Speaker 1: One hour two Sean Hennity Show, eight hundred and nine
Speaker 1: foot one Shawn, if you want to be a part
Speaker 1: of the program, if you're just joining us. The FBI
Speaker 1: released surveillance photos videos of a potential suspect and the
Speaker 1: investigation into the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, the mother of
Speaker 1: the co anchor of The Today Show, Savannah Guthrie. Four
Speaker 1: images depicting a person wearing gloves, mask, backpack appearing to
Speaker 1: tamper with the camera and cover up the recording that
Speaker 1: obviously they figured was going on. The FBI director Cash
Speaker 1: Pattel said the potential suspect is armed. The FBI said
Speaker 1: yesterday it had not identified any suspects or persons of interest,
Speaker 1: same with local law enforcement.
Speaker 2: Now. She's been missing since.
Speaker 1: She was dropped off outside of her home at her
Speaker 1: home outside of Tucson on the night of January thirty.
Speaker 1: First reported missing on February first. Today it is February tenth.
Speaker 1: We're in day ten now. The FBI has launched a
Speaker 1: web page with details about the disappearance. By the way,
Speaker 1: if you're in Tucson and listening to this program, though
Speaker 1: the Sheriff's Department is asking Tucson residents to keep the
Speaker 1: nine to one to one line open in case people
Speaker 1: have real emergencies. The FBI director Cash Bettel visited the
Speaker 1: Tucson command center in this case yesterday. The Guthrie family
Speaker 1: does not recognize the person in the surveillance images. They
Speaker 1: are asking the public for help if anybody can maybe
Speaker 1: have suspects that they might know who this person is.
Speaker 1: The President has weighed in on this. He saw the
Speaker 1: images the videos. His reaction was pure disgusted, according to
Speaker 1: Caroline Levitt, and also that the President again pledging his
Speaker 1: support for the family and offering all federal assistants. And
Speaker 1: you know, this is really the first break in the case.
Speaker 1: Savannah Guthrie posts the video said someone out there recognizes
Speaker 1: this person. And again, everybody, if you have any information,
Speaker 1: you know, call it in. What the videos show of
Speaker 1: the potential suspect images, you know, person wearing gloves, mask,
Speaker 1: khaki sneakers, backpack, appearing to tamper with the camera at
Speaker 1: the front door of the morning on the morning of
Speaker 1: the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie. The person's eyes are visible
Speaker 1: through the holes in the mask. The images and videos
Speaker 1: don't show a vehicle nearby, though it may be elsewhere
Speaker 1: on the street, and you know that's where we are
Speaker 1: at this particular time. But it's certainly the biggest break
Speaker 1: we've had in ten days. He had to break it
Speaker 1: all down and unpack all of this. Jason Pack retired
Speaker 1: FBI Supervisory special Agent and hostage nego negotiator. Nicole Parker's
Speaker 1: with Us, author of the bestseller of the two FBI
Speaker 1: is also a Box News contributor. Nicole's start with you,
Speaker 1: what do you glean from all of this today? I
Speaker 1: think the first breakthrough we've had. I think this may
Speaker 1: be what ultimately cracks the case, and I'm certainly hopeful
Speaker 1: that it does.
Speaker 3: I agree with you, Sean, this is monumental for this investigation,
Speaker 3: and this is what the gut three family has been
Speaker 3: waiting for.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 3: Up until today, it seemed like things were kind of
Speaker 3: stalling out with the ransom deadlines. Yesterday, nothing really seemed
Speaker 3: to be happening. But rest assured that behind the scenes,
Speaker 3: there's a lot more going on than we're aware of,
Speaker 3: and the FBI is going full force. And this video
Speaker 3: and these images, there will be someone who will watch
Speaker 3: this and say, look, I recognize that person I have
Speaker 3: to turn them in, and you do have to turn
Speaker 3: them in, and the tip line is eight hundred cll FBI.
Speaker 3: So right now the FBI is gathering obviously all of
Speaker 3: the tips coming in. But one thing that I think
Speaker 3: is very interesting is that there are people that the
Speaker 3: FBI had been looking at, I believe as potential persons
Speaker 3: of interests although they have not named a suspect. They
Speaker 3: have not named, you know, a person of interest. Obviously,
Speaker 3: right now I'm watching lives coverage, there are agents and
Speaker 3: investigators that are at Annie Guthrie's neighbor's home. Okay, I
Speaker 3: don't know that that's a coincidence, But what this does
Speaker 3: is now, whoever did this and their image is now
Speaker 3: has been seen by millions of people, and it will
Speaker 3: be seen by millions more. They're on notice the gig
Speaker 3: is up?
Speaker 2: They do do you think celebrate? Is what? Actually?
Speaker 1: This technology that we've been discussing, you know, since this happened,
Speaker 1: do you think that played a part in them able
Speaker 1: to being able to retrieve this video?
Speaker 3: So the private sector company, I'm not sure which one
Speaker 3: it was that they worked with the FBI, because originally
Speaker 3: they said, you know, we're not. The FBI didn't think
Speaker 3: that they were going to be able to get these images.
Speaker 3: But that's not going to work in this investigation. They're
Speaker 3: going to keep digging in deep. Celebrate is actually used
Speaker 3: to image cellular telephones, tablets, computers, things of that sort.
Speaker 3: So I think the actual image from this it may
Speaker 3: have been used because again it can be used to
Speaker 3: image doorbell cameras and things of that sort. But it
Speaker 3: really was the private corporation that worked with the FBI
Speaker 3: because originally they didn't think that they'd be able to
Speaker 3: obtain this. They didn't accept no as an answer, and
Speaker 3: they continue to get it because remember they said that
Speaker 3: she didn't have a paid subscription. Well, depending on the
Speaker 3: type of camera that she had, potentially I'm not sure
Speaker 3: in this instance, but you can get potentially three hours
Speaker 3: of feed without a subscription. Let's say if it was
Speaker 3: a Nest Aware Plus camera, but we don't know the
Speaker 3: exact detail of what it was, but let me tell
Speaker 3: you they celebrate. That's extremely crucial right now because remember
Speaker 3: they've imaged the devices, likely of the surrounding family members,
Speaker 3: those in her immediate contact. They're going to be going
Speaker 3: in and looking at communications and I just look at
Speaker 3: these images. Sean. I don't know about you, but those eyes,
Speaker 3: those are very telling. The eyebrows.
Speaker 2: I totally agree with you. So you know. I have
Speaker 2: my own theories.
Speaker 1: I'm going to keep them to myself for now, but
Speaker 1: I've got I would not be surprised if we have
Speaker 1: an arrest tonight or within the next twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised at all. And hopefully the
Speaker 1: recovery of Nancy Guthrie, I'm hoping and I'm not going
Speaker 1: to give up on that hope. Let me ask you,
Speaker 1: as a retired supervisory special agent and hostage negotiator, Jason,
Speaker 1: you know there was one FBI special agent's Lance Lessing
Speaker 1: I think is his name, based in Arizona. You know
Speaker 1: said in legitimate ransom case hidnappers usually move fast. They
Speaker 1: established leverage quickly, Communication begins within hours, not days of abduction,
Speaker 1: proof of life is produced early, and often the opposite
Speaker 1: happened here. As a professional hostage and a gootiator, you know,
Speaker 1: how Will, what is the best way to handle this.
Speaker 4: Well, Sean, I think the family handled it exactly correctly.
Speaker 4: You have to treat it like it's real, even though
Speaker 4: it doesn't fit any statistical patterns that may pop up.
Speaker 4: So the family did exactly the right thing. They worked
Speaker 4: with the FBI's crisis Negotiation Unit and the negotiators there
Speaker 4: from the Tucson ra to craft these messages to see
Speaker 4: if anybody would come back. And so when that didn't happen,
Speaker 4: as Nicole mentioned earlier, I've been on the work. I've
Speaker 4: been in these command posts where I've been the one
Speaker 4: working on these alternative theories and working on the not
Speaker 4: the shiny object that everybody else is pursuing, but these
Speaker 4: other alternative theories. And you've seen the results of that today.
Speaker 4: So just think if they would have waited to start
Speaker 4: doing that now, they haven't been. They've been working on
Speaker 4: it hard. And it sounds like that this has gone
Speaker 4: all the way to the FBI's computer scientists, and they
Speaker 4: it sounds like, I don't know if they're on the
Speaker 4: same workbench and they're at Google and the Nest company
Speaker 4: and trying to work with them to make sure to
Speaker 4: get the state out. But whatever they did, they found
Speaker 4: the proverbial needle in the haystack. It's actually remarkable work
Speaker 4: by the agents.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Nicole, have you been able to see
Speaker 1: what people have been doing online. And I can't affirm
Speaker 1: at one hundred percent, but they do reverse lighting and
Speaker 1: you get a much clearer image.
Speaker 2: Is that real?
Speaker 3: I believe that they'll be able to refine these images
Speaker 3: even more and I think that there's actually going to
Speaker 3: be even more evidence coming out. Remember that they took
Speaker 3: that camera off of the roof a few days after
Speaker 3: the fact, and so I do think that they'll be
Speaker 3: able to get it even more refined. But talking about
Speaker 3: the ransom emails, and I agree, I think that these
Speaker 3: ransoms are usually the more and more as times passing,
Speaker 3: I'm beginning to think it as a false flag. I'm
Speaker 3: beginning to think that the offender actually used that to
Speaker 3: distract law enforcement resources because the ransoms are usually very succinct.
Speaker 3: They're usually straightforward, and the directions are minimal, and those
Speaker 3: are the typical three key elements of a ransom, and
Speaker 3: we didn't see that in this. We saw the two
Speaker 3: tier deadline in between a Thursday and a Monday, and
Speaker 3: usually the ransom. You know, sometimes agrievance can be surmised
Speaker 3: from the ransom, not always, but the ransom states what
Speaker 3: the offender wants, how they want it and the timeframe
Speaker 3: which they have to act and they want it to
Speaker 3: move quickly. In this instance, they didn't want it to
Speaker 3: move quickly. It's as if the offender wanted more time
Speaker 3: to do what they needed to do. And if this
Speaker 3: was a false flag meaning that the offender was involved
Speaker 3: in the ransom email is starting to make sense now,
Speaker 3: or if it was just a full on hoax. But
Speaker 3: what we do know is that, based on our understanding,
Speaker 3: there was no ransom paid, and so it leads to.
Speaker 2: Best do we know that for sure?
Speaker 1: We know it wasn't paid to the original letters wallet
Speaker 1: their crypto wallet.
Speaker 3: Again, we don't know for certain because again TMZ received
Speaker 3: the first ransom email, they didn't receive the second. They
Speaker 3: had the wallet address for the first email. Potentially the
Speaker 3: second one may have had different instructions, but let's say
Speaker 3: that it was the first. Hypothetically speaking, those are public.
Speaker 3: The blockchain is public, like those transactions. That ledger is
Speaker 3: public to the person that knows the wallet address.
Speaker 1: And so to are not if they do transfer it
Speaker 1: within minutes, they could be transferring it and buying other
Speaker 1: crypto and selling it, and you know, they could be
Speaker 1: doing a million different things that would not be traceable
Speaker 1: at that point, am I right?
Speaker 3: Well, no, it would always have to hit the ledger though,
Speaker 3: that initial transaction to get to the six million dollars
Speaker 3: that they required in bitcoin, that would that would show
Speaker 3: up on the ledger.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Let me let me go back to this issue of
Speaker 1: hostage negotiation. I mean, give us examples of what usually
Speaker 1: happens in a hostage negotiation. Now, there are some people
Speaker 1: that called me and said, under no circumstances do they
Speaker 1: think anybody should ever pay? And I just flat out disagree.
Speaker 1: I think that's got to be an individualized decision. And
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, how would you live with yourself
Speaker 1: if you can afford to pay, or or raised the
Speaker 1: money to pay, and it ends up because you didn't say,
Speaker 1: they end up killing somebody. I don't know if I
Speaker 1: could live with myself, Jason, right, Sean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, Sean, It's absolutely correct. And these are
Speaker 4: transactional things people plan. People who do kidnappings for ransom
Speaker 4: want the money. They want to make it easy to communicate.
Speaker 4: They certainly do not go on national television or local
Speaker 4: TV stations with our ransom demand. They want to stay
Speaker 4: in control of that. They want to have a private
Speaker 4: line to the family so they can go back and
Speaker 4: forth and give that proof of life and get the
Speaker 4: ball rolling. As far as making, you know, making that transaction,
Speaker 4: we didn't see that here. I do want to point out, Sean,
Speaker 4: I was on the stage at the Boston Marathon bombing
Speaker 4: press conference. I flipped one of those posters over revealing
Speaker 4: black hat and white hat, and that next twenty four
Speaker 4: to forty eight hours after that photograph was out, there
Speaker 4: was super chaotic, and it's this is going to be
Speaker 4: the best chance that law enforcement has, that the FBI has,
Speaker 4: now that that subject's photos out there, to capture him.
Speaker 4: He's these likely, like Jole said, has seen himself on
Speaker 4: the news worldwide, on every phone, on every billboard, and
Speaker 4: now what does he do. He's got some decisions to make.
Speaker 4: If he knows where Miss Nancy is, does he move her,
Speaker 4: does he flee? What does he do? This puts a
Speaker 4: tremendous amount of pressure, and that's what law enforcement is
Speaker 4: counting on to make a mistake, to find this person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what everybody's hope is. Nicole, What do you
Speaker 2: want to add?
Speaker 3: You know, I kind of in law enforcement we talk
Speaker 3: a lot about tickling the wire, and that's what you
Speaker 3: kind of this is almost a form of tickling the wire,
Speaker 3: like we want the suspect to know, hey, we're on you,
Speaker 3: and we want to see how certain people respond. So again,
Speaker 3: law enforcements can be looking closely at the people and
Speaker 3: the guthries direct because I think everyone at this point
Speaker 3: we're not certain, but a lot of people agree that
Speaker 3: it's probably someone that knew Nancy, that was either close
Speaker 3: to her and her circle of close friends or contacts
Speaker 3: or even family members. So right now law enforcement is
Speaker 3: going to be seeing how certain people react the other thing.
Speaker 2: That they or maybe people that worked on the prey at.
Speaker 3: Some point, exactly a home care nurse, a pool cleaner,
Speaker 3: any of those things that were you know, home care workers.
Speaker 3: But again, John, it may not be the individual who
Speaker 3: potentially had a grievance. It could be that they paid
Speaker 3: someone to do it. I've worked murdered for higher cases.
Speaker 3: The actual person who orchestrates it may never have entered
Speaker 3: the crime scene. It could be the person with the issue,
Speaker 3: the offender could be on the scene, or it could
Speaker 3: be the offender with the grievance behind the scenes, conspiring
Speaker 3: and sending someone else in to do the dirty work,
Speaker 3: and so there's many layers of complex you know, complexity
Speaker 3: complexities here. But it's important to note that taking these
Speaker 3: images and the tips, and now they're going to comb
Speaker 3: it together and they're going to piece it with the
Speaker 3: technological artifacts and the evidence. They're going to look to
Speaker 3: see what cell phones were trying to connect to that router,
Speaker 3: that Wi Fi router. Were there any you know, people
Speaker 3: that were trying to connect their phone, you know, like
Speaker 3: when you go into a phone and says, would you
Speaker 3: like to connect to the Wi Fi? Was that happening
Speaker 3: between the hours that this individual within the home? How
Speaker 3: were they And these are types of things that law
Speaker 3: enforcement isn't giving to the public, but I guarantee you
Speaker 3: that's what's happening, and that the pacemaker, the pacemaker is huge.
Speaker 3: That pacemaker a sess but cannot take that outside of
Speaker 3: you know, it would take a lot of work for
Speaker 3: them to you know, disconnect the pacemaker inside of her body,
Speaker 3: whether the app was continuing to function or not. That
Speaker 3: pacemaker continues to work, and there's an app and there's
Speaker 3: a cloud, and there's a company that has all of
Speaker 3: that data, and I guarantee you the FBI is going
Speaker 3: through that very very closely.
Speaker 2: Would it give them the location?
Speaker 3: I think, I'm not I can't speak certain of that,
Speaker 3: but I believe if someone is alive, that pacemaker is
Speaker 3: going to continue to work, and if someone is not,
Speaker 3: that pacemaker is likely not going to continue to work.
Speaker 1: Okay, And we appreciate both of you. Jason Pack, thank you.
Speaker 1: Nicole Parker. We'll see you on TV tonight. We appreciate
Speaker 1: you both. All right, let's get to our busy phones.
Speaker 1: Let's say hi to Michael. He's in Saint Louis. Michael, Hi,
Speaker 1: how are you glad you called?
Speaker 5: Hey?
Speaker 6: I just wanted to say, Number one, thank you for
Speaker 6: all that you do.
Speaker 1: Love listen, thank you for letting me do it. I
Speaker 1: love doing what I do, and I'm blessed to do
Speaker 1: what I do.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well, anyway, I just wanted to say quickly because I
Speaker 6: know I'm on the radio. Despite any political you know,
Speaker 6: Savannah and this or that, I think we're blessed to
Speaker 6: live in a country that this rarely happens. And I
Speaker 6: think that even if she wasn't related to Savannah, that
Speaker 6: this would be a big deal. And it's got me
Speaker 6: feeling like Denzel Washington and Man on Fire.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm I'm I'm.
Speaker 1: Denzel Washington is one of my favorite actors. I think
Speaker 1: he's great. I think he's amazing. He's so good, so
Speaker 1: he's so diverse in the roles that he can play.
Speaker 2: He's really good in his.
Speaker 6: Personal life too, which I appreciate absolutely.
Speaker 2: No, I agree.
Speaker 1: Look, you know, but for whatever reason, and I guess
Speaker 1: Linda could weigh more than me on this because she
Speaker 1: reads a lot more social media than I do. But
Speaker 1: I got word from Blair, who does our social media,
Speaker 1: that I was getting hammered because one night I said,
Speaker 1: I don't want this to be interpreted as being political,
Speaker 1: but if you want to know, when I say, every
Speaker 1: life matters, That's why this story matters. That's why we
Speaker 1: talk about how many people are shot and shot and
Speaker 1: killed in Chicago every weekend. And it's it's mind numbing
Speaker 1: to me that if you can't politicize it and weaponize
Speaker 1: it or use it against Donald Trump, you don't know
Speaker 1: the names of the people shot and shot and killed
Speaker 1: every weekend, and nobody lifts a finger to help these people.
Speaker 1: That's why when ICE is risking their lives, to rescue
Speaker 1: people and to arrest you know child, you know, molesters
Speaker 1: and murderers and rapists, other violent criminals and terrorists.
Speaker 2: I'm like, wow.
Speaker 1: I mean, they get no credit for what they've been doing,
Speaker 1: and they've done a tremendous job to make us more
Speaker 1: safe and secure. I'm not saying they're perfect. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: you know, give them credit where credits due. You know,
Speaker 1: every life really does matter, and I think maybe maybe
Speaker 1: people will.
Speaker 2: Think differently about it after this. I hope so, me too,
Speaker 2: Me too.
Speaker 1: All right, my friend, God bless you. Let's stay with
Speaker 1: another mic, this one in Ohio. Mike, how are you
Speaker 1: glad you called?
Speaker 5: Sang Sean? Thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 2: Thank you for calling. What's on your mind?
Speaker 3: You're welcome.
Speaker 5: I love it. So I just want to say this,
Speaker 5: and I haven't heard it said, and I almost feel
Speaker 5: bad saying it. But I think missus gut three died
Speaker 5: somehow shortly after I mean, within a day or two.
Speaker 5: She's no longer with us, is my gut feeling. I
Speaker 5: hate to even say that, and I feel like it
Speaker 5: was just an amateurish thing that happened. Somebody screwed up
Speaker 5: she passed out, maybe had a stroke, whatever. She's an
Speaker 5: older gale and I don't think there Ever, it's going
Speaker 5: to be a long time before they find out whatever
Speaker 5: happened to to her. That's just how I am.
Speaker 1: I'm just not willing to go where you're going here.
Speaker 1: You know, the family believes she's alive. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the how premeditated in these videos and pictures we now have.
Speaker 1: This all seems to be how sophisticated the bitcoin ploy was.
Speaker 1: And I'm going with she's alive. I want unless I
Speaker 1: hear otherwise. I'm not willing to think about a worst
Speaker 1: case scenario.
Speaker 5: Well, I hope she's alive. I mean everybody does, but
Speaker 5: it just seems weird to me. I don't know. I
Speaker 5: just think something went wrong and that's what happened. But
Speaker 5: tell you, what do I know?
Speaker 2: You know, I appreciate the call, my friend. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Eight hundred and nine four one. Shawn is on number
Speaker 1: if you want to be a part of the program. Joe,
Speaker 1: South Carolina. What's up, Joe, how are you?
Speaker 8: Thank you for the opportunity to speak with you on
Speaker 8: this Sean. I'm just talking about the Don Lemon situation.
Speaker 8: I've got to say, I don't think that he deserves
Speaker 8: to be really recognized as a journalist. I've spent fifty
Speaker 8: years in broadcasting, going back to the late nineteen sixties
Speaker 8: and traveled through all of that. And if he had
Speaker 8: been working for me, the first thing I would have done,
Speaker 8: since he had already spoken to the agitatortions, was actually
Speaker 8: edging them on to come in. He wouldn't have been
Speaker 8: working for me that long.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I thought Pam Bondi described it perfectly
Speaker 1: when we interviewed her about this case and the arrests
Speaker 1: that have taken place. Is anybody that is a participant. Remember,
Speaker 1: he was clearly in support of this group, what they
Speaker 1: were doing, and giving them donuts and coffee. He seemed
Speaker 1: like an active participant in the whole thing, and very
Speaker 1: different than just going in there and covering it. And
Speaker 1: the Face Act is very very clear, and he's on
Speaker 1: tape saying I didn't care what the Face Act says.
Speaker 1: This is your constitutional right to protest and this is
Speaker 1: what America is all about. Unfortunately that's not accurate with
Speaker 1: what And it's interesting the left lafe the Face Act
Speaker 1: because it protects women's rights to go into an abortion clinic.
Speaker 1: And that's very clear too. So you know the idea
Speaker 1: that anybody can say, well, I've got an iPhone and
Speaker 1: a camera and I'm acting as a journalist, and therefore
Speaker 1: I'm not in trouble here. I don't think it's gonna fly,
Speaker 1: but you know, let's see.
Speaker 2: How it plays out. Yeah, and make his case and
Speaker 2: they'll see what happens.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I don't think he should be protected in anyway. I
Speaker 8: go back to the days of Walter Cronkite and I
Speaker 8: like when we were actually licensed in the public interest
Speaker 8: and to have a journalist quote unquote come out and
Speaker 8: really side one way or the other, that's not the
Speaker 8: public interest.
Speaker 1: Well said. Anyway, I appreciate the call. Thank you, Joe,
Speaker 1: South Carolina. Good analysis. Eight hundred and nine four one
Speaker 1: shown us number if you want to be a part
Speaker 1: of the program. All right, let's get back to our
Speaker 1: busy telephones. In the meantime, let us say hi to
Speaker 1: George my free state of Florida.
Speaker 2: What's up, George? How are you glad you called.
Speaker 9: Here, sir?
Speaker 4: How you doing?
Speaker 8: Hey?
Speaker 9: I watched the Super Bowl with with my eighty one
Speaker 9: year old mom and my wife and uh, we got
Speaker 9: our we had a choice of our halftime and we
Speaker 9: quickly changed the channel and put on the turning Point Sean,
Speaker 9: and we just are It was just awesome to know
Speaker 9: that we have choices. Now this is this is like
Speaker 9: another turning point moment where we had six point two
Speaker 9: million people turn on the YouTube just live and probably
Speaker 9: by the end of the day when everything's totaled up,
Speaker 9: it's gonna be forty to fifty million people choosing other
Speaker 9: alternatives of media. And that's it's going to be so
Speaker 9: powerful that I'm just so excited that we were able
Speaker 9: to have that opportunity because we're over that we're able
Speaker 9: to talk over the heads of the legacy media who's
Speaker 9: controlled by the Democratic Party, and this is this one
Speaker 9: showing that we we have alternatives. That is it's gonna
Speaker 9: awaken American people who realize, hey, we don't want to
Speaker 9: be said a group of twerking or watch something were
Speaker 9: mostly can't.
Speaker 1: But I've given a pope on these halftime shows a
Speaker 1: long time ago. To be very honest with you, there's
Speaker 1: not that many that I want to see and I
Speaker 1: kind of use it as my time to get food,
Speaker 1: so it didn't matter. But I did watch this year
Speaker 1: because I knew many of you would want to talk
Speaker 1: about it, and I was watching both the turning point
Speaker 1: event and you know, bad Bunny or we affectionately refer
Speaker 1: to them as bugs Bunny because I grew up watching
Speaker 1: Bugs Bunny.
Speaker 2: What's up, Doc? But you know, it just is what
Speaker 2: it is. I mean it.
Speaker 1: I just kind of accept that they just make a
Speaker 1: decision seemingly every year to play into this woke DEI
Speaker 1: mindset mentality. They think it's beneficial to them. I guess
Speaker 1: I don't no, don't really care. I was hoping more
Speaker 1: for a good game. It wasn't a good game, and
Speaker 1: I often say that the Super Bowls is very often
Speaker 1: anti climatic, especially when you consider, you know, the level
Speaker 1: of play and the games and how close they were
Speaker 1: in the comebacks, you know, leading up to I just
Speaker 1: thought the game was self kind of boring to be blunt, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they.
Speaker 9: Also said it's a learning for us to say, not
Speaker 9: only you know, to get some food, but also realize, hey,
Speaker 9: what's going on here. This is the first year they
Speaker 9: had some alternative and just continue to build. So it's
Speaker 9: just it's another point media, another point in our political
Speaker 9: process that as long as we can we talk over
Speaker 9: the heads of the mainstream media directly two people people
Speaker 9: are looking at say hey, I'm not the only one
Speaker 9: who has these thoughts, and it gives us the power.
Speaker 9: So I'm actually glad that Turning Point did that. But
Speaker 9: so it was a learning process and we can continue
Speaker 9: to show the power of the American people. We can
Speaker 9: always change channels on and I'm glad we have alternatives.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 1: That is the reason all these years, I've never called
Speaker 1: for people to be canceled. I'm never part of a boycott.
Speaker 1: I've never have been. I don't call for people to
Speaker 1: get fired.
Speaker 2: I don't. Just the opposite.
Speaker 1: I've actually advocated for people I disagree with to remain
Speaker 1: on the air, and sometimes I get criticized for it
Speaker 1: because I know ultimately they're going to want to cancel
Speaker 1: conservative voices like yours, truly, but it's bigger than that.
Speaker 1: I mean, the beauty is in this day and age,
Speaker 1: you have more choices, more options, and nobody's forcing you
Speaker 1: to watch or listen to anything. The only way I
Speaker 1: can get people to listen to those radio shows to
Speaker 1: do a good show every day and make it that
Speaker 1: you don't want to miss it. And the same with television,
Speaker 1: and I mean I have to do a good show
Speaker 1: every night. I feel that pressure to be competitive and
Speaker 1: put on the best show I can. I've got a
Speaker 1: great show tonight. I think you're gonna like it. Oh,
Speaker 1: just is one way I handle it. Appreciate the call,
Speaker 1: my friend. All right, we'll have more on these developments
Speaker 1: from all throughout the day today coming up in mere moments,
Speaker 1: and more of your calls coming up also. Eight hundred
Speaker 1: nine point one, Shawn is a number if you want
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Speaker 1: and Marilyn, Doug, how are you glad you called her?
Speaker 5: Hi?
Speaker 7: Sean, I got a question for you. How many times
Speaker 7: have you and Mark Levin told us don't take anything
Speaker 7: at face value with the Democratic Party? A bunch right?
Speaker 2: A million? Right, Mike.
Speaker 7: What I'm looking at for this Savannah's mother. If you
Speaker 7: look at the timeline the friday before she went missing,
Speaker 7: that Clintons came out and said they're going to talk
Speaker 7: to Congress. Two days later she shows up missing. Now
Speaker 7: you know, everything's not adding up. But if you look
Speaker 7: at Savannah's husband, Michael Feldman, who was any administration for
Speaker 7: the Clintons and was called the scrubber for all that
Speaker 7: bleach bit stuff, don't you find that a little odd?
Speaker 1: Don't I don't see any grand conspiracy here. I'm what
Speaker 1: I see and what I suspect is this is a
Speaker 1: kidnapping ransom, you know, one oh One's what's frustrating to
Speaker 1: me is the level of sophistication that whoever's involved in
Speaker 1: this is shown up to. Now, whether that stays that way,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Usually these people think they're clever. They're
Speaker 1: not so clever. They'll make a mistake and that's when
Speaker 1: law enforcement will pounce, especially with their new advanced technologies
Speaker 1: that they can use their ability to, you know, go
Speaker 1: into our house and recover you know, even erased encrypted messages.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's something most people don't know a whole
Speaker 1: lot about. So I'm just hopeful that they're My hope
Speaker 1: is that there is good news at the end of
Speaker 1: this story, and we may know by tonight by the
Speaker 1: time we get on TV. That's actually my hope. But
Speaker 1: I don't see any nefarious connections on this there may
Speaker 1: be in the end, and if it is, you know,
Speaker 1: I'll tip my hat to you and say you are right.
Speaker 2: I was wrong.
Speaker 1: I see a lot of connections, for example, with the
Speaker 1: chaos that is organized and well funded as it relates
Speaker 1: to this anti Ice mentality and attitude out there. But
Speaker 1: that's separate a part anyway, my friend, I do appreciate
Speaker 1: you being with us eight hundred and nine foot one Sean,
Speaker 1: if you want to be a part of the program,
Speaker 1: all right, when we come back, we're going to check
Speaker 1: in with Mike van Apps, he sits on the Homeland
Speaker 1: Security Committee, joining us. Well we come back, we'll continue
Speaker 1: with Congressman Matt van Apps of Tennessee. He's on the
Speaker 1: Homeland Security Committee, following the hearing this morning to discuss
Speaker 1: the testimony of the US Customs and Border Control Commissioner
Speaker 1: and so on and so forth. And we're also obvious
Speaker 1: following the new developments in the case of Savannah Guthrie's mom, Nancy,
Speaker 1: and the new developments video pictures that we now have
Speaker 1: of the perpetrator. And hopefully this is the break that
Speaker 1: everybody's been looking for, and we'll get to your calls.
Speaker 1: Eight hundred and nine point one shat