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Speaker 1: in the chat. The Canes did what many didn't think
Speaker 1: they could do. They won the ten ced Canes have
Speaker 1: upset the defending national champs. Miammi is headed to Therbo
Speaker 1: Fiesta Bowl. We'll little wait the winner. The old miss
Speaker 1: and Georgia Carson Beck was nineteen or twenty six eight
Speaker 1: one touchdown Mark Fletcher random ball, extremely hard tonight nineteen
Speaker 1: carries ninety yards. They ran the ball thirty seven times
Speaker 1: for a buck fifty three. They got off to the
Speaker 1: great start. Their defense was out standing. Sage is the
Speaker 1: real deal. A JT. Jason Taylor has did an outstanding
Speaker 1: job with that defensive line on Joe. They were getting
Speaker 1: after saying they were on his you know what, and
Speaker 1: they shut down the run. Twenty five carries I mean,
Speaker 1: excuse me, twenty four carries forty five yards forty five.
Speaker 1: They had what five sacks for minus forty two yards.
Speaker 1: They did a number attack in the quarterback once they
Speaker 1: realized they could not run the ball against that four.
Speaker 1: And that's what Miami and Hurricanes, that's what they're known for.
Speaker 1: A defensive front. You go back and look at the
Speaker 1: Jerome Browns and the Danny Stubbs and the McDougall's and
Speaker 1: the Warren SAPs. This is what the Canes are built on,
Speaker 1: and tonight they looked like the Canes of Oh. The
Speaker 1: offense didn't have to do a whole lot. They wasn't
Speaker 1: extravagant o Jo throwing the ball for three hundred yards.
Speaker 1: They didn't have one hundred and fifty yard rusher, but
Speaker 1: they Hey, they played great behind that running game and
Speaker 1: that defense came to play today and they played like
Speaker 1: so our football.
Speaker 4: Hey, a game like today, Uncle Joe. Games like this,
Speaker 4: when teams are of.
Speaker 5: Equal value, of equal skill, of evil, of ego quality,
Speaker 5: those type of games that went up front, then it's
Speaker 5: one that it's one down there in the trenches. And
Speaker 5: they set the tone. Not only did the Miami Hurricane
Speaker 5: score offensively hit fletch out in the flat.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: You talk about studying film with.
Speaker 5: Brother with a a smoke round, Joe, I haven't seen
Speaker 5: TV people smoke route great understanding and what's coming and
Speaker 5: hold on, he don't go to the man where the
Speaker 5: man he goes with the ball. That's gonna be in
Speaker 5: order for the ball to get to the man and
Speaker 5: goes right in the goddamn pass lane and take him
Speaker 5: to the house for six. Once they was up fourteen zip,
Speaker 5: and I saw that defensive line and bang with them
Speaker 5: boys was making goddamn saying uncomfortable in him not being
Speaker 5: able to sit back there and and and make plays
Speaker 5: and dissect and be surgical with that ball.
Speaker 4: I knew it was gonna be a long night for
Speaker 4: Ohio State. Ohio State. What was Ohio State?
Speaker 2: They was?
Speaker 4: They was? They was favored to win the game? What
Speaker 4: by three?
Speaker 2: About a touchdown? May? Yeah, think like eight and a half.
Speaker 5: Yeah, by the time, Joe, by the time it got
Speaker 5: to the end of the second quarter, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know what the I don't know what the
Speaker 5: odds were in Vegas, but I know they had.
Speaker 4: The flip and they had to change. They had to
Speaker 4: the way that the way.
Speaker 5: They dominated the whole game, not only not only the
Speaker 5: whole game, but up front. Boy, that got damn d line.
Speaker 2: They got that.
Speaker 5: If you can't if you can't run the ball against
Speaker 5: that front foe, it's a rap.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a rap.
Speaker 1: Light for Reuben Baines Junior, A keen mesador uh, oh ya,
Speaker 1: I don't know that.
Speaker 2: I told him.
Speaker 1: I said, running backs, if you stand flat footed and
Speaker 1: catch you up line blessing the linebacker, he gonna sit
Speaker 1: you in the quarterbacks lamp every time.
Speaker 2: Every time.
Speaker 5: Hey, unless unless you weigh three hundred some pounds going backwards.
Speaker 1: Hey hey, hey, Joe, you're watching this game. What what
Speaker 1: do you think about? How the U two get to him?
Speaker 1: I mean right away, they were not in all this
Speaker 1: ball club. I understand you the defending champs and you've
Speaker 1: won so many games in the regular season, but that
Speaker 1: ain't got nothing to do with us.
Speaker 2: We come here and we're not in all of you.
Speaker 2: We are the you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've had some lean years, we haven't been what
Speaker 1: you've been over the last two decades. But this is
Speaker 1: a different story. I'm with you'm man. I thought Miami
Speaker 1: controlled it, you know, up front with that defensive front.
Speaker 1: But this is, uh, this is what makes college football
Speaker 1: so exciting because it's just one game.
Speaker 2: Man. I just gotta be bettering you.
Speaker 3: One game, and I thought Miami came out and controlled
Speaker 3: it from start to finish. But I do love the
Speaker 3: Jeremiah Smith kid from Ohio State. Man he man, I
Speaker 3: don't know if it's Lea, but oh Joe, that.
Speaker 5: By move, Hey Joey from the crib, Joe. I've been
Speaker 5: watching high school. We went to Shamana.
Speaker 2: Joe.
Speaker 4: He the real dal Joe. I'm not sure how the
Speaker 4: hurricane let him get outside of Miami. I don't know
Speaker 4: how to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he making three and a half four million dollars
Speaker 2: a year.
Speaker 1: He making, That's what I'm saying. That's how they let
Speaker 1: him get out of there. And plus he saw the lineage,
Speaker 1: O Joe. If you go back and think about all
Speaker 1: the first round draft pick receivers a Bookah and Jagba
Speaker 1: Harrison Junior, David Boston, Chris Carr, you go back and
Speaker 1: study the history of Ohio State. Uh they Joey Galloway.
Speaker 1: So you go back and look at it. Says I
Speaker 1: want to be a part of that. Brian Hartline was
Speaker 1: the receiver coach. He was a great receiver there. So
Speaker 1: that that kind of explains it.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, O.
Speaker 4: Joey, Joe, that and that explains it. I love the name.
Speaker 5: You just you just rid it off, right, But hold
Speaker 5: on now, the minded Hurricanes and had had a group
Speaker 5: and came.
Speaker 2: Out with him as well, not not like Ohio State.
Speaker 5: Hold on, let me finish that. Go ahead, the Moss,
Speaker 5: Andre Johnson, Rostell Paris. I mean, maybe the name might
Speaker 5: not be as as you was.
Speaker 1: Good when you was good with Andre Johnson and Sam
Speaker 1: Talo Moss. You probably should have went to Michael Urban,
Speaker 1: You probably should have went to Reggie Wayne.
Speaker 2: You probably should have went it Downtown, Eddie Brown.
Speaker 4: Hey, Devin Hester, Reggie. I mean, it's a lot of them.
Speaker 2: I'm just yes, I give.
Speaker 4: You an example, like the Hurricanes.
Speaker 5: He could he could have he could have kept that
Speaker 5: legacy if Robis he was coming out of Miami alive too.
Speaker 4: I understand Ohio State.
Speaker 1: I think it's probably more recent, Ojo, because you look
Speaker 1: at Marvin Harrison Junior, you look at o'lave, you look
Speaker 1: at Garrett Wilson, you look at him, Jigbull, you look
Speaker 1: at him a Bookah. So he's probably looking at it
Speaker 1: from that standpoint on Joe recently. And that's not to
Speaker 1: say that Miami because as you mentioned Stanley Shakespeare, they
Speaker 1: had Downtown Eddie Brown, they had Mike Irvin, they had
Speaker 1: Andre Johnson, they had Reggie Wayne, Santown of Moss.
Speaker 2: They've had some really good receivers.
Speaker 1: But as far as recently, if you go back and
Speaker 1: look at the fast ten years old Joe, they've probably
Speaker 1: got seven eight first round picks.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and you see.
Speaker 2: What and you guess what.
Speaker 1: You get to see him every single Sunday and see
Speaker 1: what they're doing right right. No, but I think that's
Speaker 1: the biggest thing in heart. Line coached all those guys.
Speaker 1: So when he comes in there, he says, you saw
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison JUNR. Top three pig, you saw a Bukah,
Speaker 1: you saw in jig, but you see all these guys.
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson was Rookie of the Year. Chris o'lbvey another
Speaker 1: thousand yard season. I'm telling him, I believe you got
Speaker 1: more talent than all of them. Yeah, bigger, you're just
Speaker 1: as fast, you're strong, your six three sons, you're two fifteen,
Speaker 1: two twenty and you can run four four. You have
Speaker 1: something that Look those are little. I mean Chrystal Lobby
Speaker 1: is a big guy, but he ain't six three, two twenty.
Speaker 1: This is a big This is a big kid.
Speaker 2: I saw it.
Speaker 1: They had the camera on it. What he called that to?
Speaker 1: I think, God, Hey, hey he moving too.
Speaker 4: He can moving or he can move you know.
Speaker 5: That's that's why the first thing you remind me of
Speaker 5: when you look at him, Mon, you mind me Andre Johnson,
Speaker 5: maybe not maybe not as big yet because he he hasn't.
Speaker 4: Feeled into his body right like he looked like Andre
Speaker 4: Johnson joke.
Speaker 1: He's still got that teenage body. Yeah, listen. And next
Speaker 1: year the same reason that why they got Chris Henry Jr.
Speaker 1: Because he see Jeremion Smith and I get to go back,
Speaker 1: go learn from Jereedmion Smith. Each one teach one. We
Speaker 1: saw this with Alabama when they had Julio Jones. They
Speaker 1: had Calvin Ridley, they had a Coup, they had Davante,
Speaker 1: they had Rugs, they had Waddle. You see what they did.
Speaker 1: They had Jamison Williams. They hadn't met it. You see
Speaker 1: what they do. Each one teach one. So hey, Alabama
Speaker 1: had that street. Now it's Ohio, it's Ohio State's turned
Speaker 1: out o Joe. But then look, it wasn't that Ohio
Speaker 1: State then Ohio. Ohio State to me never seemed comfortable
Speaker 1: because normally they go out there, they were their defense
Speaker 1: limits team. They gave up the fewest amount of points,
Speaker 1: they kept the fewest amount of passing yards. They kept
Speaker 1: the fuest them out of everything. They number one in
Speaker 1: the FBS, and all of a sudden, excuse me, a
Speaker 1: team is going out there that's not in r that's
Speaker 1: not afraid the hold on that ain't supposed to happen.
Speaker 2: Who did that to us?
Speaker 1: And so now Ohio State and Miami, Miami, if don't
Speaker 1: turn the ball over, who knows this thing might have
Speaker 1: got out of hand. Sooner give a high state credit.
Speaker 1: A man, I love that. Calem down that kid. That
Speaker 1: kid is a solid tick. He don't miss no tackles.
Speaker 4: Hey, he Johnny on the spot.
Speaker 1: He's coming with bad intentions too. He's not the biggest
Speaker 1: he's I mean, what do you think he is on
Speaker 1: Joe six six.
Speaker 4: Fifteen something like that.
Speaker 5: But what he makes up for what he lacks his size,
Speaker 5: he makes up in other areas. He's ranged his hell,
Speaker 5: he can play down in the box. He he can play,
Speaker 5: he can play free.
Speaker 4: If one thing about it. In open space, he's he's
Speaker 4: making that tackle.
Speaker 1: Every time he's making a tackle, O yoke. Every time
Speaker 1: you're right, You're absolutely right. So I don't think Look
Speaker 1: Julian saying was twenty two or thirty five two eighty
Speaker 1: seven two interceptions. But I don't think this year he's
Speaker 1: never been under discount of the rest. You want to
Speaker 1: find out what a man could do, Joe, put him
Speaker 1: to the test. I gotta put him under fire because
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if you can handle it.
Speaker 1: If I don't put you under the if I don't
Speaker 1: put you under the gun. If so, guess what that
Speaker 1: front part. They blissed once once, once or twice, but
Speaker 1: mainly it was that down up for.
Speaker 2: They didn't have to.
Speaker 4: They didn't have to.
Speaker 5: If I'm getting home, Joe, if I'm getting home with Foe,
Speaker 5: what I'm bringing extra four and and put.
Speaker 2: Sacrifice in the back a correct ods.
Speaker 3: So it it puts me in the mind of just
Speaker 3: like the Super Bowl, right, the Eagles, how they got after.
Speaker 2: You? Yeah? Who can get after that quarterback?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: Listen, I guess the defensive line is a pim in football.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's why. That's why everybody tried to get the parcels.
Speaker 1: Everybody tried to get a Miles Garrett, everybody trying to
Speaker 1: get a Max Crosby, Aden Hutchinson. Yes, you need those guys,
Speaker 1: You need an Arab Donald, you need you if you
Speaker 1: can get that. You look at when the Patriots were undefeated,
Speaker 1: it was that front four. Oh say straight, Tug Canty,
Speaker 1: that's what that's what for. So we're not gonna give up.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna give up anything.
Speaker 2: Plays.
Speaker 1: We're gonna make it nickeling dive your way down the field,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna punish your damn quarterback.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what you've seen the nights what they did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the same thing when Lebroncos played Carolina, when you
Speaker 1: got Vonn and d Were, you had Malik Jackson, you
Speaker 1: had Derreck Wolf. We ain't got to we don't gotta
Speaker 1: bring no pressure this fort right there. You can't block
Speaker 1: these foward. We don't need to sacrifice the back end
Speaker 1: by breaking the extra guy. When you blocked these four,
Speaker 1: then we'll consider it. But till then, nah, we just
Speaker 1: gonna sit back here and look look the knock hall
Speaker 1: at you. But Miami, that was that was very impressive.
Speaker 1: Adye Kanes put people on notice, so Joe, oh, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: they put people on notice.
Speaker 5: No, this is this is the thing. I'm curious about
Speaker 5: this this old Miss Georgia game. I'm not sure how
Speaker 5: that's gonna look I'm not I'm not sure how that's
Speaker 5: gonna Look what.
Speaker 1: Georgia played them earlier, didn't they play him earlier? And
Speaker 1: that Old Miss had him under control? And then Georgia
Speaker 1: just went haywi. I think that the score was like
Speaker 1: forty was like forty three thirty eight or forty two
Speaker 1: thirty five. It was a high scoring game, Ojo. But
Speaker 1: I think I think Georgia's gotten better. Old Miss has
Speaker 1: gotten better.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but both both have gotten better. Is the reason
Speaker 4: why they are where they are now.
Speaker 2: Forty three thirty five, O Joe. That was the fire score.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I'm curious how that game is gonna go
Speaker 5: with Georgia is gonna show up, which Old Miss is
Speaker 5: gonna show up, which team is gonna make the least mistakes?
Speaker 5: Who's gonna win the battle of the trenches up front?
Speaker 4: That's where it's gonna start.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, everything in Georgia is predicated on defense.
Speaker 2: No Kirby.
Speaker 1: Kirby's checking page out of coach Saban. I'm gonna stop
Speaker 1: your run, and I'm gonna come hunt your quarterback. I'll tackle,
Speaker 1: I'll tackle the running back on the way to the quarterback.
Speaker 1: My intention is to get to him. But if you
Speaker 1: had them the ball, our tackles. But just so you know,
Speaker 1: I'm coming to get you. But uh, Carson back. The
Speaker 1: thing with the Kyns in trouble is when he turned
Speaker 1: the ball over, when he takes care of the football, Joe.
Speaker 1: They're a very talented football team and they can do
Speaker 1: some good things. They lost games. You go back and
Speaker 1: look at the games. If they lost four turnovers against LSU.
Speaker 1: I think they lost another against Virginia. I think that
Speaker 1: was the only the two games they lost. They go
Speaker 1: on the road, they beat Notre Dame and uh they
Speaker 1: beat A and M and A and m so Court. Clearly,
Speaker 1: they're a very talented football team. It's just that who
Speaker 1: can manage the emotions? Who can take care of the football?
Speaker 1: And I felt like I was looking like damn Miami
Speaker 1: when y'all had the momentum. I thought, y'all ship should
Speaker 1: have put like twenty one points. Did you did you
Speaker 1: leave it? Did you give yourself enough separation? Because that
Speaker 1: game got really really close, O Yoe, that game got
Speaker 1: really really close.
Speaker 2: But when the defense.
Speaker 1: Had to boat their backs, they voted, they voted, they voted,
Speaker 1: but Ohio, but Ohio State goes down, there will be
Speaker 1: not There will not be a repeat champion, something that
Speaker 1: we haven't had a very, very long since.
Speaker 2: The Georgia Bulldogs went back to back.
Speaker 1: Uh. But you look at what they had, boy, they
Speaker 1: had an ass load of first Rodger ass load of
Speaker 1: first round draft.
Speaker 2: Picks to go.
Speaker 1: They had five guys on the defensive side of the
Speaker 1: to go in the first round. And then the next
Speaker 1: year they had Jalen Card and all those other guys.
Speaker 1: But the Miami Hurricane stunned the number two Ohio State
Speaker 1: Buck guys by the score of twenty four to fourteen.
Speaker 1: They await the winner of Old Miss Georgia in the
Speaker 1: Fiesta Bowl.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh.
Speaker 2: Joe, I know you heard this. You and Joe.
Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs was released by the Cowboys and later picked
Speaker 1: up by the Factors. Brian Schottenheimer said the first time
Speaker 1: treyvon Diggs approached him about wanting to stay in DC
Speaker 1: was after Dallas win against the Commanders on Christmas. Shottenheimer
Speaker 1: added his protocol is unless they're a family emergency, all
Speaker 1: players fly to and from the game as a team,
Speaker 1: and the other players asked early in the week and
Speaker 1: were told the same thing. Schottenheimer emphasized it was not
Speaker 1: only the reason why the team chose to wave him,
Speaker 1: it was a multiple factors like performance and other elements.
Speaker 1: Said he truly wishes Diggs nothing but the best.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe, listen. I understand this.
Speaker 4: It's protocol. Their rules have to follow their standards that
Speaker 4: you set in place as a team.
Speaker 5: That all players have to follow. But due to the circumstances, right,
Speaker 5: do stay with me real quick on? You probably feel
Speaker 5: different about this due to the circumstances as a coach.
Speaker 5: One player asking, is it okay if I stayed behind
Speaker 5: to see family and do whatever it is, even if
Speaker 5: it's not a family emergency, knowing that our season is over,
Speaker 5: We're not going on nowhere, Joe, Joe, we ain't going nowhere, coach, listen,
Speaker 5: I just want to stay behind, man real quick, with
Speaker 5: the family. I'm gonna be back the following day. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna come back the following day. Okay, I mean, I
Speaker 5: don't mean obviously I'm on the outside looking at now.
Speaker 5: I don't see no problem with it, especially when Okay,
Speaker 5: it's not like we were preparing for the next season. Okay,
Speaker 5: we have to prepare for the following week, which is
Speaker 5: the last game of the season.
Speaker 4: We ain't going to the playoffs, Joe, we ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 2: Joe, didn't that man tell you? So let me ask
Speaker 2: your question.
Speaker 1: Did he fly early in the week to go see
Speaker 1: his family or did he fly on the team playing.
Speaker 4: Talk to me?
Speaker 1: The man told you, we fly. We came as a team,
Speaker 1: We're leaving as a team. And everybody kept talking about
Speaker 1: what shot he went to Wyomi. Shody did not go
Speaker 1: to Wyoming from DC. He flew his ass back to
Speaker 1: Dallas and then got on a plane with to Wyoming. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know what a chad. Excuse me, oh Joe and Joe.
Speaker 1: I let to give context. Terrell Davis led the FC
Speaker 1: in Russian ninety six ninety seven. He won the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl MVP in ninety seven. He was a three time
Speaker 1: first team All Pro two thousand yards, won the MVP.
Speaker 1: We were playing the Giants on a Saturday. He had
Speaker 1: an appearance for Sesame Street. Mike, can I stay? No,
Speaker 1: you're getting on the plane. We came as a team
Speaker 1: and leaving as a team. He flew all the way
Speaker 1: back to Denver only to get his ass go to bed,
Speaker 1: get up the next morning and catch a plane back.
Speaker 2: Now, I told you, I've been telling you since we
Speaker 2: got on.
Speaker 1: This thing, O Joe. And I'm not here to beat
Speaker 1: up Trayvon dig But what did I tell you? I
Speaker 1: kept telling us that, oh Joe, you never tolerate anything
Speaker 1: in the win, you wouldn't have lost. Yes, I also
Speaker 1: told you production and tolerance. Now if he said there
Speaker 1: was a lot of other reasons, you mean to tell
Speaker 1: me this is the first year that Trayvon Diggs has
Speaker 1: blown off a treatment.
Speaker 2: He's been late to something. I guarantee you.
Speaker 1: I bet your door knob to a bucket a commander,
Speaker 1: and the doorknob is diamond, A fifty carried diamond, flawless,
Speaker 1: de flawless, internally flawless.
Speaker 2: If you want to make it.
Speaker 1: I guarantee you the season that he had eleven interceptions
Speaker 1: and he was the first team off pro I bet
Speaker 1: you he was late to something.
Speaker 2: You see what happened.
Speaker 1: They were tolerating behavior when they were winning that they
Speaker 1: couldn't stomach when they were losing.
Speaker 2: You see how you go, Joe? Now, I told I
Speaker 2: also told you, Ojo, he took chance.
Speaker 1: I say, you gotta be careful because he's not a
Speaker 1: speed merchant. If you lose anything, you take those same risks,
Speaker 1: you're gonna set yourself up a failure. Now, when he
Speaker 1: came back, See you didn't notice that they played a cover.
Speaker 1: They motioned mconkie. They ran him up the rail. He
Speaker 1: tried to play two to one. They threw the ball
Speaker 1: over his head. See, I see everything, But I wasn't
Speaker 1: gon say nothing but see, because I don't want people
Speaker 1: to think I'm beating up. I just tried to provide
Speaker 1: your context. I give you another story, Shannon Sharp, two
Speaker 1: thousand and two. My grandmother's in the hospital. We play
Speaker 1: Tampa on a Saturday night. I go to Coach Billock.
Speaker 1: I say, Coach Billock, my grandmother's in the hospital. I
Speaker 1: want if it'll be okay, be if I stay overnight
Speaker 1: and then go. I had already told him, but I
Speaker 1: just wanted to make sure. I said, Coach Billick, you
Speaker 1: remember I talked to you earlier this week. I said,
Speaker 1: my grandmother's in the hospital. We're close by. If it's
Speaker 1: a problem, Hey, I'll get back on the plane. Because
Speaker 1: I don'tn't want I don't want anything. He said, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're reminding me, but hey, go take care
Speaker 1: of your grandmother. I stayed overnight Sunday, got out, flew
Speaker 1: to Savannah, stayed there, come back Tuesday.
Speaker 2: I was in meeting on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Wednesday, he said, unless it's of a family emergency. Joke, Yes,
Speaker 1: I say that, Yeah, yeah, a family emergence. Mike Shannon
Speaker 1: hadn't made TD A Super Bowl MVP, a League MVP,
Speaker 1: a three time first team All Pro.
Speaker 2: He had an appearance in New York.
Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, he there. Do you know how long the
Speaker 1: fight him back to Denver and then had to get gotten.
Speaker 1: It turned right back long ones. Yeah, co I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to explain something to you. Chat. I don't trying.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to beat up Trayvon Diggs. But once
Speaker 1: the man told you. But I saw, I told Joe
Speaker 1: you were on this summer. I told Ojo, Michael Parson
Speaker 1: was laying on that table. What did I tell you what?
Speaker 2: Joe?
Speaker 4: Oh, he was going that was it? That was it.
Speaker 2: That was it.
Speaker 5: But you know Michael Parsons won at that point, Joe, Mike, Yeah,
Speaker 5: at that coach. At that point, body lingerags, let you know,
Speaker 5: I'm done. When Trayvon Diggs obviously another point. You think
Speaker 5: about the situation where he chose not to get treatment
Speaker 5: on his knee and the off seat, and he chose
Speaker 5: to do it a way where he was rehabing it
Speaker 5: and decided not to do it in Dallas at the facility.
Speaker 5: So they can keep track and see how far you
Speaker 5: come along. That's that that might be part of where
Speaker 5: it all starts. It is as far as this year
Speaker 5: is concerned. I'm not trying go ahead, o God finish no.
Speaker 5: But I'm just saying, Joe, I know now, I'm thinking.
Speaker 5: I'm thinking about what I get, what the healthy trademon digs.
Speaker 4: I understand what you do.
Speaker 5: Joe An I talk, I said all the time, and
Speaker 5: I talk about the defensive backs in the NFL when
Speaker 5: it comes to them playing. Now, I like a healthy
Speaker 5: trademon dig because ninety five percent of the defensive backs
Speaker 5: in the NFL they play football not to get beat.
Speaker 5: And you got five percent, Unk and Joe, you got
Speaker 5: five percent that's out there to make a play. And
Speaker 5: Trayvon did is in that five percent. I don't care
Speaker 5: what nobody's saying, he's in that five percent. I'm finna
Speaker 5: try to make a play. Sometimes you try to make
Speaker 5: that play. He gambles, I gotta play, but you gotta
Speaker 5: play within the scheme. Ojo ojo ojo. Hey, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: be late. I need you to cover for me. I
Speaker 5: can't just be late and don't tell you can color
Speaker 5: for me.
Speaker 1: So he can't play a coverage without telling the saint that, hey,
Speaker 1: look man, he get over the hop top of this
Speaker 1: because I'm.
Speaker 2: Gonna ump it.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna jump yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Brian Schottenheimer is trying to change the culture.
Speaker 1: Hopefully Jerry's allowed him to do it, because far too
Speaker 1: many times since Jimmy was gone, players could do something
Speaker 1: circumvent the head coach Joe and to go straight and.
Speaker 2: Go straight to Jerry.
Speaker 1: Hopefully Jerry now has a wall up that says, nah,
Speaker 1: y'all deal with shoddy because you gotta change the culture.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's true, but there was a
Speaker 1: guy talking about it, and I guess he's a day
Speaker 1: to day guy. I guess he a beat rider or something,
Speaker 1: and he was saying that when they were doing teams stretching,
Speaker 1: he said, everybody would be in their groups and they
Speaker 1: be stretching so far and so on. He said, but
Speaker 1: Parsons and Diggs were off to the side doing their
Speaker 1: own things. He said, it rubbed them the wrong way.
Speaker 1: Now I don't know that's true. Maybe he got an
Speaker 1: actra grind with Michael. Maybe he got an act to
Speaker 1: grind with a tray bon.
Speaker 2: I don't know. But as he said, one of the reasons.
Speaker 1: That we cut him was because we told him that
Speaker 1: he was not allowed to stay. And then there were
Speaker 1: a host of other reasons, so production and tolerance. Oh,
Speaker 1: let me ask your question. Had he stayed, Joe? Had
Speaker 1: he stayed? But he had six picks, four pats, broakeups
Speaker 1: a forest fumble.
Speaker 2: Are they cutting?
Speaker 4: No? Not, Okay, I said, Hey, I got I got
Speaker 4: another question for you. So let me tell you something.
Speaker 2: Joe. I know that's your team.
Speaker 4: You love your Dallas Cowboys. I understand that. But think
Speaker 4: about all the people A and and Chad.
Speaker 5: Think about all the people that have recently that have
Speaker 5: left the Dallas Cowboys. Tell me how they once they
Speaker 5: departed Dragon trying to I'm not talking about the Cowboys
Speaker 5: in general. I'm talking about the players that have been
Speaker 5: able to find love and and and and and go
Speaker 5: on to green and Green.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Everywhere it seemed to seem to produce. And and maybe
Speaker 4: for Trayvon Dicks, maybe it's great that he's.
Speaker 5: Going to a chance, not only going to Yes, he's
Speaker 5: going to a team and had the chance to compete
Speaker 5: in the postseason for a change.
Speaker 2: He says he's healthy.
Speaker 1: Cowboys for the longest time said that he wasn't. Jerry
Speaker 1: said that he wasn't healthy, healthy shod He says that
Speaker 1: he wasn't healthy. I don't know, Joe, you and not
Speaker 1: not there. We don't see the man. He said he's healthy.
Speaker 1: I've got to take his word for it, even though
Speaker 1: they say he's not. They're not in his body. Just
Speaker 1: like when people tell me, hey, you good, bro, you
Speaker 1: don't know how bad, but how bad, how bad this
Speaker 1: pain is.
Speaker 2: Don't tell me I'm good. Hell, I know.
Speaker 1: I know my pain level at the on the pain
Speaker 1: in which I can in which.
Speaker 2: I can handle. Again, Chad, I don't mean to be
Speaker 2: the dead horse.
Speaker 1: It's called production in tolerance, and when production is up here,
Speaker 1: tolerance is up here. Tolerance will never outweigh production. I
Speaker 1: don't give a damn who you are. Yeah, you see
Speaker 1: it all the time. Well, how was he able to
Speaker 1: get it because he makes the company money. He produces
Speaker 1: sachs interception yards touchdown.
Speaker 2: That's how.
Speaker 4: Hey, take your time.
Speaker 2: Now, come on.
Speaker 1: As my coach in college told us, he said, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna treat y'all all fair, but I ain't treating you
Speaker 1: the same.
Speaker 4: Right, Hey, hey, hey, and a little bit though. I'm
Speaker 4: there's a way.
Speaker 5: You gotta do things right. Yes, you have to learn
Speaker 5: as the player. You have to learn to play the
Speaker 5: game within the game. Yes, I kind of see I
Speaker 5: see your side, clearest day. I see your side, clearest day.
Speaker 5: But I'm just understanding as the coach, I think because
Speaker 5: of all the issues that he's had with Trayvon in
Speaker 5: general at the with the team that we don't.
Speaker 4: Know about the rest of the stuff.
Speaker 5: Yes, why he didn't grant him that reason to stay back,
Speaker 5: I think. I think I think it would have been
Speaker 5: different than it was someone else that may have asked.
Speaker 5: You know what, I'm happy, I just want to see
Speaker 5: my family a little bit and to okay if I
Speaker 5: stay back and do X y Z. But the fact
Speaker 5: that they asked him to do things in the past
Speaker 5: and he chose not to be there, Hell no, we
Speaker 5: ain't gonna let you stay, you get on this flight,
Speaker 5: and if you need to go wherever you need to go,
Speaker 5: you and all the way back where were flying from,
Speaker 5: and then we'll see you Wednesday morning.
Speaker 3: Hey, I agree with y'all saying I think it. I
Speaker 3: think it was time for tray Von to get a
Speaker 3: change of singing. I'm with you on that, o Jo.
Speaker 3: But the grass ain't always green over.
Speaker 4: There, bro, it's green, is green, and it's green, green and.
Speaker 3: Green bay A what you always say every year you
Speaker 3: gotta update your resume.
Speaker 2: Now I gotta you resume. You know, we don't know
Speaker 2: what next year's gonna know. He not, Oh, y'all know
Speaker 2: he ain't the same player.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but hey, listen, sometimes you're not the same player.
Speaker 5: You go in the right situation, in the right environment,
Speaker 5: you're able to flourish.
Speaker 2: But I was supposed to give you the same money
Speaker 2: even though you're not the same place. Yep.
Speaker 4: I mean, man, we mean, we ain't going that far.
Speaker 2: Hey, But here's the thing, Ojo.
Speaker 1: Plus, he didn't have any more guaranteed money, so I
Speaker 1: got no more obligation. I ain't got I ain't gotta
Speaker 1: pay you no more because guess what now, even now,
Speaker 1: the Green Bay picked him up. They got to pay
Speaker 1: that four hundred and two hundred and thirty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: for that Land's game check.
Speaker 2: I ain't got nothing to do with that.
Speaker 4: You know what, they're not really worried about that. I
Speaker 4: know what they know.
Speaker 5: They understand, they understand the pieces that they are getting,
Speaker 5: and they're gonna put the piece that they are getting
Speaker 5: based on what they see, what they've seen, and what
Speaker 5: they knowing.
Speaker 4: He can do, and put him in position to be
Speaker 4: able to do the things that he's good at. And
Speaker 4: I like that for young Bull.
Speaker 5: I mean I wish, I wish it would have worked out,
Speaker 5: because who doesn't want to play for Dallas Joe and
Speaker 5: I who don't want to have that goddamn star in
Speaker 5: a helmet? But I think the situation in a relationship
Speaker 5: with the Cowboy, then Trayvon Diggs is gone.
Speaker 4: It's going south.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was headed that way.
Speaker 1: James Slater, My point was joean Ocho, Jane Slater, who's
Speaker 1: the insideer who covers the Cowboys, and she's like Mary
Speaker 1: Kay Cabot. When Mary Kay Cavin speaks about the Cleveland Browns,
Speaker 1: you listen to her. When Jane Slater speaks about the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: You listen to her and she was like he reached
Speaker 1: out to her. But she said she can't recall where
Speaker 1: Jerry has ever found a player for not showing up.
Speaker 1: I think she's been covering them for a decade, at
Speaker 1: least a decade, and she said she can't remember. So
Speaker 1: that should have been an indication to Trayvon right there.
Speaker 2: That was a one to know Joe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't really if I'm going to a carson,
Speaker 1: if I'm crossing the railroad tracks, I don't really have
Speaker 1: to see the train. If I see them arms go
Speaker 1: down in the red light flash, I don't even got
Speaker 1: to see it.
Speaker 2: I just know the train coming.
Speaker 1: All the time that he's probably been fined all the
Speaker 1: times has been done that. Jerry probably forgave that because
Speaker 1: he had LEMP picks. He's the first team All Pro,
Speaker 1: He's gone the Pro Bowl. So once them arms come down,
Speaker 1: I'm coming into a railroad track and what a training
Speaker 1: that man, I can beat it from That should have
Speaker 1: been an indication. I believe Brian Schottenheimer is trying to
Speaker 1: change the culture. There too many times guys have been
Speaker 1: doing whatever they want to do. Now we're a team.
Speaker 1: That's one thing might preach. Nah, we're not gonna come
Speaker 1: out here. We're not non all tournament team. You're gonna
Speaker 1: be dressed like you dressed on Sunday. Now, if you
Speaker 1: don't wear pads on Sunday, come out to practice with
Speaker 1: no pads. But if you wear pads on Sunday, don't
Speaker 1: you bring your ass out here with no pads. So
Speaker 1: whoever don't have on pads and you wear pads on Sunday,
Speaker 1: take cands back inside. I ain't moved because I ain't
Speaker 1: wear no paths. All I had was showing the paths
Speaker 1: of the helmet. That's how you have to do it, oh, Joe.
Speaker 1: If you want to change the culture, sometimes, Joe, and
Speaker 1: you notice basketball, you gotta get some of your better
Speaker 1: players because they're bad app but you gotta get them
Speaker 1: out of there because sometimes some of your best players
Speaker 1: are most influential and they'll influence other guys.
Speaker 2: And I don't want that.
Speaker 4: I feel you. But you already know what you need
Speaker 4: when it comes to win a game, right, Yeah, you
Speaker 4: know you know what you're gonna need. You're gonna need,
Speaker 4: You're gonna need some dogs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they rut again, some better against some d lineman.
Speaker 1: That's what they need. They need somebody that can hunt
Speaker 1: the quarterback. I don't I don't care. I don't care
Speaker 1: anything about yourself. I don't care who they are. You
Speaker 1: better get somebody to go hunt that quarterback because without
Speaker 1: that pressure, if you let him sit back there and
Speaker 1: and and just pack this ball like it's seven on seven.
Speaker 1: You saw the game on Sunday night. You saw what
Speaker 1: they did. You saw the Rams and Seahawks go up
Speaker 1: and down the field. You've got to have somebody to
Speaker 1: put pressure in that quarterback. Oh yo, I don't care
Speaker 1: how good your cornerback. Cornerbacks are. They can't hold up
Speaker 1: all day. They cannot. And for the production that Trayvon
Speaker 1: was giving them, they finally said you're not worth a headache.
Speaker 5: Well listen, they said it with one game left in
Speaker 5: the season and they not going to the postseason.
Speaker 1: I mean that, oh yo, that I told you they
Speaker 1: were moving on after the season. He just sped the
Speaker 1: process up.
Speaker 4: He expecdited it. And you know what, I think, I
Speaker 4: think he doesn't see.
Speaker 5: No problem with that, because if he saw a problem
Speaker 5: with that, if he was worried about the consequences of
Speaker 5: him stand back.
Speaker 4: He wouldn't have done it. He wouldn't have done it
Speaker 4: because they already told him no, so he sped it up. Also,
Speaker 4: we have to see man.
Speaker 5: You know what, man, we ain't going No goddamn well,
Speaker 5: they they've been playing with me.
Speaker 4: I'm telling them healthy they not. They not let me play.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 5: I'm a healthy guy, healthy. Goddamn scratch I played today.
Speaker 5: I'm asking if I could say back.
Speaker 4: They said no.
Speaker 1: You know, man, let me ask you a question on Joe.
Speaker 1: You got there three years, You've been there last three years.
Speaker 1: You got three touchdowns. Cincinnati not gonna let you do
Speaker 1: what they normally do if you had thirteen touchdowns in
Speaker 1: three years.
Speaker 4: But listen, I'm with you. Are you writing I'm picking up,
Speaker 4: picking up Sincinnati?
Speaker 1: Let you act the food. You had thirteen hundred, you
Speaker 1: have fourteen hundred. You had sixteen hundred, You had ninety catches,
Speaker 1: you had eighty five catches, you got fifty five catches.
Speaker 1: Your name Chad Johnson, and you need to act a quarterly.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling it.
Speaker 5: He is.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you that's how cold, that's how it
Speaker 1: works in the real world. You asked but well, man,
Speaker 1: such and such late, such and such. He might be
Speaker 1: twenty minutes late, thirty minutes late. But when he's here,
Speaker 1: he's very productive. He gets the job done. You here
Speaker 1: early and be bullgiby you at the water cooler, gossman
Speaker 1: about he late.
Speaker 2: He come in, sit his ass down in his desk,
Speaker 2: a cubical, and go to work.
Speaker 1: God's life ain't fair, and you've got to stop judging
Speaker 1: and think everybody what I do. It doesn't work like that.
Speaker 1: It never has and it never will once you understand
Speaker 1: that the job life is so it's so, it's so easy.
Speaker 4: It is he uncle Joe.
Speaker 5: When it comes to basketball, when it comes to football,
Speaker 5: when it comes to the corporate world, when it comes
Speaker 5: to any and everything dealing with life in general. It's
Speaker 5: a game within a game, and the better you learn
Speaker 5: the game, the better for you are, the better of
Speaker 5: if you are the higher, the higher you are at
Speaker 5: the top of whatever it is you're doing, the more
Speaker 5: you get to.
Speaker 4: Play the game your way.
Speaker 5: Yes, but if if you're not up there, if you're
Speaker 5: not the big dog, if you're not the one calling
Speaker 5: the shots, you have to learn to play the game.
Speaker 2: And I think the thing is o Joe.
Speaker 1: You mentioned that he's now in Green Bay or his
Speaker 1: best friend Michael Parkson in Green Bay. Although we know
Speaker 1: Michael towards knee ligament and he's gonna be out, but
Speaker 1: he's he's there with somebody familiar.
Speaker 2: We talked about. We talked to the young gentleman last night.
Speaker 1: Higgins, our state receiver goes in the second round and
Speaker 1: then he goes in the third lot. Jalen Noel, Jayalen Nole.
Speaker 1: He goes in the third round familiarity, someone there that
Speaker 1: he knows. He's not gonna be there by himself. But
Speaker 1: I just I just want him to get back to
Speaker 1: being who and what he is. He has to understand, Ojo,
Speaker 1: when you're not a spit. The thing is when you're
Speaker 1: not a speed merchand Ojo and you have a knee injury.
Speaker 1: See like Tyreek, like you said, Okay, ty Reech is
Speaker 1: not gonna be four two five, he gonna be be
Speaker 1: four three eight four four flat.
Speaker 2: That's still faster than eighty five nine of the NFL.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, But when you four five five four six and
Speaker 1: you have.
Speaker 2: An injury, naw, you gotta play. You gotta play the defense. Cub.
Speaker 2: You gotta play straight up.
Speaker 5: And also not only do you have to play straight up.
Speaker 5: It's all about having a feel for the game and
Speaker 5: understanding the game. You play dB for a very long time,
Speaker 5: you being four five and having somebody for three across
Speaker 5: from you, you understand it's all about leverage. It's all
Speaker 5: about angles, using your hand to be able to reset yourself,
Speaker 5: reposition the line of scrimmage. It's so many different things.
Speaker 5: And I love you know how I feel when it
Speaker 5: come to talk about dbs.
Speaker 4: Yes, I love that, Joe.
Speaker 5: I love talking from perspective because I play receiver, so
Speaker 5: I understand what you got to do as a dB
Speaker 5: to be to always be able to go into the ball.
Speaker 5: So I think, even if he's not the same Trayvon
Speaker 5: Diggs of Bold, there are things that you can do
Speaker 5: to manipulate your game to make sure you stay.
Speaker 4: On top of your ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's it's the hardest thing to d
Speaker 3: I think he'll still be effective, ojo Uh. I think
Speaker 3: he'll he'll take some time to really uh get acclimated
Speaker 3: in Green Bay and really show that he can he
Speaker 3: can get back to being a top corner. So I'm
Speaker 3: sure you're gonna take the challenge on this for sure.
Speaker 3: After the hardest thing to do is to convince ourselves
Speaker 3: we're not what we used to be. It's a real
Speaker 3: fine line between confidence and delusion. Be careful, listen, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna say that again, O Joe. There's a real fine
Speaker 3: line between confidence and delusion. How do we tell ourselves?
Speaker 3: How do we convince ourselves?
Speaker 1: Because this is what made us great, the confidence, Joe,
Speaker 1: That's what made Joe Johnson who he is.
Speaker 2: That's who made oh Joe who he was. A confidence.
Speaker 1: But as we start to age, as we suffer injuries
Speaker 1: and we're not the player that we once was we
Speaker 1: once excuse me, we want work, how do we handle that?
Speaker 2: That's tough? Yeah, damn.
Speaker 1: Sam and Johnson had a quote he says, almost every
Speaker 1: man will waste a part of his life, Oh Joe,
Speaker 1: trying to possess characteristics he don't have to gain applause
Speaker 1: for which you cannot keep.
Speaker 4: Come on, man, come on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 4: Do men favor rewind that for the pa for the
Speaker 4: people that didn't hear it, so so it can marinate
Speaker 4: a little bit. Chackt y'all that real quick man.
Speaker 1: We all if we every man will try to possess
Speaker 1: characteristics he don't have, basically in the hopes of coming
Speaker 1: to something he's not to gain thing an applause for
Speaker 1: which he cannot keep.
Speaker 5: Oh non, That's that's why I love just being my stuff.
Speaker 5: Joe and I ain't never changed. Joe, Joe, Hey, Joe.
Speaker 5: Them folks tried to get me the change so bad
Speaker 5: in the lead, Joe, I couldn't do it. I didn't
Speaker 5: know anything else outside of just being myself.
Speaker 2: Joe.
Speaker 5: I ain't had no choice but to be good at
Speaker 5: what I do because I conformed to what y'all think
Speaker 5: I should.
Speaker 4: Where the funck was, y'all when I was in elementary This.
Speaker 2: Is how acted, y'all?
Speaker 4: When I was in high school and played and I scored?
Speaker 2: This is how acted?
Speaker 5: Where was y'all when I was watching the Hurricanes in
Speaker 5: the nineties and Randall Hill, Lamar Thomas and all them
Speaker 5: boys and Michael Hrdan was scoring.
Speaker 4: They acting a fool When.
Speaker 5: I'm looking at the TV telling my grandma, I don't
Speaker 5: want to be like them, But y'all, oh nine made it.
Speaker 4: Now you're telling me I'm supposed to change.
Speaker 5: Ain't not gonna be every bit of Liberty City in
Speaker 5: Dad County an time I get a chance. I don't
Speaker 5: care about the money you paying me. Joe, Huh, why
Speaker 5: I never changed. I'm not here playing for the money.
Speaker 5: I'm going to remain authentically in myself everything that made me.
Speaker 4: Me, and I'm gonna keep doing it. It don't matter
Speaker 4: how much money you take from me.
Speaker 5: Joe, I played the game of football free because the
Speaker 5: one thing they use for us to be able to
Speaker 5: keep us under control and to keep mine, Joe, they
Speaker 5: take what they think we value most.
Speaker 2: Joe, yep, gonna take his money. I valued it. I
Speaker 2: don't lie.
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, you know what I love about our
Speaker 1: tight end, the all pro s what I love about it?
Speaker 1: And he played this game for free. I'm still up
Speaker 1: and say, yeah, but everybody else need to play for free. Two.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna be the only Mobo playing for free.
Speaker 1: That just just so we clear, Joe. You know what,
Speaker 1: Joe that you that he played for free?
Speaker 2: You right? But I need everybody else to play for
Speaker 2: free too. I ain't the only one gonna be playing
Speaker 2: for Mike.
Speaker 1: Mike didn't really have a problem with celebrating and all that.
Speaker 1: He said long you don't cost your team a penalty. Yes,
Speaker 1: you don't call your team penloty. So somebody did something
Speaker 1: dirty to me, I would get your ass back. I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna cost you no penoy, but I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: your back. I'm gonna get your back.
Speaker 5: Right, Hey, hey, Joe. One thing about it, Joe, know,
Speaker 5: I hate to say it in this way, in these words, right,
Speaker 5: but that's the only way to keep the niggas in line.
Speaker 4: Excuse me, my lane, excuse my lang. You know you
Speaker 4: take the money. That's the only way.
Speaker 2: I gotta take what you value.
Speaker 4: Got to take your value.
Speaker 1: But in the mom what they do, Joe, to hit
Speaker 1: your family because you value that your mom, your wife,
Speaker 1: your kid, your mom?
Speaker 2: You what what do you value?
Speaker 1: See in the NFL, they know you value you want
Speaker 1: to You work hard to get in the position. O.
Speaker 1: Joe became an All Pro, He became a Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: player so he can make money. He valued money. That's
Speaker 1: why he worked his ass off.
Speaker 2: He wanted it.
Speaker 1: He wanted to be able to put it, be in
Speaker 1: a position to take to take care of his family. Well,
Speaker 1: let me take a little bit off it. Let me
Speaker 1: take a little bit of this off it let me
Speaker 1: light this load a little bit.
Speaker 4: It ain't matter of fact. He tell Joe about that
Speaker 4: time I tried to Joe, he kill me. Don't give
Speaker 4: that CBS did, huh I was.
Speaker 2: I was, Yeah that CBS let me.
Speaker 1: That was before, oh Joe, you know that was before that,
Speaker 1: before now when everybody think the game was sold, because
Speaker 1: they really think the game sold now. So if you
Speaker 1: were to do that now, man, they might take they
Speaker 1: might suspend you with your head. What you do with Joe?
Speaker 1: He got a call, they got a call, and he
Speaker 1: tried to get official dollar, like to change his mind
Speaker 1: on the call.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 5: It was a catch, you know, and I forgot who
Speaker 5: is it? Billick who was a Ravens coach at.
Speaker 2: The time, Brian Billick.
Speaker 4: Brian Billick threw a red challenge fag I felt I
Speaker 4: caught the ball.
Speaker 5: So I'm thinking to myself, I'm sitting there, you know what,
Speaker 5: I'm finna just play around real quick and had a
Speaker 5: dollar in masak. The dollar in my sock was for
Speaker 5: a celebration, so I used a dollar as just a
Speaker 5: jokingly trying to bribe the ref when he came up
Speaker 5: outside the replay booth and I tried to hand it
Speaker 5: to him, like, call.
Speaker 2: Joe, Joe.
Speaker 4: The NFL found me about twenty thousand. The next morning.
Speaker 2: They ain't playing.
Speaker 4: Look but Joe, Joe.
Speaker 5: It's moments like that, Joe, I ain't worry about that
Speaker 5: thirty thousand. I'm not even tripping. I'm out here having
Speaker 5: fun and entertaining. And on top of that, I'm playing
Speaker 5: at the top I'm playing. I wouldn't just know anybody, Joe.
Speaker 5: I'm acting a fool, but I'm great at what I
Speaker 5: do as far as.
Speaker 4: Producing this concern.
Speaker 5: So, I mean, the Bengals ain't care because they understood
Speaker 5: weekend and week out, whether it's playing home allway.
Speaker 4: As one person, we don't have to worry about.
Speaker 5: He might act a fool and have some fun, but
Speaker 5: he gonna show up every after the game.
Speaker 3: Hey okay, oh Joe, Hey, look, I wasn't giving them
Speaker 3: nothing back, you hear me.
Speaker 2: Man, I ain't.
Speaker 1: Look they got me with something uniform. Oh, they got
Speaker 1: me a uniform of Joe Joe socks. Cause you know
Speaker 1: you got you can't show no skin. So Joe got
Speaker 1: tackled me. I'm supposed to pull my sauce up, bro,
Speaker 1: I ain't think I ain't even thinking about that, man,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about the next lane. I'm thinking about beating
Speaker 1: No Boy again, or beating somebody else. And they find
Speaker 1: y out for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, mind clouds.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the first the first offense is five thousand, and
Speaker 5: that's another place where all my money went.
Speaker 4: I wore a stream of towel, Joe.
Speaker 5: You know the look gatorade towers, y'all had the long
Speaker 5: Gatoray towels build the bench. I cut a streamer towel
Speaker 5: and had a stream of towel hanging on the side
Speaker 5: of the hip.
Speaker 4: Mind they give you towels away, Joe. I want mine long.
Speaker 4: I want mind long and pretty. So I won.
Speaker 5: If you look at if you look at some pictures
Speaker 5: of me, sometimes I have an orange chin strap, depending
Speaker 5: on what color jersey wearing. Sometimes they have a black
Speaker 5: chint strap, Joe aim Man. Sometimes a clease was gold, Joe,
Speaker 5: our colors range.
Speaker 2: You're black.
Speaker 4: What I'm doing with gold?
Speaker 2: You're doing what you want to do right that I'm doing.
Speaker 4: Man, I'm listening.
Speaker 1: You look good, you play, and if you play good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Joe wasn't lying on Yo and Joe's whole career. He
Speaker 1: was only fire six.
Speaker 3: Thousand dollars nothing back man, he ojoe?
Speaker 2: Where I'm from? Two technical files in a dejection. Whet
Speaker 2: I got objected? I think it was like one time,
Speaker 2: but I'll who.
Speaker 3: Your customers has been some muscase. No, no, I don't
Speaker 3: complain to the rest. When I played, man, I played
Speaker 3: through all that. So if I if I got onto
Speaker 3: the rift, it's because it's something really happy man, and
Speaker 3: you missed it.
Speaker 2: Bro. He deserved it. He deserved it. But I ain't
Speaker 2: just out there just hoighered the rift for no reason.
Speaker 2: Nah mm hmm. Remember, oh Joe, you take this with you.
Speaker 1: Almost every man will waste a part of his life
Speaker 1: trying to possess qualities. It does not have an attempt
Speaker 1: to gain applause for which you cannot keep.
Speaker 4: Oh non, come on now, oh tell let.
Speaker 2: Me ask you this.
Speaker 1: Do you think he could actually help the Packers defense
Speaker 1: the second? The Packers have the seventh best pass defense
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five with this a favor of the
Speaker 1: micah or do you believe Trayvon because they're kind of
Speaker 1: banged up in the secondary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but do you believe he can actually help them?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I believe so.
Speaker 5: I believe so the fact that their seventh in past defense,
Speaker 5: they're gonna put him in positions to be able to
Speaker 5: do what he does well, whether we believe he's the
Speaker 5: same or not.
Speaker 4: And they gonna be all right.
Speaker 5: Obviously that front four that they do have that can
Speaker 5: get home when they do play, once.
Speaker 4: They get into the postseason.
Speaker 5: I think Treyvon is gonna be spectacular and in the
Speaker 5: way they use him, and that that that's what matters most.
Speaker 5: It's not like, damn, our front four is not good.
Speaker 5: We can't get to the quarterback, so now we need
Speaker 5: our back end. They'll carry us and do what they do. Man,
Speaker 5: And people may maybe, hey, Joe, you got maybe two
Speaker 5: damn maybe three seconds to throw the ball when you're playing,
Speaker 5: because the goddamn packets. Even in the absence the man,
Speaker 5: we're gonna.
Speaker 1: Get the football in just a second. But then, Joe,
Speaker 1: this is right up your alley. Anthony F. Edwards was
Speaker 1: clearly frustrated by the team performance tonight. They lost one
Speaker 1: twenty six one or two to the Atlanta Hawks. After
Speaker 1: head coach Chris Finch pull Will starter Ant left the
Speaker 1: bench went to the locker room with a little under
Speaker 1: eight minutes left in the game, the Hawks led at
Speaker 1: the time one on nine to eighty. Finch called time
Speaker 1: out after the called him out after the game, said
Speaker 1: obviously frustrated with the performance, and rightfully so, but he
Speaker 1: needs to stay on the floor and root for his team.
Speaker 1: Today's game continue the frustrating stretch for the Wolves, who
Speaker 1: have lost three of the four games, despite ant Man
Speaker 1: averaging thirty one point three during that stretch, Minnesota sitting
Speaker 1: twenty one and thirteen this year in sixth place in
Speaker 1: the West according to ESPN.
Speaker 2: Ant Man, and Atlanta native.
Speaker 1: Who played college ball at Georgia, had a number of
Speaker 1: old friends and family at tonight's game, including his grandfather Dan.
Speaker 2: I get all that, brot you down, fire.
Speaker 1: Him, Joe, you ain't coming back with eight minutes to
Speaker 1: go with down coming back.
Speaker 2: But you know you gotta control your emotions. Bro. I'm
Speaker 2: no I'm saying that's why Finch took him out. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 3: But my thing is, here's what a man thinking. He thinking, Man,
Speaker 3: I'm back home making crib. I'm finna come out of
Speaker 3: the show out because he was bawling, he was balling.
Speaker 3: He the only one was balling. The rest of them
Speaker 3: dudes act like they didn't even know they had a game.
Speaker 3: And I think, you know, he thinking to himself, Man,
Speaker 3: I got all my people out here, y'all come out.
Speaker 3: We put on this lackluster performance in front of my
Speaker 3: folks out here. Yeah, he he, he got a little
Speaker 3: beside himself. He was pissed off. I could tell. But
Speaker 3: I thought his play was pretty good. Uncle o Joe.
Speaker 2: He was bawling.
Speaker 3: He the only man he had thirty I think, like
Speaker 3: in the third quarter, like they couldn't stop him, but
Speaker 3: nobody else was giving him anything on his team. Plus
Speaker 3: the Hawks were uh, man, they was hitting on all cylinders. Okay,
Speaker 3: oh Joe, they weren't missing. They moving a basketball, everybody
Speaker 3: touching it.
Speaker 2: Then they have like, though, here's here's the thing.
Speaker 3: Because I've been hearing a lot of the rumblins about
Speaker 3: Trey Young and when he came back, you know how
Speaker 3: the Hawks haven't been playing great.
Speaker 2: Uh they You can't game.
Speaker 3: Plan for the guys who's out there now when Trey
Speaker 3: is not out there, It's hard to game plan for
Speaker 3: those guys, you know what I mean. Like when Trey
Speaker 3: is out there, he's such a focal point of the
Speaker 3: offense that you know, you put so much attention on
Speaker 3: him that, you know, I think it kind of creates
Speaker 3: a little havoc or what not throughout the team. But
Speaker 3: I think when Trade doesn't play, everybody just kind of
Speaker 3: plays freely. Nobody's really getting double team, triple team. Jalen
Speaker 3: Johnson has been spectacular throughout.
Speaker 2: This Yeah, where the hell did he come from? Joe,
Speaker 2: he got hurt last year. He would have been an All
Speaker 2: Star last year, but he got hurt. This year.
Speaker 3: They got him in and in places on the court
Speaker 3: the way he's so effective. But he's a prototypical UH
Speaker 3: forward in today's game of basketball.
Speaker 2: I mean, he could do everything.
Speaker 3: He could shoot the three, he rebound, block shots, play defense,
Speaker 3: he can play make. He has no weakness and you
Speaker 3: can tell. Look if you look at the month of
Speaker 3: I think December, he averager a triple double. In this
Speaker 3: whole month of December, he's been he's been bomb balling.
Speaker 1: He had thirty four to nine on fifteen to twenty two,
Speaker 1: three or six from the three point line, one on
Speaker 1: one from the free throw line, ten rebounds, six assists,
Speaker 1: two steals at a blo balling man, But a man
Speaker 1: you said, Joe ad Man had thirty. Uh he was
Speaker 1: ten of eighteen, three of eight from three, seven of
Speaker 1: eight from the free throw line. Uh.
Speaker 2: He played thirty three minutes.
Speaker 3: Man, listen, can you imagine unk, if you was playing,
Speaker 3: If you was playing and y'all came out here and
Speaker 3: you playing against the Falcons, Unk, you got, you know,
Speaker 3: you out here doing your thing, but y'all getting blue
Speaker 3: out and you got your whole family and friends out
Speaker 3: Like Man, I totally so.
Speaker 1: I cut up on the falcons on we went down
Speaker 1: there now itself. No, the devil went down to Joe's.
Speaker 1: You're looking for a soda steel? How didnumb on Neil?
Speaker 1: I hit ab up I hit ab up on yo
Speaker 1: for like five for a buckle, a bucko, three of
Speaker 1: a tub sixty four yards.
Speaker 2: Second player of the game, third player of the game.
Speaker 2: Come home and show up and show out.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I had twenty take Adam spit that, but
Speaker 1: they got to see me show out man being bro
Speaker 1: like did he you know?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure. It just it just wasn't a game.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: The Hanks was hitting on the all cylinders, and you know,
Speaker 3: I know he probably was like, man, we gotta come
Speaker 3: out here and get a win.
Speaker 2: And it just didn't happened that way. They actually got embarrassed.
Speaker 2: They did.
Speaker 1: I mean the twenty four But the game really wasn't
Speaker 1: that close. It wasn't It wasn't that close.
Speaker 4: Jokes speaking of basketball.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm I'm down here in the Bahamas, right, yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm at the cigar bar and Bahamas right, I'm sitting
Speaker 5: I'm sitting there with the missus, sitting there smoking a cigar.
Speaker 4: And I'm looking down on the phone and I see
Speaker 4: somebody sitting in front of me. I can see him.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna prifew He said, what's up?
Speaker 2: Oh shoe?
Speaker 4: And you know, I don't really look at I say,
Speaker 4: how you doing? Happy New Year?
Speaker 2: Sir?
Speaker 4: He said, oh too? This is John. Now I look
Speaker 4: up and got damn John stars man?
Speaker 2: Oh is it? I stood up?
Speaker 4: So what's up? Bringing?
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 2: Boy?
Speaker 1: You and campbo to y'all, all of you at Camp
Speaker 1: bad to getting frequently, aren't you?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 5: Know right, yeah, I'm gonna bring it right. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: bringing it upside down. But listen to me, Joe got
Speaker 5: un the flight from Miami to the Bahamas.
Speaker 4: It's sixteen minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I could. I jump.
Speaker 5: I could have swam me here, but you know, normally
Speaker 5: normally fly Spirit, but I jumped on that.
Speaker 4: I jumped on the Jet Blue flight right.
Speaker 2: J Yeah, jet Blue got some nice flights.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Hey, only with seventy two dollars. Yeah, seventy dollars slack.
Speaker 4: You know, I jumped on it. And uh, you know
Speaker 4: we're going to the parade tonight. You see what my
Speaker 4: shirt say?
Speaker 5: Hey, you can see what I say Valley boys, valid boy,
Speaker 5: and you see what I say right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah boy?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, the greatest, the incomparable, the only one, the
Speaker 5: Valley Boy, the junking tonight. You don't start to two
Speaker 5: in the morning. So I'm excited.
Speaker 2: I'm happy.
Speaker 5: Sure, I'm sure I have some some junkerdo fans here
Speaker 5: in the chat. You know, Vallee, we bringing it home today.
Speaker 5: They have Boxing Day parade. We came in second, and
Speaker 5: so we got the New York the New Year's Day raid,
Speaker 5: which you can brag about for the next the next eleven.
Speaker 2: Everybody got a hat on, so I figured I put
Speaker 2: your hat on too.
Speaker 4: What's your what's your hat say?
Speaker 1: On?
Speaker 2: Nightcap?
Speaker 4: Hey, let me tell you something when we get up,
Speaker 4: when we get on, when we get off this When
Speaker 4: we get off this.
Speaker 2: Show tonight, it's going down.
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, well that's what it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: Ca.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what I'm saying, Hey, a matter of fact, put
Speaker 4: it back and Anna, I'm gonna cap my.
Speaker 1: Knife of your a willy when I get off back camp.
Speaker 2: I wish I could get on something, but you do,
Speaker 2: old poor humbler.
Speaker 1: Now, ain't nobody no good trouble? Lize.
Speaker 4: See, hey, I thought you had something. No what happened?
Speaker 4: Are we supposed to have a double wedding in twenty
Speaker 4: twenty six. You're supposed to be on point number two pencil.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I don't want to rehash your thing, but your money,
Speaker 1: your boy money jump funny. So you know, the phone
Speaker 1: don't ring quite like it used to. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, don't ring. I did change the number, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't ringing like it's.
Speaker 4: Hold on, I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 4: you this is. This is a good thing.
Speaker 5: This is now if if your phone not ringing because
Speaker 5: the money is not what it is? Yeah, they're not
Speaker 5: the one for you. Okay said that, you said that.
Speaker 4: This is what you need to understand. See globally, not
Speaker 4: just here in the States. Globally, I'm known for not
Speaker 4: spending no money.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, do.
Speaker 4: For not being a t R I C P. You know,
Speaker 4: like you you know I'm talking.
Speaker 5: I'm a fifty fifty Okay.
Speaker 4: Hey, Joe, I ain't got no problem pulling what really
Speaker 4: likes me for.
Speaker 2: Me, right, you know?
Speaker 4: So there's somebody out there for.
Speaker 2: You, Okay, Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 4: You're gonna find it. You're gonna find it. Twenty twenty
Speaker 4: six in January got him where it ain't.
Speaker 5: It ain't got nothing to do with no money because
Speaker 5: you don't need no liability.
Speaker 2: Hey, you're right, you're right on, Joe, and you.
Speaker 4: Need you a nice foundation, huh huh stable.
Speaker 2: Okay, something you can build on, build on it.
Speaker 4: They goes you stacked you stacked one on top of them.
Speaker 1: Well, I was hoping to build I was hoping to
Speaker 1: build on something into the New Year. But you know, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll wait till I get into the New Years. I
Speaker 1: was hoping I had a thirty foundations of putting it me.
Speaker 1: You don't, but you don't, Okay, I'll take your word
Speaker 1: for it, Joe.
Speaker 4: You're good. Matter of fact, I got somebody for you. Well,
Speaker 4: it ain't even bout no money.
Speaker 6: The right Sometimes sometimes Joe even don't need direction and
Speaker 6: we sometimes a woman can be your GPS.
Speaker 3: Hey, don't you ain't got to play cubid with him. Man,
Speaker 3: let it happen organically, let it let it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what doing.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, I have me some seeds.
Speaker 1: I got me some seeds.
Speaker 2: I let him drive.
Speaker 1: I plant them with further soil. I'm gonna see whatever grow.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see what's gonna grow. I don't know what
Speaker 1: gonna grow with y'all planned a lot of seeds though
Speaker 1: that man.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, Well they have there busting them guns already.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but uh, I get I get the frustration. But
Speaker 1: I agree with Chris Finch. Look, we understand that you frustrated.
Speaker 1: But your team they cheer for you when things are
Speaker 1: going well. Yeah, they need you. They want to see
Speaker 1: you on the sideline cheering for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I agree. I get I get your frustration.
Speaker 3: Agree you know what, and uh, I'm sure it needed
Speaker 3: to be addressed. But I can also understand how a
Speaker 3: man feel too, do it. I can also understand what happened. Man,
Speaker 3: I don't know what.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah man, we can see you.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 4: You you saw I cut out for a minute now, No.
Speaker 2: You didn't, I did. I seen it cut out for
Speaker 2: a few seconds like hey.
Speaker 5: No, I'm saying my whole, my whole zoom and everything
Speaker 5: went away, I guess in the hotel, and then it
Speaker 5: just came back. Oh okay, we're good. I'm back now,
Speaker 5: I'm feeling I'm feeling good tonight. But I don't I
Speaker 5: don't even drink alcohol.
Speaker 1: H