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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, December thirty and two, twenty, season sixteen,
Speaker 1: episode number eighty nine. Welcome the latest edition of The Break,
Speaker 1: presented by Geico. We are live s WBC Morgan Studios
Speaker 1: at the Star. Got Nick and Dave here with me.
Speaker 1: Ambers out today, but we got Bucky Brooks joining us
Speaker 1: for the entire show for NFL NFL Network. We appreciate
Speaker 1: you joining us, Bucky. Good to have all you guys
Speaker 1: on the air and have you guys here in studio.
Speaker 1: It's good when we can actually see each other and
Speaker 1: be able to talk face to face. We're gonna start
Speaker 1: off the show today talking a little bit of catching
Speaker 1: up on some injuries. I had a topic I wanted
Speaker 1: to hit with you guys about Mike McCarthy's press conference.
Speaker 1: It was an interesting question that came up there that
Speaker 1: I want to throw out to you guys. We'll have
Speaker 1: Bucky segment where he will break down the New York
Speaker 1: Giants offense for US versus the Cowboys defense, and then
Speaker 1: we'll have some other questions about this Cowboys defense. Let's
Speaker 1: start first with injury updates. Dave, give me a rundown.
Speaker 1: We've got Zack Martin, We've got Leyden vandersh, Xavier Woods,
Speaker 1: and Zeke Elliott. They're all injured players. Tell me where
Speaker 1: we are as far status on them. Zack Martin's practice
Speaker 1: window has been opened, but he is not going to
Speaker 1: practice today, So do with that what you will. The
Speaker 1: owner yesterday said he doesn't think it's likely that he
Speaker 1: plays on Sunday, And if Jerry doesn't feel good about
Speaker 1: something on the injury front, that's usual not a good sign.
Speaker 1: But if if, if his practice windows open, that does mean,
Speaker 1: you know, if the Cowboys find their way into the playoffs,
Speaker 1: Zach might be available, maybe you know, for a wildcard
Speaker 1: game or something like that. I'm gonna pause you right
Speaker 1: there because I wanted to ask you guys, with a
Speaker 1: guy like him, that's so that's such a great player
Speaker 1: in a game that you would think is so important.
Speaker 1: Is this a situation where you would opt to play
Speaker 1: him even if he wasn't one hundred percent or do
Speaker 1: you think based upon where they are in the season,
Speaker 1: you don't take any chances unless you think he's one
Speaker 1: hundred percent or at least close to one hundred percent,
Speaker 1: you sit him. I gonna start with you name. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not playing him. And I only say this because
Speaker 1: of because I I can attest to this one. I
Speaker 1: really can't. Well, you know, you like playing it with
Speaker 1: a calf and then being stupid and still doing stuff
Speaker 1: on it and not giving its proper rest, and now
Speaker 1: you're dealing with it a year and a half later.
Speaker 1: I don't want him to deal with anything later. So
Speaker 1: if this means if he's rushing back kcaffeinjury, not only
Speaker 1: could you linger some things there, but you could maybe
Speaker 1: lead to like Kevin Durant, right, I mean people think
Speaker 1: he had like a torn achilles because of that. I'm
Speaker 1: not rushing him back for this game. If he's not.
Speaker 1: Uh No, if it's if it's the NFC Championship game
Speaker 1: or something bigger than that, we'll give it a few weeks.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about it later. Well, yeah, but I mean
Speaker 1: he should be back by then. But I'm just saying
Speaker 1: not not for this game. If you can't beat the
Speaker 1: Giants without Zach and Martin, then you know you're probably
Speaker 1: not gonna do anything anyways. Yeah, we also know Zach
Speaker 1: Martin is much like Tyrant Smith, like he's a BAMF.
Speaker 1: Like he's a tough, tough guy, like I remember second BAMF. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can google that if you're not on my if
Speaker 1: you're not on my wavelength, um man, I love it.
Speaker 1: But I mean I remember a few years ago, like
Speaker 1: you know, he he got tangled up at training camp
Speaker 1: and like they had to bring the card out and
Speaker 1: it was one of those like, oh my god, they're
Speaker 1: gonna lose Zach for the season, and like he was
Speaker 1: at practice the next day. So if he can't go
Speaker 1: that it's not like he's at ninety percent. No, it
Speaker 1: means he can't go because he'll got through some stuff,
Speaker 1: you know. So No, I mean, if it's a thing
Speaker 1: where they don't think he can play, that means it's
Speaker 1: serious and he should sit. And if it gets to
Speaker 1: the playoffs and he feels a little bit better, I
Speaker 1: probably changed my attitude, but not for this what are
Speaker 1: your thoughts on that, Bucky, Well, I think they've been
Speaker 1: playing so well as a unit. I don't think you
Speaker 1: need to bring Zach Martin back unless he's one percent healthy.
Speaker 1: This you know, quintet has played pretty well. They've done
Speaker 1: a good job of moving people off the ball, protecting
Speaker 1: the quarterback, and so only in an emergency would I
Speaker 1: bring him back. Now the playoffs, it's a different story,
Speaker 1: because if he's healthy and able to go, then obviously
Speaker 1: you want the more talented player on the front line.
Speaker 1: But because they play so well the last four or
Speaker 1: five weeks, I wouldn't change the chemistry and the continuity
Speaker 1: unless I know that Zach is going to be able
Speaker 1: to finish the game and finish the game playing really well.
Speaker 1: All right, Bucky, MA ask you this. Let's say that
Speaker 1: Zach is one question yesterday he is going to play?
Speaker 1: Where do you play him? And like who is that?
Speaker 1: You said the offensive lines figured it out, which is
Speaker 1: which is awesome, But who who would you play him for?
Speaker 1: You go back to his regular position and take McGovern now,
Speaker 1: or do you put him at tackle who is knocked
Speaker 1: out in that scenario? My preference, I would prefer to
Speaker 1: put him back at right tackle, if I could, I
Speaker 1: worry about I think the weakest link on the offensive
Speaker 1: line is Terring Steel. And so when we think about
Speaker 1: the teams that you would play, not only this game
Speaker 1: but going forward, typically they have a pass rush on
Speaker 1: that side that I want to deal with. I'm more
Speaker 1: confident in Zack Martin being able to seal the edges
Speaker 1: than Terring Skill. All right, let's let's go on with
Speaker 1: the rest of these guys that we got on the
Speaker 1: injury report. You got Lady Vanderish, Xavier Woods, and Zeke Elliot.
Speaker 1: What do we know about them? David Layton is not
Speaker 1: practicing today. Xavier Woods will be limited, which is a
Speaker 1: good sign of Zeke also limited kind of you know,
Speaker 1: it seems like they have Zeke on a maintenance plan,
Speaker 1: probably for however long they're gonna keep playing. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel optimistic he can play, but they'll probably be
Speaker 1: careful with him in practice. Also a bamp, so yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, all right, let's move on. I want to
Speaker 1: talk about Mike McCarthy's press conference this morning. That was
Speaker 1: a question that was asked to him, and I really
Speaker 1: don't want to focus too much on his answer because
Speaker 1: his answer was kind of it just a it didn't
Speaker 1: really answer the question in my opinion, But I would
Speaker 1: like to pose the question to you guys. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would like to pose the question to you guys. One
Speaker 1: of the media people ask him, and I don't know
Speaker 1: who it was, but they ask, what is the identity
Speaker 1: of this team? And so I'm gonna ask you guys.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go around the room, what do you think
Speaker 1: is the identity of the team? And by the way,
Speaker 1: you can also throw in doesn't really matter because we've
Speaker 1: had this conversation before on this show about identities and
Speaker 1: does an identity really matter? Do you have to have
Speaker 1: an identity in order to be successful? Can you have
Speaker 1: lots of identities and be successful in the NFL? But
Speaker 1: I want to get your opinions on what you think
Speaker 1: the identity of this team is. Let's start with you. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm just laughing because I know exactly who asked and
Speaker 1: I know exactly why, because it stemmed from the Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith question or an answer from the other day when
Speaker 1: he said that he had a big detailed answer. I
Speaker 1: don't really know what the identity of a team is,
Speaker 1: and I don't think honestly I don't think that I've
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have really had a real identity other than
Speaker 1: those couple of years where they were running the ball
Speaker 1: real well. But when you're eight and eight, I mean,
Speaker 1: what is your identity, Well, you're seven to nine, nine
Speaker 1: and seven. I mean it's that you're an inconsistent team.
Speaker 1: You don't do something so well that you can overcome
Speaker 1: it every week. So you're just inconsistent. If that's the identity,
Speaker 1: then that's what it is. But I don't really think
Speaker 1: there is one other than the fact that I don't
Speaker 1: know what the hell this team is going to do
Speaker 1: each week. That's what it is. So I don't have
Speaker 1: no I don't have an answer either. I don't blame
Speaker 1: McCarthy for not having an answer because I don't have one.
Speaker 1: And I mean, you know, you can point across the
Speaker 1: board offense and defense. I don't think they have one.
Speaker 1: I mean we've made jokes all season, like you know,
Speaker 1: you think about I go to Brian Flores in Miami,
Speaker 1: like he comes from the New England school. He's like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have two great man corners, We're gonna pressure
Speaker 1: the quarterback, blah blah blah, or you know, Chris Richard,
Speaker 1: everybody that's tied to Pete Carroll's tree, Like we're gonna
Speaker 1: play cover three, We're gonna rally and tackle Rod Marin.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what Mike Nolan, Like, what's
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan hang his hat on? What does he do?
Speaker 1: You know? What were they trying to do that defensively?
Speaker 1: And it just didn't work because they didn't have notablement
Speaker 1: it didn't have the players. But that will, that would.
Speaker 1: But even like even before we knew how bad the
Speaker 1: defense was gonna be, it was kind of like, well,
Speaker 1: what's the front like? Or how many? How many downlinement?
Speaker 1: Like what's DeMarcus Lawrence gonna do? Well, what's the what's
Speaker 1: that look like? And like we never got great answers
Speaker 1: even before the season started. And then I think you
Speaker 1: can even you can pull back and really take a
Speaker 1: macro look, And I honestly, I think it's kind of
Speaker 1: troubling because this team probably needs to figure out what
Speaker 1: its identity is. Like you think about the Dak Prescott situation,
Speaker 1: like you're gonna pay him, Like do you think that
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is the key to your successor or is
Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott the quote unquote straw that stirs the drink.
Speaker 1: That's a quote from ownership. By the way, you're paying
Speaker 1: him fifteen million dollars a year, Like, are you like
Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta get back to smash mouth, ground
Speaker 1: and pound. Zeke is the key to our success or
Speaker 1: is it? Like you know, Seattle went through this recently.
Speaker 1: Let Russ Cook like that took over the league in
Speaker 1: the early part of the season. Are you gonna channel
Speaker 1: this team through Dak Prescott? What about the defense You're
Speaker 1: other than DeMarcus Lawrence behind him, Like the most expensive
Speaker 1: parts of your defense are probably two linebackers, Jalen who
Speaker 1: you paid and Layton who's a first round pick. That
Speaker 1: says something to me like we're gonna be physical, We're
Speaker 1: gonna stop the run. Our linebackers are gonna fly over
Speaker 1: the field. That really hasn't been happening. So your resources
Speaker 1: are invested in guys that aren't probably doing what you
Speaker 1: would prefer. So like, that's that is all stuff that
Speaker 1: I think they need to figure out because I don't
Speaker 1: think they know what their identity is and they have
Speaker 1: a lot of resources invested in different guys where there's
Speaker 1: confusion about what this team's key to successes. I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm rambling, but it's good. It's good, I think,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that is a big thing to
Speaker 1: figure out in twenty twenty one, is like what do
Speaker 1: you what do you want this team to be and
Speaker 1: who are the guys that are going to get you there?
Speaker 1: Like is it Dac, is it Zeke in the O line, etc. Bucky.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny that in listening to you guys
Speaker 1: talk about it, there doesn't seem to be a clear
Speaker 1: vision for who this team is and what they're about.
Speaker 1: And I would say that's a major problem because when
Speaker 1: we talk about some teams, you can close your eyes
Speaker 1: and know exactly what the team is like when they
Speaker 1: come into the building. You talk about Pittsburgh, you know
Speaker 1: they're gonna be a hard nosed, physical football team that's
Speaker 1: gonna get after you. You talk about Baltimore, they're gonna
Speaker 1: be a ground and pound offense and a physical, aggressive defense.
Speaker 1: Even if thinking about Seattle, they are having the toughest
Speaker 1: time with letting Russ Cook because Carroll's identity is we
Speaker 1: want to run the football and play great defense. When
Speaker 1: I think about the Cowboys, I don't know, and to me,
Speaker 1: that's a problem because great teams, great franchises, from the
Speaker 1: top down, ownership all the way down, you know exactly
Speaker 1: what the brand is. And in my mind, in the past,
Speaker 1: when the Cowboys have won successfully, it was about the
Speaker 1: grounding pound with Zeke, the offensive line, the defense, running
Speaker 1: and playing hard and doing those things. Right now, they're
Speaker 1: in transition and I don't know if Mike McCarthy really
Speaker 1: knows what exactly he wants, and he needs to figure
Speaker 1: that out because it's hard to get players to buy
Speaker 1: into a vision that is not clearly articulated on a
Speaker 1: daily basis. And I think that has been part of
Speaker 1: the up and down nature of the team because they
Speaker 1: don't know what they're about, and I think that needs
Speaker 1: to be cleared up. And Jalen Smith's answer was really
Speaker 1: a long, verbose answer that really said nothing to me
Speaker 1: when I looked at it, you know. And that's that's
Speaker 1: where that question came from today, because Jalen said it
Speaker 1: the other day when I asked him just about about,
Speaker 1: you know, the win and all that, and he said,
Speaker 1: we have found our identity. We got to keep focusing
Speaker 1: on that. And then I asked him, okay, what is
Speaker 1: the team's identity. He said, the identity is an electric
Speaker 1: ass offense, an offense that when they're rolling, no one
Speaker 1: can stop them. We got three to four to five guys.
Speaker 1: You can throw the ball around multiple guys. So he
Speaker 1: kind of rambles there, and then he says, on defense,
Speaker 1: it's about toughness, it's about stopping the run, it's about
Speaker 1: getting off the field on third down. We got guys
Speaker 1: that know how to rush the pastor we've got to
Speaker 1: give them opportunity, and that's up to me and the
Speaker 1: rest of the linebackers. We got to continue to fight. Man,
Speaker 1: the secondary is doing a hell of a job. They
Speaker 1: got a rhythm, they've got a clear understanding. We just
Speaker 1: got to stay patient. There's one game left, so I
Speaker 1: don't know about that, but we've got to keep working
Speaker 1: on ourselves individually and as a team. Very thankful for
Speaker 1: our fan base for continuing to ride with us. Man.
Speaker 1: This guy, his attitude is just amazing. He loves the
Speaker 1: fans and they what he gave you right there was
Speaker 1: was their mission statement. Like that's inspirational. That's what they
Speaker 1: want to be. I don't know that they are that,
Speaker 1: but that's what they want to be and to be
Speaker 1: honest with you. I think, in all fairness, that's like
Speaker 1: a mission statement. This is what we want to be, right,
Speaker 1: But that's just not what they have been so far.
Speaker 1: And I will say this, I give a little bit
Speaker 1: of deference to McCarthy and the coaching staff because I
Speaker 1: do think they went into this year with an idea
Speaker 1: of what they thought their identity would be. I thought,
Speaker 1: I think they probably thought this offense was gonna be
Speaker 1: a very dynamic offense that was gonna put up a
Speaker 1: ton of points. I think defensively, they wanted to be
Speaker 1: a multifront defense that could morph based upon their opponent.
Speaker 1: And I think what they found out this year is
Speaker 1: on defense, either they don't have the right components or
Speaker 1: they didn't have the right amount of time in order
Speaker 1: to implement that and make themselves become that um. And
Speaker 1: I think on offense, they lost a quarterback and so
Speaker 1: they didn't get a chance to really realize what they
Speaker 1: expected their identity to be on either offense or defense.
Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, isn't an
Speaker 1: identity is just the thing that you feel really confident
Speaker 1: you can do no matter what right, And they lost
Speaker 1: the pieces that let them do that on offense, and
Speaker 1: we probably need a whole show to get into why
Speaker 1: the defense didn't achieve that either. But they don't have
Speaker 1: that right now, Like neither side of the ball has
Speaker 1: a thing where it's like, no matter what, we can
Speaker 1: do this, they don't have that. Sorry, Buck, I do
Speaker 1: think I think looks it has to be very clear
Speaker 1: and concise who you are. Like it can be that
Speaker 1: mission statement that Derek is alluded to that you guys
Speaker 1: are saying, It can be a seventy word quote that
Speaker 1: Jalen throws out. It has to be very clear because
Speaker 1: even without deck, if you're a tough, hard nosed, physical
Speaker 1: football team, that has nothing to do with your personnel.
Speaker 1: That has everything to do with the mentality that everybody
Speaker 1: on the team has to have. And so if you
Speaker 1: talk about our guys are tough, hard nosed and competitive,
Speaker 1: then you should be able to see that regardless of
Speaker 1: how you have to play, you can be a tough
Speaker 1: team and still have to throw it around the yard
Speaker 1: because your players exhibit that. And so I think this
Speaker 1: is one where Jerry Jones, the personnel staff, the coaching staff,
Speaker 1: everybody has to get in the room and say, this
Speaker 1: is who we are and the people that we bring
Speaker 1: into the organization they need to have these traits and
Speaker 1: then we'll figure out how we play. But this is
Speaker 1: who this team is. Yeah, you know. It actually reminds
Speaker 1: me of Bill Parcells when he was here. I remember
Speaker 1: him talking a lot about the fact that he wanted
Speaker 1: tough and smart players, and he was like it was
Speaker 1: it was very important to him to have smart players.
Speaker 1: I've heard the same thing about New England, like they're
Speaker 1: very they put a premium on smart players because what
Speaker 1: they ask them to do requires guys that aren't just
Speaker 1: like we're not just gonna tell you to line up
Speaker 1: and run to the ball like they're gonna be. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have to be smart and you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: be able to adapt and so be Having smart players
Speaker 1: is very important. That gets back to like, do you
Speaker 1: know what your identity is? Do you know what kinds
Speaker 1: of players you typically bring in that help make your
Speaker 1: program work? And I would assume I would assume knowing
Speaker 1: Will McClay, I would assume he has that and he
Speaker 1: understands like what they're looking for and what they're trying
Speaker 1: to create. I just don't know if it's translating on
Speaker 1: the field, that maybe the biggest problem here. That's why
Speaker 1: you don't change coaches every two or three years. You know,
Speaker 1: people people, You got to build some relationship between the
Speaker 1: coaching staff and the scouts, you know, I mean, because
Speaker 1: Will McClay can have what he wants this team to
Speaker 1: happen if the coaches aren't going to coach him. I'm there.
Speaker 1: You know. I thought when I think about that, I
Speaker 1: think about Rob Marinelli and Anthony Hitchins because I remember
Speaker 1: Anthony Hitchins was considered a reach pick fourth round. But
Speaker 1: that's exactly the guy that Marinelli wanted. A thumper, a
Speaker 1: guy that was a smart player and he was agile,
Speaker 1: but he could he could go and hit tough, big
Speaker 1: ten linebacker. It's what he wanted. And the other you know,
Speaker 1: I just remember some of the medias like you could
Speaker 1: have got him in the sixth round, Well, I don't
Speaker 1: want him in the sixth round, picking him right now,
Speaker 1: and he was a really good player. And so I
Speaker 1: just think that's an example of you know who what
Speaker 1: you're coaching staff wants, and that's why you need to
Speaker 1: build They need to build chemistry. That's why going to
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl matters. That's why going to the combine,
Speaker 1: these coaches and scouts te to kind of get together
Speaker 1: and really feel what each other is gonna want when
Speaker 1: they go in and they try to pick Yeah, when
Speaker 1: you mentioned continuity to me, but hey, hey, ned, but Nick,
Speaker 1: you say something? You saying something that really makes a
Speaker 1: lot of sense, And without being there, I can't really tell.
Speaker 1: Is Mike McCarthy able to clearly articulate exactly what he
Speaker 1: wants from the players on his team? And can he
Speaker 1: tell Will McClay, here's the kind of guys that I
Speaker 1: want on my team, Derek. When you talk about Bill
Speaker 1: Parcels being able to say I want smart, tough, physical
Speaker 1: football players, well, when you are able to define it
Speaker 1: like that as a scout, I can go and get
Speaker 1: you those guys. But if the head coach is wavering
Speaker 1: in terms of what I want, it makes it very
Speaker 1: very difficult to build a team that has a brand
Speaker 1: and an identity. And so some of this will be
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy has to stand up to everybody and say
Speaker 1: here's what I want, this is the kind of guy
Speaker 1: I need, this is a team that we're going to
Speaker 1: be and then Jerry Jones and everybody else has to say, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're on board. This is the kind of organization and
Speaker 1: team that we're gonna have. That's a very good point
Speaker 1: because it reminds reminds me of what I've heard scouts
Speaker 1: say about Jason Garrett. He never made up his mind
Speaker 1: like that happened a lot. Yeah, he would be like,
Speaker 1: I want this guy, want this guy. And there's there's
Speaker 1: a funny story about you know, I'm taking a running
Speaker 1: back one time when he was just like they wanted
Speaker 1: to Mircol Murray. They're gonna take to Mircael Murray one
Speaker 1: hundred percent Murray, he's the guy. And all of a
Speaker 1: sudden it gets the pick comes up and then Jason
Speaker 1: searchs wavering a little bit about Stephen Ridley from LSU,
Speaker 1: like do we take him? Do we not? And all
Speaker 1: of a sudden and it's like, you know that they
Speaker 1: were pissing off everybody. It's like this talk about talked
Speaker 1: about this, and I think that happened a lot. So
Speaker 1: I think what you're saying, BUCkies is important. That's the
Speaker 1: coaches really need to figure that out with their scouts,
Speaker 1: and you know, they haven't had a lot of time
Speaker 1: with that either scouts aren't even in the building. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah. It goes back to what you
Speaker 1: said Nick about contuity. Like I think if you look
Speaker 1: at the team in the NFL that represents this best
Speaker 1: that you would think anybody that watches the NFL, you
Speaker 1: ask them this team and they'll tell you exactly what
Speaker 1: the team's identity is. It's the Pittsburgh Steelers. And I
Speaker 1: don't think that's a coincidence that they've had the fewest
Speaker 1: number of coaches in the history of the NFL. Like,
Speaker 1: they don't change coaches very often, and when they do,
Speaker 1: they still keep their identity for some reason. Like that
Speaker 1: defense for a long time had this one defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: who was really great and they did a certain thing,
Speaker 1: and when he left, that defense kept doing the same
Speaker 1: thing and doing it exactly at the same level of confidence.
Speaker 1: Like they just know who they are and they continue
Speaker 1: being who they are over decades. I think the job
Speaker 1: interview for the Steelers head coach is like behind a
Speaker 1: parking lot in a fight. You win the then you're
Speaker 1: the coach, right, I ain't Bill Kawer could. It's a
Speaker 1: cage match. Yeah, Like everybody got in the cave got
Speaker 1: to win. I don't know about no, but I bet
Speaker 1: he could whip some ass back back in the no
Speaker 1: doubt about it. And and I mean I just don't
Speaker 1: want Bill Cower just look. I mean he just was
Speaker 1: like rush a quarterback every time. I just think of
Speaker 1: that NFL films and he's like rush. So you just
Speaker 1: have you're right, they have, They've done it the right way. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you think the city of Pittsburgh would want him?
Speaker 1: Me there if you if you weren't that well yeah,
Speaker 1: and it fits like again, it also fits the city
Speaker 1: like everything about That's why the works. That's why the
Speaker 1: rivalry in the seventies was so great because all over
Speaker 1: the world, not just Dallas in Pittsburgh, these are the
Speaker 1: two great teams in the seventies. Pick your team wherever
Speaker 1: you are. You're living in Carolina, there's no team at
Speaker 1: the time. Pick a team, you know, do you want
Speaker 1: to be this type of team or do you want
Speaker 1: the good teams? And it all it was all perfect. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's all perfect. All right, we're gonna take our first break.
Speaker 1: So no, I was gonna say that. And so there
Speaker 1: is something too that, right, the Cowboys in my mind,
Speaker 1: it's about the glitz and glam, the smart and the sophistication.
Speaker 1: So in my mind, the brand is that it's smart,
Speaker 1: it's glitzy, it's sophisticated, and if you're not dead, you
Speaker 1: can't understand it. And so it's how can I take
Speaker 1: that and articulated in football terms, So that would be multiplicity.
Speaker 1: It would be smart players that can do a lot.
Speaker 1: Just think about those Tom Landry teams. It should never change.
Speaker 1: That's how the Cowboys should be in my mind. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: as we sit in our glitzy, one hundred million dollar
Speaker 1: building in Sorry, Like that's just what it is. That's
Speaker 1: the brand. But my question, I think that the bigger
Speaker 1: part to that is is that what the football team is.
Speaker 1: Because in the nineties they got away with doing that.
Speaker 1: They kick your butt on the field, but then they
Speaker 1: come up to feel put on their minks like it
Speaker 1: was it was they had the whole thing working and
Speaker 1: and I don't know that I don't know that they're
Speaker 1: doing that now, Like they got some guys that love
Speaker 1: to wear the minks. Now, I don't know if they're
Speaker 1: kicking your butt on the field, that's the problem. All right,
Speaker 1: we'renna take our first break. When we come back, We're
Speaker 1: gonna have Bucky talk a little bit about this New
Speaker 1: York Giants offense versus the Cowboys defensive. That woman come back.
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Speaker 1: year on road games where you're at the Star, where
Speaker 1: not at the We don't travel to games and nickte
Speaker 1: anyone blessed enough to be able to do that? That
Speaker 1: being said, I don't know. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: a blessing. That being said, first real problem said, we
Speaker 1: always get food, bring food to the Star for everyone
Speaker 1: to eat. Should we this week use food from the stadium,
Speaker 1: bring it out to the Star and make that our food? Yes? Okay, good, perfect,
Speaker 1: I don't do a wonderful idea Rocks get on that.
Speaker 1: Can we get the Cowboy rita delivered or do we
Speaker 1: have like you know, it's the final game, final, let's go,
Speaker 1: let's park. Yes, go to the stadium and watch it
Speaker 1: on the big board the way the radio team does.
Speaker 1: That's actually they're long drive. It's not a long drive
Speaker 1: for me Wednesday. You're talking about long drive. But you
Speaker 1: want your food coming from there, they'll bring it, they'll
Speaker 1: be fine. Yeah, No, it's an hour drive. I don't
Speaker 1: want to do an hour drive. Good, but you want
Speaker 1: to go an hour? Yeah, we'll make it work. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll work. That's good. All right. We got Bucky Brooks
Speaker 1: joining us. He is from NFL Network and this segment
Speaker 1: is presented by Texico with techron Bucky. Let's start first, Well,
Speaker 1: we normally start what is the greatest strength and weakness
Speaker 1: of this New York offense and particularly hone in on
Speaker 1: things that may have changed since the last time the
Speaker 1: Cowboys played them. I would say the biggest thing that
Speaker 1: has changed has been the emergence of Wayne Gallman. Wayne
Speaker 1: Goldman has kind of given them an explosive run in
Speaker 1: the backfield. He has been creative and dynamic at certain points,
Speaker 1: he has shown some toughness when they've given him an
Speaker 1: opportunity to grind it out, and so that has been
Speaker 1: the biggest thing. Now of late, they haven't been able
Speaker 1: to score many points. They're still kind of struggling a
Speaker 1: little bit when it comes to the passing game. Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones is up and down. Some of it has been
Speaker 1: due to injury, some of it is just part of
Speaker 1: his matturation as a quarterback. And then they've had to
Speaker 1: deal with injuries. So you've seen Colt McCoy in the lineup,
Speaker 1: You've seen Daniel Jones in the lineup, and so they
Speaker 1: just haven't had the consistency and coninuity at quarterback and
Speaker 1: that has impacted the way that they're able to move
Speaker 1: the ball. But they still have some good players. Darius
Speaker 1: Slayton is still someone that you have to pay attention to,
Speaker 1: but really it's about Wayne Goldman, It's about Darius Slayton
Speaker 1: and then contributions from other guys. But it's a very
Speaker 1: inconsistent offense. Bucky. You know, the Cowboys actually ironically did
Speaker 1: a pretty good job with Jalen Hurtz's running ability. But
Speaker 1: I think would all agree that a running quarterback. It
Speaker 1: could be problematic for this team. We saw Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: give them fits. Daniel Jones. His injuries have all been
Speaker 1: leg related. I think he has an ankle and a hamstring,
Speaker 1: and I'm just curious, Will does he have his mobility
Speaker 1: like can't? I mean, you know, he's deceptively athletic. He
Speaker 1: had that eighty yard run against Philly earlier in the season.
Speaker 1: I mean, does he have that part of his game
Speaker 1: at this point with the injuries that he's been dealing with.
Speaker 1: I mean, he still can move around, but he's limited, right,
Speaker 1: he had to hamstring. Then he's has some lower leg
Speaker 1: injuries that have prevented him from being as dynamic as
Speaker 1: he was earlier in the season. But he's still someone
Speaker 1: that you have to pay attention to. He still has
Speaker 1: the ability on occasion to pour the ball on his
Speaker 1: own read to make you defend all eleven on the field,
Speaker 1: and so you have to be mindful of that. You
Speaker 1: still have to be very disciplined when it comes to
Speaker 1: defending those plays. But he's certainly not the Lamar Jackson type.
Speaker 1: He's not hurts in terms of what you come in
Speaker 1: thinking about spying and doing those things. But yeah, you
Speaker 1: have to be aware of him and him pulling the
Speaker 1: ball out the backfield. And also because of the nature
Speaker 1: of this game, the winner go home nature of the game,
Speaker 1: you have to be prepared for anything. And I think
Speaker 1: if you're the Giants and you've been struggling putting points
Speaker 1: on the board, I think this is when Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: has to dig deep into his bag of tricks and
Speaker 1: utilize every possible concept that he can use to see
Speaker 1: if he can put some points on the board. So
Speaker 1: I would be prepared for Daniel Jones to be moping
Speaker 1: and active on a perimeter, still pissed off that he
Speaker 1: ran a fleet flicker and he didn't do it for
Speaker 1: ten years while he was here. I hope he does
Speaker 1: it Sunday just for you. I was gonna I was
Speaker 1: gonna piss you up. I was about to say, like,
Speaker 1: does Jason Garrett have a bag of tricks? Like is
Speaker 1: that thing? Is that a thing that might be this week?
Speaker 1: I think I think Jason Garrett, like outside of the
Speaker 1: box is putting Jordan Lewis on like a fly sweep,
Speaker 1: you know, putting him. That's my point. Yeah, Like Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett's like, we gotta dig deep, guys, we're gonna do
Speaker 1: an end around Like that's okay, Thanks jakeson real hardcount.
Speaker 1: My question to you, Bucky, is is Evan Ingram the
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith of the Giants, the guy that you're like,
Speaker 1: great talent, you think you think he's gonna do this,
Speaker 1: one minute, does this, and then he's just a kind
Speaker 1: of a head scratching like what is he like? Is he?
Speaker 1: Is he good? That's that's what I'm asking. Is he good?
Speaker 1: I know he's going to the Pro Bowl, but is
Speaker 1: he good? I would say, I would say he's talented,
Speaker 1: but I don't know if they've really figured out the
Speaker 1: key to unlocking what he could be at the next level.
Speaker 1: And I think really getting a tied in loose and
Speaker 1: making him productive is a challenge and it takes a
Speaker 1: creative play call to do it. When you look at
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, you look at Darren Waller, their play calls
Speaker 1: do great things by play design to make sure that
Speaker 1: they get those matchups. I don't know if Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: has done a good enough job of trying to create
Speaker 1: those opportunities for Evan Ingram in terms of on his
Speaker 1: playsheets saying I have ten different plays that are designed
Speaker 1: specifically to get him the rock. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he operates like that. Now that's it. Who knows one
Speaker 1: game scenario. He may look at the matchups and say,
Speaker 1: I like Evan Ingram on Jaylen Smith or the safety
Speaker 1: dropping down Donovan Wilson, and let's see if we can
Speaker 1: find a way to get them open. It just hasn't
Speaker 1: happened to this point. And some of that is on
Speaker 1: play call of some of that is on Evan Ingram
Speaker 1: not cashing him on certain opportunities, and some of that
Speaker 1: is the quarterback not being able to get the ball
Speaker 1: to him consistently. All right, Bucky, let's talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about this New York Giant run offense. They ran
Speaker 1: the ball really well while they were on their four
Speaker 1: game win streak Versus teams with weaker rush defenses, as
Speaker 1: you would probably call the Cowboys. They average one hundred
Speaker 1: sixty two yards per games, and that the one hundred
Speaker 1: and ninety yard rushing day against Seattle. How susceptible based
Speaker 1: on what you've seen from Dallas's defense over the last
Speaker 1: several weeks, where it seems like they've been at least
Speaker 1: marginally better against the run. How susceptible are or is
Speaker 1: Dallas to getting dashed by the run? Game from New York, Well,
Speaker 1: I think can go back to the first game. I
Speaker 1: think I sat here and talked about, Oh, they don't
Speaker 1: have any weapons, I don't know how they can move
Speaker 1: the ball, And then we looked at the game DeVante
Speaker 1: Freeman was running up and down the field. And so
Speaker 1: I think the first thing the Giants are going to
Speaker 1: do is they're going to test them with the old
Speaker 1: game plan and see if the Cowboys have answered the
Speaker 1: problems that presented themselves in that game. And then they're
Speaker 1: going to look at some of the success that the
Speaker 1: Washington football team had, some of the sets that the
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens have had, and they're going to try within
Speaker 1: the framework of their offense to see if the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have resolved those issues, and if they hadn't, they will
Speaker 1: get a steady dose of those kinds of plays. Now.
Speaker 1: If Dallas is able to stop the run early in
Speaker 1: the game the first and second quarter, within the Jason
Speaker 1: move on and try and do something else and try
Speaker 1: and find another way to move the ball down the field.
Speaker 1: But I do believe this is going to be a
Speaker 1: game where the Giants really test them with the running game,
Speaker 1: and I think Joe Judge is going to implore David
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett to be disciplined and patient with the run
Speaker 1: game and see if they can wear them down as
Speaker 1: long as their def can keep the Cowboys offense under control. Yeah,
Speaker 1: real quick. As a follow up question, you saw it
Speaker 1: last week against the Eagles. They put up one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty yards on the ground. My personal belief is
Speaker 1: at the Eagles of abandon the run too early, like
Speaker 1: they were having success, and in the second half they
Speaker 1: didn't do it as much. Is that how you saw it?
Speaker 1: Do you think the Dallas defense gave them reason to
Speaker 1: abandon it because they felt like at some point they
Speaker 1: couldn't really run as effectively. No. I think Doug Peterson
Speaker 1: just got bored with the running game decided he wanted
Speaker 1: to throw it all over the yard. The running game
Speaker 1: was very effective, Miles Sanders was having success, Jalen Hurst
Speaker 1: was having success, and so it comes down to are
Speaker 1: you patient enough to continue to test the Cowboys run
Speaker 1: defense over time? And if Jason Garrett and Joe Judge
Speaker 1: are smart, that's what they would do, because I think
Speaker 1: in this game. For the Giants, they just want to
Speaker 1: get this game into the fourth quarter and see if
Speaker 1: the Cowboys will unravel on defense and also offensively, because
Speaker 1: we've seen that happen during the middle of the season.
Speaker 1: We've seen that happen at times, and so if I'm
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett, I want to call a very conservative game
Speaker 1: as long as their defense is holding up, to see
Speaker 1: if we can get it in the fourth quarter, and
Speaker 1: then let's just make it a fifteen minute battle and
Speaker 1: see if the turnovers and the mistakes will show up
Speaker 1: under pressure. Win. It's really the biggest game of the year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Jason can probably handle that for you. I
Speaker 1: think Bucky just described the Jason Garrett, let's get let's
Speaker 1: play conservative and get this into the fourth quarter. That's
Speaker 1: what he does. At um. I mean, we're talking so much.
Speaker 1: It's true, we're talking so much about this run game,
Speaker 1: and it makes me wonder. I mean, you know, the
Speaker 1: Giants offensive line has been viewed as a week spot
Speaker 1: for years at this point, and you know they famously
Speaker 1: you know, they fired Mark Colombo a month or two ago.
Speaker 1: You know, who knows what actually happened there. But I mean,
Speaker 1: has that sparked him. Is Andrew Thomas playing like a
Speaker 1: top five pick all of a sudden? Where where is
Speaker 1: this coming from? That they have the offensive line to
Speaker 1: be able to grig things out on the ground like this.
Speaker 1: I mean like they've been very inconsistent in what you had.
Speaker 1: In the bigger issue that you had with the Giants,
Speaker 1: you had two differing philosophies. You had Joe Judge who
Speaker 1: was coming from the New England Patriots system and how
Speaker 1: they block things and how they answered certain problems that
Speaker 1: would come up in pass protection and in the running game.
Speaker 1: And then you had Jason Garrett and Mark Colombo who
Speaker 1: had a different view on those things, and sometimes things
Speaker 1: would get lost in translation when it came to communication,
Speaker 1: how you want to handle things, and some of the
Speaker 1: techniques that were taught. They've cleaned it up. They've been
Speaker 1: a little more detailed, and they've had some success running
Speaker 1: it because they really didn't have a choice with who
Speaker 1: they had at quarterback, so they just stubbornly kept running
Speaker 1: it and had a little level of success. And so
Speaker 1: that's been the bigger thing. I can't sit here and
Speaker 1: say that the Giants of all of a sudden, mashing
Speaker 1: folks and moving people off the ball is just that
Speaker 1: in the games that they were very successful, they either
Speaker 1: popped a big run early or they were very very
Speaker 1: disciplined and committed to running the football. And so a
Speaker 1: lot of it will be determined on how are the
Speaker 1: Cowboys get a permitted to play. So when Jaylee Smith
Speaker 1: talks about being tough and physical in those things, well,
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys are on their p's and ques, then
Speaker 1: this will be the most physical game because they know
Speaker 1: the only way that jas can really manufacture points is
Speaker 1: if they're able to run the ball and dictate the terms.
Speaker 1: That way where they got to make the top priority
Speaker 1: just stopped to run and dare Daniel Jones to beat
Speaker 1: them through on the rock? All right? Beck, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: tired of the Giants offense. I can't do it anymore.
Speaker 1: They scored eight points a game the last three weeks.
Speaker 1: I don't have any other questions for you. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go to their defense, Cowboys defense. And you said and
Speaker 1: in your story that's coming out on maybe on the
Speaker 1: website now five bucks. Do you think Randy Gregory could
Speaker 1: be a star in the making. Can you elaborate on
Speaker 1: that a little bit? Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely, because when I
Speaker 1: look at Randy Gregory, and I'm gonna say this, like
Speaker 1: everyone was very excited about Alden Smith and what Alden
Speaker 1: Smith did early, Randy Gregory has surpassed Alden Smith in
Speaker 1: terms of his disruption and play. The first thing that
Speaker 1: stands out from Randy Gregory is and he is on
Speaker 1: the field. He is going one hundred miles an hour
Speaker 1: sideline to sideline his effort and energy and my estimation
Speaker 1: is infectious. I think it makes a difference because he's
Speaker 1: disruptive and even though they have him on what I
Speaker 1: would consider a limited pitch count, you look at what
Speaker 1: he's been able to do. Twelve quarterback hits, three forced fumbles,
Speaker 1: three and a half sacks, and limited action. He is
Speaker 1: coming on like gamebusters and he has been the compliment
Speaker 1: that they desperately needed opposite of de Marcus Lawrence. And
Speaker 1: so when I look at what the Cowboys could be
Speaker 1: presented not only this year but next year, sign signing
Speaker 1: him to the extension was smart because I think they're
Speaker 1: going to have to make a decision with Alden Smith
Speaker 1: on whether they want to pay to retain him. I
Speaker 1: think if it gets out of their price range. I
Speaker 1: think they very easily constid with Randy Gregory provided he
Speaker 1: has continued to do all the things off the field
Speaker 1: and say, hey, we're good. We don't have to reach
Speaker 1: in the draft to get a pass rusher. We don't
Speaker 1: have to overpay for someone that we still may be
Speaker 1: iffy on. Randy Gregory can be the play that we
Speaker 1: thought he was going to be when we took him
Speaker 1: from Nebraska. All Right, we're gonna tack our final break
Speaker 1: when we come back. We'll talk a little bit about
Speaker 1: this Dallas defense and some specific things that happened in
Speaker 1: the last game and how it may translate into this
Speaker 1: next upcoming game against the Giants. Will do that when
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Speaker 1: player jersey right now, by I'm buying Gallup. I'm all
Speaker 1: in on Gallup. That's risky, man, I don't care. I
Speaker 1: don't like what it's like. I always telp it. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't buy a jersey until the guy had a
Speaker 1: six year contract or if he just got drafted. That's
Speaker 1: also assuming that you want to wear it for the
Speaker 1: next twenty years, like I don't care about that. Just
Speaker 1: be buying it for now, Okay, money bags, Like if
Speaker 1: you're trying to if I'm spending one hundred plus on
Speaker 1: a jersey, I want to know the guy's going to
Speaker 1: be on the team for last two years, say how
Speaker 1: bad it is this year? For I think it was
Speaker 1: like Thanksgiving or something. I pulled down in jersey, brand
Speaker 1: new jersey for my son, took the tags off. It
Speaker 1: was DeMarcus Ware. I don't care, Like that's like, why not,
Speaker 1: let's go. DeMarcus Ware's a ring of honor kind of guy.
Speaker 1: That's that's true, true, But still like I mean, if
Speaker 1: he's your guy, he's your guy, and I don't care
Speaker 1: where he goes, where he plays or if he's still playing,
Speaker 1: if he's your guy. Really, I went the other day
Speaker 1: and there's on the clearance rack they had a bunch
Speaker 1: of jersey of former players and stuff, and no, they
Speaker 1: had like a like a forty beast league. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: game warn sorry, Oh he's doing big things though. Man,
Speaker 1: no I got I got a lot of it. He's
Speaker 1: doing his thing up there in Buffalo. You know, he
Speaker 1: actually said, boy, what's going on in Buffalo? The camaraderie
Speaker 1: and all this is nothing like well we had in
Speaker 1: Dallas and then we were like, all right, cool. They
Speaker 1: all say that it sounds like it's true though. It
Speaker 1: sounds like, you know, they're building something really great over there,
Speaker 1: and he's you know, they figured out a good way
Speaker 1: to use him too, And not that Dallas didn't, it's
Speaker 1: just that they've they've figured it out. It kind of works.
Speaker 1: I think for his personality too. He doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: the kind of guy that wants all the extra extra stuff.
Speaker 1: And here in Dallas, as we talked about earlier as
Speaker 1: a rap album man that we can use that term loosely,
Speaker 1: but you you just gotta you know, in Dallas, you
Speaker 1: gotta embrace all the extra attention. You gotta love the
Speaker 1: extra That's why Dez works in Dallas is because you
Speaker 1: gotta love the extra attention, because that's what Dallas is.
Speaker 1: It's gonna bring a lot of extra I believe that
Speaker 1: Daz actually hurt Beasley. I really agree with that, because
Speaker 1: Dez couldn't play in the slot and Beasley has to
Speaker 1: play in the slot, and because Dez was, well, you
Speaker 1: know that you need a guy that can play on
Speaker 1: the outside and you know exactly where. But when when
Speaker 1: Dez Dez couldn't be that guy all the time and
Speaker 1: Beasley couldn't be on the outside. I don't think they
Speaker 1: were great together for I will it's we talked about
Speaker 1: that at the start of the week. It's just funny.
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't we don't have one hundred percent
Speaker 1: know what we have in CD. I mean, like Nick's
Speaker 1: the only one that's met him. He deft, Yeah, in
Speaker 1: face to face for sure. Um, but it's weird. It's
Speaker 1: like CD's got some of that to him, like CDs
Speaker 1: you can tell. But Michael Gallup and Amari Cooper are
Speaker 1: not that. And they're like stars for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: They are not the They're not glitzie. I mean I
Speaker 1: actually think they actually like don't want all that. I
Speaker 1: mean Amari loves to stunt with his like you like
Speaker 1: outfits and stuff. You know, like he definitely has a
Speaker 1: taste for high fashion, but he is not Dez Brian
Speaker 1: in terms of just like wanting the spotlight on him
Speaker 1: at all times. Yeah, all right, real quick, before we
Speaker 1: end the show, I did want to talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about this Dallas defense had a question for you guys.
Speaker 1: In the first meeting, Dallas's defense allowed the second fewest
Speaker 1: yards of any game this season. That was three hundred.
Speaker 1: They had two hundred yards that they allowed in the
Speaker 1: passing game, eighty nine in the rushing game. Why was
Speaker 1: Dallas's defense so relatively successful against the Giants offense in
Speaker 1: the first meeting and can they replace replicate that success.
Speaker 1: Let's start first to you, Bucky. The Jazz didn't have
Speaker 1: a lot of weapons, and so I think they're easier
Speaker 1: to defend. But they're not a high powered unit. When
Speaker 1: you look at their wide receiver corps golden toa sterling shepherd.
Speaker 1: They don't really have anybody that scares you, and so
Speaker 1: I think it's easier to tighten down and take chances
Speaker 1: to make sure that you can stop the run when
Speaker 1: you don't have anyone that is someone in meetings that
Speaker 1: you have to stand up and say, hey, this guy
Speaker 1: can really hurt us. And so I just think it's
Speaker 1: the lack of talent that they have that enabled the
Speaker 1: Cowboys to really corral that that offense day. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean they don't have se Quon you know, their offensive
Speaker 1: line has been inconsistent all year. Evan Ingram Evan Ingram,
Speaker 1: we should be talking about him, is like that guy
Speaker 1: just kills the Cowboys, you know, like he should be
Speaker 1: but he's not for whatever reason. Don't really kill anybody. Yeah, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's yeah, Which that's that's a different conversation. But makes
Speaker 1: you wonder about Kyle Pitts, who is the guy that
Speaker 1: we talk a lot about, is like maybe fitting into
Speaker 1: the Cowboys draft slot, like drafting a guy like that
Speaker 1: in the first round and is a risky proposition. Um. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram's not that guy. They don't have se quon lines, Like,
Speaker 1: they just don't have anybody that scares you. And it's
Speaker 1: not completely their fault because of injuries. Um, but it does.
Speaker 1: That's why I asked about the offensive line because between
Speaker 1: Gallman and if the offensive line can play well enough
Speaker 1: that they can run, I think that changes things because
Speaker 1: I mean we've you know, if you can run the
Speaker 1: ball against the Cowboys, you have a good chance to win.
Speaker 1: And he has been better. I think he is better
Speaker 1: now than he was early in the season with the
Speaker 1: Cowboys facing Nick Well. I don't know if I understand
Speaker 1: the question, because I thought the Giants did move the
Speaker 1: ball well. I think you're just comparing it. I believe
Speaker 1: the Giants scored like two defensive touchdowns in that first game, too, right, didn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know they picked they like they picked
Speaker 1: off they picked six dack, I know that. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I think they scored another defensive touch or may maybe
Speaker 1: they got themselves to the dead of wins. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: can't remember. It was like it was like a ricochet
Speaker 1: off of somebody's hands. I think, oh, here you talk. Look, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember that. Yeah, the black back. And again this
Speaker 1: is all relative. They gave up three hundred yards of offense,
Speaker 1: Like that's not a huge day, and and the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have been giving them a lot more than that, so relatively,
Speaker 1: it's it was one of their better games as far
Speaker 1: as the yards that they were getting able on the
Speaker 1: ground and in the air. Yeah, I just I think
Speaker 1: they said, at best, the Giants just don't have anyone Nick.
Speaker 1: Cowboys had a couple of turnovers. One of them was
Speaker 1: a fumble down there by Andy Dalton that they scored.
Speaker 1: And then they I do remember that, right, So not
Speaker 1: two defensive not two defensive touchdowns, um, but they had
Speaker 1: one that set them up like right there inside them.
Speaker 1: And then pick out. We were able to match that
Speaker 1: one with Anthony Brown. So, um, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: it wasn't if it wasn't for Cam Fleming who was
Speaker 1: not set right, they had a fake field goal touchdown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but to every ingram yeah. Um, and you know, so
Speaker 1: that game could have been could have been different there.
Speaker 1: I think I think Bucky said the winner go home.
Speaker 1: You know, mentality, it's just you pull out all the stops.
Speaker 1: You see what you've got, you know. I mean Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore needs to dip in his bag too, see see
Speaker 1: what he's got, you know. I mean, and we have
Speaker 1: seen something that we forget about it. But the first
Speaker 1: play of the game that from the Cowboys. I'd never
Speaker 1: seen that play before, had you. Well, everybody rolls right
Speaker 1: and throws it way back to Mary Cooper. Oh no, yeah,
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen that play. That's Kellen Moore has a
Speaker 1: bag sometimes like he's gone a little too deep into
Speaker 1: it at times this year. Probably, No, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't need this. Well, oh Bucky does. Buck, He's like,
Speaker 1: what the hell are you doing? You have a fifth
Speaker 1: string offensive line? When but let me have the back,
Speaker 1: let me have the bag, Give me your bag, put
Speaker 1: your back down. Just just run it in run the balls.
Speaker 1: You know you always hurt. But they need that. They
Speaker 1: need a big fullback and they need to play in twine.
Speaker 1: Would Gallimore gallenmore was quick somebody like that. They need
Speaker 1: that guy on offense. His name is Blake Bell. I
Speaker 1: know we got to see we got to see the
Speaker 1: cool little sneak which is taking the lead by storm
Speaker 1: now by the way, yeah, I mean the Cowboys weren't
Speaker 1: the first ones to do it, but um, just like
Speaker 1: until Dak is healthy, like he would be my goal
Speaker 1: line guy. Like you're not stopping him from getting happening
Speaker 1: yard You're not gonna do it, you know I don't.
Speaker 1: And he's the dude played quarterback a lot, Like it's
Speaker 1: not like he did this, like he played like he
Speaker 1: started for ou for at least a year if not
Speaker 1: like two. Like he can take a snap, give him
Speaker 1: the ball, and here's that love to see happen. What
Speaker 1: I would love to see happen is and this is
Speaker 1: what I don't think the Cowboys do a good job
Speaker 1: of is take something and build off of it. So
Speaker 1: the Blake Bill play with a haven't line up at
Speaker 1: the center like now have him come back and instead
Speaker 1: of faking it, I mean, instead of trying to do
Speaker 1: a sneak, throw the ball over the top because the
Speaker 1: defense is gonna see him. Stop there, They're gonna all come.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be somebody open. Throw it over the top
Speaker 1: to a tight end and here we go, like I
Speaker 1: just tebow specialty. You know, it's like build off a thing.
Speaker 1: You know. You see the tight end going motion, just
Speaker 1: like laterally go in motion in front of the quarterback.
Speaker 1: As soon as he gets in front of the quarterback,
Speaker 1: snapped to let him catch it. There are things you
Speaker 1: can do with this, and Blake Bell is uniquely positioned
Speaker 1: to be able to play. He definitely is. We gave
Speaker 1: it more of a bad here, like stop it. We
Speaker 1: don't need more. Just give it to Zec and this
Speaker 1: shouldn't be that complicated. All right, guys, appreciate you join us.
Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow. We're gonna talk more about this
Speaker 1: Giants team. We'll talk about their defense tomorrow versus the
Speaker 1: Cowboys offense. Till then. For Nick Eatman, Dave Hellman, Bucky Brooks,
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. We'll be back tomorrow here live
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