're gonna believe that 490 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 5: we can continue to run our system, but we're not 491 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 5: gonna pu Dak in a position where he's sitting back 492 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 5: there through on him on an island by himself in 493 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 5: past pro That's all I'm saying. 494 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 2: Do you don't want no, Chaz Green episode is you 495 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 2: don't want that? No, I don't want any of that. 496 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 2: All right, this is all this is our worst case scenario. 497 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 4: Throw a tight end out here, I'll throw I'll put 498 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 4: hundred liftkeys, my fool, but I'll put them out there 499 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 4: to make a rookie. 500 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 2: Left tackle against against Miles Garrett cannot be out here 501 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: left one on one, trust him. I completely agree on 502 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 2: it's gonna be in eighty six sixty is gonna be 503 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 2: that's gonna be right. 504 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 5: What I'm saying is that's gonna limit. That's gonna be 505 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 5: limit so much of your office by doing it. But 506 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 5: look that, and I agree with what you said. It 507 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 5: is you can bring a hundred lifty and chip on 508 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 5: a guy like Miles Garrett. You gotta do every You 509 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,959 Speaker 5: gotta throw the kitchen sink at him. Oh and by 510 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 5: the way, he's got some other guys up front that 511 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 5: can get there too. So I'm I'm just saying that 512 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 5: as much as we're talking about Miles Garrett, there's still 513 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 5: other threats to go with, you know, a Schwartz defense. 514 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 4: Sure, sure, but I'm at least making sure that threat 515 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 4: doesn't get to me because I know he'll. I know 516 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 4: he'll take a game record, right, he'll tear it up. 517 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 4: I mean, if you don't, then Dak, ain't you know 518 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 4: you I got four receiver. Dak can't go see notnhe 519 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 4: because look it might be like that anyway. Fine, but 520 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 4: I'll throw school Maker. School Maker. You you sit up 521 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 4: here with guiding you two together. I will I will 522 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 4: sacrifice a receiver in a route to make sure I 523 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 4: got a tight end sitting up there with Guidon, to 524 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 4: make sure we can slow down Miles geartt Yes, Swartz 525 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 4: can do some other blitzes and loop other guys. That's fine, 526 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 4: But I'm not about to leave Miles Garrett one on one, 527 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 4: no more than I'm leaving Michael Parsons one on one 528 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 4: or JJ Why. 529 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: I mean, there's certain guys in this league. You leave 530 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 2: one on one, you ask him for a problem. 531 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 5: I completely got I got you on that. I agree 532 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 5: with you to a certain extent. That's all so to 533 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 5: a certain degree. 534 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 4: I just I just see the Chazz Chaz Green then 535 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 4: bringing Byron Bell still leaving the. 536 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 2: Dude ugly to the game. 537 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 4: I go to Tyrants, said Tyrant, I mean as a practice, 538 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 4: I why why do that? 539 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 2: Okay? I got when they did it, when Tyrone was 540 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 2: out there one on one, but I was like, they're 541 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 2: not you. 542 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 4: He's like, that's just what we do, and to me, 543 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 4: that's the coaching mount feast the end of the day. 544 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 2: Chances. 545 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 4: Okay, we're talking about Tyron Smith while he's playing for 546 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 4: the Jets this year. You look at the band's resume. 547 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 4: Is it is a Hall of fame conversation resume that 548 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 4: they should be having in King. I don't know if 549 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 4: he gets in, but his name, his candidacy should be 550 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 4: discussed in the room and the ability in this league 551 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 4: for a guy like that to hey, man, we can 552 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 4: leave him out there one on one, you know, if 553 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 4: it's Tyring, if it's old Tyrannt Smith not Tying. Now, hey, 554 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 4: he can go out here and handle my Miles Garet 555 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 4: one on one and ju he could do that. These 556 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 4: other guys haven't done it. And for a guy like 557 00:24:55,280 --> 00:25:01,239 Speaker 4: Geydon and heck, you notice he's playing right absolutely now 558 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 4: you're going left. 559 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 2: Yeah. So now, I mean, and I that's a difference. 560 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 4: I don't want to be gross about it, but one 561 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 4: lineman said, it's like trying to take a different hand 562 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 4: that you normally wipe yourself with and go with the other. 563 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 2: It's a difference if you going to the left versus 564 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 2: you're using it right. It's a difference. 565 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 4: And so you're already asking him to make a change, 566 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 4: and that it's a big change. That's something we're gonna 567 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 4: help you. 568 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'm just saying game planning right now. I'm 569 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 5: sure that Mike McCarthy and his staff is already game 570 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 5: planning for that Cleveland game. And if it's with their 571 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 5: rookie left tackle, then that brings a whole nother dynamic 572 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 5: to it because of the matchup. 573 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 2: Matchup. 574 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 5: I'm only relating this to my experience when Terrence Steel 575 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 5: started at right tackle, because you know, he wasn't the strongest, 576 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 5: wasn't the fastest, got beat, he was off balance a lot, 577 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 5: you know, and how they tried to help him with 578 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 5: tight ends and stuff and chipping on guys going out 579 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 5: that way. They just couldn't just completely send the guy 580 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 5: over there help him for the entire game. There's just 581 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 5: That's all I'm saying. And I think he's gonna be 582 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 5: a liability no matter what. I just want to know, 583 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 5: and I think we all want to know how confident 584 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 5: we can be in him going into Week one. Right now, 585 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 5: it's the great unknown. We haven't seen it. We're seeing 586 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 5: it wrong. Between twenty snaps, that's none at all. And 587 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,959 Speaker 5: so that proof consistency, we have none of it, all right, 588 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 5: you don't. And so not only that now, it even 589 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 5: goes further than that from Cleveland to New Orleans to Baltimore. 590 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 5: I mean he has the kitchen sinks being thrown at 591 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 5: him at the beginning stealers. Absolutely, So it is a 592 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 5: trial by fire. Who is going to be in that fire? 593 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 5: Is it gonna be your rookie? Because I think in 594 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 5: one hand, this coaching chaff isn't going to throw him 595 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 5: to the wolves as if he's not ready because of 596 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 5: what you just said, he's going from right to left 597 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 5: the learning curve is if he isn't taking on that 598 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 5: learning curve gracefully, and we need to give this guy 599 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 5: rich I. 600 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 2: Mean it's gonna be if he has a red shirt year. 601 00:26:54,680 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 2: Oh lo, there's gonna be a lot of articles written 602 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 2: on that. 603 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 4: So this joint practice against the Rams is going to 604 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 4: be huge for guiding and awesome Richards as you start 605 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 4: to see, hey, hey, hey guys, we need you to 606 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 4: start to come forward and make these advances. And this 607 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 4: is this is where your coaching staff really has to 608 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 4: come in with flying colors of Okay, we've got three 609 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 4: guys that we have to get ready at left tackle, Guidon, 610 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 4: Richards and Smith to figure out what are the combination 611 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 4: is going to be not just you know for that 612 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 4: we know injuries happen too, so so you've got to 613 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 4: have these three guys get ready to go. I know 614 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 4: Barry hates pro football focused numbers. 615 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 2: Come on, here us with it. Hit us. I see that. 616 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 13: You want. 617 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 4: Well, I tell you what pro football focus like this 618 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 4: is where you lose people. The way the coaching staff 619 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 4: is not looking at this and saying here's a solution. 620 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: This is high grated cowboys, wasn't it? It was a man? 621 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, which which goes back to with the scouts toys, 622 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 4: like they don't know what it is that we're looking 623 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 4: for what we're asking you guys, so they're just going 624 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 4: off wace of what they see. All right, let's get 625 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 4: our second break in here. 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Before we go to defense, We 680 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 4: go to defense. Now, it's okay that cowboy run game. 681 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,719 Speaker 2: Brother, Ugh, my brother showed up. 682 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 4: Brotherlik David carries eighteen yards. 683 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 2: That's averaged two point three. We go Downald three. 684 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 4: He carries fourteen yards average four point seven and no 685 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 4: carries for l Bookie Hunter Lipke. 686 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 2: You know I was looking for and I was looking 687 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: for the sweet feet up. 688 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 4: Man, I'm just assuming that Mike's got some big plans 689 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 4: and he's like, I'm not gonna bay listen to preseason, 690 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 4: keep it under wraps, and then could cleanly catch him. 691 00:31:54,760 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 2: Pa Schwartz will be like, oh my god, oh my god. 692 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 2: I can think. Mike was like, man, so yeah, don't 693 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 2: even say anything. He We're just talking about talking about 694 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 2: your defense. Don't say no. Can I talk about the defense? 695 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 13: Now? 696 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 2: The game man say his name, Al Harris. 697 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 5: Say his name. Look, I know Mike, Mike is gonna 698 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 5: get a lot of credit if this defense is successful. 699 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 5: But I think just the overall conscious of this defense 700 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 5: is Al Harris. And you can see it on the sideline. 701 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 5: You can see his interaction with players. It was number 702 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 5: thirty seven Eric Scott. He made the area like the 703 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 5: what was it out of back? Yeah, he pushed the 704 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 5: guy abound and you can tell just his interaction with 705 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 5: coach Harris. You could you know, the trust between them, 706 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 5: but also sending that guy back in and then you 707 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 5: saw what happened, you know after that, So you know, 708 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 5: I really I really loved that he was able to 709 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 5: stay on the staff after dan Quinn left. And I 710 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 5: really think he's a big part of the success that 711 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 5: we're having with these guys that are are ballhawks, because look, 712 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 5: Al Harris was him when he played, and I think 713 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 5: it resonates with these players having a coach that not 714 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 5: only knows what he's talking about, but a guy that 715 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 5: did it and did it at a high level and 716 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 5: the guy that you could buy into and trust. Yeah 717 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 5: when it comes to this defense, and you know, I 718 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 5: want you one hundred percent on on Harris. 719 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 6: I mean, you know a lot of guys that I 720 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 6: played with said he was you know, basically that guy 721 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 6: when you talk about press technique like he guys went 722 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 6: to him. You know, Ramsey went to him. Boy ya, 723 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 6: those guys went to him to get his teachings when 724 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 6: you talk about press cover. So he's an amazing defensive 725 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 6: back coach. And you can tell that secondary just kind 726 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 6: of kind of flows like he does. They got to 727 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 6: swagger like he does out there on the field. You 728 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 6: love to see that from your secondary. To me, you 729 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 6: know what really kind of popped out on tape to 730 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 6: me was one was Overshawn. You saw that speed. I mean, 731 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 6: he he popped off the tape. 732 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 2: He was flying. 733 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 6: Everywhere off of that field, and you love to see 734 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 6: that From the linebacker position. I like to see a 735 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 6: little bit more out of Clark. You know, he had 736 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 6: a limited snap, so I would have liked to see, 737 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 6: you know, a little bit more from him out there. 738 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 2: But overshan was flying. 739 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 6: You like to see what Bell had back at that 740 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 6: safety spot, and he showed up. I mean, player of 741 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 6: the game, eight tackles and an interception. About that, I 742 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 6: got to ask you about that. 743 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 5: It's just obviously you being a safety that played at 744 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage a lot, but also a guy 745 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 5: that played in coverage. How difficult that is from him 746 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 5: for him being that he was a linebacker now being 747 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 5: that far off the ball and what that does to him. 748 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 2: And his technique. Oh it was. 749 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 6: It had to be extremely tough for him because for me, 750 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 6: you know, I was down there a lot, but I 751 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 6: was also back, you know when it came to third down. 752 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 6: I was able to play half of the field. Last year, 753 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 6: I mean, he was down there in the in the 754 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 6: box pretty much the entirest year. So for him to 755 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 6: make that transition, you see things different because it happens 756 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 6: slower the further you are back from the ball, so 757 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 6: you can't just bite up on everything you see it 758 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 6: run you're thinking, oh, I'm a line I get down 759 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 6: hill and they'll hit you with that player go. 760 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 2: Over the top. 761 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 6: So I liked what I saw from him being able 762 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 6: to play that deep path of the field coming downhill. 763 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 6: We know he's gonna be great and run support, but 764 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 6: I loved it. You know, the athletic ability. Had the 765 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 6: interception out there. Uh so he's shown some promise. He's 766 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 6: shown some promise that he can't play that safety level 767 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 6: because we know when it comes to Zimmer's defense, he 768 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 6: likes those too high, and if you can't play high 769 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,399 Speaker 6: as a safety, you're not gonna be able to play 770 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 6: in Zimmer's defense. So I like what I saw from 771 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 6: him and the second round pick Kneeland. I mean, he 772 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 6: he stuck up to a couple of blocks out there. 773 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 6: He didn't like he was ripping off, but he kind 774 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 6: of reminded me of of Tyrone Crawford a little bit. 775 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 6: A guy that has an unbelievable motor. Might not be 776 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 6: the most athletic guy out there, but he has an 777 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 6: unbelievable motor. 778 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 2: And you saw it. 779 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 6: He was able to drive a lot of those blocks 780 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 6: back into the run game. He was always on the pile. 781 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 6: So those guys pretty much impressed me when it came 782 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,479 Speaker 6: to this defense. But I mean, you can't scoff at fourth, 783 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 6: fourth takeaways. You can't scoff at it, man. I love 784 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 6: that comp for Kneeland. If it's Crawford solid play for 785 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 6: a very long time, you know, versatile can play all 786 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 6: throughout the line. You know, I saw a lot of 787 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 6: Crawford of him out there. 788 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 5: And I think obviously we watched Mazzi, right, we had 789 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 5: our eyes on Maji, and I think I saw some 790 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 5: bright spots from Mozzi. I saw Mozi get up to field, 791 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 5: see saw push. I saw some push, but I also 792 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 5: saw him take on blocks and not get pushed to 793 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 5: the safeties. 794 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 13: You know. 795 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 5: I saw him kind of ground himself, anchor himself. But 796 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 5: then in true Mozzi fashion, it's like, oh, okay, you 797 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 5: know that that's a little off, you know, But I 798 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 5: think he's a guy that if you can get his 799 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 5: best in rotation. I've seen coaches do that, get guys 800 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 5: to be able to do what you know that they 801 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 5: can do best, and then get another guy to come 802 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 5: in right behind him. I saw some of the guys, 803 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 5: big Carl Davis, he had some good reps, and then 804 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 5: our seventh round draft pick also had some good reps 805 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 5: at the one technique as well, Chauncey Golston. 806 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 2: They move him around a lot. 807 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,879 Speaker 5: I saw him out at the defensive end position, where 808 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 5: I thought he was going to be more of a 809 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 5: three tech than you know, on on the edge. And 810 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 5: I think maybe through Sam Williams injury, that their experience 811 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,479 Speaker 5: that's you know, giving him uh that opportunity. But up front, 812 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 5: that was all I was looking. I was wanting to 813 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,959 Speaker 5: see how this defensive line flowed if they were able 814 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 5: to put any pressure on. Look, it's gonna be the 815 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 5: tremendous challenge to this defensive line is stopping to run. 816 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 5: You know it, I know it, and these guys are 817 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 5: going to be They're gonna have to be able to 818 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 5: tackle and stop the run. 819 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 4: I want to see more of Hoko and Golston playing 820 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,240 Speaker 4: out and playing out the defensive end. So this practice 821 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 4: coming up with the Rams and against the Raiders, I'd 822 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 4: like to see that to see exactly where where some 823 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 4: of that goes here, Mazzie Smith. Look, at the end 824 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 4: of the day, is the word trust. At what point 825 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 4: in time can we feel like you can trust Mazzie Smith? 826 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 4: And trust requires three things. Time, proofing, consistency. So game one, okay, 827 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 4: you know if pass fail, he passed for just doing 828 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 4: a past fail grade he passed, do it again, do 829 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 4: it again against the Rams and a joint practice, do 830 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 4: it again against the Raiders. And That's where I'm at 831 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 4: with Mozzie Smith. You have to show me consistently that 832 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 4: you can do this to be the player that that 833 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,280 Speaker 4: they've asked for. I mean, we're sitting here. 834 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 2: For being honest with ourselves. We're sitting around here trying. 835 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 4: To nicely judge a guy who's a first round pick. 836 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 4: We should be expecting more from him. 837 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 2: I know it's year two. 838 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 4: Year one wasn't going there, so he's trying to go 839 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 4: down the road. But dude, if this team is going 840 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 4: to be a playoff team, he must be an active 841 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 4: participant in them stopping the run. He has to be 842 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 4: because right now they have to show us behind doing 843 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 4: Number two. 844 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 5: Doesn't look like there's anybody now. It's a what do 845 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 5: you always say, do or don't do? There's no try, try, 846 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 5: and that's and that's where he is. I don't think 847 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 5: there's a there's nobody that's, you know, giving Mazi a 848 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 5: soft landing on where he is. 849 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 2: I mean, he's heard the criticism. 850 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 5: People are own him because of where he's been drafted, 851 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 5: and that's how I feel the same way about guiding 852 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:57,959 Speaker 5: not to switch over to him. But I'm just saying 853 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 5: like he's going to be judged according to where he 854 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 5: was picked. This defensive line, as you just stated, Man, 855 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 5: they are gonna have to stop the run. This has 856 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 5: been the Achilles Hill forever. They have to get stops. 857 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 5: Linebacker wise, Leah Fowl another guy that I was watching 858 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:13,720 Speaker 5: didn't really. 859 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 2: Get out of it more. Yeah, yeah, I thought I 860 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,399 Speaker 2: would get more out of him. 861 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 5: They had some other guys, number fifty seven, Uh, Buddy 862 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 5: Johnson from Kimball High School, a local product, you know, boy, 863 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 5: you know, getting an opportunity to get out there. Look, 864 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 5: I just wanted to see this, these linebackers flowing, uh 865 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 5: and getting downhill and getting tackles. One of the things 866 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 5: that I do feel really confident in is our safeties. 867 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 5: I mean, for a long time the Dallas Cowboys couldn't 868 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 5: find the safety. And now you know we got guys 869 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 5: like one year Thomas that's back there. I mean, now 870 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying with Bell, we have some 871 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 5: We have some guys that can really play. 872 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 4: I wouldn't say they couldn't find I would say they 873 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 4: didn't put a value in. They found church, but then 874 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 4: they didn't want to pay. 875 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 2: They didn't want to pay them, so they didn't find 876 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 2: the value that could get my brain. I think we 877 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 2: look at like but like we Wilson, you know, look, 878 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 2: we're gonna pay you. 879 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 4: Somebody got to Jerry and Steven and say, look, man, 880 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 4: you got you gotta write some checks. You got to 881 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,439 Speaker 4: put a couple of zeros here in the safetyes. Fine 882 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 4: because especially with the slot receiver, like the league is 883 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 4: changing here. Because there's a while when he wouldn't pay 884 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 4: me the linebackers. That was this THCINGD, we don't pay 885 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 4: me to the linebackers. That's when he let Kenny Norton 886 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 4: go and then you saw Ken goes to San Francisco 887 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,439 Speaker 4: and wins the Super Bowl there. So along the way, 888 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 4: it's been very interesting how they have changed philosophies and 889 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 4: when they decided to actually put some money into. 890 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 2: The safeties and value it now. 891 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 4: I think you said, you see what you're getting out 892 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 4: of this bell coming out of Florida, A and M. 893 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 4: They gave him a lot of money as a free agent, 894 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 4: right so we spent that first year as a swack 895 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 4: player adjusting to the league. Last year kind of had 896 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 4: to play out of position. And right now I think 897 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 4: we're seeing everything he had to do last year playing 898 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 4: out a position linebacker now going back to safety and 899 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 4: have an experience. You're seeing like, man, this is a 900 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 4: good football player. So they invested in the player. 901 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 2: They put in the time. I just don't think they 902 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 2: did that before. 903 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 5: We take that's you know, maybe that's the part of 904 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 5: Will mcclay's brilliance is his ability to identify this position. 905 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 5: You see it now with guys like land as well. 906 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 5: Uh we I mean I know for sure, like the 907 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 5: Simmons that was in Denver, I was crying a guy 908 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 5: like that because you need it. I mean, after you 909 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 5: have look at the NFL for so long and you 910 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 5: see those safeties that are just game changes, game rerecords, 911 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 5: guys that can get interceptions, And now I'm looking around 912 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 5: and I'm like Malik Hooker Wilson, Now you have ball 913 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 5: guys that are pushing for a position. How do you 914 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 5: how do you keep players that are showing you that 915 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 5: kind of promise off the field. So, I mean we 916 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 5: went from not having none to some a bunch and 917 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 5: so I'm loving what I'm saying in the secondary. 918 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 2: Is it let me ask you a quick question to 919 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 2: get back to the second level. 920 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 3: Is it. 921 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 6: Is it a lock that Clark and Kendrick is gonna 922 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 6: be those two, those two linebackers, And I think Kendricks 923 00:41:59,480 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 6: for sure. 924 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 2: But the trust trust fact right now, what do you 925 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 2: what are you gonna do? Is gonna go with the 926 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:06,879 Speaker 2: people he trust? 927 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 13: Trust? 928 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 5: Look I'm look, here's I think Overshawan makes this. He 929 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 5: makes an interesting case. He's going to be one of 930 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 5: those guys that you have to He's gonna have to 931 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 5: be on the field. He's going to be in their 932 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 5: rotation and packages. I need to see more out of Clark. 933 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 5: You know, DeMont Clark had a bad season last season, 934 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 5: and we had a bunch of tape in highlights to 935 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 5: prove it. And so, like we were talking about the 936 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 5: defensive line and stopping the run. That's why you bring 937 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 5: in the Kendris because you know, his one thing that 938 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 5: you know he could do is get downhill and get tackles, 939 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 5: and so we have to be able to present that 940 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 5: that kind of pressure at the second level. But right now, 941 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 5: I mean, without knowing a whole lot about Overshawn out 942 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 5: of Texas, you know, and then him getting injured in 943 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 5: that preseason game, he really is just one of those 944 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,399 Speaker 5: players that I'm like, man, this dude is just got 945 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 5: juice with him and that kind of quickness, that kind 946 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 5: of explosion. 947 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 6: He's a little undersized, but he reminds me of the 948 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 6: guy from from Cleveland, number six flyingbacker. I pushed his 949 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:16,439 Speaker 6: last Yeah, but I think he could be that type 950 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 6: of player on KOC or something. 951 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 5: Yeah. 952 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a beast. 953 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 5: I believe he was out of note I don't know. Yeah, 954 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 5: but he's just one of those guys that can tackle. 955 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,879 Speaker 5: But it's just a high motor guy and it's gonna 956 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 5: be flying all over the field. 957 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 2: I like him. I like him a lot. I just 958 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 2: you know, look, Clark, it's a lot of guys got 959 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 2: pressure on him right now. 960 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 8: So this is good. 961 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 2: Yes, that is This is a. 962 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 4: Good thing because we've seen too many times when they 963 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 4: run out there and there was no competition, and then 964 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 4: when it came to the competition they were playing against 965 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 4: it a slap run over. So this is a good thing. 966 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 4: All right, let's do it again in two days. Harrison, 967 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 4: I'll be appreciate you ate appreciate you have new scrugs. 968 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,800 Speaker 4: And for Jazz, Josh, everybody who's the part of this. 969 00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 4: Chris Bean, we thank you. This has been a play. 970 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 4: I was talking about Aristocrat gaming on Dallas Cowboys dot 971 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:02,959 Speaker 4: Com radio. 972 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 973 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,280 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football clubby