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Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast. The I said, Hey, let's go

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Speaker 1: in on audition as Dave Lapham joins me to discuss

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Speaker 1: the end of the pre training camp practice schedule and

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Speaker 1: answer the ask lap questions that you submitted on Twitter. Plus,

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Speaker 1: we'll hear from Frank Pollack on the return of Jonah

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Speaker 1: Williams and I'll talk to undrafted rookie wide receiver Shdrick Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Now get to football. As you undoubtedly know by now,

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Speaker 1: Jonah Williams is back. He reported on time for the

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Speaker 1: mandatory mini camp and explained why he requested a trade

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Speaker 1: after the Bengals signed to Orlando Brown Junior as a

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Speaker 1: free agent. The former first round draft pick, who became

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Speaker 1: get a heads up from the team before the Brown

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Speaker 1: signing became public, but Jonah's come to grips with it

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Speaker 2: There's sixty four tackle spots in the league. To have

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Speaker 2: any of them is a crazy, amazing opportunity. I'm super grateful,

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Speaker 2: you know, for the chance. So, you know, playing display

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Speaker 2: Matt right tackle, I'm fired up to do it. Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm working my knee. I think I'm gonna be

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Speaker 2: was never the issue. I know, that's kind of how

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Speaker 2: like a personal thing. I love all my teammates, love

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Speaker 2: couple of years have just been amazing, you know, for

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Speaker 2: points I just wanted to clear up about it. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm back now, mandatory mini cam. I'm gonna be back

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Speaker 2: day one to training cam. Before day one a training camp,

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent, ready to grind, ready to roll, and

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Speaker 1: You played the right side as a freshman at Alabama,

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Speaker 1: do you anticipate that this should be a relatively smooth

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna make it one. Whether it is or is,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna make it one. I'm gonna be out there

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Speaker 2: it's just you know, I played left tackle for six

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Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm a dad, and I'm gonna take

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Speaker 3: That's all.

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Speaker 2: That's my plan for the next you know, however long,

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Speaker 1: Jonah dislocated his kneecap in the fifth game of the

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Speaker 3: Jonah's a pro.

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Speaker 4: He's been busting his ass out there in California.

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Speaker 4: He looks fantastic and he's a He's a good, solid

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Speaker 4: So I know he's going to do what it takes

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Speaker 3: He looks good.

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Speaker 4: He's still trying to sharpen his story, if you will,

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Speaker 4: He's been studying his ass off as well, and I'm

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Speaker 1: Orlando Brown's track record speaks for itself. But I've been

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Speaker 1: Have Elsie's here rehabbing. It looked like he was almost

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Speaker 3: He's a fun guy to coach.

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Speaker 4: He is strong, he is nasty, and he's doing a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, our depth has really improved since the first time

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Speaker 3: So it's that's been great. You need it in this league.

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Speaker 3: Been nice that we're able to improve.

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Speaker 4: The room is getting elevated, and that's what you want

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Speaker 1: Bengals app. The Bengals drafted two wide receivers this year.

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Speaker 1: You also had Cam Newton throwing to you at your

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Speaker 5: So that was a great experience too.

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Speaker 1: We're visiting with Srederick Jackson. Tell me about being here

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Speaker 5: Gaun It's going really smooth. The transition has been great.

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Speaker 6: The guys are great in the locker room, the coaches

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Speaker 1: Are you like a sponge watching Jamaar t Tyler, etc.

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Speaker 5: But other than that, you know, keep it, keep it normal.

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Speaker 1: I like the way you think, appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: It's obviously going to be tough for Schderick to make

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Speaker 1: That four to is legit.

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Speaker 8: He's gonna have a say on this roster, and he's

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Speaker 9: I do you know, if you've played for which he has,

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Speaker 9: And when you look at all the guys like you

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Speaker 1: he was not here with the team, and his answer

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Speaker 1: was profound. He spoke of the true love that you

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Speaker 1: have for your teammates. Is this team unusual in that respect?

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Speaker 9: I think it's special. And I mean I was looking

441
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Speaker 9: at Joe as he was saying it, and I could

442
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Speaker 9: almost feel my eyes filling up. And I can almost

443
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Speaker 9: sense his eyes were starting to fill up a little bit.

444
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Speaker 9: I mean, as a former player, I could just totally

445
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 9: relate to what he was talking about. You know that,

446
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 9: and people like, oh, that's cornball. You know, you don't

447
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 9: love you know, people like it. It's because they're a team.

448
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Speaker 3: You know what.

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Speaker 9: Man, It's like it's not like you love your wife

450
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 9: or your son or your daughter or whatever. But it's

451
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 9: like the next thing. It's the next level. It's like

452
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Speaker 9: as close as you can get to, you know, not family,

453
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 9: but the next tier. You know, it's like it's special.

454
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Speaker 9: It's one of a kind of and I think part

455
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Speaker 9: of it. I've used the analogy. And I don't mean

456
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Speaker 9: to disrespect the military. I mean, God, there's no comparison

457
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Speaker 9: between playing football and defending your country. Believe me, I

458
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 9: understand that fully. But it's like you're so co dependent.

459
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Speaker 9: On a much smaller scale, It's like, I'm no good

460
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Speaker 9: if this guy doesn't have my back, you know. I mean,

461
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Speaker 9: I might play a great game not make any mistake.

462
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Speaker 9: I get to make sure my guy is trying to

463
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Speaker 9: do the same thing. All that. You know, you're so

464
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Speaker 9: dependent on other people for your existence in the military survival,

465
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Speaker 9: and it's not obviously to that extent, but your future

466
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Speaker 9: wins and losses. You know, how long you might play

467
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Speaker 9: in the league. A lot of things are codependent with

468
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 9: guys around you and being in the right environment, the

469
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Speaker 9: right combination of players. There's a lot of luck involved.

470
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Speaker 9: But man, when you find it and you get there,

471
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Speaker 9: you don't want to lose it. You want to keep

472
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Speaker 9: it at all costs.

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Speaker 1: So it's been a while since we have taken ask

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Speaker 1: lap questions. So I pointed the lap signal into the

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati sky, and here's what we got. Question number one

476
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Speaker 1: comes from Marty. Is Drew Sample someone that could surprise

477
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Speaker 1: us with a decent season reception wise or is he

478
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Speaker 1: strictly a blocking tight end?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Drew Sample has been amazing in his recovery. He's

480
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Speaker 9: ahead of schedule, you know, You and I have both

481
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,959
Speaker 9: watched him go out there and try to do everything

482
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Speaker 9: on a full speed basis for quite a while and

483
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Speaker 9: maybe had a little hitching to get along and so doing,

484
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Speaker 9: but he was bound and determined to get out there

485
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Speaker 9: and not fall behind, and he wanted to be in

486
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Speaker 9: tune and in step with everything that they were doing offensively.

487
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Speaker 9: It's important to this guy, I mean playing in the

488
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Speaker 9: National Football League, specifically playing for the Cincinnati Bengals with

489
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Speaker 9: Joe Borrow at quarterback and everything that they got going

490
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Speaker 9: on with this football team. He's the kind of guy

491
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Speaker 9: that feels a tremendous amount of loyalty to the franchise

492
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Speaker 9: they give him the opportunity drafting him in the second

493
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Speaker 9: round out of college. He thinks the world of his position, coach,

494
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Speaker 9: thinks the world of the head coach, thinks the world

495
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Speaker 9: of his teammates. Yeah, it would not shock me if

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Speaker 9: Drew Sample had a significantly sound bounce back year, you know,

497
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Speaker 9: in terms of complete tight end. I'm not saying go

498
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Speaker 9: out and catch seventy balls, you know, but I'm saying

499
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Speaker 9: a guy that you know, when he's in the two

500
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Speaker 9: tight end package, we don't need to worry about him.

501
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Speaker 9: He's just a third tackle.

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Speaker 7: You know.

503
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Speaker 9: It's like Earth Smith Jr. To make sure we tilt

504
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Speaker 9: our coverage here. I mean he could, he could, you know,

505
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Speaker 9: be a guy that sneaks up on people and it

506
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Speaker 9: would be well deserved, that's for sure.

507
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Speaker 1: He had forty catches in Joe Burrow's rookie years, so

508
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Speaker 1: there is a bit of a track record there. But

509
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Speaker 1: his targets will depend on IRV Smith Junior. If Irv

510
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Speaker 1: Smith Junior is healthy, he's going to project a fifty

511
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Speaker 1: to sixty catches something like that, similar to Hayden Hurst

512
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Speaker 1: and cj Uzama. And if that's the case, then there

513
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Speaker 1: are only so many balls to go around, and Andrew

514
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Speaker 1: Sample will not be targeted all that often.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely. And the thing, the great thing, or one of

516
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Speaker 9: the great things about Drew Sample, He'll be fine with that.

517
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Speaker 9: He's a total team guy. You know, it's not about

518
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Speaker 9: Drew Sample. It's about the tight end position, and it's

519
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Speaker 9: about the Cincinnati Bengals offense, and it's about the Cincinnati

520
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 9: Bengals football team winning football games. And you know, you

521
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Speaker 9: can't have enough of those of those kind of guys

522
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Speaker 9: for sure. But like you said, Irv Smith junior. He's

523
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Speaker 9: he's a pretty good athlete, and he runs good routes.

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Speaker 9: He gets in and out of his cuts. He's very

525
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Speaker 9: very fluid with there's movements. He's a very smooth operator.

526
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Speaker 9: They could have a pretty good one two punch at

527
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Speaker 9: that tight end position.

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Speaker 1: The next question comes from Jason. How did DJ Turner

529
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Speaker 1: and Jordan Battle look during mini camp? The second and

530
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Speaker 1: third round draft picks.

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Speaker 9: Jordan Battle really impressed me with his not only his

532
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Speaker 9: physical ability, and that's hard to tell because you know

533
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Speaker 9: they don't have shoulder pads on and at the safety position,

534
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Speaker 9: you know that's where you've got to come downhill and

535
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Speaker 9: dislodge people and all that.

536
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Speaker 7: Sort of thing. But is he where he's supposed to

537
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Speaker 7: be when he's supposed to be there? Yes?

538
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Speaker 9: Does he understand the scheme and the responsibility within that

539
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Speaker 9: scheme that lou Anerilmo was asking him to do.

540
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Speaker 7: Yes?

541
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Speaker 9: Does he recognize things offensively and communicate with his teammates

542
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Speaker 9: like a veteran already? Yes, that's what you and I

543
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 9: talked about it more than once as we were watching

544
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Speaker 9: him out on the football. If you look at this guy,

545
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Speaker 9: you know, reading it, communicating it to his corners. It's like, man,

546
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Speaker 9: he looks like he's very very comfort well, he's a

547
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 9: quick processor. He understands what lou Ann Rumo's installing very

548
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 9: very quickly assimilates it. Can take it from the board

549
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 9: to the field. A lot of guys can do a

550
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 9: great job. And you know, rewriting it on the board,

551
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 9: they get on the field and all of a sudden,

552
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 9: it's one hundred miles an hour. It's the auto bond

553
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 9: and it's like, eh, doesn't translate. His translates big time

554
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 9: and it translated right away. So that's the thing that

555
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 9: I'm very impressed with about him. He's ready to go.

556
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 9: I mean he's he's up to speed. It's not like

557
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Speaker 9: waiting for Jordan Battle to catch up. He's like, what

558
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 9: do you got from me? Now, coach? I'm ready, you

559
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 9: know I'm ready. I'm ready to roll. What's the adjustment

560
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 9: to this? And what's the wrinkle on that? What's the

561
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 9: tweak here? He's he's I think he's very very impressive turner.

562
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Speaker 9: To me, he's a blur. He's fast and he can

563
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 9: flip his hips and run. I want to see him

564
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 9: a little utilize has to speed a little bit more

565
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 9: recognizing and having the confidence to break on the route,

566
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 9: break on the ball. That's what Jordan Battle's doing. He's

567
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 9: so sure he's almost there before it happens. Turner's not

568
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 9: quite there in that part of it yet. But when

569
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Speaker 9: he gets up on a receiver's hip and he has

570
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Speaker 9: to flip his hips and run with him, no problem.

571
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Speaker 9: But you know a route like where he has to

572
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 9: slam on the brakes and then decide to break on

573
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 9: the ball, come back and get after it. Little hesitant

574
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 9: there from what I've seen. And it's not like it

575
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 9: can't you know, it can't be corrected or improved upon

576
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 9: or whatever. But and he's got potential. He's a player.

577
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Speaker 9: They're not going to run by you. And that's the

578
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 9: biggest fear, as Oh Jesus every time he's out there

579
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 9: throwing over said, that's not going to happen. So it's

580
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 9: much easier to make adjustments to things in front of

581
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Speaker 9: you than saying, Okay, you got to get faster and

582
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 9: or you have to have a better your hips have

583
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 9: to be more fluid. You gotta flip your hips on

584
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Speaker 9: and get get out of that and run down the

585
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 9: football field. He can do that and that's the primary

586
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 9: requisite I think to being able to play corner in

587
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 9: the NFL.

588
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: I'll throw something else in that. I like about Jordan Battle.

589
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: He is thick in all the right places. I mean,

590
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: as a safety, you've got high speed collisions in the secondary,

591
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: you've got to take on running backs who already have

592
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: a head of steam built up. It's big in the

593
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: lower body, big on the back side. He looks like

594
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Speaker 1: a guy who's going to be able to weather the

595
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: violent hits that you take at the safety position.

596
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 9: Right, And I think he's going to be a thumper.

597
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,479
Speaker 9: I think he'll be the hitter and not the hit

598
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 9: he you know, he's the guy that's going to deliver

599
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 9: the punishment. I agree with you, Dan, I think, and

600
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 9: he's not going to be the least bit hesitant to

601
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 9: do it. Like we talked about before, Saban talked about

602
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 9: this guy like, you know, he's the best football player

603
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 9: on the defensive side of the ball that he's had.

604
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 9: And when you have Saban being that effusive in his praise,

605
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 9: you've done something right. You've done a bunch of things right.

606
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 9: You've checked a lot of boxes for coach Saban.

607
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Speaker 7: There's no question.

608
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Speaker 1: Here's an interesting question from Wyatt. Did you consider the

609
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: white uniforms in the snowy playoff game against Buffalo to

610
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: be an unfair advantage? I'm going to editorialize here and

611
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: even remove the word unfair. Was it even an advantage

612
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: white unis in a snowy game?

613
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Speaker 9: No, I don't think so, I really don't. I really don't.

614
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 9: I mean to me, it's like, okay, well, what would

615
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 9: the advantage for the ball's dark on a white background?

616
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 9: The ball shows up that it's easier to follow the ball.

617
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 9: Where is the ball? Where's he holding the ball? I'm

618
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 9: just trying to think of the advantage. You mean, It's

619
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 9: like the Bengals with the invisible men, and all of

620
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 9: a sudden they appear out of the snow because of

621
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Speaker 9: the white uniforms, and they're blasting the Buffalo Bills. It's

622
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Speaker 9: like they disappeared.

623
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Speaker 7: Now.

624
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Speaker 9: I think we're I think we're going into a little

625
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 9: bit of a stretch there, I do think, and we

626
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 9: commented about it right away. Dan and I remember talking

627
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 9: about it multiple times during the course of the game.

628
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Speaker 9: The Bengals traction they were on the feet and the

629
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 9: Buffalo Bills with slip sliding away. You know, and they

630
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 9: they're the team that's been in the snow. It's their field.

631
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 9: I was I was surprised that from a footing standpoint,

632
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 9: the Bengals seemed to handle it a little bit better.

633
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 9: That's the thing that struck me during the course of

634
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 9: the game, and when I thought about the game in retrospect,

635
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 9: I thought that was a big deal. I thought that,

636
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 9: for whatever reason, the traction differential was the was the

637
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 9: big difference in net football game.

638
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: Kudos to Adam and everybody in the Bengals equipment room

639
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: for getting the Bengals in the right shoes. Bengals Bubbs

640
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: has the next question, where the heck does Cody Ford

641
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: fit on this offensive line?

642
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, he's a position versatility. He's played tackling guard, so

643
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 9: you know that's that's a plus for him. I think

644
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 9: he is going to be in the free for all

645
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 9: at right tackle. I think he wants to throw his

646
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 9: hat in the ring there. Collins, I mean, you don't

647
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 9: know when he's going to be available. Elsie will not

648
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 9: be there from Jump Street. I think Jonah Williams will

649
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 9: be there from Jump Street. Jackson Carmen is going to

650
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 9: get a shot at that at that right tackle position,

651
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 9: and I think I think Cody Ford will as well.

652
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 9: I think that's where he'll compete. And then his ability

653
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Speaker 9: to kick inside and play either guard and maybe be

654
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 9: able to play either tackle. Again, like we talked about depth,

655
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Speaker 9: not only the starters, but depth in the in the

656
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 9: backups in the offensive line, and if you're a depth

657
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 9: player in the offensive line, you have to be able

658
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 9: to play more than one position. He has shown that

659
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 9: he can play more than one position at the NFL level,

660
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Speaker 9: So he's got he's got a definitely shot to be

661
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Speaker 9: a factor with the old line.

662
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Speaker 1: We started out talking about Jonah Williams. Here's a question

663
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Speaker 1: from Michael. What's the difference between left tackle and right

664
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Speaker 1: tackle and would Jonah find it easier to play left

665
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: guard if Collins is healthy and could play right tackle.

666
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Speaker 9: Yeah, you would think that it would be an easier situation.

667
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 9: I can tell you from experience that kicking inside to

668
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 9: left guard after having played some left tackle, it is

669
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Speaker 9: now you're used to, you know, the left handed techniques,

670
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Speaker 9: being you're in a left handed stance and everything goes

671
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 9: along with a hand placement wise and all that sort

672
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 9: of thing and moving your feet in that left handed stance.

673
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 9: The biggest adjustment is exactly that. You know, it's like

674
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 9: you've written your entire life right handed and then you

675
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 9: try to write left handed. It's not that extreme because

676
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 9: it's not the fine muscles of you know, being able

677
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 9: to write into a short space. But I mean you

678
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 9: have to be able to move your feet. You're just

679
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,479
Speaker 9: flipping everything in your mind. So some people cannot do that.

680
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 9: Some people just are right side minded and some are

681
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 9: left side minded and can't flip flip back and forth.

682
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Speaker 9: If you can, and Jonah obviously has shown that he

683
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Speaker 9: can because he did it in college. He played the

684
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Speaker 9: right side, he played the left side. So he has

685
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 9: a history where at a very good level in the

686
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 9: SEC at a very good program Alabama, he played both

687
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 9: both tackles. Uh, and that that is the biggest thing.

688
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 9: It's just okay, and I remember when I was playing

689
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 9: all the positions that this sounds dumb, but it's like, okay,

690
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 9: remember not okay, it's left guard, all right? Make sure okay,

691
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 9: left guard is Simon, Okay, left guard. Here's the footwork is.

692
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 9: You're going through all that in your head and just

693
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 9: in the beginning, it's almost like you have to take

694
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 9: a step by step and then after you do it

695
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 9: for a while, it becomes, you know, second nature. You

696
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 9: don't have to go through the step by step process.

697
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 9: But I think he'll adjust. I think he'll adjust well.

698
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 9: And really, in the past, left tackle was all right, Well,

699
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 9: the most athletic quickness off the ball guy as a

700
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 9: pass rusher is gonna be over there at right defensive end.

701
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 9: In today's NFL, they're everywhere. They're everywhere. So it used

702
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 9: to be, you know, Anthony Munhos, that's the best pass rusher,

703
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 9: we got the best tackling football. We're racing your best

704
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 9: pass rusher. And not only that, we don't have to

705
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 9: help him to a race. He's gonna race him by himself.

706
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 9: We're gonna help all these normal guys, you know, are

707
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 9: gonna help block these other normal guys inside. So it

708
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 9: has turned into a league that they throw it so

709
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 9: much and the pass rush has become such a huge factor. Still,

710
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 9: do you have your most dominant pass rusher at right

711
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 9: defensive end. Probably, but it's not like there's a big

712
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 9: drop off, And you know, other guys are just guys.

713
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 9: They're all quality pass rushers now and usually you know,

714
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 9: it used to be. The left tackle is the athletic guy,

715
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 9: and the right tackle is maybe a guy with a little.

716
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 7: More girth, a little more power, a.

717
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 9: Little more thump. And that's not necessarily the case anymore either.

718
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 9: So I think I think Jonah he'll be fine. I mean,

719
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 9: Jonah's a smart guy that has good technique fundamentals, he's sound,

720
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 9: you know, now he's committed. And now that he's committed,

721
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 9: once a guy like that is on that page, I

722
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 9: think he's gonna play well.

723
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Speaker 1: As you describe the difference between playing the left side

724
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: and the right side, in my mind, I'm picturing like

725
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: the feet on the ground and Arthur Murray Dance studio

726
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: that shows you know, where every step has to go.

727
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: That's kind of what it sounded.

728
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 9: Like exactly it is. It's like, okay, now I'm just inverting.

729
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 9: You know, my my kickstep is now my post foot,

730
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 9: and now my old post foot is now my kickstep.

731
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,959
Speaker 9: You're just reversing everything. And you know, as I say,

732
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 9: some guys, it's it's more of a more of a task,

733
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 9: a task to get done that it is for others.

734
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Speaker 1: J E writes, how are andre Yosi Bosh and Charlie

735
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: Jones looking out there.

736
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Speaker 9: Yeah, Andre is uh has got a skill set. I

737
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 9: mean he's a he's a big, strong tight end excuse me,

738
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 9: wide receiver that runs runs really good routes, can catch

739
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 9: the football. I think he's extremely physical. I think he's

740
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 9: going to be a guy that's going to be tough

741
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 9: to tackle. Uh, it's going to be interesting to watch him.

742
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 9: Obviously being the pentathlete, he's he's got immense athletic ability

743
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 9: for a guy with his body type.

744
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: Heptathlete, don't gyp him out of two events.

745
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's right, heptathlete. My bad, my bad, heptathlete. Uh,

746
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 9: He's he's like a rare athlete. You know, he's an

747
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 9: unusual guy obviously. Charlie Jones is a guy that you know,

748
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 9: Jamar Chase was talking about as the mini camp, the

749
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 9: mandatory mini camp was winding down about how he's putting

750
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 9: different wrinkles in his routes and and running routes differently.

751
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 9: But he's got to be at a certain spot in

752
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 9: a timely fashion because Borrow's getting the ball there and

753
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 9: up to him to get there. So in his head

754
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 9: he has a clock. But like Fred Blittnikoff, is a

755
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 9: guy that back.

756
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 7: In the day.

757
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 9: This dude ran a nine yard out route nine different ways.

758
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 9: I mean, he come off the ball and it's like,

759
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 9: is he gonna run a slams, He's gonna run a post.

760
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 9: I mean he looked he was doing the same thing

761
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 9: and at the top of his route, everything was still

762
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,479
Speaker 9: in play. And that's what made Blittan a cough great.

763
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Speaker 9: And I think that's what Jamar is trying to get to.

764
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 9: It's like, Okay, well they're not going to just be

765
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Speaker 9: able to read my shoulders and hips and know that

766
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 9: I'm you know, I'm gonna run an in cut now.

767
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 9: So Charlie Jones has a lot of that. Charlie Jones,

768
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Speaker 9: I think has h has some innate ability to make

769
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Speaker 9: the same route look different. He's a really good route runner.

770
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 9: He gets in and out of his cuts, sinks his

771
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 9: hips well, and you know he's he's got good hands.

772
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 9: That's going to be the key is will he catch

773
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 9: the ball? Because he can run. He can run some

774
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 9: sub four or five He's a four to fours guy,

775
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 9: and he can run routes. I think that anybody that

776
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 9: catches over one hundred balls for over thirteen hundred yards

777
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 9: doing something right.

778
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 7: In the season.

779
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Speaker 1: JB sent a few questions. We've covered some of it.

780
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: I've picked out this question though, Will Chase Brown be

781
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: running back.

782
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 9: To that's gonna be? That's interesting. I think he's He definitely,

783
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 9: in my mind, has the physical attributes to be that way,

784
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 9: and it seems like he has the makeup. He just

785
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 9: some guys you can tell right away, this guy gets it.

786
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 9: This guy will have no problem understanding what's to be

787
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 9: asked of him, you know, and no problem delivering. His

788
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 9: track record shows success, no doubt about that. As a

789
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 9: big time ball carrier. I think it's going to depend

790
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 9: on you know, he can run the football, he can

791
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 9: catch the football. How will he block? How will he

792
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 9: handle protection? Because with number nine, I don't care who

793
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 9: the running back is. Whatever running backs on the football field,

794
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 9: when they come with an all out blitz and that

795
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 9: running back's responsible for somebody, you got to make sure

796
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 9: you execute your assignment and that guy has not hit

797
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 9: Joe Burrow. That is a big, big requirement and prerequisite.

798
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: There's no doubt from Bengals and Bruce. With l Collins

799
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: seemingly ahead of schedule, the Bengals most likely to put

800
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Speaker 1: him on the pup list for six weeks and then

801
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: if he's ready for week one, would they pay the

802
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 1: right tackle spot twenty two point five million to keep

803
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: him and Jonah Williams.

804
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Speaker 9: That's that's what they're mulling over as we speak. I

805
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 9: mean that that's some of the things they're thinking about.

806
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 9: I mean he In fact, I was just talking with

807
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 9: him today, Dan ironically out on the practice field and

808
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 9: Anthony Munoz and I were asking him about because he's

809
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 9: moving pretty well, and I said, to you, do you

810
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 9: consider you're still ahead of schedule? And he said I do,

811
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 9: And I said, well, you know, my advice is don't

812
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 9: do too much too quickly. You don't want to have

813
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 9: a setback. You don't want to have a you know,

814
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 9: a deal where all of a sudden, man, it was

815
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 9: going so well, and now you know, I have to

816
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 9: go through the mental anguish of I'm back where I

817
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 9: was like a month and a half two months ago.

818
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 7: You don't want to do that. And he's like, no, no,

819
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 7: I get that.

820
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 9: So it is obviously he's not going to be ready

821
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 9: for training camp. What at what point in the regular

822
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 9: season will look like he'll be ready? And you know,

823
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 9: they're so far away from being able to determine that

824
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 9: right now. But these are the things that you have

825
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 9: to think about. These are the things that you have

826
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,959
Speaker 9: to ponder in your mind. And you know, will would

827
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 9: he be able to return before week six? How far

828
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 9: before week six? You know, would you would you make

829
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 9: that move put him on the pub list? You know,

830
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 9: would you say, geez, I think he might be ready

831
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 9: after week two. You know, he may be ready to go,

832
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 9: you know, in the third game. Those are those those

833
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 9: are things to be determined, I guess.

834
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: I also don't think that twenty two point five million

835
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: dollar figure is accurate. Joana is going to make twelve plus,

836
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: but a lot of Elsie's money was tied into playing time, starts,

837
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: things like that. So I don't think he's Yeah, I

838
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: don't think he's getting ten if he's not the starting

839
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: right tackle. I think his situation depends partly on who

840
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: else they're able to sign. I mean, you don't want

841
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: to let the guy go until you have to. You

842
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: never know who might get hurt. I mean, knock on wood.

843
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: But if tackles were to go down, it's a nice

844
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: luxury to have a really solid player in Lael Collins.

845
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: But if Burrow signs, if to Higgins signs, if Logan

846
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: Wilson signs, then the reality kicks in where somebody might

847
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: have to go and he would logic be a candidate.

848
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: If he's not the starting right tackle.

849
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 9: Right then then you're going from you know, the luxury

850
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 9: department store to Walmart, you know, I mean it's like

851
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 9: the budget changes. So yeah, it's there's there's always it's

852
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 9: never just cut and dried one thing. There's always a

853
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 9: bunch of you know, extraneous factors that are big time

854
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 9: variables that are going to control your future.

855
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: Here's a question from Willie, who aren't we talking about enough?

856
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 1: Is there a key player that fans should be paying

857
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: more attention to. We talk quite a bit about Jordan Battle.

858
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: He's kind of the first guy that comes to mind

859
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: for me, anybody else, for you.

860
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 9: You know, there's there's so many guys. You know, it's like,

861
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 9: all right, Jordan Battle at the uh at the at

862
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 9: the safety position, and you know then you uh, then

863
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 9: you think, all right, Nick Scott, how is he? How

864
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 9: is he going to pan out at the safety spot.

865
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 9: That's when when you think the biggest thing to me

866
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 9: with okay loss, you lose two starting safeties. What do

867
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 9: you have at the safety position? Well, you draft Jordan

868
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 9: Battle and you know you've got you got nick Uh,

869
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 9: You've got other players that you know are gonna are

870
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 9: gonna line up in Battle at that at that spot

871
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 9: as well. So to me, Tyson Anderson is going to

872
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 9: be interesting to watch Dax Hill. How much improvement will

873
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 9: there be with Dax Hill? One of my focuses is

874
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 9: probably going to be the safety position because that's where

875
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 9: you know that the most damage was done in free agency.

876
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 9: So how how is that gonna sort itself out?

877
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 7: You know? I think the back end, you.

878
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 9: Know, as a whole is uh is something to watch

879
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 9: because you know you've got guys recovering from from surgery

880
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 9: and injury on the on that back end, you got

881
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 9: young guys competing. Uh, you know Cheeto. How How how

882
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 9: will Cheato be from from day one at training camp? Well,

883
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 9: who knows? Would don't exactly know yet. So to me,

884
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 9: I think one of the the way everybody throws the

885
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 9: football in the National Football League, I think that back

886
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 9: end is going to be the biggest question that I have,

887
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 9: Not that they don't have players, but who are the

888
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 9: guys that are going to step up and really grab

889
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 9: hold of those roles and excel.

890
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: I'll throw another name in there for somebody that I

891
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 1: don't think people are talking about enough. Zach Carter, DJ

892
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,959
Speaker 1: Reader and DJ Hill are going to get the bulk

893
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 1: of the snaps inside, but you need somebody to rotate

894
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: in there. He looks good to me.

895
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 7: He does.

896
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 9: He does, and I think you know he's a young

897
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 9: guy that you know it's like all right from you

898
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 9: know Jeff Gunter too. He's had some injury issues, but

899
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 9: from year one to year two is when you usually

900
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 9: make your biggest jump. And Zach Carter year one to

901
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 9: year two he made big contributions. He was a definite rotation,

902
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 9: a valuable rotational player as a rookie. I agree he

903
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 9: understands what it takes now he could he could very

904
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 9: well be a guy that makes makes a bigger impact

905
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 9: on a game by game basis.

906
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 7: For lou Ana Rulan Company.

907
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: Here's an interesting question from Brent. Toward the end of

908
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: your career, what was your main reason for retirement? Was

909
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: it physical, mental, family related, or other? And did you

910
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: dream you would still be broadcasting in twenty twenty three?

911
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 9: Will I will say that the back to back season

912
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 9: at age thirty two and thirty three when I played

913
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 9: a full slate for the Bengals in nineteen eighty three,

914
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 9: took two weeks off, then went to the USFL and

915
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 9: went to training camp and played a full slate of

916
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 9: twenty plus games counting playoffs and a pre season games

917
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 9: there at the age of thirty two turned, you know,

918
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 9: working into the thirty third year.

919
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 7: That was.

920
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 9: Taxing scenario. I mean you talk about Riga Mortis man,

921
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 9: I mean I would literally come home from practice and

922
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 9: I had a very old school offensive line coach by

923
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 9: the name of Bill Austin BA, and he was the

924
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 9: line coach for Vince Lombardi when he was coaching with

925
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 9: the Washington Redskins. And BA was an old offensive lineman himself.

926
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 9: So back in those days, you didn't practice, you didn't play.

927
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 9: So it's like, yeah, you know, I know, you stiff,

928
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 9: I know you got to practice because if you don't,

929
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 9: if you missed this practice today, you ain't playing this Sunday, okay.

930
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 9: So it was unbelievable. And I remember just shuffling up

931
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,479
Speaker 9: the stairs, you know, during the week after a tough

932
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 9: practice and laying on the couch and you know, my

933
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 9: wife Lynn would serve dinner on it. Coach I was,

934
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 9: I was there for the night. I mean, I'd fall

935
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 9: asleep there and sleep there all night. I mean, it

936
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 9: was unbelievable. It was a survival getting through that season

937
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 9: and then had had an NFL off season to recover

938
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 9: a little bit and then play that final year, and

939
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 9: it was just yeah, I was, I was beating up

940
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 9: at that point. I was like, oh man, I need

941
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 9: uh oilain. So I think that was the biggest factor.

942
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 9: And then and then, did I ever think that I'd be,

943
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 9: you know, going into the year number thirty eight as

944
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 9: a as a color analyst on the Bengals radio network. No,

945
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 9: never never thought that. I mean I honestly, and we've

946
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 9: talked about this before, I really thought I might coach.

947
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 9: But going to Syracuse versus like we both did in

948
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 9: the New House School of Communications. My you know, my

949
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 9: backup plan was to do something in the broadcast world,

950
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 9: potentially print or electronic media, you know, And I knew

951
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 9: I wanted to stay with the game of football in

952
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 9: some way, shape or form. I just like I like

953
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 9: the life, I like the people, I like everything about

954
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 9: you know, football, and to be able to say, you know,

955
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 9: I was able to do it pretty much in some way,

956
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 9: shape or form. You know, almost my entire life from

957
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 9: like high school on.

958
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 7: It's crazy crazy.

959
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: Our friend James Rapine has a question. Podcaster, writer, YouTube star,

960
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: et cetera. We all saw the footage of Joe Burrow

961
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: going deep in batting practice before Cincinnati Red's game recently.

962
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: Here's this question, which of your former teammates would have

963
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 1: won a home run derby Anthony Munyos No hesitation none.

964
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 9: Anthony was a relief pitcher third basement on the USC

965
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 9: National Championship baseball team. So I mean I played in

966
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 9: a celebrity softball game with ant and it was the

967
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 9: Corps Light All Stars and we were in that game together.

968
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 9: He was playing third base and the ball's hit in

969
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 9: the hole. He cut the short stuff off, which you know,

970
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 9: third base I was supposed to do if he can,

971
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 9: and then he just opened up his hips and shoulders

972
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 9: and threw across you know, the diamond. The thing started

973
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 9: out by second base and I was playing first base.

974
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 9: I stretched, it hit me right in the stone of

975
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 9: the hand, right under the index. My index finger, middle

976
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 9: finger and thumb all went numb immediately like the umpire

977
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 9: of singles calls out and I throw the glove and

978
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 9: the ball off my hand. I'm like, oh my god.

979
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 9: He threw a seed and then the field was pretty significant.

980
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 9: But then there were woods, like a very good distance.

981
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 9: He put one in the trees. Man, I'm like, big boy,

982
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 9: here we go. Yeah, Anthony, unbelievable athlete. Unbelievable athlete. Now

983
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 9: that's not to say that, you know, there were a

984
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 9: lot of other guys that got drafted out of high school,

985
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 9: and there were there were many. I mean, it's you

986
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 9: get to this level you have you have guys that

987
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 9: very strong high school baseball players that were drafted in

988
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 9: Major League Baseball but decided to go to college to

989
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 9: play football and and maybe football and baseball and decided

990
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 9: to stay on the football path. But yeah, I mean

991
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 9: I take I take big number seventy eight. He gets

992
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 9: a he gets a full cut at one. I'm saying

993
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 9: it's going away, it's going a distance.

994
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: Our final question comes from Leona, and let me say

995
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: in advance, I like the way Leona thinks. Here's the question,

996
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: where will the organization put the Lombardi Trophy when the

997
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: Bengals hoist that baby high. And then seriously, is there

998
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: an area in the stadium where fans will be able

999
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: to view it?

1000
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 9: You know, they do have an area in the stadium

1001
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 9: where they display you know, throughout the stadium with the

1002
00:51:54,960 --> 00:52:00,439
Speaker 9: display like ASC Championship trophies and and all that sort

1003
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 9: of thing. But yeah, interesting, you want the fans to

1004
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 9: be able to experience that. I honestly think that that

1005
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 9: the AFC Championship Trophies trophies, even though it's not the

1006
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 9: big prize, it's a good consolation prize, and I think

1007
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 9: the fans would appreciate being able to being able to

1008
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 9: see it. I don't know, maybe maybe on game day

1009
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 9: you have, uh, you know, an area where you can

1010
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 9: put those kind of trophies and then put them back

1011
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 9: where they are the rest of the rest of the

1012
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 9: week and the rest of the year and so forth.

1013
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 9: But yeah, I don't see anything wrong with allowing the

1014
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 9: fans to celebrate in the in the pure joy of

1015
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 9: those trophies.

1016
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 7: There's no doubt.

1017
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: I gave this some thought. Here's how you do it.

1018
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: You take out a wall or a chunk of a

1019
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 1: wall on the back side of the Bengals Pro shop

1020
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: and so it's got bulletproof glass or some impenetrable glass

1021
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: on both sides so that as you go into the

1022
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: Pro Shop, you know you can view it from that angle.

1023
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: And then on the other side, it's exposed to the

1024
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: concourse of the stadium, so you can view it from

1025
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: that angle. So a real good opportunity to get up

1026
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: close and see the Lombardi Trophy when the Bengals earn

1027
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 1: it this coming February.

1028
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,919
Speaker 9: Good call, And boy will there'd be a logjam. There'll

1029
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 9: be a bunch of cars, a bunch of a bunch

1030
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 9: of people, the traffic back there at the Pro Shop.

1031
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 9: And it's a good, good idea, Dan, good marketing move too,

1032
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 9: because yeah, while we're here looking at South, we might

1033
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 9: as well go in.

1034
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 7: The Pro shop.

1035
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 9: What the heck, particularly if you have your kids, grandkids

1036
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 9: with you, It's like, come on, let's go, let's go

1037
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 9: inside and see where going. What can we get to

1038
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 9: commemorate the occasional looking at the Super Bowl trophy? Good call,

1039
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 9: good call all the way around, my.

1040
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: Man, another successful ask lap session. So happy that I

1041
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: pointed that lap signal into the Cincinnati sky.

1042
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 9: My pleasure, sir. I can't think of a better way

1043
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,919
Speaker 9: to spend some time than with my man Dan.

1044
00:53:58,280 --> 00:53:59,960
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1054
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