1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: One hour two Sean Hennity Show, eight hundred and nine 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: foot one Shawn, if you want to be a part 3 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: of the program, if you're just joining us. The FBI 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: released surveillance photos videos of a potential suspect and the 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: investigation into the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, the mother of 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: the co anchor of The Today Show, Savannah Guthrie. Four 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: images depicting a person wearing gloves, mask, backpack appearing to 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: tamper with the camera and cover up the recording that 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: obviously they figured was going on. The FBI director Cash 10 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: Pattel said the potential suspect is armed. The FBI said 11 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: yesterday it had not identified any suspects or persons of interest, 12 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: same with local law enforcement. 13 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:50,959 Speaker 2: Now. She's been missing since. 14 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: She was dropped off outside of her home at her 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: home outside of Tucson on the night of January thirty. 16 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: First reported missing on February first. Today it is February tenth. 17 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: We're in day ten now. The FBI has launched a 18 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: web page with details about the disappearance. By the way, 19 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: if you're in Tucson and listening to this program, though 20 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: the Sheriff's Department is asking Tucson residents to keep the 21 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: nine to one to one line open in case people 22 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: have real emergencies. The FBI director Cash Bettel visited the 23 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: Tucson command center in this case yesterday. The Guthrie family 24 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: does not recognize the person in the surveillance images. They 25 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: are asking the public for help if anybody can maybe 26 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: have suspects that they might know who this person is. 27 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: The President has weighed in on this. He saw the 28 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: images the videos. His reaction was pure disgusted, according to 29 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: Caroline Levitt, and also that the President again pledging his 30 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: support for the family and offering all federal assistants. And 31 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: you know, this is really the first break in the case. 32 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: Savannah Guthrie posts the video said someone out there recognizes 33 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: this person. And again, everybody, if you have any information, 34 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: you know, call it in. What the videos show of 35 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: the potential suspect images, you know, person wearing gloves, mask, 36 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: khaki sneakers, backpack, appearing to tamper with the camera at 37 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: the front door of the morning on the morning of 38 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie. The person's eyes are visible 39 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: through the holes in the mask. The images and videos 40 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: don't show a vehicle nearby, though it may be elsewhere 41 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: on the street, and you know that's where we are 42 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: at this particular time. But it's certainly the biggest break 43 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: we've had in ten days. He had to break it 44 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: all down and unpack all of this. Jason Pack retired 45 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: FBI Supervisory special Agent and hostage nego negotiator. Nicole Parker's 46 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: with Us, author of the bestseller of the two FBI 47 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: is also a Box News contributor. Nicole's start with you, 48 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: what do you glean from all of this today? I 49 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: think the first breakthrough we've had. I think this may 50 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: be what ultimately cracks the case, and I'm certainly hopeful 51 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: that it does. 52 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: I agree with you, Sean, this is monumental for this investigation, 53 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 3: and this is what the gut three family has been 54 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 3: waiting for. 55 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: You. 56 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 3: Up until today, it seemed like things were kind of 57 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 3: stalling out with the ransom deadlines. Yesterday, nothing really seemed 58 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: to be happening. But rest assured that behind the scenes, 59 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 3: there's a lot more going on than we're aware of, 60 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 3: and the FBI is going full force. And this video 61 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: and these images, there will be someone who will watch 62 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 3: this and say, look, I recognize that person I have 63 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 3: to turn them in, and you do have to turn 64 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: them in, and the tip line is eight hundred cll FBI. 65 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 3: So right now the FBI is gathering obviously all of 66 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: the tips coming in. But one thing that I think 67 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 3: is very interesting is that there are people that the 68 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: FBI had been looking at, I believe as potential persons 69 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: of interests although they have not named a suspect. They 70 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 3: have not named, you know, a person of interest. Obviously, 71 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 3: right now I'm watching lives coverage, there are agents and 72 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: investigators that are at Annie Guthrie's neighbor's home. Okay, I 73 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: don't know that that's a coincidence, But what this does 74 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: is now, whoever did this and their image is now 75 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 3: has been seen by millions of people, and it will 76 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,119 Speaker 3: be seen by millions more. They're on notice the gig 77 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 3: is up? 78 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 2: They do do you think celebrate? Is what? Actually? 79 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: This technology that we've been discussing, you know, since this happened, 80 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: do you think that played a part in them able 81 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: to being able to retrieve this video? 82 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: So the private sector company, I'm not sure which one 83 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: it was that they worked with the FBI, because originally 84 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 3: they said, you know, we're not. The FBI didn't think 85 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 3: that they were going to be able to get these images. 86 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: But that's not going to work in this investigation. They're 87 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: going to keep digging in deep. Celebrate is actually used 88 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:10,119 Speaker 3: to image cellular telephones, tablets, computers, things of that sort. 89 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 3: So I think the actual image from this it may 90 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: have been used because again it can be used to 91 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 3: image doorbell cameras and things of that sort. But it 92 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 3: really was the private corporation that worked with the FBI 93 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 3: because originally they didn't think that they'd be able to 94 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 3: obtain this. They didn't accept no as an answer, and 95 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: they continue to get it because remember they said that 96 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 3: she didn't have a paid subscription. Well, depending on the 97 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 3: type of camera that she had, potentially I'm not sure 98 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 3: in this instance, but you can get potentially three hours 99 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 3: of feed without a subscription. Let's say if it was 100 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: a Nest Aware Plus camera, but we don't know the 101 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 3: exact detail of what it was, but let me tell 102 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 3: you they celebrate. That's extremely crucial right now because remember 103 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 3: they've imaged the devices, likely of the surrounding family members, 104 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: those in her immediate contact. They're going to be going 105 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 3: in and looking at communications and I just look at 106 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: these images. Sean. I don't know about you, but those eyes, 107 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 3: those are very telling. The eyebrows. 108 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 2: I totally agree with you. So you know. I have 109 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 2: my own theories. 110 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: I'm going to keep them to myself for now, but 111 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: I've got I would not be surprised if we have 112 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: an arrest tonight or within the next twenty four hours. 113 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: I would not be surprised at all. And hopefully the 114 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: recovery of Nancy Guthrie, I'm hoping and I'm not going 115 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: to give up on that hope. Let me ask you, 116 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: as a retired supervisory special agent and hostage negotiator, Jason, 117 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: you know there was one FBI special agent's Lance Lessing 118 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: I think is his name, based in Arizona. You know 119 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 1: said in legitimate ransom case hidnappers usually move fast. They 120 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: established leverage quickly, Communication begins within hours, not days of abduction, 121 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: proof of life is produced early, and often the opposite 122 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: happened here. As a professional hostage and a gootiator, you know, 123 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: how Will, what is the best way to handle this. 124 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 4: Well, Sean, I think the family handled it exactly correctly. 125 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 4: You have to treat it like it's real, even though 126 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 4: it doesn't fit any statistical patterns that may pop up. 127 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 4: So the family did exactly the right thing. They worked 128 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 4: with the FBI's crisis Negotiation Unit and the negotiators there 129 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 4: from the Tucson ra to craft these messages to see 130 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 4: if anybody would come back. And so when that didn't happen, 131 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 4: as Nicole mentioned earlier, I've been on the work. I've 132 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 4: been in these command posts where I've been the one 133 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 4: working on these alternative theories and working on the not 134 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 4: the shiny object that everybody else is pursuing, but these 135 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 4: other alternative theories. And you've seen the results of that today. 136 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 4: So just think if they would have waited to start 137 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 4: doing that now, they haven't been. They've been working on 138 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 4: it hard. And it sounds like that this has gone 139 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 4: all the way to the FBI's computer scientists, and they 140 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 4: it sounds like, I don't know if they're on the 141 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 4: same workbench and they're at Google and the Nest company 142 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 4: and trying to work with them to make sure to 143 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 4: get the state out. But whatever they did, they found 144 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 4: the proverbial needle in the haystack. It's actually remarkable work 145 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 4: by the agents. 146 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, Nicole, have you been able to see 147 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: what people have been doing online. And I can't affirm 148 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: at one hundred percent, but they do reverse lighting and 149 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: you get a much clearer image. 150 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: Is that real? 151 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 3: I believe that they'll be able to refine these images 152 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 3: even more and I think that there's actually going to 153 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 3: be even more evidence coming out. Remember that they took 154 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 3: that camera off of the roof a few days after 155 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 3: the fact, and so I do think that they'll be 156 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 3: able to get it even more refined. But talking about 157 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 3: the ransom emails, and I agree, I think that these 158 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 3: ransoms are usually the more and more as times passing, 159 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 3: I'm beginning to think it as a false flag. I'm 160 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 3: beginning to think that the offender actually used that to 161 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: distract law enforcement resources because the ransoms are usually very succinct. 162 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 3: They're usually straightforward, and the directions are minimal, and those 163 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 3: are the typical three key elements of a ransom, and 164 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 3: we didn't see that in this. We saw the two 165 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 3: tier deadline in between a Thursday and a Monday, and 166 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 3: usually the ransom. You know, sometimes agrievance can be surmised 167 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: from the ransom, not always, but the ransom states what 168 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 3: the offender wants, how they want it and the timeframe 169 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: which they have to act and they want it to 170 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 3: move quickly. In this instance, they didn't want it to 171 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: move quickly. It's as if the offender wanted more time 172 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 3: to do what they needed to do. And if this 173 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 3: was a false flag meaning that the offender was involved 174 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 3: in the ransom email is starting to make sense now, 175 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 3: or if it was just a full on hoax. But 176 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: what we do know is that, based on our understanding, 177 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 3: there was no ransom paid, and so it leads to. 178 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 2: Best do we know that for sure? 179 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: We know it wasn't paid to the original letters wallet 180 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: their crypto wallet. 181 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 3: Again, we don't know for certain because again TMZ received 182 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 3: the first ransom email, they didn't receive the second. They 183 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 3: had the wallet address for the first email. Potentially the 184 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 3: second one may have had different instructions, but let's say 185 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 3: that it was the first. Hypothetically speaking, those are public. 186 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 3: The blockchain is public, like those transactions. That ledger is 187 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 3: public to the person that knows the wallet address. 188 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: And so to are not if they do transfer it 189 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: within minutes, they could be transferring it and buying other 190 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: crypto and selling it, and you know, they could be 191 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: doing a million different things that would not be traceable 192 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: at that point, am I right? 193 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 3: Well, no, it would always have to hit the ledger though, 194 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 3: that initial transaction to get to the six million dollars 195 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 3: that they required in bitcoin, that would that would show 196 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 3: up on the ledger. 197 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 198 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: Let me let me go back to this issue of 199 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: hostage negotiation. I mean, give us examples of what usually 200 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: happens in a hostage negotiation. Now, there are some people 201 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: that called me and said, under no circumstances do they 202 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,599 Speaker 1: think anybody should ever pay? And I just flat out disagree. 203 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: I think that's got to be an individualized decision. And 204 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, how would you live with yourself 205 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: if you can afford to pay, or or raised the 206 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: money to pay, and it ends up because you didn't say, 207 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 1: they end up killing somebody. I don't know if I 208 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: could live with myself, Jason, right, Sean. 209 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, Sean, It's absolutely correct. And these are 210 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 4: transactional things people plan. People who do kidnappings for ransom 211 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 4: want the money. They want to make it easy to communicate. 212 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 4: They certainly do not go on national television or local 213 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 4: TV stations with our ransom demand. They want to stay 214 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 4: in control of that. They want to have a private 215 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 4: line to the family so they can go back and 216 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 4: forth and give that proof of life and get the 217 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 4: ball rolling. As far as making, you know, making that transaction, 218 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 4: we didn't see that here. I do want to point out, Sean, 219 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 4: I was on the stage at the Boston Marathon bombing 220 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 4: press conference. I flipped one of those posters over revealing 221 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 4: black hat and white hat, and that next twenty four 222 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 4: to forty eight hours after that photograph was out, there 223 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 4: was super chaotic, and it's this is going to be 224 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 4: the best chance that law enforcement has, that the FBI has, 225 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 4: now that that subject's photos out there, to capture him. 226 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 4: He's these likely, like Jole said, has seen himself on 227 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 4: the news worldwide, on every phone, on every billboard, and 228 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 4: now what does he do. He's got some decisions to make. 229 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 4: If he knows where Miss Nancy is, does he move her, 230 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 4: does he flee? What does he do? This puts a 231 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 4: tremendous amount of pressure, and that's what law enforcement is 232 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 4: counting on to make a mistake, to find this person. 233 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what everybody's hope is. Nicole, What do you 234 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 2: want to add? 235 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 3: You know, I kind of in law enforcement we talk 236 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 3: a lot about tickling the wire, and that's what you 237 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 3: kind of this is almost a form of tickling the wire, 238 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: like we want the suspect to know, hey, we're on you, 239 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 3: and we want to see how certain people respond. So again, 240 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: law enforcements can be looking closely at the people and 241 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 3: the guthries direct because I think everyone at this point 242 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 3: we're not certain, but a lot of people agree that 243 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 3: it's probably someone that knew Nancy, that was either close 244 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 3: to her and her circle of close friends or contacts 245 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: or even family members. So right now law enforcement is 246 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 3: going to be seeing how certain people react the other thing. 247 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 2: That they or maybe people that worked on the prey at. 248 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: Some point, exactly a home care nurse, a pool cleaner, 249 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 3: any of those things that were you know, home care workers. 250 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 3: But again, John, it may not be the individual who 251 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 3: potentially had a grievance. It could be that they paid 252 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 3: someone to do it. I've worked murdered for higher cases. 253 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 3: The actual person who orchestrates it may never have entered 254 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 3: the crime scene. It could be the person with the issue, 255 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 3: the offender could be on the scene, or it could 256 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 3: be the offender with the grievance behind the scenes, conspiring 257 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 3: and sending someone else in to do the dirty work, 258 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 3: and so there's many layers of complex you know, complexity 259 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 3: complexities here. But it's important to note that taking these 260 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 3: images and the tips, and now they're going to comb 261 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 3: it together and they're going to piece it with the 262 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 3: technological artifacts and the evidence. They're going to look to 263 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 3: see what cell phones were trying to connect to that router, 264 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 3: that Wi Fi router. Were there any you know, people 265 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 3: that were trying to connect their phone, you know, like 266 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:54,599 Speaker 3: when you go into a phone and says, would you 267 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 3: like to connect to the Wi Fi? Was that happening 268 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 3: between the hours that this individual within the home? How 269 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 3: were they And these are types of things that law 270 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 3: enforcement isn't giving to the public, but I guarantee you 271 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:10,479 Speaker 3: that's what's happening, and that the pacemaker, the pacemaker is huge. 272 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 3: That pacemaker a sess but cannot take that outside of 273 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 3: you know, it would take a lot of work for 274 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 3: them to you know, disconnect the pacemaker inside of her body, 275 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 3: whether the app was continuing to function or not. That 276 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 3: pacemaker continues to work, and there's an app and there's 277 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 3: a cloud, and there's a company that has all of 278 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 3: that data, and I guarantee you the FBI is going 279 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 3: through that very very closely. 280 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: Would it give them the location? 281 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 3: I think, I'm not I can't speak certain of that, 282 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 3: but I believe if someone is alive, that pacemaker is 283 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 3: going to continue to work, and if someone is not, 284 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 3: that pacemaker is likely not going to continue to work. 285 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: Okay, And we appreciate both of you. Jason Pack, thank you. 286 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: Nicole Parker. We'll see you on TV tonight. We appreciate 287 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: you both. All right, let's get to our busy phones. 288 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: Let's say hi to Michael. He's in Saint Louis. Michael, Hi, 289 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: how are you glad you called? 290 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 5: Hey? 291 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 6: I just wanted to say, Number one, thank you for 292 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 6: all that you do. 293 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: Love listen, thank you for letting me do it. I 294 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: love doing what I do, and I'm blessed to do 295 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: what I do. 296 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 7: Yeah. 297 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 6: Well, anyway, I just wanted to say quickly because I 298 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 6: know I'm on the radio. Despite any political you know, 299 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 6: Savannah and this or that, I think we're blessed to 300 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 6: live in a country that this rarely happens. And I 301 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 6: think that even if she wasn't related to Savannah, that 302 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 6: this would be a big deal. And it's got me 303 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 6: feeling like Denzel Washington and Man on Fire. 304 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 4: You know, I'm I'm I'm. 305 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: Denzel Washington is one of my favorite actors. I think 306 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: he's great. I think he's amazing. He's so good, so 307 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: he's so diverse in the roles that he can play. 308 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: He's really good in his. 309 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 6: Personal life too, which I appreciate absolutely. 310 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: No, I agree. 311 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: Look, you know, but for whatever reason, and I guess 312 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: Linda could weigh more than me on this because she 313 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: reads a lot more social media than I do. But 314 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: I got word from Blair, who does our social media, 315 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: that I was getting hammered because one night I said, 316 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: I don't want this to be interpreted as being political, 317 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: but if you want to know, when I say, every 318 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: life matters, That's why this story matters. That's why we 319 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: talk about how many people are shot and shot and 320 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: killed in Chicago every weekend. And it's it's mind numbing 321 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: to me that if you can't politicize it and weaponize 322 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: it or use it against Donald Trump, you don't know 323 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: the names of the people shot and shot and killed 324 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: every weekend, and nobody lifts a finger to help these people. 325 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: That's why when ICE is risking their lives, to rescue 326 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: people and to arrest you know child, you know, molesters 327 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: and murderers and rapists, other violent criminals and terrorists. 328 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, wow. 329 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: I mean, they get no credit for what they've been doing, 330 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: and they've done a tremendous job to make us more 331 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: safe and secure. I'm not saying they're perfect. I'm just saying, 332 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: you know, give them credit where credits due. You know, 333 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: every life really does matter, and I think maybe maybe 334 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: people will. 335 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 2: Think differently about it after this. I hope so, me too, 336 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: Me too. 337 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: All right, my friend, God bless you. Let's stay with 338 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: another mic, this one in Ohio. Mike, how are you 339 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: glad you called? 340 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 5: Sang Sean? Thanks for taking my call. 341 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 2: Thank you for calling. What's on your mind? 342 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 3: You're welcome. 343 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 5: I love it. So I just want to say this, 344 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 5: and I haven't heard it said, and I almost feel 345 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 5: bad saying it. But I think missus gut three died 346 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 5: somehow shortly after I mean, within a day or two. 347 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 5: She's no longer with us, is my gut feeling. I 348 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 5: hate to even say that, and I feel like it 349 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,479 Speaker 5: was just an amateurish thing that happened. Somebody screwed up 350 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 5: she passed out, maybe had a stroke, whatever. She's an 351 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 5: older gale and I don't think there Ever, it's going 352 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 5: to be a long time before they find out whatever 353 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 5: happened to to her. That's just how I am. 354 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: I'm just not willing to go where you're going here. 355 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: You know, the family believes she's alive. I'm looking at 356 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: the how premeditated in these videos and pictures we now have. 357 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: This all seems to be how sophisticated the bitcoin ploy was. 358 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: And I'm going with she's alive. I want unless I 359 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: hear otherwise. I'm not willing to think about a worst 360 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: case scenario. 361 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 5: Well, I hope she's alive. I mean everybody does, but 362 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 5: it just seems weird to me. I don't know. I 363 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 5: just think something went wrong and that's what happened. But 364 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 5: tell you, what do I know? 365 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 2: You know, I appreciate the call, my friend. Thank you. 366 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: Eight hundred and nine four one. Shawn is on number 367 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: if you want to be a part of the program. Joe, 368 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,959 Speaker 1: South Carolina. What's up, Joe, how are you? 369 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 8: Thank you for the opportunity to speak with you on 370 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 8: this Sean. I'm just talking about the Don Lemon situation. 371 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 8: I've got to say, I don't think that he deserves 372 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 8: to be really recognized as a journalist. I've spent fifty 373 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 8: years in broadcasting, going back to the late nineteen sixties 374 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 8: and traveled through all of that. And if he had 375 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 8: been working for me, the first thing I would have done, 376 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 8: since he had already spoken to the agitatortions, was actually 377 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 8: edging them on to come in. He wouldn't have been 378 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 8: working for me that long. 379 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I thought Pam Bondi described it perfectly 380 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: when we interviewed her about this case and the arrests 381 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: that have taken place. Is anybody that is a participant. Remember, 382 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: he was clearly in support of this group, what they 383 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: were doing, and giving them donuts and coffee. He seemed 384 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: like an active participant in the whole thing, and very 385 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: different than just going in there and covering it. And 386 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: the Face Act is very very clear, and he's on 387 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: tape saying I didn't care what the Face Act says. 388 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: This is your constitutional right to protest and this is 389 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: what America is all about. Unfortunately that's not accurate with 390 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: what And it's interesting the left lafe the Face Act 391 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: because it protects women's rights to go into an abortion clinic. 392 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: And that's very clear too. So you know the idea 393 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: that anybody can say, well, I've got an iPhone and 394 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: a camera and I'm acting as a journalist, and therefore 395 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: I'm not in trouble here. I don't think it's gonna fly, 396 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 1: but you know, let's see. 397 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: How it plays out. Yeah, and make his case and 398 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 2: they'll see what happens. 399 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 400 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 8: I don't think he should be protected in anyway. I 401 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 8: go back to the days of Walter Cronkite and I 402 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 8: like when we were actually licensed in the public interest 403 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 8: and to have a journalist quote unquote come out and 404 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 8: really side one way or the other, that's not the 405 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 8: public interest. 406 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: Well said. Anyway, I appreciate the call. Thank you, Joe, 407 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: South Carolina. Good analysis. Eight hundred and nine four one 408 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: shown us number if you want to be a part 409 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 1: of the program. All right, let's get back to our 410 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: busy telephones. In the meantime, let us say hi to 411 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: George my free state of Florida. 412 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 2: What's up, George? How are you glad you called. 413 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 9: Here, sir? 414 00:20:58,880 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 4: How you doing? 415 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 8: Hey? 416 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 9: I watched the Super Bowl with with my eighty one 417 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 9: year old mom and my wife and uh, we got 418 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 9: our we had a choice of our halftime and we 419 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 9: quickly changed the channel and put on the turning Point Sean, 420 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 9: and we just are It was just awesome to know 421 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 9: that we have choices. Now this is this is like 422 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 9: another turning point moment where we had six point two 423 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 9: million people turn on the YouTube just live and probably 424 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 9: by the end of the day when everything's totaled up, 425 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 9: it's gonna be forty to fifty million people choosing other 426 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 9: alternatives of media. And that's it's going to be so 427 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 9: powerful that I'm just so excited that we were able 428 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 9: to have that opportunity because we're over that we're able 429 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 9: to talk over the heads of the legacy media who's 430 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 9: controlled by the Democratic Party, and this is this one 431 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 9: showing that we we have alternatives. That is it's gonna 432 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 9: awaken American people who realize, hey, we don't want to 433 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 9: be said a group of twerking or watch something were 434 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 9: mostly can't. 435 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: But I've given a pope on these halftime shows a 436 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: long time ago. To be very honest with you, there's 437 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: not that many that I want to see and I 438 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: kind of use it as my time to get food, 439 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: so it didn't matter. But I did watch this year 440 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: because I knew many of you would want to talk 441 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: about it, and I was watching both the turning point 442 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: event and you know, bad Bunny or we affectionately refer 443 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: to them as bugs Bunny because I grew up watching 444 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: Bugs Bunny. 445 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 2: What's up, Doc? But you know, it just is what 446 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 2: it is. I mean it. 447 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: I just kind of accept that they just make a 448 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: decision seemingly every year to play into this woke DEI 449 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: mindset mentality. They think it's beneficial to them. I guess 450 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 1: I don't no, don't really care. I was hoping more 451 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: for a good game. It wasn't a good game, and 452 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: I often say that the Super Bowls is very often 453 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: anti climatic, especially when you consider, you know, the level 454 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: of play and the games and how close they were 455 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,959 Speaker 1: in the comebacks, you know, leading up to I just 456 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: thought the game was self kind of boring to be blunt, Yeah, 457 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: but they. 458 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 9: Also said it's a learning for us to say, not 459 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 9: only you know, to get some food, but also realize, hey, 460 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 9: what's going on here. This is the first year they 461 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 9: had some alternative and just continue to build. So it's 462 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 9: just it's another point media, another point in our political 463 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 9: process that as long as we can we talk over 464 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 9: the heads of the mainstream media directly two people people 465 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 9: are looking at say hey, I'm not the only one 466 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 9: who has these thoughts, and it gives us the power. 467 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 9: So I'm actually glad that Turning Point did that. But 468 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 9: so it was a learning process and we can continue 469 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 9: to show the power of the American people. We can 470 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 9: always change channels on and I'm glad we have alternatives. 471 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 8: You know. 472 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: That is the reason all these years, I've never called 473 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: for people to be canceled. I'm never part of a boycott. 474 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: I've never have been. I don't call for people to 475 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:22,959 Speaker 1: get fired. 476 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 2: I don't. Just the opposite. 477 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: I've actually advocated for people I disagree with to remain 478 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 1: on the air, and sometimes I get criticized for it 479 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: because I know ultimately they're going to want to cancel 480 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: conservative voices like yours, truly, but it's bigger than that. 481 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: I mean, the beauty is in this day and age, 482 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: you have more choices, more options, and nobody's forcing you 483 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: to watch or listen to anything. The only way I 484 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: can get people to listen to those radio shows to 485 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: do a good show every day and make it that 486 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: you don't want to miss it. And the same with television, 487 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: and I mean I have to do a good show 488 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: every night. I feel that pressure to be competitive and 489 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: put on the best show I can. I've got a 490 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: great show tonight. I think you're gonna like it. Oh, 491 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: just is one way I handle it. Appreciate the call, 492 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: my friend. All right, we'll have more on these developments 493 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: from all throughout the day today coming up in mere moments, 494 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: and more of your calls coming up also. Eight hundred 495 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: nine point one, Shawn is a number if you want 496 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: to be a part of the program. Get back for 497 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,959 Speaker 1: busy phones. Eight hundred and nine four one, Shawn, if 498 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: you want to be a part of the program. Doug 499 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: and Marilyn, Doug, how are you glad you called her? 500 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 5: Hi? 501 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 7: Sean, I got a question for you. How many times 502 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 7: have you and Mark Levin told us don't take anything 503 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 7: at face value with the Democratic Party? A bunch right? 504 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 2: A million? Right, Mike. 505 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 7: What I'm looking at for this Savannah's mother. If you 506 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 7: look at the timeline the friday before she went missing, 507 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 7: that Clintons came out and said they're going to talk 508 00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 7: to Congress. Two days later she shows up missing. Now 509 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 7: you know, everything's not adding up. But if you look 510 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 7: at Savannah's husband, Michael Feldman, who was any administration for 511 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 7: the Clintons and was called the scrubber for all that 512 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 7: bleach bit stuff, don't you find that a little odd? 513 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: Don't I don't see any grand conspiracy here. I'm what 514 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: I see and what I suspect is this is a 515 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: kidnapping ransom, you know, one oh One's what's frustrating to 516 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: me is the level of sophistication that whoever's involved in 517 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: this is shown up to. Now, whether that stays that way, 518 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. Usually these people think they're clever. They're 519 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: not so clever. They'll make a mistake and that's when 520 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: law enforcement will pounce, especially with their new advanced technologies 521 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: that they can use their ability to, you know, go 522 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: into our house and recover you know, even erased encrypted messages. 523 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: I mean, that's something most people don't know a whole 524 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: lot about. So I'm just hopeful that they're My hope 525 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: is that there is good news at the end of 526 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: this story, and we may know by tonight by the 527 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: time we get on TV. That's actually my hope. But 528 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: I don't see any nefarious connections on this there may 529 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: be in the end, and if it is, you know, 530 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: I'll tip my hat to you and say you are right. 531 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 2: I was wrong. 532 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: I see a lot of connections, for example, with the 533 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: chaos that is organized and well funded as it relates 534 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: to this anti Ice mentality and attitude out there. But 535 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: that's separate a part anyway, my friend, I do appreciate 536 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: you being with us eight hundred and nine foot one Sean, 537 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: if you want to be a part of the program, 538 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: all right, when we come back, we're going to check 539 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: in with Mike van Apps, he sits on the Homeland 540 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: Security Committee, joining us. Well we come back, we'll continue 541 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: with Congressman Matt van Apps of Tennessee. He's on the 542 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: Homeland Security Committee, following the hearing this morning to discuss 543 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: the testimony of the US Customs and Border Control Commissioner 544 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: and so on and so forth. And we're also obvious 545 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,959 Speaker 1: following the new developments in the case of Savannah Guthrie's mom, Nancy, 546 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: and the new developments video pictures that we now have 547 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: of the perpetrator. And hopefully this is the break that 548 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: everybody's been looking for, and we'll get to your calls. 549 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: Eight hundred and nine point one shat