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Speaker 1: Welcome on Everybody Today, Friday night edition of Texas All

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Speaker 1: Access from the Monday Texans Radio studio, and it is

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Speaker 1: my Friday Night. I'm your host, John Harris Football else

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Speaker 1: a salad reporter. I'm joined right off the bat by

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Speaker 1: my good friend Drew Doherty. Drew, how are you, my friend?

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Speaker 1: I'm good. Friday is the best day of the week,

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Speaker 1: is it. It's a fact? Yep. Not Saturday, Nope, Friday No,

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Speaker 1: because Friday you still have the anticipation of what's Saturday

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Speaker 1: Sunday night. That's true, and Saturday and Sunday often can disappoint.

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Speaker 1: Didn't we vote, didn't didn't we have a draft of

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Speaker 1: days at one point, I think I took Friday. I

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Speaker 1: think Friday went off the board first. Saturday. Probably I

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Speaker 1: would have taken Saturday because obviously it's affiliation with college football.

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Speaker 1: Sunday would have been up there. But then Sunday gets

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Speaker 1: you thinking about Monday. Yeah, I get the blues on

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Speaker 1: Sunday night. Monday is okay because you kind of survive Monday.

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Speaker 1: Tuesday within the reality of the new week sets in,

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Speaker 1: like Tuesdays. Thanks, Wednesday, you're almost there. Yeah, Wednesday you're

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Speaker 1: feeling like a yeah, man, all right, I'm cool and

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Speaker 1: usually Wednesday's my night or for radio, so I kind

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Speaker 1: of get I kind of get jacked up for Wednesday

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Speaker 1: and Thursday's like a Friday in many ways. Yeah, very true.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have something special for you in the next segment.

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Speaker 1: Somebody that has never been on Texans Radio will join

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Speaker 1: us in the next segment. Do I tease it and

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Speaker 1: say I'm gonna save it? You gotta stick around to

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Speaker 1: say that there is um personnel involved. Let's put it

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Speaker 1: that way. Personnel's involved. Then Mark Vandam will join us

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Speaker 1: later on Drew. It's April fifth today. We're getting pretty

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Speaker 1: close to the schedule release, right, yeah, the first aren't

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Speaker 1: you anticipating it? Next week? Probably next week? Maybe a

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Speaker 1: week from this Tuesday. First though, today's my wife's birthday,

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Speaker 1: say birthday? Vita shot out, Vida, happy birthday only uh

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Speaker 1: six days away from mine? Mine was Sunday. HER's this Friday?

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Speaker 1: Five days or six days? That? Five or six days?

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Speaker 1: Can you give her age on the on the radio?

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Speaker 1: Or she would she kill you? Twenty three? Very nice,

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Speaker 1: very nice man. You did well considering your fifty one.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's nice well, the hair plugs. They work

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Speaker 1: really well in the caffine plants and pecking plants, So

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Speaker 1: that's true. So happy birthday. But yeah, back to the schedule.

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Speaker 1: I think it's probably gonna come out next week or

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Speaker 1: a week from Tuesday. It seems like it's always on

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Speaker 1: a Tuesday or Wednesday, but I remember not a Thursday

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Speaker 1: one time, So that was my hope, is that it's

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Speaker 1: next Thursday. It's one of those sandwich days, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's one of those. Yeah, they don't want it to

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Speaker 1: get it to Friday. And then Monday is I don't

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Speaker 1: know why they've never done it on Monday. But the

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Speaker 1: schedule itself coming out the schedule release. Mark and I

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Speaker 1: talked about this just briefly the other day, but I

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Speaker 1: think that's one of my favorite days of the entire

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Speaker 1: NFL calendar, getting the actual schedule and sitting down and going, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we've got X number of primetime games, we're going to

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Speaker 1: such and such a place, we're taking three road trips

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Speaker 1: in a row, and then this year we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: to London, whether it's week seven week, and on top

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Speaker 1: of that, we might find out the London trip. We

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Speaker 1: might know the London game. Usually that comes before before

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Speaker 1: the schedule release, so that might be coming here any

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Speaker 1: day now, Yeah, usually that comes before this guy. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I remember the London games being released last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: You're excited about it? Oh? Totally. I've never been to London.

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Speaker 1: I think it was the same exact bye week week nine,

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Speaker 1: October so stupid. Yeah, I mean to play four weeks,

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Speaker 1: State cougs and cougs. And then the next night, September fourteenth,

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Speaker 1: be shocked if we're home that they wouldn't do a

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Speaker 1: be the Monday night games. Yeah, I wouldn't think that

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to our Friday edition of Texans All Access

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Speaker 1: Jets at the time. Joe Joe's now with the Chargers

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Speaker 1: as a director of player personnel. My role and those

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Speaker 1: two guys were really responsible for getting me in Um

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Speaker 1: they gave me my first shot, and so I was

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Speaker 1: really I worked with those guys for a year, worked

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Speaker 1: with Brian for a year, and then Brian of course

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Speaker 1: went on went to Dallas and then Miami and and

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Speaker 1: here's he's here now obviously, But yeah, I worked with

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Speaker 1: Brian for one year and then we just over the years,

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Speaker 1: we stayed in contact, you know, wherever he went, wherever,

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Speaker 1: you know, when I was with the Jets, I stayed

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Speaker 1: in contact with him. And uh, yeah, I mean when

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Speaker 1: he got the GM job, you know, he gave me

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Speaker 1: the call and and uh that was basically it. So

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Speaker 1: I did work with him for a year, but it's

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Speaker 1: it's been a little while, but you kept in touch

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Speaker 1: off of him. Yes, all right, you've got experience in

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Speaker 1: both college and pro scouting. Obviously you oversee both now.

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Speaker 1: But for people that might not know, I know this

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Speaker 1: is a popular question, what are the big similarities in

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Speaker 1: differences in college versus pro scouting? Okay, well, certainly with college,

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Speaker 1: it's it's obvious it's the travel, right, um, and I

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Speaker 1: would say it's college is just straight projection. It's you know,

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Speaker 1: it's really digging into the person, the background, um, projecting

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Speaker 1: what kind of fitt he is for us, not only

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Speaker 1: is a person, but as I mentioned, but also scheme fit.

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Speaker 1: What he what is he asked to do in college

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Speaker 1: as opposed to what Bill's going to ask him to

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Speaker 1: do in offense or rack on defense and projecting his

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Speaker 1: skill set to what we ask our players to do.

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Speaker 1: So basically, it's in college, it's in general, it's travel

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Speaker 1: and it's projecting players for the Texans, and in pro

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Speaker 1: it's it's more it's more apples to apples because you're

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Speaker 1: not really projecting players. You're watching an NFL pass rusher

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Speaker 1: against an NFL tackle. UM, So it's it's really apple

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Speaker 1: to apples. I would say that the biggest thing with

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Speaker 1: pro is just responding to injuries. UM, making sure you

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Speaker 1: know we're bringing in players, you know, during the season

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Speaker 1: if a guy's hurt, like, how how would that guy?

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Speaker 1: It's it's a little bit of a projection, but it's

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Speaker 1: more apples to apples. Okay, you know this guy's a

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Speaker 1: three four outside backer, Um, you know can he can

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Speaker 1: he be a four three d ND or vice versa.

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Speaker 1: So I would say more again, going back to college,

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Speaker 1: it's it's traveling, it's projection. Pro, it's apples, Apple's responding injuries.

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Speaker 1: I guarantee you I'm going to Deep Slam podcast to

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Speaker 1: hear that entire discussion with Matt Basigan, director of player

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Speaker 1: personnel for your Houston Texans. Great job there by, Deep

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Speaker 1: and of course Matt, all right, we get back. Voice

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Speaker 1: of Texans, Mark VanderMeer joins me. Talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: about Drey Howe's retirement and doesn't impact the draft priority

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Speaker 1: in the first two days of the draft. To talk

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Speaker 1: about that next on Texans All Access one final segment

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Speaker 1: of a Friday edition of Texans All Access from the

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Speaker 1: Hounday Texans Radio studio. I'm your host, John Harris. Last

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Speaker 1: time that I did the Friday's show, Matt Khalil signed

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Speaker 1: with the Houston Texans. So the news broke, Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: he was signing Houston Texans, Mark, So we had to

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Speaker 1: talk about it, and I was where I was somewhere

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Speaker 1: I was on the fall. Yeah, I had to I

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Speaker 1: had to call you. Yeah, doing the show, Hey, come

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Speaker 1: on to talk about Matt Khalil, and you did. You

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Speaker 1: You're gracious, and you know everyone's coming around with the

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Speaker 1: fact that he might start. You know, if he's healthy,

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Speaker 1: why not why not start? I mean, Julian Davenport probably

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to hear that, but good competition. Makes everybody better.

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Speaker 1: They'll draft somebody as well at some point. So let's

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Speaker 1: just see what happens there. So we get the news

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Speaker 1: mark on Wednesday, well, Tuesday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, I think

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Speaker 1: it was Tuesday. I think it was Tuesday about Andre

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Speaker 1: how Yeah, and I talked about this a little bit

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday. What do you think that does to the

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Speaker 1: draft strategy in particular? And I think about the draft

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Speaker 1: kind of split up this way. There are four picks

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Speaker 1: and then there's Day three. Yeah, so I think about

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Speaker 1: the four picks because I think those four picks that

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Speaker 1: they have the first rounder, the two seconds, and the third. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I gotta look at those four picks like that's gotta

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Speaker 1: be an addition to your foundation going forward. Like you've

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Speaker 1: got to hit not a home runs maybe, but you

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Speaker 1: gotta hit three doubles at least. WHOA got three doubles,

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Speaker 1: three doubles, one home run? You need to go three

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Speaker 1: for four with those Well this look, you know how

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Speaker 1: the draft is, joh, I know it's three doubles the

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Speaker 1: first four. I'm not saying you gotta hit quentn Nelson,

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Speaker 1: Braden Smith home runs. You know what it's And I

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Speaker 1: think you and I were talking about this off the

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Speaker 1: year the other day. If you were going to equate

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Speaker 1: it to baseball terminology and averages and things like that,

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Speaker 1: I think that it's like saying, you have four at

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Speaker 1: bats and are you gonna hit three doubles and four

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Speaker 1: at bats? Probably not unless you're Verry Bonds and we

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Speaker 1: all know what's going on there. Now. I was wonderful,

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Speaker 1: but just yeah, I think you've got to hit out

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Speaker 1: of those first four. You've got to get a starter

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Speaker 1: who's going to have a second contract. Okay, you have

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Speaker 1: to get a starter who may or may not have

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Speaker 1: a second contract, and you got to hit one contributor,

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Speaker 1: meaning a guy who could start on occasion, play a

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Speaker 1: lot be reasonable for you, and you could have a miss,

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Speaker 1: but the miss cannot be in the first round. You're correct,

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Speaker 1: So that's that's what I'm correct. And people are saying, Mandy,

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Speaker 1: your standards are so listen, look at drafts, not just

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Speaker 1: People tend to only look at the Texans when they

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Speaker 1: look at the way the draft is like, who is

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Speaker 1: the I'm gonna refrain from using a word. Somebody said

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Speaker 1: they only from the twenty fourteen draft, they only have

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Speaker 1: clowney left. Yeah, big deal. I mean from the twenty

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Speaker 1: third that they have somebody yes says something you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, other than your first round or the only

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Speaker 1: that's the only guy who's protected into five years if

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Speaker 1: you choose to protect them. Everybody else needs a second contract.

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Speaker 1: You'd love to get one or two second contract guys

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Speaker 1: out of every draft other than the first round. That'd

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Speaker 1: be great, but most teams don't do it. Most teams

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Speaker 1: are comprised of the last three draft classes, three or

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Speaker 1: four and that's it. Some free agents and three, four,

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Speaker 1: five guys who are from previous drafts who you as

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Speaker 1: signed to second and third contracts. That's it. If you're

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Speaker 1: lucky enough, you have a quarterback who's been there for

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Speaker 1: a decade, who's really helping you out, maybe not a decade,

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Speaker 1: but a bunch of time, who's not a second contract. Well,

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Speaker 1: I look at it this way. Russell Wilson's about to

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Speaker 1: sign a third contract. Third contract. I mean, it's amazing

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Speaker 1: to think about. It doesn't feel like he's been in

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Speaker 1: the league that long, but he's gonna sign a third contract.

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Speaker 1: Rading has signed seventy two contracts. Feels actually in renegotiations

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Speaker 1: and things like that. By saying they need to hit

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Speaker 1: three doubles, I'm perpetuating my own the problem that I

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Speaker 1: always have an issue with, and that is you as

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Speaker 1: you look at drafts. Yeah, and I've used the basketball

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Speaker 1: analogy because I think a lot of people look at

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Speaker 1: a draft and they think you've got to hit a

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Speaker 1: free throw percentage, like most guys will hit seventy five percent. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when the reality is it's more like three point shooting percentage,

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Speaker 1: which is more like thirty five to forty percent. If

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Speaker 1: you have thirty five to forty percent of your draft picks,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be You're gonna be hoisting. What hit me?

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Speaker 1: What has hit? Mean? Well? I think it. I think

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Speaker 1: it varies kind of. I think it varies by round. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think, and I know Coach and Brian will tell

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Speaker 1: us all the time it doesn't matter where you're drafted

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Speaker 1: once you get into building. Yeah, I get that part,

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Speaker 1: but I do think. You know, look, there's a reason

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Speaker 1: a guy's a fifth rounder versus being the third highest

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Speaker 1: signage of success if you're drafted earlier. Absolutely, I think

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Speaker 1: you you said it perfectly. You cannot miss on your

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Speaker 1: first rounder. It is detrimental and I think, and this

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Speaker 1: is a tough one to use, but I think Kevin

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Speaker 1: is a perfect example. John Why Kevin Johnson Because what

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Speaker 1: was the what was the cost of having Kevin Johnson

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Speaker 1: first rounder in a defensive backfield? Well, you you didn't

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Speaker 1: sign a J Boyer if you didn't have Kevin Johnson. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe you sign a J boy You just go all

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Speaker 1: in on whatever the cost is. Maybe so yeah, or

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Speaker 1: you draft somebody previously, or and you maybe maybe we're

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Speaker 1: gonna draft the third round and that's gonna right out

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Speaker 1: to be a really good player for you, and you

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Speaker 1: didn't do it, but your first rounder, You're gonna give

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Speaker 1: every opportunity to prove second rounders not as much, but

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Speaker 1: they're at least with a smaller Can you know with

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Speaker 1: the first rounder you can have that fifty year option.

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Speaker 1: With a second rounder, it's not it's not as much,

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Speaker 1: but that second rounder is still a top it's still

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Speaker 1: a top in some case a top forty pick, some

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Speaker 1: top in some cases a top sixty five pick. You

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Speaker 1: need to have that player in the Texati had success

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Speaker 1: with that second rounder with Zach, with b Mac, with

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Speaker 1: Mika Ryans. I mean, we've hit it out of the

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Speaker 1: park with linebackers in the second round, So I think

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Speaker 1: those guys have probably overperformed with a second round pick

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Speaker 1: would be but that's the kind of player in the

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Speaker 1: second round. But you're gonna give that player in the

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Speaker 1: second round a little bit. You're gonna want to see

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Speaker 1: him succeed. But that first rounder is the one where

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Speaker 1: it's like it has to work and you cannot miss

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Speaker 1: on the first round? Is Johnson the biggest miss for

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Speaker 1: this organization since Mobia Koyer? Say? Yeah, probably? I mean really,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of that was really injuries. You know.

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Speaker 1: I think we all agree if Kevin Johnson was able

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Speaker 1: to stay healthy. And that's why it's tricky and problematic

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Speaker 1: to talk about it. In some sense, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: call up it's you know, there there are busts and

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Speaker 1: their injury busts, right you know, And and to me,

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Speaker 1: that's an injury situation right there. Much more than he

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Speaker 1: can't play. I think he can play. I just think

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Speaker 1: he couldn't play because he was hurt, right and then

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Speaker 1: when he was out there, maybe he wasn't one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent so that affected the caliber of play. But it

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Speaker 1: really is it's too bad because this organization had hit

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Speaker 1: on so many first round draft choices and that's a

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Speaker 1: sad thing. And you're right, it sets you up. It

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Speaker 1: sets you back. It's kind of like if you miss

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Speaker 1: on a quarterback, except to a lesser extent, but it

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Speaker 1: sets you back at cornerback because here you are having

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Speaker 1: to draft a corner right now. You have to sign Roby,

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Speaker 1: You have to draft a corner. You got to shore

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Speaker 1: that up. So what's the cost of missing While the

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Speaker 1: cost was you weren't able to sign Aja Boy, you

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Speaker 1: got to spend the money to go get Bradley Robe.

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Speaker 1: Then obviously you have to spend some money to get

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Speaker 1: Brian Body Calhoun. You spend money last year it didn't

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Speaker 1: really pan out on came on Webster and Sharis, right,

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Speaker 1: So missing in the first round, you're gonna give that

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Speaker 1: player so many opportunities. As you get in further rounds,

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Speaker 1: those players aren't going to get the opportunity. Yes, you know,

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Speaker 1: third round, I think we found out you got it.

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Speaker 1: You got a couple of years, you got you gotta

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Speaker 1: jo you gotta win the job, and if you don't,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be competition coming behind you. And if that

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Speaker 1: guy's better we're going with that guy. You know, it's funny.

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Speaker 1: We found it out this pass camp at twenty eighteen

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Speaker 1: with Braxton Miller in particular, before I went on this

639
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Speaker 1: morning with Mad Radio. The hour prior, they were talking

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Speaker 1: about what success would be like in this year's draft class.

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Speaker 1: And I think that not just the draft class, but

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Speaker 1: I'll drafted free agents. You know, you forget things like

643
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: contribution could be anything. When you look at Dylan Cole

644
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen. Obviously the Texans had a bad year,

645
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: but Cole had a pick six in a Titan game.

646
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: I mean he had another pick against the Round where

647
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: he got a hurt. You know it had you had

648
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Speaker 1: a good season there and Cole had just done that

649
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: and gone out, you'd say, all right, that's too bad

650
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: he got hurt. But at least I've got a contribution

651
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: out of an undrafted free agent. And I'm looking forward

652
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: to the future. And they need guys like that. They

653
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: need people who can come in and do something for them.

654
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: And maybe they don't turn out to be Pro bowlers.

655
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: Maybe all they do is make a few plays here

656
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: or there, but they're available to you and they could

657
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: possibly turn out to be more but it's too much

658
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: to ask you to draft a rookie and he's gonna

659
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: play sixteen games and he's gonna get these kind of numbers.

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00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not saying the first rounder, but I'm

661
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: talking about every member of the draft class, or as

662
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: he said, eighty percent of the draft class. You can't

663
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: count on that at all. It's not gonna happen, unless

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Speaker 1: if it does, it's an NFL miracle. Very few draft

665
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: classes turn out to be that way, even the greatest

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00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: draft classes for this franchise, oh six oh nine. You

667
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: could say those classes right off the bat, did they

668
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: look that great? Well, they looked better as time went on. Actually, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I didn't. I think that's that's okay to look

670
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: at that way. Eve was pretty good. That guy that

671
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: was drafted at the top of the he's pretty good.

672
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: But I think you're right. I think you cannot miss

673
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: on the first rounder, right. I think it is there.

674
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: There's so many advantages to hitting on that first rounder

675
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: because you get that fifty years, not year. You know,

676
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: if you have that, you have that opportunity of five

677
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: years at an affordable price. Second rounder, and I know

678
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: people will listen to say, well, you got it. You know,

679
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: you didn't hit on third rounders for a long time

680
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: and then that's what was missing in the core of

681
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: your team. And Okay, I get that. But Deonta Foreman,

682
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: hopefully he's a hit. Hopefully he's got to be healthy.

683
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: He's only played I thought about this the other day,

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00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: Mark he's only played in eleven games. Eleven games. He's

685
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: going to his third year. Wow, So I mean he's

686
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: uber talented. But I think he's a huge X factor

687
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: for this offense. I think the two X factors for

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00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: the offense this year are Deonta Foreman now given health,

689
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: to Will Fuller. I think I think Will's the ultimate. Yeah,

690
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: I think a Fuller changes everything, everything every I think

691
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: it changes. And then you throw QT in and it's unbelievable.

692
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: You know, like if you're making you know, if you

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00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: if you're making uh nachos right, and now you know

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00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: you have the chips with with DeAndre Hopkins and you're

695
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: adding the case so with Fuller and now you're throwing

696
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: like all sorts of great stuff on there with QT.

697
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: You got you got guacamole. You're really adding to the

698
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: mix there, so you can I like your analogy because

699
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: if you have the chips and the cheese, you're okay,

700
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: You're like you can survive. You're more than all because

701
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: those chips and cheese are pretty darn good. Yeah. Now

702
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: on top exactly, and you're adding all the topics. I

703
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: think the two X factors to me outside of health,

704
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: keep that up. I think end up being Dean and

705
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: Martinez Rankin. That's gonna be big too, to see what

706
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: he can do. Can he win a job at guard? Uh?

707
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: Is your tackle gonna be Khalil Davenport or rookie that

708
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Also running back is with Blue go

709
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: to ja Aaxonville. It's not like we thought Blue was

710
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: gonna be on the team, but we didn't know he

711
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be on the team. You just knew he

712
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: wasn't signed. They could always sign him again. You thought

713
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: last year. Now he's gone for sure, and you're thinking, well,

714
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna do something. They gotta do something. I mean,

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00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: you know, you look at Lamar Miller and he had

716
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: a really good year last year. Actually look at the

717
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: yards per carry and all of that. That was a

718
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: good year. But you know, you want to be more

719
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: diverse at running back, and Foremant can certainly provide that.

720
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Speaker 1: A healthy Diante Foremant. However, they're gonna draft a running back, Johnny,

721
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be mid to late rounds. They're gonna

722
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: draft somebody and he's gonna be able to catch the ball,

723
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to run the ball, and you

724
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 1: want to just get better at that position group. Okay,

725
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: so let's let's bring him back to where we talked

726
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: about the beginning. Drey Howe retires, right, So what does

727
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: it do to safety? Not only what it does the

728
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: safety draft strategy with those first four picks. So, yeah,

729
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: here's here's the scenario that when when we talked about

730
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: this before drey Howe retired, safety to me was kind

731
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: of off the radar screen. We've got two starters with

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00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: drey Howe and they play a lot of nickel. Yeah,

733
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,919
Speaker 1: he's on the field, a lot of Charter's hurt. Drey

734
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: How's playing your field, right, Yeah, and then you put

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00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson in there. I think Mike's gonna gonna play

736
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: much better than a J. Moore. I think, Yeah, I

737
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: think you've got those guys that are gonna have an

738
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: opportunity in training camp to show that they maybe deserve

739
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: to have some time at safety. But now you don't

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Speaker 1: have Dre Howe back there, and you've got four picks. Now,

741
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Speaker 1: originally I thought with those four picks, I wouldn't have

742
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: been opposed to either tackle or corner, doubling up like

743
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: having drafting two tackles and then you've got a corner

744
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: for one and then your other position is running back

745
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: or say or whatever. Right, or you took two corners

746
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: in one tackle, right, and then the other one was

747
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: running back or whatever whatever you want it to be.

748
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: But now with Dre how not being there, do you

749
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: feel like there needs to be a safety draft in

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Speaker 1: one of those four picks in the in the first four. No,

751
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: I don't need to draft the safety in the first four.

752
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: I have my starters. I have. Look, I don't have

753
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: amazing depth there, but I've got I got a couple

754
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: of bodies. But I want to pick up a safety

755
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 1: late in the draft. I want to pick it, pick

756
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: up an undrafted guy Drey House, a seventh round draft choice.

757
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 1: Less we forget so you're gonna be able to find somebody.

758
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: There's probably a veteran out there I could use you know, look,

759
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: once upon a time, Quentin Demps led this team in interceptions,

760
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: and he was a guy who was available to anybody

761
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: with a with a checkbook. So, and not to take

762
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: anything away from him, but there are players out there

763
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: who can help you, especially at that position. You know,

764
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: Will Demps once upon a time, help this team. You know,

765
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: Gene Wilson, once upon a time, help this team. You know,

766
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: Bernard Pollard once upon a time was available with very

767
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: little fanfare and then ended up making plays. Now, not

768
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: for a long period of time, But I can find

769
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: guys out there. I don't need to draft the safety

770
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: in those first four picks. So those first four picks,

771
00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: no more significant free agents are added till the draft.

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00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: What are you doing with those first four picks in

773
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: I know it's dependent on the board, Yeah, you know

774
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 1: what's on the board, but highlighting the particular positions, Yeah,

775
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: what do you think they should be? Corner tackle, maybe

776
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: another old linement and running back or a wide receiver,

777
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: an offensive weapon. So in other words, you're not changing

778
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: the strategy of what we kind of thought it should be. No,

779
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: I'm not changing it at all, not changing it. No,

780
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: because I lost a Andre how love him was depth

781
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: for this football team and heart and soul and all that.

782
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: He's a ball bag that I get it. He always

783
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: you know, some guys just find a way to be

784
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: around the wall, even if it's well that was tipped

785
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: and but some guys just find it. They're just there,

786
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: you know. And I think it's a magical quality. Sometimes

787
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: it's very hard to sort of quantify other than the

788
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 1: fact that they get picks. Anyway, the starters, we all

789
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: know that te Sean Gibson and Justin Reid are gonna

790
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,479
Speaker 1: start at safety. No, I didn't need to like wait

791
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: for that to play out. I knew that was gonna happen.

792
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 1: So I'm okay with finding depth deep in the draft,

793
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: free agency, undrafted free agent. It's not gonna change my

794
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: first four. I'm gonna go two old lineman, corner, you know.

795
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: And I'm hesitant to say two old lineman. I could

796
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: almost say two corners. I don't know, but uh, because

797
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: you know, they got to get stronger back at the

798
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: at the edges. They want to get strong. It's not

799
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: just for next season, Johnny, It's for the years to come.

800
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: Roby's on a one year deal and Jonathan Joseph is

801
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 1: on a father time deal, right he's on You never

802
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: know when it's yeah, he's not. You know, he's got

803
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: twenty five years old anymore, So you gotta be very

804
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: careful there. Well, I wouldn't be surprised if it ends

805
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: up being two defensive backs, and I know that there's

806
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: gotta be there's gotta be some um yeah, the OVID

807
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: line still like, I get it. I wouldn't. I still

808
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: think it's gonna end up being two defensive backs x

809
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: or two of its alignement with one of them being

810
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: a tackle. I wouldn't be surprised. What's the other position group?

811
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: An offensive weapon? I think it offensive whatever. Yeah, running

812
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: back could be. No, I don't think a tight end.

813
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: I you know, with with Fells, Griffin, Aikins and Jordan Thomas,

814
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 1: I just don't think you're gonna draft the tight end. Look,

815
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: I know people out there, well, DeShawn wants to need

816
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: another weapon. Look, if you have QT Fuller and Hopkins,

817
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: that's where the majority of your throws are gonna go,

818
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: that's where they're gonna get the targets those three And

819
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: then Bill said it at the Bill Brian said it

820
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: at the coach's breakfast if he wants to get the

821
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: backs more involved as well. Yeah, well that was also

822
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 1: that was also saying offensive line's got to be better

823
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: so that the backs can get out in the routes.

824
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: So I would like to see the backs get involved,

825
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: because both Lamar Miller and do out there form we

826
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: know and catch football. I wouldn't be surprised Mark if

827
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: that third that third running back position would be somebody

828
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: they draft. But it's not the perfect running back words.

829
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: It could be could be running back, could be wide receiver,

830
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: could do a little of both. Could be a younger

831
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: Akeem Hunt kind of player. Yeah, exactly, a younger a

832
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: Keem Hunt. This guy a Memphis by the name of

833
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard played running back, played some receiver, kind of

834
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: mix of both, right exactly. So I think you could

835
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: end up being somebody like that. And that's kind of

836
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: the luxury you're afforded to a degree because you have

837
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: the other weapons you have. As long as they are healthy,

838
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: that's a huge caveat, and you won't know that draft weekend.

839
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: You have a feeling that there are on track to

840
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: be healthy, but you won't know whether they're gonna stay healthy.

841
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: But I think you can find weapons that way. But

842
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: to me, I think it still is. I think you

843
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: can solve the problem that we're kind of that I've

844
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: kind of brought up of losing Drey Howe into your

845
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: thought of drafting two defensive backs. I think you can

846
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: kind of put the two of them together because most

847
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: of it, when Drey would go in the game, they

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Speaker 1: would have three safeties on the field. One of the

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Speaker 1: safeties would drop down most of the time, Tyrant, and

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Speaker 1: then they would have Drey Howell just to read the back. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well you can leave to Sean Gibson and just to

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Speaker 1: read the back, and then you play nickel. Well, you

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Speaker 1: got Aaron Colvin, ls got Brian body Calhoun. If you

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Speaker 1: draft a guy that's got some safety, some corner, some

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Speaker 1: nickel like all in the same, and there are a

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Speaker 1: bunch of those guys in this draft, I think you

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Speaker 1: can find one of those with the four. So you

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Speaker 1: kind of kill two birds with one stone. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: get a guy that can can cover the slot. And

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Speaker 1: let's see what he is when when you get him

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Speaker 1: in here, like what's his normal position? Well, we don't

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Speaker 1: really know what that is because he does a lot

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Speaker 1: of different things. He could play safety in a pinch,

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Speaker 1: he could cover the nickles. He said, offensive weapon, this

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Speaker 1: is defensive backfield weapon, right absolutely, Mark, appreciate it. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: Look at Mark throwing my term right back at me.

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Speaker 1: Very nice offensive weapon. We need a defensive weapon, a

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Speaker 1: secondary weapon, how about that. Appreciate Marks doom By drew

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Speaker 1: from being by earlier DBC of course. And Matt Bassergatting,

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Speaker 1: director of Player Personnel for your Houston, Texas. Great stuff

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Speaker 1: for him, and hopefully we'll get more from him down

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Speaker 1: the road. And it was a it's a very busy

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Speaker 1: time for everybody in our personnel apart, and so appreciate

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Speaker 1: Matt for spending a few minutes with DP. You want

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Speaker 1: to hear that whole podcast, the Deep Slant podcast, go

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Speaker 1: check it out wherever you get your podcast, most of

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Speaker 1: you get it from iTunes. Go check it out there

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Speaker 1: you hear the end the lab, you can get Deep

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Speaker 1: Slant and of course Vandermeer's view. So go do that.

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Speaker 1: You guys, have a great weekend. Appreciate y'all for being here.

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Speaker 1: We'll see on Monday, and as always, go Texans.