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Speaker 2: Brian pretty intriguing guests. We have today a guy that
Speaker 2: you worked at the same place with I did, somebody
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Speaker 2: about the tables being turned former Patriots quarterback and voice
Speaker 2: of the New England Patriots on ninety five The Sports
Speaker 2: I'm Scott Zlac, So how about me asking you questions?
Speaker 3: I think technically, like Bob Soci's the voice of the Patriots,
Speaker 3: you gotta go with the plane.
Speaker 1: You're the color guy.
Speaker 3: I am. I'm the I'm the color voice of the Patriots.
Speaker 3: I would and you certainly provide color. I think I'm
Speaker 3: the energy guy. I think I'm the you could call
Speaker 3: me the Patriots type man.
Speaker 1: I think energy Guy's a good way to say it.
Speaker 1: How you doing do it? Great? It's good saying you guys.
Speaker 3: Of course, a great relationship with you, Matt with all
Speaker 3: access and uh he've done over the years. I got
Speaker 3: way back with Brian back when I got popped from
Speaker 3: the league and you're sitting around and Cobra runs out
Speaker 3: when I say, Cobra, your healthcare benefits paying a ton
Speaker 3: of money and you know this, we swear it here.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Sure, sort of a shitty job down in Providence, Pops,
Speaker 3: open this up. When I say shitty, I'm not talking
Speaker 3: about the building. I'm talking about the time slot five thirty.
Speaker 3: So I've never done radio before, and they said, we
Speaker 3: have this opportunity. There's a five thirty AM slot, five
Speaker 3: thirty to nine am, and uh, we'll give you a
Speaker 3: decent not.
Speaker 1: A decent salary. It was a shit salary and five
Speaker 1: five figures. Uh yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, but mid fives it was. I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't want to deal with money, money money there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you worked there, you know what it is.
Speaker 1: But it was full benefits. So when you got do
Speaker 1: you have kids yet? Oh yeah?
Speaker 3: I had, uh one two and we're Brody was just
Speaker 3: gonna be Bertie, which she was praying with Brody I
Speaker 3: ain't at the time. So yeah, then all came together
Speaker 3: quite nicely.
Speaker 1: Wow, from a benefit stamp, what we want to work?
Speaker 1: The environment a little different?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we'll get into the radio stuff, Scott, because
Speaker 2: the people who are listening to this probably a lot
Speaker 2: of them only know Scott Zolac from being on the radio.
Speaker 2: But there's a lot more to Scott Solac that got
Speaker 2: him to the radio. And here's another one. You've been
Speaker 2: in New England now, Scott since ninety two, so that's
Speaker 2: almost thirty years here in the area. But maybe people
Speaker 2: don't realize you weren't born in this area.
Speaker 1: Where were you born?
Speaker 3: Born in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I think I was ten pounds
Speaker 3: thirteen ounces. My mom had me naturally, which credit to
Speaker 3: her is for people to know me and see me
Speaker 3: on some of the pictures on the Patriots website. My
Speaker 3: head is rather large, so for her to push me out,
Speaker 3: that's pretty impressive on her part. You're gonna have some
Speaker 3: good pregnancy talk here, otomy I mean, for history's sake.
Speaker 3: I go up Morestern, Pennsylvania, hot hot bed for athletics.
Speaker 3: My dad went to the Nora High School. He was
Speaker 3: teammates with Ken Griffey Sr. So Griffy Senor who eventually
Speaker 3: played for the Reds. And we all know about Ken
Speaker 3: Griffy Jr.
Speaker 1: Later in life. Ends up being what Cincinnati Moler. I
Speaker 1: think it was a high.
Speaker 3: School at the time, and my dad was buddies with
Speaker 3: Griffy Senior played ball in high school. Uh he went
Speaker 3: on to coach, ended up coaching Joe Montana in high
Speaker 3: school way before Ken.
Speaker 1: Griffy Sam Musual was from our home. Oh yeah, wow.
Speaker 1: So stand a man, a splendid splinter.
Speaker 3: I remember I eventually went to the University of Maryland,
Speaker 3: and I remember coming home and any time Montana or
Speaker 3: Stan would come back to town. Now we're still milltown.
Speaker 3: Both my grandfathers worked in the steel mill. They made
Speaker 3: all of our tools at home, the hatchets, the hammers,
Speaker 3: sledge hammers. I stood in line for cheese and bread,
Speaker 3: Government cheese and bread with both my grandfathers. So sports
Speaker 3: was your way out of town there, and we came
Speaker 3: together as families Friday nights. It's it's like the movie
Speaker 3: All the Way Moves with Tom Cruz. Tremendous Friday nights
Speaker 3: shut down, you know, and you'd get on those buses
Speaker 3: you wore, you wore your game jerseys the school on Fridays,
Speaker 3: and there was nothing better in high school football, man,
Speaker 3: until we had to go to All equip and play
Speaker 3: Tylass Town.
Speaker 1: When they Yeah, they it's basically you know you're playing.
Speaker 3: It's called the pit equipping. I'm sure you've done stuff
Speaker 3: with ty Yeah.
Speaker 1: We like spring.
Speaker 3: By the way, he just texted me. I told him
Speaker 3: we were doing this. He says, Hello, that's my man.
Speaker 3: He's probably opening up what is forty seventh Trampoline Park.
Speaker 1: Uh, he's going to vodka. Yeah, one vodka.
Speaker 3: I even heard the voki yet his vaka is better
Speaker 3: be better than Matt Lights, Matt Frozen the freezer.
Speaker 1: I've heard that ty Law's vodka is exceptional. Same here
Speaker 1: from Pittsburgh. So how far away was all equipper from
Speaker 1: your town? Thirty minutes? Okay? Everything. You can put a
Speaker 1: dot and draw a thirty minute radius and circle that.
Speaker 3: And Joe Namath Montana, Johnny Unitas, Hostetler, Jim Kelly from
Speaker 3: East East Brady, PA. We're all from that centralized area there,
Speaker 3: Marino downtown. Of course, you know my later we'll get
Speaker 3: to the Marino part of it. That was one of
Speaker 3: my one of my favorite years playing pro football was
Speaker 3: my last year with Dan Marino in Miami.
Speaker 1: It was my idol growing up right so and Montana
Speaker 1: went to the same high school you went to. Went
Speaker 1: to the same high school. I went to my dad.
Speaker 3: My dad coach Joe. Joe's senior year was nineteen seventy four.
Speaker 3: Joe was a better baseball player and basketball player than.
Speaker 1: He was a football player. Wow.
Speaker 3: And he had this long flowing hair, and his nickname
Speaker 3: was Joe Montana Loo. I still have the high school
Speaker 3: chin straft from Joe's last high school football game he
Speaker 3: flipped to me.
Speaker 1: Flipped it to me because I was a seven year
Speaker 1: old water boy at the time. Joe used to kick
Speaker 1: off for the high school team.
Speaker 3: And my great stories about being a seven year old
Speaker 3: was being around my dad. And you know, I remember
Speaker 3: him cutting tape in film and I talked Coach Belichick
Speaker 3: about this all the time too, when we do some
Speaker 3: of the interviews, and you know, Bill's clicking on film
Speaker 3: and you know, you're dragging stuff and Jimmy Diane a
Speaker 3: great job he does here with the video crew. Everything's
Speaker 3: digital now. We would literally have to splice it and
Speaker 3: cut it with Scott's tape and put it in a
Speaker 3: splice machine.
Speaker 1: But do that with my dad.
Speaker 3: I would run on the field and get the kicking
Speaker 3: ta after Joe kicked off every game.
Speaker 1: And I'll never forget that. I could still remember this
Speaker 1: old tunnel that they walked up.
Speaker 3: It's the old Legion field Legion film in uh in DeNora, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 3: and it was the middle school because you would dress
Speaker 3: in this little locker room and you have to walk
Speaker 3: up this cement tunnel. You can still hear the click
Speaker 3: clack into those metal back in the day were middle
Speaker 3: cleat sure, those screwins and if they were out, they
Speaker 3: were never gonna wear out because they were metal. You know,
Speaker 3: nowadays these kids got these multi cleats now and millennials
Speaker 3: like you.
Speaker 2: So when you got older, Scott, do you remember when
Speaker 2: was the first time that your path crossed with Joe?
Speaker 1: And what was that like?
Speaker 3: Great question of course. Uh, my dad would follow Joe
Speaker 3: everywhere when all the Super Bowls. He would go with
Speaker 3: my old high school coach and they would find a way,
Speaker 3: you know, on an athletic director or former coach's salary,
Speaker 3: a teacher's salary with the head coach to scrap up
Speaker 3: the money to get in touch with one of Joe's
Speaker 3: family members to where they could get two tickets and
Speaker 3: you know, hey, we get the experience of going to
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. So that's a great thing about being
Speaker 3: around the Patriots, and the tough is finding and getting
Speaker 3: that hotel for the four at a price that you
Speaker 3: could manage. You know, you're trying to stay to La
Speaker 3: king through a motel six and get four guys to
Speaker 3: sleep in one room and shoot, okay, it's in New Orleans.
Speaker 3: Should we drive from Pittsburgh? When should we leave? We Wednesday,
Speaker 3: We'll get there Thursday. You know, Joe's family's got the
Speaker 3: party that we're all invited. But I remember my dad
Speaker 3: doing all that. But when Joe was with Kansas City
Speaker 3: and uh he was shut down because he had an injury,
Speaker 3: came here and we were playing it. But I remember,
Speaker 3: you know, being on the bus and Joe would bring
Speaker 3: me on the bus because he wasn't playing. He was
Speaker 3: in street clothes at the time and would sit around
Speaker 3: after the game. And it's the old Foxboro Stadium here
Speaker 3: where the old visitors locker room. Remember where Will mcdonnaugh
Speaker 3: gott in that infamous fight. Yeah, right down in that lot,
Speaker 3: down in that.
Speaker 1: And the buses.
Speaker 3: They would put the buses at the top of that tunnel,
Speaker 3: and uh, I just remember all people being trying around
Speaker 3: just get a peek at Joe, and it's sort of
Speaker 3: stuff we see now with Tom. And that's the coolest
Speaker 3: thing about being around the team now covering it, because
Speaker 3: I see a lot of stuff with Tom that I
Speaker 3: saw with Joe back in the days, and so it
Speaker 3: was kind of second natural to me.
Speaker 1: And I'd sit there and chuckle and look at these.
Speaker 3: People either just trying to get a get a snapshot
Speaker 3: or a high from Brady or Wave. And I just
Speaker 3: remember sitting on a on one of those buses with
Speaker 3: Joe and he has feet up and they had like
Speaker 3: a keg of beer in the back of the bus.
Speaker 1: Time. This is thanks a lot, been lot, and this
Speaker 1: is prod of Hill probably nine to eleven. We were
Speaker 1: able to do some things.
Speaker 3: And okay, yeah, we'll get to some of those stories too,
Speaker 3: some of those away trips on the West Coast trips
Speaker 3: and how we got through.
Speaker 2: But so you're on the bus with Joe as and
Speaker 2: and he what he remembers for you, Steve Bono, you
Speaker 2: know it's a seven year old ball boy and your
Speaker 2: dad doing him.
Speaker 3: My dad was there and he brought my dad on it.
Speaker 3: And you you haven't seen him, and you know, probably
Speaker 3: ten fifteen years and you know, every time, and I
Speaker 3: would always go back to see Joe when he would
Speaker 3: come back, and it would not be often when he
Speaker 3: would come back to little mononga Hella, you know, a
Speaker 3: little Steell Town valley on a riverbanks of you know,
Speaker 3: one those small towns in Pittsburgh. Back the day, it's
Speaker 3: not really really attractive for Joe coming from San Fernando
Speaker 3: Valley or wherever the hell he lives out there in
Speaker 3: San Francisco, you know, you know today with his wife Jennifer.
Speaker 2: At least she remembers though, right, Oh, you know, you
Speaker 2: never forget where you're from. Man, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I remember my dad bringing him back one
Speaker 1: time and we.
Speaker 3: Became really good friends with Eddie de Barlow, and Eddie
Speaker 3: facilitated a lot of this because he would fund the
Speaker 3: trips of Joe to come back. Because Joe's on fly
Speaker 3: commercial right as I'm sure twelve doesn't fly commercial. Sure
Speaker 3: it's you know, back in the day, there wasn't a
Speaker 3: lot of private travel at that time.
Speaker 1: That was a big deal for him. You had to
Speaker 1: know the owner. The owner had to have a plane,
Speaker 1: the owner had to pay for the gas. Get him
Speaker 1: on it. Karmen policy like the barbelow.
Speaker 3: Karmen policy would come back to these banquets we would
Speaker 3: have at the VFW downtown in Monongalla, Pennsylvania. Here's Jo
Speaker 3: and his wife, Jennifer and Joe's family, and he could
Speaker 3: tell Joe's Joe's dealing with it, but he's.
Speaker 1: Sitting on the folding chairs and ain't the ritz plastic cups.
Speaker 3: It ain't the rits man. But that's what made you home.
Speaker 3: You knew that's where it started. That's where it started.
Speaker 3: Joe's dad made him come back, his relatives made him
Speaker 3: come back, and that that was the balls back in
Speaker 3: the day man, And it started the so many guys,
Speaker 3: why that's ste that's Steeler Country he's coming back to too,
Speaker 3: And why is it such a hotbed.
Speaker 1: It's not like that's the only area that country played football.
Speaker 3: There's no lacrosse, there was no soccer, there's no ice skating.
Speaker 3: At the time, there's football. You played football or baseball
Speaker 3: or basketball, and sports were seasonal. And this is the
Speaker 3: biggest thing I learned. And my daughter is seenior throughout
Speaker 3: her three years of high school. She's she's at UMass
Speaker 3: now and we did the au circuit. We got sucked
Speaker 3: into that, and you end up playing year round. What's
Speaker 3: sports basketball falls part? She's three year starter, started as
Speaker 3: a fresher and didn't Eve want to play her senior
Speaker 3: year because the sport burned her out. And there was
Speaker 3: a lot of kids on her team that also played
Speaker 3: club soccer. And I look at these parents racing back
Speaker 3: and forth and it's year round. I'm like, I never
Speaker 3: did this. I remember growing up in Pittsburgh and we
Speaker 3: had we had Christmas break. You get out Christmas in
Speaker 3: your back January second. There's no freaking February stupid ass
Speaker 3: vacation where you gotta pay five grand to fly your
Speaker 3: family to Disney World.
Speaker 1: There was no April break. You had Easter.
Speaker 3: You were off Good Friday and you had off maybe
Speaker 3: Easter Monday, depending on whether we're Catholic or or you know,
Speaker 3: I'm rushing Orthodox. And we had a lot of those
Speaker 3: our honkeys back in Pittsburgh. We like to call them
Speaker 3: Eastern Europeans. So Friday through Monday of Easter week was big.
Speaker 3: Those were our vacations because when Friday, Memorial Day weekend
Speaker 3: hits a half day of school and our asses were
Speaker 3: running down the street to go to Jake's Pizza down
Speaker 3: to Belverne AND's a little pizza shop, playing arcade games.
Speaker 3: There was Galacta, there was a what was that centipede?
Speaker 3: Was the big game Space Invaders? Space Invaders And that
Speaker 3: was the beginning of summer. And we had off from
Speaker 3: that day until we reported around what for Camp in
Speaker 3: middle of August, and we had real summers.
Speaker 1: My kids today don't have summers. Our kids go till
Speaker 1: the end of June.
Speaker 3: And if you play sports, playing freaking baseball, traveling to
Speaker 3: Long Island in July, your Fourth of July weekends are
Speaker 3: rum I.
Speaker 1: Was spending, you know, fourth of July weeks in the middle.
Speaker 3: Of Pennsylvania at this massive complex getting run out of
Speaker 3: gyms with her forty to four to four.
Speaker 1: I've sponsored teams. Hey, coach, we haven't fun yet.
Speaker 3: You guys have a good time because I'm missing kak
Speaker 3: Cod right now. For anybody listening to this, you get
Speaker 3: kids in it. You know, let your kids enjoy life.
Speaker 3: Enjoyed life with your kids. They grow up fast and
Speaker 3: and boom they're gone.
Speaker 1: I mean, you got to have a summer, you know what.
Speaker 1: I mean you know what I've done.
Speaker 4: Oh, my son played AAU baseball club baseball only at fifteen,
Speaker 4: and then my daughter plays club lacrosse because she begged to.
Speaker 1: That's different.
Speaker 4: Once did we push you to that? Like, it's all
Speaker 4: about what she wants and I want them playing multiple sports.
Speaker 4: That's good, that's good. You know, I've talked to you.
Speaker 4: I've talked to Christian about this.
Speaker 3: I've talked to brew Teddy Bruski who you know, when
Speaker 3: you have it's coming up in their ninth grade, tenth grade, eleventh,
Speaker 3: twelfth grade kids, you want to be around and you
Speaker 3: want to help coach. Those guys are coaching down there
Speaker 3: at Feeing and the like.
Speaker 1: It's different when we played.
Speaker 3: Man, these kids nowadays, you know, you don't hit, You
Speaker 3: gotta baby them, you gotta hold their hands.
Speaker 1: You get into clicks now, you know.
Speaker 3: And man, if you get outside that circle and you
Speaker 3: didn't play in the spring, but the eight other.
Speaker 1: Girls did or the eight other boys did, You're done.
Speaker 1: You missed it.
Speaker 3: Man, you missed that time and they sort of phaded
Speaker 3: your good coaches will kill trip you into getting their
Speaker 3: ass down to this this training facility in the summer
Speaker 3: because we did a two day session.
Speaker 1: We started five start at six am. Man.
Speaker 3: I played football, I played basketball, and I played baseball.
Speaker 3: I actually end up running track my junior senior year
Speaker 3: because I threw the javelin because my dad didn't want
Speaker 3: to be playing baseball because everything was side arm with me.
Speaker 1: Everything was over the top.
Speaker 3: Now with football when you're six five, you know, but
Speaker 3: nobody wants to unless you're Chuck Long from the University
Speaker 3: Iowa throwing side arm or Jim Everett.
Speaker 1: Back in the day, that's what there were fun days
Speaker 1: get recruited by those schools, all right, So let's talk
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 2: So, as a kid who's growing up in western Pennsylvania
Speaker 2: and is the ball boy for Joe Montana, I gotta
Speaker 2: believe did you was Notre Dame?
Speaker 1: Did you want to go to Notre Dame? Why? Maryland?
Speaker 1: I should not want to go to Notre Dame? Okay?
Speaker 3: So I love Okay, So just kidding. You gonna love
Speaker 3: this story. So my dad, my dad was the idea
Speaker 3: at the time.
Speaker 1: It was not my coach.
Speaker 3: And Jerry Sandusky, the infamous Jerry Sandusky from penn State,
Speaker 3: was the first guy to ever recruit me, coming on
Speaker 3: in ninth grade, Jerry would make a visit to my
Speaker 3: house once a month to had we had a bumper
Speaker 3: pool table, not a big poll table. We had little
Speaker 3: house couldn't fit a big pool table, so that next
Speaker 3: best thing we had bumper pool. Jerry would come into
Speaker 3: my house and just shoot stick with me in the basement.
Speaker 3: And man, I was going to freaking Penn State from
Speaker 3: ninth grade on, and I ended up having you know,
Speaker 3: meat balls a Joe Paturno's house. Could still see the
Speaker 3: red and white check table on a folded table in
Speaker 3: his nondescript house in the middle of Penn State's campus,
Speaker 3: you know, one hundred thousand people. And I went to
Speaker 3: every camp from ninth right on, and then my senior year,
Speaker 3: they come to me and tell me they're gonna take
Speaker 3: Tom Bill out of Tom's River, New Jersey, and they're
Speaker 3: gonna be the quarterback.
Speaker 1: We're only gonna have one scholarship quarterback.
Speaker 3: But you're six five, two thirty. We want you to
Speaker 3: play linebacker. We're gonna make you a linebacker here. Jim
Speaker 3: Kelly went through that, Jeff Hosteling with it. They all
Speaker 3: got recruited there to play linebacker, even though over quarterbacks
Speaker 3: coming out of Western ba Jesus, I was the I
Speaker 3: was the number two kick coming out of the state
Speaker 3: of Pennsylvania. It was me and Major Harris Old West
Speaker 3: Virginia courter. We're all getting recruited at the same time.
Speaker 3: Eddie McCaffrey was in the center of the state. We
Speaker 3: all played a big thirty three All Star game. Eddie
Speaker 3: was my receiver. Shoan Browski Michael Owens were my tailbacks.
Speaker 3: They both went both went to Syracuse. All our lineman
Speaker 3: went the Nebraska and we're playing in a state of Texas,
Speaker 3: you know, in this big, big thirty three game, thirty
Speaker 3: five thousand people for a high school game and Hershey
Speaker 3: Park and you smell the chocolate. It's just discussing at
Speaker 3: ninety five degrees.
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Speaker 3: But the whole recruiting process was awesome. Like I love Jerry.
Speaker 3: I wanted to go to penn State. They ended up
Speaker 3: screwing me over. Then I fell in love with Pitt
Speaker 3: and Foge Phasio.
Speaker 1: Oh wow. He ended up getting cammed.
Speaker 3: Mike, godf you got hired, so I got Cotton a
Speaker 3: transitional phase. Their Pitt still offered me, but Hirad Schnellenberger
Speaker 3: won a national championship with Jim Kelly at the time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: ended up going to Louisville, yep, and try to resurrect
Speaker 3: that program.
Speaker 1: They recruited me hard. My dad wanted me to go
Speaker 1: to Louisville.
Speaker 3: Like they're sending private jets to get you there, and
Speaker 3: you know, you land and the bands waiting for you
Speaker 3: on the tarmac. You got shown around that town real well.
Speaker 3: Duke recruited me very hard. They were one and ten
Speaker 3: number two kick coming out of State of Pennsylvania's not
Speaker 3: going to Duke mom. Mom wanted to be going to Duke.
Speaker 3: Dad would be go Louisville, You're gonna start as from Mom.
Speaker 1: Wanted to be going to Duke. She cried when I
Speaker 1: told Duke no.
Speaker 3: Steve Spurrier was a Duke as an assistant at the
Speaker 3: Steve Sloan was the head coach, so West Virginia recruited
Speaker 3: me hard. I ended up going there on my official visit.
Speaker 3: I fell in love with Maryland because my uncle Chuck,
Speaker 3: my dad's brother, lived in Ellicott City, Maryland, which was
Speaker 3: twenty minutes from the Maryland campus. And my uncle Chuck
Speaker 3: was the lone undefeated quarterback on the Delaware Bluehns teams
Speaker 3: for Tubby Raymond back in the day. But Kennedy got killed.
Speaker 1: They ended up canceling the season after Kennedy ended up
Speaker 1: getting killed. They didn't playny games after that.
Speaker 3: During the assassination of the president, And just like my
Speaker 3: uncle would drive every Friday night he worked at Ellicott
Speaker 3: still down in Maryland, would drive up on Friday nights
Speaker 3: to see me playing Friday night and turn my on
Speaker 3: a dry back.
Speaker 1: He had a mountain He had two Mountain dews that
Speaker 1: he would drink. And that's the highest.
Speaker 3: You know, caffeine, Baby, in this business, what gives you
Speaker 3: the most caffeine? You didn't have You didn't have rock,
Speaker 3: you know, red red Bull, none of that stuff existed.
Speaker 3: So he had to find the caffeine. My dude gave
Speaker 3: that zing to him. So I felt loyal to him
Speaker 3: and plus Saint almost fared. The movie came out, uh
Speaker 3: the soundtrack, I fell love, I loved rob Low. When
Speaker 3: I got recruited by Maryland, they took my ass straight
Speaker 3: to Georgetown because the drinking age was eighteen. We loaded
Speaker 3: up ten kids in a car and the guy showed
Speaker 3: me around Maryland, showed me the best time ever.
Speaker 1: He made me funnel a picture of Long Island iced tea.
Speaker 3: What as an eighteen year old kid, I had freaking
Speaker 3: alcoholic poisoning and then a passed out face down outside
Speaker 3: the chapel where if you look, Maryland's campus is Long
Speaker 3: Sprung And they found me there, got me back to
Speaker 3: the end because I was supposed to have breakfast with
Speaker 3: Bobby Ross.
Speaker 1: The next morning. Who's a hard ass? Who made you
Speaker 1: do that? Funnel? My? Oh god? He was a defensive
Speaker 1: back of forget his name at the time, your host.
Speaker 3: And it was great And I'm like, this tastes so good.
Speaker 3: It tastes just like iced tea and lemonade. And I'll
Speaker 3: never forget. And I've been there multiple times, trust me.
Speaker 3: When the lights starts spinning, never room starts spinning, and
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you feil coming up man, and
Speaker 3: you got one hand on the bar and the floor.
Speaker 3: I hacked all over the bar and it was the vu.
Speaker 3: The bar was the voo in Maryland. And there was
Speaker 3: so much liquid on the floor. I remember the pictures
Speaker 3: laying on the floor to take the pictures up, rit
Speaker 3: them off, and it was pictured beer.
Speaker 1: They played Rock and Robin, you know by the Jackson five.
Speaker 1: I'm like, place is freaking great.
Speaker 3: I committed it right there, I'm coming here. I went
Speaker 3: to West Virginia. They took me freaking bowling. It's the
Speaker 3: worst trip I ever had. They had the best facilities
Speaker 3: out of anybody at the time. Don Neeland was in
Speaker 3: West Virginia. So I committed to Maryland and next thing
Speaker 3: you know, here comes Jimmy Johnson from Miami. Jimmy gets
Speaker 3: ahead gig at Miami. He and Gary Stevens start recruiting me.
Speaker 3: I committed, every coach's you come on down, take a
Speaker 3: trip down to Miami. I said, all right, I'm already committed.
Speaker 3: We still want you to down. But set up Arriving
Speaker 3: in Miami, Jimmy had his own fishing boat that me
Speaker 3: and Gary Stevens, who ended up being his coordinator down Dallas,
Speaker 3: wants that all these guys. Tony Wise was there at
Speaker 3: the time, his offensive line coach. All these guys fall
Speaker 3: him to Dallas, falling back to Miami. I want Jamie's
Speaker 3: fifty four foot like Bertram. It's just me and him
Speaker 3: on a fishing boat. There's about thirty other recruits on
Speaker 3: the other boat. We went out of Monty trainers at
Speaker 3: the Bay and this is where we all came together,
Speaker 3: you know, was recruits going down to Miami and I'm
Speaker 3: like Jesus, this is one full court press here. So
Speaker 3: at the time they win the national championship in eighty six,
Speaker 3: it was Tessa Verdi that hosted me on my recruiting trip.
Speaker 3: So I remember Jerome Brown, all those guys were there.
Speaker 3: We ended up breaking into the school pool, the swimming pool,
Speaker 3: the Olympic swimming pool, and Betty Blades and those guys
Speaker 3: at the time took me up to the high dive,
Speaker 3: threw me off the fricking high dive, and you talk
Speaker 3: about hitting water at about three o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 3: get hard as you can. Who guy that we went
Speaker 3: to an after party at his house. It was that
Speaker 3: Evan Shapiro guy at the time, it was connected to
Speaker 3: all these Miami guys. Big Booster had a house party there.
Speaker 3: I just remember never seeing an edge of the campus
Speaker 3: to where, okay, they're separation. Here, here's the Miami campus.
Speaker 3: You never felt like you were on a campus at
Speaker 3: the you now hell football program, no doubt about that.
Speaker 3: Scared to hell to me, almost changed my commitment to
Speaker 3: go to Miami. But I'm like, man, it's before a
Speaker 3: playing ride. My family could drive see me to play
Speaker 3: in Maryland. Fell in love with Maryland's campus to this day,
Speaker 3: you know how.
Speaker 1: I talk about it. Man, Absolutely, that was It was
Speaker 1: so cool to go back there. Last year. We stayed
Speaker 1: at the new hotel.
Speaker 3: On campus, and I remember walking around with Jim Nolan,
Speaker 3: who was works here with the Patriots, And there was
Speaker 3: nothing better than walking around and seeing the new stuff
Speaker 3: and but seeing the old stuff, you know, touching.
Speaker 1: The the.
Speaker 3: The head of the turtle testudo there at the library
Speaker 3: which I never went into, which which was haunted. So
Speaker 3: I told my mother it was the library five years
Speaker 3: five Summer's Pride. Never went into the Maryland Library. I
Speaker 3: did go in once because you had a date. No,
Speaker 3: they had an archive of movies and this is you know,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna pay for block bluster. I remember scraping
Speaker 3: money together to buy pizza out of Dominoes in my
Speaker 3: roommates because you you couldn't get paid as athletes at
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 1: But I remember going in there to watch one Fluid
Speaker 1: contests on his hard drive because they had this no
Speaker 1: movie section. That's my favorite movie of all time. That's funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's funny. I already came together. And then also
Speaker 1: what Dick mciers recruited me really hard to go to Syracuse.
Speaker 2: That's interesting and that trip that comes a little bit
Speaker 2: full circle. But I don't know if Patriot fans realized
Speaker 2: at the time that Miami. And I don't want to
Speaker 2: overstate this a little bit, but that's a little bit
Speaker 2: like quarterback you at the time, right, I mean you're
Speaker 2: a good guys.
Speaker 1: Donald was No, that's Maryland, Maryland. You said Miami. Sorry,
Speaker 1: but I mean even Miami at the time, and you
Speaker 1: get recruited there.
Speaker 3: So it was Kelly cozartose guys, I'm Creig Harrison and
Speaker 3: Craig Erickson end up going to Miami doesn't really get recognized.
Speaker 3: It's true that was one of the coolest things watching
Speaker 3: film with Bobby Ross and eventually my quarterback coach.
Speaker 1: He's not with us anymore.
Speaker 3: Joe Kreevak Uh Kreevak was a quarterback coach. He ended
Speaker 3: up taking over when Ross bolted and shoot, I forgot shit.
Speaker 3: I forgot to talk about Lenny Bias. So during my
Speaker 3: recruiting process in Maryland, I went to ACC games there
Speaker 3: to see Duke.
Speaker 1: Play Carolina, and so I saw Lenny Bias play in college.
Speaker 3: My recruiting trips at Louisville, the Pearl Washington games, Chris Washburn,
Speaker 3: Ency State, Syracuse, all those I saw Syracuse Louisville games.
Speaker 1: At Louisville, I.
Speaker 3: Was at Cameron Indoor watching Carolina and Duke on a
Speaker 3: recruiting trip. And when I went in and started to
Speaker 3: work out that summer, I saw Lenny play in the
Speaker 3: quad courtyard outside where there's just like a thousand kids
Speaker 3: around the court watching him come down. He had to
Speaker 3: spread dunk Baseline, spread dunk, Tomauck dunk, or Lenny would
Speaker 3: spread his legs and thunder dunk it.
Speaker 1: And then you get the news a week later the
Speaker 1: tragedy had happened. And right after this drafted him.
Speaker 3: It sent our entire program in a tank at Maryland
Speaker 3: because Lefty Drizzelle ended up getting fired. After that, well
Speaker 3: we had to leave, Bobby said, I doubled down. I'm
Speaker 3: not going anywhere. Well, they changed our academic standards and
Speaker 3: it was harder to get into duke in in Virginia
Speaker 3: and in Ivy League schools than it was mary Maryland.
Speaker 3: It ended up harder to get into which totally transitioned
Speaker 3: to different type of recruit we could recruit at the time.
Speaker 3: Would changed everything. But getting back to our original question
Speaker 3: here about the quarterback. You you know, we watched film
Speaker 3: on Boomer We watched the Frank Wright game on the
Speaker 3: twenty eight point come back against Miamia. Was it thirty
Speaker 3: one thirty five to three thirty five three? So it
Speaker 3: was thirty That's right, it was thirty two points. It
Speaker 3: was the twenty eight points he was down in Buffalo
Speaker 3: when he was with the Bills. Oh, then that's what
Speaker 3: I'm talking about. That Stan Gelball was there next. Then
Speaker 3: it was Neil Ol'donald than me. And one of the
Speaker 3: coolest things my second year when I ended up getting
Speaker 3: started when Hotson and Milan were hurt Neil o'donnald was
Speaker 3: starting for Pittsburgh, Boomer was starting for Cincinnati, Stan Gelbol
Speaker 3: was starting for Seattle, Frank Reich was starting for Buffalo.
Speaker 3: All five of us started, and Miami can't say that,
Speaker 3: but we could say that that's something we had over Miami,
Speaker 3: which is known as quarterback. Ye you say quarterback, everybody
Speaker 3: thinks Miami, and that's already said Miami. But all five
Speaker 3: of us started on one Sunday, and that was pretty
Speaker 3: cool for our coach.
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. Do you remember your
Speaker 1: first start at Maryland?
Speaker 3: Oh god, yeah, yeah, uh, crap in my pants was
Speaker 3: Virginia Tech. Ended up throwing for like three and twelve yards.
Speaker 3: I think I had twenty eight completions, set the school
Speaker 3: record at the time. It's back in nineteen ninety one,
Speaker 3: set the school record. Frank Wycheck was a true freshman.
Speaker 3: So we invented sort of the h back offense. So
Speaker 3: everybody's running that split back offense that Bobby Ross recruiter's on.
Speaker 1: So it's sort of like the Dallas offense that who's that.
Speaker 1: Who's a coach of Dallas nor Turner.
Speaker 3: So it was a split back split right scat right
Speaker 3: that we had with Ernie's Mpzi here and you know
Speaker 3: Cory and those guys, we ran the same stuff. So
Speaker 3: it was sort of turnkey when I got here with
Speaker 3: the pros. But my first started Maryland throw for three
Speaker 3: to twelve. Next week we go to West Virginia, throw
Speaker 3: for three to fifty. That game, we win the game
Speaker 3: on comeback game, right, both of them, both of were
Speaker 3: comeback games. And I checked the slant route to this guy,
Speaker 3: Geene Thomas, he was a junior college cansfer, and hit
Speaker 3: him for a sixty five yarder, you know, against Virginia
Speaker 3: Tech hit him for like a seventy yarder. And last
Speaker 3: played the game against West Virginia. At West Virginia. We
Speaker 3: all going, we're jumping on state in West Virginia. We're
Speaker 3: getting your bear bottles of their buses. On the way
Speaker 3: out of there, we're flipping off. You know, all those
Speaker 3: Hicks are in West Virginia. And week three I was
Speaker 3: top five in the Heisman race just based on two
Speaker 3: starts like that, that's how quick. And then we played
Speaker 3: at Michigan the next week and my first pass the
Speaker 3: game was pick six, So the Heisman RACI was over
Speaker 3: at that time.
Speaker 1: And then he got sacked ten times against Georgia Tech.
Speaker 1: Think about this.
Speaker 3: So at West Virginia, Virginia Tech, at Michigan, at Penn State, Oh,
Speaker 3: in Miami, we're out of conference games now they do
Speaker 3: these freaking cupcakes.
Speaker 1: That's a schedule pathetic. What these schools doing now to
Speaker 1: Patrick Skindle, so so did you? But I got me
Speaker 1: ready for the next level.
Speaker 2: When you're coming out of school, where did you Where
Speaker 2: did they tell you you were going to go? Where
Speaker 2: did you think you were going to? Not team wise, first,
Speaker 2: what round did you think you were going to?
Speaker 1: I thought it was potentially.
Speaker 3: I was climbing up the draft charts. Best thing I
Speaker 3: did I went to the combine early, got invited to
Speaker 3: the combine. Now it was only like a year and
Speaker 3: a half starter in Maryland and okay, so I'm a
Speaker 3: big kid, six five and a major two twenty eight kids,
Speaker 3: got a rock arm command. We went to throw defensive
Speaker 3: backs for five days prior to the quarterback workouts. So
Speaker 3: I did that and I got a lot of exposure.
Speaker 3: So at that time, I exploded up the draft board
Speaker 3: charts and it was Tom Maronovic took a flyer on
Speaker 3: first round graders did Daan MacGuire went to Seattle.
Speaker 1: Big kid right, and here comes here comes in Atlanta
Speaker 1: and Jerry Jerry, Jerry Glenn was interested in me. George
Speaker 1: Young was interested in me.
Speaker 3: With the Giants, I got a lot of run out
Speaker 3: of the Redskins, Bobby Bethard and then Joe Mendes here,
Speaker 3: So there was a lot of a exposure there and
Speaker 3: I could have went anywhere from second round to seventh round.
Speaker 3: And at that time it was twelve twelve round draft,
Speaker 3: two days. It was a long process, long first day.
Speaker 3: I ended up going that first pick in the fourth round,
Speaker 3: eighty fourth that first day, Yeah, eighty fourth, which I
Speaker 3: held out because great agent Ralph Sindritch your technically third round,
Speaker 3: there was an issue there, so I held out for
Speaker 3: the third round money, which he ended up.
Speaker 1: Getting, which was great. That's great. Yeah, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought I was gonna go second round.
Speaker 3: They end up taking a far so Farve ended up
Speaker 3: going there, and then Brownie Nagel went to the freaking Jets.
Speaker 1: Yeah yep, and and then I went. So I was
Speaker 1: the fifth guy taking that year. So what'd you know
Speaker 1: about the Patriots?
Speaker 4: Did you know anything newly weren't very good one in
Speaker 4: fifteen and nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 3: I knew Steve Grogan. And when you play the position,
Speaker 3: you sort of watch everybody to watch the quarterbacks. I'll
Speaker 3: never forget this guy playing with a neck roe. I'm like,
Speaker 3: who the hell is this guy playing with a neck roll?
Speaker 3: And then you hear about you're playing on concrete, you know,
Speaker 3: basically appear with that old turf.
Speaker 1: And but I loved the uniform at.
Speaker 3: That old red and white Patriot throwback logo, which I
Speaker 3: think they should get back to for a game.
Speaker 1: No question. That sucks that you can't do that my
Speaker 1: helmet color.
Speaker 4: But I don't understand why you can't because they swear
Speaker 4: your silver helmet.
Speaker 1: It just wouldn't be the same. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: it looked like.
Speaker 3: It would look like what's that movie there is the
Speaker 3: Replacements that has a silver helmet. Yes, with the red
Speaker 3: jerseys with Falcon quarterbacks. So it was Falcon my quarterback.
Speaker 1: So so what week was it? What week was it in?
Speaker 1: So you didn't play in ninety one, right, right, so
Speaker 1: ninety two? What week was it at Indy that you
Speaker 1: started that game?
Speaker 2: They were nine nine, okay, and so and your dad
Speaker 2: went to the game, because I remember watching went to
Speaker 2: the game with my high school coach.
Speaker 1: Shot to your dad in the stands, I.
Speaker 3: Got seats on a fifty yard line. I said, shit,
Speaker 3: you're gonna play one game, you do this. And I
Speaker 3: remember being on the team plane with a guy by
Speaker 3: the name of Billy Fairweather. And you know Billy in
Speaker 3: the business. He was working with Frank Malcot and those guys.
Speaker 3: I think it was Channel fifty six at the time,
Speaker 3: the greatest bar. Yeah, he's he's part of the part
Speaker 3: owner down there Wakefields. So remember Saturday night at the
Speaker 3: school play and they had the TV cameras on there,
Speaker 3: and this back in the day where you could go
Speaker 3: up and talk to these guys. Now they keep everybody
Speaker 3: squestion to apart from everybody that said, Billy, get them
Speaker 3: fucking cameras, right, I said, because I'm a winn this game,
Speaker 3: Sorry for swiering. We're gonna get off the plane and
Speaker 3: we're going straight to Clarks down a Fanuel Hall. And
Speaker 3: this was like one of my favorite bars at the time.
Speaker 1: You know. It was a little bar right at the
Speaker 1: right at the end of Fanuel Hall because you get
Speaker 1: pizza right outside Saws and sandwiches, and we end up
Speaker 1: playing that son of a bitch up there. Man.
Speaker 3: Ben Coach catches my first touchdown that happened early, which
Speaker 3: is great, which got me going.
Speaker 1: I got confidence. But Irving Friar, man of all people,
Speaker 1: is really good to me. I got the good Irving.
Speaker 3: I didn't know the bad Irving at the beginning of
Speaker 3: his career and some of the issues he had, But
Speaker 3: I got a I got a guy busted his ass
Speaker 3: at the end of his career here and he went
Speaker 3: on to play well for Miami, was well for well
Speaker 3: for Flip Philly Redskins, and he said, you just hanging
Speaker 3: at men. Heat talked me through that game so much
Speaker 3: because I you know your third guy, Man, you're thrown
Speaker 3: in the mix. You really don't know what you're doing.
Speaker 3: And I remember at the end of the first half,
Speaker 3: we had a little bit of time left, and it's
Speaker 3: really one of the old times I really could recoverage
Speaker 3: really well and freaking safety split and I had Greg
Speaker 3: mcbirchie on an inside slot and he's running a skinny
Speaker 3: and two guys are converging on me, and I remember
Speaker 3: just closing my eyes and throwing a strike right up
Speaker 3: the middle of the field because both safety split and
Speaker 3: I ended up on my back and my head hits
Speaker 3: the head hits the turf. At the time, it's the
Speaker 3: old RCAA Dome in Indy and this is that. That
Speaker 3: was a Jeff George game where he came out and
Speaker 3: he's flipping everybody off, and he asked him, why are
Speaker 3: you giving a finger to the crowd and the introductions.
Speaker 1: He said, because I'm good and I'm good looking. That
Speaker 1: was the end of Jeff George. Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 3: I ended up playing against him when he was at
Speaker 3: Atlanta later. You know, well during a par sales game.
Speaker 3: But and I hit mcmurtury for a touchdown air. I
Speaker 3: remember turning looking for no flags. There was no flags.
Speaker 3: I took my helmet off and about it. The second
Speaker 3: at the fifty yard line, Fritz Marles picks me up.
Speaker 3: We run in the locker room and shit. We end
Speaker 3: up winning that game on Charlie Bouma kicking overtime because
Speaker 3: I hit John von on a bunch of checkdownts.
Speaker 1: I knew at the end of that game, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to force the ball to every one of the ball.
Speaker 3: He's like, I want the game winn I want the
Speaker 3: game winner, like nope, checkdown, checked out, John Von John Vugh,
Speaker 3: John Vond, benk coach John Vaughan, and it boom.
Speaker 1: Charlie Bouma kicked it through. So twenty of twenty nine
Speaker 1: to sixty one and two touches. But Brian is he
Speaker 1: player of the week. What does everybody remember about that game?
Speaker 1: Six Shooters? How did you come up with that?
Speaker 2: So the six Shooters And for you guys listening on
Speaker 2: this on the podcast, look it up on YouTube go
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two. Yeah, Patrick Colts over time and just
Speaker 2: put in zo Lac and watch Zoe Lac with the
Speaker 2: six shooter.
Speaker 1: I tell everybody this now too.
Speaker 3: And nothing is thought out with everything that I do,
Speaker 3: as you know, and you watch me if you watch
Speaker 3: me on our simulcast on radio, or you see me
Speaker 3: on All Access, or you'll watch me on something.
Speaker 1: Scripted some of the boothcams on ninety five we're calling
Speaker 1: the games. Nothing is scripted with me. It's it's everything's
Speaker 1: off the by the way I can attest it. I
Speaker 1: sorted on a script and he's never stuck to it.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, we do this at the Hall
Speaker 3: of fame stuff like here's your scraps, me real rigid,
Speaker 3: Let's bring this guy, Let's bring it man, let's go.
Speaker 1: Teddy gets your ass up here, let's go.
Speaker 3: So it's a I like to I like to make
Speaker 3: it like we're doing this, like we're like we could
Speaker 3: be sitting around shooting ship, having a beer, having some
Speaker 3: chicken wings, you know, eating some crab legs, having the
Speaker 3: son out, listen to Kenny Chesney or you know.
Speaker 1: This is what sports should be, right. It shouldn't be rigid.
Speaker 1: It's it's just guys sitting around having a good time.
Speaker 3: And I try to do that with the broadcast but
Speaker 3: still give you as much inform information as I can
Speaker 3: and still do the same thing when you're trying to
Speaker 3: be professional weather on TV or radio.
Speaker 1: It's I think there's a ballot delicate balance there. But
Speaker 1: so that just came. That just came to you.
Speaker 3: Just start like I'm going down the field, I'm happy,
Speaker 3: and the guns come out and then I remember, uh,
Speaker 3: the Atlanta Star with parcels. No Scar at the time
Speaker 3: was anturnment cuts. Scar tolerated all that stuff.
Speaker 1: He was good with it. You know, you're like shit,
Speaker 1: guy on the moon it's great. Let him let him go.
Speaker 3: And I remember doing it down in Atlanta when the
Speaker 3: Georgia Dome opened up. Jesus, I cant hit by Chris Dolman.
Speaker 3: I lost skin on both my elbows. That was the
Speaker 3: hardest hit ever. Toda guy came. Scuji Chung was freaking
Speaker 3: puked in a huddle.
Speaker 1: He had the flu that day.
Speaker 3: He missed a slide protection just Colburt missed Ole mean,
Speaker 3: I didn't see him coming because I thought my backside
Speaker 3: was protected.
Speaker 1: And I got lit up. But I hit Vincent Brisbee
Speaker 1: on a slant another one. I checked to it. When
Speaker 1: you hit that slant, you checked to it, you thread
Speaker 1: that needle.
Speaker 3: You're feeling pretty good. So I got down on one
Speaker 3: knee and it's a brand new Georgia.
Speaker 1: Though. Took an arrow out of my backpack.
Speaker 3: Not I didn't have a backpack, but I took the
Speaker 3: arrow out, shot it up in the ceiling and the
Speaker 3: parcels don takes hets off because get fuck you're doing?
Speaker 1: What are you doing?
Speaker 3: I said, I'm the coach to try to try to
Speaker 3: shoot the shoot the arrow through, to take the shoot
Speaker 3: the roof.
Speaker 1: Down up there, you know, because it's all blown up.
Speaker 1: Don't do that shit anymore. Yeah, nice, throw it off.
Speaker 3: And that was the greatest thing about Parcels, the ability
Speaker 3: to scare the hell out of you. But when he
Speaker 3: gave you credit for doing something or gave you a
Speaker 3: pat on the ass, I think most guys want that nowadays.
Speaker 3: For a coach would be hard on him, coach him up.
Speaker 3: But damn, when you make a play, get the guy
Speaker 3: credit for making a play.
Speaker 1: And he was so good at that.
Speaker 4: So can you just tell us what it was like
Speaker 4: before Parcels and then how he changed it?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, obviously we weren't winning games, you know,
Speaker 1: back in the early days.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I felt bad for mat because Mack got
Speaker 3: sick and sort of got caught in that transition. And
Speaker 3: I think when you get used to losing, that was
Speaker 3: the biggest thing Parcels taught us. When I remember being
Speaker 3: out in Arizona, We're getting her ass kicked, and I
Speaker 3: don't know how many games it was in we were
Speaker 3: owing something and he came in and took gatoray core
Speaker 3: and slammed it into the blackboard and broke it.
Speaker 1: And he goes, what are you guys gonna get sick of?
Speaker 1: This shit. He goaes, you want to talk about sick
Speaker 1: of losing? He said, it's infectious.
Speaker 3: He goes, we gotta stop this shit now, and we
Speaker 3: end up coming back winning that game. I think Drew
Speaker 3: he had his knee all banged up, but I mean,
Speaker 3: you looked at the crowds. You could feel the energy
Speaker 3: in Foxboro Stadium like that was a good intimate crowd.
Speaker 3: I's on top of you football type environment. They wanted
Speaker 3: a winner, and when you hired Parcels, you felt you
Speaker 3: had a winner. You change the uniforms, you come in
Speaker 3: and the whole place start. You could see it filling
Speaker 3: up game to game, and all of a sudden, you're
Speaker 3: playing for the soldout crowds.
Speaker 1: This thing's real.
Speaker 3: And the ability of him to bring giants in, whether
Speaker 3: it was Merongeiten or you know, Bob cratch back in
Speaker 3: the day, Will Roberts, David Megantt David Megan. Megan was
Speaker 3: one of my favorite players. I know David's got issues now,
Speaker 3: but that's not for this. But David was a great
Speaker 3: freaking teammate and he taught you how to win. He
Speaker 3: taught you how to work. Parcels brought guys into established culture.
Speaker 3: And you see this with other guys that go to
Speaker 3: places and whether it's the Belichick tree and guys go out,
Speaker 3: you know, you bring guys in. You want that, you know,
Speaker 3: you want to establish what is winning, what made it
Speaker 3: work here? That is going to try to attempt to
Speaker 3: make it work here and circle the wagon.
Speaker 1: Guys he calls them, work ethic, man, work.
Speaker 3: Ethic, and talk to you. Internalize everything. Everything you hear here,
Speaker 3: say here stays here. You know, everybody out there is
Speaker 3: trying to put a drivel weds between you and me,
Speaker 3: meaning media. He was good at dealing with the media.
Speaker 3: He knew how to handle the media. He knew how
Speaker 3: to make us feel like we circle the wagons someone
Speaker 3: use against the world. And I think that's still true today.
Speaker 3: And I think Belichick takes a lot of what he
Speaker 3: learned to partselves, you know, with it.
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