WEBVTT - Pats from the Past, Episode 9: Scott Zolak, Part 1 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.320 Some of what you're about to hear maybe deemed offensive. 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:05.320 Listener discretion is advised. 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:13.520 IM Now for another episode of Pasts from the Past 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:16.680 podcast brought to you by whom At w B Nation 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:19.040 You're one stop shop for all your business needs and 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:22.599 Brian pretty intriguing guests. We have today a guy that 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:26.520 you worked at the same place with I did, somebody 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:29.080 who I work with currently. Today, you want to talk 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:33.240 about the tables being turned former Patriots quarterback and voice 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:35.280 of the New England Patriots on ninety five The Sports 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:37.720 I'm Scott Zlac, So how about me asking you questions? 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:40.479 I think technically, like Bob Soci's the voice of the Patriots, 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:42.120 you gotta go with the plane. 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:42.960 You're the color guy. 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:45.839 I am. I'm the I'm the color voice of the Patriots. 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:48.760 I would and you certainly provide color. I think I'm 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:50.680 the energy guy. I think I'm the you could call 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:51.639 me the Patriots type man. 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:53.880 I think energy Guy's a good way to say it. 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:56.280 How you doing do it? Great? It's good saying you guys. 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:58.480 Of course, a great relationship with you, Matt with all 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:01.040 access and uh he've done over the years. I got 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:05.000 way back with Brian back when I got popped from 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:08.360 the league and you're sitting around and Cobra runs out 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:11.600 when I say, Cobra, your healthcare benefits paying a ton 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:14.400 of money and you know this, we swear it here. 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:14.680 Yeah. 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:18.240 Sure, sort of a shitty job down in Providence, Pops, 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:21.320 open this up. When I say shitty, I'm not talking 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:23.559 about the building. I'm talking about the time slot five thirty. 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:26.560 So I've never done radio before, and they said, we 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:29.400 have this opportunity. There's a five thirty AM slot, five 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:33.000 thirty to nine am, and uh, we'll give you a 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:33.679 decent not. 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.200 A decent salary. It was a shit salary and five 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:39.360 five figures. Uh yeah, that's fine. 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:41.840 Oh yeah, yeah, but mid fives it was. I mean, 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:45.280 I don't want to deal with money, money money there. Yeah, 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:46.480 you worked there, you know what it is. 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:49.520 But it was full benefits. So when you got do 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:51.280 you have kids yet? Oh yeah? 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:54.720 I had, uh one two and we're Brody was just 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:56.960 gonna be Bertie, which she was praying with Brody I 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:58.920 ain't at the time. So yeah, then all came together 0:01:59.000 --> 0:01:59.520 quite nicely. 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:02.800 Wow, from a benefit stamp, what we want to work? 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:03.920 The environment a little different? 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:07.040 Yeah, well, we'll get into the radio stuff, Scott, because 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:08.880 the people who are listening to this probably a lot 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:12.480 of them only know Scott Zolac from being on the radio. 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:15.560 But there's a lot more to Scott Solac that got 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:18.000 him to the radio. And here's another one. You've been 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:21.560 in New England now, Scott since ninety two, so that's 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:24.760 almost thirty years here in the area. But maybe people 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:26.200 don't realize you weren't born in this area. 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:27.120 Where were you born? 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:30.640 Born in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I think I was ten pounds 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.560 thirteen ounces. My mom had me naturally, which credit to 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:36.480 her is for people to know me and see me 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:39.560 on some of the pictures on the Patriots website. My 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:42.240 head is rather large, so for her to push me out, 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:44.959 that's pretty impressive on her part. You're gonna have some 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:49.560 good pregnancy talk here, otomy I mean, for history's sake. 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:53.119 I go up Morestern, Pennsylvania, hot hot bed for athletics. 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:56.639 My dad went to the Nora High School. He was 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:01.320 teammates with Ken Griffey Sr. So Griffy Senor who eventually 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:03.400 played for the Reds. And we all know about Ken 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:04.120 Griffy Jr. 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:06.679 Later in life. Ends up being what Cincinnati Moler. I 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:07.400 think it was a high. 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:10.760 School at the time, and my dad was buddies with 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.960 Griffy Senior played ball in high school. Uh he went 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:18.040 on to coach, ended up coaching Joe Montana in high 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:19.840 school way before Ken. 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:22.519 Griffy Sam Musual was from our home. Oh yeah, wow. 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:24.120 So stand a man, a splendid splinter. 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:26.680 I remember I eventually went to the University of Maryland, 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:31.200 and I remember coming home and any time Montana or 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:34.520 Stan would come back to town. Now we're still milltown. 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:38.160 Both my grandfathers worked in the steel mill. They made 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:40.720 all of our tools at home, the hatchets, the hammers, 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:44.480 sledge hammers. I stood in line for cheese and bread, 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:48.320 Government cheese and bread with both my grandfathers. So sports 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:50.920 was your way out of town there, and we came 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.760 together as families Friday nights. It's it's like the movie 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:58.040 All the Way Moves with Tom Cruz. Tremendous Friday nights 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.520 shut down, you know, and you'd get on those buses 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.880 you wore, you wore your game jerseys the school on Fridays, 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:06.400 and there was nothing better in high school football, man, 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:07.880 until we had to go to All equip and play 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:09.240 Tylass Town. 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:11.800 When they Yeah, they it's basically you know you're playing. 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:14.320 It's called the pit equipping. I'm sure you've done stuff 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:15.000 with ty Yeah. 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:16.240 We like spring. 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:17.880 By the way, he just texted me. I told him 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:19.760 we were doing this. He says, Hello, that's my man. 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:23.160 He's probably opening up what is forty seventh Trampoline Park. 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:28.279 Uh, he's going to vodka. Yeah, one vodka. 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.799 I even heard the voki yet his vaka is better 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:34.359 be better than Matt Lights, Matt Frozen the freezer. 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:37.920 I've heard that ty Law's vodka is exceptional. Same here 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:40.440 from Pittsburgh. So how far away was all equipper from 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.040 your town? Thirty minutes? Okay? Everything. You can put a 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:46.720 dot and draw a thirty minute radius and circle that. 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:52.600 And Joe Namath Montana, Johnny Unitas, Hostetler, Jim Kelly from 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:56.720 East East Brady, PA. We're all from that centralized area there, 0:04:56.800 --> 0:05:00.400 Marino downtown. Of course, you know my later we'll get 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:01.480 to the Marino part of it. That was one of 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:03.480 my one of my favorite years playing pro football was 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:05.080 my last year with Dan Marino in Miami. 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:08.719 It was my idol growing up right so and Montana 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:10.240 went to the same high school you went to. Went 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:11.920 to the same high school. I went to my dad. 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.920 My dad coach Joe. Joe's senior year was nineteen seventy four. 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:18.440 Joe was a better baseball player and basketball player than. 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:19.479 He was a football player. Wow. 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:22.640 And he had this long flowing hair, and his nickname 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.240 was Joe Montana Loo. I still have the high school 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:27.280 chin straft from Joe's last high school football game he 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:27.680 flipped to me. 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:29.120 Flipped it to me because I was a seven year 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:31.320 old water boy at the time. Joe used to kick 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:32.560 off for the high school team. 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.960 And my great stories about being a seven year old 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:39.160 was being around my dad. And you know, I remember 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.960 him cutting tape in film and I talked Coach Belichick 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:43.680 about this all the time too, when we do some 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:45.840 of the interviews, and you know, Bill's clicking on film 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:47.680 and you know, you're dragging stuff and Jimmy Diane a 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:49.960 great job he does here with the video crew. Everything's 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:52.280 digital now. We would literally have to splice it and 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:53.800 cut it with Scott's tape and put it in a 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:54.640 splice machine. 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:55.800 But do that with my dad. 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:57.680 I would run on the field and get the kicking 0:05:57.720 --> 0:05:59.279 ta after Joe kicked off every game. 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:02.640 And I'll never forget that. I could still remember this 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:04.080 old tunnel that they walked up. 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:08.320 It's the old Legion field Legion film in uh in DeNora, Pennsylvania, 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:11.000 and it was the middle school because you would dress 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:12.560 in this little locker room and you have to walk 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:14.880 up this cement tunnel. You can still hear the click 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:16.920 clack into those metal back in the day were middle 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:20.120 cleat sure, those screwins and if they were out, they 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:21.880 were never gonna wear out because they were metal. You know, 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:25.320 nowadays these kids got these multi cleats now and millennials 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:25.560 like you. 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.279 So when you got older, Scott, do you remember when 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:32.160 was the first time that your path crossed with Joe? 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:33.840 And what was that like? 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:38.800 Great question of course. Uh, my dad would follow Joe 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:40.480 everywhere when all the Super Bowls. He would go with 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:43.240 my old high school coach and they would find a way, 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:46.279 you know, on an athletic director or former coach's salary, 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:49.039 a teacher's salary with the head coach to scrap up 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:51.239 the money to get in touch with one of Joe's 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:53.640 family members to where they could get two tickets and 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:55.800 you know, hey, we get the experience of going to 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:57.360 the Super Bowl. So that's a great thing about being 0:06:57.360 --> 0:07:01.440 around the Patriots, and the tough is finding and getting 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:03.880 that hotel for the four at a price that you 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:05.960 could manage. You know, you're trying to stay to La 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:08.520 king through a motel six and get four guys to 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:11.320 sleep in one room and shoot, okay, it's in New Orleans. 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:13.600 Should we drive from Pittsburgh? When should we leave? We Wednesday, 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:16.000 We'll get there Thursday. You know, Joe's family's got the 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.440 party that we're all invited. But I remember my dad 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:23.000 doing all that. But when Joe was with Kansas City 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:26.440 and uh he was shut down because he had an injury, 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:28.680 came here and we were playing it. But I remember, 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:30.800 you know, being on the bus and Joe would bring 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:32.600 me on the bus because he wasn't playing. He was 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:34.800 in street clothes at the time and would sit around 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:37.040 after the game. And it's the old Foxboro Stadium here 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:39.680 where the old visitors locker room. Remember where Will mcdonnaugh 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.720 gott in that infamous fight. Yeah, right down in that lot, 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:43.320 down in that. 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:46.920 And the buses. 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:48.760 They would put the buses at the top of that tunnel, 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:51.520 and uh, I just remember all people being trying around 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:53.480 just get a peek at Joe, and it's sort of 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:56.520 stuff we see now with Tom. And that's the coolest 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:59.320 thing about being around the team now covering it, because 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:00.840 I see a lot of stuff with Tom that I 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:03.600 saw with Joe back in the days, and so it 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:04.760 was kind of second natural to me. 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:06.600 And I'd sit there and chuckle and look at these. 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:09.080 People either just trying to get a get a snapshot 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:11.280 or a high from Brady or Wave. And I just 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.480 remember sitting on a on one of those buses with 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:15.240 Joe and he has feet up and they had like 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:16.560 a keg of beer in the back of the bus. 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.280 Time. This is thanks a lot, been lot, and this 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:21.400 is prod of Hill probably nine to eleven. We were 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:22.280 able to do some things. 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:24.960 And okay, yeah, we'll get to some of those stories too, 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:26.600 some of those away trips on the West Coast trips 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:27.200 and how we got through. 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:30.000 But so you're on the bus with Joe as and 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:33.040 and he what he remembers for you, Steve Bono, you 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:35.760 know it's a seven year old ball boy and your 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:36.640 dad doing him. 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:38.079 My dad was there and he brought my dad on it. 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:40.600 And you you haven't seen him, and you know, probably 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:42.599 ten fifteen years and you know, every time, and I 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:44.480 would always go back to see Joe when he would 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:46.000 come back, and it would not be often when he 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.000 would come back to little mononga Hella, you know, a 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.439 little Steell Town valley on a riverbanks of you know, 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.000 one those small towns in Pittsburgh. Back the day, it's 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:56.880 not really really attractive for Joe coming from San Fernando 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:58.839 Valley or wherever the hell he lives out there in 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:02.400 San Francisco, you know, you know today with his wife Jennifer. 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:03.920 At least she remembers though, right, Oh, you know, you 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.160 never forget where you're from. Man, that's awesome. 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.160 Yeah. And I remember my dad bringing him back one 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:09.080 time and we. 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:12.560 Became really good friends with Eddie de Barlow, and Eddie 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:14.599 facilitated a lot of this because he would fund the 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:16.360 trips of Joe to come back. Because Joe's on fly 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:19.319 commercial right as I'm sure twelve doesn't fly commercial. Sure 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:21.240 it's you know, back in the day, there wasn't a 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:22.520 lot of private travel at that time. 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:24.120 That was a big deal for him. You had to 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:26.000 know the owner. The owner had to have a plane, 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:28.200 the owner had to pay for the gas. Get him 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:31.240 on it. Karmen policy like the barbelow. 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:34.360 Karmen policy would come back to these banquets we would 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:39.320 have at the VFW downtown in Monongalla, Pennsylvania. Here's Jo 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:42.040 and his wife, Jennifer and Joe's family, and he could 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:45.400 tell Joe's Joe's dealing with it, but he's. 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:48.400 Sitting on the folding chairs and ain't the ritz plastic cups. 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:51.520 It ain't the rits man. But that's what made you home. 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:54.000 You knew that's where it started. That's where it started. 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:55.920 Joe's dad made him come back, his relatives made him 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.040 come back, and that that was the balls back in 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:01.040 the day man, And it started the so many guys, 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:04.200 why that's ste that's Steeler Country he's coming back to too, 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:05.679 And why is it such a hotbed. 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.320 It's not like that's the only area that country played football. 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.440 There's no lacrosse, there was no soccer, there's no ice skating. 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:14.480 At the time, there's football. You played football or baseball 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:18.319 or basketball, and sports were seasonal. And this is the 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:21.520 biggest thing I learned. And my daughter is seenior throughout 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.280 her three years of high school. She's she's at UMass 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:27.200 now and we did the au circuit. We got sucked 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:29.920 into that, and you end up playing year round. What's 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:33.920 sports basketball falls part? She's three year starter, started as 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:35.320 a fresher and didn't Eve want to play her senior 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:38.760 year because the sport burned her out. And there was 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:41.440 a lot of kids on her team that also played 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:43.960 club soccer. And I look at these parents racing back 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:46.240 and forth and it's year round. I'm like, I never 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:51.240 did this. I remember growing up in Pittsburgh and we 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:54.599 had we had Christmas break. You get out Christmas in 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:58.679 your back January second. There's no freaking February stupid ass 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:01.280 vacation where you gotta pay five grand to fly your 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:02.200 family to Disney World. 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:04.240 There was no April break. You had Easter. 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:07.000 You were off Good Friday and you had off maybe 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:10.719 Easter Monday, depending on whether we're Catholic or or you know, 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:12.679 I'm rushing Orthodox. And we had a lot of those 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:14.760 our honkeys back in Pittsburgh. We like to call them 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:19.079 Eastern Europeans. So Friday through Monday of Easter week was big. 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:23.040 Those were our vacations because when Friday, Memorial Day weekend 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:26.560 hits a half day of school and our asses were 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.079 running down the street to go to Jake's Pizza down 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:31.480 to Belverne AND's a little pizza shop, playing arcade games. 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:34.800 There was Galacta, there was a what was that centipede? 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:38.319 Was the big game Space Invaders? Space Invaders And that 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.800 was the beginning of summer. And we had off from 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:46.280 that day until we reported around what for Camp in 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:48.440 middle of August, and we had real summers. 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:51.920 My kids today don't have summers. Our kids go till 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:52.920 the end of June. 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:56.559 And if you play sports, playing freaking baseball, traveling to 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.760 Long Island in July, your Fourth of July weekends are 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:00.560 rum I. 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:04.200 Was spending, you know, fourth of July weeks in the middle. 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:07.800 Of Pennsylvania at this massive complex getting run out of 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.000 gyms with her forty to four to four. 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.439 I've sponsored teams. Hey, coach, we haven't fun yet. 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.200 You guys have a good time because I'm missing kak 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:19.640 Cod right now. For anybody listening to this, you get 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:21.880 kids in it. You know, let your kids enjoy life. 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:24.319 Enjoyed life with your kids. They grow up fast and 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:25.280 and boom they're gone. 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:27.800 I mean, you got to have a summer, you know what. 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:29.240 I mean you know what I've done. 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:35.160 Oh, my son played AAU baseball club baseball only at fifteen, 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:42.400 and then my daughter plays club lacrosse because she begged to. 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:44.000 That's different. 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:47.120 Once did we push you to that? Like, it's all 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:52.480 about what she wants and I want them playing multiple sports. 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:54.880 That's good, that's good. You know, I've talked to you. 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:56.040 I've talked to Christian about this. 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:59.520 I've talked to brew Teddy Bruski who you know, when 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:02.439 you have it's coming up in their ninth grade, tenth grade, eleventh, 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:03.959 twelfth grade kids, you want to be around and you 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:06.280 want to help coach. Those guys are coaching down there 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:07.000 at Feeing and the like. 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:08.320 It's different when we played. 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:10.240 Man, these kids nowadays, you know, you don't hit, You 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.439 gotta baby them, you gotta hold their hands. 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:15.000 You get into clicks now, you know. 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:18.839 And man, if you get outside that circle and you 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:21.760 didn't play in the spring, but the eight other. 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:24.000 Girls did or the eight other boys did, You're done. 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:24.640 You missed it. 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:27.520 Man, you missed that time and they sort of phaded 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:31.040 your good coaches will kill trip you into getting their 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.199 ass down to this this training facility in the summer 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:34.440 because we did a two day session. 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:36.760 We started five start at six am. Man. 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.199 I played football, I played basketball, and I played baseball. 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:43.240 I actually end up running track my junior senior year 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:45.360 because I threw the javelin because my dad didn't want 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:47.040 to be playing baseball because everything was side arm with me. 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:47.880 Everything was over the top. 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.079 Now with football when you're six five, you know, but 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:52.920 nobody wants to unless you're Chuck Long from the University 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:54.839 Iowa throwing side arm or Jim Everett. 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:56.439 Back in the day, that's what there were fun days 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:58.520 get recruited by those schools, all right, So let's talk 0:13:58.559 --> 0:13:58.880 about that. 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:01.280 So, as a kid who's growing up in western Pennsylvania 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:04.520 and is the ball boy for Joe Montana, I gotta 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:06.000 believe did you was Notre Dame? 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.199 Did you want to go to Notre Dame? Why? Maryland? 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:10.240 I should not want to go to Notre Dame? Okay? 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:14.560 So I love Okay, So just kidding. You gonna love 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:16.280 this story. So my dad, my dad was the idea 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:16.600 at the time. 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:17.400 It was not my coach. 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:23.480 And Jerry Sandusky, the infamous Jerry Sandusky from penn State, 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:25.640 was the first guy to ever recruit me, coming on 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:28.320 in ninth grade, Jerry would make a visit to my 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:32.240 house once a month to had we had a bumper 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:33.880 pool table, not a big poll table. We had little 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.000 house couldn't fit a big pool table, so that next 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.640 best thing we had bumper pool. Jerry would come into 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:42.640 my house and just shoot stick with me in the basement. 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.200 And man, I was going to freaking Penn State from 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:48.400 ninth grade on, and I ended up having you know, 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:50.680 meat balls a Joe Paturno's house. Could still see the 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:53.560 red and white check table on a folded table in 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:56.560 his nondescript house in the middle of Penn State's campus, 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:58.880 you know, one hundred thousand people. And I went to 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:02.200 every camp from ninth right on, and then my senior year, 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:04.600 they come to me and tell me they're gonna take 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:07.960 Tom Bill out of Tom's River, New Jersey, and they're 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:08.680 gonna be the quarterback. 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:10.480 We're only gonna have one scholarship quarterback. 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:14.200 But you're six five, two thirty. We want you to 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:18.160 play linebacker. We're gonna make you a linebacker here. Jim 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:20.720 Kelly went through that, Jeff Hosteling with it. They all 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:23.320 got recruited there to play linebacker, even though over quarterbacks 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:26.920 coming out of Western ba Jesus, I was the I 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:28.400 was the number two kick coming out of the state 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:31.680 of Pennsylvania. It was me and Major Harris Old West 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:33.720 Virginia courter. We're all getting recruited at the same time. 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.600 Eddie McCaffrey was in the center of the state. We 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:38.800 all played a big thirty three All Star game. Eddie 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:42.040 was my receiver. Shoan Browski Michael Owens were my tailbacks. 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:44.480 They both went both went to Syracuse. All our lineman 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.040 went the Nebraska and we're playing in a state of Texas, 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:49.320 you know, in this big, big thirty three game, thirty 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:51.800 five thousand people for a high school game and Hershey 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.640 Park and you smell the chocolate. It's just discussing at 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:55.600 ninety five degrees. 0:15:57.720 --> 0:15:59.960 You were listening to the Patch from the Past podcast 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:02.520 brought to you by who but W. B. Mason. 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:03.040 W W. 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:06.200 Mason delivers all of your business essentials for free with 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:12.320 no minimum mortar, break room, furniture, facilities, maintenance, office supplies, 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.800 and so much more for the latest delivery of business products. 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:19.080 Nobody does it better than who but W. B. Mason. 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:24.840 But the whole recruiting process was awesome. Like I love Jerry. 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:27.240 I wanted to go to penn State. They ended up 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.640 screwing me over. Then I fell in love with Pitt 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:30.720 and Foge Phasio. 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:32.440 Oh wow. He ended up getting cammed. 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:34.160 Mike, godf you got hired, so I got Cotton a 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:38.280 transitional phase. Their Pitt still offered me, but Hirad Schnellenberger 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:43.080 won a national championship with Jim Kelly at the time. Yeah, 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:46.920 ended up going to Louisville, yep, and try to resurrect 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:47.400 that program. 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:49.280 They recruited me hard. My dad wanted me to go 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:49.960 to Louisville. 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:52.480 Like they're sending private jets to get you there, and 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:54.640 you know, you land and the bands waiting for you 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:58.360 on the tarmac. You got shown around that town real well. 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:04.320 Duke recruited me very hard. They were one and ten 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:06.600 number two kick coming out of State of Pennsylvania's not 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:08.399 going to Duke mom. Mom wanted to be going to Duke. 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:11.840 Dad would be go Louisville, You're gonna start as from Mom. 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:13.119 Wanted to be going to Duke. She cried when I 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:13.720 told Duke no. 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:15.879 Steve Spurrier was a Duke as an assistant at the 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:21.639