1 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: All right, well, let's talk about music for a second. 2 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: You feel good, Feel good out of the US. 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 2: This just fired me up. 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: I like it. 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: Let's say some other. 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: Episode five point fifty four with Josh Ross. What I 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: did not know until I was looking up the intro 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: is that he is the two time Canadian Country Music 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: Entertainer of the Year. I did not know that. I 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: don't know that I would have talked about that. Although 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: we did get into Canada a little bit. I just 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: kind of forgot. He didn't look Canadian. I don't know 13 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: what Canadian looks like, but he didn't look Canadian. But 14 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: he is the reigning CCMA Entertainer of the Year for 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: the second consecutive year. Big deal. That is a big deal. Yeah, 16 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: that's super cool. Josh Ross got some great songs. His 17 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: most recent single, single Again, went number one. He was 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: like the first Canadian mail to do that in like 19 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: thirty years. But again, the Canada thing not a huge 20 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: part of his story to me. I think he mentioned 21 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 1: something early and I was like, oh, yeah, I forgot 22 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: you were a Canadian. And then we got into what 23 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: I remembered and we talked about on the Bobby Bone Show, 24 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: which was him on stage being like, I love America 25 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: and they had to go back and apologize, so I 26 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: liked him. We end up calling Bailey Zemmerman at the 27 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: end of this, which was kind of funny because who 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: knows what Bailey's even up to, if Bailey's even awake, 29 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: or what hour Bailey's awake. But here we go, episode 30 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: five point fifty four. You guys can follow Josh at 31 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: josh Ross Music. Also go to his website Josh Ross 32 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: music dot com for tickets to his twenty twenty six 33 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: toward the kicks off February sixth. He's got a song 34 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: now called hate How You Look that's hitting the charts. 35 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: He's kind of killing it right now. We had a 36 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: super fun time here he is Josh Ross. Josh is here. 37 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: But did you think you were coming to like a 38 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: studio studio like the radio just. 39 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: Said, like Bobby's studio. But I'm now knowing it's Bobby's studio, Well. 40 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's literally my house. Yeah yeah. And then I 41 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: think most people that watch or listen know that when 42 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: I do these interviews, which we use in multiple places, 43 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: so we do a podcast, we do it for the 44 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: radio show, we do it for the countdown. I'm able 45 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: to sit with someone and get more out of them, 46 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: right than if it's in our studio, because you're like, 47 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: we have like seven people surrounding you. You're like you're 48 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: in a fish bowl up in that place. This is nice. 49 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, it makes me think that I was reading 50 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: this story about Cribs. Did you watch Cribs? 51 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, MTV Cribs. 52 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,119 Speaker 1: Yeah. You may be a little too young though, Yeah. 53 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 3: I mean I remember like you could like go on 54 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 3: YouTube and like rewatch people that you I remember like 55 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 3: Chad from Nickelback did one and we like watched it 56 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: and made fun of on tour for it. 57 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: And it turns out most of them were fake. A 58 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: lot of them were. They would like rent houses, Oh shoot, 59 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: that weren't theirs. 60 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: It was just like a scandal down the road. They 61 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 2: were like later on, this was real. 62 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: It kind of became a thing where either they were 63 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: using cars that weren't theirs, like certain people would have 64 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 1: cars brought in, or they would just go and rent 65 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: in another house and act like it was their house. 66 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: And so when you sat down and I mean like hey, 67 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I rented this place. How funny 68 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: would it be? A people all. Not really, it's not 69 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: even my house. This is not real. That would be 70 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: the greatest. I forgot. You're from Canada, so he said Chad, 71 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: I went, why did he go Nickelback first of all people? 72 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: Well, that was my first tour too, so like I always, 73 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 3: like everybody always asks like moments that I remember, and 74 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 3: one on tour was with him. 75 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: But was that your first one ever with Nickelback? 76 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 3: I did Lee Brice, I think like it was beginning 77 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 3: of that year and then it rolled into Nickelback. But 78 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 3: that was like my first like full size arena tour, 79 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 3: and dude was crazy. 80 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: It's good. You know the guys from Nickelback pretty well. 81 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: I had met Chad, so they were so I signed 82 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 3: to the Core for management and at the same time 83 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: they were starting to manage Nickelback. 84 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: And I went to a festival in Canada called Boots and. 85 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: Hearts, and Chad was there like scouting it out, I guess, 86 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 3: trying to figure out, if you know, can Nickelback play 87 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 3: at a country music festival? 88 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: And I had not How long. 89 00:03:58,960 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: Ago is this? 90 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: This was like twenty twenty two, twenty three, got it 91 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: the year before the tour, and so I got to 92 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: meet Chad. 93 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: Uh it was. 94 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: It was just an interesting night because like I think 95 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 3: I kind of rubbed Chad the wrong way that night. 96 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 3: I like had some drinks and stuff, and I think 97 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: I was like saying some smart stuff to. 98 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: Him, like were you being too friendly for the situation? 99 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: I think so when you didn't know him well enough 100 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: to be that friendly type thing. 101 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: I think yeah. 102 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: And I maybe like said something to him about like 103 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 3: something about nickelback that just wasn't maybe like I thought 104 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: it was funny, but maybe he didn't. And I was like, Okay, 105 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 3: well I don't think anything's ever gonna happen there. And 106 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 3: then I got the call being like would you consider 107 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 3: doing this? And I was like, well, maybe somehow, like 108 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 3: you know, he saw something in me or he wanted 109 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: to help me or whatever it is. And now it's 110 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 3: like the coolest relationship. Like I'll be like at home 111 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: and I get a FaceTime, Chad's in the hot tub. 112 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, what do you do? 113 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: It's like, I'm just in the hot tub, just want 114 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: to call. I'm not pandering at all. And it surprised 115 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: me when you brought him up, but I really like him. 116 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: I didn't expect to just just because reputationally and he 117 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: doesn't even have a reputation for people I know, right, 118 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 1: you'd hear like Nickelback, there's what And I was like, dude, 119 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: Nickelback had ate so many great songs, and then he 120 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: came in and he was so nice and generous with 121 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: his time, and I was like, I think everybody's wrong. 122 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean I'll be you know now, like 123 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: I've been in Nashville since twenty eighteen, but I really 124 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: think I'm like three years into this if I really 125 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 3: think about it, Like the last two years has really 126 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 3: been hard touring and stuff like that. But I met 127 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: a lot of people and I'm not just like saying this. 128 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 3: He's one of the nicest people, if not the nicest, 129 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 3: that he just gets it. 130 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: And I think it takes. 131 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: Like I'm not the easiest person to understand and I 132 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 3: make mistakes and he's done that, He's gone through that, 133 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 3: and I think he he really just looks out for 134 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 3: you if you need it. 135 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 2: I know, like Bailey would probably say the same. 136 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: That's the other guy though, And I wasn't gonna name 137 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 1: check him, but I will now because I love Bailey 138 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: and have a personal relationship with him. Bailey really likes Chad. Yeah, 139 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: but he's also like get ready if you go, Yeah, 140 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna be nuts. Yeah, he's like he taught me. 141 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 3: I already knew how to party, but like he I 142 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 3: would party with him, and I was always the guy 143 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 3: that was like still first up the next day and 144 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 3: ready to go, and Chad would beat me to that, 145 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: you know, Like he he would be willing to have 146 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: a night out or whatever, whether we were drinking or not, 147 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 3: or I was and he wasn't, or whatever it was. 148 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: He was always the first person out ready to work. 149 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 3: And it just really taught me a lot in regards 150 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 3: to like this is why they have such a long career. 151 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 3: Obviously they had the years that went by there there 152 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 3: were like things kind of went weird for them, but 153 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 3: I mean their first tour back, they were selling out 154 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 3: arenas and amp theaters and stuff. 155 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: So like, you can go hard and have fun, but 156 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: you have to be responsible first and foremost put the 157 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: work in. 158 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: Yeah he really, he really does. And yeah he just cares. 159 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 2: He really does care. So it's been cool. 160 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: This is a story not from Bailey, so it's not 161 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,119 Speaker 1: from a state. Again, it's not from Bailey. Okay, one 162 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: of my friends said he went out on a boat 163 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: chat okay, and he said, they're all in this massive 164 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if Chad yacht. I don't I'm not 165 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: putting anybody in any situation. Yeah, but he said they 166 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: were taking these pillows from the boat and they were 167 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: chunking them off the boat and they had a gun. 168 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: They had like an assault rifle and they were shooting 169 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: pillows with assault rifles off of Chad Kroger's boat. Comment, Okay, 170 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: this dude, I thought that was so funny. And he said, dude, 171 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: we did it to all the pillows were gone. 172 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: Till the pills were gone on his boat. 173 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, known, Chad, They're for like probably the nicest pillows too. 174 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: And he'said the assault rifle was huge and they were 175 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: just like geeky, like just nailing the pillows. You are 176 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: not included in this and anyway whatsoever? Now does that 177 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: sound something These things happened? Yeah, yeah, especially with Fun 178 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: on you know, fun and it's fun and a good 179 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: location does a lot of things that's funny. Yeah, first 180 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: time I think we've ever met, right, Yeah, which is 181 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: crazy because I feel like I've watched the show and 182 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: I got to know you a little bit, which is 183 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: which is cool. 184 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: So I guess this's the other way around. 185 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: You know. What's weird is I feel a bit that 186 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: I've gotten to know a little bit of you as well. 187 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: But and I'm not gonna bring up again. I'm gonna 188 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: do a lot of this. I'm gonna dance around things 189 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: and if you want to go into it film, yeah, 190 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: story too. Yeah, but like I see on TikTok, like 191 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: certain people will be on it. It'll be like also 192 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: watch Josh rost to a video. But it's like certain 193 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: people that because you're not making it now, so you 194 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: get romantically linked to folks. That's weird. 195 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty cool to have like multiple relationships on 196 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 3: the internet. 197 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: So it's an interesting time. 198 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how you know you're making it. 199 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: No, it's cool. 200 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 3: I mean I feel bad for like people like believe 201 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 3: also that they're meeting me and they you know, spend 202 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: money and yeah that's five VIP cards and then show 203 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: up to shows with I mean, gosh, I remember being 204 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 3: VIP cards. 205 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 2: That's like I said, now, yeah, like I. 206 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 3: Want a fan card, and like they'll pay like five 207 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: grand to somebody and they're like, where's my fan card 208 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 3: and we're like, I don't. I don't have fan cards 209 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 3: and no, I mean honestly say that now too, like 210 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 3: I don't have fan cards. But like people will like 211 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 3: up the shows and be like we were talking on whatever 212 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 3: app and like we're dating, and I'm like, wait what. 213 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 2: It's so you know, but these things happen. 214 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: You gotta do the blue check mark talk. Like for me, 215 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: it's been people acting like me, I need money. I 216 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: don't personally need money. I mean, look around, you know 217 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: you're here, but I'm saying I don't. But they say 218 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: online that I need money. And so there will be 219 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: there will be listeners who who who have paid the 220 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: fake version of me two and three and four thousand dollars, 221 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: and I will We've had a couple instances with the 222 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, with the FBI will call us and go, hey, 223 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: this listener has been scammed. But they have told me 224 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: because I feel bad, and I'm like, da that I 225 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: feel terrible, Like, okay, they were scammed it up a 226 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: thousand bucks. I'm just gonna give them a thousand bucks 227 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: and like, don't do that because the new the new 228 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: version of that scam is it's somebody saying they've been 229 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: scammed to get to get yeah, and they really weren't, 230 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: but to get money from the person originally. It's crazy. 231 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 3: I'm like, Kenzie's here, uh, one of my managers, and 232 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: and she like there's like fake profiles of her being 233 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 3: like I'm Josh's manager in like post. I think one 234 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 3: account has more followers and like in views on her 235 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 3: TikTok than her actual one, which is crazy. But yeah, 236 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 3: people people stretching out the truth. 237 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: You had many surgeries? Uh on two three, four? Oh 238 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: bunch four? I have surgery tomorrow. What you got? I'm 239 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: a little nervous about it. 240 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: Do you want to talk about it? 241 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: What do you? What have you had? H I mean, 242 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: since we're diving in, might as well be so honest. 243 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: I had my tonsils out. That's not That's not one 244 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: you can claim super honesty about. That's not one where 245 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: you go, I've had I've had I've kind of get 246 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: vulnerable here, I've had I've had a lower body area fixed. 247 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: But when you say that, you make it sound like 248 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: a j your wianer. It was my testicle? Did you 249 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: erupture it? 250 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? I was like lifting weights and I like get 251 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 2: like a it was like a hernia kin thing in it. 252 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 253 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I've had that, and then I had athlete that. 254 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 1: One doesn't even sound that crazy. That sounds like like 255 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: a professional athlete for that have oddly two of them. 256 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: They're like what is that? What is the aventured their testicle? 257 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: Like they either ruptured part or like a hernia type injury. 258 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you get like a what it's called like a 259 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 2: vehicle steel vein. 260 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Were doing deadlifting or what at that time? Yeah, 261 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: I was like just at football. So I was like squatting, deadlifting, 262 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: you know, blowing my back out doing whatever. All Right, 263 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: we got a tonsil, we got a testicle. What other 264 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: body part do we have? Uh? 265 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: To this ankle twice so my right ankle? 266 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: Okay, what'd you do on your ankle? Uh? 267 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: First time like snapped it had like a reconstructive surgery 268 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 3: like all the ligaments and stuff. 269 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: And then did the same thing again and how to 270 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: get fixed again? Did the second time happen? 271 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 3: Because I was supposed to be stronger, but I literally 272 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 3: heard it. So I did like six months rehab, came 273 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 3: back second second time back on the field and literally 274 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 3: came down and just cracked. 275 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: Were you done. 276 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 3: After that second time, I like did the rehab again 277 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 3: and then I decided I was done. 278 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: Have you ever talked about your testicle surgery before? No? Okay, no, 279 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: So my surgery is my I have an ankle surgery, 280 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: but it's not near as intense tomorrow. 281 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: I thought. 282 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 1: No, no, no, I wasn't. I kind of made you 283 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: feel that way. But I have an ankle scope and 284 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: they gotta put some cadaver cartilage in my foot. I'm 285 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: just a little nervous about it. 286 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: Oh, scopes are the greatest, dude. 287 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: Be guys. 288 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 3: It's just so not invasive, like you're me really happy 289 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 3: with it like I had so when I had it 290 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 3: done too, I had like scopes on the back where 291 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 3: they like clean out all the cartilage and stuff. 292 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're me, you're me great. It's been hurting 293 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: me for like two years, okay. And I've purposefully like 294 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: exvert like X like invert like when you inverted out. Yeah. Yeah, 295 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: they and at first it was a small tear, but 296 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: I've continued, I'll say, to perform on it. Yeah, and 297 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: the tear has gotten so large. They're like, look, it's 298 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: gonna hurt worse and worse. So they have to put 299 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: cadaver cartilage after the scope, and that's pretty cool. I 300 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: can do that. Where are you getting it done on 301 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: my ankle? I'm kidding. I'm like, I'm going to Mexico 302 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: tomorrow morning, Guadalajara. Yeah, doing it for cheap like Brentwood Surgical. Okay, 303 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: doesn't know it. Yeah. Yeah, Well are you going to sleep? 304 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: You kind of have to, you have to for it. Yeah. 305 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 2: Is that freak you out? 306 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? Little? Yeah. I don't sleep well anyway, so a 307 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: little bit of me is looking forward to that part 308 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: of it. Dude. It's the best sleep of your life, 309 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: just getting a nap. 310 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in the count back. 311 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm I was okay with it, but 312 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 3: now as I'm getting older, I'm probably like I wouldn't like. 313 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: It as I getting older. You did, you're like twelve still, but. 314 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 3: Like, but it is pretty cool when they go like 315 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 3: count back and then and then you're just gone and 316 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 3: the next thing you know, like you just wake up 317 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 3: and it's like none of it happened and you don't 318 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 3: even know how long you were asleep for. 319 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: When I was five, I went in I fell off 320 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: a house and rupture my spleen and damn, it's one 321 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: of my first memories. And so I get rushed to 322 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: the hospital because I'm basically drowning internally in my own blood. 323 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: I don't know that at the time, but I remember 324 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: them putting a mask on me at five years old 325 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: and going, okay, count back, and I remember I can 326 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: vividly remember going ninety nine. That's it done out. Yeah, 327 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: it's like the I don't want to talk too much 328 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: about I'll freak you out, but it won't freak me out. 329 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: But this is like the perfect amount, Like they have 330 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: to give you the right amount. 331 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 2: Like a lot of people actually wake up midsired, like 332 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: they kind of come to I. 333 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: Had a friend who was getting a colonoscopy and they 334 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: woke up in the middle of it and they could 335 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: see on the screen, Oh my gosh. Yeah no yah, anyway, 336 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: good luck to me. 337 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, what else is up, dude? 338 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: Just just talking about my testicle and stuff. What's crazy? 339 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: Is it? Because I had to work for the NFL 340 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: as well, and I do a show for the NFL, 341 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: and I talked to so many athletes like that. When 342 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: you said that, I didn't even it wasn't even like 343 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: a stutter because it's such a common thing for men athlete. 344 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: I feel like people don't probably want to talk about it. 345 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, no, no, it's common. I mean it was 346 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: just like such an aching pain. Let me, let me 347 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: see how it's healed. Show them here now, I'm kid, 348 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: I'm kidding, Moving off, moving, Yeah, how long have you 349 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: been in town? 350 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 3: It's like a hard Like I started coming here in 351 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, i'ld go back and forth, save up enough 352 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 3: money come back. 353 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: Being Canadian, didn't like, you couldn't stay stick, couldn't go 354 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: get a job at Starbucks or whatever. 355 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was like probably illegally staying, I guess. 356 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: And you're from London, Ontario. 357 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: I went to school in London, Ontario. 358 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 3: I'm from water Down, Ontario, which is like an hour 359 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 3: west of Toronto. 360 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so I know London, Ontario because our show is there. Okay, 361 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: is that which one's near Detroit? That's London boom? 362 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well yeah, you cross over the what's it called 363 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 2: the Ambassador Bridge? 364 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: Would you guys cross over? And because back in the day, 365 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: especially for a lot of my friends in college, they 366 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: would cross over the border and go to Mexico. Would 367 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: you guys have a crossover into America and go to 368 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: the Donkey Show. 369 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: When when the when the dollar was good, we would 370 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 3: like go because things were cheaper. 371 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: Now it's like kind of the other way around. 372 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: When the Canadian dollar was good. 373 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 3: So I remember, like when I was I don't know, 374 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 3: probably six seven, the dollar was almost like par and 375 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 3: you would go because things were still marked down like 376 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 3: twenty percent. Because like right now, if you go to Canada, 377 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 3: sweater is probably seventy five dollars, but here it's fifty. 378 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 3: So at that time you could go and it was 379 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 3: fifty dollars and you're saving you know. 380 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: I find it most interesting you chose a sweater as 381 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: you're item dead. It's colder. Yeah, but yeah, I don't know. 382 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: You play ball in high school? 383 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I mean that's kind of how I got 384 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 3: into football and then I got a scholarship when I. 385 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: Went to school. Did you have covered practices? To have 386 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: what covered practices meaning practices indoors? 387 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 3: Oh, we do. We do a couple of Like winter 388 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 3: dome we do is like the soccer domes. It just 389 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 3: seems really cold. 390 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: It's cold. 391 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 3: I mean you think about like the you know, the bills, 392 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 3: that's like my NFL team, and I mean they're building 393 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 3: a new stadium, like why did they not close it in? 394 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: But well that I get because it's the culture, Like 395 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills culture is, if you're going to come 396 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: there to our advantage, if I were a Buffalo player, 397 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: to our advantage, We're going to have our fans shovel 398 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: the freaking snow and it's going to be miserable for you. 399 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's definitely a thing. Like it was cold. 400 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 3: I'm remember for some games we played, man, people used 401 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 3: to stud their cleats, so it was like illegal to 402 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 3: do that, like you couldn't do that, but people would 403 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 3: actually like metal stud their cleats so that like when 404 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 3: the field would freeze like literally ice, they you know, 405 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 3: would grip. 406 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 2: But if you got like stepped on or whatever, it 407 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 2: was terrible. 408 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: If you're a Canadian football player of American football is 409 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: the goal to get to the States to play college 410 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: football at an American university. 411 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: Some people would transfer, like I had. 412 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 3: There's a guy named Tyler what was his name, Tyler 413 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 3: Varga and he he was a running back for US 414 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 3: and he only stayed one year and then he went 415 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 3: to Yale. After that and then I think he played 416 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 3: for the Colts for like a minute. So there was 417 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 3: some people that did that. A lot of the linemen 418 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 3: could like stay the entire time and then just get 419 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 3: drafted over hockey. 420 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: Did you play hockey? Yeah? 421 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 2: I played for like probably fourteen fifteen years. 422 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: Oh that long? 423 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 2: That long? 424 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 3: I mean I was literally was saying today, like, you 425 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,479 Speaker 3: wear skates before you can run. I was like three 426 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 3: years old, and you actually do figure skating first to 427 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 3: learn how to skate, and then you play hockey. 428 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: I saw a story today about Jelly Roll going into 429 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: I think it was a Louis baiton. Did you see it, Mike, Yeah, 430 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: where they said he treated him like a criminal because 431 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: he looked like a criminal. Wait, what do you open 432 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: for Jelly Roll? Right? Yeah, you know Jelly LOWI yeah, yeah, 433 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: he's great. Yeah we would you pull up the story? Yeah? 434 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: He got what so he got nothing? But he went 435 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: into a luxury brand store. I feel comfortable talking about 436 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: this guy. No, jellywill really well too. Yeah, and he 437 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: went into a luxury brand store. I think it was 438 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: in a European country. It was in Sydney, Australia. Okay, 439 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: not Europe, but another one of those countries, the whole cold, 440 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: every continent, and he went in and he said they 441 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: treated him like a criminal because he looked like one. 442 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: He said, he looked like he was going to rob 443 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 1: the store, him and the people he was with. 444 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: Does he look like he would rob a store? 445 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: I find that? That was my point when I saw it. 446 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 2: I thought, yeah, I think he would not be mad. 447 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: You say that, Yeah, No, I think he does look 448 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: like he would rob the store. So when I saw 449 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: the story, I thought, yeah, I see that. 450 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be a lovely guy. I might be throwing 451 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 2: security over that way, like it is what it is. 452 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't. 453 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 2: I think once you get to know him, you're like, no, 454 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:00,719 Speaker 2: not at all, but absolutely right. 455 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, But until you get to know him, you're like, 456 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: this guy's got tattooed all over his face. Yeah, what's 457 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: the book thing? Don't read a Judge book by its cover. 458 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: Yeah that's the jelly roll. Yeah. 459 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 4: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor, 460 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 4: and we're back on the Bobby Cast. 461 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: Okay, I have memories coming back. Oh I talked about 462 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: you on my show about the Canada American thing on stage. Oh, 463 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 1: let's do it. I wonder, well, I thought it was hilarious. 464 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: Thank you. I thought there was no I thought you 465 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: should have said nothing. I thought it was just hilarious. 466 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: And people get there but her in every way possible. Now, 467 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: I say this to somebody who talks for a living, 468 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: and people get mad at everything I say. It doesn't 469 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: matter so you get on stage. I didn't think you 470 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: were at all insulting Anybody's what's crazy? 471 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I feel like I'm at a part 472 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 3: now where I could like talk about it more, but 473 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 3: like I just, dude, I'm so proud that I was 474 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 3: born in Canada, but I'm also beyond proud of how 475 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 3: hard I've busted my ass to live here and make 476 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 3: a living and have a career. And you know, so 477 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 3: for me, that's what it was. Unfortunately, Internet people only 478 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 3: clip certain parts. They don't take the beginning. I didn't 479 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 3: say anything bad about either places. You know, just it 480 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 3: was it was taken away that it got taken, and 481 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 3: you know, people obviously start to panic behind the scenes. 482 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 2: I got, you know, and it's like, okay, you have 483 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 2: to make this. 484 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,719 Speaker 3: Right, and it's like, you know what, what's the balance 485 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 3: of that versus just being like guys. I'm proud of both. 486 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 3: I'm probably want to freaking go to Australia. I just 487 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 3: got back from London, UK. Loved it, you know, told 488 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 3: them that they're some of the best fans. You know, 489 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 3: what is other places going to get mad because I 490 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 3: say that it's just you know, it's just a matter. 491 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: Of the fact. 492 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 2: And yeah, dude, I'm just like proud to be doing 493 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 2: what I'm doing. 494 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: Do you wish you wouldn't have made the second video 495 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: apologizing because I was very anti you apologizing because I 496 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: was very pro you didn't thing wrong. 497 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I feel like regardless, I would 498 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 3: have spoken up about it at some point. So, I mean, 499 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 3: it just happened then. I mean I don't think maybe 500 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 3: it had needed to happen right then. I was just 501 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 3: worried that people were getting offended. 502 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: Dude. 503 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 3: I got like my parents got death threats, well, which 504 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 3: is the craziest thing. Like we were up and of 505 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 3: course this all happened. 506 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: I don't know. 507 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 2: A week before I had to go to Ottawa to 508 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 2: do Canada Day and play. 509 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 3: You know, and like my like literally I had to 510 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 3: go look at one of my high school buddies in 511 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 3: college buddy, he's a cop, and I was like, dude, 512 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 3: what do I do here? And he's like, you need 513 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 3: to file a report and they need to go check 514 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 3: on your parents, like literally, like I don't ever mention 515 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 3: my parents' names online. I'll maybe post photos of them. 516 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 3: And they were literally calling them out by a name 517 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 3: where they live, They're going to show up at their house. 518 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 3: I mean stuff that was just you know, sick, like 519 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 3: telling me they're gonna like hang me and stuff like that. 520 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, what, like what so much hate? 521 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 3: And I think it's somebody like keyboard Warriors in this world. 522 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 3: It's like if you would actually never show up or 523 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 3: show face. But it's just disgusted to me. 524 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: So and also with the weirdos and not to freak 525 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: you out like you tried with me with anesthesia, Yeah, 526 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: because I have been I have been jumped outside of 527 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: the radio station. I have had a gun held to 528 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: my head outside of an event. I've had these incidents. 529 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: All it takes is one weirdo. No. Yeah, so I 530 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: think you did the right thing there. I just am 531 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: so against being bullied by the internet. Yeah. 532 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: Well since then, I've just dude, I've like it. 533 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 3: Here's the thing I look at like the stuff that 534 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 3: say happened to Morgan or the things that I've happened 535 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 3: to other artists. 536 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: And. 537 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 3: I'm glad that it happened in a sense that well, 538 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 3: here's the thing. There's no right or no wrong, Like 539 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 3: I don't know how to say this right or wrong. 540 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: Hey, be careful. You have to apologize if you say 541 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: that right, right, yeah? Yeah. 542 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 3: But my thing is like me apologizing could then offend 543 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 3: other people for maybe taking back what I said, and 544 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 3: then me not apologizing affects the people that I supposedly 545 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 3: said things about. So there was no win win for 546 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 3: me really, And that was like a really unique situation 547 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 3: where like throwing a chair off of a roof, you go, 548 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 3: that was probably wrong, bad decision, and you know, you apologize, 549 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 3: move on, like those things you would take back. 550 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 2: Mine is just like yeah. 551 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: Because there were cops there and it was something illegal, 552 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: right and yeah r yeah, yeah, we're like charge. You're 553 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: not getting charge for right, So it's just different. 554 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 3: And then also like we're in such a heated time 555 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 3: or that was such a heated time with like politics 556 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 3: and what was going on, and oh I didn't think 557 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 3: about that. 558 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,479 Speaker 1: Part of that was so that was kind of when 559 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: it was getting weird. Huh, dude. 560 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 3: It's just like, I'm just here to make country music 561 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 3: and sing songs, singing all types of music, and go 562 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 3: travel the world. 563 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 2: That's all I want to do. 564 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 3: I got nothing bad to say about really any places 565 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 3: I've been, but I am freaking proud of where I live, 566 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 3: and I'm proud of where I come from. 567 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: I got a lot of bad things to say about some 568 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: certain people. Well that's different to me, and you. 569 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 2: Can you want to say one. 570 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I'd like to say a couple of things. Actually. 571 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: First of all, when that was happening with Canada and America, 572 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: I was very pro Canada. Okay, on my show, I 573 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: was like, this is stupid. Well, mostly because I got 574 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: a lot of affiliates, but I don't want to lose, right, 575 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: and I didn't want to be like, well we got 576 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: to pull this American off because we're trying to acquire 577 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: Canada as the fifty first state. Right, the dumbest thing 578 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: you ever heard, cause that ain't happening. Well, you guys 579 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: are so friendly. It feels like you're gonna rob me 580 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: when I'm up in Canada, right. 581 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 3: I don't mean I just this is not me just 582 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 3: saying I don't get involved in politics, to be so honest, 583 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 3: until recently, actually kind of till post all that I 584 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 3: really don't pay attention. And I'm not saying that because 585 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 3: like I don't care, or I'm I'm arrogant or any 586 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 3: of that. It's just like my time consumption is just 587 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 3: so dedicated to the craft. For an hour I'm going 588 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 3: or traveling or trying to catch up on two hours 589 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 3: of sleep. It's like the last thing I'm doing is 590 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,239 Speaker 3: turning on CNN and being like, you know, what did 591 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 3: Trump say today? And who's the new Prime Minister of 592 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 3: Canada and you know all that kind of stuff. 593 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: So I'll say a couple other bad things. You're former 594 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. Don't know him, but he is 595 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: dating a maniac. 596 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 2: I just found that out last week. 597 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, she was the worst. I worked there for four years. 598 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: She was the worst. Wow work. Just like I don't 599 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: know her and I don't know him. So now this 600 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: is not you saying bad stuff. It's me for the 601 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: eighth time, though I've said it many times. She is 602 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: a Tuesday. That's that's a that's a disaster. Well, waiting 603 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: to happen. So anyway, was he married? No, so he wasn't. 604 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: He doesn't have kids or any of that. Yeah, I 605 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: think he has kids. Okay, but he wasn't married before this. No, Oh, 606 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's married. I thought, he mean 607 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: now I think everybody's single. I did him like, hey, 608 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: budd if I could like tap him on the shoulder. 609 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 2: Yeah and be like heads up, well maybe he'll watch this. 610 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: Yeah all right, Well let's talk about music for a second. 611 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: You feel good, go good? Out of view. This is 612 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: firing me up. 613 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 2: I like, it's like, let's say some other shit. 614 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: Well, the problem is you just you wade into it 615 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: then before you then you look back and you realize 616 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: you're way farther in than you thought. 617 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 2: No, I feel good, Okay, I'm like one of those people. 618 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 3: It's like sometimes it's just nice to like actually have 619 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 3: a conversation versus just like smiling and being like everything's okay. 620 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, this town's a lot of smiling and acting like 621 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: everything's okay. This sound's changed a lot, but you've only 622 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: you've how's it changed that you've been here? I think? 623 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 3: I mean I went to Losers two nights ago, first 624 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 3: time I've gotten to Losers since to be on my 625 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 3: awards last year, and not that I need to walk 626 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 3: in and like recognize the bartenders or recognize the people 627 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 3: in the scene, but I could not believe how packed 628 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 3: it was on a Monday, full of like I'm guessing 629 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 3: it was vandy kids and stuff like that, which I 630 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 3: think is great. 631 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 2: I'm just concerned for, like, if it was. 632 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 3: Not for Losers in Red Door and those places when 633 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 3: I came to town in twenty ninth or eighteen to 634 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 3: twenty twenty, and I would walk in a room and 635 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 3: I knew that each person I would meet in that 636 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 3: room was a songwriter, was connected to the industry somehow. 637 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 2: I feel like now you could go in there. 638 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 3: And it would be had like it would be only 639 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 3: you know, one out of ten people, if not, it's 640 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 3: like a tourist or a student or And I think 641 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 3: it's just become such a popular place for like people 642 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 3: to just go, and I think that's great. 643 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 2: It means great for the businesses, But I mean if 644 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 2: you're a new artist like myself that especially at that 645 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,719 Speaker 2: time that didn't have a social media along or TikTok, 646 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 2: like I didn't have a video popping off, and there 647 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 2: wasn't even really TikTok yet. I mean, it was like 648 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 2: kind of during COVID, just beginning of COVID. I don't 649 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 2: know how you're gonna get help, you know, And that's 650 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 2: kind of like where I like think about the organic 651 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 2: way of doing it, and yeah, it's just interesting. 652 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: It's just a different time. I blame all that though, 653 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: on the red doors, the losers, all that being infiltrated 654 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: with non musical people. On TikTok though, because people talk 655 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: about artists, songwriters being at red door, right, and where 656 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: do people see that they are? So then they want 657 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: to go where people are, so you've got to now 658 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: you have to create. 659 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: These new places totally. 660 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: But I blame social media for ruining, right, ruining that, Yeah, 661 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: that environment, that culture. 662 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just as bad. 663 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 3: I mean I've posted videos, I've done photoshoots a red door, 664 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 3: you know, and people go, oh, there's red door. So yeah, 665 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 3: it's just an interesting and then obviously like development and 666 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 3: buildings and the typical stuff traffics worse. 667 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: You know, I moved out of town. 668 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 3: I live in the culture for four or five years, 669 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: and then now I'm in Dixon, which is like forty 670 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 3: five minutes west. 671 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: That's dangerous. So I live downtown for a few years. Yeah, 672 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: you got to get that out of your system. But 673 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: then you want to run from it as fast as 674 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: you can. It's like you reach a limit and you 675 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: got to go. Dude. 676 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 3: I was going down to Broadway three or four times 677 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 3: a week, you know, and then still going to Loser's 678 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 3: Red Door and you know, figuring out personal life and 679 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 3: trying different things, and dude, it was so I'm so 680 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 3: grateful for it, but it I mean, I definitely like 681 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 3: burnt myself. 682 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 2: Out of that, which I'm. 683 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 3: Glad I did, because like, the last thing I want 684 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 3: to do is like getting a serious relationship, get married, 685 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 3: and then be like, you know, I never did that 686 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 3: for me at least, I'm that type of person, like 687 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 3: I need to go get something out of my system. 688 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: And I did that. So I always wanted to live downtown, 689 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: and so I moved here. I moved here in twenty 690 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: thirteen and bought a place in Brentwood. And I'd had 691 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: some security issues before I got here, with the occasional 692 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: crazy right like death threat type stuff breaking into my 693 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 1: house that kind of stuff. Wild. Yeah, it's crazy. Well, 694 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: it's also why we have walls and gates here even 695 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: when you come in. That's that's part of it. Yeah. Yeah, 696 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: this house that we rented for this show, this got 697 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: great securities. So when I moved here, they said, hey, 698 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: you need to live somewhere secure, based on the insurance 699 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: that my company had to pay for just my life. Right. 700 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: So I moved to a place called Governor's Club in 701 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: Brentwood and had walls and it was all good. I 702 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: lived there for like a month or so, and a 703 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: dude murdered his family, like eight thousands down and he's 704 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: running around on the streets with the gun, like hiding 705 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: in the field. They can't find him. And it was 706 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: also I was starting to do some stand up and 707 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: I was touring a little bit, and so I was 708 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: always having to go to the airport from Brentwood. But 709 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: I'd always wanted to live downtown because until you've done it, 710 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: you always wonder what it would be like to be 711 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: so close and have access to everything. Yeah. Yeah, And 712 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: so moved from there and bought a place at like 713 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: fourth in Church, which is like two blocks from Broadway, 714 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: and like the Beaver karaoke place is right, I mean 715 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: it was. It was all there, and so but I went. 716 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:03,959 Speaker 1: I remember looking at this place and it was like 717 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: on top of a building, and it Mike, what's that 718 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: road or that the bar? The bar? It was right 719 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: off the balcony was Printer's Alley, like literally I was 720 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: on Printer Show. Yeah, But I went to look at 721 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: it on like a Tuesday or a Wednesday in the daytime, 722 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: and I was like, this place is awesome. It's great, 723 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: and I would be gone touring most weekends. I never 724 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: thought to check to come to that place on a 725 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: Friday or Saturday night because when I would actually be 726 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: home on a Friday or Saturday night and try to 727 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: stay in my condo, it sounded like this all time. 728 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: But who would ever go check on a Friday night 729 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: to listen to and so other than that, it was awesome. 730 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: But I reached a point to where I was like, 731 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: I'm I think I'm out. Were you big like party 732 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: or like ge party? I mean to look at me, 733 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: I'm when I'm wearing a card again, who doesn't work? 734 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: But like, would you go out on Broadway? I've never 735 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: had a drink of alcohol, but but you don't have 736 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: to drink that fun. I would like, I did like 737 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: to go out some, okay, because I was single. Yeah, 738 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: I was single and I was starting to make money, right, 739 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: and I was never attractive to girls until I started 740 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: to be well single and had money, and so of 741 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: course I was like, do I gotta go downtown? This 742 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: is crazy? Girls actually like me? Now crazy how that works? Yeah, 743 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: it's exactly, And so yes, I was. If I was home, 744 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: we were doing we were, but then I just I 745 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: got hired and it was no more and I never 746 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: wanted to do it again. I'm actually okay, never going 747 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: back ever. Yeah, Like I'm kind of good with that. 748 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: But I'm glad I did it, like you said, because 749 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: I think there was a time in my life where 750 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: I think that was kind of fun. Yeah, and I 751 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: think I would have wondered what it was like had 752 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: I never done it. I also bought a place in 753 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: downtown at the same time in Austin, Texas. Sam, I 754 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: love Austin. It's the greatest. Yeah, it's my favorite city. 755 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: I would say it's my favorite city. I'm gonna take 756 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: fait Aville, Arkansas out of it because that's like Arkansas 757 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: home for me. Right now. Well, here's the thing. If 758 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: I do saything wrong. I will not apologize. I love Fayville, 759 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: but like for cities that like that weren't home because 760 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: home is different, Like Austin's my favorite city ever. Austome 761 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: is the greatest where you're from. I'm from central Arkansas. 762 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: If Fayell is where the University of Arkansas is, I 763 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:13,239 Speaker 1: feel like I've been. 764 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 2: Is there one in North Carolina too? There is a 765 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,959 Speaker 2: Favbale North That's the one I'm thinking of. We had 766 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 2: a show. There was a shooting at the show. 767 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: At the show, yeah, it was like in a park there. 768 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 3: We were like we're just getting off stage, wrapping our 769 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 3: stuff up, and then like somebody like pulled a gun 770 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 3: out in the field and like was shooting it off. 771 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: But not at somebody. They were just shooting the gun. 772 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if they were celebrating a good Josh 773 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: Cross showed on end of the year. It's like twenty 774 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: one Drum Street and the Pop in the office. 775 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 5: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the 776 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 5: Bobby Cast. 777 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: What was your first video to to like viral anything? Dude? 778 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 3: It's so interesting for me because I like I have 779 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 3: a great following in such a like a strong fan base. 780 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say I have necessarily like had a viral video. 781 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 3: I mean I've had songs like Trouble that have done 782 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 3: well in single again that's done well, and you know 783 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 3: those those are always into support of the social media. 784 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 3: But I'm also just really proud of like you know, 785 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 3: we've we've built a great thing just on the road 786 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 3: and foundation. 787 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 2: So I like to still think. 788 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: I don't. I think there's still that one that's going 789 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: to happen, which is really exciting because the foundation's there. 790 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: So that's a better attitude. I thought you're gonna go 791 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: with I haven't needed it. 792 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 3: Oh heck no, you need it. Whether you like it 793 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 3: or not, you need it. I'm lucky that I like it. 794 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 3: I sometimes like a little direction, and you know, sometimes 795 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 3: I just want to date and not do anything. 796 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: Do you have people that are and I don't want 797 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: to confuse a micro manager with a micro manager, meaning 798 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: a micro manager would be somebody that's too much and 799 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: it's all over your stuff, all right, But a micro 800 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: manager manages your micro things, like what social media content 801 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: you're going to do that day. They're going to lead 802 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: to you in a direction. Do you have anybody that 803 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: helps you on this soup micro elements. 804 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 3: I think there's like direction, like we you know, like 805 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 3: I'll take ideas and direction. I'm one of those people 806 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 3: that's like, if I don't like them, just I'm just 807 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 3: not gonna do it one. It's just gonna come across 808 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 3: as so not organic for me, Like I can't fake 809 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 3: like it's just yeah, but yeah, we like come up 810 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 3: with ideas and brainstorm and then I'll take that and 811 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 3: run with it, and I'll send them stuff and you know, 812 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 3: they'll help me post depending like when I was in 813 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,280 Speaker 3: the UK and time. 814 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 2: Was all off. It's timing matters sometimes and they'll post 815 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 2: for me and stuff. 816 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 1: So it's great. Can I show you a video? You 817 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: tell me if it's funny or not. Yeah, I show 818 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: this to my wife. I don't want to tell you 819 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: what she said. All right, this is the funniest video. 820 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: And I hate when people do this to me, But 821 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: this is a science experiment. 822 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 3: If I'm gonna laugh or not, dude, my humor is 823 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 3: so weird, so I hope this is not going to 824 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 3: affect you. 825 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: Oh I didn't make it. 826 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:45,760 Speaker 2: Okay. 827 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: My wife's pregnant right now. We haven't had any kids yet, 828 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: and this is our first kid. And it's crazy that 829 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: she's pregnant, as I mean, I get, I get how 830 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: you get pregnant. Understand that, like I know what happened. Yeah, 831 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: so I'm like crazy, it's like Jesus right, it's not 832 00:34:59,040 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: she's not a virgin. 833 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 2: How far along? 834 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: Wait saying I can tell you. I have to offer 835 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: mica because there are there are rumors she's already had it, 836 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 1: which she might have, right, and there are also rumors 837 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: that she's not pregnant at all. Now a little bit 838 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 1: of this it's crazy, Yeah, yeah, it's all wild, dude. 839 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: But if you plants after this, if you exactly, if 840 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: you plant so many seeds, people don't know which seed's 841 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: real and right, yeah, so start planting more. She is 842 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: asleep next to me, and it's hard for her to 843 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: sleep because again there's a human growing inside her. Right. 844 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: And I like my phone. I love my phone. I 845 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: think we should be on her. Phone's more. I'm the 846 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: opposite of everybody else on earth. I think my phone 847 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: brings me great connection to a lot of things. Yeah, 848 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: and as long as I'm not abusing it, and I 849 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: don't like I don't look at porn or anything so 850 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm good. So nothing dirty, well, I would hope. I mean, 851 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: she's pregnant besides you sleeping in bed. Yeah, like my phone, 852 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: there's nothing bad on my phone happening, not talking to girls, 853 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: not looking at stuff. But I love my phone. Yeah, 854 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,280 Speaker 1: and I'm watching this video and I'm laughing so hard 855 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: that I'm shaking. I'm shaking the bed right, there's no 856 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: way this video can live up to what I just 857 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: told you. 858 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 2: I'm still laughing about born on my phone. 859 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I wanted. I want you to know 860 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: my phone is good and wholesome. 861 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish I could never mind. 862 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: I don't have any Okay, look, no I'm not saying anything. 863 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 1: So this video is of these two kids and they're 864 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: on these blow up costumes. Okay, and the riding on 865 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: it says, my brother put stinky spray in my son 866 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: and nephew's blow up costumes. This is the result. Just 867 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: hit play, and I don't know. Just tell me if 868 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: you think it's funny, remember the spread. Don't laugh at 869 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: any funny. Yeah that's funny, because that's shit. That's because 870 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 1: I did stuff like this. Dude. They can't stop for 871 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 1: like sixty seconds. Oh, my god, they're dancing, they're fighting 872 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: themselves to get out of these blow up cause it 873 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: was no, this is funny, this is good, this is good. 874 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: But like I do this to people, Like my wife goes, 875 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: will you ever grow up with your humor? I'm like, 876 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think we're well beyond that. Yeah. 877 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 3: I'm the person that like calls people and teases them 878 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 3: and like like I'll call Kenzy. 879 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 2: I'll be like the other day, I like call her. 880 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, she's like, what are you doing? 881 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: I was supposed to have her right, I'm like, oh man, 882 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 1: broad I'm on Broadway, I'm at the bar. Oh no. 883 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 2: And she's like, well, she's so sweet, She's what. 884 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: Do you what do you mean? Is everything okay? I'm 885 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: like I'm kidding, you know. I'm always trying to joke around. 886 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 1: When'd you get your first guitar? Mm, twenty sixteen, seventeen? What? 887 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: But how old are you? Then? That's that's that's not 888 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 1: one twelve. No. 889 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 3: I was like, I was like, actually, I was like 890 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 3: nineteen eighteen nineteen Okay. 891 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 1: When did you sing at first in front of people? Twenty? Wow? 892 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:54,800 Speaker 2: Like karaoke? 893 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: Or when did you sing in front of people, and 894 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: people went, hey, man, you can kind of sing. Uh. 895 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 3: It would have been in college, so yeah, like I 896 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 3: don't know twenty seventeen time. 897 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 1: And why would you why would you have sung in college? Well? 898 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 3: I would just be like the party trick, like we 899 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 3: go out to like karaoke and then we do that. 900 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 3: And then I was one that like vouched for country 901 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 3: music in the weight room on Thursdays and we put 902 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,479 Speaker 3: it on and I'd be like singing whatever was there? 903 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: Would you crush karaoke? 904 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 3: I mean I think like, like I'm not going to 905 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 3: like brag, but like I think I can cover most. 906 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 2: So we know you can sing. It's not bragging like no, 907 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 2: but like some people can't cover songs. It's like this, 908 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 2: this doesn't work. 909 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 3: Like I feel like I can cover like so when 910 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 3: I would do karaoke, I felt like it went over. 911 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: Well, what song do you think you've covered the most 912 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: playing in your history? Ira scugadals that's a good one. Yeah, 913 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: at a party too, that's a killer because everybody knows 914 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,760 Speaker 1: that doesn't matter how sad it is, everybody's gonna screaming. 915 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: Have you ever met him? Johnny Resnick? 916 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 3: I've not, but I heard that he appreciated. I actually 917 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 3: like released a cover that in like twenty two and 918 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 3: from what I was told is he was appreciate, like 919 00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 3: it was thankful I did it. 920 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. That may make me a bad interviewer. No, 921 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: I didn't know you were at least to cover it. 922 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: Was it live? Was it a live cover? 923 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 3: I think it was off the floor. We did it 924 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 3: off the floor maybe like retrack it. 925 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember now, it feels like it was live. 926 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 2: What's live anymore? 927 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 1: You know? Yeah? I agree with that. 928 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 2: Want to talk about that? 929 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 1: Uh yeah? I did a comedy record once while doing 930 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: a couple of live comedy music records, and do you 931 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: know how many people came in and we're like, hey, 932 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: you should you should put in a different crowd a 933 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: live record, Like you can put in a different crowd. Wait, 934 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: oh yeah, like if you miked up in another place 935 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: or find a fake one. When they're cheering and shit 936 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 1: yeah and laughing, and they're like you could find so yeah, 937 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: nothing's live. Crazy. Everything presented as live. And for me, 938 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 1: I didn't have to go in because I was playing 939 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: single guitar and had a buddy with me. So we're 940 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: doing funny songs as part of it. It's two guitars, 941 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: so we don't have to like retrack anything. But I 942 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: have artist friends who have oh you're gonna get me 943 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 1: on one here, who go in and re record all 944 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: the instruments for a live record. 945 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 3: Well, I think we've just destroyed like imperfect, Like it's 946 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 3: okay to be imperfect. Like then we can talk about 947 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 3: auto tune, we can talk about all the stuff. I mean, 948 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 3: it's just like we're so far down a hole now 949 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 3: of things having to be on time and you know, 950 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 3: just perfection. I mean, and the ears are like you 951 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,720 Speaker 3: can start to now like I can hear. 952 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,399 Speaker 1: It, you know, you can hear that it's too perfect. 953 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 2: It's too perfect, or like I just know that person 954 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 2: singing voice. 955 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 3: And then I'm just like, you know, you can hear 956 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 3: things getting pulled directions or you just know or like 957 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 3: now AI, like I've heard stuff that people are not 958 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:31,760 Speaker 3: even cutting their songs anymore. 959 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: Hey, look, I've heard stuff. I'm gonna be sensitive about 960 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 1: this because same yeah, not even heard, I know, I know. Yeah. No, 961 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: there are a couple of weird ones. There's, first of all, 962 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 1: there's auto pin, which is not AI, but people that 963 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,399 Speaker 1: don't sign their own stuff, right, and they just use 964 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: that pen to replicate their signature, and that's their sign memorabilia. 965 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: That would piss me off, right if I bought something 966 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: like that. We sold. We signed two thousand vinyls and 967 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 1: CDs for the record, So you're saying with your hand 968 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 1: you sign those. Yeah, okay, perfect, that's not you. And 969 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: they don't all look at it because I was just like. 970 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: The other thing is I know artists who and I'm 971 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: not saying this is a bad thing because they're not 972 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: using AI vocals on the track, but they can have 973 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: their vocal aid onto the work tape to see what 974 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 1: it would sound like if they sang the song. I 975 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 1: do it. I don't think that's bad. 976 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,320 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I use that feature. 977 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 1: It's pretty crazy. 978 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 3: But just because you know Shay from you know has 979 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 3: a crazy vocal range and sings a demo and then 980 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 3: we put my voice on it and he hits a 981 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 3: note that we dream of hitting. I'm not going to 982 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 3: release a song with him actually hitting the note but. 983 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: My voice on it. Yeah, And I didn't know you 984 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 1: did that. I I have other friends who do that, 985 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 1: and I have no problem with AI used in really 986 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: in great spaces. I think that's a crazy technology though 987 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: that you can hear you say there's a technology for 988 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 1: people like me, Like in the morning, I will go 989 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: in and I do I don't know, fifteen to twenty. 990 00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 1: I'm more than that's the nice pages of local liners 991 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: for you'ren a couple hundred cities, or commercials for national commercials. 992 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,439 Speaker 1: I haven't used it yet, but I'm not too good. 993 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: As soon as they allow me to, I go in, 994 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: make a few sounds and they can make those commercials. 995 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 996 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 3: I mean with each demo that we do, or each 997 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 3: each piece of my voice that gets out wherever, it's 998 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 3: like these demos get better. 999 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 2: So like yeah, I mean you could write a song today. 1000 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 3: My vocal goes on it, which is great for me 1001 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 3: because when I'm gone, I don't have time to track 1002 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 3: four songs to day. The talking voice thing is, I 1003 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 3: mean I do radio liners and all that, and it's 1004 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 3: it's something it's like come across the table where you know, 1005 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 3: it's like can you get somebody else. 1006 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 2: To read your radio liners and then put the A 1007 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:38,359 Speaker 2: on it? 1008 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 3: But from what I understand, so far as they can't 1009 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 3: get like the it's not perfect. Well you don't like, 1010 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 3: hey guys, it's Josh, Like it doesn't give you the 1011 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 3: It just hey guys, it's Josh. 1012 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 2: You know, it's not like it's not perfect. So yeah, 1013 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1014 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 3: But maybe with with you it's different because like you 1015 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 3: do more stuff talking, so maybe it learns your voice better. 1016 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: It comes off slightly robotic. Still, the technology is not there. 1017 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 1: I also, I will use it right whenever it is 1018 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 1: to me where it feels like it's satisfactory as to 1019 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 1: what I would do. I think that's a great thing 1020 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 1: because I think it's just eliminating busy work. Yeah, I 1021 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 1: don't think. I have no problem with that. 1022 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 3: My problem is like people that are making money off 1023 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 3: of records that they didn't even sing. 1024 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,959 Speaker 1: I saw there was the first song that was totally 1025 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: AI that made the Billboard top one hundred this week. 1026 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: Crazy crazy? What do you think? I mean, like, what 1027 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: do you do about it? I mean, I don't think 1028 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: you do anything. I think it's you know, I've seen 1029 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 1: this a few times. I'm a bit older than you. 1030 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: So the first time you see something, you go, well, 1031 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 1: that's crazy. The second time you go, oh wow, it 1032 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 1: happened twice the third time, you're like, oh, this is 1033 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: actually a trend, and even though it's different, it's the same. 1034 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 1: And I think we saw with things like back in 1035 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: the early days when CDs went to digital, digital went 1036 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 1: to streaming, like everybody fought everything all along the way, 1037 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 1: and the people who really thrived were the ones that 1038 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 1: embraced it the quickest because eventually it's gonna run you over. Yeah, 1039 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: so you can get you can get on the car early, 1040 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: or you can get run over by it later. And 1041 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,879 Speaker 1: there really aren't other options. 1042 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,919 Speaker 3: Well that's just get like I like a wonder about 1043 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,800 Speaker 3: Like even my buddies they got like publishing deals and stuff. 1044 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,879 Speaker 3: I mean I have one also too, which is I'm great, 1045 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,760 Speaker 3: you know, but that's not my main income is writing songs. 1046 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,280 Speaker 3: But the amount of stuff now, like the soun O demos, 1047 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 3: and I'm just like, are these are Is there gonna 1048 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 3: be like a jobs for people to write songs in 1049 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 3: five years? 1050 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 1: Well, you don't even need rhyme Zone anymore. You just 1051 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: go to chet GBT. Yeah, rhyme zone dot com. Hey, yeah, 1052 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: not even a thing. Yeah, that's my favorite. That was 1053 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 1: my favorite thing too, rhymeszone dot com. Like, what is 1054 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: the rhyme it. Yeah, yeah, and that was like a 1055 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 1: hack when you had that. Yeah you're stuck. Yeah, pull 1056 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 1: up rhyme zone. Rhyme with cat? Uh does aunt rhyme 1057 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 1: with cat? 1058 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:45,399 Speaker 6: No? 1059 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 1: But can we make it rhyme with cat? I don't 1060 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 1: know what's been the coolest thing? Like the coolest is 1061 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: a weird word to use, but like, what have you 1062 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 1: played that's been that's been super cool where you're like, Okay, 1063 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: I'm at the next level now. It could be a 1064 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 1: festival spot, it could be a TV show, it could 1065 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:03,839 Speaker 1: be anything where you're just like, man, this is cool, 1066 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: Like I might be making it a little a little 1067 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: more this time. 1068 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 3: I mean doing like the live TV stuff like the 1069 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 3: Mark Kelly thing we did a couple of weeks ago. 1070 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 3: Was cool, Like that was my first like on I've 1071 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 3: done some stuff in Canada, but that was like my 1072 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 3: first national thing. Certain venues like Royal Albert Hall in 1073 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 3: London that was super special. That sounds cool just I 1074 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 3: mean for me, it's like a sound thing. It just 1075 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 3: sounded incredible. It's like almost like being at the Rhymem 1076 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 3: and or Ropery. It just sounds It's got like a 1077 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 3: certain sound but just aple like I think like some 1078 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 3: of the festivals is what surprised me even remember like 1079 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 3: Faster Horses last year. Certain ones where you know you 1080 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 3: don't have a great time slot, but then you have 1081 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 3: like a crowd that's there, and sometimes they like walk 1082 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 3: away before the next act goes on. 1083 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 2: You're like, okay, they were there for that. 1084 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: What'd you think of the TV taping? 1085 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 3: It's cool to actually do something live, and the fact 1086 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 3: that they wanted us to again play the instruments live, 1087 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 3: sing it live. 1088 00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 2: Doesn't always happen. 1089 00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: It's like a ward shows, you know, it's just like 1090 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 1: the usually just the vocal that's live. Did you ever 1091 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: see the Alan Jackson video of Yeah the Drumsticks, Yeah, No, drumsticks. Yah. 1092 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 1: We're currently producing we've been We spend a few months 1093 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: on it, producing this podcast about every year of the nineties. 1094 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 1: So it's like the top ten moments in country music 1095 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 1: from nineteen ninety all the way in nineteen ninety nine. 1096 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 1: And it's ten episodes and it has taken us literally 1097 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 1: months to do. And one of them is Alan Jackson 1098 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 1: being irritated that they didn't want him to play fully 1099 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 1: live yeah, and so he had his drummer play with 1100 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,839 Speaker 1: no drumsticks, no drumsticks. He's just sitting there, so cool. 1101 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,839 Speaker 1: I think it's great Like that to me is what 1102 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 1: when people talk about outlaw country, there are two things. 1103 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 1: One I think it's speaking out against the system. And 1104 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 1: I think that's part of speaking out against the system. Yeah, 1105 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 1: I don't think it's how you look, how many earrings 1106 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: you got, how many people you fist fight. I think 1107 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 1: the original outlaws were outlaws to the to what the 1108 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 1: system was. Yeah, totally. And I think Alan Jackson he 1109 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 1: doesn't get credit for that, but that's his outlaw of 1110 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 1: a country thing as you could possibly do. Yeah. 1111 00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 3: I think for me, like, yeah, he's somebody just idolized 1112 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 3: for sure for that. I mean I also I was 1113 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 3: a Steve firl fan growing up and like that was 1114 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 3: that was a guy for me that felt like he 1115 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 3: was doing different than the industry was doing at that time, 1116 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 3: which I think is cool. 1117 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 1: I think you gotta be. 1118 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 3: A little different. And obviously now it's like people like 1119 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 3: to be sensitive, so you gotta be careful that people 1120 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 3: like to be sensitive. 1121 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: No. Yeah, as we talked about all, they had a 1122 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: couple other things for you, uh do No, No country 1123 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,319 Speaker 1: music is it able to be shared here. This this 1124 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 1: part of the segment, give me your mount Rushmore favorite 1125 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 1: musicians of all time, artists of all time, But you 1126 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 1: cannot do anybody country, Cinderello, what really? Eagles? Is that 1127 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 1: your dad? You're my dad? My dad? Yeah? Wow you 1128 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 1: go hair like eighties? Yeah, classic glam rock types stuff. 1129 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:45,879 Speaker 2: My mom was a huge you two. 1130 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 3: Something about the guitar tones in you two, I've always 1131 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,359 Speaker 3: appreciated like a lot. 1132 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 1: So get Cinderella. I didn't mean to interrupt you with 1133 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:52,800 Speaker 1: the Eagles. 1134 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 3: Eagles would just that, just like easy back Road, just 1135 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 3: favorite feels? 1136 00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 1: O favorite Eagles song? Do you have one? I mean 1137 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: it's so typical. Probably take it easy. I mean, I 1138 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 1: know it's. 1139 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think who else I liked? 1140 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 1: Oh this country music? Can't do that. We'll do country 1141 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 1: on the other side. I just don't want you to 1142 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,839 Speaker 1: feel like you have to do all country people. Uh 1143 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:17,879 Speaker 1: are we talking like it could be anybody? We're talking 1144 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,799 Speaker 1: like old old or like still today. If you picked 1145 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 1: four artists right now that were your favorites of all 1146 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 1: time that weren't country Acon, Okay, but you're doing it. 1147 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,320 Speaker 1: You did this song. Yeah, it feels like you're pandering 1148 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 1: a little bit, but I'm not. I'm not. 1149 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:31,840 Speaker 3: I'm not even reaching for you to say that I 1150 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,279 Speaker 3: legitimately know more Acon songs and can sing more Acon 1151 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 3: songs than any other ears. 1152 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 1: Do you think it's fair for me to respond and 1153 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 1: go okay, but you might be pandering? Sure, Okay, yeah, okay, 1154 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 1: I think it's fair. So you freedom of speech. Okay, Well, 1155 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,399 Speaker 1: see that's a whole different thing. Give you one more. 1156 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 3: Um who else? Probably now I get and now I'm 1157 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 3: like tongue, you know, I get tied in. Probably guns n' Roses? 1158 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, patients, Guns and Roses would be like one of 1159 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 2: my favorite songs of all time. 1160 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:03,919 Speaker 1: How did you and Acon come together for the song? 1161 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 1: I just wrote it. 1162 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 3: I was hungover, was gonna do it on my own, 1163 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,880 Speaker 3: try to you know, tease it on TikTok. Everybody was like, 1164 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 3: let's find who his manager is, try to send it, 1165 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:14,399 Speaker 3: see what he says. 1166 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 1: And he said yes, And really was that easy? 1167 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 3: It took a minute, like a full time circle from 1168 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 3: the day I wrote it was probably a year. 1169 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 2: But didn't know what he wanted to be on. 1170 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 3: It meant like if he was just gonna add lib 1171 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 3: or whatever he wrote it, like that second verse he 1172 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 3: wrote himself. 1173 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 2: Which was cool. That's pretty cool, right, full circle for me, 1174 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 2: I mean to do the music video see him. 1175 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 3: I mean I was like the four year year old kid, 1176 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 3: like partying in the living room with an acon. 1177 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty cool. 1178 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,800 Speaker 4: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor, 1179 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 4: and we're back on the Bobby Cast. 1180 00:49:54,760 --> 00:50:01,360 Speaker 1: Okay, do country artists of all time? Gosh, Steve Oleman, 1181 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 1: he's my number one. 1182 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:03,359 Speaker 2: I'm still somebody I haven't met. 1183 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,799 Speaker 1: He was just inducted into the Operrey pretty recently, yeah, 1184 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,439 Speaker 1: which is super cool. Much like the two nights before 1185 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 1: I played there, really and uh, they're all like, oh, 1186 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:12,840 Speaker 1: we should have done something together. 1187 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, well have you met him? 1188 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,799 Speaker 1: I've met him at at the Opry. So everything at 1189 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 1: the Opry's brief, right, So I think I played the 1190 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 1: same night with that he played, and we and it 1191 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 1: was one of those hey man, big fan but so 1192 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 1: many people were big fanning him. Yeah, he probably would 1193 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,920 Speaker 1: not remember meeting me, right, so officially yes, but but 1194 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: not really. Yeah. 1195 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 3: It's weird as like certain artists like I don't the 1196 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 3: whole like don't meet people thing. 1197 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 2: I don't believe that's. 1198 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,360 Speaker 1: SINSI but he wasn't a jerk to me at all. No, no, no, 1199 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 1: I don't want that. 1200 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:42,879 Speaker 2: I don't think so either. 1201 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 3: He's just like he's always for me, been like the 1202 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 3: guy like why like Guitar Town, Copperhead Road, Like I mean, gosh, 1203 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 3: so many Songs's got a song called Someday that is 1204 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 3: like to me just made me feel something as like 1205 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:55,719 Speaker 3: super young. 1206 00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,319 Speaker 1: The fact that you said Guitar Town before Copperhead Road 1207 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 1: proves that you're an actual fan though, Dude, he's got 1208 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 1: songs that are yeah. Because if somebody goes I'm the 1209 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 1: biggest John Mayer fan. Your Body is a Wonderland is 1210 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,440 Speaker 1: the jam that's my favorite. I'm like, you're not Elestate 1211 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 1: ticketyes me. Sorry guys. 1212 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 3: But and then I just like I loved, you know, 1213 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 3: I liked he was really it. Like I had his records, 1214 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 3: I had his CDs. That's all I could listen to. 1215 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,360 Speaker 3: But then I like explored as I got older and 1216 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 3: was like George Strait and uh, Sam Alan Jackson, my 1217 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 3: grandma liked Johnny Cash. 1218 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 1: You know. 1219 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,839 Speaker 3: And then I was in that era of like, all right, 1220 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 3: this is fgl and Thomas Rhett. And you know, my 1221 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 3: first song I learned on the guitar was it Goes 1222 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 3: like This by Thomas Rhett. And then I learned the 1223 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,719 Speaker 3: Truth by Jason Eldan And that's kind of how it 1224 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:43,400 Speaker 3: started for me. 1225 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 1: All right, last question in this little frame, what about 1226 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: your closest for country music artist friends right now? That's tough. 1227 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,799 Speaker 3: It's like friends are well acquaintances. I always find it's 1228 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 3: interesting everybody's friends friends. 1229 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have any other artist like I would say, well, 1230 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 1: friend like real friends that I can call. 1231 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say for sure, Like Bailey's one of 1232 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 3: the people. For sure you're saying in country music. Ella 1233 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 3: is somebody I just called her last week asking her 1234 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:14,960 Speaker 3: for guidance. 1235 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 1: I think cool. 1236 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,360 Speaker 3: So I would call those are really my can can 1237 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 3: be too, It's fine, probably deal under Cameron Marlow. Either 1238 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 3: two of those would be people that you know I 1239 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 3: like a lot. 1240 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 1: Chase Beckham is a dude that I don't know if 1241 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 1: you know Chase at all? Yeah, I know. Chase was 1242 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 1: on American Idol when I was on American Idol. Okay, 1243 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,279 Speaker 1: I like mentored him no way, Yeah, so I mean, 1244 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,799 Speaker 1: but in the way of Big Speed Show. He didn't 1245 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,880 Speaker 1: need my help, right, But he was on the show 1246 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 1: when I was on I was on there for four years, 1247 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,279 Speaker 1: and he was like one of the contestants I spent 1248 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:43,880 Speaker 1: the most time with. 1249 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I tend to be more friends with the people 1250 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,680 Speaker 3: that like want to do low key things that aren't music, 1251 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 3: and he's one of those guys where like he well, 1252 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:53,719 Speaker 3: I just went to Broadway and went to Losers two 1253 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,279 Speaker 3: nights ago and I had not gone in that long, 1254 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 3: and I went to Broadway to watch him play at 1255 00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,120 Speaker 3: Skydeck because I just think he's a great dude and 1256 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 3: I've like owed him we need to catch up, so. 1257 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,319 Speaker 1: And he's like a guy who's really been through it. 1258 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I again, like we will hang out 1259 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,360 Speaker 3: and we don't talk about music, which is like why, 1260 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 3: Like Bailey's like somebody would call for like guidance, so 1261 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 3: what's going on or you know, depending on the guidance, 1262 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 3: you know, and then you got well, it's just you know, 1263 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 3: it's like I did my like one of my first 1264 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 3: tours with Bailey and like his rocket was like just 1265 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 3: going And I've learned a lot just from like what 1266 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,839 Speaker 3: how that you know operates and he's such a great 1267 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,799 Speaker 3: dude and how to look after people. And you know, 1268 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,320 Speaker 3: whether he wants admit or not, there's probably been a 1269 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 3: lot of struggles along the way and I got to 1270 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 3: kind of be a part of that and see that 1271 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,879 Speaker 3: and really appreciate that. So he's somebody like if something 1272 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,959 Speaker 3: like crazy is going on, I would talk to But yeah, 1273 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,320 Speaker 3: I mean I called l about some like mental health stuff, 1274 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 3: just like you know people like that. 1275 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:59,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. I love Bailey and I When Bailey first started pop, 1276 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 1: Bailey grew up like I grew up very poor, And 1277 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,440 Speaker 1: I said, hey, dude, you're getting money a lot faster 1278 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 1: than I did, Like mine was gradual and my success 1279 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,160 Speaker 1: came this because he and he has admitted this now, 1280 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 1: he didn't know what a manager was or a record 1281 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,120 Speaker 1: label and he's down here like interviewing them, but he 1282 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,479 Speaker 1: didn't know what they were. Like it hit that hard 1283 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,720 Speaker 1: in that fast, Yeah, And I said, dude, you're gonna 1284 00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,760 Speaker 1: want to go hard and I get it. The only 1285 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 1: advice that I will give you, because I think you 1286 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:25,759 Speaker 1: have to live it out and learn it more so 1287 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 1: than just somebody telling you is don't get anybody pregnant. Yeah, 1288 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:30,719 Speaker 1: that's the one. 1289 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 2: I think he's done a good job of that. 1290 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,440 Speaker 1: I hope. I think that was the one piece of advice. 1291 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 1: I was like, whatever, dude, you can do with whatever 1292 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 1: you want. Yeah, don't get anybody pregnant. I mean I 1293 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,960 Speaker 1: think that's the rule for all of us. Yeah, but 1294 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 1: everybody don't listen. I don't care about everybody else. Yeah, 1295 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 1: we let's see if answer. I'll see for answer real quick. 1296 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,280 Speaker 1: Let's do unless you guys have like a secret feud. 1297 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:50,920 Speaker 2: No, I don't know about No. 1298 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,400 Speaker 1: If he answers, they're trying to FaceTime the last time. 1299 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,440 Speaker 1: I think they're at a basketball game in La Okay. 1300 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 1: And then we'll wrap. If you how's your experience? Man? 1301 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 1: If you got a poll after this, it was like, hey, 1302 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 1: if you get a call, please give you a review. 1303 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,839 Speaker 1: How would you review this? Comfort level out of ten 1304 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,839 Speaker 1: probably probably eight or nine good good, good interview, ten 1305 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,359 Speaker 1: out of ten good good good Here security four out 1306 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 1: of ten, No, you should fill secure. Let's say if 1307 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:25,719 Speaker 1: he answers, knowing Bailey is probably gonna be like close off, 1308 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 1: run on a motorcycle in his boxers. He's got a poll, Now, 1309 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:32,960 Speaker 1: what times are there? One? 1310 00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 2: Twelve, eleven, ten? 1311 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,280 Speaker 1: He might not be up yet on all, leave a message, 1312 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 1: video message, today's photoshoot. I think every day is a 1313 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,320 Speaker 1: Bailey photoshoot. Yeah, okay, let's leave a message all one, 1314 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,359 Speaker 1: Wait you can. I've never done this. You never left 1315 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,280 Speaker 1: a video message? No, no, hey buddy, it's uh Bobby 1316 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,840 Speaker 1: and Josh. What's up. We were just trying to call 1317 00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 1: to see if you would answer, and if you did answer, 1318 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:00,840 Speaker 1: we were gonna give a chair of your choice on 1319 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,520 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. But because you did, and we have 1320 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 1: to kill a puppy anyway, I hope you have a 1321 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:10,239 Speaker 1: good day, man, see you later. Crazy all right, so 1322 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 1: wild not the puppy, Yeah, exactly, that's on him. That's 1323 00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,919 Speaker 1: not him. The puppy just died, all right. Hey Yeah, 1324 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,960 Speaker 1: good to see you man. Dude again, we haven't spend 1325 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,759 Speaker 1: any time together. We're both probably running. But I'm a 1326 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 1: big fan of what you've been doing musically. It's super cool. 1327 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,799 Speaker 1: Thank you. It's hard for guys to to cut through 1328 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,799 Speaker 1: and be different now, but I think you definitely have 1329 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:37,080 Speaker 1: musically an element that is very original that I respect. 1330 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:37,480 Speaker 1: Thank you. 1331 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't always work, but at least I'm trying. 1332 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,040 Speaker 1: To, you know, who cares if this always works? Just yea, 1333 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 1: this one's not gonna work, dude. Keep the line in 1334 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,520 Speaker 1: the water. Yeah, that's it. I love it. Dude. All right, 1335 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:50,839 Speaker 1: there is Josh who you peeceing too? Oh there's Bailey 1336 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:56,800 Speaker 1: right there. Oh look Bailey, I'll go yo yo. We 1337 00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,360 Speaker 1: were just talking talking about you. Just see the message 1338 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:00,000 Speaker 1: we left you. 1339 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,719 Speaker 6: Oh no, I honestly saw your mistake. Was like immediately 1340 00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 6: called you back. 1341 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:05,880 Speaker 1: Are you California? 1342 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:07,200 Speaker 6: Yeah? 1343 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 1: What are you doing out there? Oh? 1344 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:09,560 Speaker 6: Dude? 1345 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 1: Just writing songs trying to get another album? Dude. Josh 1346 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,719 Speaker 1: was talking about how I just asked him, like, who 1347 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 1: is legitimate friends? Like legitimate friends, and he mentioned to 1348 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:20,960 Speaker 1: you as somebody like a real life human that he 1349 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,080 Speaker 1: would call. Can you give me I don't know. Can 1350 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 1: you tell me what kind of guy Josh is? Because 1351 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 1: we're recording right now, so just tell like a real story, 1352 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,200 Speaker 1: give me thirty seconds about like what Josh was. Like. 1353 00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,360 Speaker 6: I was on the road with Josh. He was on 1354 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,000 Speaker 6: my religious flea the tour with me. And after being 1355 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 6: on the road with him and get to know him 1356 00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 6: for real, he is the softest. 1357 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:43,960 Speaker 1: Most feelings guy there. It is. He's a lover all 1358 00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 1: he wants his love. All he wants is to be loved, 1359 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,560 Speaker 1: and he's tired to get his heart broke. Okay, all right, 1360 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,520 Speaker 1: all right, buddy, well I'll let you get back to it. 1361 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,320 Speaker 6: Good guy, and to anybody and to any girl out there, 1362 00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,480 Speaker 6: he is his shirt if you feel it right now? 1363 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,600 Speaker 1: Husband, material are you is pimp? This is yeah, I 1364 00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:01,960 Speaker 1: got pay. 1365 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 2: I'm paying him a commission, Bailey. I'll send you the commission, dude. 1366 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, make sure you sendmo me. 1367 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,280 Speaker 1: All right, buddy, good to see you, man, Bye, Bailey, 1368 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 1: I see I love it. Yeah, I love that dude. Man. 1369 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 1: All right, there he is. I'm Josh Ross. 1370 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:22,240 Speaker 4: Everybody, thank you, thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast 1371 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:22,760 Speaker 4: production