WEBVTT - House Speaker Mike Johnson Talks Government Shutdown 

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news.

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<v Speaker 2>Joining us now, as we promised, live from Capitol Hill

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<v Speaker 2>is the US Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson. Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>back to Bloomberg TV and Radio, mister Speaker. But looking

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<v Speaker 2>forward to the conversation, and I appreciate your time this evening.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you're having a ball and you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>this to end anytime soon. But I'm just wondering what

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<v Speaker 2>your gut check is here and how long you think

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<v Speaker 2>this is going to go on.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a very frustrating exercise for us. It's no

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<v Speaker 1>fun at all, Joe. And that's because real Americans are

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<v Speaker 1>feeling real harm because of this. It's political games being

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<v Speaker 1>played by Democrats in the Senate. There is one reason,

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<v Speaker 1>and one reason alone, that they've all just magically changed

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<v Speaker 1>their tune. I mean, they've done one hundred to eighty

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<v Speaker 1>degree turn. And what they have always said and done

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<v Speaker 1>emphatically in keeping the government open. They said as recently

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<v Speaker 1>as March of this year. We're playing the highlight reel

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<v Speaker 1>tape outside the Speaker's office right now. They all said,

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<v Speaker 1>in their own words, you can't shut the government down.

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<v Speaker 1>It's too painful. Something change. What changed was the political calculation.

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Shermer is worried about, as was just said, an

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<v Speaker 1>attack or a challenge from his left flank. He's afraid

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<v Speaker 1>that the Marxist wave in New York is going to

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<v Speaker 1>take him over as well, because he represents that state,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he's got to pick a fight with Trump

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<v Speaker 1>and show that he's fighting. Well, they picked a fight

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<v Speaker 1>that has nothing to do with stop gut funding. They're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the Obamacare subsidies, for example. That's a December

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one policy issue. We were always going to negotiate

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<v Speaker 1>that and debate it and deliberate over it in October November.

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<v Speaker 1>That always has been on the schedule and they know that.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're trying to pretend that's the issue of the day.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a red herring. It's a distraction. They're not doing

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<v Speaker 1>their jobs and real Americans are getting hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we spoke just a few moments ago with Congresswoman

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<v Speaker 2>Catherine Clark who said, we just want to gesture, mister speaker,

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<v Speaker 2>would you consider a promise to bring that negotiated legislation

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<v Speaker 2>to a floor vote up or down. We'll make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that happens before the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the Speaker of the House is in no position

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<v Speaker 1>to project forward what the outcome of a big policy

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<v Speaker 1>debate is going to be. That'd be unprecedented for anyone

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<v Speaker 1>to do that, and I won't.

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<v Speaker 3>What we have told them.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the obvious fact that there are ongoing negotiations and

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<v Speaker 1>discussions going on today between Republicans and Democrats, and certainly

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<v Speaker 1>within our own caucuses about how some of that would

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<v Speaker 1>need to be reformed. Look, there's a lot of conservatives

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<v Speaker 1>who have real problems with the Obamacare subsidy. Okay, when

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<v Speaker 1>the government subsidizes something, it means it's not working. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like the ev mandates. You know, people didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>buy electric vehicles. The government said we'll give you seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred dollars cash if you do, and they still

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<v Speaker 1>didn't buy enough of them. Right, when the government subsidizes something,

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<v Speaker 1>it means the market's not working. Obamacare was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>bring down the cost of health care. Premiums of skyrocketed

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<v Speaker 1>since it was created in two thousand and ten. They're

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<v Speaker 1>up like sixty percent, So something's not working. There's real

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<v Speaker 1>reforms that are needed, but it's a complex issue that

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<v Speaker 1>takes a lot of time for members on both sides

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<v Speaker 1>of the island, in both chambers to negotiate. They're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to search short circuit all that. Right now, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>how this process works. The clean cr is so simple,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe is twenty four pages in length. It has exactly

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<v Speaker 1>zero Republican policy writers on it.

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<v Speaker 3>We made it so simple. We just said, do what

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<v Speaker 3>you've always done.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's keep the lights on and keep the appropriations and

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<v Speaker 1>the negotiation process going. They refuse to do it because

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<v Speaker 1>again they want to show a fight because they can't

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<v Speaker 1>stand President Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what this is.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the meantime, American people are being used as

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<v Speaker 1>pawns in this game, and it is so frustrating to us.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's shameful. I think it's immoral for them

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<v Speaker 1>to do what they're doing right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I know your position on that, and you we

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<v Speaker 2>hear about the Schumer shut down a lot around here.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Emmer was with us just a couple of days

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<v Speaker 2>ago making the point that we've heard this over the

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<v Speaker 2>past couple of weeks, but what happens if Chuck Schumer

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't come around for you? What happens if weeks go by.

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<v Speaker 2>If members of the military are not being paid, are

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<v Speaker 2>there off ramps here for you? Mister Speaker, Will you

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<v Speaker 2>start reaching out directly to Democrats? Do we need another

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<v Speaker 2>meeting in the Oval office.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I am a good faith operator. I am a negotiator.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to find common ground. Here's the problem, because

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<v Speaker 1>we were operating in good faith and doing the most

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<v Speaker 1>basic simple thing, I mean, the bare minimum piece of

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<v Speaker 1>legislation to keep the lights on. I literally don't have

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<v Speaker 1>anything to negotiate on the CR. I can't go into

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<v Speaker 1>that document then say, oh, let me pull off these

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<v Speaker 1>Republican priorities and see if we can get some more

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats to.

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<v Speaker 3>Vote on it. I don't have anything to pull off

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<v Speaker 3>of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I sent over a clean continued resolution, and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>very important. It continues Biden era policies and spending, which

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<v Speaker 1>we conservatives don't like. We're trying to change that, but

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<v Speaker 1>we need the appropriations process to finish it. All we

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<v Speaker 1>needed was seven more weeks on the clock to finish

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<v Speaker 1>the process. And the Republicans and Democrats who are appropriators

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<v Speaker 1>are the ones that decided that date and decided it

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<v Speaker 1>should be clean. And everything was going smoothly until Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>Schimmer decided to blow it up. Is he going to fold?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I'll tell you what needs to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Some other Senate Democrats need to come to their senses

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<v Speaker 1>and realize they should not be blamed for the pain

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<v Speaker 1>that's being inflicted on the people. Make it stop as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as possible, do the right thing and join your

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<v Speaker 1>Republican colleagues and open the government back up.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I ask if you're reaching out to some

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<v Speaker 2>of the Democratic senators, mister speaker, have you talked to

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<v Speaker 2>Chuck Schumer since your Oval Office meeting?

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<v Speaker 3>No? Not since the Oval Office meeting. But I'll tell

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<v Speaker 3>you what.

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<v Speaker 1>The President made an impassioned plea while we were there

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<v Speaker 1>to please not do this, Please don't shut the government down, Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was spurned, and Chuck Schumer and HACKEM. Jeffreys

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<v Speaker 1>walked out defiantly. You know they wanted to pick this fight.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very clear. The question everybody's asking is how long

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<v Speaker 1>October fifteenth troops begin to lose a real paycheck, and

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<v Speaker 1>you've got TSA agents and Border patrol agents and all

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<v Speaker 1>these people sacrificing their own safety. To protect everyone else,

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<v Speaker 1>and they won't be paid. You've got nutrition programs and

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<v Speaker 1>health services and femous services and all sorts of other

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<v Speaker 1>things stalled, and half the civilian workforce of the federal

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<v Speaker 1>government is now furloughed. This is dangerous stuff. Real people

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<v Speaker 1>are being hurt. Air traffic controllers are falling back on

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<v Speaker 1>the job because they don't have enough personnel. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>serious stuff, and we need the Democrats to come to

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<v Speaker 1>their senses and do the right thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, of course there's.

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<v Speaker 2>A thread of mass layoffs coming from the president. He

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<v Speaker 2>said maybe four or five days he would make a

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<v Speaker 2>decision on that. But there's also been a conversation and

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<v Speaker 2>I heard you speaking earlier in your briefing about back

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<v Speaker 2>pay for federal workers who have been furloughed. There's, of

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<v Speaker 2>course a law on the books around furloughed workers getting

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<v Speaker 2>back bay today, and I know that you have been

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<v Speaker 2>speaking to the letter of a law. The President yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday said though that there are some federal workers who

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<v Speaker 2>do not deserve the quote was to be taken care of.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this issue the purview of Congress? Do you plan

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<v Speaker 2>to follow this law or is this somehow up to

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<v Speaker 2>russ vote. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look, there's different legal analyzes that are floating around

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<v Speaker 1>right now, and I've been so busy with this i

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<v Speaker 1>haven't had a chance to dig into it.

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<v Speaker 3>I am a lawyer.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to reading through that because I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of get into all the scholarship side of this. It

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<v Speaker 1>has always been my understanding that the law requires furloughed

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<v Speaker 1>workers to receive back pay, and of course that's been

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<v Speaker 1>the tradition. And I'm not sure exactly what the President

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<v Speaker 1>is referring to there there. I haven't had a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to him about that specific issue yet, but

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<v Speaker 1>we will. I can tell you this though, the view

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<v Speaker 1>of the White House, the view of the President himself,

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<v Speaker 1>is that he doesn't want federal workers to be used

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<v Speaker 1>as ponds.

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<v Speaker 3>Here.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got some great patriotic Americans who work for our

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<v Speaker 1>agencies and provide essential services to the people. They should

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<v Speaker 1>not suffer the harms of people who want to pay

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<v Speaker 1>political games. And I think this really important principle for

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<v Speaker 1>us to advance.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you worry about mass layoffs coming as early as

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<v Speaker 2>next week and that actually poisoning the well even more

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<v Speaker 2>between Republicans and Democrats? What would be the impact of a.

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<v Speaker 1>Move like that, well, look, I'm worried about all sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of adverse effects because of how it affects the American people.

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<v Speaker 1>We had some analysis today that every week that the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats shut down continues, we could lose fifteen billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in gross domestic product. I mean, it's a real hit

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<v Speaker 1>for real people, and it has a reverberating effect. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you keep it closed for a month, then one

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<v Speaker 1>of the estimates I saw today is you lose forty

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand civilian employees. You know, because it has a

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<v Speaker 1>ripple effect throughout the economy. We can't afford to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Things were going in the right direction and this is

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<v Speaker 1>a terrible setback for the country. It also has implications

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<v Speaker 1>for national secure I mean, you look at things like

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear deterrence. Those programs are stalled right now, right and

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<v Speaker 1>every day you do that, it has real world consequences

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<v Speaker 1>for us. Not a game, and we need to end

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<v Speaker 1>it right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that you've said it to House Republicans at

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<v Speaker 2>least reportedly, that you would give them forty eight hours

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<v Speaker 2>notice if they had to come back into town. When

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<v Speaker 2>folks left following the vote on the CR in the House,

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<v Speaker 2>if they're talking next door in the Senate, if some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of deal is broker that might alter the CR

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<v Speaker 2>as it stands. Now, do you plan to call your

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<v Speaker 2>members back?

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<v Speaker 1>Look, the devil's in the details, but I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how they could possibly alter it. We made it so

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<v Speaker 1>simple there Again, there is nothing to take off of that.

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<v Speaker 1>It is virtually identical to what Chuck Schumer himself championed

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<v Speaker 1>in March of this year. And so we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to strap on extraneous policy issues and all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>That would take a long time. Because the government's now

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<v Speaker 1>closed down, they need to pass the clean CR, turn

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<v Speaker 1>the lights back on, and get everybody back to work.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just so frustrated with the nonsense around this, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think more and more people at Homer as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a rass must and poll that came out

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of hours ago. Forty nine percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>American people were polled. So that Democrats did this to

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<v Speaker 1>give benefits to illegal aliens.

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<v Speaker 3>They are not wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Two hundred billion dollars in their counter proposal would pay

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<v Speaker 1>illegal aliens the benefits that hard earned, hardworking American taxpayers provide.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not going to add a trillion and a half

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<v Speaker 1>new dollars to spending. We're not taking Chuck Schumer's ridiculous counterproposal.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to do the right thing for the people,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Republicans are on the job to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you had a couple of visitors at your

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<v Speaker 2>office today, mister Speaker, a couple of Democratic Senators. I

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<v Speaker 2>believe Kelly and Diego had a lot of things to

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<v Speaker 2>say about the swearing in of a new member of

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<v Speaker 2>Congress from Arizona. I also saw Congress with Mike Lawler

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<v Speaker 2>from New York get into an altercation with HAKEM. Jefferies

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<v Speaker 2>as he was coming out of his office here. I

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<v Speaker 2>know that elbows can be sharp on Capitol Hill, But

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<v Speaker 2>mister Speaker, what's happened to decorum?

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<v Speaker 3>Is this a new law? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I work on decorum around here all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody knows that's my record. I started it when I

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<v Speaker 1>came to Washington in January twenty seventeen. I authored the

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<v Speaker 1>Honor and Civility Caucus Pledge and the Commitment to Civility.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we have to maintain this.

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<v Speaker 1>There fights about policy, but it shouldn't be personal. I

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<v Speaker 1>try to model that myself. I try to encourage colleagues

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. But I would tell you the tension

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<v Speaker 1>here is very high because it's high because the stakes

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<v Speaker 1>are so high, and you get real Americans, real constituents

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<v Speaker 1>back home who are really suffering because of the nonsense,

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<v Speaker 1>and it gets as upset here sometimes, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>understand that emotion. We've got to keep it in check.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got to get everybody working together, and we've got to.

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<v Speaker 3>Get the lights back on.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to ask you about that new member Grihalva,

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<v Speaker 2>the congress woman elects from Arizona. The senators were asking

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<v Speaker 2>you to swear her in, or I guess they were

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<v Speaker 2>urging you to swear her in, which I know you've

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<v Speaker 2>done a couple of times for Republican members in pro

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<v Speaker 2>forma sessions. These two senators were yelling about Jeffrey Epstein,

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<v Speaker 2>I think to make a point here, and they did

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<v Speaker 2>get some on that. Mister speaker, Is this an Epsteine

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<v Speaker 2>issue or is this a process issue?

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<v Speaker 1>They're master's at distraction. To go back and watch the

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<v Speaker 1>video of Senator Reuben Gego. These are the two Democrat

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<v Speaker 1>senators from Arizona, Mark Kelly and Gayego, and they're voting

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<v Speaker 1>to keep the government closed. I told them, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to get your House colleague from your state, take

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<v Speaker 1>the oath of office, then open the government so we

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<v Speaker 1>get back to regular session. They claim everything's about Epstein.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a joke, master's a distraction. We did. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a long standing tradition in the Congress when you administer

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<v Speaker 1>the oath after a special election, you do it the

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<v Speaker 1>first time that the Congress is back in session. After that,

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<v Speaker 1>we did change that modify it earlier this year. On

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<v Speaker 1>one occasion, we had two Floridians who came in on

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<v Speaker 1>the same special election, but it was a very different

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<v Speaker 1>set of circumstances. I explained to them very quickly. We

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<v Speaker 1>had a scheduled date for the oath office ceremony. The

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<v Speaker 1>House went out of session unexpectedly. They already had their

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<v Speaker 1>family and friends here and it was already pre arranged.

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<v Speaker 1>So we just went ahead and went through the motion.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to recollect Grihalba. We'll be sworn in as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as we get back to regular session. She never

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<v Speaker 1>had a scheduled date because you got elected after the

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<v Speaker 1>House went out of session. This is real simple. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do that as soon as we get back.

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<v Speaker 1>But they are in charge of turning the lights on

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<v Speaker 1>so Congress can get back to work.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I appreciate your answering that for us, mister Speaker. Lastly,

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<v Speaker 2>if you were to join me, say next Wednesday, would

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<v Speaker 2>we be having the same conversation about a shutdown.

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<v Speaker 1>I am on my knees praying that we would not be.

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<v Speaker 1>We have got to get the government operated again. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the most basic function of the federal government is to

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<v Speaker 1>serve the people, keep the people safe, and keep the

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<v Speaker 1>lights on. And we need the Democrats that we're here

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<v Speaker 1>to see the light and do that.

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<v Speaker 2>We appreciate the conversation. House Speaker, Mike Johnson, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>You're always welcome on Bloomberg TV and radio.