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Speaker 2: Yes, that movie took me on a roller coaster ride.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. So I appreciate what Tyler Perry is doing

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Speaker 1: Hey bea fan. Welcome to the Brown Table. I can't

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Speaker 1: It feels like it's been a year and so much

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Speaker 1: to have another week with the BAFAM and we have

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Speaker 1: some incredible brand new faces. Last week I went ham.

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Speaker 1: from The Voxes explain it to me. Please be a fam.

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Speaker 1: After you listen to this episode, go catch up because

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Speaker 1: Naia Okay, okay, you say your name.

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Speaker 2: I have the Grio reporter, Yes, Anya Philogeen. I'm so

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Speaker 1: What a beautiful Anya religion. And we have Elizabeth Ayola Yes,

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Speaker 1: Aola Iola Yes from Nerve while it's Smart Money Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome ladies. Hi, how are you feeling? I already gave

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Speaker 1: you my little like might be cool, be cool with

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Speaker 4: I feel great. I feel great now we're good.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I feel pretty good too. I'm not a

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Speaker 4: So if we see her jitterating me, is.

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Speaker 1: That because you did your own braids? Are those microbraids?

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Speaker 3: I love small, long, but length braids. So it took

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Speaker 1: Right, he was a Uganda president movie?

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Speaker 3: And ain't nobody got time for that.

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Speaker 4: Every day it feels like halfway existential crisis, halfway like, oh,

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Speaker 3: Listen, listen. That's the conversation for another day.

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Speaker 1: But yesterday's turning into five and seven year olds poking

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Speaker 1: So yeah, only good things happened on the Silver Line.

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Speaker 3: It's complicated.

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth knows this. I tell people to quit like all

437
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Speaker 1: the time.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how to do that.

439
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Speaker 1: So it's kind of well, yeah, we love a pivot.

440
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Speaker 3: This is true period.

441
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Speaker 1: But actually having like real people humans, especially in the

442
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Speaker 1: age of bots two like writing content. So the way

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Speaker 1: that I found you, Anya was through your story on

444
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 1: basically like the Target boycott and what was coming next

445
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 1: and calls for black Americans. First of all, proud. I

446
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 1: don't know. You probably have to be like objective or

447
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 1: whatever as a journalist, but I don't have to because

448
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 1: it's my bob. So yeah, fuck Target. I don't shop

449
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 1: there anymore. I'll get sponsored by someone else. It's fine,

450
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 1: haven't shopped there in months. And I was interested because

451
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Speaker 1: I hadn't heard about the Dollar General boycott. So do

452
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 1: you cover a lot of like news about like the

453
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Speaker 1: retail backlash in this postdi attack era?

454
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Speaker 4: I thought people I cover a little bit of everything nowadays,

455
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 4: but my official title is lifestyle, So because of that,

456
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 4: like inn at the grio that encompasses a lot of

457
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 4: things beauty, fashion, business, culture, like all those things. So yes,

458
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 4: I've definitely found myself covering a lot of that, a

459
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 4: lot of people's reactions, and just as more and more

460
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,679
Speaker 4: details have come up in terms of like Target announcing

461
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 4: that like oh, they saw a decrease in foot traffic

462
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 4: and they are now warning their stakeholders about like hey,

463
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 4: this may be a thing that causes more of an

464
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Speaker 4: issue down the line. Those are things that I've definitely

465
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Speaker 4: been covering as well.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, hey, ba fam, We're going to take a

467
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 1: quick break, pay some bills, and we'll be right back.

468
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Speaker 1: All right, ba fam, We're back. So are we boycotting

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Speaker 1: Dollar General? Like what's happening?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

471
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Speaker 4: So yes, as a short answer, yes, long answer though,

472
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 4: it's a little bit more complicated, which I think, like personally, objectively,

473
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Speaker 4: I think this is a very.

474
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Speaker 2: Interesting approach to it.

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Speaker 4: So, as we know, Jamal Bryant, he leaded the forty

476
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Speaker 4: day Fast, the forty day target Fast, which became indefinite,

477
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Speaker 4: and he recently announced that he was doing that we

478
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Speaker 4: should be doing a Dollar General boycott in response to

479
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Speaker 4: the fact that Dollar General, despite black consumers making up

480
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Speaker 4: their main market and then also being in a lot

481
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Speaker 4: of black communities, black neighborhoods. There's apparently there's like a

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Speaker 4: Dollar General in like five miles of seventy five percent

483
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Speaker 4: of American neighborhoods. So Dollar General is everywhere, but they

484
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 4: hold back on their DEI initiatives and their practices and

485
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Speaker 4: have not necessarily been serving the key demographics that.

486
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Speaker 2: Have been giving them money.

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Speaker 4: So because of that, Jamal Bryant announced a Dollar General boycott.

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Speaker 4: But the like, I think the caveat in there that

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Speaker 4: I really appreciated is the fact that he acknowledged that

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Speaker 4: Dollar Generals, a lot of them feed into food deserts, right,

491
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Speaker 4: and they are in for a lot of communities, dollar

492
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Speaker 4: General is the only place they can go to to

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Speaker 4: get produced, to get groceries, whether that is because of

494
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Speaker 4: economic challenges or because of the simple fact that there

495
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Speaker 4: are no grocery stores within a ten mile radius of

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Speaker 4: their house. So, with that being said, while he does

497
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Speaker 4: encourage people who do have other options to shop to

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Speaker 4: stop shopping at Dollar General, he is also like kind

499
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Speaker 4: of pushing for a more virtual protest as well, in

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Speaker 4: case like, if Dollar General is your only option to

501
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Speaker 4: shop there by all means you know, eat you can't starve,

502
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 4: but also encouraging on social media to you know, boycott,

503
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Speaker 4: highlighting the issues.

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Speaker 2: And what they are not doing, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, is that what it's like? We're part of Texas?

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Speaker 1: Are you? And Elizabeth? Who?

507
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Speaker 3: I'm in sugar Land. I'm in the suburbs.

508
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Speaker 1: See the little pops? I don't know. I can't pop

509
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Speaker 1: my lips like what.

510
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Speaker 3: You say every time.

511
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Speaker 1: That's a little like, I don't know. It's Nigeria and pop?

512
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Speaker 1: Oh me do it?

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Speaker 4: You know what?

514
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Speaker 3: I've been doing this all my life and let me

515
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Speaker 3: be about to tell a story. Honey, pop is happening?

516
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Speaker 1: Okay, but have you ever mastered it? I don't know

517
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Speaker 1: what's wrong with me.

518
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 3: I don't even realize I'm doing it.

519
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Speaker 1: So since my Wisconsin, my background, my cousin's librarian, and

520
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 1: she does it so good? You just remember. But go ahead,

521
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Speaker 1: go ahead. Sugar Land, sugar baby, Where do you live?

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Speaker 3: Sugar Land?

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's such sugar Land? Okay? So is it like?

524
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Speaker 1: What's it like out there in the burbs?

525
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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: Is dollar General as big as it is? I feel

527
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Speaker 1: like in Georgia, dollars like on the way to my

528
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Speaker 1: dad's house, and he lives in south of Atlanta, and

529
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Speaker 1: on the way to the Publics, which is like the

530
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Speaker 1: big supermarket, there are two dollar generals. So really and

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Speaker 1: truly he is, like I think, in that demographic, and

532
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Speaker 1: he loves him a dollar general.

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Speaker 3: Ask you all are talking. I just thought to myself,

534
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Speaker 3: when is he from the last time I've been to

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Speaker 3: a dollar dollar general. So to answer your question in

536
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Speaker 3: my area, I do, honey, I'm not I'm not boogie.

537
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 3: I like to save a dollar two.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Americans are like London's posh.

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Speaker 3: I know, honey. Okay, Look, Linday has so many ghettos.

540
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 3: I grew up right next to them.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 3: He please, Okay, yeah, but no, there are not many

543
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Speaker 3: dollar generals near me. There are dollar trees, but not

544
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Speaker 3: many dollar generals. And I go up in the dollar tree,

545
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Speaker 3: you know, when I need to get a little balloon

546
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Speaker 3: or you know, some batteries or something.

547
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Speaker 1: For cheese, sell cheap hot wheels tracks if your kids

548
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Speaker 1: into that.

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Speaker 3: Oh he was, but now the iPad has taken over,

550
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Speaker 3: so I don't know, I know, but I only let

551
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 3: him use it on the weekends. But still all week.

552
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 3: He's fantasizing about that.

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00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: I oh, really and truly well that I'm I'm first

554
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: of all, I'm just like I'm listening to you, Anya,

555
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: But I'm also like, god, damn, did I sound that

556
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: eloquent when I was three years out of school?

557
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 3: I know?

558
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: Thank you.

559
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 1: Oh you're just explaining things, remembering people's name.

560
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: I appreciate that.

561
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: What do you? Okay? So I have to be I

562
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: wanted to talk to y'all. This is like way down

563
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: on my list of things I wanted to chat about.

564
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Speaker 1: But as you're talking, I was before earlier this afternoon,

565
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: before my dad called me and pissed me off, telling

566
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 1: me some health advice which he has no business giving me.

567
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: Just raises my blood pressure. He interrupted me. I was

568
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: trying to watch that new movie Straw with Taraji p Henson,

569
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: and I think Tayana Taylor's in it. I don't seen

570
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: that yet.

571
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 4: Yes?

572
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: Who was? Who said?

573
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 2: Yes?

574
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: I had you minimized on I'd seen it.

575
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 2: Yes, that movie. That movie took me on a roller

576
00:26:59,440 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: coaster ride.

577
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: Don't no spoilers. I only got like fifteen minutes in.

578
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: I won't spoil it.

579
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Speaker 1: I'm only at the part it's trust the shirt out

580
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: of me. I don't know if I want to keep watching, Like, oh,

581
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Speaker 1: I loved the first have you seen it? What, Elizabeth,

582
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: have you seen it yet? Well?

583
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Speaker 3: I have thoughts, So I went to go and watch it,

584
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,959
Speaker 3: and then I said, I'm not gonna do this.

585
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Speaker 1: So because you started it and you, like me, were like,

586
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Speaker 1: this is painful.

587
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Speaker 3: Thank you. So I appreciate what Tyler Perry is doing

588
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 3: in terms of amplifying black stories, in terms of paying

589
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 3: black women more, but I'm not gonna lie. I'm tired

590
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 3: of the struggling, troubled or yah, and as a single mother,

591
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to sit down and watch that trauma.

592
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 3: You know, Like, the world's stressful enough right now. I

593
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 3: don't need. I don't need to watch that. I don't

594
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 3: for what you know, So honestly, I probably am not

595
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 3: gonna watch it. I still think people should watch it

596
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 3: and support black films, and but for me personally, right now,

597
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 3: TV is an escapism for me for everything happening in

598
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 3: the world. I want to feel joyful when I watch things,

599
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 3: and it's too close to home. I am in many

600
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 3: mom groups and there are so many moms struggling. They

601
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 3: are struggling financially, they are struggling with their mental health,

602
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 3: They don't have any support. They are on the edge,

603
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: and I just don't want to see that on TV.

604
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 3: I don't. It's already happening all around me.

605
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Speaker 1: So thanks for putting words to what I was processing it.

606
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Speaker 1: And I was just I was like, I was in

607
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: this very same chair and just going in. It just

608
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: felt like my heart was being raked by hot coals.

609
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: Just because you have to watch her endure in the

610
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Speaker 1: first fifteen minutes, her child being taken away, her losing

611
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Speaker 1: her job. I think, I just I think I got

612
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: that far being denied at the bank, trying to Oh

613
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: that bank part pissed me off. She's like a heartbreaking

614
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: just all and it really is like it's like black

615
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: women struggle porn. Yes, and I feel like I know,

616
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: but it's been the number one movie on Netflix, apparently

617
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: all these headlines have come out. Who's watching it, though?

618
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: Are we?

619
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: That's a really good question, because I.

620
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: Think this is the kind of shit that people expect

621
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: our stories to be.

622
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 3: Thank you, and y'all see it every day, So why

623
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 3: y'all need to watch it on the TV screen? You know?

624
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 3: I signed up.

625
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: They don't see it every day for them, For like

626
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: people who don't look like us, this is like going

627
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: to the zoo, like, ooh, a wild African American, right, yeah.

628
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 3: Because it's like this makes me think of two incidents

629
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 3: where I've had recently where I just randomly meet you know,

630
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 3: white people out having small talk. And I was at

631
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 3: the museum the other day with the guy I'm dating,

632
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 3: and a white couple starts talking to us, and you know,

633
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: I mentioned that I'm a single mom and I have

634
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 3: a membership for the museum, and then she tells me

635
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 3: about this fancy restaurant and then she goes, that comes

636
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 3: with it, you get a discount with the membership, and

637
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 3: she goes, you know, but essentially because your single mom

638
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 3: might be expensive for you, so you can try the

639
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 3: cheaper one, basically the cafe with the you know, so

640
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 3: people already have stereotypes and you know about what black

641
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,719
Speaker 3: single mom's lives are, right, and it is real to

642
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 3: some extent, But we also don't need to keep perpetuating that,

643
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 3: you know, Like I mean sound you know.

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Speaker 1: I would have just been like, yeah, I'll mention that

645
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: on my very popular podcast Smart Money Nerd.

646
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Speaker 3: I am trying to do all that, but I might.

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00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: Listen. Sometimes you have to let them know, you do

648
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Speaker 2: have to kind.

649
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: Of point that out.

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Speaker 4: But I do think I think you have to a

651
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 4: good question about who is watching it, and I think

652
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Speaker 4: there are multiple types of viewers, because while I listen,

653
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Speaker 4: I fully agree and respect you Elizabeth for not finishing it,

654
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Speaker 4: because halfway through me and my friend were saying they

655
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Speaker 4: were like, why are we watching this? Why are we

656
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Speaker 4: putting ourselves through this? But we were too far in,

657
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 4: we were invested in the story at that point. We

658
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 4: had to make it through the end. Like I said,

659
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 4: emotional roller coaster. But I do think on one end,

660
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 4: Tyler Perry knows his audience, and I do think that

661
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 4: there are some people. While some of us are like

662
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 4: we need the escapism, there are some people who kind

663
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 4: of there's that emotional like that that feeling of seeing

664
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 4: yourself or seeing an experience that you recognize on screen,

665
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 4: that is almost I think cathartic might be the word

666
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 4: for that. That that's why they sit through it and

667
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 4: they watch it and it can almost be seen as

668
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 4: like a form of empowerment.

669
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 2: Almost.

670
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 4: Now I'm not saying that that is the case, for everyone,

671
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 4: but I respect those that are like, listen, these are

672
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 4: because there's been arguments about like, Okay, are we supposed

673
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 4: to sweep these stories under the rug? Just because we

674
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 4: know that it's a story, Does that mean we're not

675
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 4: supposed to broadcast it? You know, And there's that argument.

676
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 4: But then on the other end, you know, it's like,

677
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 4: why do we keep showing the same stories? I think

678
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 4: ultimately it's a testament to the fact that we need

679
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 4: different black storytellers in these spaces. We need a diverse

680
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 4: arrangement of variety, because we know the black experience is

681
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 4: not monolithic. So with that being said, we need the

682
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 4: Tyler Perry's to show to shine a light on that.

683
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 4: We need the Easter Race to shine a light on this,

684
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 4: We need the Ryan Coogler to shine a light on this,

685
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 4: and so on and so forth, and hopefully as time

686
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 4: goes on, we get more people that are doing that

687
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 4: at the level that we've seen Tyler Perry.

688
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 2: Do it at.

689
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 4: Because I can't deny that he's had a very interesting

690
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 4: and like almost unprecedented run in Hollywood and what he's

691
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 4: been able to do in craft within himself.

692
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I appreciate your perspective, I think, I mean,

693
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: that's what it's about. It's art, and it's like it's

694
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: really how it makes you individually feel. And also I

695
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,959
Speaker 1: didn't even I mean, of course, Tyler Perry, he always

696
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: becomes the We always have some form of this conversation

697
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: when one of his films comes out and people are like,

698
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: but we need him, And I wanted to talk to

699
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: you all because it feels like so Sherry Shepherd I

700
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: think was in the movie. She played the bank teller.

701
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: I think she anyway the bank manager, but the manager. Yeah,

702
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: so she's in the movie. And then of course, to

703
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: rogiph part of me is just like, why can't we

704
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: just when's the last time I saw to Roggie in

705
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: a role where she just gets to be like a

706
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: like not sense cookie, because she hasn't like I guess

707
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: sugar sugar, sugar averyan color purple, but like like she

708
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: doesn't get a lot of like the big, you know,

709
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: powerhouse roles where she gets to be you know, just

710
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: like a different, like you said, a different kind of

711
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: story of a black woman. But she deserves because she's

712
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: so I'm just tired of saying to Roggie and pain,

713
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: you know, like Yeah, that's also me, Like I love

714
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: her as a person so much, and she's such a

715
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: good actress, that's seeing her in that much pain, it

716
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: hurt me twice as much. I think in a way

717
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: that's probably really telling why do I care whatever?

718
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Speaker 3: You know, at the parallels, She's also was a single mom,

719
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 3: you know, for most of the time where she took

720
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 3: that movie right, So maybe that's why she's able to

721
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 3: embody it so well.

722
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, she did say that it wasn't

723
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 4: hard for her to like connect with the character because

724
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 4: she knew Jania's story, Like she's like, I recognize that story,

725
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 4: So I think that's a part of it. She also

726
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 4: ironically did an interview where she was saying, I can't

727
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 4: remember I can't remember what movie.

728
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: I can't remember what it was, But she.

729
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 4: Was working with a director who essentially asked her what

730
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 4: role she wanted to play. She picked the role of

731
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 4: a girl who is a little bit more quiet, and

732
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 4: the director was like, I'm glad you said that, because

733
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 4: your eyes tell the story. And like, because of that,

734
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 4: I think that may play a role into why we

735
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 4: don't see her like playing certain things or she's always

736
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 4: kind of in these like deep characters because she has

737
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 4: this really beautiful ability to just she matches you in

738
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 4: when when you're watching her, it's like, oh, this is

739
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 4: not to ROGI Beansen, this is Jania.

740
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 2: This is right.

741
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm watching the little girl to Raji and the adult

742
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: Toagi at the same time. Have you ever noticed that

743
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: Elizabeth being a mom? Like sometimes when I'm watching someone,

744
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: i just imagine them as a little kid.

745
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm like.

746
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: This person is just a baby, Like they were just

747
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: a baby going through all this.

748
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 3: I've been thinking that about my parents a lot lately,

749
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 3: you know, like they were once little kids.

750
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: And have their own story in our season of forgiving

751
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: them because they were just children.

752
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 4: Dear last night, Yeah, getting there.

753
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 3: Okay, It's been a flow, right, so as healing is

754
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 3: a roller coaster, So there are times where I'm like, oh,

755
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 3: this is great and where you know, and then there

756
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 3: are other times I'm like that was messed up.

757
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 1: So mm hmmm, yeah, we got to skip past the

758
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: whole Father's dave it all.

759
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

760
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: But the reason I brought up Sherrie is because I

761
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: think she was giving an interview and to Roji also

762
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: said this, like Tyler Perry was one of the first

763
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: directors to pay them really well as a filmmaker, and

764
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: that I love for them. They deserve to get those checks,

765
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? But I agree, I hope that,

766
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 1: Like when's Ava do Rene's next movie coming out? And

767
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: Gina what is it? Gina blythe Prince. She directed The

768
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: Women King and a bunch of other films, but she

769
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: has a new What is Gina doing? Oh, she's doing

770
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: The Children of Blood and Bone.

771
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 3: Oh, that's exciting.

772
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: That's like it's supposed to be. I think a dystopian

773
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: like it doesn't it's not a specific country in Africa,

774
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 1: but I think.

775
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 4: It's like it was inspired by Ebo culture, like the

776
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 4: author's Nigerian.

777
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: There's a lot of lore behind that.

778
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 3: But yes, yeah, I believe in touches on the religion

779
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: or practice. But I actually have the book at home

780
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 3: and I picked it up again. I've had it for

781
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: years and write age three. I like the audiobook, but

782
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 3: I heard it's good. Oh I can't do audiobook. I'm

783
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: so old school. I'd like to feel it and touch

784
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 3: it and underlie.

785
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: So I just put that back down. When you're not

786
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: interested in not novels are hard to get through well,

787
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: what are y'all? Oh, there's so much Okay, So another thing,

788
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: have y'all watched The Pit? Do you know that show

789
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: on HBO? No you don't, Okay, So that's also kind

790
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: of a hard to watch show. But just because I

791
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: want to talk about this, it's an incredible show. I

792
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: binged it. Well, I actually I couldn't binge it because

793
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: it was like coming out live in the winter. But

794
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: it's basically like Er but in today's age, and it's

795
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: an emergency room and it's the it's like a hyper

796
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: realistic twelve hour shift in well, yeah, in emergency room doctors.

797
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: And they have the lead actor he used to be

798
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 1: on ER. He's just like, you know, everyone's calling him there.

799
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,479
Speaker 1: You know, there's Zaddi or whatever. He's a new pagero

800
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: pascal because he's hot. He has a beerd he's a

801
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: white duty six to two because that's all you need

802
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: to do, be hot. But the cast, a supporting cast

803
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: there is. It's a super diverse. There's a South Asian actress.

804
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: They have Filipino Filipinas who are playing two nurses on

805
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: this or Scenary two like admin workers. They're not nurses,

806
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: but they like I forget what their exact roles is,

807
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: but they are there in the intake center. They have

808
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: just a super diverse I'm trying to think if they

809
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: have a black male doctor. I don't think I've seen one,

810
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: but they have this incredible black woman who plays one

811
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,479
Speaker 1: of the surgeons or one of the er doctors. It's

812
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: for me watching it, it was like a breath of

813
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: fresh air because it unfortunately having been in the hospital

814
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: with like family who's been sick in the past couple

815
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: of years, it felt like accurate to what a city

816
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 1: er looks like. And the show was a huge hit.

817
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,959
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but Variety magazine released a cover

818
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: their cover of some of the cast members and the

819
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: only three actors actresses on the cover were white actors.

820
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: Crazy only three Yeah, And they were like, we didn't

821
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: have enough room. That was literally their statement. Do we

822
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: need to.

823
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 3: Show them those covers where there are like fifty people

824
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 3: on the cover?

825
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 4: Right? If we got a Hollywood reporter does it every

826
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 4: year every year? The Hollywood reporters, like we did one.

827
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 1: Vogue, like every magazine every time a new Marvel movie

828
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: comes out, they fit all those superheroes on one page.

829
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: It's the comments was like, it's kind of ironic because

830
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: they're called variety. They got it should still happening. You

831
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 1: got nothing?

832
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 2: Are we gonna say the quiet Heart out loud?

833
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: You know? I mean I imagine opening that up as

834
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: their colleagues and just being like.

835
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 3: Where where was my invite?

836
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 1: Where did they get one?

837
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, are the colleagues even in the building?

838
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 4: Are the colleagues?

839
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: But those are the performances that I mean, I don't

840
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: want to of course, it's like, yeah, those actors are

841
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: very talented. I want to see if, like the other

842
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: actors have released a statement, because one of the actors

843
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: was like, it's such an honor to be on the cover,

844
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm upset that they didn't include our cast

845
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: mates in that case. Like I actually would be more

846
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 1: upset with the actors being on the cover for not

847
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: turning around and bringing my.

848
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: Colleague here, Like I worked with them hours every day

849
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 3: and you didn't say nothing.

850
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: Right, Like that's what you can do with your privilege.

851
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: Why didn't you thank you? That would be hell awkward

852
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: to go back if you knew that's.

853
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 3: What would hurt me the most. And then I got

854
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 3: to go to work with y'all the next day after

855
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 3: y'all had this little secret cover shoot without us.

856
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: Like, no, not cute? All right, well, thanks Variety for

857
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: absolutely giving us nothing. What have y'all read recently? Because

858
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: there's like, it feels like everything is so dark. What

859
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: is some like content? Movies, films, books that are like

860
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: actually bringing you joy these days? Bring in some levity?

861
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 3: Can I be honest with y'all. I, as much as

862
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 3: I work in the media and obviously I need to

863
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 3: be on top of the news, I have been finding

864
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 3: solace and shutting off and picking up hobby. So your

865
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 3: girl has a painting class today for two hours that

866
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 3: I'm trying. I have been painting, riding my bike and

867
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 3: to those are the things that are giving me joy

868
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 3: because I think online it can sometimes be over stimulating.

869
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, that is.

870
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: So not I mean, that is not a hot take.

871
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: It's like a healthy take. I'm glad to hear that.

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Speaker 1: I So you chose painting, Yeah, I chose planting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but how many do you have? You're a plant mom?

874
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, guys, I have to leave in one minute.

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Speaker 3: But how many do we have?

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Speaker 4: Do you have?

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Speaker 1: You do have to leave it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Oh? I thought you said one thirty pst.

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Speaker 3: Oh wait, what is Oh my god, no, what is

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Speaker 3: Texas time? I always mix up the time zone pst.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, I thought we had more time. I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 1: That's okay. You can jump off and I can hang

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Speaker 1: out with Anya. Well, was there anything that you wanted to,

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Speaker 1: like talk about specifically before we leave, anything wanted to

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Speaker 1: let us know? Anything you want to promote?

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Speaker 3: Hmm, that's tough. I feel like I'm being put on

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Speaker 3: the spot. Yeah, let me think.

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Speaker 1: When does Smart Money come out?

890
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Speaker 3: You can just say that, okay, yes, So you can

891
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 3: listen to Smart Money. We have episodes coming out twice

892
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 3: a week. One is Money News in case you want

893
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 3: to keep up to date with what's happening in the world,

894
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 3: So we give y'all a nice little spiel rather in

895
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 3: the financial world. And then we have another segment that

896
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 3: comes out during the week where you can listen to

897
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 3: us answer listeners money questions about different topics, whether it's mortgages, budgeting, saving,

898
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 3: anything under the sun, and you can learn something new,

899
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Speaker 3: So please tune in. And sometimes we tell our business too,

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Speaker 3: in case you need an incentive to come over.

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00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: So y'all do have a fun vibe. What's your co

902
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 1: host name, Scott.

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Speaker 3: No, Sean Piles, Okay, Clement, Yes, that's Sean Piles.

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Speaker 1: Chemistry. It's fun.

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Speaker 3: It is fun, So come and listen. And I am

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Speaker 3: a huge, huge, huge advocate of people trying to figure

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Speaker 3: out their money, trying to start investing. Please please, I

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Speaker 3: beg all my friends and family, even if you have

909
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Speaker 3: five dollars to invest, and if you need some convincing.

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Speaker 3: One of my weird hobbies is popping numbers into a

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Speaker 3: compound interest calculator. That changed my life. So compound interest

912
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Speaker 3: calculator will tell you that basically, if you invest five

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Speaker 3: dollars and your rate of return is a modest I

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Speaker 3: don't know, three percent or four percent, over the next

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Speaker 3: ten years, your money is going to grow to x amount.

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Speaker 3: So I feel like when you're able to see the

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Speaker 3: power of investing even a little bit of money and

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Speaker 3: how it can give you passive income, it might change

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00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 3: your mind about starting today. So invest what you can.

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Speaker 3: Future you is going to thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good reminder. Actually, I did have a

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Speaker 1: headline I was going to share that found and I

923
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: was shocked by this. But Americans are finally saving enough

924
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: for retirement brings me so much joy. However, before investing, yes,

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Speaker 1: but before I bounce, I would love to see the

926
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Speaker 1: breakdown of how many black and brown people and women

927
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Speaker 1: in that number are investing, because there's so many disparities

928
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Speaker 1: for those groups of people. But i'd love to see

929
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Speaker 1: more women and more people of color investing.

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Speaker 3: Me joy.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I know it's it's it's scary out here a

932
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Speaker 1: lot of Like I was surprised to hear that at

933
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Speaker 1: a time when I feel like what's happening in my

934
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Speaker 1: family group chat is like, you know, should I take

935
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Speaker 1: this money out? I've got some debt to pay off.

936
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Speaker 1: Should I take it for my CD? Should I take

937
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Speaker 1: it for my investment? Like that kind of conversation. So

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Speaker 1: I think it's good to point out there may be

939
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Speaker 1: some disparities there. But Elizabeth Ayula, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for joining us at the Brown Table.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. This was so fun.

942
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Speaker 1: All right, ba fan, We're gonna take a quick break

943
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: and be right back with more of the Brown Table.

944
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Speaker 1: I've got Anya Philagene from the Griot in the studio.

945
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Speaker 1: Be right back, Welcome back, be a fan. Let's get

946
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Speaker 1: back to the show, all right, Anya, NBA fan, Welcome

947
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Speaker 1: back the beautiful berated Elizabeth had to bounce because we

948
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Speaker 1: finally got our time zones figured out and she had

949
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Speaker 1: to go, which is but she'll come back on the

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Speaker 1: show hopefully. All right, Anya, We're gonna keep chatting. We

951
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: were just talking about the Variety magazine cover insanity and how, yeah,

952
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Speaker 1: just how those actors who were on the cover really

953
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Speaker 1: could have done something like should have used their power,

954
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Speaker 1: their their their privilege in that moment to at least

955
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Speaker 1: bring their sisters with them.

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Speaker 2: I agreed.

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Speaker 1: I agreed. Well, what else can we chat about? Well,

958
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Speaker 1: the No King's protest? Did you cover any of that?

959
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Speaker 2: Yes? And no.

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Speaker 4: That was one of those things where I was like

961
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Speaker 4: on call for the weekend, so I was like keeping

962
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Speaker 4: an eye out in case anything crazy happened.

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Speaker 2: Thankfully nothing did.

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Speaker 1: At least not in the DMV. Right, and we got

965
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Speaker 1: shot in Utah a couple and then someone got run over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I yes, I don't know. I don't know too

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Speaker 2: much about that, if I'm being honest.

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Speaker 1: No, please be honest, it's fine. I don't either. I

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Speaker 1: just saw, Yeah, I think one like they had a peacekeeper,

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Speaker 1: like probably like a volunteer peacekeeper at a protest in

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Speaker 1: Utah shot a person who was carrying a rifle and

972
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Speaker 1: like pointing it around and shot that person, but then

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Speaker 1: hit another protester, like an innocent protester and who unfortunately

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Speaker 1: passed away. And then I think in Virginia it was

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Speaker 1: there was a first of all, Instagram is like these

976
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Speaker 1: images maybe you know, disturbing to some and it's like,

977
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Speaker 1: why do we need to play the video of cars

978
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Speaker 1: ramming down people? Like why, to Elizabeth's points, stay off

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Speaker 1: the social media, Just turn it off, Go paint, go touch.

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Speaker 2: Grass, go water a plant.

981
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Speaker 1: But if you're at the grio, you don't necessarily get

982
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Speaker 1: the privilege of being unplugged right and being completely out

983
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Speaker 1: of tune with it. But yeah, so fortunately I guess

984
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Speaker 1: there wasn't a ton of upset or unrest, but you're

985
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Speaker 1: also having the I want to call it the parade

986
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Speaker 1: Trump he must not be named birthday parade military party.

987
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Speaker 1: The theme was US Army for his birthday party. And

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Speaker 1: what was that? Like?

989
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Speaker 2: I was not there.

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Speaker 4: I know all the streets in DC were shut down

991
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Speaker 4: essentially for miles and miles and miles, but from what

992
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Speaker 4: I did see, I don't think they met the anticipated

993
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Speaker 4: numbers that they thought they were going to see.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, but you know, Birthday Boy was probably cranky

995
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Speaker 1: about that. He does a lot his crowd sizes.

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Speaker 4: I heard, I heard, I heard, I saw little snippets

997
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Speaker 4: about that, But that's truly all I know.

998
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Speaker 2: That's one thing I fully tuned out of.

999
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, I saw you covered the cutest Well, okay,

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Speaker 1: he's an eighteen year old man. But there's this eighteen

1001
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Speaker 1: year old kid who's running for mayor in a town

1002
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Speaker 1: in Alabama.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was literally this morning.

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Speaker 1: Fairfield, Alabama. Yeah, so how did you find out about

1005
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: that story?

1006
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Speaker 4: Honestly, somebody dropped it in our slack and because I

1007
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Speaker 4: think Ben Crump had posted, he like reposted his story

1008
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Speaker 4: and his announcement and naturally came up on our timelines,

1009
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Speaker 4: and I was like.

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Speaker 1: Ben Crumb, attorney, Ben Crump is sort of a news source.

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00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: I see. I get a lot of my black news

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Speaker 1: first from Ben Crump. So shout out to him, right,

1013
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: and whoever is on his team and that madost good

1014
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: for a yes down for a repost. He's always like

1015
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Speaker 1: and I think people know and trust him so much.

1016
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Speaker 1: He's got that amount of power as they should because

1017
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Speaker 1: he is like a hero in so many ways. But yeah,

1018
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: he is an official, unofficial news source that I love.

1019
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 4: I agree, I love that. But yeah, very very cool story.

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Speaker 4: I think it's so commendable. Like he announced he made

1021
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 4: his mayor announcement like two weeks after he graduated from

1022
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Speaker 4: high school, and he's getting ready to start his freshman

1023
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Speaker 4: year of college. And I'm like, when I graduate from

1024
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Speaker 4: high school and I was about to start freshman year,

1025
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Speaker 4: I was thinking about a summer job so I could

1026
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Speaker 4: pay for all my clothes that I wanted for college,

1027
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Speaker 4: so I could look so cute and do all the things.

1028
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Speaker 1: So where did you work? Where did you work?

1029
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Speaker 4: I worked at Hollister for a while, and then I

1030
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Speaker 4: worked at Urban Outfitters.

1031
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Speaker 2: It was like a split summer type of situation.

1032
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Speaker 1: So, yeah, I was a retail girally couldn't trust myself

1033
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Speaker 1: at a bar or a restaurant.

1034
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I knew I didn't have the patience for a restaurant.

1035
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Speaker 2: I knew it.

1036
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Speaker 1: I was like, I love a bad story. Do you

1037
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: feel like you get to cover a lot of news

1038
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: that it's on the positive side or more of like honestly,

1039
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: you know, it feels like, I'm looking at your your bylines,

1040
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Speaker 1: I check out your stuff, and I'm like, Okay, it's

1041
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: like it's a good mix because it's pop culture, it

1042
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: doesn't feel so heavy.

1043
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Speaker 3: Probably.

1044
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

1045
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Speaker 4: I always tell people, I'm like, I cover more of

1046
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 4: the fun stuff than the doom and gloom, or I

1047
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 4: get to cover more of the fun stuff than people

1048
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 4: who have like more political beats and certain things like that.

1049
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: So I think it's a nice balance.

1050
00:49:55,600 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: You know, every now and it's political, you know, truly, Yeah,

1051
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,959
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, that's just how I feel like. There's

1052
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: that there's not really that disconnected. Politics is always lurking,

1053
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 1: you know. One of the things you got I want

1054
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: to talk I wanted to talk about was Ananda Lewis,

1055
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: the MTV former MTV VJ host who passed away from

1056
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Speaker 1: breast cancer. I saw that you had covered a little

1057
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Speaker 1: bit about her story. I had not been fought. I

1058
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: didn't know that she was ill, and honestly, I hadn't

1059
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: thought about this. You know, Ananda. Is it a Nanda

1060
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Speaker 1: or a Nanda?

1061
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Speaker 4: I think it's Ananda. I feel like everybody said Ananda,

1062
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 4: but I'm I'm not sure. I think it's a Nanda.

1063
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: Gotcha yeah, Ananda, I had not really I kuindn't remember her.

1064
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Speaker 1: I was trying to think, like, where did I see

1065
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: her in the last MTV VJ I remember? I mean,

1066
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Speaker 1: do you even know what an MTVBJ is?

1067
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Speaker 2: I do? I do?

1068
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Speaker 4: But that's because I will say I am an anomaly

1069
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Speaker 4: in the sense that I was one of those little

1070
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 4: kids that used to really love watching throwbacks and stuff

1071
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 4: that like all my older cousins used to know about.

1072
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 4: I was watching that, Like I would watch reruns of

1073
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 4: One of six and Park when Free and AJ were

1074
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Speaker 4: on there, Like I loved going into the archives. I

1075
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 4: was just a culture nerd from young.

1076
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Speaker 1: Oh that's amazing. They raised you right, yes, get your history. Well,

1077
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Speaker 1: but what was And so you know, I saw her

1078
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: story and I'm like, it's very sad. And you know,

1079
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Speaker 1: on this podcast we've covered breast cancer and all types

1080
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: of cancers in the black community and how it impacts

1081
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: us so much more. And part of the reason is

1082
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: like lack of preventative treatment, preventative care. And what was

1083
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: so disappointing and like sad to me is that apparently

1084
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Speaker 1: she knew that she was ill for a long time

1085
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: and had been completely like pushing away or pushing away

1086
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: from modern medicine. She wasn't interested. She was doing that

1087
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Speaker 1: like crunchy, like I'm gonna let my body heal itself.

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00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: My body knows what it's doing. I'm going to shrink

1089
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: the tumor myself kind of vibe. Didn't even get a

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Speaker 1: mammogram for years.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she took She had said that she wanted to

1092
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 4: take a more homeopathic approach to it and more natural

1093
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 4: approach to things. Where she was it's like she was

1094
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 4: doing nothing per se, But I know she took a

1095
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,959
Speaker 4: more like she's going to change her diet and she's

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00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 4: Her first step was like flushing out all the toxins

1097
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 4: and doing different treatments and things that are out there

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00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,760
Speaker 4: that are just designed to I think, cleanse your body

1099
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 4: more so than chemo and the traditional things that we

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00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 4: see in modern medicine. When you hear about cancer diagnosis,

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00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 4: ses diagnosis, yes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one of those, that's fine, right, but yeah, Yeah.

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00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: What was really chilling was in an interview where she's

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00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: explaining I don't know if you saw this or not,

1105
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: where she's explaining how her mom had been diagnosed with

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00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: breast cancer and how in her mind, the mammograms that

1107
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 1: her mom did dutifully all those years was the reason

1108
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: why she got breast cancer. And so that's what it

1109
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: led Ananda to eschue her own doctor's orders to get

1110
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: a you know, or doctor's recommendation to get a mammogram.

1111
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 1: So she didn't do that, but she did at least

1112
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: come out and say, I really regret it, Like that's

1113
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: one of my regrets. Is you know, maybe had I

1114
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: caught it sooner. Listen, I'm in my plant Girl era.

1115
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: I love I do. I was just talking to my

1116
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: dad too, my dad. I'm trying to like compartmentalize what's

1117
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: going on, but my dad actually is getting he's he

1118
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 1: has a big surgery tomorrow and it's all very exciting

1119
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: and it could change his life in a lot of

1120
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: great ways. But because his whole family, like my whole family,

1121
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: has had a ton of health issues because of the

1122
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: quality of diet and the misinformation around diet and exercise,

1123
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: and like we're talking about before, which is like the

1124
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: access to healthy foods in our communities is just so

1125
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: you know, it's getting better, but it's still there still

1126
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: are many food deserts. But like also the foods that

1127
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: are catered or targeted toward our communities, are specifically made

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00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: to be addicting and so hyper like flavored, Like what

1129
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: is the word that was in that study? Like, there

1130
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: was a study that came out that's like the ultra

1131
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: processed foods and how they are formulated so that we

1132
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: and because they are marketed I think to more our

1133
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: communities and more available to us, they become so addicting

1134
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: to us that we crave them. And like, as my

1135
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: dad's going into this life altering procedure tomorrow, he's like, yeah,

1136
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: I went down and got some chicken wings. I really

1137
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: wanted some chicken wings and some fried rice from the Chinese,

1138
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: you know. And I was like, d you kid? Yeah,

1139
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh man, no, literally, I'm staying at

1140
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: my playing girl era.

1141
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 4: It makes me think of that movie they cloned Tyrone,

1142
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 4: and I'm like, ever since that movie came out, do

1143
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 4: you see that movie?

1144
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 2: Complex? Oh?

1145
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 1: Is it good?

1146
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 4: It was good. It was not spoiler the plot, but

1147
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 4: it was like centered around chicken and the impact of

1148
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 4: this one chicken spot in a community, and it like,

1149
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 4: I'll leave it at that, but it was just kind

1150
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 4: of like that whole movie had me sitting and thinking like,

1151
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 4: maybe they are really putting something in the chicken, Maybe

1152
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 4: they really are putting something in the food, because it's

1153
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 4: a little scary. It gets a little scary when you

1154
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 4: think about it. But yeah, no, it was very It's

1155
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 4: very sad when you sit and think about some of

1156
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 4: the statistics surrounding our health and how it specifically impacts

1157
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 4: the black community. And it's not always like our fault

1158
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 4: per se. It'll literally be just like socioeconomic statuses, the

1159
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 4: way the cars were dealt, and you find yourself in

1160
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 4: these positions.

1161
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: So I just wrote it down. They cloned tyrone, They

1162
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: cloned tyrone. Yes, well, when I'm not with my plant babies, yes,

1163
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: I'll try and watch that. But I it's I was

1164
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: trying to. I have a five year old, and I

1165
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,959
Speaker 1: was trying to He's been actually eating vegetables and speak

1166
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: with them in the garden, which is really cute to see.

1167
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: He doesn't always like them. Usually he doesn't like them,

1168
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: and he's like, oh, it tastes he's chewing it. I'm like, well,

1169
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: at least he put it in his mouth. That's a wind, right,

1170
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: And I'm trying to help him understand that vegetables are

1171
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: never going to taste like French fries, like like they're

1172
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: never going to taste like a happy meal. They're gonna

1173
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: taste like dirt and earth and like they're gonna taste

1174
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: like I mean, that's not gonna be on the marketing plan.

1175
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: But like you ever had a beat, It tastes like dirt.

1176
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: It's earthy. You know, they say earthy because they want

1177
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: it to sound bougie, but it's dirt. And how vegetables

1178
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: like that's their flavor and you have to like learn

1179
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: to appreciate it for what it is, and how everything

1180
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: is not supposed to be like covered in everything bagel seasoning,

1181
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: and not that he would do that anyway, because don't

1182
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: let him see a fleck of peppery.

1183
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 2: Oh he doesn't like like anything.

1184
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: Oh, everything has to be invisible or in cookhetti sauce.

1185
00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: That's the trick. But it's hard because you know, we

1186
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 1: get these hyper like these foods that were made in

1187
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: labs to design to entice us and to satisfy us

1188
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 1: and tap into like those receptors, those joy receptors in

1189
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: our brain. And it's like and then you want us

1190
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: to have a turn up and be happy about it. Yeah, yeah,

1191
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: but yeah, we have to train ourselves to like that.

1192
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: Shit really might be a lost cause. But I don't know.

1193
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 4: No, I don't think so.

1194
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: I don't think his diet not in life. He's gonna survive,

1195
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: He'll be fine.

1196
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I mean listen, I don't know.

1197
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: Everything go great, pretty god, but yeah, like he's just

1198
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: so stuck in his ways for him, like eating healthier

1199
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: is having a six piece wing instead of a twelve

1200
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, Oh, win is.

1201
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 4: A window, right, you know we are slowly weaning off

1202
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 4: of it instead of like two million calories some million

1203
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 4: calories like slowly but chilly.

1204
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 2: That's how you gotta think about things, you know.

1205
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: All Right, Well, I want to take a little another

1206
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: quick break and I want to come back and will

1207
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: you join me for a brown brust brown break to

1208
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: close the show? Out of course, all rib i fam,

1209
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: we are back where you going to wrap up today's

1210
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: brown table. I want to excuse me. Thank our guest

1211
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Ayula again from Nerdwallet's Smart Money podcast, from joining

1212
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: us and Anaya nope, Anya Anya Philogeene from the Grio

1213
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: for also joining us today. All right, would you like

1214
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: to go first, madam, where would you like me to

1215
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: go first?

1216
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 2: Your choice, You go first, You set the precedent.

1217
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: Okay, great. So I am going to do a big

1218
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: boost today. And I want to preface this by saying

1219
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: that I really could have done a break but I

1220
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: feel like this was like more of a heavy topic

1221
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: show than I had cared for today. But I feel

1222
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: a lot of joy because my little community garden that

1223
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: I started. You don't know this, Anya unless you listen

1224
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: to the show. But anyway, I started this kind of

1225
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: like ghetto community garden with my neighbors where we just

1226
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: put garden beds. It's not ghetto, I just mean like

1227
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: completely una like not tied to any real initiative of

1228
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: community gardening. But I was like, we need to be

1229
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: growing our own produce, and I don't want to do

1230
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: it alone because I already have human children. Growing plants

1231
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: with by myself is just even more responsibility. But I

1232
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: got this local restaurant that had had shut down. I

1233
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: got them to donate the owner to donate a couple

1234
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: of like garden beds that he had out back that

1235
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: I had been seeing from the street. Because I'm a

1236
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: creeper and I was like, what are you going to

1237
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: do with those? I'm trying to grow. I'm trying to

1238
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: start a community garden. And luckily that's all it took.

1239
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: He was like, sure, take them. And we have all

1240
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: the herbs you can think of now. Our squash babies

1241
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: are growing, our tomatoes are growing. We have so much lettuce.

1242
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: I'm about to send an email to my community, to

1243
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: my my neighbors or texts later today being like, please

1244
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: come get some lettuce because it is so like I mean,

1245
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,479
Speaker 1: they're beautiful, but they are so freaking huge, and there's

1246
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: just too much lettuce and I cannot eat any more salad.

1247
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: I would love to be able. I just I can't

1248
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: beat you and leaves anymore. I've been to and leaves

1249
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: all day for days, Anya. But I'm just really proud

1250
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: of it, and I think it's it's just like very

1251
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: simple and you really don't need too much. And so

1252
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: now we share, we have like are we share a

1253
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: little tool shed, we share soil, we share plants. We're

1254
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: all like you know, and the kids kind of help

1255
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 1: out and they gather around and it's just very It

1256
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: is such a source of joy. So as much as

1257
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: I make fun of myself for being like that elder

1258
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: millennial who now is a gardening fanatic. It truly just

1259
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: touching dirt and touching leaves, and even if we never

1260
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 1: actually harvest anything, like if slugs come tomorrow and abolish

1261
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: our crop, like we'll just start again. And I think

1262
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: it really is about like the the experience of it

1263
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: and the nurturing of it and the investment of time.

1264
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: And it's become a form of meditation. And as I

1265
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: was talking to my dietician, I've been working with her

1266
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: because again family history of all the things. She and

1267
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: I were really just like working on my own perception

1268
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: of what healthy movement can be like and not doesn't

1269
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: have to be going to the gym. And how my

1270
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: garden has become our garden, i should say, has become

1271
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: like not just a source of like joy and peace,

1272
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 1: but also exercise and movement in a healthy way. And

1273
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: I'm just very proud. So this is your sign. If

1274
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 1: you're listening to ba fan, get you a pack of

1275
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 1: seeds and tell your neighbor to get a pack of seeds,

1276
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 1: implant something and see what happens.

1277
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 4: Guys, we need community now more than ever, So I

1278
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 4: love that.

1279
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it all.

1280
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 2: Right year turn Okay, be a fan. I've never done

1281
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 2: this before my boost right oh?

1282
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: Going positive? Okay? Good?

1283
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 4: Yes, I feel like we talked about so much negitive.

1284
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 4: There's so much taking in the world. Why would we

1285
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 4: Why would you seek into that? I think naturally, my

1286
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 4: boost is literally just tuning, tuning into my voice and

1287
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 4: finding my voice and the storytelling that I'm able to

1288
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 4: do through my work. But also like beyond work, I

1289
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 4: found myself tapping back into my creativity a lot more,

1290
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 4: having more fun on like Instagram and trying to bring

1291
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 4: the fun back to like social media and things and

1292
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 4: making it less serious or lace.

1293
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: Where are you doing TikTok dances? What are you doing?

1294
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 4: No? I So, I, like I said, new House trained

1295
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 4: us to be, you know, jack of all trades, all

1296
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 4: the things in Syracuse, and so I actually really have

1297
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 4: a love for graphic design. I love designing things, whether

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Speaker 4: it's like a flyer, whether like making an Instagram post

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Speaker 4: that looks really intricate or like reminds you of scrap book.

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Speaker 2: I've been leaning more into that a lot more, just

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Speaker 2: because it's fun.

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Speaker 4: It fuels that left side of my brain or whatever

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Speaker 4: side of the brain they say it is. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think that's been my thing, just fueling my creativity,

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Speaker 4: tapping into that a lot more, having whenever I have

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Speaker 4: that spurs that spark of inspiration, leaning into it and

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Speaker 4: just doing that. So I am going to boost creativity.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to boost finding your voice, whatever that may mean.

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Speaker 4: And for me, if you want to see more of

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Speaker 4: my voice, check me out at the graio dot com.

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Speaker 1: What are you.

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Speaker 2: At? Anya?

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Speaker 4: So the way you see my name on the screen,

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Speaker 4: put an ex king me right, I know it's I'm

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Speaker 4: so sorry.

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Speaker 1: Origin of the spelling.

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Speaker 4: Why it's actually Arabic. Yes, I have no Arabic backgrounds.

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Speaker 4: I am Haitian American.

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Speaker 2: But it means happy in Arabic.

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Speaker 4: And I had somebody actually like fully translated and tell

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Speaker 4: me that it's a very specific type of happiness where

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Speaker 4: it's like at the end of like a really dark tunnel,

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Speaker 4: like that joy you see.

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Speaker 2: That's what they say, Anya is Now.

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Speaker 1: If that is wrong, beautiful.

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Speaker 2: That's what an Arabic speaker told me.

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Speaker 1: So it's really with it if you believe it, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Amen? Amen?

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, like how I thought I was a I

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Speaker 1: thought my sign was different than I'm a Leo, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, wow, I am so what was it?

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Speaker 1: What's before Leo must have been a cancer or something.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, if you.

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Speaker 1: Believe that it's what will become true period. I believe

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Speaker 1: that it's a beautiful name. And shout out to your

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Speaker 1: parents for going outside the box because where it's the.

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Speaker 2: French listen, it's there, it's there, it's just not you know.

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Speaker 1: Well. Anya Phillageen from the Grio, thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: joining me at the Brown Table. I hope you'll come back.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't that bad?

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Speaker 2: No, I love this. I call me on some more podcasts.

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Speaker 1: I would love to Yeah, yeah, I mean, And if

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Speaker 1: you're working on anything, just feel free to shoot them over.

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Speaker 1: We can help amplify even if we just share on

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Speaker 1: the show. Or if you want to come back again

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Speaker 1: and talk about a big story that you that you're

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Speaker 1: working on. Promote your work. Get yourself out there and

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Speaker 1: thank you for sharing your your POV. You're light with

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Speaker 1: the ba Fam and we'll hope to see you soon.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, okay, va fam, I will see you on

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Speaker 1: for Friday for the ba QA. Don't forget. We are

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Speaker 1: on Patreon now you can join us put the link

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Speaker 1: in the show notes for you to join. You can

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Speaker 1: join free, but if you want to have access to

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Speaker 1: a live audience link so we can come to our

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Speaker 1: recording sessions. You want to join the paid version find

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Speaker 1: out all the kind of goodies we have going on,

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Speaker 1: so check the show notes for that and you can

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Speaker 1: hit me up at Mandy Money on ig and we

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Speaker 1: are also at Brown Ambition Podcast on all platforms until

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Speaker 1: next time. Bye bye, okay va fam. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for listening to this week's show. I want to

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Speaker 1: shout out to our production team, Courtney, our editor, Carla,

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Speaker 1: our fearless leader for idea to launch productions. I want

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Speaker 1: to shout out my assistant Lauda Escalante and Cameron McNair

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Speaker 1: for helping me put the show together. It is not

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Speaker 1: a one person project, as much as I have tried

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Speaker 1: to make it so these past ten years. I need help, y'all,

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Speaker 1: and thank goodness I've been able to put this team

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Speaker 1: around me to support me on this journey. And to y'all,

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Speaker 1: ba fam, I love you so so so so much.

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Speaker 1: Please rate, review, subscribe, make sure you sign up to

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Speaker 1: our ten year anniversary celebrations to come, and until next time,

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