1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:02,559 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 2: Fed's reveal their shock move to hunt down the glam 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: yoga instructor in her love Rivals murder. How'd they do it? 4 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: being with us. 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 3: Up and coming star cyclist Mariah Moe Wilson dies after 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 3: an ambush. Her body found in her friend's bathroom, bloody 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 3: from gunshots. 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 4: What happened to Moe Wilson? What happened to Mariah? And 10 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 4: what is. 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: The secret strategy the RUSS the shot reveal Fed's used 12 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: to try and track down her killer. 13 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 4: It all starts here. 14 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 5: Okay, tell me exactly what happened. 15 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 6: My friend is staying with me and I just walked 16 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 6: in and she's laying on the bathroom floor. There's blood everywhere, 17 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 6: and I don't I don't know what happened. 18 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 5: How old is she? 19 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 6: She's twenty six? 20 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 5: Okay. Is she awake? 21 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 7: She's not awake. 22 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 6: There's blood all over her face and all on the 23 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 6: back of her head. 24 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 5: Is she breathing? She no, she's okay, Okay. I'm getting 25 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 5: help started right now, and then I'm going to tell 26 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 5: you exactly what to do. Okay, okay, And That is. 27 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 4: Where it all starts. 28 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: A friend of world class biker Mo Mariah found dead 29 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: in the friends apartment. 30 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 4: Caitlin Cash. What does this and no woman call reveal? 31 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 4: This is the call. 32 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: There you are seeing newly obtained body cam video. 33 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 4: There's the friend. 34 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: There's Caitlin Cash who comes home to find the bullet 35 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: ridden body of her friend cornered trapped in the bathroom. 36 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 5: Listen, Okay, lay her flat on her back on the 37 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 5: floor and remove anything under her head. Let me know 38 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 5: when that's done. 39 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 7: Yeah, there's nothing under her head. 40 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 5: Okay, she flat up her back on the floor. Yeah, carefully. 41 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 5: I'm going to tell you how to do chest compressions. Caitlyn. 42 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 5: Place the heel of your hand on the breastbone right 43 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 5: between the nipples, and put your other hand on top 44 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 5: of that hand. 45 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 46 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 5: Then pump the chest hard and fast, at least twice 47 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 5: per second and two inches deep. Okay, let the chest 48 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 5: come all the way up between pumps. We're gonna do 49 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 5: this until help can take over. Count out loud so 50 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 5: I can count with you. Right between the breastbone exactly, like, 51 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 5: right between the nipples, right in the center of her chest. 52 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 2: And that is the way Mini prosecutors, including myself, and 53 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: I was still trying cases start a trial, to take 54 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: the jury. 55 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 4: Back to the moment, the moment when. 56 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 2: A body is discovered, that harrowing time, those minutes when 57 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: someone's trying to revive the victim. 58 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 4: And of course you want to weigh the credibility. 59 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: Of the person that calls nine one one, because very 60 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: often statistically the person that finds the body is the killer, 61 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 2: but not so in this case. And that nine one 62 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: one call from the friend Caitlin Cash, set off a 63 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: series of events that took the FEDS, basically government bounty 64 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: hunters all the way around the world to try and 65 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: find Moe's killer. 66 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 5: Listen, just pump part of fast and then count out 67 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 5: loud so I can count with you. 68 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 6: One, two, three, four, five, It's. 69 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 5: Good, keep going eleven. 70 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 6: Twelve, thirteen, fourteen, eighteen, thirteen, twenty. 71 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 5: That's good, cat, don't stop, keep going. 72 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: You're doing good, the friend, dissolving into tears as she 73 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 2: tries to revive Mariah, the world class dirt biker in 74 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 2: her twenties, up and coming, just hitting the charts. I 75 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: remember distinctly when Moe was found murdered, joining me an 76 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 2: all start paddle to make sense of what we are 77 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: learning right now. To Troy Slayton, first of all, high 78 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: profile criminal defense attorney joining us out of LA it's 79 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: pretty hard to even fathom that this could have been 80 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: a random killing because Mariah was found wedged in between 81 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: the commode and the wall, which is a very tight spot. 82 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 2: Bullets fired at close range, and you know, Troy Slayton, 83 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: we could determine that if gunshot residue is found on 84 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: the body, which proves that the shot was from at 85 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: least thirty six or less inches away, so it was 86 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: close range. Slaton, this wasn't no random shooting that was 87 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 2: determined very quickly, Troy. 88 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 8: Just because the shooting is at close range, Nancy, doesn't 89 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 8: mean that this wasn't some sort of breaking. 90 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 4: Maybe she surprised the burglar. 91 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 8: Maybe she surprised somebody who was doing some sort of 92 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 8: home invasion or looking for something, and she came out unexpectedly. 93 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 8: Just because there's no gunshot residue, No, just because there 94 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 8: is gunshot residue rather doesn't mean that this wasn't some 95 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 8: sort of random ac Troy. 96 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: Do you ever get tired of just spinning out bs? 97 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 4: Because I guarantee you. 98 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: If you answer truthfully, you will admit that when there 99 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: are burglaries, typically when a burglar is interrupted. 100 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 4: They run. 101 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: They don't want you. They don't want a murder charge. 102 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: They want your TV and your VCR. That's what they want. 103 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 2: They want cash, they want drugs, they want jewelry, not you. 104 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: Nobody wants to catch It's over a burglary, that's bs. 105 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 8: This is in Austin, and there's a lot of dangerous 106 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 8: folks in Austin. 107 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: And this is a lot of dangerous folks, as you say, 108 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 2: all over the country. 109 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 8: There are, but Nancy, Okay, and that made a lot 110 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 8: of sense. This is a closed bathroom. This is a 111 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 8: small space, so any kind of shot inside the bathroom 112 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 8: is going to be a close range by definition. This 113 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 8: wasn't some sort of men. 114 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 2: Pretty established that you're just like, okay, we already said 115 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 2: that it's close range. 116 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 4: We know that you know what. 117 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: Moving forward, I want to get off the fact that 118 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: this was a targeted shooting, which it was, to. 119 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 4: A shot reveal about how. 120 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 2: The FEDS try to catch down Mariah's killer. But we've 121 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 2: just obtained body can bodycam of the friend, Caitlin Cash. 122 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: Let's watch, let's see what police found at the scene. 123 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 9: Awesome, Okay, yeah, I have shot. 124 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 10: Heard any shots and are now no, that's it. 125 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, see yourself from you are seeing nearly obtained bodycam 126 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 2: footage of what officers find when they first get there. 127 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 4: That's the Austin p D. 128 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: And you see the terrified look on the friend, Caitlyn 129 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: Cash's face. 130 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 4: Now we get our first clue as to the identity 131 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 4: of the killer. Listen, freak Colin, Yeah, you know, yeah 132 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 4: he went and our friends are I mean like acquaintances. 133 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: You don't know what. 134 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 11: Harry Drives is a cyclist, a cyclist, I live in 135 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 11: this area. 136 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 4: He lives in South Austin. Who is Colin Strickland right there? 137 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: As you're standing over the dead body of Mo Mariah 138 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: the dirt biker, they get the name Colin Strickland. Listen 139 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 2: to Colin Strickland when police go and find him. 140 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 5: So you know Anna. 141 00:08:51,040 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 11: Mo. Yeah, everybody calls from love man monk last night's 142 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 11: Wilson writer. She's a writer for you. There's really easy 143 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 11: way to say this, sir. 144 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 12: So apparently last night she passed away? 145 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 13: How did. 146 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 14: She? 147 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 5: Right? Now, it's a it's an open investigation, but it 148 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 5: is being investigated as a. 149 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: Homicide crime stories with Nancy Grace. 150 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 2: Back to Troy Slayton, the veteran defense attorney joining us 151 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 2: out of LA. 152 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 4: Let's see that again. As I'm talking to Slayton. 153 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 2: This is newly obtained Bodykim footage. 154 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 4: They get the name Colin Strickland. 155 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 2: He's a cyclist at the murder scene from the friend. 156 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 4: They find him. This Troy is when they. 157 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: Go tell him and he learns Mariah is dead, watch 158 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: him because that's what Ellie law enforcement is doing. 159 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 4: They're watching his reaction. Troy. 160 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 8: Absolutely, they're looking at everything, they're recording it, and they're 161 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 8: talking to him and all of this could be potential evidence. 162 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 4: And he doesn't seem that shocked at all. 163 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 8: He seems kind of nonchalant, his hands on his hips 164 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 8: as he says, oh, do we know how it happened? 165 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 8: At first, after he declines saying that he knows who 166 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 8: Moe is and he knows Darmo. 167 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 2: I disagree with you because he goes, Anna, Mo, yeah, 168 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: I see what you're saying. But then pretty quickly he goes, 169 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: yes I do. She's a gravel rider. Yes, I do 170 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 2: know her, And then they tell him but I do 171 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: agree with you, and I'd like to see it control room. 172 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 4: I want to judge it just like police did. 173 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 2: He seems, as you say, very non chalant as they 174 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 2: are telling him that Mariah, the woman he just had 175 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: dinner with in less. 176 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 4: Than twenty four hours before, is dead. 177 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 2: Straight out to Alexis Terzschak, crimeonline dot Com investigative reporter Alexis, 178 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: please explain the connection between Mariah Mo the dirt bike champion, 179 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: and Colin Strickland. Why are they looking at Colin Strickland. 180 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 15: So Colin is a very successful bike rider, Moe was 181 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 15: also in this world. 182 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 4: They actually had a relationship. 183 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 15: They had been dating for a brief while and then 184 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 15: so then they were together in Austin, Texas, where he lived, 185 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 15: but she was visiting. She had come into town for 186 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 15: a bike race. 187 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 4: They met up. 188 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 15: She was staying with her friend. He took her and 189 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 15: they went swimming in Austin and then hit like a 190 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 15: public swimming pool, and then they went out to dinner together. 191 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 15: And that is why the police are there. Because the 192 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 15: girl that she was staying with, Kate Lacashus. The last 193 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 15: person she was with was Colin. They went swimming, they 194 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 15: went out together. I know they were together. She's staying 195 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 15: with me and so that's why police went to see Colin. 196 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 3: As police retrace Wilson's steps the night she dies, they 197 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 3: learned the person that she had dinner plans with was 198 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 3: Colin Strickland, another cyclist and a past love interest. The 199 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 3: pair first went for a swim at deep Eddie Pool, 200 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 3: then it was off to dinner at Poolberger. After dinner, 201 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: Strickland dropped Wilson off at her friend's house and went 202 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 3: home to the house he shares with his girlfriend. A 203 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 3: Texas yoga instructor linked to the shooting death of a 204 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 3: standout cyclist. How did us marshalls track the runaway suspect 205 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 3: and how does a nose job come into play? 206 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: Straight back out to Alexis, Tereschuk, explain what we're seeing, Alexis. 207 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 15: So this is a ring camera on a door near 208 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 15: right by the Caitlyn Cash's house. Kaitlyn Cash is the 209 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 15: friend of Mo Wilson, where Moe was staying when she 210 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 15: was in town. What you're seeing is a black jeep Cherokee, 211 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 15: and it is driving by and it's daylight here, so 212 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 15: you can see it drive by, casing the place where 213 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 15: Moe was staying. She's actually staying in the back house 214 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 15: of this main house. It's like an apartment in the 215 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 15: back of the house, and so that shows two different 216 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 15: angles of the same car driving by within seconds of 217 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 15: each other. 218 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 12: Our investigation shows that before her death, Wilson was in 219 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 12: the company of Colin Strickland. The preliminary investigation revealed that 220 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 12: Colin dropped Wilson off at seventeen oh eight Maple Avenue 221 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 12: at approximately eight thirty six pm. Investigators obtained ring camera 222 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 12: video from the neighborhood the capture a vehicle at seventeen 223 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 12: oh eight Maple Avenue within two minutes of the time 224 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 12: Colin dropped off Wilson. It was later discovered that vehicle 225 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 12: was registered to Colin's girlfriend, Caitlin Armstrong. 226 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 4: Straight out to Special Guests joining US. 227 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: IRV Brandt, former Senior Inspector at the US Marshall's Service 228 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: International Investigations Branch, who has traveled all around the world 229 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: hunting down bad guys and glam yoga instructors wanted for murder. 230 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: He is the author of a series of mysteries on Amazon, 231 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: the Jack Solos. His most recent forever solo, Night of 232 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 2: the Dragon. 233 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 4: IRV Brandt. 234 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: She's caught on video circling like a vulture around the 235 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 2: home where the victim is staying, just before Mariah is murdered. 236 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 4: You'd think should be easy to catch, right. 237 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 16: Well, yes, Nancy, you would assume that that you have 238 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 16: identified a suspect. You have them on camera, so it 239 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 16: would be easy, you know, to get that. 240 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, in a perfect world, your mouth to Gadzier, Right, Well, 241 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: it didn't work out that way. 242 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 4: Listen. 243 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 12: The Awesome Police Department's tech intel unit located calling at 244 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 12: his residence and he agreed to an interview. Armstrong was 245 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 12: transported to the main police station and interview. Armstrong was 246 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 12: questioning about her vehicle being in the area as pictured 247 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 12: on the ring camera. 248 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 4: However, she would not confirm or deny. 249 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 12: Being in the area of the murder and quickly terminated 250 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 12: the interview. 251 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: Okay, let me understand what I'm hearing, Alexis terschuk Thy 252 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: glam you instructor, Caitlin Armstrong. They brought her in for questioning. 253 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 4: Right, they let her go. Why did they let her go? 254 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 15: Well, it was a big mix up on their parts. 255 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 15: So there was an outstanding warrant for her arrest that 256 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 15: because she had not paid the bill for botox treatment 257 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 15: she had, so the police arrested her or brought her 258 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 15: in because of this outstanding warrant. This is the first 259 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 15: thing they bring her in. They put her in this 260 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 15: room to talk to her. Really, they want to talk 261 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 15: about what happened with Mo Wilson, Colin Strickland, her boyfriend instead, 262 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 15: so they say to her, you're not under arrest, you're 263 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 15: here because well, there was this outstanding warrant. However, there 264 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 15: was a mix up on the form and it said 265 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 15: it had a different birthdate, so all the police then thought, 266 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 15: oh no, this isn't the right warrant for her, so 267 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 15: we can't really hold her and we have to let 268 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 15: her go. But they kept trying and trying and trying 269 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 15: to get her to talk about why her car was 270 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 15: seen at Moe Wilson's place and she went home in. 271 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 4: Just a minute. 272 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: Elezis Tereschuk too many words, way too many words. So 273 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 2: they find out that her boyfriend, Collins Trickland, has dinner 274 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: with Mo, the murder victim, and her car. Yoga guru 275 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 2: is circling the murder, saying just before the murder, two 276 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: plus two I think still egals four. 277 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 4: So bottom line. 278 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 2: They get her on an outstanding warrant where she got 279 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: botox and went ooh, I've. 280 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 4: Got the wrong credit card. Let me go get the 281 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 4: right one out of the car leaves and now it 282 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 4: comes back. 283 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: Then on that warrant they have the wrong DOB and 284 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 2: she slips away. But guess what I've got. Nealie obtained 285 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: of her in the interview and listen, now we know 286 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: she murdered mo over a Hamburger with her boyfriend, and 287 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 2: this is why she's upset. 288 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 4: Listen, you love. 289 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 12: Foster arrested me in front of my house, in front 290 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 12: of all of my neighbors and carried me in here 291 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 12: in handcuffs. 292 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 15: In front of ye incredibly imagine. 293 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 13: Yeah, and I'm so sorry. 294 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 2: Joining me right now is special guest Josephine Winsle. She 295 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 2: is Crystal Mitchell's mother. Crystal Mitchell was brutally beaten and 296 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: murdered by mister Wright R. J. McLeod marine pumped full 297 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 2: of steroids, who murders Crystal and then abscon's leaves and 298 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: goes all around the world. Josephine comes out of retire 299 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: previous detective and devotes her life to finding her daughter's killer. Josephine, 300 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: do you hear what we're saying? Mariah is going down 301 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: multiple times in close quarters. Caitlin Armstrong is brought in 302 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 2: on a botox warrant and she's whining that she was 303 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: humiliated when she was arrested. 304 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 7: Really, these people are just you know, niceissistic people, and 305 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 7: you know, well through the police oft, isn't it. And 306 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 7: it allowed them to let them go and let her run, 307 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 7: which is ridiculous. I mean, data bird, Na, she's a 308 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 7: still elder somehow, and throw that up, or at least 309 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 7: watched her. 310 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 2: Let me throwand former US Marshall erv a little embarrassed 311 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 2: for law enforcement right now. They let her go, which 312 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 2: led to this wild goose chase all around the country. 313 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 16: Yes, Nancy, it is embarrassing. Anytime that you're conducting an investigation, 314 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 16: like a murder investigation, there's a set of protocols that 315 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 16: you go through and these protocols have to be followed, 316 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 16: and you have a defense attorney on the panel. He'll 317 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 16: tell you that if the police mess up, that's what 318 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 16: they're going to jump on. So they obviously didn't follow 319 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 16: the protocols exactly and ended up having to release her. 320 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 4: You know what, let's. 321 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 2: Just have a little refresher of Brandt. I mean, I 322 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 2: hate to rub it in your nose. How big of 323 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: a screw up this is. But to doctor Michelle Dupree, 324 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 2: re now forensic pathologist, he shot to the nation's consciousness 325 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 2: during the Alex Murdog trial and the double murders of 326 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 2: wife Maggie and son Paul, author of Money, Mischief and 327 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 2: Murder the Murdog Dynasty. The rest of the story, but 328 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 2: from my purposes, the author of homicide investigation Field Guy, 329 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 2: doctor Dupre, could you describe Mariah's wounds? 330 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 13: So, yes, Nancy, So they were there was a head woods, 331 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 13: also a wound to the back of the head, and 332 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 13: there was a woman directly to her heart. Basically, they 333 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 13: were range. There was simpling on these wounds. 334 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 4: They were meant to be lethal, Doctor Dupre. Did you 335 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 4: say that Mariah was shot in the heart. 336 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 13: Yes, she was shot in the chest. 337 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 2: In the heart, Doctor Dupree, I find it very difficult 338 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 2: to believe that someone was accidentally or coincidentally shot in 339 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 2: the heart at close range. 340 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 13: No, Nancy, this was a targeted This was intentional. These 341 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 13: woods were meant to be lethal. They were those personal 342 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 13: and they hit the vital places, the head and the heart. 343 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 2: Doctor Jeff Kalsowski joining us. Forensic psychologist, author of Dark Sides. 344 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 2: You can find him on YouTube at doctor Jeff Kaloshowski, 345 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 2: Forensic Psychologist. Doctor Jeff, thank you for being with us. 346 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 2: I'm just a trial lawyer. You're the shrink. 347 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 4: But I know that. 348 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 2: There is a psychological implication when a victim is shot 349 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 2: in the heart, right, And like. 350 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 10: The medical examiner mentioned, this is a very personal murder. 351 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 10: It's a very efficient murder. It's done in the apartment, 352 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 10: in the bathroom, one way in, one way out. There's 353 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 10: no evidence of the struggle. This was an assassination for sure. 354 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 2: Given the fact that Mariah, in her twenties, is gunned down, 355 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 2: wedged into the bathroom in a tiny space. 356 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 4: I want you to hear. 357 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 2: Not only is the glam yoga instructor Kaylin Armstrong whining 358 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 2: that she was quote incredibly humiliated when she was arrested 359 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 2: on her botox warrant. Woman, Yet she's humiliated. Listen to 360 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 2: what she says. 361 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 4: When they were asking her about what happened. 362 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 15: So what were you doing yesterday? 363 00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 5: I would like to leave? 364 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 15: I think you would like to leave? Yeah, Okay, talking 365 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 15: to tonight. I don't actually know, and I would like 366 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 15: to leave. 367 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 5: Okay, is there any explanation as far as why the 368 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 5: vehicle would be over there? 369 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 10: I would like to leave. 370 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 6: I'm prettylead. 371 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 3: Okay, you're the jealous love rival stock Moe Wilson and 372 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 3: who called nine one one after the star cyclist was shot. 373 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 4: Sounds so directly Aboven shot her. 374 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 2: It's a personal and look up the girlfriend, Caitlyn Armstrong, 375 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 2: yoga teacher. 376 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 4: You can please the sud. 377 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 11: The murder is the readiest case in Texas. 378 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 4: Well. I got to give it to Lifetime with. 379 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,959 Speaker 2: The yoga teacher killer, the Kaitlyn Armstrong story, and they 380 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 2: got that right. 381 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 4: That's pretty much the way prosecutors say. 382 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: The whole thing went down before Kaitlin Armstrong vanished into 383 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: thin air. 384 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 4: So how did the feds track her? 385 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 2: What rous did they use to try to find the 386 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 2: glam yoga instructor halfway. 387 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 4: Around the world That was from our. 388 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: Friends at Lifetime, But as glamorously as that murder was 389 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 2: portrayed in the Kaitlin Armstrong story, the killer yoga teacher. 390 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 2: Let's have a little dose all shot of reality. 391 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 4: Take a listen to this. 392 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 3: The day after cops questioned Armstrong, she unloads her Jeep 393 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 3: Grand Cherokee for twelve thousand dollars to a CarMax in 394 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 3: South Austin, the same jeep that appears on surveillance video 395 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 3: in the area where Moe Wilson was gunned down. Police 396 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 3: realize Kaitlin Armstrong is nowhere to be found. Armstrong is 397 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 3: captured on surveillance footage at the ABIA the Austin Bergstrom 398 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 3: International Airport, boarding a flight bound for Houston, then onto 399 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 3: New York. After tracking Armstrong to New York's LaGuardia Airport, 400 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 3: she seems to vanish into thin air. Armstrong is then 401 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 3: dropped off at Newark Liberty International Airport, but note reservations 402 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 3: were ever found, and it isn't clear if she simply 403 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 3: disappeared again from this airport. 404 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: Now, how this woman can appear at various airports and 405 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: then vanish from an airport. 406 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 4: Alexis Tereschuk. 407 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 2: She spotted at Lagordia, then she's spotted at Newark, just 408 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,239 Speaker 2: walking through the airport, very calmly, as calm as she 409 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 2: was in that police interview, and then she vanishes. 410 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 4: We have her on video and she vanishes. 411 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 15: Alexis so there was no record of her taking any 412 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 15: flights out. After she lands in New York, she goes 413 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 15: from one airport to the other. However, her sister lived 414 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 15: right near this airport, and police then believe that she 415 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 15: took her sister's passport if they look fairly similar to 416 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 15: each other, and led the country to Troy. 417 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 2: Slayton joining us a veteran trial lawyer out of La Troy. 418 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: Don't you think it looks worse if and when the 419 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,719 Speaker 2: killer is apprehended and they go in front of a jury, 420 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 2: The jury absolutely can hear evidence of flight. 421 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 4: They can hear that. 422 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 2: This woman somehow managed to elude authorities. They'll find out 423 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 2: about the prior botox warrant. They'll see the interviews where 424 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 2: she wanted to leave. That it's not a comment on 425 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 2: your right to remain silent. She wanted to leave. They 426 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 2: can hear that. And so saying oh, yeah, I was 427 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: at Walmart, I was at Costco. 428 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 4: No, no, no. When she's asked. 429 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 2: Where were you at the time Mariah was gunned down, 430 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: she asked to leave, they'll hear that. Then they'll hear 431 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 2: she disappeared from Newark Careport. 432 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 8: Not only will they hear it, but the judge will 433 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 8: give an instruction that says that evidence that flight and 434 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 8: running is consciousness of guilt, and they may use that 435 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 8: evidence as consciousness of guilt. But you know, look, I'm 436 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 8: not in the business of defending the police here. But 437 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 8: the police did the absolute right thing in not holding 438 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 8: her on a warrant with a wrong birthdate, because we 439 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 8: don't want to hold people who are not the right 440 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 8: people on wrong warrants, not even for one second. So 441 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 8: the police did the absolute right thing. 442 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 4: The warrant wasn't wrong, the dob was wrong. 443 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 2: But I appreciate you parsing words and splitting hairs. 444 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 8: That's what we do, Nancy, to make sure that not 445 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 8: even one innocent person suffers the wrath of the government. 446 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 2: You know what. I appreciate you climbing up yet again 447 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 2: on your soapbox. 448 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 4: But let's be honest about the law. 449 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 2: Where there is a minor defect in a warrant, it's 450 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 2: been uphild by the US Supreme Court, remember them up 451 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 2: in Washington, the US Supreme Court. The US Supreme Court 452 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: has ruled that a minor defect in a warrant, be 453 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 2: it or rest, does not negate the validity. 454 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 4: Of the warrant. You also been a later case to 455 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 4: refresh your recollection. 456 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 8: This is the wrong birth date. 457 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 4: So there's a lot of people with that same digit. 458 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 2: By one digit, same name, same description, same height, same weight, 459 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 2: same finger prints, same everything. 460 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 4: Just the DNB is offer. 461 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 8: I'm friends with four Troy Slayton's on Facebook because I 462 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 8: thought it was funny. And so just because somebody has 463 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 8: the same name doesn't mean that it's the same person. 464 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 2: You know what, Troy, I'm so happy for you that 465 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 2: you have friends now on Facebook. But to Josephine Wentzel 466 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 2: joining us, her daughter was murdered Crystal Mitchell. 467 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 4: And her killer jacked up on steroids. 468 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 2: Goes halfway around and with a serious rap sheet of 469 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 2: domestic violence, flees and goes halfway around the world. 470 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 4: What do you make of it, Josephine, that. 471 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 2: Caitlin Armstrong just disappears in New York's Liberty Never see 472 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: it again. 473 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 7: It was a liner, like you said, a minor defect. Okay, 474 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 7: it was a very serious case. What would it cost 475 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 7: her for inconvenience if they held her and made the 476 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 7: phone call to find out is this the person or not? 477 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 7: It was a very serious case. Rather than saying Oh wow, 478 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 7: you fit the profile and everything, but you have their 479 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 7: own data birth so we'll let you go. And you know, 480 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 7: there's nothing on the borders to stop criminals from fleeing 481 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 7: into other countries. So nobody's alerted that this person wanted 482 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 7: it is going to flee the country. And that's another 483 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 7: issue that I'm pushing, by the way, with the Marshals 484 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 7: and with the States, and we're taking it to Washington 485 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 7: about having having an alert to alert as when these 486 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 7: people are going to cross over when they wanted. 487 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 2: And then investigators, basically US bounty hunters, the US Marshals, 488 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 2: who I hold in great esteem, do some old fashioned 489 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 2: police work. 490 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 14: Investigators turned to old fashioned police work, managing to track 491 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 14: down the phone number of an American businessman they believe 492 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 14: had connected with Armstrong. At some point, he was sent 493 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 14: pictures of Caitlin and says he's seen her, but she 494 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 14: doesn't look like that anymore. She had cut her hair 495 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 14: and dyed it red, and she's going by the name Beth. 496 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 14: He said he met her at a yoga studio in Jocko. 497 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: Now to find Caitlin Armstrong, the so called glam yoga teacher, how. 498 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 4: Did she vanish? 499 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 2: In the airport at Liberty International that's in Newark. How 500 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 2: did that happen? The place is like a casino in Vegas. 501 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 2: It's covered, it's blanketed and security cameras. Yet she did 502 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 2: it straight out to IRV Brandt. LA law enforcement then 503 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:47,719 Speaker 2: gets fixated on the fact that Caitlin Armstrong's sister lost 504 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 2: her passport. 505 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:50,719 Speaker 4: Then what happened? 506 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 16: Well, Nancy, that's that's the break in the case. When 507 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 16: you're hunting a fugitive, you're looking at family members, and 508 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 16: the sisters said that her passport was lost. Well, a 509 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 16: search of the records of the flight records show that 510 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 16: there was a flight in her that she booked a 511 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 16: flight in her name to Costa Rica, and that led 512 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 16: investigators to believe that it was actually Caitlin Armstrong and 513 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 16: not her sister. In Costa Rica. 514 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 2: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, the Feds shock move to 515 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 2: hunt down the glam yoga guru and the love rival murder. 516 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: It's revealed how did they get her listen. 517 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 14: Us Marshalls used one of their own female operatives going 518 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 14: to yoga classes to see if they could spot Armstrong. 519 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 14: Turns out people had seen Armstrong at local spots in 520 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 14: San Theresa, but they didn't realize who she was. She 521 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 14: was hiding in planes using different names like Beth and Ari. 522 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 14: Investigators turned to local Facebook page, taking out an ad 523 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 14: for a yoga instructor to see what would happen. After 524 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 14: a week, a reply identifying herself as a yoga instructor 525 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 14: pretending to be a tourist, and investigator goes into a 526 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 14: hostel trying to get a good look at the woman. 527 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,719 Speaker 14: She resembles Caitlin, but not one hundred percent. As he 528 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 14: got close to the woman, he sees a bandage on 529 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 14: her nose and her lips are swollen, but the eyes 530 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 14: are the same. Now investigators know why they have had 531 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 14: so much trouble finding Armstrong. She had been getting plastic surgery. 532 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 2: IRV brand This is second verse, same as the first 533 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: again and I'm talking about the killer r J. 534 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 4: Mccloyd. 535 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 2: What is Kaitlin Armstrong doing in Costa Rica. She's teaching 536 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 2: yoga ding ding ding ding, same thing with McLeod. So 537 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 2: let me understand IRV Brandt and the case. And she 538 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 2: with Caitlin Armstrong, the yoga teacher. The US Marshals, the 539 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 2: FEDS actually use a female operative and what does the 540 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 2: operative do. 541 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 16: Well, the operative is looking for the fugitive in an 542 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 16: area that the fugitive is known to be comfortable with, 543 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 16: and that would be teaching yoga, So the spots that 544 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 16: yoga teachers would frequent and that area in general. 545 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 2: I guess it's not a huge leap to look for 546 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: her teaching yoga. And then they run into the American 547 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 2: businessman where they track him down that states he had 548 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 2: seen her, but she didn't look the. 549 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 4: Same, and that he had met her in a yoga studio. 550 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 4: So again not a far leap. 551 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 2: But to doctor Michelle Dupree, she was barely recognizable because 552 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 2: of plastic surgery that had to hurt. 553 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 13: Yes, Nancy absolutely, and you know the swelling on the face, 554 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 13: all of this. She's gonna heal, but she is gonna 555 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 13: look different, and she's going to also confuse any facial recognition. 556 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 2: Doctor Jeff Kalashwski, the length this woman went to, that's 557 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 2: going to impress a jury. 558 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 4: What does that tell you, Well. 559 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 10: It's going to impress a jury that she was obviously 560 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 10: being deceitful trying to hide her identity. And then the 561 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 10: big question is why did you feel I need to 562 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 10: do that, and that's the kind of question the jury's 563 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 10: gonna ask. 564 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 4: IRV Brandt? Is this common? 565 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 2: IRV Brandt has spent his entire career chasing down the 566 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 2: bad guys with the US Marshall Service. He's traveled all 567 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 2: over the world for them and is now a successful author. 568 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 2: I wonder who Jack Solo could be. But that said, 569 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 2: we see it in the movies Earth. But is it 570 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 2: common for wanted murderers to actually have plastic surgery, sometimes. 571 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 4: Even trying to get rid of their fingerprints? 572 00:33:54,760 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 16: It is Nancy, someone who knows that they're being They 573 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 16: know that they're being followed, that people are looking for them, 574 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,280 Speaker 16: that their faces have been on the news. The most 575 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 16: common thing uh with fugitive is to change your facial appearance. 576 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 16: Whether it's cutting off all your hair if you have 577 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 16: long hair, it's dyeing your hair, if you have red hair, 578 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 16: maybe changing it to brown hair, to you know, trying 579 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 16: to change some of your facial features. And it usually 580 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 16: starts with the nose and to throw off facial recognition. 581 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 16: Anything that you can do to hide from the person 582 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 16: that you were before. 583 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 2: Doctor Duprie, this is very extensive surgery. Did you see 584 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 2: those shots and then she tried to tell somebody she 585 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,439 Speaker 2: was hitting the nose with a surfboard. Okay, what did 586 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 2: all that surgery entail, Doctor Duprie. 587 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 13: Nancy, that's a lot, not to mention the expense of it, 588 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 13: but you're basically reconstructing major portions of her face. First 589 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 13: of all, this took a long time, and secondly, it 590 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 13: was expensive. 591 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 2: Alexis Terresschuk, how was she living? Wasn't she in a 592 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 2: youth hostel? 593 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 5: She was. 594 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 15: She was living in a small beach town in Costa 595 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 15: Rica and just a hostel, which is really less than 596 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 15: a hotel. 597 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 4: And she was really. 598 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 15: Running out of money. So she had sold her car 599 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 15: for twelve thousand dollars. She sold it, you know, the 600 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 15: day after she murdered mo. But that money was running 601 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 15: out because she spent seventy five hundred of that on 602 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 15: plastic surgery in Mexico to change her So she was. 603 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 7: Looking for a job. 604 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 15: She was trying to get a job in the hostel. 605 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 15: She was trying to get jobs anywhere around town. But 606 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 15: the only thing that she was hoping to try to 607 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,240 Speaker 15: do was maybe to get a job as a yoga instructor. 608 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 15: So when there was an ad for a yoga instructor. 609 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 15: She immediately jumped at this. 610 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 3: A new country, a new nose, and a new job, 611 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,959 Speaker 3: all pieces of a puzzle that leads to the international 612 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 3: arrest of her murderer. 613 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 2: The fads shock moved to hount down the glam yoga 614 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 2: guru in her love Rivals murder. 615 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,959 Speaker 4: What do they do? They got a. 616 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 2: Female operative to go undercover and go into the yoga 617 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 2: scene in Costa Rica looking for a needle in a haystack. 618 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 2: After an American businessman says he's seen Caitlin Armstrong but 619 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 2: she quote looked different that he had met her in 620 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 2: a yoga studio. So they send this female operative. I 621 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 2: got to hand it to him or Brandt. They made 622 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 2: good after the big booboo of a local law enforcement 623 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 2: letting her slip through their fingers. After her botox warrant 624 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 2: and a murder, they get a female operative to go 625 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 2: undercover all around Costa Rica until finally she sees a 626 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 2: woman that kind of resembles Caitlin Armstrong. It was pretty 627 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 2: smart herv Then they placed a yoga. 628 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 16: Ad uh Nancy tricky us Marshalls thinking outside the box, 629 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 16: and they used a an investigative tool ruse or lure, 630 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 16: whatever you want to call it, it's very common technique 631 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 16: and to work. 632 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 2: Doctor Jeff Kelshewski joining US forensics psychologist and author of 633 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 2: Dark Sides, Doctor Jeff. 634 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 4: The way she managed to talk her. 635 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 2: Way out of that police interview, the way she managed 636 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 2: to fenangle her sister's passport and go all around the country, 637 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 2: get plastic surgery in Costa Rica, and hide out under 638 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 2: an assumed name. 639 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 4: But she answered an ad for a yoga teacher. 640 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 10: Right, I mean, the termine narcissism came up. And how 641 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 10: many times on these programs that we talked about killers 642 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,919 Speaker 10: being tripped up by their own narcissism. She probably thought 643 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 10: she got away with it. She thought she took all 644 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 10: the right steps, and she thought she was in the clear, 645 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 10: and then she opened herself up and made herself more vulnerable. 646 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 10: And kudos to law enforcement. You know, one important rule 647 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 10: is to know yourself respect well. The obviously knew a 648 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 10: lot about her, and they knew what kind of bait 649 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 10: could pull her out from the shadows and make her 650 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 10: vulnerable and expose herself where they could apprehend her. 651 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 2: You know, doctor Jeff, you would think someone that had 652 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 2: been this wily like her, like R. J. McLeod would 653 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 2: recognize a trap like an ad for a yoga teacher. 654 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 2: You want a yoga teacher, go to the yoga studio. 655 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 2: It's one walk away. How many are there in Costa Rica? 656 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 4: So long story short, they both fail. 657 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,879 Speaker 2: For it, and I believe it's arrogance, as you say, narcissism. 658 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 10: It's a false confidence. I'm so wonderful, I'm so tricky, 659 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 10: I'm so good at what I just did. I'm in 660 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 10: the clear. A false confidence that came back to bite her. 661 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 2: I mean, Josephine Winsel, all those years you were waiting 662 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 2: for the US marshals to find your daughter's killer. 663 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 4: How did that feel to you? 664 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 7: It was cruciating and it was very frustrating, especially when 665 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 7: COVID happened, and I knew that even if we got 666 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 7: a tip, then nobody's going to go over there to 667 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 7: look for them. It was very frustrating. I did a 668 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 7: lot of you know, in between time I searching for him, 669 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 7: I was writing a lot to a Congress, the White House. 670 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 7: I was just trying to shake them up in DC 671 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 7: to like do something here. And then it got to 672 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 7: the point where we were getting a lot of tips 673 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 7: in and the embassy couldn't respond, so they were like, 674 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 7: We're not going to respond to all of your tips. 675 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 7: So then it became even more frustrating, and I'm like, 676 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 7: why am I wasting all my time in front of 677 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 7: the computer searching it? Then I going to check the 678 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 7: gifts out and so it was very, very frustrating. But 679 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,800 Speaker 7: I had to credit the marshals because they were patient, 680 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 7: they were consistent, and they were trying everything they could 681 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 7: to respond to all my tips considering they were not 682 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 7: in that country, so it was a very difficult process. 683 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 2: In case you're wondering what happens after Kaitlin Armstrong is 684 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 2: apprehended in Costa Rica and extradited. 685 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: Home, well. 686 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 4: Ken a Leopard ever changed their spots listen. 687 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 3: Kaitlyn Armstrong has been locked up in the Travis County 688 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 3: Correction Complex since she was brought back from Costa Rica, 689 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 3: But she didn't just sit in her sell and gain weight. 690 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 3: Kaitlin Armstrong decided to take advantage of the time she 691 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,240 Speaker 3: had in county by working out a lot. Just weeks 692 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 3: before her trial was set to start, Armstrong claimed to 693 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 3: have an injury and she was allowed to go to 694 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 3: an outside medical appointment Armstrong requested that leg restraints not 695 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 3: be used on her, and that was granted. Armstrong was 696 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 3: escorted to her appointment by two deputies, and when the 697 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 3: office visit was over, as she was headed back to 698 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 3: the car to go back to jail, Kaitlin Armstrong took 699 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 3: off running. The deputies gave chase. 700 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 2: That's right, Kaitlin Armstrong actually running. She faked a doctor's 701 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 2: appointment and makes an escape attempt. 702 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 4: Some things never change. 703 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 2: Caitlin Armstrong convicted in the murder of Mariah and. 704 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 4: I advise whatever CI is holding her now keep a 705 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 4: watch on her. 706 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 2: Nancy Grace signing off, goodbye friend.