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Speaker 10: Theorists, crackpots, and grifters to make life or death decisions

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Speaker 10: It's been obvious from the start that Robert Kennedy's primary

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Speaker 10: still stands to gain from class action lawsuits against vaccine makers. Now,

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Speaker 10: Miss Chairman. It's unfortunate that I have to say this,

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Speaker 10: His unprecedented unilateral actions to restrict access to COVID vaccines

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Speaker 10: I consider his delusions. His prepared testimony even today includes

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Speaker 22: And let me just say again, as I said in

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Speaker 10: I'll only say, you know, mister Chairman, that this committee's

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Speaker 22: We'll get to the bottom of your accusations. But at

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Speaker 14: Thank you Chairman Crapo, and thank you Ranking Member Wide

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Speaker 14: Before I summarize what we've accomplished this year at HHS,

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Speaker 5: Who gave his life to stop.

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Speaker 14: taking action. The MAHA Report Assessment, which the White House

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Speaker 2: The committee will come to order.

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Speaker 14: As I was saying, prior authorization, information blocking, and healthcare interoperability.

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Speaker 14: We are also addressing disastrous health conditions in tribal communities

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Speaker 5: In the world.

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Speaker 14: And the people at CDC who oversaw that process, who

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Speaker 14: put masks on our children, who closed our schools, are

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Speaker 14: the people who will be leaving. And that's why we

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Speaker 14: need bold, competent and creative new leadership at CDC, people

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Speaker 14: able and willing to charge a new course. As my

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Speaker 14: father once said, progress is a nice word. A change

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Speaker 14: is its motivator, and change has its enemies. That's why

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Speaker 14: we need new blood at CDC. That's also why it's

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Speaker 14: imperative that we remove officials with conflicts of interest and

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Speaker 14: catastrophically bad judgment and political agendas.

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Speaker 5: We need unbiased.

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Speaker 14: Politics, free, transparent, evidence based science in the public interest.

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Speaker 14: Those are the guiding principles behind the changes at the CDC,

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Speaker 14: and that is what you can expect all across our

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Speaker 14: agency for the next three years.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, mister Secretary.

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Speaker 22: I'll begin with the questioning, and one of the first

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Speaker 22: things I'd like to talk to you about is actually

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Speaker 22: something that is under the auspices of CMS, and I

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Speaker 22: spoke with doctor Oz last night about this. I'm sure

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Speaker 22: you're very familiar with it though, and that is that

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Speaker 22: in the One Big Beautiful Bill. There's a lot of

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Speaker 22: attacks right now going on publicly about hospitals are in trouble,

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Speaker 22: and the blame for that is placed on the bill,

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Speaker 22: even though the bill hasn't even been implemented yet. The

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Speaker 22: fact is, this committee held hearings on the troubles that

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Speaker 22: rural hospitals are facing in the United States before the

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Speaker 22: passage of the One Big Beautiful Bill. They've been facing

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Speaker 22: difficut culties in rural America.

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Speaker 2: For a number of years now.

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Speaker 22: And the bill, the One Big Beautiful Bill, contained a

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Speaker 22: Rural Health Transformation Program which I would just like to

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Speaker 22: ask you to comment on.

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Speaker 2: This is the program.

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Speaker 22: Which allocated fifty billion dollars over the next five years

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Speaker 22: to our rural community hospitals in the United States to

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Speaker 22: help them deal with some of the financial crises that

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Speaker 22: they are facing and transition to more stability. Could you

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Speaker 22: comment on that program that is in the One Big

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Speaker 22: Beautiful Bill.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the Senator.

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Speaker 14: One of President trumscamp paying promises and one of the

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Speaker 14: principal preoccupations, not only of Republican Senators when I did

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Speaker 14: my confirmation hearing. But also almost equally among democratic centers

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Speaker 14: of crisis and rural health, we have at one hundred

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Speaker 14: and twenty Row Hospital has closed over the past ten years.

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Speaker 14: These institutions are not just delivering health access to Americans,

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Speaker 14: but they are economic senators, the air cultural centers for

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Speaker 14: those communities. They are often the largest employer. They are

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Speaker 14: they are the highest paying jobs, and they are the

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Speaker 14: centerpiece for those communities. So when they die of the

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Speaker 14: communities collapse. And President Trump promised to do something about that,

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Speaker 14: and he has delivered on that promise. Right now, we

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Speaker 14: spend about the six percent of Medicaid funding is sent

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Speaker 14: to rural hospitals, a very very tiny slice, and that's

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Speaker 14: one of the reasons they're in trouble. President Trump is

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Speaker 14: now allocated through the one big, beautiful Bill of fifty

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Speaker 14: billion dollars, so ten billion dollars a year over the

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Speaker 14: next five years, what we give to rural hospitals, that

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Speaker 14: six percent represents nineteen billion a year, So we're increasing

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Speaker 14: that by ten billion dollars. So we're we're infusing more

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Speaker 14: than fifty percent increase in the amount of money is

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Speaker 14: going to rural communities over the next five years. There's

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Speaker 14: never been anything like that in history. It is the

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Speaker 14: biggest investment and it should stem this hemorrhage.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you.

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Speaker 22: I appreciate your giving clarity to that, because it is

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Speaker 22: frustrating to see these continuous allegations that the difficulties that

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Speaker 22: our rural hospitals are facing all were created in the

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Speaker 22: last few months when we passed a bill, when we've

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Speaker 22: been holding hearings in this committee about these problems. And

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Speaker 22: in the bill that we passed, we gave a fifty

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Speaker 22: billion dollar boost to, as you indicated, increased by fifty

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Speaker 22: percent the federal support for our community rural hospitals in

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Speaker 22: the United States. And I think that the hospital owners

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Speaker 22: understand that they recognize this support. In fact, they are

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Speaker 22: coming very They're coming together very carefully with doctor Oz

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Speaker 22: to work on the rollout of this program so that

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Speaker 22: we can see this boost and this support that is coming.

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Speaker 22: Another one of the disagreements we have about what really

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Speaker 22: was in the One Big, Beautiful Bill, So I appreciate

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Speaker 22: you commenting on that in the last few In the

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Speaker 22: last minute and ten seconds that I have with you,

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Speaker 22: could you just quickly talk once again about the broad

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Speaker 22: issue of making America healthy again, in terms of our

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Speaker 22: aim to change the healthcare system's focus from a reactive

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Speaker 22: symptom management model to one that focuses on lifestyle choices

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Speaker 22: and the root.

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Speaker 2: Causes of chronic disease.

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Speaker 14: Yes, Senator, you know this morning I got the latest

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Speaker 14: numbers from CDSA that seventy six point four percent of

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Speaker 14: Americans now have a chronic disease.

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Speaker 5: This is stunning.

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Speaker 14: My uncle was president, was eleven percent. Nineteen fifty, it

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Speaker 14: was three percent. He is seventy six point four percent.

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Speaker 14: Eighty five eight out of ten of our kids cannot

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Speaker 14: qualify for military service, national security issue. When my uncle

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Speaker 14: was president, we spend a zero on chronic disease. We

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Speaker 14: spend one point three trillion dollars. It's the biggest cause.

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Speaker 14: It's increasing. And all of the arguments that Republicans and

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Speaker 14: Democrats have about a single payer Obamacare, or the various

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Speaker 14: ways of allocate the health dollars, they are all like

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Speaker 14: rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. If we don't end

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Speaker 14: this chronic disease, we are the sickest country in the world.

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Speaker 14: That's why we have to fire people at CDC. They

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Speaker 14: did not do their job. This was their job to

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Speaker 14: keep us healthy.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: I need to.

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Speaker 14: Fire some of those people to make sure this doesn't

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Speaker 14: happen again.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, mister Secretary.

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Speaker 22: I have to cut myself off to make sure I

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Speaker 22: keep to this time frame too, Senator.

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Speaker 2: Away, thank you very much. Miss Chairman.

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Speaker 10: I've made it clear I think that Secretary Kennedy is

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Speaker 10: dead set on making it harder for children to get vaccines,

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Speaker 10: and that kids are going to die because of it.

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Speaker 10: But Chairman, I'd like to put in the record today

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Speaker 10: an op ed written by Susan Manares, who was fired

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Speaker 10: by mister.

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Speaker 2: Kennedy without objection.

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Speaker 10: So what we know and doctor Manares, you know is

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Speaker 10: approved by Republicans. She wrote an op ed today in

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Speaker 10: the Wall Street Journal, which I've just put in the record, and.

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Speaker 2: I quote her. She said, I was.

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Speaker 10: Told to preapprove the recommendations of a vaccine advisory panel

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Speaker 10: newly filled with people who have publicly expressed anti vaccine rhetoric.

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Speaker 10: So this is not some liberal philosopher or something.

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Speaker 2: This is the CDC.

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Speaker 10: Director who tells the Wall Street Journal, which is not

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Speaker 10: exactly interested in progressive you know, theories and the like

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Speaker 10: that she was told to pre approve the recommendations of

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Speaker 10: a vaccine advisory panel filled with people who've publicly expressed

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Speaker 10: anti vaccine. So my first question, mister Secretary, is did you,

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Speaker 10: in fact do what Director Moneras said you did, which

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Speaker 10: is tell.

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Speaker 2: Her to just go along with vaccine.

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Speaker 10: Recommendations even if she didn't think such recommendations aligned with

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Speaker 10: scientific evidence.

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Speaker 17: I did not.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's a yes or no.

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Speaker 10: So you have an opportunity to call her a liar

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Speaker 10: if you say that you didn't do it.

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Speaker 2: But I'd like to see you respond to this.

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Speaker 14: No, I did not say that to her, and I

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Speaker 14: never had a private meeting with her. Other witnesses to

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Speaker 14: every meeting that we have, and all of those witnesses

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Speaker 14: we'll say I never said that.

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Speaker 10: So she's lying today to the American people in the

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Speaker 10: Wall Street Journal. Yes, sir, okay, let's talk now about

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Speaker 10: what's coming up, because I've made it clear what I've

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Speaker 10: thought about the two hundred and three days with my

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Speaker 10: colleagues Center also Brooks. In two weeks, CDC's Advisory Committee

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Speaker 10: on Immunization Practices will meet to make decisions about critical

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Speaker 10: vaccines that protect us against hepatitis.

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Speaker 2: Being measles, and more.

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Speaker 10: The Committee's got a profound impact on vaccine access.

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Speaker 2: But these aren't ordinary meetings.

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Speaker 10: You stack the deck to ensure the panel benefits bends

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Speaker 10: to your views. In June, you fired all seventeen committee

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Speaker 10: members who were respected scientists and doctors. You replace them

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Speaker 10: with non experts, vaccine skeptics, and conspiracy theorists. As a result,

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Speaker 10: this critical advisory panel has lost scientific credibility after years, colleagues,

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Speaker 10: we spend so much time not looking at this as

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Speaker 10: Democrats and Republicans, but it's good science and scientific credibility.

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Speaker 10: And now the American Academy of Pediatrics has warned that

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Speaker 10: the committee is being politicized at the expense of children's health.

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Speaker 10: American Academy of Pediatrics, you think they're lying to I.

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Speaker 14: Think the American Academy of Pediatrics is gravely conflicted. They

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Speaker 14: get their biggest contributors are the four largest vaccine makers.

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Speaker 14: They run a journal Pediatrics, which they make a lot

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Speaker 14: of money on, that is completely dependent on pharmaceutical companies.

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Speaker 14: So I don't think I wouldn't put a big stake

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Speaker 14: in what they say that benefits pharmaceutical address. Senator I

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Speaker 14: didn't politicize I depoliticize it.

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Speaker 5: The Congress has been they say.

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Speaker 10: All over the country, mister Secretary, scientists and doctors are

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Speaker 10: saying otherwise.

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Speaker 2: They're all wrong too, They're all lying.

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Speaker 14: According to you, the scientist doctors are supporting me all

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Speaker 14: over the country.

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Speaker 5: Oh, there is division on opinion.

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Speaker 10: I don't get letters from thousands of people who are

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Speaker 10: not political saying that this set of changes is going

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Speaker 10: to damage American healthcare and particularly these healthcare agencies for

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Speaker 10: decades to come.

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Speaker 2: I don't get any letters we'll say, Oh, he's going

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Speaker 2: to make a big difference forever.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe you're listening to a selective group of people.

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Speaker 2: Get you, get me, and I.

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Speaker 14: Will find I will tell you what, Senator, I will

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Speaker 14: put my mail bag against your mail bag.

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Speaker 5: Got day.

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Speaker 2: I got thirty seconds.

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Speaker 10: Dangerous respiratory viruses like RSV are on the agenda for

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Speaker 10: the next advisory meeting. Countless parents have been awakened in

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Speaker 10: the dead and night by a wheezing kid, gasping prayer,

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Speaker 10: forced to rush their little one to the er.

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Speaker 2: There's no worse heart wrenching fear.

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Speaker 10: The RSV vaccine offers these kids protection against the worst

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Speaker 10: effects of the virus. But now it looks like you're

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Speaker 10: on a crusade to make infants and babies more vulnerable

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Speaker 10: to the terrible illness.

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Speaker 2: That's what we're doing with the COVID changes. And please

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Speaker 2: make your answer brief, mister Secretary.

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Speaker 10: I've said that possession is indefensible.

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Speaker 14: I think it's pop Congress in investigating that committee for

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Speaker 14: twenty three years because it is it is pervaded with

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Speaker 14: conflicts of interest. Well we did is we got rid

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Speaker 14: of the conflicts of interests when we put we depoliticize

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Speaker 14: it and put great scientists on it.

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Speaker 5: From it a very diverse groom. Let me close, very

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Speaker 5: very pro vacci Let.

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Speaker 10: Me close with this because, like Senator Craig Baumer a

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Speaker 10: few seconds over, I don't think, mister the Secretary, this.

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Speaker 2: Is about you and me.

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Speaker 10: This is about kids being pushed in harm's way by

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Speaker 10: reckless and repeated decisions to get scientists and doctors out

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Speaker 10: of the way and allow conspiracy theories to dictate this

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Speaker 10: country's health policy. I don't see any evidence that you

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Speaker 10: have any regrets about anything you've done or plans to

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Speaker 10: change it. And my last comment is I hope that

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Speaker 10: you will tell the American people how many preventable child

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Speaker 10: deaths are an acceptable sacrifice for enacting an agenda that

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Speaker 10: I think is fundamentally cruel and defies common sense.

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Speaker 5: Thank you to the Chairman.

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Speaker 14: I do I gotta reply, Senator, You've said in that

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Speaker 14: chair for how long twenty twenty five years, while the

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Speaker 14: chronic disease and our children went up to seventy six percent,

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Speaker 14: and you said nothing. You never asked the question why

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Speaker 14: hasn't happening? Why is this happening today? For the first

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Speaker 14: time in twenty years, we're gonna learn that infimrtality has

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Speaker 14: increased in our country. Is not because I came in here,

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Speaker 14: is because of what happened during the Biden administration.

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Speaker 5: That we're going to end.

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Speaker 22: I'm gonna let Senator wide and respond briefly to that,

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Speaker 22: and then we're not going to go over like we

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Speaker 22: just did.

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Speaker 10: Then this committee on a bipartisan basis.

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Speaker 2: Colleague, colleagues, might Cabinet.

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Speaker 10: Secretary says that we have no interest in chronic Carabist.

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Speaker 6: Secretary, Chairman, could we have regular order please, the process of.

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Speaker 10: Turning around the Medicare program with the chronic care bility.

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Speaker 10: Chairman hats when he was chairman and this committee put

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Speaker 10: together on a bipartisan basis.

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Speaker 22: All right, we're going to proceed, and I just want

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Speaker 22: the rest of the members to know. I gave Senator

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Speaker 22: Widen as ranking members some leeway there, but we're going

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Speaker 22: to stick to the five minutes.

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Speaker 8: Senator Grassy, first of all, thank you.

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Speaker 23: I have asked HH secretaries in the past to fully

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Speaker 23: utilize the Rural Community Hospital Demonstration Program Undermadicare. The program

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Speaker 23: has been underutilized in May the cms okay, fail the

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Speaker 23: open slots thanks to your agent.

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Speaker 4: I told you it's going to be a star chamber

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Speaker 4: right there.

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Speaker 21: You saw Widen going right at Bobby Kennedy with nothing

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Speaker 21: but invective. Bobby Kennedy RFK Junior, I thought, had a

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Speaker 21: great response and then when they cut him off.

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Speaker 4: Hey, yo, bro, you've been here for twenty five years.

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Speaker 21: Have you ever been the illness of kids and chronic disease?

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Speaker 21: To make us the sickest country in the world, the

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Speaker 21: most advanced industrial power, post industrial power, the sickest nation

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Speaker 21: on earth. It's the whole reason for the Make America

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Speaker 21: Healthy Again movement. And I can tell by the chats

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Speaker 21: that you're infuriated, and you should be infuriated. I told

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Speaker 21: you this was going to be a star chamber there.

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Speaker 21: This is an inquisition not simply about Bobby Kennedy, but

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Speaker 21: the entire Maha movement and the fundamental beliefs and trying

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Speaker 21: to clean this mess up and really back down Big

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Speaker 21: Pharma from making this country sicker.

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Speaker 4: And you're going to see it.

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Speaker 21: This is this is a you talk about great powers,

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Speaker 21: you know, the great power struggle we have geopolitically right

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Speaker 21: the my crack staff is going to tell me when

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Speaker 21: we got another Democrat, because that's where the action is

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Speaker 21: going to be when they come after him. See the

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Speaker 21: day of the the Financial Times about the parade, the

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Speaker 21: military gathering in uh In, China in Beijing which capped

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Speaker 21: off the at the uh In tinem And Square that

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Speaker 21: capped off you know right there, great powers putin Can

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Speaker 21: you know uh Mini me in North she brought all

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Speaker 21: the all the enemies together, right, the Persians, all of them.

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Speaker 21: As I've said for years, they're going to do what

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Speaker 21: you're seeing this on Capitol Hill right and now play

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Speaker 21: out in real time. The great powers of the of

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Speaker 21: the oligarchs of that that run healthcare in this country,

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Speaker 21: big pharma, big medical, the big insurance companies.

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Speaker 4: This is the finance committee. I'll keep that in mind.

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Speaker 4: This is the finance compete. They really have the overall.

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Speaker 21: That was the first committee that Bobby Kennedy went to

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Speaker 21: for his in his confirmation here. Remember we played the

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Speaker 21: confirmation hearings. Just harken back to that because they're going

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Speaker 21: to throw that up in his face every day about

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Speaker 21: how you change these committees and doctor Malone runs this

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Speaker 21: was an asip right now. Uh, And they said, oh,

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Speaker 21: you promise you wouldn't change it, and you've changed it

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Speaker 21: and gotten all the the hacks off it and put

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Speaker 21: other people on it and firing a CDC. Bobby Kennedy

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Speaker 21: came out at the beginning breathing fire and he say, hey, America,

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Speaker 21: you know the stats are off the charts. We've been

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Speaker 21: getting sicker every year. CDC's in charge of that. Those

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Speaker 21: four people had to go, and he fired him as

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Speaker 21: he has the ability to do, and he fired the

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Speaker 21: head of CDC.

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Speaker 4: Also, Yeah, we're gonna take this break and then we'll

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Speaker 4: come back.

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Speaker 21: We're gonna be look, we're gonna be going in and

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Speaker 21: out of this hearing throughout the morning, because we must.

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Speaker 4: This is one of the many huge.

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Speaker 21: Battles on the deconstruction administrative state, and to be brutally

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Speaker 21: frank about it, deconstruction of the deep state.

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Speaker 4: Because CDC. You have to look for those linkages.

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Speaker 21: CDC is a hardwired linkage into the World Health Organization.

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Speaker 21: And it's time that America took the power back. This

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Speaker 21: is what President Trump gave us with the MAGA movement

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Speaker 21: to make America great Again and the merger and convergence

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Speaker 21: with Nicole Shanahan and the great people that worked for

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Speaker 21: her about Big egg and about you know, getting getting

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Speaker 21: our food right, the ultra processed food, getting it, you know,

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Speaker 21: ending that and getting people to eat healthy again. And

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Speaker 21: she said that the solution of this is in the

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Speaker 21: Soil couple with Bobby Kennedy and what they've been fighting for.

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Speaker 21: We had Mary Holland on last night. She's in the

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Speaker 21: audience right now, and as I'm teasing her, I said,

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Speaker 21: I told you it was going to be an inquisition.

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Speaker 21: These democrats are going to be off the chain today

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Speaker 21: coming at Bobby Kennedy. Now, we're going to put in

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Speaker 21: some other people. I've got I've got a Viva Fry's

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Speaker 21: going to be with us Yon from Epic Times. Jan's

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Speaker 21: got a great piece about the buried lead of this.

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Speaker 4: I gave it. We'll talk today over heritage.

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Speaker 21: The buried lead of this is the most important thing

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Speaker 21: that she and Putin talked about was wait for it,

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Speaker 21: them living to one hundred and fifty years old on

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Speaker 21: freshly warm organs taken from living human beings. Oh, by

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Speaker 21: the way, on the path immortality. If you heard that

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Speaker 21: sidebar conversation a Viva Fry's going to be here, viv was,

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Speaker 21: I would say less than impressed by the event yesterday.

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Speaker 21: And that's why I wanted to show you entirely with

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Speaker 21: no editorial comment, that you guys can start to get

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Speaker 21: this information and start to make your own decisions about

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Speaker 21: where this Epstein thing's going. I don't think the discharged

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Speaker 21: position is a discharge. Petition is going to make it.

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Speaker 21: I'm not sure they get any more Republicans. President Trump said, hey,

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Speaker 21: if you vote for that, it's a hostile act. Mike Johnson,

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Speaker 21: the Speaker, they've got oversight looking at this, are going

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Speaker 21: to release documents. So we'll try to get all that

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Speaker 21: sorted out with Viver Fry and we will returned to

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Speaker 21: Bobby Kennedy as he throws a good thing about Bobby

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Speaker 21: and some one of the reasons I think President Trump

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Speaker 21: likes him so much. He's a fighter. I mean, he's

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Speaker 21: not going to back off. He saw I went right

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Speaker 21: after Widen as he should. It was inappropriate the way.

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Speaker 21: But they're trying to remove Bobby Kennedy. That's what this

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Speaker 21: is about. They're trying to make the case. At the

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Speaker 21: very beginning, they said, put him under oath. We want

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Speaker 21: to get him for perjuring himself because he's a liar.

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Speaker 21: He lied to us in the confirmation hearing. We want

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Speaker 21: to get on and of course they dismissed.

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Speaker 4: That right away.

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Speaker 21: But that's the hardball playing and the good thing about

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Speaker 21: Bobby Kennedy.

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Speaker 4: He's not going to back down one inch. He's not

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Speaker 4: a guy. He's a fighter. You know, you can say

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Speaker 4: a lot of things about Bobby Kennedy.

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Speaker 21: One thing he can he can give a punch as

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Speaker 21: good as he can take one. So he doesn't have

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Speaker 21: a glass straw. This guy's a fighter. I want to

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Speaker 21: thank Birch Gold. We told you, you know, Gold is

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Speaker 21: on a tear every day. I don't sit there and

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Speaker 21: say you got to buy gold because the price. No,

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Speaker 21: you need to learn the process. And we told you

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Speaker 21: this was coming. We've told you for years this is coming, okay.

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Speaker 21: And part of that a corollary is bricks. And guess

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Speaker 21: what Brick's Nations had where they were still in Beijing.

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Speaker 4: A zoom call? What's that zoom call about? How to

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Speaker 4: destroy the US dollar?

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Speaker 21: Birch goold dot com promo code Bannon the end of

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Speaker 21: the dollar empire? Seven free installments number eight and.

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Speaker 4: Number nine are in route. Also, we're don't.

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Speaker 21: Have a physical copy for you that we'll be able

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Speaker 21: to talk about probably early next week. Sure commercial break

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Speaker 21: back to the hearing on Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 4: In the moment.

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Speaker 11: Is justice release the files and the secrecy and stand

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Speaker 11: with us and declaring that no one, no billionaires, no politicians,

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Speaker 11: not world leaders, is above the law. And let me

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Speaker 11: announce now several of us Epstein survivors have been discussing creating.

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Speaker 15: Our own list of names. We know the names.

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Speaker 11: Many of us were abused by them. Now together as survivors,

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Speaker 11: we will confidentially compile the names we all know we're

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Speaker 11: regularly in the Epstein world, and it will be done

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Speaker 11: by survivors, and for survivors, no one else is involved.

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Speaker 2: Stay tuned for.

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Speaker 11: More details on that, because history is washing and so

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Speaker 11: are the women who will come after us.

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Speaker 6: Right, thank you.

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Speaker 24: Two thousand and two, I was living in California, a

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Speaker 24: young woman with high aspirations of becoming an actress. I

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Speaker 24: was already beginning to make a name for myself in

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Speaker 24: the industry. A person I trusted, someone I thought was

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Speaker 24: a friend, invited me to meet a powerful woman who

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Speaker 24: could help advance my career. That woman happened to be GILLN.

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Speaker 8: Maxwell.

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Speaker 24: I was asked to give her a massage, though I

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Speaker 24: had almost no experience, and when I did, she praised

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Speaker 24: me and promised introductions to someone enormously powerful, someone who

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Speaker 24: could change the course of my life. And that man

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Speaker 24: was Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 8: At first, I was.

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Speaker 24: An excited young woman on top of the world. Epstein

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Speaker 24: flew me to his private island. He listened to my dreams,

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Speaker 24: promised to help. But his promises came with a catch.

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Speaker 24: The abuse began. He told me to keep it secret.

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Speaker 24: He manipulated me with quid pro quo. I did not

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Speaker 24: consent to, but I felt I had no one to

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Speaker 24: turn to he was too powerful. I was just one

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Speaker 24: of the many young women trapped in his orbit. I

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Speaker 24: was even taken on a trip to Africa with former

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Speaker 24: President Bill Clinton.

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Speaker 21: Another brigad viver frying here a moment. Let's go back

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Speaker 21: to Bennett is tearing into Bobby Kennedy.

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Speaker 4: Let's listen to.

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Speaker 17: Our system and their ability to have children in the future.

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Speaker 2: Yes or no, mister Kennedy.

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Speaker 5: Doctor Malone is one of the inventors.

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Speaker 2: No, Yes or no?

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Speaker 17: Are you Were you aware that he had that view

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Speaker 17: when you appointed him to this panel.

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Speaker 14: Doctor Malone is, as I said, doctor Mallin, inventors of

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Speaker 14: the m r.

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Speaker 17: Mister Chairman, that statement is not true that doctor Malone made,

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Speaker 17: just as it wasn't true when you wrote the quote

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Speaker 17: African AIDS is entirely different from Western AIDS. Are you

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Speaker 17: aware that another one of these new members, doctor Levy,

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Speaker 17: wrote that quote. Evidence is mounting and indisputable that m

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Speaker 17: r NA vaccines caused serious harm, including death, especially among

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Speaker 17: young people.

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Speaker 2: Yes or no? Are you aware that he said that?

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Speaker 5: I wasn't aware of that, but I agree with it.

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Speaker 2: You agree with it. It's not true.

887
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Speaker 17: It wasn't true when he said it. It is not

888
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Speaker 17: true when you said it, Secretary Month. Secretary Kenny.

889
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Speaker 2: Later this month, your new panel will meet.

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Speaker 17: To consider changing vaccine recommendations for American children. In addition

891
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Speaker 17: to the COVID nineteen vaccines, they are set to review

892
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 17: recommendations for the hepatitis B vaccine, for measles for months,

893
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Speaker 17: for rubella and vericella vaccine, and the RSV vaccine.

894
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 2: These are common back to school.

895
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Speaker 17: Vaccinations for children all over the industrialized world.

896
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Speaker 2: If you change that, you owe parents.

897
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Speaker 17: In Colorado and across the country the benefit of some transparency.

898
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Speaker 17: I think if your panel recommend is changing the vaccine

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Speaker 17: schedule for children, do you anticipate that fewer children will

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Speaker 17: receive these common vaccine vaccinations?

901
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Speaker 2: Yes?

902
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Speaker 17: Or no? What I would say the Senator the obvious

903
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Speaker 17: answers Yes. Should parents and schools of Colorado be prepared

904
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Speaker 17: for more measles outbreaks as a result of that? Mister

905
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Speaker 17: Secretary Senator, how about more months outbreaks?

906
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Speaker 14: I do not anticipate a change in the MMR vaccine.

907
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Speaker 14: You know, as it is an independent panel.

908
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Speaker 17: Well, it's a panel you just put those folks on.

909
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 17: Far from what you said, there are people with ideas

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Speaker 17: that are completely outside the mainstream.

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Speaker 5: You mean, out of the pharmaceutical paradigm.

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Speaker 17: Let me just say, mister secretary, all these vaccines that

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Speaker 17: we're talking about today are free and accessible to parents

914
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Speaker 17: today in America who have the freedom to be able to.

915
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Speaker 2: Make that choice for their children.

916
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 17: Will that be true after your handpick panel makes their

917
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 17: judgments about these vaccines?

918
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Speaker 5: I think that parents should be free.

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Speaker 17: I know you've said that before. I do too your choices,

920
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Speaker 17: So will they be just as free after these dys

921
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Speaker 17: I will hold you to that, Secretary Kennedy, because this

922
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Speaker 17: is not a podcast. It is the American people's health

923
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Speaker 17: that's on the line here. This is the last thing,

924
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Speaker 17: by the way, our parents need when their kids are

925
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Speaker 17: going back to school is to have the kind of

926
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Speaker 17: confusion and expense and scarcity that you're creating as a

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Speaker 17: result of your ideology.

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Speaker 8: I think it's.

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Speaker 2: Critical for you.

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Speaker 17: To share the evidence.

931
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Speaker 2: That this panel will rely on.

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Speaker 17: Will you give the American people six months or six

933
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Speaker 17: weeks in advance the record that they're going to rely

934
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Speaker 17: on to make these decisions. Will you make it transparent

935
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Speaker 17: for the American people?

936
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Speaker 5: All the evidence is transparent.

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Speaker 17: Will you make it in advance transparent for the American people,

938
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Speaker 17: they can call.

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Speaker 14: All the evidence is transparent and for the first time

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Speaker 14: in history. And you were never there complaining when the

941
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Speaker 14: pharmaceutical companies were picking those people.

942
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Speaker 5: And then running their products route with those sames.

943
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Speaker 2: You can make.

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Speaker 17: You can characterize it any way you want. I quoted

945
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Speaker 17: them today. What I said was accurate. When you said.

946
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Speaker 14: Were lies, you just sator moving the Typson.

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Speaker 12: Are you saying that.

948
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Speaker 5: Has never been I was hit myocarditis or parent carditis?

949
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Speaker 17: And I am just saying, I am simple you're trying

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Speaker 17: to tell I am simply trying to say that the

951
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Speaker 17: people that you have put on that panel after firing

952
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Speaker 17: the entire avating the question you no, I'm asking the

953
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Speaker 17: questions here, avating that question.

954
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Speaker 2: I'm asking the questions I have Kennedy question. I'm asking

955
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Speaker 2: the questions for mister on behalf of parents and schools

956
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Speaker 2: and teachers all over.

957
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Speaker 17: The United States of America who deserve so much better

958
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Speaker 17: than your leadership.

959
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Speaker 2: That's what this conversation is about, the Chairman.

960
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 14: They deserve the truth, and that's what we're going to

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Speaker 14: give them for the full time and the history of

962
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Speaker 14: that agency.

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Speaker 2: Senator Cassidy, thank you.

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Speaker 7: I'll try and restore a little calm here. And I'm

965
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Speaker 7: approaching this as a doctor, not as a senator. I

966
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Speaker 7: am concerned about children's health, seniors health, all of our health.

967
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Speaker 7: And I applaud you for joining the president and a

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Speaker 7: call for radical transparency.

969
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Speaker 5: Thank you for that.

970
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Speaker 7: I said yesterday, I believe it that President Trump deserves

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Speaker 7: a Nobel Prize for Operation Warp Speed. If he had

972
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Speaker 7: been President Obama, he would.

973
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Speaker 2: Have gotten it.

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Speaker 7: But because of Operation Warp Speed, forcing the federal government

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Speaker 7: to come to a vaccine development within ten months when

976
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Speaker 7: others said it couldn't be done, we saved millions of

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Speaker 7: lives globally, trillions of dollars. We reopened the economy economies,

978
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Speaker 7: an incredible accomplishment.

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Speaker 8: Mister Secretary, do you agree with me.

980
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Speaker 7: That the president, that the President deserves a Nobel Prize

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Speaker 7: for Operation Warp Speed?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you.

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Speaker 7: But you just told Senator Bennett that the COVID vaccine

985
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Speaker 7: killed more people than COVID.

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Speaker 8: Wait, that was a stake.

987
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Speaker 5: I did not say that.

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Speaker 8: Okay, let me ask, because you also a senator.

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Speaker 5: I just want to make clear, I say, Well, we'll.

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Speaker 8: Check the record.

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Speaker 4: That's a question.

992
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Speaker 8: Of fact.

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Speaker 7: You also said that you were also as lead attorney

994
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Speaker 7: for the Children's Health Defense, you engage in multiple lawsuits

995
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Speaker 7: attempting to restrict access to the COVID vaccine. Again, it

996
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Speaker 7: surprises me that you think so highly of Operation Warp

997
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Speaker 7: Speed when as an attorney you attempted to restrict access.

998
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Speaker 5: But I'm happy, I'm happy to explain why.

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Speaker 14: I have.

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Speaker 8: I had three minutes and thirty seconds left.

1001
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Speaker 7: It also surprises me because you've canceled, or HHS did,

1002
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Speaker 7: but apparently under your direction, five hundred million dollars in

1003
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Speaker 7: contracts using the mRNA vaccine platform that was critical to

1004
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 7: Operation Warp Speed. Again an accomplishment that I think President

1005
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:25,479
Speaker 7: Trump should get a nobel price.

1006
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Speaker 8: You canceled five hundred million in contracts.

1007
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Speaker 7: Now, I grew up in a middle class family, so

1008
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Speaker 7: five hundred million dollars seems this is canceled. It seems

1009
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Speaker 7: like an incredible waste of money. But it also seems

1010
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Speaker 7: like a commentary upon what the President was attempting, what

1011
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 7: the President did, and Operation Warp Speed, which is to

1012
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Speaker 7: create a platform by which to create vaccines. So this

1013
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 7: just seems inconsistent that you would agree with me. The

1014
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Speaker 7: President deserves a tremendous amount of credit for this.

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00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 5: Is this is a question or is this a speed

1016
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 5: you don't want me to ask, because well I want

1017
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 5: to answer that question.

1018
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 8: Please please if it's the question, but b'd be tight.

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00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 2: Please.

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Speaker 14: The first of all, the reason that operation warps feed,

1021
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Speaker 14: which she is is it it's something nobody had ever

1022
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Speaker 14: been done. I don't think any president but President Trump

1023
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 14: could do it. It got the vaccine to market that

1024
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Speaker 14: was perfectly matched to the virus at that time when

1025
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Speaker 14: it was badly needed because there was low natural immunity

1026
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Speaker 14: and there were people getting very badly injured by COVID.

1027
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Speaker 14: And then but he was also it was also brought

1028
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Speaker 14: in therapeutics like hydrox glorok when an ivery, mexine and

1029
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 14: and protocols for treatments and all, and there were no mandates.

1030
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,439
Speaker 14: And then okay, I had another question, so please about

1031
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 14: That's what I began litigating against President Biden's mandates.

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Speaker 8: Now, so let me go on, because.

1033
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 5: Those contracts I.

1034
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Speaker 8: Have limited time as the secretary. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 7: You've called for, and rightly so, that we should restrict

1036
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 7: participation in agencies for those with conflict of interest. I

1037
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Speaker 7: would like to submit for the record an evaluation of

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Speaker 7: the conflict of interests of those who are on the

1039
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Speaker 7: ASIP and the Vaccines that Related Biologic Products Advisory Board.

1040
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Speaker 7: It was not ninety seven percent as alleged. Rather, it

1041
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Speaker 7: was six point ninety percent, and it was one point

1042
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Speaker 7: two percent I think for the.

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Speaker 2: Other panel without objection.

1044
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Speaker 7: Now I am concerned though, because many of those whom

1045
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Speaker 7: you have nominated for the ACIP board.

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Speaker 8: Excuse me, you ex excuse me on that excuse? Can

1047
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 8: I have my time back?

1048
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Speaker 2: Yes?

1049
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Speaker 7: What I am concerned about is that many of those

1050
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 7: whom you've nominated for ASIP have received revenue as serving

1051
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 7: as expert witnesses for plaintiff's attorneys suing suing vaccine makers. Now,

1052
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 7: one of my colleagues in another setting alleged that you

1053
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 7: see more interested in settlements than science.

1054
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Speaker 8: If we put people.

1055
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Speaker 7: Who are paid witnesses for vaccine people suing vaccines, that

1056
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Speaker 7: actually seems like a conflict of interest.

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Speaker 4: Real quickly, do you agree with that?

1058
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Speaker 10: No?

1059
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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 14: May it may be a bias, and that if this

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Speaker 14: closed is okay, it's not a financial witness.

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Speaker 5: It's not a financial Let me finish up and.

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Speaker 8: Let me finish up. You also told.

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Speaker 7: Senator Widen at the outset that you didn't want to

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Speaker 7: take vaccines away from people, and as I conclude, I

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Speaker 7: would like to say this because of the conflicting recommendations

1067
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Speaker 7: made by about COVID. This is from Eric Erickson, good

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Speaker 7: conservative out of Atlanta, Georgia, occasionally gives me help. My

1069
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Speaker 7: wife has stage four lung cancer. She is one of

1070
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Speaker 7: the people that COVID vaccine actually helps. Thanks to the

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Speaker 7: current invest at HHS, CBS is unable to get her

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Speaker 7: a vaccine. Secondly, an email from h a physician friend

1073
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Speaker 7: of mine. Hey, Bill, I'm not even sure what I'm

1074
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 7: asking you, but we're all confused and concerned about who

1075
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 7: could get the COVID vaccine. We are having our attorney

1076
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 7: try and render an opinion, but there's no firm guidance

1077
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 7: and concern about liability if vaccines are given to a

1078
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 7: patient request but not on the current CDC list.

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Speaker 8: Pharmacists are requiring a prescription.

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Speaker 7: Now even for patients over sixty five, creating a huge headache.

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Speaker 7: I submit these for the record with that objection, I

1082
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 7: would say, effectively, we're denying people vaccine.

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Speaker 2: I hate Senator katwill I hate it wrong.

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Speaker 15: Thank you, mister Chairman.

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Speaker 16: Following up on that same line as Senator Cassidy, because

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Speaker 16: that's exactly you know. I represent one of the most

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Speaker 16: science based states in the country, that is percentage of

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Speaker 16: scientists per capita, and at your confirmation hearing, we asked

1089
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Speaker 16: about this whether you would follow science. You've made a

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Speaker 16: statement here today in your testimony that you would follow science,

1091
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Speaker 16: and yet you're not following science. And that's what Senator

1092
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Speaker 16: Cassidy's question was so simple, yes or no answer? Do

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01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 16: you think the President deserves to get a prize for

1094
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 16: warp speed in them in the m r in a

1095
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Speaker 16: technology that saved so many lives?

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Speaker 15: And you won't answer that question.

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01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 5: I answered it no.

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Speaker 16: You're saying that there are problems with what was interpreted.

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Speaker 16: You could say, yes, do you say.

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Speaker 14: The president deserves a Nobel prize? But our m r

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Speaker 14: NA vaccines that we're working on, the ones that we canceled,

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Speaker 14: which are for upper respipt or infections alone, are those

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Speaker 14: you canceled.

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Speaker 16: Five hundred million dollars of research because the r the

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Speaker 16: mr INNA technology is about continuing the research to be

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Speaker 16: ready for the next flu influenza, the next pandemic and

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Speaker 16: you have to do this.

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Speaker 5: I'm happy to give. We have a detailed discussion with you.

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Speaker 5: We got it. You're so wrong.

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Speaker 16: Fact, you're interrupting me. And sir, you're a charlatan, that's

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Speaker 16: what you are. You're the ones who conflate chronic disease

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Speaker 16: with the need forvaccines. The history on vaccines is very clear.

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Speaker 16: This is the twentieth century. That's how many people had

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Speaker 16: vaccines and had illnesses.

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Speaker 15: This is the twenty first century. This is the decrease

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Speaker 15: ninety nine.

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Speaker 16: Percent down to one hundred percent. This is what was

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Speaker 16: delivered with vaccines. And you don't want to support that.

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Speaker 16: You don't want to support that evidence. So, yes, the

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Speaker 16: governors of the West, Washington, Oregon, and California will take

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Speaker 16: up the efficacy of science. Yes, the University of Washington

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Speaker 16: will deliver the science that America will depend on because

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Speaker 16: you don't want.

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Speaker 15: To depend on it. And his own Surgeon General of

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Speaker 15: the Trump.

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Speaker 16: Administration said, over two million lives were saved because the

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Speaker 16: mRNA technology, and you don't want to continue that. You

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Speaker 16: don't want to continue that technology. So what country is

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Speaker 16: going to now take up that technology lead? What country

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Speaker 16: is going to do that, leaving us more vulnerable to

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Speaker 16: some other country keeping the advantage on having the best technology.

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Speaker 16: So I'm telling you I represent a state that's about technology.

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Speaker 16: I have two other quick questions for you.

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Speaker 14: Those questions or statements, because I can answer that question

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Speaker 14: if it's actually a question.

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Speaker 16: Do you believe in having the ACA and the support

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Speaker 16: for the ACA that is about to expire?

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Speaker 15: Do you believe in doing something about that.

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Speaker 14: In terms of the advance of the hands premium or

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Speaker 14: tax minutes? Yes, the Democrats had two chants make them permanent,

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Speaker 14: and they didn't.

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Speaker 5: And they didn't.

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Speaker 16: We're we're the ones who delivered it. So three you

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Speaker 16: do you want to do something about this?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 14: I want to fix the system, and that's what we're doing,

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Speaker 14: fixing systematically to make premium slower.

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Speaker 5: That's what President Trump.

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Speaker 16: Do you think that Do you think the women on

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Speaker 16: the steps of the Capitol were a hoax yesterday?

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Speaker 5: I don't know about any women on the steps of

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Speaker 5: the capital, the women who.

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Speaker 15: Were talking about Epstein. Do you think they were a

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Speaker 15: hoax yesterday?

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Speaker 5: I think they were.

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Speaker 15: Do you think they were perpetrating a hoax yesterday?

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Speaker 5: Perpetuating a hoax?

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Speaker 18: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I have no idea what we were saying. This is

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Speaker 5: the first time hearing about it.

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Speaker 16: Your first that you're hearing about the women on the

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Speaker 16: Capitol steps saying that they believe that the Epstein information

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Speaker 16: should be made public.

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Speaker 15: That's the first ye'ar hearing about it.

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Speaker 16: What I'm saying is you are perpetrating hoaxes you as

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Speaker 16: this Secretary of Health. So you're undermining the whole healthcare

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Speaker 16: delivery system, and you keep trying to point to chronic disease,

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Speaker 16: but you're not putting solutions on the table to cover

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Speaker 16: more Americans, and you're taking away the science and technology

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Speaker 16: that has made us the leader that has saved according

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Speaker 16: to the first Drop Administration search in general, millions of lives.

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Speaker 15: And you don't want to keep that going.

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Speaker 16: So no, I don't support your continued efforts at Secretary,

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Speaker 16: and I definitely think that our colleagues need to rally

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Speaker 16: around science. If you want the Northwest to just to

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Speaker 16: continue to lead on all innovation and all healthy people, Okay,

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Speaker 16: do that, but it's a sad statement for the rest

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Speaker 16: of America and America's leadership on technology.

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Speaker 15: Thank you, mister Chairman the Cube.

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Speaker 2: Senator Warner.

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Speaker 12: It's the Secretary. I agree with a lot of my

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Speaker 12: college statement. I actually hoped I didn't support you. I

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Speaker 12: thought taking on chronic illnesses is going to be important.

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Speaker 12: I've got two kids, so we discussed when you met

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Speaker 12: that have chronic illnesses.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 12: That the focus on red dye and seed oils are

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Speaker 12: going to fully solve that problem. Of course they won't.

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Speaker 12: I would say that that seems where your emphasis. I

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Speaker 12: want to go back to just again some basic fact.

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Speaker 12: Do you accept the fact that a million Americans died

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Speaker 12: from COVID?

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Speaker 5: I don't know how many died.

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Speaker 12: Here's the Secretary of Health and Human Services. You don't

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Speaker 12: have any idea how many Americans died from COVID.

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Speaker 14: I don't think anybody knows because the there was so

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Speaker 14: much data chaos coming out of the CDC, and they would.

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Speaker 12: All take that incentives and these are models. I know

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Speaker 12: the answer of how many Americas from COVID. This is

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Speaker 12: the Secretary of Health and Human Services. Do you think

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Speaker 12: the vaccine did anything to prevent additional deaths?

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Speaker 5: Again, I would like to see the data and talk

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Speaker 5: about the data.

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Speaker 12: And you had had this job for eight months and

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Speaker 12: you don't know the data about whether the vaccine, and

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Speaker 12: the problem.

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Speaker 5: Is that they didn't have the data.

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Speaker 14: The data by the Biden administration absolutely dismald.

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Speaker 8: Who is politicizing.

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Speaker 5: You're saying the Biden administration politicize.

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Speaker 12: All the day.

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Speaker 5: Go back to or can't well fire from surgeon general.

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Speaker 14: They fired doctor growd They fired all the people who

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Speaker 14: questioned the orthodoxy. They fired doctor Grouper, doctor Colchi.

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Speaker 12: Secretary of Health and Human Services, doesn't no matter how

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Speaker 12: many Americans died from COVID, let them know if the

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Speaker 12: vaccine helped prevent any deaths. And you were sitting as

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Speaker 12: Secretary of Health and Human Services, how can you be

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Speaker 12: that ignorant like you know. I remember when we went

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Speaker 12: through the hearing with you. I asked you about community

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Speaker 12: health centers. You didn't know what role they play. I've

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Speaker 12: been visiting community I'm glad you've got to one think

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Speaker 12: in April. I tell you what I hear in community

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Speaker 12: health centers. They are terrified, with all due respect to

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Speaker 12: my good friend the chairman of the big awful bill,

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Speaker 12: because they are going to.

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Speaker 5: Lose health care across the board.

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Speaker 2: They already live in food deserts.

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Speaker 12: They can't get to a nutritionist because Medicaid doesn't do

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Speaker 12: enough reimbursement. If you're going to want Americans to get healthier,

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Speaker 12: should they have access to nutrition ish, should they have

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Speaker 12: access to good science about healthy food?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely?

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Speaker 12: Well, then how is that going to happen with the

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Speaker 12: Medicaid cuts that are taking place?

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Speaker 5: There are no cuts to medicaid, so that is an.

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Speaker 12: Absurd There is not a single so my Republican college,

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Speaker 12: but there was not a single study that does not.

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Speaker 12: I can tell you I was in Franklin, Virginia a

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Speaker 12: couple of days ago. The rural hospital is going to close.

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Speaker 12: The hospital system was so afraid they wouldn't even let

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Speaker 12: me have the meeting there. But that rural hospital is

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Speaker 12: going to.

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Speaker 5: Close, and they are looking for where those folks are.

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Speaker 2: Going to know.

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Speaker 12: I mean, you're supposed to be doing health care policy,

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Speaker 12: not being the doctor in residence for all of America.

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Speaker 12: I hope I can say I'm still going to trust

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Speaker 12: my doctor rather than your health advice. And obviously Tom

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Speaker 12: Cotton is gonna who knows who's gonna trust.

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Speaker 5: But let me go back to policy for customs.

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Speaker 8: So maybe we going to lower the temperature a little bit.

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Speaker 12: I got a bipartisan bill that would be a systemic fix,

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Speaker 12: not a vote buying mechanism. When Medicaid's getting what was

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Speaker 12: put in on the rural hospitals, what are they to.

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Speaker 8: Do as a secretary?

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Speaker 4: Let me have this for a second. We get we

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Speaker 4: have a couple of things. We have to get to this.

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Speaker 21: Viva Fry still with us, So Viva I cut. I

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Speaker 21: had to cut short the yesterday. But right there you

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Speaker 21: saw Cantwell come right to Bobby Kennedy because President Trump

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Speaker 21: did say immediately afterwards, this is all a hoax. You've

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Speaker 21: been covering this, and I consider you a steady eddy safe.

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Speaker 4: Pair of hands.

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Speaker 21: You call them as you see them. I think some

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Speaker 21: people sent me things on Twitter yesterday. You were less

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Speaker 21: than impressed by the Victims by the Victims presentation yesterday,

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Speaker 21: and I want to just add that I think we're

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Speaker 21: the only at least conservative channel to show it in

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Speaker 21: its entirety, because I wanted the audience to hear it

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Speaker 21: all without any commercial interruptions or without any editorial comment.

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Speaker 4: What are your thoughts, Viva Fry.

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Speaker 25: We will start with certain premises, one of which is

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Speaker 25: that ham Bondi's rollout of the Epstein files has been

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Speaker 25: an utter debacle. It's been disastrous, it's compromised trump goodwill

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Speaker 25: necessarily so. And I am of the opinion that Pam

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Speaker 25: Bondi should have been fired even before the Epstein files

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Speaker 25: for her lack of dealing with the Douglas Mackie case,

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Speaker 25: the doctor uh uh I forget his last name, a

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Speaker 25: doctor Morris case, continuing Biden era prosecutions of people under

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Speaker 25: the trumpetman.

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Speaker 4: The rollout has been a debacle.

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Speaker 25: I support the full disclosure of everything related to the

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Speaker 25: Epstein files to the extent it can be legally disclosed.

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Speaker 25: Which is why you know, back in the days like

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Speaker 25: Massy putting forward that motion with Rocana was is good.

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Speaker 8: I support it.

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Speaker 4: There's there's no there's no butt to that. The hearing yesterday.

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Speaker 25: If I'm Douglas Massey, I'm watching that, I'm saying, this

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Speaker 25: is what happens when you when you get into a

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Speaker 25: bed with strange political bedfellows like that hearing yesterday now

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Speaker 25: makes the the discharge petition look like a absolute partisan

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Speaker 25: uh not say witch hunt.

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Speaker 4: It looks like it's become a partisan tool.

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Speaker 25: It's been hijacked and co opted by forces that I

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Speaker 25: think are not after transparency. For the Epstein documents, because

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Speaker 25: if they were, they would have taken that bullhorn and

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Speaker 25: that podium that they had yesterday and named the names

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Speaker 25: that they admit and know that they have.

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Speaker 4: Of their own abusers.

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Speaker 25: So everything that we saw yesterday sent like promotion, promotion

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Speaker 25: of podcasts, promotion of I don't know, hit lists that

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Speaker 25: they're going to be preparing internally, and not even of

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Speaker 25: abusers of anyone in orbit.

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Speaker 4: It sounds exactly like what they make up. Go hang

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Speaker 4: on one second. I'm going to hold you through the break.

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Speaker 4: That's important.

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Speaker 21: Because you wanted to hear at least some names, right,

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Speaker 21: So let's we're going to take a short break. We're

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Speaker 21: going to return. We got viav Fry, We've got Yon

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Speaker 21: from Epic Times, and we're gonna get back to the hearing.

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Speaker 21: I promised you a star chamber. I promised you an

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Speaker 21: inquisition on Bobby Kennedy. The Democrats can't help themselves, lie

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Speaker 21: after lie after lie, but big farmers getting their money's

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Speaker 21: worth today, short break, back in the warm in a moment,

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Speaker 21: America