WEBVTT - How Men Think with Bob Guiney

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<v Speaker 1>We're taking you inside the mind of a man. This

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<v Speaker 1>is How Men Think? And I heard radio podcast. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's Bob guinea here. Welcome to How Men Think. I

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<v Speaker 1>am your guest host for the show this week, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very excited about. Um, very proud to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was on one of the early episodes

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<v Speaker 1>of How Men Think. And I will tell you the

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<v Speaker 1>early answer to How Men Think is is not enough.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's never enough. Men don't think much at all,

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<v Speaker 1>at least I don't. And so I'm proud to be here,

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<v Speaker 1>excited to go through my thought processes with you on

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<v Speaker 1>everything that has anything to do with relationships and all

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<v Speaker 1>the things I seem to be really bad at. Um. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Bob Guiney. UM. You probably know me, if you

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<v Speaker 1>know me at all, from The Bachelor stuff, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a long, long, long time ago. Um, pre Ben Higgins.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like it's like p b h pre pre

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Higgins or post Ben Higgins, is how I look

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<v Speaker 1>at it. I'm in the pre era, so before Jason Mesnick.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it goes way back, guys, before Jessie Palmer

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<v Speaker 1>who's now hosting The Bachelor. To give you an idea. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was on the first season of The Bachelorette

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<v Speaker 1>actually with Trista, and then they gave me my own

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<v Speaker 1>season of The Bachelor right after that, and um that

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<v Speaker 1>was season four. So to give you an idea, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're at season like sixty one right now the Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 1>So pretty crazy stuff, um, but a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Not much has changed on the format of the show

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<v Speaker 1>from then to now. Then it was in black and white,

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<v Speaker 1>now it's in technicolor. So other than that, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we're pretty good. Um. But also went on to host

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<v Speaker 1>a segment on the Today's show called the mentel All Panel,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think really primes me perfectly for hosting the

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<v Speaker 1>show today. For what men think, We're gonna have some fun.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna answer some questions and then we're gonna open

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<v Speaker 1>it up test some live callers Colin and Haze me,

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<v Speaker 1>which would be enjoyable and um, and that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thing we're gonna do today, So it's gonna be great. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I will let you guys know ahead of time. I

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<v Speaker 1>am married now no longer a bachelor, even though I

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<v Speaker 1>still get called Bachelor Bob all the time from all

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff I got to do with Oprah and she

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<v Speaker 1>would always say Bachelor Bob as she would do, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like that one stuck. So everywhere I go

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know, pizza for Bachelor Bob. I'm like, thanks, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. Um, but I wanted to do

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<v Speaker 1>some questions. We want to do some questions so that

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<v Speaker 1>you guys could get an idea to know a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about me. So, um, what are you known for?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us about yourself. I think I handled that right

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<v Speaker 1>mostly Bachelor Stuff. Hosted a bunch of home renovation shows

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<v Speaker 1>over the years. I was also musician, playing a band

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<v Speaker 1>called Band from TV, which is made up of Hugh

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<v Speaker 1>Laurie from House who's Doctor House, Jesse Spencer, who was

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<v Speaker 1>also on House at one time but they became Lieutenant

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<v Speaker 1>Casey on Chicago Fire. And then if you're a sci

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<v Speaker 1>fi lover, we've got Scott Grimes from the Orville who's

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<v Speaker 1>in the band, and myself a bunch of guys from Heroes,

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<v Speaker 1>the old TV show Heroes. I mean, there's a there's

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of people that kind of rattle around inside

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<v Speaker 1>the band. But the coolest thing is we give it

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<v Speaker 1>all a charity. So we'll play all these corporate gigs

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<v Speaker 1>for all these different places, and we'll give all that

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<v Speaker 1>money to charity, which is a lot of fun. So

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<v Speaker 1>my charity is the Children's Hospital Los Angeles and Lucas

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<v Speaker 1>l A, which are two causes that means something to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, Children's Hospital I started supporting even before I

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<v Speaker 1>had kids. Um and UM. I really just always felt

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<v Speaker 1>like kids shouldn't have to worry about medicine and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>They should play and have fun and be a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>So now that I have kids, I can tell you

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<v Speaker 1>that that actually resonates with me even more now than

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<v Speaker 1>it did when I first started supporting these charities. And um,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a three and a half year old whose

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<v Speaker 1>name is Grayson, and I have an eleven month old

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<v Speaker 1>or no, I'm sorry, he's still he just turned one.

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<v Speaker 1>He just turned one last week, so don't tell my wife.

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<v Speaker 1>I said that I have a one year old named

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<v Speaker 1>Blake and uh. And I waited until I was forty

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<v Speaker 1>seven to have kids intentionally, which I'm totally kidding because

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't intentional. But uh, now I'm I'm older than that. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fifty one and I got two kids under the

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<v Speaker 1>age of four. So it's kind of kind of bananas

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<v Speaker 1>to have that going on at this stage in the game,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when I went into Ralph's to buy some some

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<v Speaker 1>booze and really, you know, uh cute lady there taken,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and she's like, oh, I need to see

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<v Speaker 1>your ID. I'm sorry, you know. So I hand her

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<v Speaker 1>my idea and she looks at it and at first

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, oh, my god, you know, she's she's really cute.

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<v Speaker 1>And then uh, she's like, oh my god, you the

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<v Speaker 1>same age as my dad. And that stressed me out,

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<v Speaker 1>caused me shame, and uh, you know, I've been binge

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<v Speaker 1>eating ever since, so you know, I eat my feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, that's where we are with that one. UM

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<v Speaker 1>married for uh let's see, married for for or six

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<v Speaker 1>years and m yeah, So I just moved back to Detroit,

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<v Speaker 1>which is my hometown. UM had been living on the

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<v Speaker 1>West coas US for the last twenty some years, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to move back home and to be closer

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<v Speaker 1>to my family, and uh, in the process, UH lost

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<v Speaker 1>my dad when I moved back home, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>thankful to be here, uh to be with him, and

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<v Speaker 1>so uh, that's it for my personal life. Um, as

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<v Speaker 1>far as it goes. Uh, three shows I'm binge watching. Alright,

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<v Speaker 1>three shows I'm bene watching. I got a couple for

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<v Speaker 1>you right now. One Queen of the South. Awesome show.

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<v Speaker 1>I am hardcore watching that one. I'm kind of deep

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<v Speaker 1>on it right now. I'm almost to the last season.

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<v Speaker 1>So I then started rewatching or re binge watching ted Lasso,

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<v Speaker 1>which I love. I love that show. Also up for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty Emmy nominations, by the way, just as a sidebar

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<v Speaker 1>for you, very deserving, I think, Um, those are the

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<v Speaker 1>two that I'm bene watching. I don't think I have

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<v Speaker 1>a third right now. I'll have to find a third

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<v Speaker 1>for you. But Queen of the South. I highly recommended

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<v Speaker 1>ted Lasso if you haven't heard of it, Like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up? Honestly, it's a huge show and very amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>And um I did finish. Oh god, what was the show?

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<v Speaker 1>I just finished? Um? Oh, Outer Banks, which a little embarrassing,

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<v Speaker 1>a little embarrassed, admit that one. It's sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Saved by the Bell reboot but on an island, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but still gripping, awesome cast, good show. So there's three

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<v Speaker 1>shows favorite food. Um, I gotta go Mexican on this one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a huge lover of all things nacho related, even

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<v Speaker 1>breakfast nachos, which some might know are called Chilea kles.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have actually happened to love Mexican food. And

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<v Speaker 1>but I really don't find too many foods that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't love. Clearly, unlike one of the former hosts of

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<v Speaker 1>the show, I am not the most fit man in America.

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<v Speaker 1>He was ripped and yoked and I like to rip

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<v Speaker 1>bread and shove it in my mouth and eat yolks

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<v Speaker 1>of eggs. A career, yeah, so my career UM started

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<v Speaker 1>off with music. Was really lucky. UM signed a record

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<v Speaker 1>deal right out of college. This is way back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day, and as a result, that's how the people

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<v Speaker 1>from The Bachelor found me, and Um, I was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the people that I never auditioned for The Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually, uh, I wouldn't have thought of myself in

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<v Speaker 1>that in that regard, so they approached me. Well, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>my a couple of people at a company I worked

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<v Speaker 1>with submitted my information about me knowing it, so by

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<v Speaker 1>the time they flew me out there, it was like

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<v Speaker 1>it was two weeks before the show started a month

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<v Speaker 1>before the show started, and that was for Trista this season.

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<v Speaker 1>But that kick started my career and then um, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>then The Bachelor came after that, and then Oprah was

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<v Speaker 1>a big fan of the show at the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>Oprah I thought I was funny. So Oprah made me

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<v Speaker 1>her Man on the Street and I did a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of segments with her, did her show a ton and

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<v Speaker 1>um it was pretty awesome. Uh kind of learned how

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<v Speaker 1>to do interviews from doing the Oprah Show basically, and

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<v Speaker 1>uh from there, it kind of launched me to work

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<v Speaker 1>for The View, which at the time was a much

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<v Speaker 1>different show than it is today. Um, a lot less political,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more fun, I think, um. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>went to work with The View the ABC daytime for

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<v Speaker 1>several years, and then I started hosting a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>HDTV stuff and UM TLC and you name the network.

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<v Speaker 1>I was probably on it at some point doing a

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<v Speaker 1>show that is very forgetful. But I had a long

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<v Speaker 1>string of those game shows. UM never you know, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>never left music and stayed with the band from TV

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and UM, so yeah, it's been pretty rewarding. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I actually host a deal or no deal, which I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you guys remember that show with Howie

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<v Speaker 1>Mandel and the twenty briefcase models back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>And so now I'm hosting that as well, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a reboot of that, and there's a live version of

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<v Speaker 1>that which is pretty cool. And um, on top of that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, trying to hold down my day job, which

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<v Speaker 1>I also never quit, so I stayed. I never just

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<v Speaker 1>left for entertainment, even when I was doing all the

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<v Speaker 1>other stuff. I always kept my uh my feet in

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<v Speaker 1>the finance world. And so I still kick around there

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit, um with a bunch of great companies

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<v Speaker 1>and in one in particular, uh called Lincoln Financial, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a great company and allows me a lot of flexibility.

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<v Speaker 1>They're very nice. My biggest fear in life, Okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>is one I think is is very telling, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>I would say at one point I would have said

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<v Speaker 1>clowns who were kidding. Clowns are terrifying. There's nothing even

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<v Speaker 1>funny about a clown. It's just scary as hell. But

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<v Speaker 1>now that I have kids, um, I mean god, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the list goes on, right, I mean from fear now,

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<v Speaker 1>like the biggest fear I have now is is something

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<v Speaker 1>happening to one of my kids or you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>being there when the scary part of Mowana comes on.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's a lot of things to be concerned

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<v Speaker 1>about as a dad, so I'm dialed into that stuff now.

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<v Speaker 1>But I say, clowns are still probably on my list

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<v Speaker 1>pretty you know, top three easy. Biggest pet peeve I

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<v Speaker 1>got so many. I fly a lot, I travel a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, I hate sitting next to people wearing flip flops.

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<v Speaker 1>Drives me crazy. I don't know why. I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>know why I'm so irritated by it. Um. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>also a very gender specific thing. The lady has nice

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<v Speaker 1>feet and is wearing flip flops. I don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>problem if a dude gets on the plane with a

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<v Speaker 1>flip flop. I needed, I need to move my seat,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And I would literally go from first class

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<v Speaker 1>to the back of the plane if I if I

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<v Speaker 1>had to sit next to some dude with stinky feet. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's probably it. What makes me the most happy?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, so many things, uh, you know, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>a nice tetos and soda with lemon always makes me happy. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, you know, as a dad, I say my kids,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably top of the list. They probably usurp the

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<v Speaker 1>tetos and soda with lemon um, but I would say

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<v Speaker 1>it's a pretty close second. Just kidding. What is my

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<v Speaker 1>ideal Saturday morning? This again, this is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things so I used to always say, even when I

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<v Speaker 1>was a bachelor, I had this thing where I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what's your perfect Sunday morning? For me, it

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<v Speaker 1>was all about Sunday mornings because I had a thing

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<v Speaker 1>back then called no talk Sundays, and I loved them.

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<v Speaker 1>I love them single dude. You know, I just I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to have to have conversations with people on Sundays.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't going to brunch on a Sunday. I just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be on the couch or in the pool

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever and not have to deal with a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of drama. You know. So I was always like, I

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<v Speaker 1>think Sundays, on the seventh day, I'll rest and I

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<v Speaker 1>will allow myself to not have to speak to anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that would still be an ideal day um

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<v Speaker 1>to have occasionally. And for someone who really loves to

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<v Speaker 1>talk like I do, that's probably shocking to uh, to

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<v Speaker 1>anyone who knows me. But I actually do kind of

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<v Speaker 1>love having those days that are you know, no talk days.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, yeah, I'd say this probably still resonates. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I would also say, now, you know, uh, if

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<v Speaker 1>the kids would sleep in, that would be an ideal

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday morning or Sunday morning. Right now, both my both

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<v Speaker 1>my ons, uh, you know, they're they're fidgety and making

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<v Speaker 1>some noise at like six am every day. So needless

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<v Speaker 1>to say, a few extra titoes and sodas the night

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<v Speaker 1>before don't really have you feeling super good at six am,

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<v Speaker 1>and especially when you aren't just waking up and lounging,

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<v Speaker 1>you're waking up and going after it, you know, like kids.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the one thing I learned at my right page

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<v Speaker 1>is that kids don't really have like a chill button.

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<v Speaker 1>They wake up at six am and it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>full speed ahead. They want to play, they want to

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<v Speaker 1>go outside, they want to you know, take a car ride,

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<v Speaker 1>they want to you know, wrestle. I mean, it's it's endless,

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<v Speaker 1>it's awesome, but it's definitely not something for the faint

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<v Speaker 1>of heart. Are you more of the athlete or the

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<v Speaker 1>armshare quarterback? So I was an athlete my whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>I played football in college and played a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>sports previous to that, and UM, considered myself still a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good athlete. I guess up until a few years ago, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>when I just my body just started falling. Apart from

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<v Speaker 1>all the needs, surgeries and everything else, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>say I was definitely an athlete for the longest period

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<v Speaker 1>of time. And now I'm probably a little mix of both.

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<v Speaker 1>Like right now, I'm trying to get myself into pickleball

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<v Speaker 1>and h I'm very judgy of other pickle ballers. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I've only played once, but I still think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm super good at it. Um basketball, love to play basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>still love to throw the football around, trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>my son to, you know, play t ball with me,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, but I think when I think about myself

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<v Speaker 1>as an athlete now, I'm probably more of a a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what do you call it? Be a bag

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<v Speaker 1>thrower like cornhole? Right, so, um that's my sport now bowling,

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<v Speaker 1>although I don't bowl, but if I did, that would

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<v Speaker 1>be a good one. Lawn darts, you know, low impact, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>loll im pet and uh, high scoring potential. What keeps

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<v Speaker 1>you motivated. Um, I've always been a pretty motivated person,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm someone who's I'm very self motivated. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>like to think that, you know, I'm getting out of

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<v Speaker 1>bed every day, I'm gonna do something fun. If it's

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<v Speaker 1>not fun, why do it. It's kind of always been

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<v Speaker 1>my mantra um. But you know, now having children, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think it's gonna be awesome. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>keep me young. Right, I'm still gonna look like their

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<v Speaker 1>grandpa t ball games or softball games or baseball games,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever sports they play as I get older, which is

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna happen, right. You know, I'm gonna be like

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<v Speaker 1>the my ten year olds game. They'll be like, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Grandpa is so nice coming to all these games. My

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<v Speaker 1>walker was like, no, that's that's my dad. Um, So

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be my life regardless. But um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna keep me young at heart anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, so if nothing else, I'm gonna you know,

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<v Speaker 1>remain active enough, uh to have you know, two boys

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<v Speaker 1>at least until they're both eighteen. So that gives me,

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<v Speaker 1>that gives me tom seventy ish close to it anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I would say that's a pretty big motivator.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I want my kids to have things that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have as a kid, which, um, frankly, I

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<v Speaker 1>had had amazing parents, an amazing family. I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>for much. But you know, the times are changing, so

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta get you know, I gotta get an iPhone

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<v Speaker 1>in first grade. I guess, I don't know. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what the deal is. I'm trying to find like

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<v Speaker 1>a manual on that because I think it might be

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<v Speaker 1>a little early first grade, you know, maybe sixth grade,

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<v Speaker 1>seventh grade, tenth grade. I don't really know. I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to know. I'd like to know what all the parents

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<v Speaker 1>out there think. Um, but uh yeah, that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>would say. Keeps me motivated, are uh is keeping up

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<v Speaker 1>with my kids and making sure that you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>still will listen to me even if I can't hear

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<v Speaker 1>them properly. So all right, so that's our eleven questions

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<v Speaker 1>with me. That's the top of the show here for

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<v Speaker 1>how men think. And we're gonna take a quick break

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<v Speaker 1>and when we come back, we're gonna take some questions

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<v Speaker 1>from some of you all, So stick with us, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. To How Men Think. I am your guest

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<v Speaker 1>host for the week, Bob Guinea. We are very excited.

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<v Speaker 1>We got some live callers calling in to ask me

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<v Speaker 1>some questions, and I don't know what they are. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try and do my very best to answer them

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<v Speaker 1>honestly or not, depending on the question, but you're never

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<v Speaker 1>gonna know the difference, so I guess it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, we're back here with How Men Think. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go to our first caller calling in. Her name is

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Anne. Hi, Jolianne. How are you? I'm great. How

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing, Bob? I'm doing great. Thanks for calling

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<v Speaker 1>into How Men Think? I mean, this is I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it's unusual that I would expect it to I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it would have been a guy calling. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why it doesn't. I should have expected a woman. So

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for colin. I mean, we're trying to find out

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<v Speaker 1>how men think here, right, So let me hopefully I

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<v Speaker 1>can answer your questions. So what do you got for me? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I am divorced in my forties and I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if like men are interested like dating someone like me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm for you one, No kids, are people interested in that?

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<v Speaker 1>In addition to that, are they like, how do I

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<v Speaker 1>get in the dating game? I literally have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>how to navigate any of this. Yeah, and how long

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<v Speaker 1>were you married before you get divorced? We were married

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<v Speaker 1>for ten years? Okay, so you got married at what

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one? Right? And got divorced at for any one?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? I mean honestly, I happened to also be

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<v Speaker 1>a previously divorced person, and I can honestly say sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>life begins after divorce, you know what I mean? So

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<v Speaker 1>I think you'd be I think you'd be doing yourself

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<v Speaker 1>a disservice by trying to, like, you know, pigeonhole yourself

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<v Speaker 1>as do people want to date someone like me? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>forty want to divorced. I mean more than of the

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<v Speaker 1>population is divorced or has been divorced, right, So I

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<v Speaker 1>get it, though, you feel like when you go through

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<v Speaker 1>a divorce, if you're anything like me, even if you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted the divorce, you still feel like a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a like you failed at something you know, or you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you have this stigma about you because maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you're the only person in your family immediate family that

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<v Speaker 1>got divorced and everyone else has stayed together or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>that was the case with me anyway, was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my sister and brother in law have been together like

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<v Speaker 1>thirty some years. My parents, you know, we celebrated their

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<v Speaker 1>fifty sixth wedding anniversary before my dad passed. And it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and here I was, you know, getting divorced,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and UM, but I feel like life kind

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<v Speaker 1>of begins a little bit after that because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>now you know what you want and you know who

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<v Speaker 1>you are, and you're really comfortable, I would think, or

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<v Speaker 1>at least if you're not, then that's your first thing

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<v Speaker 1>to do is get comfortable, you know, get comfortable with

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<v Speaker 1>yourself because you know, UM, the best part about this

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<v Speaker 1>and I say this as someone who I was also

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<v Speaker 1>divorced without kids, that's that's a good thing, um, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one of the things that UM, I think

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<v Speaker 1>would have been hard for me, and this is just

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<v Speaker 1>speaking personally if I did have kids with one of

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<v Speaker 1>my access was having that relationship kind of continue in

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<v Speaker 1>my life while I was trying to find you know,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to have a new one. And UM, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>are you like that? Would you think you would have

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<v Speaker 1>felt that same way? Because it is almost like a

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<v Speaker 1>burden released that you don't you didn't have kids previously.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that is the case, just because my

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<v Speaker 1>relationship was definitely tumultuous, so I don't know if the

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<v Speaker 1>co parenting thing would have worked out. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, you know how people have that judgment on

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<v Speaker 1>your this age, you've been married and you don't have kids.

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<v Speaker 1>That's weird. Yeah, people judge everything. People suck to a

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<v Speaker 1>certain degree. And I don't know if I can say that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would say that that is kind of true

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<v Speaker 1>because everybody lives in this glass house and there, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I can say this. I I just did

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<v Speaker 1>this article for some magazine recently. I can't remember what

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<v Speaker 1>it was. And they asked me, like, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you had advice to give to a um, to a parent,

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<v Speaker 1>what would your vice be, And and I said, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>my vice wouldn't be to parents. My advice with people

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<v Speaker 1>who aren't parents. Stop judging parents. You know, Like it's tough, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you you go to a restaurant and you sit

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<v Speaker 1>down and you see some kids sitting there with an

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<v Speaker 1>iPad and you're like, oh my god, if my kid

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<v Speaker 1>will never do that. Uh, yeah, they will, and you

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<v Speaker 1>want them to do that so you can have like

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes to eat your spaghetti because your kid is

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<v Speaker 1>driving you bananas. And I say that as someone who

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<v Speaker 1>loves my kids. So it's like, you know, until we walk,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in somebody else's shoes, it's really easy to judge.

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<v Speaker 1>And it might be that might be some of your

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<v Speaker 1>own judgment too, because I know I did that to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was like, oh my god, people are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm a total loser, you know, I mean, go

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<v Speaker 1>on the Bachelor, end up being divorced, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because I actually met and married someone who wasn't on

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<v Speaker 1>the show and we end up getting divorced. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was you know obviously you know, public and all that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff, and it sucked because I was pre

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<v Speaker 1>judging me for everyone else. In my mind, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>they probably think this of me when you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think we give ourselves a little too much

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<v Speaker 1>pressure in that regard because everybody, I think is so

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<v Speaker 1>worried about their own life right now that they don't

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<v Speaker 1>really even have time to focus on yours, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. So it's like I think, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so it's almost easier for you to give

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<v Speaker 1>yourself a break and just be like, look, man, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing me now. I'm forty one, I'm single. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>need a relationship. I don't need a man to make

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<v Speaker 1>me happy. But I'm gonna make myself happy first and

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<v Speaker 1>then who knows, you know, maybe I'll step into something

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<v Speaker 1>that will be awesome. And um, that that really did

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<v Speaker 1>happen to me. Like I met my wife, uh, my

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<v Speaker 1>now wife, Um, I didn't want to be married. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, I'm never getting me. I told her

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<v Speaker 1>I was never getting married, and uh, that was clearly

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<v Speaker 1>wrong because now I'm married with two kids, So I

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<v Speaker 1>totally screwed that up. But I was so focused just

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<v Speaker 1>on being happy with myself and not worrying about trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find the next whatever. And I think, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's that's a powerful position for you to

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<v Speaker 1>be in. So you know, I think you shouldn't. You

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<v Speaker 1>should try to celebrate it a little bit and give

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<v Speaker 1>yourself a bit of a break. I hope that helps.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. Yes, you're welcome. It's nice talking

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<v Speaker 1>to you. Thank you, Hey, Jada, thanks for calling Holman.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank how are you I'm doing good. How are you doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing pretty well today. Thanks. You have a question

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<v Speaker 1>for me? They do? Um. So, I've been married for

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<v Speaker 1>about five years now, and my husband and I we

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<v Speaker 1>just had a baby girl, and she's beautiful and I

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<v Speaker 1>love her. Uh, but lately I've been kind of feeling

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<v Speaker 1>like my husband is pulling away because of course, like

0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:16.640
<v Speaker 1>our priority has been around the baby. And yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>just not as close like intimately as we as we

0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:24.640
<v Speaker 1>used to be. So it's been an adjustment for both

0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:27.040
<v Speaker 1>of us. And I just want to I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get some advice on how to get the spark going again. Uh.

0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:36.199
<v Speaker 1>Is this your first your first child? Yes? Okay? And

0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:42.040
<v Speaker 1>how old is she? She's about six months now, okay, okay,

0:22:42.080 --> 0:22:44.040
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so we're not too far off. I have

0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:48.160
<v Speaker 1>a one year old just turned one. Um, baby boy.

0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:50.639
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they'll meet someday, who knows, maybe they'll date. This

0:22:50.680 --> 0:22:53.680
<v Speaker 1>would be amazing. Um, excuse me. And then I also

0:22:53.680 --> 0:22:55.840
<v Speaker 1>have a three year old. You know, I mean it's tough,

0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I'll say, honestly, you know, it's I don't think there's

0:22:58.960 --> 0:23:01.919
<v Speaker 1>any boiler plate and for this, I mean, at the

0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:04.159
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, it's like you know, your priorities

0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:08.400
<v Speaker 1>have shifted, and as they should, you know, and it's

0:23:08.440 --> 0:23:11.800
<v Speaker 1>hard because you're you know, all of your time and

0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:15.440
<v Speaker 1>energy and effort is going towards keeping this beautiful little

0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:19.200
<v Speaker 1>baby alive and healthy. And you know, the baby doesn't

0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:21.400
<v Speaker 1>care if you guys are gonna have you know, mommy

0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and Daddy night date night, the babies starts crying date

0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:27.280
<v Speaker 1>nights over, you know, And um, I mean my wife

0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:29.399
<v Speaker 1>and I struggle with it too, I think, uh, I

0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:34.040
<v Speaker 1>think everybody does you know? And um man, I this

0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:38.040
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be uh maybe a terrible thing to say,

0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:43.280
<v Speaker 1>but I love counseling, like therapy, and I never really

0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:45.400
<v Speaker 1>did it. I grew up in the Midwest. It wasn't

0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:48.639
<v Speaker 1>really something that you know, we did where I was

0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:51.919
<v Speaker 1>from and where I grew up. And then I landed

0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:53.720
<v Speaker 1>on the West Coast for a long time and there

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:55.960
<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know, you have your therapist, and you

0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:58.159
<v Speaker 1>have your chiropractor, and you have you know, everybody on

0:23:58.200 --> 0:24:01.800
<v Speaker 1>speed dial. Um. But it's nice to get into a

0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:04.040
<v Speaker 1>room with somebody and you can do it now, you know,

0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:06.520
<v Speaker 1>post COVID, you can do it online. You can do

0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:09.320
<v Speaker 1>an online session even where you you, you and your

0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:11.159
<v Speaker 1>husband can just sit there and have someone else to

0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:14.440
<v Speaker 1>talk to you about what's going on and how you're

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:18.919
<v Speaker 1>feeling and you know, what's bothering each of you, but

0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:21.960
<v Speaker 1>also just what's concerning you, right, I mean, because everything

0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:25.240
<v Speaker 1>that we get upset about or irritated by generally is

0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:28.879
<v Speaker 1>driven from fear, right, whether it's fear of what's going

0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:31.760
<v Speaker 1>to happen in the future, or fear of dealing with

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:34.120
<v Speaker 1>what we're dealing with, you know right now. I mean

0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:36.480
<v Speaker 1>there's a million things. And like I said, I think

0:24:36.480 --> 0:24:38.840
<v Speaker 1>every couple goes through it, especially when they have a child.

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:42.159
<v Speaker 1>So I don't think you're that far off. Um, but

0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:44.159
<v Speaker 1>I also understand what you're saying. It's like, you know,

0:24:44.200 --> 0:24:47.240
<v Speaker 1>you want to communicate better, and you want to you know.

0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, for for my wife and I are

0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:51.120
<v Speaker 1>big thing was, you know, we wanted to learn how

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:54.399
<v Speaker 1>to disagree, learn how to fight, not not you know,

0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:56.520
<v Speaker 1>fight fight, but like learn how to have an argument

0:24:56.840 --> 0:25:00.919
<v Speaker 1>without just immediately shutting the other person down. And um,

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:02.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I think those kind of things come

0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:07.160
<v Speaker 1>from frustration and exhaustion. I mean, you probably haven't slept

0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:08.879
<v Speaker 1>well in a while, you know, because you've got a

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:12.080
<v Speaker 1>six month old, so I think, you know, give yourself

0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:13.520
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a break. I think I think

0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:15.520
<v Speaker 1>you're you're you know, all you all you, each of

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:17.479
<v Speaker 1>you can do is as much as you can do.

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:21.879
<v Speaker 1>And if you know, if the if the relationship is

0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:24.720
<v Speaker 1>worth the effort, which it sounds like it is, and

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:26.760
<v Speaker 1>you have a new baby and everything else, then it

0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:28.919
<v Speaker 1>might be helpful to talk to somebody that will just

0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 1>listen to the two of you, not necessarily sit there

0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:34.359
<v Speaker 1>and bitch about each other, but like to talk about

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:37.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, what's you know, what's causing you concern, and

0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:39.919
<v Speaker 1>what's making you nervous, and what's making you upset, and

0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:43.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you're feeling, uh like you want to

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:46.240
<v Speaker 1>be physical more than he is or vice versa, you know,

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:49.080
<v Speaker 1>what do we do about that? And you know, I mean,

0:25:49.160 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to say I had answers for that kind

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:52.840
<v Speaker 1>of stuff, but at the end of the day, I

0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:56.120
<v Speaker 1>think the biggest answer is just to to give yourself

0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the freedom of knowing that you're kind of in the

0:26:00.000 --> 0:26:03.800
<v Speaker 1>middle of this, you know, period of your life where

0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:08.639
<v Speaker 1>things are changing rapidly and hugely, in that you know

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:10.840
<v Speaker 1>your guy's responsibility is no more just your commitment to

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:12.879
<v Speaker 1>each other, but as your commitment to your kid and

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 1>then but you still can't forget about that commitment to

0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:18.200
<v Speaker 1>each other either. So you know, my wife and I

0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:20.159
<v Speaker 1>have struggled with it too. So I think you to

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:23.880
<v Speaker 1>know you're not alone. I hope that helps a little. Um,

0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:26.840
<v Speaker 1>But other than that, you know, I would say, definitely

0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 1>try try to find someone to kind of bridge the

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:31.159
<v Speaker 1>gap for you guys conversationally, and maybe you'll be in

0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:35.399
<v Speaker 1>a good spot where you can, you know, um, arrive

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:39.280
<v Speaker 1>at at something that works for both of you. You know. Awesome,

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, You're welcome. I hope it helps, it does

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I I think it will for sure. Awesome. Well, good

0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:49.840
<v Speaker 1>luck with it. And next time I'm hosting this thing

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:52.600
<v Speaker 1>called back and we can talk about how it went,

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:55.480
<v Speaker 1>and I'll tell you how it's going for me to Okay,

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:58.880
<v Speaker 1>that sounds good, all right, awesome, Thanks Jada, Thank you.

0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Hi Delaney, you're on homn Think with Bob Guinny. How

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:06.960
<v Speaker 1>are you good? How are you? I'm doing well? Thanks?

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:08.399
<v Speaker 1>What are you calling in for today? What kind of

0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:11.679
<v Speaker 1>questions you got? So? I'm single, but I've had a

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:15.120
<v Speaker 1>few instances where I've had amazing conversations with the guy

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 1>while I was out and I feel like we connected

0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:20.879
<v Speaker 1>and divided. But they've never asked for my number at

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 1>the end of the night. And so I guess my

0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:25.639
<v Speaker 1>question is if they don't ask for it, does that

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:29.679
<v Speaker 1>mean they aren't interested? And is it too forward to

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 1>ask for their numbers? Is do you guys like that

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:35.960
<v Speaker 1>if we do? I think totally. I think you should

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 1>totally ask for the numbers if you're if you're feeling

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:40.359
<v Speaker 1>a vibe from them, and you know, and there's a

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 1>different way to do it too. You know. I had

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:44.960
<v Speaker 1>someone one time who I thought was it was pretty cool.

0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:47.119
<v Speaker 1>She actually she said, let me see your phone and

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I was like what And she put my like her

0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 1>number in my phone and hit send and it like

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:56.119
<v Speaker 1>called her, you know, and she's like, Okay, now we

0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:59.600
<v Speaker 1>have each other's numbers and um. And it was kind

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:02.919
<v Speaker 1>of cute and flirty and funny. Um. And it was

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 1>it was a different way to do it, you know,

0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 1>but it was like it was kind of it was

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:09.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of cool because if it was for that moment,

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 1>at least it worked for our situation. You know. It

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:15.120
<v Speaker 1>was casual and it was fun, and and it wasn't

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:18.439
<v Speaker 1>anything like you know, uh, it wasn't anything where it

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:20.880
<v Speaker 1>was like someone felt like they had to put something

0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:22.719
<v Speaker 1>in their calendar to call on a certain date and

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, be held to the you know, to anything.

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 1>But it was it was also cool though, because you know,

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 1>later that night, like she texted, it was like, you know,

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 1>it was a great meeting you tonight, blah blah blah blah.

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:34.159
<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure you have a million phone numbers in

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:35.919
<v Speaker 1>your phone, my names, you know, Jenny or whatever. And

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:37.720
<v Speaker 1>it was like I was like, oh my god, that's

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 1>so that's cool. You know, it was like a different

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 1>way to go about it. So I don't think in

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:44.239
<v Speaker 1>and you know, in the life of the day we

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 1>live in right now, I don't think it's it's too forward.

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's you know, um out of place.

0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's if you're interested in someone and

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, you don't even know, I mean, they might

0:28:56.600 --> 0:28:58.480
<v Speaker 1>be on dating apps, or you might be on dating

0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 1>apps or whatever. You know, there's could be a million

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 1>different things that's pulling their attention and so you know,

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 1>something like that is kind of a fun you know,

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>like I said, like not really, uh, super kind of

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 1>in your face way of giving each other a way

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 1>to contact one another and kind of letting it go

0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 1>from there. You know. So if if one of you

0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>reaches out and the other one doesn't, well there you go.

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Now you have your answer, you know, um, and vice versa.

0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 1>But it's fun and it's playful enough that it's like, um,

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I I'll just say I really liked it.

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:30.880
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was a cool way to go and

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 1>and um, and I ended up you know, uh, really

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 1>we didn't end up together forever, but you know, we

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 1>ended up getting to hang out a little bit and

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 1>have some fun and um, and it was something that

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I thought was like a really redeeming quality of that person,

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, years later when I look back at it. So,

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a cool way to go. What do

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:50.320
<v Speaker 1>you think you think you would do it? Yeah? I mean,

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 1>after hearing what you just said, I mean, why not? Yeah.

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's kind of a fun thing too, because

0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:58.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're you're not saying you're necessarily gonna call them,

0:29:58.200 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 1>You're not saying you're you know, you're just saying, hey,

0:29:59.840 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 1>this moment, I think you're kind of fun duty duty

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 1>do and then you know, you might change your mind

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 1>to meet somebody else ten minutes later that you like

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 1>better and be like over that dude, you know so

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 1>and another thing. So when you do that, I will

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 1>tell you something that my wife does or did. And

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:18.239
<v Speaker 1>it's funny because you know, years later, she still has

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 1>phone numbers in her phone of you know, dude she

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 1>met or whatever, and she would always put like descriptors

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:25.240
<v Speaker 1>in there, so like if you know, it would be like,

0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:27.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, she has a friend and her name is like,

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, Debbie, and it's like Debbie, party girl, you

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 1>know whatever, blonde, you know, And so she has all

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:34.520
<v Speaker 1>these descriptors in her phone, and so when the person

0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 1>would call her, it would kind of like signify something

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:39.680
<v Speaker 1>that would make her remember that person, and um, you know,

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 1>and that's something too, like you can walk away from

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 1>that conversation and go to the bathroom or whatever and

0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 1>put that person in your context and be like, you know, Jim,

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 1>you know dark hair, uh, you know BMX rider or

0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 1>something I don't know, and it's like, okay, now I

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:55.719
<v Speaker 1>remember you remember something from the conversation that will trigger

0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 1>you if you don't hear from him in like two weeks, um,

0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, but it's also a cool way for you

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:05.040
<v Speaker 1>to kind of control the narrative to Yeah, I completely agree.

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 1>So well, good luck with it. I hope it works.

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 1>You're welcome. Take care. Hi, Kate, how are you good?

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:18.240
<v Speaker 1>How are you well? I'm doing great? Thanks? What do

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 1>you guys? A question for me? Well, um, you know,

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 1>just lately, um, my husband has been doing a lot

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 1>of work. He's been working more you know, lots of overtime,

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 1>late hours, and when he comes home, he's super like,

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 1>like almost mean, he's agitated, he's stressed out, he's snapping

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 1>at me and the kids, and it's just really irritating.

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 1>And the thing is, he doesn't have to work late,

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have to do all this overtime, but he

0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 1>says that he wants to do it because he's making

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 1>extra money for us to be able to provide you know,

0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 1>like vacations and things for the house, things for the kids. Um.

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 1>And so you know, I'm really torn about this because,

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, on one hand, I'm really grateful and appreciative

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:15.760
<v Speaker 1>that he wants to provide for us so that we

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>can have all of these things, which is nice. But

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 1>on the other hand. I feel like him providing and

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 1>doing all this extra work so that we can have

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 1>this stuff, which is nice to have, but it doesn't

0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 1>really matter to me. It's costing us emotionally because I

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 1>almost hate it when he comes home because he's I

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 1>know he's going to be grumpy and mean, and you know,

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't really know how to approach him and ask

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 1>him to cut back, because I know he enjoys providing

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's something he wants to do, but it's I

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:55.040
<v Speaker 1>feel like it's costing us otherwise, So I just don't

0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 1>really know what to do at this point. Man. I

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 1>feel like, literally, I feel like if I were like

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>a fly on the wall right now listening to my

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 1>wife talk about me, she might sound exactly the same way.

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, it's it's one of those things

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 1>like you go, you know, you think you're doing what

0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:12.240
<v Speaker 1>you're supposed to be doing and what you want to

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 1>be doing, but for some reason, the people that you're

0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:20.479
<v Speaker 1>doing it for, you're almost like, you know, uh, venting

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 1>on them because you're doing it right. So it's like,

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, he might be feeling this pressure that he's

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 1>creating for himself, which I know I do Um, I

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 1>might just be a real a guy thing. I don't know.

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know I do this. I know I

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 1>do these things. So I'm sorry. Yeah, I feel like

0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, it's a good thing. You know, there's

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of men that don't want to provide, but

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, at what costs though stuff? Yeah, you know,

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 1>my wife's my wife has said that to me before,

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 1>to like, you know, who cares if we have all this,

0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 1>we we still have to be good together. And that's

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:54.560
<v Speaker 1>a big it's a big component of it that you know,

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 1>sometimes guys bury themselves and work for a million reasons,

0:33:57.640 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I think one of them is this

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 1>sure that we put on ourselves to be the provider

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 1>and to be the person that's you know, making sure

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 1>everybody has what they need and you don't have to

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 1>worry about asking about this or that, you know, and

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 1>or choosing between this and that. Um So, I mean

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:15.360
<v Speaker 1>I get that. I get where the pressure comes from.

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:16.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, it might be one of those things too

0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:20.399
<v Speaker 1>where you know, uh, maybe have you guys talked about

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:22.360
<v Speaker 1>this at all, Like have you ever said, you know, hey,

0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:24.799
<v Speaker 1>you seem really stressed when you come home. I get it.

0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it sounds like you probably have. You seem

0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:30.919
<v Speaker 1>like you're really willing to communicate. Yeah, but I mean

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:34.920
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't go well. I mean because I feel like

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 1>I might accidentally be hurting his pride or his ego,

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 1>and I'm it's not what I'm trying to do. Yeah,

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I just I just don't want him to burn out

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:48.239
<v Speaker 1>and lose our relationship and all this stuff in the process.

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 1>So it's just delicate, delicate balance. Delicate balance, it really is,

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 1>you know. I think I think it's hard, and it's

0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 1>hard from the standpoint of from where a guy is

0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:01.520
<v Speaker 1>coming from too, because you're right, that could that could

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:03.239
<v Speaker 1>hurt his pride, that he's not able to do it

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 1>all and do it all with a smile, you know,

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 1>and um, you know from that perspective, like, you know,

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:11.759
<v Speaker 1>he might not even realize that he's being edgy and

0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:15.399
<v Speaker 1>short and you know a little bit you know, temperamental,

0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:17.480
<v Speaker 1>and he might not even realize that. And and then

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:19.720
<v Speaker 1>when you let him know, the initial reaction is probably

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:22.080
<v Speaker 1>going to be defensive, like what are you talking about?

0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:23.719
<v Speaker 1>You know what, I'm exhausted, I'm working my ass out,

0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:25.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, And so it becomes one of these things.

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:27.200
<v Speaker 1>That's like a recurring argument that you know, it's like

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Groundhog Day, right, and you keep trying to, you know,

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 1>wake up the next day and it's this exact same

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 1>thing over and over and over again, and the only

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 1>way to fix it is to break the cycle, you know.

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 1>So um, whether it's you know, you're saying, you know, hey, listen,

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 1>you know this next week you have this day and

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:46.279
<v Speaker 1>this day off, and maybe instead of and I know

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:49.400
<v Speaker 1>this is counterintuitive, but you know, maybe instead of us

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:51.879
<v Speaker 1>packing everything into those two days that you have off,

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 1>just take the day, you know. And I get it.

0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:57.880
<v Speaker 1>This sounds like a terrible piece of advice, but it

0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:00.719
<v Speaker 1>will make him be like, oh my, I don't want that.

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I might he might think he wants that. I mean,

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:05.319
<v Speaker 1>I know I think I want that. And then if

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:06.759
<v Speaker 1>my wife and my kids are going to like the

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:08.319
<v Speaker 1>zoo or something, I'm like, man, I want to go

0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 1>to the zoo with him. I don't want to not

0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:11.239
<v Speaker 1>miss I don't want to miss out on that experience.

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 1>And so, you know, it becomes kind of one of

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:16.080
<v Speaker 1>those things where you start looking within and and and

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:17.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe it's just a way to hit the

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 1>reset button for him. You know, is to realize that,

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, when he comes home and works all these

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:24.359
<v Speaker 1>extra hours and stuff, he's missing out on this great

0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:26.320
<v Speaker 1>time with his kids as opposed to and his wife

0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 1>as opposed to you know, making an extra fifty bucks

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 1>that day or hundred bucks that day, or whatever it

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:34.440
<v Speaker 1>might be. You know, I don't know. I mean, at

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:36.680
<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, everybody's wired differently, and and

0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, what makes them tick is going to be

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:40.799
<v Speaker 1>different than something that makes me tick. But I will

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 1>say that that's something that has worked for me in

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:44.040
<v Speaker 1>the past when my wife will be like, you know,

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:46.880
<v Speaker 1>what's it all worth if you're not able to spend

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:49.759
<v Speaker 1>this time with us? And it hits me, you know,

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 1>it really affects me. So you know, maybe that will

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 1>be something that will work for you too. All right, Well,

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:57.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess the only thing I can do is just

0:36:58.080 --> 0:37:01.000
<v Speaker 1>give that a try and see if that maybe gets

0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:02.920
<v Speaker 1>through to him, and you know, if we can start

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:05.360
<v Speaker 1>spark a change in him. Yeah, I mean, you know

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:07.800
<v Speaker 1>him better obviously than than than anybody. So it's like,

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, there might be a little twist here and there,

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 1>or a little you know, uh, you know, something a

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:16.239
<v Speaker 1>little bit different that might work that you know, you

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:18.239
<v Speaker 1>can personalize that and make it your own. But I

0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 1>think it is kind of a nice feeling when the

0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:22.680
<v Speaker 1>person that you love the most, who is you know,

0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:25.120
<v Speaker 1>your wife and your kids, when it's like, you know,

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 1>all they really want us to be with you, you know,

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:28.799
<v Speaker 1>it makes you kind of take a step back and

0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:31.000
<v Speaker 1>go in, what am I doing all this for? You know,

0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm like killing myself over you know, how much money,

0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:36.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, is it ever enough? And it's never enough?

0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 1>So you know, at the end of the day, it's like,

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe taking one or two of those days

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 1>and not doing that over time, but instead getting to

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 1>spend a little more time quality time with you and

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:48.520
<v Speaker 1>the kids. It will be a lot more beneficial in

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:52.160
<v Speaker 1>the long run. Well, I hope so. And like I said,

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:55.040
<v Speaker 1>that's uh, definitely something. I'll give it a try and

0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:57.720
<v Speaker 1>we'll see how it works. And I appreciate the input

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:00.719
<v Speaker 1>on that. Um yeah, definitely, I hope it works out

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:03.279
<v Speaker 1>for you. All right, Thank you so much. Thank you.

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 1>It's nice talking to you all right, you too, by

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:09.439
<v Speaker 1>bye bye? By Hi. Hey Patty? How are you, Um, well,

0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 1>how are you well? I'm doing pretty fantastic. Thanks thanks

0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 1>for calling in. So, my husband and I we have

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:22.920
<v Speaker 1>been married for a few years, and our parents always

0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:26.320
<v Speaker 1>bring up when are we going to have kids? Parents

0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:28.600
<v Speaker 1>talk about it, My mom talks about it. They're all

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:32.200
<v Speaker 1>excited to be grandparents. But I feel like we're not

0:38:32.280 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 1>ready yet and we kind of just want to enjoy

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:37.759
<v Speaker 1>being married for a little bit longer. And so I'm

0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:40.040
<v Speaker 1>so curious, how can we talk to them about this

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:44.920
<v Speaker 1>without offending them busting their dreams? Right now? I know,

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 1>how long did you guys date before you get married?

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Five years? So you probably heard a ton When are

0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:54.560
<v Speaker 1>you guys getting married? It doesn't stop. I know, it's

0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:56.840
<v Speaker 1>it's this weird, crazy cycle. I used to say it

0:38:56.840 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 1>all the time. My wife and I dated for three

0:38:58.239 --> 0:38:59.959
<v Speaker 1>years before we got married, and then the three years,

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm I probably heard it like a thousand times, and

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:04.360
<v Speaker 1>then the second we got married, it's like, when do

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:06.480
<v Speaker 1>we et grandkids? And I remember saying to them, I

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:08.799
<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, back off, man, like you know, I

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:11.600
<v Speaker 1>made it funny, but I was just like, guys, you know,

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:14.120
<v Speaker 1>you busted our chops for you know, five years to

0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:16.840
<v Speaker 1>get married. We finally were you know, we finally did it.

0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 1>We got married, and now we want to enjoy being

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:20.760
<v Speaker 1>married a little bit before we know we're on lockdown

0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 1>for the next eighteen years. So you know, give us

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 1>a little breathing room here. And I think, you know,

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:27.799
<v Speaker 1>it's funny because I mean, I had kids so much

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 1>later in life that I got I understood where the

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:32.279
<v Speaker 1>big rush was coming from there, Like, you know, hey, man,

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:34.920
<v Speaker 1>we only got so much time here as grandparents. Uh,

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:36.839
<v Speaker 1>with me waiting so long to have kids, I didn't

0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:39.480
<v Speaker 1>have kids. I was forty seven, but um, you know,

0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure unlike me, you're probably much younger than that.

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:45.000
<v Speaker 1>And you know, from that perspective, it's like, I think

0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:46.759
<v Speaker 1>it's a fun there's a fun way to do it,

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:49.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, like uh, you know, maybe you could even

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:51.239
<v Speaker 1>say your your parents into his parents, you know, like

0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:53.480
<v Speaker 1>find out how long they were married before they had kids.

0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully it was a couple of years, you know, and um,

0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:57.840
<v Speaker 1>and then you could say to them, well, hey, you

0:39:57.880 --> 0:39:59.759
<v Speaker 1>and dad were married for four years before you had kids.

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:02.480
<v Speaker 1>And that was back in the you know whatever era

0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:05.280
<v Speaker 1>when you know, everybody had kids right away and you guys,

0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:07.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, waited three years or whatever. It is just

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:10.360
<v Speaker 1>to give yourself some you know, some some time and

0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 1>to give them some context, you know, because in their minds,

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:14.919
<v Speaker 1>all they can think of is, oh, man, we gotta

0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:18.000
<v Speaker 1>have a grandkid right away. And I will say that,

0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:19.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, one of the big things that my wife

0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:20.600
<v Speaker 1>and I talked about all the time is that we

0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:25.640
<v Speaker 1>both had time to you know, before we got together.

0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:28.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean that we were we sold our oats, we

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 1>had fun, we did whatever we're gonna do. Then we

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:31.920
<v Speaker 1>got married. It's like, now we get to have fun together.

0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 1>And we and we took a couple of years of

0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:35.920
<v Speaker 1>doing that before we decided to have kids. And I'm

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 1>really thankful that we did. We traveled a time, you know,

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:40.799
<v Speaker 1>we got a chance to do a bunch of fun things.

0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:42.480
<v Speaker 1>And when did you get how long have you guys

0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:45.360
<v Speaker 1>been married? Two years now? So you got married? Like

0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:48.440
<v Speaker 1>what right? Right? During COVID? Oh yeah, yeah, we got

0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 1>the postphone. We just kind of did it ourselves. We

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:52.319
<v Speaker 1>went into the street, our parents were there. I was

0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:55.440
<v Speaker 1>super small, but we were just like we're doing this. Yeah,

0:40:55.520 --> 0:41:00.080
<v Speaker 1>and that's awesome. But COVID sucked. You couldn't travel, you

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:01.560
<v Speaker 1>couldn't do all that kind of stuff. So I mean,

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 1>if nothing else that buys you a buffer, you know,

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 1>two years. I would think, like you could say, hey, guys,

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:09.440
<v Speaker 1>we got married during COVID, so all that fun stuff

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 1>that you all got to do for honeymoons and everything else,

0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:12.799
<v Speaker 1>we didn't get to do any of that crap. So

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:15.320
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do it now and we're gonna enjoy ourselves,

0:41:15.400 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 1>and then we're gonna make sure we're in the right

0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 1>place to have kids, because you know, COVID really screwed

0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:22.759
<v Speaker 1>up everything. And I think that kind of makes sense

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 1>some time, right, like, yeah, let's just comp it down

0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:29.239
<v Speaker 1>and let's have fun because they know what happens to

0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:32.480
<v Speaker 1>our wedding, so yeah, exactly. And then the beauty of

0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:34.400
<v Speaker 1>it is too like they'll quit, they'll quit asking, and

0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:35.960
<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden, you'll be a surprise again

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 1>because they'll think they're not supposed to ask, and you'll

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 1>be like, hey, guys, guess what. Boom, and they'll be

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:42.680
<v Speaker 1>fired all fired up again and you know, no time,

0:41:42.719 --> 0:41:46.480
<v Speaker 1>so you'll be all good, Thank you so much, You're welcome,

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:51.840
<v Speaker 1>good luck. All right. So that was our call in questions,

0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 1>which was very very fun for me. I actually had

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:55.839
<v Speaker 1>a great time. Thank you, all for calling in and

0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:57.839
<v Speaker 1>for listening to the show. We're gonna take a really

0:41:57.920 --> 0:41:59.480
<v Speaker 1>quick break and we come back. We got a little

0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:02.040
<v Speaker 1>bit more cute and a and uh, and then we're

0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:03.799
<v Speaker 1>gonna put a big bow on this thing. So thank

0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:05.839
<v Speaker 1>you for listening to How Men. Think. We'll be right back,

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to how Men. Thank I am Bob, getting

0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:19.319
<v Speaker 1>your guest host for the week. Now. I got some

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:21.640
<v Speaker 1>questions here that I think are pretty good, and so

0:42:21.680 --> 0:42:23.359
<v Speaker 1>I want to kind of try to tackle a few

0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:27.400
<v Speaker 1>of them. Um, as a father of two, what advice

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:30.040
<v Speaker 1>would you give new parents? So I kind of touched

0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:32.440
<v Speaker 1>on this earlier in the show that, Um, I didn't

0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 1>feel like I was really qualified just because I have

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:39.399
<v Speaker 1>kids to give parenting advice. UM, but I could give

0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:41.439
<v Speaker 1>it from a different type of scope, which is because

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I think everyone's gonna parent differently and um, and so

0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 1>what I was thinking was, uh, you know, and I

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<v Speaker 1>said this earlier in the show too, was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my advice if I actually the people who aren't parents

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<v Speaker 1>or who are becoming parents or want to become parents

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<v Speaker 1>in the future, UM, to you know, kind of take

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<v Speaker 1>a step back and not be so judging of people

0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:02.640
<v Speaker 1>who are new parents because I was. I think, like

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<v Speaker 1>I look, I look at you know, restaurants and looking

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<v Speaker 1>across the table and seeing someone you know, with a

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<v Speaker 1>kid in an iPad, and my mind is like, oh

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:10.759
<v Speaker 1>my god, why, you know, why aren't they talking? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't need an iPad at the table, but when

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a restaurant, I'm just gonna say it, I

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<v Speaker 1>need an iPad at that table at some point or another.

0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I want my kid to just relax. Quit saying he

0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:22.359
<v Speaker 1>has to go to the bathroom forty three times, Quit

0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 1>trying to get up and run around the restaurant and

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:25.759
<v Speaker 1>me having to basically try and discipline him. If he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna sit there and you know, watch something on on

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:30.439
<v Speaker 1>the screen, so be it. If I can have half

0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 1>an hour and not even fifteen minutes, whatever it is, um.

0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:37.480
<v Speaker 1>And that's something that I think is uh more of

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<v Speaker 1>just maybe it's age, you know, maybe it's just time

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<v Speaker 1>with kids. I'm not sure, um, but it's something that

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<v Speaker 1>I think is is pretty good advice from the perspective of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, um, don't be so judgy, just sort of

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 1>take a step back and let people live. You know,

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:55.040
<v Speaker 1>it's been a rough couple of years with COVID and

0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:57.080
<v Speaker 1>everything else. It's like the last thing you need is

0:43:57.400 --> 0:43:59.840
<v Speaker 1>are your peers. You know, ran down a bunch of

0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:02.239
<v Speaker 1>refan you because you're you're doing something different than they

0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:05.680
<v Speaker 1>might do. So um, live and let lift. Uh that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I say. Alright, I've been married since what

0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:12.719
<v Speaker 1>advice would I give a newly wed? Um? You know

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is an interesting one for me because

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like when my wife and I first got married, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I was given some really good advice, which was to

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<v Speaker 1>take a moment to stop and just sort of smell

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<v Speaker 1>the roses for a minute. No bachelor pun intended right there,

0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:28.719
<v Speaker 1>but um, just sort of take a minute, soak it

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:32.440
<v Speaker 1>all in, look around, and really kind of enjoy the

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:36.879
<v Speaker 1>moment with with your person, you know, um, because life

0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 1>moves fast and and you know, ship happens, as they say,

0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:43.520
<v Speaker 1>things happen, and you're gonna end up in uh, you know,

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:47.239
<v Speaker 1>a tornado of you know, people pulling you in a

0:44:47.280 --> 0:44:49.920
<v Speaker 1>million different directions the second you get home from this moment,

0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:52.680
<v Speaker 1>and so really soak it in and just breathe it

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:55.719
<v Speaker 1>in for a minute and enjoy one another's company and

0:44:55.719 --> 0:44:58.640
<v Speaker 1>and that minute extends. I mean I'm not saying I'm saying, like,

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:01.719
<v Speaker 1>give yourself a couple of months where you're basically like, yes,

0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:04.080
<v Speaker 1>we are newlyweds. Let's let's drink it in, Let's enjoy

0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:05.759
<v Speaker 1>each other's company. Let's really get to know each other

0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:08.840
<v Speaker 1>as a married couple. Because things do change, the dynamic

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 1>does change. Um, and you know, enjoy that that moment

0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:15.600
<v Speaker 1>that you have together, which takes me my next question,

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<v Speaker 1>which is do you feel as you evolve your marriage

0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:21.840
<v Speaker 1>should evolve as well? If so, how do you evolve together? Um? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I do think as you grow, your marriage grows, um

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:27.360
<v Speaker 1>for better or for worse. Right, that's part of the

0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:29.319
<v Speaker 1>whole thing when you say your vows for better or

0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:33.960
<v Speaker 1>for worse. Um. And you know, uh, I think acknowledging

0:45:33.960 --> 0:45:36.719
<v Speaker 1>your role in it and knowing where you're at with

0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:39.160
<v Speaker 1>things and trying to make it better is really all

0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:41.440
<v Speaker 1>you can do. And so you need to evolve. You

0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:43.960
<v Speaker 1>need to know that you're especially if you have kids

0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:47.560
<v Speaker 1>and things like that, your partners needs change and so

0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:50.279
<v Speaker 1>to yours. And so you know, you've got to be

0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:53.520
<v Speaker 1>willing to sort of not be so critical or or

0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:56.200
<v Speaker 1>also not be so regimented that you're sticking with exactly

0:45:56.200 --> 0:45:58.360
<v Speaker 1>what it used to be, because nothing is what it

0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:00.360
<v Speaker 1>used to be. That's why it's called it used to

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:03.200
<v Speaker 1>be right, it's it's past. So all you gotta do

0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:06.840
<v Speaker 1>is try to really work hard on creating the future

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:09.839
<v Speaker 1>feelings that you're gonna have for that. So that's that's

0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:14.080
<v Speaker 1>the goal that I have for that moving forward. Just

0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:17.120
<v Speaker 1>realized I'm always right. My wife just brought me lunch,

0:46:17.239 --> 0:46:21.520
<v Speaker 1>how wonderful and told me she's always right, which is awesome. True,

0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:24.640
<v Speaker 1>She's always right. Um, And then I'll answer one more

0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:27.799
<v Speaker 1>of these. I think it'd be kind of fun. Um,

0:46:27.880 --> 0:46:29.680
<v Speaker 1>how did you and Jessica meet? And how did you

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 1>pursue her? This is awesome because I don't really feel

0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:36.600
<v Speaker 1>like I get to tell this answer enough. So we

0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:38.719
<v Speaker 1>met through a friend. I actually used to have a

0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:40.880
<v Speaker 1>radio show on Sirius XM several years ago, and my

0:46:40.920 --> 0:46:45.080
<v Speaker 1>co host introduced us at a a thing while she

0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:47.600
<v Speaker 1>was trying to set me up with her other friend. Actually,

0:46:48.160 --> 0:46:51.600
<v Speaker 1>and so I was kind of, you know, being all

0:46:51.600 --> 0:46:54.800
<v Speaker 1>flirty and stupid like I do with her other friend,

0:46:55.440 --> 0:46:57.840
<v Speaker 1>and then the other friend kind of got annoying and

0:46:57.880 --> 0:47:01.160
<v Speaker 1>weird and um, my wife, I call her Canyon because

0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:03.920
<v Speaker 1>it's her maiden name. Her name is Jessica. But I

0:47:03.960 --> 0:47:06.040
<v Speaker 1>always so I was calling her Canyon because there was

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:07.960
<v Speaker 1>like three Jessicas in my life at that time, and

0:47:08.480 --> 0:47:11.320
<v Speaker 1>um too that I was dating and then my co host.

0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:14.239
<v Speaker 1>But it's a lot I was. I was always honest

0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:15.799
<v Speaker 1>about it up front that I was not, you know,

0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:18.840
<v Speaker 1>looking to settle down. But anyway, I called her Canyon,

0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:21.399
<v Speaker 1>so I could you know, differentiate. But it actually became

0:47:21.440 --> 0:47:23.359
<v Speaker 1>a thing with her where she was so much fun

0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:27.480
<v Speaker 1>and just you know, just basically so different than the

0:47:27.480 --> 0:47:29.640
<v Speaker 1>person that they were trying to set me up with

0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:32.920
<v Speaker 1>that I was more drawn to her and so, um

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:36.279
<v Speaker 1>it was very casual for a while there and then um,

0:47:36.320 --> 0:47:38.920
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden it wasn't. And it was one

0:47:38.920 --> 0:47:40.400
<v Speaker 1>of those things where it was kind of like, you know,

0:47:41.200 --> 0:47:43.720
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think I wanted to get married again. Um,

0:47:43.760 --> 0:47:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I was pretty much resigned to the fact that I

0:47:45.200 --> 0:47:48.319
<v Speaker 1>probably wasn't gonna have kids or anything. And uh, next thing,

0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:50.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, I realized she was someone that I wanted

0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:53.920
<v Speaker 1>to have a family with, and um, she gave me

0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:56.440
<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to be a dad. And here I am,

0:47:56.480 --> 0:48:00.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's the best thing that's ever happened. So, UM,

0:48:00.120 --> 0:48:01.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll save you the details of how I

0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:05.600
<v Speaker 1>pursued her precisely, but uh, I'll just say that it

0:48:05.719 --> 0:48:08.600
<v Speaker 1>was it was something that I walked into. It wasn't

0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:12.120
<v Speaker 1>something that I was deliberately going after. And um, I

0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:14.040
<v Speaker 1>think the fact that you know it was a little

0:48:14.120 --> 0:48:18.799
<v Speaker 1>less of attempted relationship or a little less design I'm

0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:21.279
<v Speaker 1>getting into a relationship that made it work for us,

0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:25.600
<v Speaker 1>because I really thought I wasn't gonna be in that situation.

0:48:25.680 --> 0:48:28.480
<v Speaker 1>So very glad to be in it. So all right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for listening to How a Man Think.

0:48:30.640 --> 0:48:32.799
<v Speaker 1>It's my first episode as your guest host. I've had

0:48:32.800 --> 0:48:35.640
<v Speaker 1>a great day. I hope you guys have fun too. Um,

0:48:35.719 --> 0:48:37.920
<v Speaker 1>thank you for all the questions and for the callers.

0:48:38.280 --> 0:48:40.279
<v Speaker 1>It was awesome to interact with you guys. I will

0:48:40.280 --> 0:48:42.960
<v Speaker 1>tell you you know, I used to always say do

0:48:43.080 --> 0:48:46.040
<v Speaker 1>as I say, not as I've done, because I was

0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:48.399
<v Speaker 1>a divorce guy. And um, but now you know, I've

0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:49.680
<v Speaker 1>been married six years, so I guess you can do

0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:53.680
<v Speaker 1>as I say and uh, not as I've done. If

0:48:53.719 --> 0:48:55.600
<v Speaker 1>you like what you heard, you know, hopefully they'll have

0:48:55.640 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 1>me back to guest host again sometime soon. But you

0:48:58.200 --> 0:49:00.239
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0:49:00.520 --> 0:49:04.400
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0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:11.959
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0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:13.920
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0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:16.000
<v Speaker 1>what's going on nowadays, but we talk about the good

0:49:16.000 --> 0:49:19.320
<v Speaker 1>old days, um and everything in that uh, in that reflection.

0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:21.239
<v Speaker 1>So it's been great talking with you guys. You can

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