WEBVTT - 2014 NFC mega preview & Jon Beason 0:00:01.280 --> 0:00:07.160 The Around the n F What the Around the NFL 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:14.680 podcast is quicker than fast? Welcome to another edition of 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:19.440 the Around the NFL Podcast. I'm Greg Rosenthal here for 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:22.560 Dan hansis in the host chair, surrounded by a couple 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:28.639 of heroes, Mark Sessler and Chris Wesselane rolls off the tongue. 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:31.280 That new name, doesn't it. Oh yeah, if you didn't 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:34.320 notice Matt money Smith in the intro, maybe you heard 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:37.520 me say we are now the Around the NFL Podcast. 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:39.920 What do you guys think about that? Also the Around 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:43.360 the NFL blog, that's true. Well, we're not really a blog. 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:46.440 I always kind of shutter a little whenever Dan says 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.760 blog on the show, or whenever anyone says bocause it's 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:53.400 not really a blog, you know what I mean. It's 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:56.280 like a news page or something, you know, around the 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:59.240 NFL news page, because I think of a blog is 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:01.400 like chronologue, iCal order, and you know what I mean, 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:04.360 It's it's different. I like being part of a gigantic 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:08.040 corporate wheel that after you've become comfortable with a name, 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:10.039 which is sort of like the color, you know, the 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:12.560 paint your house would be painted in, you come home 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:14.760 one day and bang, Yeah, it's a different color. It's 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:17.320 a nice name, though, I can I'm one and improve 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:21.040 I prove it. Couldn't be happy. Do you approve? Chris sure, 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:25.120 I don't care. At first, I was like, I don't know, 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:27.880 because you know, a little pull behind the curtain here. 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:31.360 We're also launching a show on NFL Network called the 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:35.600 Around the NFL Show or something I don't know, Around 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:38.399 the NFL it used to be around the league. What 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:40.560 part will you be playing on this show? I'm not. 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:44.120 I'm not. I'm thinking the NFL. I'm saying we as 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.920 in the NFL media news group. I'm not on this show. 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:50.360 I wish I was. Well, the television version continues to 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:56.800 ignore our existence. Michael Sarah Hybrid. Uh, so they're they're 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:01.120 changing the name, and we heard from high above that 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:04.880 for a little corporate synergy action, around the NFL was 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:07.200 gonna be our name too. So we are in the 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:10.720 process of changing the Twitter handle, and if you happen 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:12.920 to have that around the NFL handle, we're coming for 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:15.640 you legally and we're gonna be changing it does solve 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:18.320 one sticky issue for us. I think probably at least 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:21.840 the fourth of our Twitter followers were Georgia based individuals 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:24.360 that thought that we were dealing with just Atlanta Sports, 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:28.760 which was never anything but a ts a lot of 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:32.520 native That's why I was here exactly. Well, that's how 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:34.639 we got you as a producer. We're happy to have you. 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:38.440 When I made my New Year's resolutions in January, you know, 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:41.400 pretty close to the top was more corporate synergy in 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:44.960 my life us especially. That stands out with you given 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:47.280 the option. Though I don't really I never really loved 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:49.560 a round in the league as a name. I inherited 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:51.800 that when I got here, was already here. If given 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:54.080 the choice between around the NFL and around the league 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:56.560 from day one, I like around the NFL better. There's 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:59.919 lots of leagues exactly, but no one call it eight 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.680 T n because that's around the national That doesn't make 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:05.960 any sense, just stupid. Don't say a T NFL either, 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:10.040 because that just it looks weird. At NFL, there's just 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:13.560 say the name. Is that so hard? That's it. We 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:15.760 will do what we're told to do, all right, It's 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:19.240 gonna be a big show today. We've got our NFC preview. 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:23.000 We're gonna go through each and every NFC division, give 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:26.840 you our predictions, some surprise teams making the playoffs, other 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.120 you know news. We're also gonna go back into the 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:35.680 elimination chamber and eliminate teams from the team of Around 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:38.840 the NFL discussion. I don't know that that part doesn't 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:41.000 sound as good. Team of a t L sounded better. 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:43.720 Don't you think you just call it our team? Yeah? Whatever, 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:48.200 you now, whatever our team is, We're gonna eliminate some 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:50.280 teams in the NFC. We're also going to talk to 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:54.360 Giants linebacker John Beeson at the end of the show, 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:57.120 so he's gonna give him his preview of the NFC, 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:00.320 some topics of the Giants and the pain and there's 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.280 all sorts of good stuff. But first let's get to 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:05.320 a little news we've already heard from him. T D. 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:08.119 What's going on. Guy's doing good. I'm trying to get 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:10.120 used to or a new studio and I'm trying to 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:11.960 get used to around the NFL, and myself working on 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:16.640 the graphics package because some of this podcast on video 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.360 as well, So that's pretty fancy. Yeah, I wish I 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:21.680 could show the people, but it's not approved yet. I'll 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:23.960 take a picture of it and tweet it. It's awesome. 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:26.480 We have a great looking graphic in the studio on 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:30.000 a monstrous TV right behind my head, and we've got 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:33.640 a nice new graphic. A lot of listeners noticed for 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:37.159 the podcast. It's good. It's good, It's really it's really good. 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:39.479 We mean business. All right, let's do a little news. 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:46.560 Come on, what's up? What's up with that? Come on, 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:48.839 Damna scheck that with that? Of course is Dave Damask 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:50.800 doesn't want us to do the news, I guess, but 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:55.839 we're gonna go forward. Josh Gordon, we finally learned Mark 0:04:56.080 --> 0:05:01.200 suspended for one year. His suspense in was upheld by 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:06.320 an independent arbitrator who probably not getting a Christmas card 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:09.520 from the Sessler family. Uh this year. You seemed a 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:12.839 little frustrated by how long it took for us to 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.719 find out about gordon suspension. I don't think I'm on 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:18.880 an island with that opinion. I mean it's it's I 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:23.080 understand number one, the league doesn't hand down any suspension 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:24.880 without putting a lot of work into it. We I 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:26.480 think we can assume that they're not. It's not a 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.200 knee jerk thing. But this was If you're gonna walk 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:33.600 around calling John Izick Jets general manager, the glacier. What 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:36.320 do you call Harold Henderson, the arbitrator who just sat 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:39.279 on this for weeks. The guy's just out on his 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:42.200 porch sipping nice tea. At some point, maybe I'll drop 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.400 a decision on one of the NFL's franchises that will 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:48.160 alter their season to the core. When I feel like it, 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:51.760 don't rush me, I'll pick up the phone. Maybe maybe 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:53.520 there was a lot to consider. I'm sure it was. 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:56.400 It sounds like a guy who hang out with Claude Humphrey, 0:05:56.880 --> 0:06:00.400 just out on the front porch, sip in his key limon. Yeah, 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:03.360 but you know what it is with these arbitrators, they're 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:06.560 not NFL employees. They might not know who the Cleveland 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:09.520 Browns did. I just imagine it as he has some 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:14.320 bungalow or something in in the Bay Area, and he 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.640 has a stack of files and he has to go 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:18.640 through each one and like that Josh Gordon when it 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:20.840 seems really important to us. But he's got a lot 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:23.360 of other cases to arbitrate first, and he's just going 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:26.040 through them one by one. Maybe that's what happens. Well, 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:29.720 that would be reasonable from his angle, but there were 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:31.880 other angles here. I don't know. So it's been announced, 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:35.040 so it's here at least. So do you think were 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:37.159 you getting hopeful that there was gonna be less games? 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:40.800 And do you think this offense can survive? The first 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:43.400 question there was I think some hope from a lot 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:45.360 of people that thought, if it's taking this long, there 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:49.120 must be something complex that suggests maybe something other than 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:52.760 a full year. But they ruled that way. I'm not 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:55.159 entirely surprised at that either. I think that's what we 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:58.599 initially thought would be the home run result. Here. He's 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.799 gone and a stlee even with him in the lineup. 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:04.320 There were a lot of issues with this offense, but 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:07.640 stripping him off of any team would have been a 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:11.160 huge loss. In Cleveland. You can't find another playmaker on 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:14.480 that offense besides Josh Gordon. Unless Jordan Cameron were to 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:16.880 truly repeat what he did last season, there is a 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:19.160 lot of reason for concern that Cleveland could be a 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:26.760 bottom five, bottom three office. Sahan has kind of Shanahan 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:31.240 has produced numbers, fantasy yards and whatnot everywhere he's been. 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.280 That's a true statement. Should he be given a little 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:36.840 bit of credit, I mean I mean a little bit 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:39.880 of Hey, this guy has a proven track record of 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:42.960 producing a lot of yards wherever he's been. Give him 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:47.800 credit those players he had in the past two some 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:51.080 of those early Texans teams. I guess you're right. They've 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:53.400 got a Hall of Famer and Arion Foster was the 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:55.800 best running back in the NFL for a minute or two. 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.280 And there was a stat on Gordon in terms of 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:01.080 how many yards he's had in the first two seasons 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:05.120 compared to everyone else in NFL history, and and he's 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:08.560 right there at the top. So it's it's a devastating 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:14.160 loss for the Browns. The timing was unfortunate. Um, I 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:17.120 don't know, dud. We were going to do the Browns 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:21.360 potentially as team of well, I think the shelf really 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:26.480 no way. They are currently the most boring team in 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:31.440 the NFL to me. By the way, the only two 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:34.320 receivers with more yards than Gordon in his first first 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:38.080 two years since the a f L NFL merger Randy 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:41.079 Moss and Jerry Rice. That's a good list. Titans might 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:44.520 be a little more boring if you. I would rather 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:47.480 watch like three Titans games than one Browns. All right, 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.240 we'll see. Let's move on to the other big news 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:55.000 of the week, Logan Mankins traded to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:58.680 You know, it's a big trade. And and in exchange, 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:01.560 the Patriots got back a worth round pick and they 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:05.400 got back Tim Right, who was a guy who was 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:07.760 supposedly on the roster bubble and Tampa we'll talk about 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:09.920 him in a second. You know, it's a big trade. 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:14.080 When I heard three or four different just exclamations throughout 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:16.840 our newsroom every thirty seconds or minute when they learned 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:20.280 this new just go whoa, like, hey, wow, you know 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:22.679 what I mean? Did you hear those little eruptions as 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:26.000 that was one of the ones you were, well, I 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:29.160 mean I did hear someone on Twitter correctly point out 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:31.640 that it is one of the lamest reasons the Twitter 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:37.560 ever blew up. But it's six b Yeah, exactly it did. Though, 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:41.400 you know, des Bryant, there was breaking news on him yesterday. 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:44.480 There was this Seahawks find three hundred thousand dollars. There's 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:46.679 this Josh Gordon news. You know, it's going to be 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.160 the most read story out of all of those on 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:53.760 NFL dot com. Logan Mankin's, by far would probably be 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:56.319 something like some goofy helmet some kid boar or some 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:59.920 player war and then everybody or some out of noe 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.880 are fine for something. People eat that stuff up. People 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:06.000 love trades. That people love trades. One of the most 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.400 picture of a helmet with a bunch of stuff going 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:10.800 on that will get clicks all over. One of the 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:14.160 most popular stories today, seriously is Broncos trade for Giants 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:18.000 kicker Brandon McManus. People love their trades. Do we give 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:21.360 the Patriots too much credit that we just see them 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:23.880 trade away a six time pro bowler who played well 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:25.840 last year and we just say, oh, well, it's the Patriots. 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.920 I guess it must be. Okay, is that too much credit? 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:32.200 I don't know. Asking they win every year. I mean, 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:34.679 when you gotta, you have to give him credit. Bill 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:38.040 Belichick knows what he's doing to me. You immediately think 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:44.760 of lawyer Malloy cut about this time, a long time ago, 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.319 and that was the first sign of how cold and 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:52.880 calculating the Patriots are on personnel matters. Do you think 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:57.640 of Richard Seymour getting rid of him as his salary 0:10:57.720 --> 0:10:59.719 started to outpace what they expected him to do on 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:02.400 the yield, getting rid of Rainy Moss when it shocked 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:06.040 everyone because he wanted more money and they didn't think 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:08.439 he was that player anymore. So there is plenty of 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:11.760 precedent here. When the precedent goes back twenty two years 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.920 when Belichick, who's always been you know, cold hearted is 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.760 not a bad term if you're a talent evaluator, he 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:21.520 cut Bernie Kozar when everyone that town absolutely melted, saying 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:24.280 this guy won't do anything else at the NFL level, 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:28.400 And he didn't. And he's built up so much goodwill 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:32.840 in Boston, but not enough that the sports radio still 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.520 doesn't get upset about stuff like this. They still get upset, 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:39.439 which seems silly to me. We found out from Ian Rappaport, 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.920 our NFL media insider, of course, that Logan Meggants was 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:45.560 asked to take a pay cup before they trade him. 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:48.319 He was not interested in doing that. They clearly just 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.920 did not see him as an elite talent. I think 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:54.360 Marcus Cannon, who was on the bench for them, is 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.599 a factor in this that they think he can be 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:58.400 a really good starter. Maybe it's not going to be 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:01.680 a huge drop off, and I don't think they planned 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:04.880 to have Mankins on the roster next year at that salary, 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:07.880 so they thought, instead of cutting him after the season, 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:10.439 let's get an interesting tight end in a in a 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:13.120 mid round draft pick for him. Unless you're a former 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:17.520 offensive lineman or a former coach, if you hear anyone 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:21.000 analyzing this trade and saying the Patriots were wrong, I mean, 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.600 just ignore him. How could you possibly know how good 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:25.920 logan Mankons is right now? Well, I know that he 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:28.560 used to be. He just used to be the rare 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:31.280 guard that would do a lot of things you would 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:33.640 actually notice in the running game, especially, you would just 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.040 be devastating and be fun to watch. You didn't see 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:37.440 that quite as much. And you saw him give up 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:39.600 more sacks last year, for sure. I mean you could 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:42.680 see him give up seven eight nine sacks. He struggled 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:44.960 a little bit in past protection. He's known still as 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:47.000 a good run blocker, and the Bucks are desperate. They 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:49.439 needed some line help better than rich Incognito. Well, I 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:51.640 don't think the Bucks fleeced. I mean, no one got 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:54.400 fleeced here necessarily. But I would say that the Patriots 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:58.000 are a successful organization, pointing to the deals West talked about, 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:01.959 because they trade players right for they decline, you get 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:06.840 some value. Bad organizations trade players after the decline is evident, 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:08.719 and then they get fleeced and deals. How about the 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:12.839 gamesmanship by the Bucks on this one, bringing Richie incognito 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:14.800 just to get the Patriots to pull the trigger on 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:16.719 the trade. I like that. I don't know if that's 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:20.000 what happened, That's what I'm going with. Ian said that 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:24.439 the Bucks initially called looking for one of the backup 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:27.360 guards on New England, looking for some depth, and the 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.079 Patriots were kind of like, how about that Tim Wright guy? 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.120 And then in the Bucks, well how about Logan Bankings? 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:35.000 And then it gets going. I like that's how trade 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:37.280 should happen. Yeah, that's that's how the sausage gets made. 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:39.199 Do we think Tim writes it much of a factor here? 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:41.959 I think he can be. He'll obviously have to learn 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:45.240 the offense. He has very intriguing wide receiver skills for 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:48.160 a tight end. He's not This has nothing to do 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:51.040 with Gronkowski and being ready for week one. Everyone keeps 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:54.360 bringing that up. They don't play the same position. Yeah, 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:56.839 that doesn't matter. He plays another pair of hands and 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.839 they're thin at that right. He plays the move to 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:01.800 in the air in her named is rule. He's six 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:04.199 four two twenty. He's built like Julio Jones, not like 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.840 Rob Rob Gronkowski. Yeah, he's closer and probably what they'll 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:10.760 ask him to do to Julian Edelman, even though they're 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:14.360 obviously completely different body types and players. But ultimately, this 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:18.400 guy's a slot receiver. They're gonna they're gonna move him around. 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.240 He was playing wide out a lot for the for 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:25.120 the Bucks, weren't there weren't they talking about potentially using 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:28.600 La Fell as an Aaron Hernandez type. This is a 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:31.200 better fit, it seems. Yeah, And and he and Lo 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:34.680 Fell aren't that different in body type. They're they're gonna 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:38.480 have a lot of receivers that have six for ninety 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:41.240 one game and then go off the map for two more. 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:46.480 Because between Avendola Tompkins, now I'd throw right into that mix. 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:48.880 Edelman is probably the only one that's going to be 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:53.120 consistently a guy that you get targeted. Here's some fantasy 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.600 advice that we didn't throw out on our last fantasy 0:14:55.600 --> 0:15:01.560 football stravaganza. On this offense, ignore everyone but Edelman, Brady 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:06.880 and Verne Fanzyzy football Fantasy. You can take your flyers 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:10.080 on Cambrell, Tompkins, Ridley might frustrate you a little bit, 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:13.440 but basically, Verene Edelman Gronk TD, where why can't we 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:15.840 get some backup singers or something with that you know 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:20.480 in here? You old old producer kid, which that was 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.920 she had? That's right, Remember she would make some songs 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:26.360 or something that wasn't one of those tracks. I remember. 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.440 I'm just saying production value. We've got videos coming in here, 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:33.960 wouldn't it be cool? I don't want to get you excited, Greg, 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:36.480 but I mentioned this on the last show. I still 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:39.680 this is. I see New England as a sneaky playoff 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:43.080 type entry, and well, I didn't want to kind of 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:45.440 an upstart. I didn't want to compliment the Patriots in 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:49.920 all their previous trades and stuff. Will be the first 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:56.280 sessler that actually happens, all right, although Aaron Rodgers injury, Yeah, 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:58.120 that was you kind of made. It's like the only 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.440 one that happened. You made your reputation on. All right, 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:02.200 that's enough news because we want to get to our 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:07.640 NFC preview and uh, without further ado, I think let's 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:11.760 just get into it. Let's start with the NFC East 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:16.240 and Chris, you've been waging an internal war over the 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:21.240 last two weeks Washington Redskins Philadelphia Eagles. You had one 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:24.440 team in front at first, Now you're leading another way. 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:29.200 Why all the confusion? There is still an internal struggle here. 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:33.760 There's a duality in me. I uh, you know, I've 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.480 been thinking Redskins all off season because I thought r 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.280 G three was returning to two thousand twelve form. There's 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:42.240 no reason why he should not. There is a reason 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:45.400 that he's not a pocket passer yet, and his struggles 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:48.200 in the preseason have really concerned me, And just on 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:51.200 a visceral level, it just disturbs the hell out of 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:54.440 me that he doesn't know how to do a baseball slide. Yeah. 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:56.440 I can't get over that. And if you want to 0:16:56.480 --> 0:17:01.360 avoid an injury, look, I mean, honestly, this six year 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:04.480 olds can do baseball slides. This is just stubbornness. So 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:08.359 that bothers me. But I guess I'm torn because I 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:11.240 know the Eagles have been lucky. They got lucky on injuries, 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:14.440 third downs, turnovers last year. Those things tend to even 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:17.000 out the next year. But at the end of the day, 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:19.200 are you taking Chip Kelly, are you taking Jake Gruden? 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:23.439 I'm taking Chip Gilly I'll take I'll take the one 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:25.720 who is a genius in the conversation. Here's an idea 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:29.080 about that sliding, which also got Cam Newton injured because 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:31.080 he doesn't know how to slide either. There are at 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:34.080 least three Vick, Newton and Griffin who cannot slide. Jake 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:37.159 Locker takes a lot of unnecessary hits too, although he 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:39.359 should be able to slide because he was a baseball player, 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:42.359 but he's just kind of reckless. Make that an event 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:47.680 at the combine quarterback quarterback slide thirty yards and then 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.359 down or twenty. You know, it would be ten best 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:53.280 idea since yesterday's get rid of the Offensive Player of 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:55.680 the Year. The awards, Oh yeah, we'll get into that 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:58.320 on Friday. We're gonna do our awards. Show what we 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:00.399 can talk about the most useless of award in the 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:05.359 history of sports. Uh, you're taking the Eagles mark, who 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:08.399 are you taking in second place in the NF and 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:11.880 that division? Don't think that really matters? Well, you still 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:14.440 have to put the teams in order and some some 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:16.720 sort of or before we put the Redskins to bed. 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:19.200 But we're happening in bed. We can keep talking. I 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:25.040 believe that their defense is significantly better. Jason Hatcher. We've 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:27.320 killed that signing because he started two years old in 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:29.280 the game, a lot of money up front. He looked great. 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:33.199 He put a how did you phrase the clown suit thing? 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:36.680 Mark an ornately crafted clown suit. He put it or 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:39.439 late or night and they crafted clown suit on Pro 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:42.960 Bowl guard Marshal Yanda last week bull rushed him right 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:47.520 back into Flacco. He looks good. Keenan Robinson is an 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:51.560 upgrade on on um London Fletcher, last year's version of 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:55.440 London Fletcher. I think they're upgraded on defense altogether. The 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:58.960 problem is they didn't upgrade their defensive coordinator. I he 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:01.440 loved Jim hands Well, I think he's fine, But why 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:04.760 why does he keep that job year after year? They 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:08.000 do look pretty good on paper. He's friends with Grood 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:12.560 and I guess so that's it. Well, it's not a meritocracy. 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:14.240 It's not based on Oh you know what, you dialed 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:18.040 up one of the most horrid, most offensive situations ever 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:21.119 on defense last season, So you know what, it's a 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:23.439 good idea to keep you around. Are you guys excited 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:27.639 for the Keenan Robinson era. Yeah, I mean he seems 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:30.600 like a little flashy, flashy player there that I mean, 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:32.760 they could rush the past there. Look, London Fletcher hit 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:34.760 a great borderline Hall of Fame career, but he was 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:39.200 a liability list. He's Griffin could play mediocre and have 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:42.200 okay numbers. That's the thing. I think, there's so many 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:47.119 weapons there that he could be somewhat disappointed, disappointing, but 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:50.800 it will be masked by Pierre Garsone taking it a 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:54.000 ten yard dump off pass seventy yards and de Sean 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:56.800 Jackson doing the same thing, and Jordan Reid messing up 0:19:56.840 --> 0:20:00.320 your mind. I don't know, have you come up with 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:02.200 who your second place team was? But yeah, well no, 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:04.520 i'd I'd come up with it last week, and it's 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:08.080 it's Washington, just based on I thought of any team 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:10.040 in the division, they went out and added the most 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:13.879 on offense. And yet the preseason concerns me for the 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:16.840 same reason it concerns West. But I look at the 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:20.159 Giants and I see a very bland team, and then 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:23.480 Dallas is a downright disaster on one half of the football. 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:26.920 So Washington second place. But again I'm telling you, it 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:30.800 doesn't matter. They these three teams will be completely adrift. 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:33.800 The NFC East is as down as it's been in 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:35.720 a while, and it's kind of been stuck there for 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:38.479 a few years. Is there a chance though, that they 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:41.680 I feel like, you know that we might be underrating 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:43.200 the Eagles, that they have a chance to go twelve 0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:45.040 and four, thirteen and three. They get the point, they 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:47.600 get to play the a f C South. That's nice. 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:50.159 Everyone looks at their schedule, they see forty Niners and 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:53.520 Seahawks because they gotta play that that division out of 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:55.840 dion util It looks hard, and yeah, that's hard, but 0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:58.480 maybe you can beat San Francisco in Philadelphia. Why not 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:01.399 You get the a f C South out of division 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:03.520 and you get six games against the rest of this 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:06.879 lousy group. Couldn't they go five and one, six and 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:10.640 oh against the some of these NFC East teams. Yeah, 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:12.840 it's possible. I don't think we're underrating them though. I 0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:14.480 don't think they're as good of a team as last 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:17.120 as they were in the second half of last year, 0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:19.840 and I think they'll miss to Sean Jackson. They they 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:22.440