1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of I 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: and there's Chuck and this is Stuff you Should Know 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: the podcast. That's right, this is our octopus adjacent uh. 5 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: Continued love for cephalopods episode on one of the weirdest 6 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: looking creatures on planet Earth, the squid. Not just weird looking, Chuck, 7 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: also pretty smart, widely cannibalistic, and beaked. Yeah, they're weird 8 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,319 Speaker 1: looking animals, man, the squid. Imagine if a human had 9 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: its face in its belly button and no arms, and 10 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: that's kind of what a squid is, right, And also 11 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: our esophagus went through our brain on the way to 12 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: our stomach. Imagine that that is really weird. They look 13 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: like they're uh, they look sort of like an octopus 14 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: wearing a big papal hat. Yeah, let's just sit here 15 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: and take weird descriptions of of squid for the rest 16 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: of the episode because I like it. They're very very 17 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: strange creatures, but they are awesome and like you said, 18 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: possibly as smartest dogs. Yeah, we'll get to that for sure. 19 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: But um, squid have been around for a very long time. 20 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: Exactly when is not quite certain. But at least a 21 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: hundred million years from what I've seen, and um, since 22 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: that time, there there have been either a plethora of 23 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: species three hundred or it's been whittled down to three 24 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: hundred species. I'm not entirely certain, but those three hundred 25 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: species of squid are basically divided between two suborders of squid. 26 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: And for my money, Chuck, I love it when suborders 27 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: are like these are like this, and those are like that, 28 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: and that's that. And this is one of those instances. 29 00:01:54,000 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: You've got my opposida and oisida. I pro this too. 30 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I didn't, and I didn't pay off. 31 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: So that's that's the lesson here. Everybody, don't practice. Don't 32 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: even bother. I figured one of those in the second group, 33 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: one of those first two letters would have been silent, 34 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,839 Speaker 1: but they're both pronounced. That's that's my take of um 35 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: Latin pronunciation. Oh we gaps that. Uh, all right, So 36 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: we'll talk a little bit about a few examples of 37 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: the my opposite a sub order. First, Uh, these fellows 38 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: live in a pretty shallow water compared to their friends. 39 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: And as you'll see, some you know squid, uh, certainly 40 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: the giant squid live very very very very in very 41 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: deep waters. Um. But the that first group has uh 42 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: suckers only, and as you will see, that's uh not unusual. 43 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: But that's just one thing that they can have on 44 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: those tentacles. They have a transparent membrane that covers their eyeballs. 45 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 1: And here's a few of those dudes. One very common 46 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: one is the California gets squid and they live in 47 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: very shallow waters and the eastern Pacific basically from Mexico 48 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: all the way up to Alaska. Yeah. I saw that 49 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: that Alaska as recent as as recent as two thousand fifteen, 50 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: and that they think they're moving northward because of climate change. Actually, 51 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: tons of these in the Monterey Bay and where they're 52 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: fished very heavily. And by the way, we should thank 53 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: Ocean Bites dot org. Uh. And it's not a seafood website, 54 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: believe or not. H The Guardian, the Spruce Eats, which 55 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: is a food website, and our old friends at house 56 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,839 Speaker 1: Stuff works for most of the stuff. Yep. Um. There's 57 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: also the common European squid for our listeners in the UK. Hey, everybody, 58 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: these are the squid that you swim with every day. 59 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: They're found in the Mediterranean. You could also find them 60 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: in the Atlantic, the Eastern Atlantic, and they are a 61 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: little less shallow than the California market squid. They swim 62 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: anywhere from twenty which is undred and fifty feet, and 63 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: they weigh up to about three pounds on average, and 64 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: they're about sixteen inches long. UM. So it's like a 65 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: good sized, decent sized squid that you have to hold 66 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: with like two hands. You know, if you're picking one 67 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: up out of the water, which you shouldn't do, No, 68 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: you shouldn't do that. Then you've got your Caribbean reef 69 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: squid obviously lives in the Caribbean and then off the 70 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: Florida coasts and these you know, this is where you're 71 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: find the first mention of the cuttle fish. Um see 72 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: you t t not cuddles and cuddling up with one. 73 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: They look a little more like a cuttlefish. But a 74 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: cuttlefish is a cephalopod along with the octopus and those 75 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: three Um, there's a lot of similarities between these three 76 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: um little fishies. And so you're gonna hear things about 77 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 1: the cuttlefish and some about the octopus as well. Yeah, 78 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: you just can't talk about squid and not mention the octopus, 79 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: which I'm sure just really burns squids hash, you know. Sure. 80 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: So then you've got the oopsida that are um, the 81 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: deep dwelling ones. Like you said, there's the short finned 82 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: squid which lives in the Atlantic from Florida to Newfoundland. UM. 83 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: They have actually a long migration. They go to warmer 84 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: waters to lay their eggs, which is um an unusual 85 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: characteristic for squid. UM. What else is there for ops at? 86 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: A chuck? Well, this one's really interesting. The deep sea 87 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: luminescence squid. Uh. They live about three thousand feet down 88 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: in the North Atlantic and then you can find them 89 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: um in different parts all over the world New Zealand 90 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: and Australia, Japan, UM, also Hawaii and Bermuda. And they lives, 91 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, so deep, it's really dark down there, and 92 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: they actually you know, we've talked about bioluminescence before, I 93 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: think a whole episode on bioluminescence, and I don't know 94 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: if we mentioned this squid, because the deep sea luminescence 95 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: squid does practice or is capable of bioluminescence and have 96 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: these photophor organs that that light up the deep dark 97 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: darkness of the deep sea, the deep darkness of the 98 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: deep sea. I like that, I saw, Yeah, I do too. 99 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: I saw somewhere that those squid and other luminescing squids 100 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: um like they do that to communicate with one another 101 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: as much as to hunt and prey. But it does 102 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,119 Speaker 1: make sense that they would have to do this because 103 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: squid are primarily um. Their primary senses eyesight. They have 104 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: really sharp eyesight, although, as we'll see interestingly, their color blind, 105 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: which is gonna make something really snappy eventually. Uh. And 106 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,679 Speaker 1: what about this Humboldt squid. I like this guy seven 107 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: to fifteen feet long, as much as a hundred pounds, 108 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: got kind of a it is, and it looks it's 109 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: got kind of a reddish skin. So they call them 110 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: the red devil because they're also really brutal um when 111 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,239 Speaker 1: they attack their prey, and they'll even go after sharks. 112 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: I saw that they'll go after whales sometimes too, So 113 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: they don't mess around there in the eastern Pacific. So 114 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: I guess around Humboldt County, California. So you know what 115 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: they're doing. Yeah, you know why they got those red eyes. 116 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: They're smoking seaweed. Uh, very good. Uh. So we want 117 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: to shout out something else that is not exactly a squidum, 118 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 1: But we do need to shout out the vampire squid 119 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: from Hell. Uh. They do call it a squid, but 120 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: it's actually a well what they call it is a 121 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: vampiromorpha from what is the order? No, that's the order. 122 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: What's the speciom vampiro toothis infra analyis, which means vampire 123 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: squid from Hell. Yeah, very scary sounding name. And again, 124 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: it's not exactly a squid, even though it does um. 125 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: It is a cephalopod, but it's sort of like the 126 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: way I described it on this video was it's like 127 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: the representation of a cephalopod before they split into octopus 128 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: and squid. So it's a really ancient creature. Uh. They're 129 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: known as living fossils. Basically they live below six meters 130 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: and what's called the oxygen minimum zone, and there's just 131 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: not a lot of oxygen down there, and so they 132 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: have a very low metal ballic rate and mainly just 133 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: sort of they do have eight arms and not tin uh, 134 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: so they have the arms like an octopus instead of 135 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: a squid, but they mainly just float around and they 136 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: don't move much because of the so little because of 137 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: the lack of oxygen. And the way they eat is 138 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: really cool. They have these uh they're not carnivores. They 139 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: eat what's called marine snow, which is just sort of 140 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: the detritus that's floating around, like little bits and pieces 141 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: of fish skin and and fish poop and stuff. Uh 142 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: that kind of looks like snow in the deep darkness. 143 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: And they have these little lines that they throw out 144 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: from their body, uh, sort of like a fishing line 145 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: almost that several feet long, and the snow just sort 146 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: of collects on it. It's really sticky, and when they 147 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: get enough stuff, they put it in their mouth and 148 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: then just sort of pull it back out again like 149 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: a bare chicken bone and a and a Tom and 150 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: Jerry cartoon and all that all that marine snow is 151 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: now in their body. Really interesting though. Um, I want 152 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: to give a shout out to the fin squid. Two. 153 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: Did you see that that link? Yeah? That things that 154 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: things all arms. Yeah, because a lot of the the 155 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: um the squid out there, like especially the my opposite 156 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: of squid, they're fairly evenly proportioned between tentacle and head 157 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: for the most part, or at the very least, it's 158 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: not wildly disproportionate. That's not the case with the big 159 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: finn squid. It's very little head and body, lots and 160 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: lots of arms up to twenty one ft long arms 161 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: and tentacles and um. They are probably the deepest dwelling squid. 162 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: They've been recorded up to twenty three and eighty feet 163 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: down in the Philippine Sea and only twelve recorded sightings 164 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: have taken place, which I think is pretty neat. That's 165 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: pretty amazing. Look at the picture of these, These are cool. Yeah, sure. 166 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: And the vampire squid too, Yeah, I don't think we 167 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: said that it has It looks like a vampire cape too. Yeah, 168 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: that's where it gets the name, right. And the red eyes. Yeah, 169 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: they're very very creepy looking. Um. Alright, So squids are mollusks, 170 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: but they don't look like other mollusks that you know 171 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: of because they don't have an outer shell. What they 172 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: have is a soft body with a shell on the inside, 173 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: which is pretty remarkable. And I didn't really see anything 174 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: evolutionarily that I could point to to sort of explain this. Well, yeah, 175 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: so the only thing I saw is that it supports 176 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: the internal organs. It's called a pen. But why it's 177 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: on the inside rather the outside, I don't understand that either. 178 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: It just makes squid that much more interesting, you know, well, 179 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: and that much more vulnerable. Uh that they had a 180 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: big hard outer shell that's obviously like an armor for 181 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: a mollusc. So uh, I don't know. Maybe they missed 182 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: the memo, I guess so. So they're also cephalopods too, right, 183 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: which um includes octopus, cuttlefish, the nautilus, which is a 184 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: distantly related cephalopod, and then squid. Uh. And then you've 185 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: got the cephalopods that are eight armed, the octopods, and 186 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 1: then you've got the ten armed decapods, cuttle fish and squid. 187 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: And technically squid have eight tentacles in two arms, but 188 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: together that's ten. Yeah. And I think those two arms 189 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: are sort of more like arms than tentacles, right, don't 190 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: They kind of shorter and like function a little more 191 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: like grabby arms. Yeah. They can deal a deck of cards, 192 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: they can drive a car. There's a lot of stuff 193 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: those arms can do, but they usually have them kind 194 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: of retracted up and then the ones that use their 195 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: arms to catch prey they shoot them out and grab 196 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: prey and then bring them back toward them, which is 197 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: pretty amazing. So their arms are usually much longer than 198 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: their tentacles and a lot of the species. Yeah, and 199 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: you mentioned that we don't know exactly when squids came about. 200 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 1: We do know that cephalopods came about during what's known 201 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: as the Cambrian Explosion about five million years ago, when 202 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: a lot of new animal groups emerged. But squids, uh, 203 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: they split off at some point, like you said, between 204 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: these octopods and decapods, but we're not exactly sure how 205 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 1: long ago, a couple of hundred million years probably right. 206 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: I saw it. I saw anywhere from like two hundred 207 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty million, and I saw it placed 208 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 1: within the Mesozoic marine revolution, which apparently is a time 209 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: when a lot of um different things evolved harder shells, 210 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: and then other predators evolved ways to break through those shells. 211 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: It was like a real um just kind of like 212 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: an arms race in in the ocean um during that 213 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 1: time for evolution, and that's when squid would have come along. 214 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: So from what I saw, I like that an arms race. Yeah. So, uh, 215 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: we did discuss the fact that some of these like 216 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: if you haven't gotten the picture now. They have a 217 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: very large size range. Because we did mention the small ones. 218 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: There are some that are just like an inch long, 219 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: just a tiny little squid. Uh. And then eventually we're 220 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: going to get to the colossus and the giant squids, 221 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: which these are the you know, the stuff of legend 222 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: of the deep sea from like you know, ancient sea 223 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: farers of seeing these huge like cracking like beasts, and 224 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: these are huge. They're like sixty plus feet long. And uh, 225 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: it's just amazing to me that you can have something 226 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: that kind of looks the same that's an inch and 227 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: then sixty ft long. Yeah, it's pretty neat. Um the 228 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: sixty ft long. Yeah, and they're all like equally interesting too. 229 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: But the um, the smaller ones are typically going to 230 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: be coastal ones, right, and the bigger ones are more 231 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: suited for deep deep sea. I'm guessing, oh absolutely, you're 232 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: not gonna see a sixty squid swing swimming in the 233 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: ocean very close to you, thank god. Pretty unnerving. So 234 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: one of the things that really has always like um 235 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: boiled my pot about squids is that they have a 236 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: parrot shaped beak. A lot of the species do in 237 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: the center where their arms come together. There's a mouth 238 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: and it often has a beak and then a bony 239 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: tongue called the radula, and those arms will shoot out 240 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: grab some poor unsuspecting fish that goes help me, help me, 241 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: as the squid pulls it closer and closer to its mouth, 242 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: and then it's beak tears into it and tears it 243 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: into pieces. It's really important that it tears it into 244 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: smaller pieces because the ragula forces those pieces down the 245 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: I guess the squid's gullet, and again it has to 246 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: pass through the esophagus that goes through the brain. So 247 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: you don't want a big old chunk getting lodged in 248 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: your esophagus in your brain area. God uh yeah. I 249 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: mean it's pretty frightening when you see pictures of this beak. 250 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: I mean squid or not to be Is it squids 251 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: or squid? Sounds like it would be squid, but I 252 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: think it is squids. No, So I saw squid as 253 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: plural for squid, okay, right, but if you're talking about 254 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: a bunch of different species of squid, you would probably 255 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: say squids. Okay, that's a distinction. I don't remember where 256 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: I saw that the word else i'd shout him out. 257 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: So you mentioned that they're smart. Uh, there has been 258 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: in a and I believe this was just in the 259 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: year is when they finally put an m R. I 260 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: on a squid because they had pretty good ideas that 261 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: they were intelligent. Um, but they found that some of 262 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: these squid have five hundred million neurons. And if that 263 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: sounds like a lot of neurons for an animal like this, 264 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: you're right, because like a rat, and rats are pretty smart, 265 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: they have about two hundred million. If you look at 266 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: a regular ordinary maluks, they only have about twenty. So 267 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: five hundred million neurons is more along the lines of 268 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: what you might find in a dog. Yeah. So that's 269 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: where I was wondering, like, how do they how are 270 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: they equating intelligence between a dog and a squid? That 271 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: makes sense, you know, rather than brain size and relation 272 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: to body size, which we kind of pooh pooed in 273 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: the Origin of Intelligence episode, Like the number of neurons 274 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: is actually a pretty good kind of indicator or for comparison. 275 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: I would guess the thing is I saw this describe 276 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: somewhere I can't remember where that What is what squid 277 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: intelligence or octopus intelligence is is probably so radically different 278 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: and alien from what human intelligences or even what dog 279 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: intelligence is, because dogs, humans, monkeys, rats were all distantly 280 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: related to fish, whereas squid and octopods they evolved from 281 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: like basically sea slugs on a different, totally different family lineage, 282 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: So their intelligence generated or evolved differently independently from human intelligence. 283 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: And I also saw that possibly the octopus was the 284 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: first intelligent being on Earth, so to compare our intelligence, 285 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: there is definitely overlapping crossover. Um, but there it's there's 286 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: just no telling what their experience of life is like. 287 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: But it's just so fascinating to think that they have 288 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: their own brand of intelligence and their experiencing life through 289 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: that intellect, and we'll just never get it, just like 290 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: they could never fully get our intellect either. Yeah, because 291 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: I think that walking around on Earth, we tend to 292 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: think of intelligence is like for animals is like if 293 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: they're trainable or something, and like can you teach a 294 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: squid to sit and say, uh, say please roll over? 295 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: Play dead? And it's a different kind of intelligence. But um, 296 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: why don't we take a break and we'll talk about 297 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: another part of their weird kind of intelligence right after 298 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: the break. Yeah, all right, so we talked about squid 299 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: intelligence and how it's a different kind of intelligence, but 300 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: they're super smart. UM. One thing that we need to 301 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: mention and uh for like a full the full low 302 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: down on chromatophores. I think we should just refer people 303 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: to the Great Octopus episode. Um. But they do have these, um, 304 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: these chromatophores on their body, and they're able to um 305 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: camouflage themselves, are able to change the the size and 306 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: shape and color of these pigment cells on their skin 307 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: or you know, just under their skin to where they 308 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: can you know, you've seen octopuses do it to where 309 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: they camouflage themselves in remarkable ways, to where they even 310 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: take the shape of something like a reef or something 311 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: that they're hiding next do. But squid actually have what 312 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 1: they called or what they refer to, or at least 313 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: males do, a skin powered alphabet, and they can literally 314 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: uh well again, I don't know if it's literally. I 315 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: don't know if I'm being that guy that's a set 316 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: word wrong. But they say that squid can do things 317 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 1: like say I love you through their through those chromatophor 318 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: words to a female squid. And it's not just like, oh, 319 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: it gives off a mating cent like it literally has 320 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: like a sort of alphabet that it can spell out things. 321 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: And again it's this is squid language, but that's what 322 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: they equate it to. At least they say exactly. Hey, 323 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: it's okay. So I have two questions now that you 324 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: brought up the octopus episode, our octopus still your favorite 325 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: animal of all time? Because I'm pretty sure you declared 326 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: them that in that episode. There might say they're up there. Okay, 327 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: so they're still up there, but they're not necessarily your 328 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: favorite there there they Maybe let's just say that, okay, 329 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: fair enough. The second question I have is what happened 330 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: to you in the rope trauma? You should ask that 331 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: once a year till the end of time. Maybe in 332 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: our final episode ever, I'll reveal that. It would be 333 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,719 Speaker 1: a nice little He'll be like, let me tell you 334 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 1: about trauma. Oh it was a day and seven. I'd 335 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: be like, chuck your fifty five? What happened? Um? Alright? 336 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: So I mean squids are smart. Can we just put 337 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: a nail on that one? Yeah? Sure, But don't nail 338 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: a squid to a board. That's an awful thing to do. No, 339 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: don't do that. I think it bears saying, because I'm 340 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: gonna get up on my soapbox when we talk about 341 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: eating squid. Okay, yeah, let's do it. You want to 342 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: talk about eating squid now? No, no, no, let's do that. Okay, 343 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: I got you. I mistook what you were meaning. I've 344 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: got squid intellect as best. I think we should talk 345 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: about squid sex and then squid inc Okay, let's talk 346 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: about squid sex chuck, because it gets kind of freaky, 347 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: gets a little nasty um and they have like, uh 348 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: like sexual reproduction, which means that they they go, they 349 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: get it on, they hugging kids. Right, are we adopting 350 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: that the official s y s K terminology can't steal 351 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: it from unchman? That's that's his steal. We could if 352 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: we give him a shout out and mentioned like his 353 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: Twitter handle every time we do. I'm sure he'd appreciate that. Yeah, 354 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: we can't steal someone else's bet, even though I keep 355 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: saying it. Yeah, I'm just trying to pave the way 356 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: to full acceptance one where or the other. Right, can 357 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: we talk about squid sex? Yeah? I tried to. I 358 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: tried to lay it out there. Well, here's what happens. 359 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: The male squid has sperm that are produced in testes 360 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: or test us and uh, they this this sperm is 361 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: stored in a sack, and when they do mate, the 362 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: male has this special arm that transfers packets of sperm 363 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: to the female's mouth cavity. And that's because very unusual, 364 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: but that's where the eggs are, right right, that's where 365 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: it makes sense. That's when it all kind of comes 366 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: home and everybody can go, oh, okay, alright, cool, And 367 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: did you make scare quotes when you said arms special arm? Uh? 368 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: Within kind of sounded like yeah, I think so. So 369 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: then after the eggs are fertilized, the female um squid 370 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 1: basically spits them out and what's termed or what's described 371 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 1: as a gelatinous mass of fertilized eggs. And I assumed 372 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: that like she would just kind of let them float away. 373 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: And that was that because, as we'll see, the squid 374 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: life cycles really short, especially shallow coastal squid live maybe 375 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: for a year, and the big thing that they do 376 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: is reproduce. But it turns out, Chuck, that the female 377 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: squid actually goes and grabs the fertilized eggs and then 378 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: sets about hiding them in different places in the in 379 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: the little habitat where she um just gave birth to 380 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: them or laid them, I guess is what you'd say. Yeah, 381 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: and she does this before she dies, because I think 382 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: usually both the male and the female usually die after 383 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: they mate. Right, Yeah, it's very sad, that's the It 384 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: is kind of sad. That's like the big thing they do. 385 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: It's weird. Well, one of the big things they do 386 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: is inc. And I think this is a good time 387 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: to talk about squid inc because, um, it's great in pasta. 388 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: I love that squitting pasta. M hm, you know, like 389 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: squitting pasta. No, this is this part of your soapbox. 390 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm reserving it for now, all right. I 391 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: love squitting pasta. So let me ask you, though, does 392 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: it actually taste like anything? Or is it like the 393 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: power of suggestion kind of thing like all my pasta's black? 394 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, it tastes completely different than regular pasta. 395 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: What does it taste like? Have you never had squitting 396 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: So you've never had squitting pasta? No? I haven't. Okay, Yeah, 397 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: it tastes completely different. It's very very rich. Um. It 398 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: tastes it's very briny um. It has a different consistency. 399 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, it's not just like they add it 400 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: than just to say, oh, look it's black like it 401 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: imparts a taste. I gotta try this stuff. I mean, 402 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: I think it's delicious. I don't have it a lot 403 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: because it's you don't find it on its own a menus, 404 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: but uh is one place here indicator that that has it, 405 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: and I love it. So that is one use of 406 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: squid inc. Right. Another use is writing. Another use is 407 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: that anti cancer, anti retroviral um and anti microbial drug. Yeah, 408 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: it's so funny we go from like the most basic 409 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: use of squid inc to some really advanced technology with 410 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: squid inc because it turns out that there's a lot 411 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: more to squid ink than just pigment, and the pigment 412 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: itself is actually one of the reasons why that the 413 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: ink can be used to produce all these different drugs. 414 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: That has a bunch of weird stuff in it, that's right. Um, 415 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: there's this one of the main things that is in 416 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: squid inc. As well. There's a couple of things. There's 417 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: mucus in there um. If you're eating squid ink pasta, Uh, 418 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: you take the inc directly from the sack. So there's 419 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: none of the mucus in there. But melanin is one 420 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: of the main components of cephalopod inc. Right, Yeah, there's 421 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:03,719 Speaker 1: melanin in there. There's also um, catecholamines, peptod peptidal glycans. 422 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: I practiced all these two chuck um free amino acids 423 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,719 Speaker 1: or sorry acids, uh, and metals. Right, and you've got 424 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: all this stuff in there, and you're just like, well, 425 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: why this is just ink? Why does this stuff matter? 426 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: We're not entirely certain Like we've we've been talking about 427 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: squid inc since the time of Aristotle for you know, 428 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: almost years, and we don't really understand it much better 429 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: than Aristotle did. We just kind of know a little 430 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: more what's in it. We just don't really know all 431 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: the stuff that it does. Yeah, and we don't know 432 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: everything about just exactly why. We know some of the 433 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: reasons why they squirt inc. One is certainly a defense. Uh, 434 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: they'll shoot out an ink cloud and get away. Uh. 435 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: It's pretty remarkable. Some squid can um kind of cast 436 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: it out in a pattern to look like something else 437 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: like sometimes look like another uh marine life basically, which 438 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: is really amazing when you think about it. Um, and 439 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: we know kind of how it happens, but we we 440 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: there's still so much we don't know about the ink um. 441 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: We know it's generated and stored in this ink sack 442 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: and that there is an ink gland in there, and 443 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: then they almost kind of poop it out. It feeds 444 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: into the rectum and it's controlled by a sphincter and 445 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: it basically sort of ejects it with this funnel organ 446 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: um from the anus and out into this cloud into 447 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: it's really interesting and they can make it into different shapes. 448 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm kind of wondering, like how that's done right, you know, 449 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: Like I I imagine you know the old road Runner 450 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: cartoons where Roadrunner would take off so fast there was 451 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 1: like a dust version of Roadrunner. That's kind of what 452 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: I imagine these things doing, right. Yeah. Um, The thing 453 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: is is it's not it's it's not as straightforward as 454 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: it sounds where they just shoot some ink and form 455 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: an ink smoke screen or an ink road Runner and 456 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 1: confuse their prey um because of all these different you know, 457 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: components to squid inc. Along with this muc that they 458 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: sometimes introduced to varying degrees, it can have all sorts 459 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: of different effects, and they think that like you know, 460 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: if you add a bunch of mucus they're trying to 461 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: affect like a fish nearby that's trying to get them, 462 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: because they've they've shown that like the mucus affects the gills. 463 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: They also think that um dopamine and al dopa, which 464 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: are melani precursors but also neurotransmitters and humans, actually activate 465 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: the old factory receptors on squids tentacles, and so it's 466 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: a way of communicating too, Like they're they're communicating with 467 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: other squid by transferring this ink to their tentacles in 468 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: a way, which is pretty amazing in and of itself. Well, yeah, 469 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: so they're what they're able to do. It's amazing is 470 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: that they're actually mixing up for whatever purpose they have. 471 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 1: They're mixing up their ink in different proportions with the 472 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: other stuff to accomplish a different thing. And I guess 473 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: they're they're doing this on the fly to a certain degree. Yeah, 474 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: probably without even thinking really, um, they're they're yeah, and 475 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: they're just doing it depending on the context in the situation, 476 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: like adding a little more ink, a little more maybe 477 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: a little more melanie, a little more mucus, a little 478 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: less mucus, whatever it is, whatever the situation calls for. 479 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: And then the other cool thing about them inking supposedly 480 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: they're they and cuddle fish and octopuses are the only 481 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: ones that ink. I couldn't find any other animal that inks. 482 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: And they have different color inks. And I think squid 483 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,239 Speaker 1: is blue black typically, which um, yeah, I think it's 484 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: blue black. Uh. The other thing that they do when 485 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: they ink is they take off really fast. I mean, 486 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: some of them can cover twenty five body links in 487 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: a second. Like that's how fast they take off. That's 488 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: basically like here I am, now, I'm not here anymore. 489 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: That's that's pretty amazing stuff. Yeah, and they do that, 490 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: don't They kind of make their body into like a 491 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: jet propulsion system. They suck in water and then contract 492 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: really quickly and then just shoot it out the other side. Yeah, 493 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: it's essentially the same principle as a jet engine, except 494 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: they don't introduce, you know, gasoline or some sort of 495 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: fuel into it. They just do it strictly with water 496 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: compression and expulsion. But it is the exact same the 497 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: exact same principle, and it does get them going really 498 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: really fast. So you combine ink cloud that's in the 499 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: shape of the road runner and the squid getting out 500 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: of their twenti body links a second, Um, it's gonna 501 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: make it tough for a predator to get their hands 502 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: on that squid. Yeah. Absolutely. UM. One of the kind 503 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: of uh frustrating parts of the whole squid in thing 504 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: is there they don't really know how or why this evolved. Um. 505 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: And there really aren't even a whole lot of theories, 506 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: but one of them that sounds pretty promising to me 507 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: is that, Um, you talked about melanin being h really 508 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: good at dissipating UV radiation. Was that part of the 509 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: reason they evolved to have to be able to shoot 510 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: this inc is to protect their eyes from light damage. 511 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: And we know they have those sensitive eyes, so that 512 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: may um. And then they just had like an excess 513 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: of it, so it eventually evolved where they could store 514 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: it in a sack, can use it for defense. Yeah, 515 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: that's very thrifty of them. Should we take in our 516 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,959 Speaker 1: second break? Sure? All right, let's take another break and 517 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: we'll talk about the really interesting squids are the deep 518 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: sea monster squids. Right after this, Okay, chuck, so it's 519 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: time we're talking finally about the giant squid, the colossal squid, 520 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: the big old squid, h and all the all the 521 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: huge squids. We did one on sea monsters before, too, 522 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: didn't we. Yeah, man, uh, there's no way we didn't. 523 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: Because the they think that the giant squid inspired a 524 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: lot of stories over the years, right, Oh absolutely, I 525 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: mean you see it all through literature, from the Odyssey 526 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: to Twenty Leagues under the Sea. Are these accounts from 527 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: uh sailors about these monsters, these huge beasts of the 528 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: deep sea. And um, it's one of those things where 529 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: like if we had never seen these then would be 530 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: really easy to say, oh, yeah, you know these these 531 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: are the seafaring stories and this is just lore and folklore, 532 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: but it's it's they are actually real creatures. They just 533 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: are so rarely seen and live in such deep waters 534 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: that it's hard to photograph them. But it finally did 535 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: happen in two thousand five, right yeah. And I don't 536 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: really like this story because this is such an example 537 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: of humans as being like, hey, we want to know, 538 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: so we're gonna kill you to find out. I hate 539 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: that part about humans, you know. Um, But in in 540 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: two thousand five, some marine biologists in from Japan have 541 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: been have been trying to track giant squids um for 542 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: I think three years at this point before they finally 543 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: found one in person. And up to that point they'd 544 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: only seen them in the contents of sperm whale stomachs, 545 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: which they I guess they killed two to look into 546 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: to see what was inside. But sperm whales are the 547 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: only predators of the giant squid. So the first time 548 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: they finally saw one was in two thousand five, and um, 549 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: they basically baited a line and then the giant squid 550 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: came and really some terrible stuff happened after that. Yeah, 551 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: the squid got caught up in the line. Um. I 552 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: think that was about a four hour hour struggle to 553 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: get itself free, and it lost one of its cynicals 554 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: in that struggle that they recovered there was eighteen ft long. 555 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: And uh, they did get photographs, and to me, this 556 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: is where they should have been like, all right, well 557 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: we got the pictures that we wanted. Uh. To them, 558 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: I guess it was a bonus that they got one 559 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: of these eighteen foot tentacles. But they went back and 560 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: they captured this thing a year later. Uh, they couldn't 561 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: just leave well enough alone. They actually went back and 562 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: got this thing. Yeah, and they pulled it on the boat, 563 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: and they made all of the all aboard um beat 564 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: it to death with sticks. It didn't make any sense, 565 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: but that's how they did. Just kidding, they didn't actually 566 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: do that. I don't think there were tiny sticks too, right. 567 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: It took forever um, So that yeah, that was that 568 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: was the first time ever and one was ever caught 569 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: um and that was two thousand six the next year 570 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: after that. So if you really think about it, two thousands, five, 571 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: six and seven were huge years for giant deep sea 572 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: squid because in two thousand and seven a colossal squid, 573 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: which is just a little bit smaller than a giant squid, 574 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: was caught um by a New Zealand ship up in 575 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: or down in Antarctica. Right. Yeah, this one weighed close 576 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: to a thousand pounds, had an eight foot mantle which 577 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: is that pope hat, and was seventy almost eighteen feet 578 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: total in length. But at this giant squid had an 579 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: eighteen foot tentacle that they got ahold of and we 580 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: don't even know where the tentacle was cut. It could 581 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 1: have been longer than that. Uh. Then that giant squid 582 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: was really big, But um, yeah, I don't because here's 583 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: the thing. I mean, this is bad enough, but we 584 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: don't even know how many there are. I mean that 585 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: that giant squid could have been one of fifty worldwide, 586 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: Like you don't even know. And even though he said 587 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: they only live about a year, it's it seems pretty obvious. 588 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: And they believe that these giants wid are obviously much 589 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: much older and it's not like they grow to that 590 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: big in a year. Yeah, for sure. So one thing 591 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,439 Speaker 1: that stuck out to me, chuck, And I'm not sure 592 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: how what your take will be on this, but um, 593 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 1: that colossal squid that was caught in two thousand seven 594 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: was reported if they had cut it up into calamari, 595 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: which I didn't realize. This calamari is not the suckers 596 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 1: their rings because they cut the mantle cross ways. Did 597 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: you know that? Yeah, okay, I didn't know that. But 598 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: they said that the calamari would have been the size 599 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: of tractor tires. What do you think about that? I 600 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,439 Speaker 1: don't know if it was an eight footmantle attractor tire 601 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: seems pretty big, but because squid or kind of they're 602 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: not thin, but they're sort of elongated. So I'm just 603 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 1: trying to picture something eight feet long that's a big 604 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: around as a tractor. I guess it depends what kind 605 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: of tractor we talk in your like a lawn tractor, 606 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: like a John Dear, that's what they were saying. They 607 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: let they put in in brackets. They put lawn before 608 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: a tractor, and I got edited out, all right, so 609 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 1: I could I could buy that, but I don't know. 610 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,919 Speaker 1: That's I'm just trying to picture that, and it doesn't 611 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: seem likely, but who knows. But the off shot of 612 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: that is is they caught the first colossal squid ever 613 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: and the news reported that what the size of the 614 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 1: calamari would have been, which really kind of reveals our 615 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: preoccupation with eating squid if you ask me. That's right. 616 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: The word calamari is actually Italian for squid um. And 617 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: I quit eating this stuff when I saw my octopus teacher. Uh, 618 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: all this stuff was off the mini for me after 619 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: that documentary. Yeah, but and I did talk about eating 620 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: squid ink, so that's probably something I should stop because 621 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 1: I don't think you get the squid inc Without getting 622 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: the squid. Yeah, they don't like keep a live squid 623 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: and squeeze it and then throw it back in the ocean. 624 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: They they cut the squid up. I'm pretty sure they 625 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 1: used the other stuff for calamari too, right, I would guess. 626 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: But also, you know, have squid inc Maybe once a year, 627 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: so it's not like not to let myself off the 628 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: hook entirely, But it's not the kind of thing I'm 629 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: eating every other day, you know. Yeah, But you make 630 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: a good point. It's really it's it's hard to eat 631 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 1: something that you know is intelligent, you know, and can suffer. 632 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: And it is extremely hypocritical of me to even, you know, 633 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: tout that because I eat chicken, and I eat um 634 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: beef jerky all the time, like so much beef jerky. 635 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: But um, those are animals too, and they can suffer. 636 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 1: So I'm kind of hypocritical in that sense. But still 637 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: for me personally, I'm with you. I don't eat octopus 638 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: or squid or pigs because of their intelligence that we're 639 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: figuring out. Certainly, the lot of calamari has served up 640 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 1: in a lot of bad sports bars around the country. Um, 641 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people may not even understand 642 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: what they're eating. Sometimes with calamari. Uh, it's pretty clear 643 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: when you get the little you know, full bodied, you 644 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: know it's not just the ring. Like when you get 645 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 1: the full body, like, hey, this looks like a little 646 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: tiny squid like that's been battered and fried, it's pretty 647 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: clear what it is. But you don't a lot of 648 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: times you don't even get those, You just get the rings. 649 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: Can you imagine the indignity of being an intelligent squid 650 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: and knowing that you're going to eventually be served at 651 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: a buffalo wild wings eaten by somebody wearing a football 652 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: jersey but has never played football actually in their life. 653 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: One day, I'm going to I'm going to be passed 654 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: through the gullet of a human and a Hooters, right, 655 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:58,280 Speaker 1: and the asophagus actually goes through their brain. Yeah, So maybe, 656 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: I mean that's where we should cut it off. I mean, 657 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,919 Speaker 1: and if you're into calumari, that's fine. There are plenty 658 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: of ways to eat it, But I don't think we 659 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: need to go into all the detail that the article 660 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: goes into about all the great ways that you can 661 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: cook it. No, but I will say I do have 662 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,720 Speaker 1: a personal anecdote before when I was eating squid the 663 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 1: only sushi. There's two pieces of sushi that I've ever 664 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: spit out. One was um had a raw quail egg 665 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: cracked on it, and it was just too much. I 666 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: just couldn't do it. I tried it, I couldn't do it. 667 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: The other one was a whole squid, like one of 668 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: those one inters that you said um, And I chewed 669 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 1: and chewed and chewed longer than I've ever chewed anything, 670 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,879 Speaker 1: and I made not even a dent in that thing. 671 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: So I finally just gave up and spit it out. 672 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: That actually might be the lass, Now it's not. I've 673 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: had calumari since then. I wonder if that's just like 674 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: a like chewing gum. Maybe that's what it's for, and 675 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 1: you're supposed to eat it at the end of your 676 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: meal and just chew it for the next couple of hours. 677 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,439 Speaker 1: I got to. But the thing is I eat chewing gum. 678 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: I couldn't eat the squid stacy in your stomach for 679 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: seven years, that's right. Poor What was that? Poor kid? 680 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 1: Did we name that kid? Poor kid who go surgery 681 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 1: because he had five pounds of impacted. My goodness, talk 682 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: about a call back here at episode something right? That's right? Um, well, Chuck, 683 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: I don't think has anything else, and I don't have 684 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,919 Speaker 1: anything else, so go forth and be nice to squid. Uh. 685 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 1: And since I said that, of course it's time for 686 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: listener mail. I'm gonna call this. It's kind of a 687 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: long one, but this is a shorter episode, so this 688 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: is the perfect time for this Mars rock. When you 689 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,720 Speaker 1: picked this one out, Hey guys, I really enjoy your podcast. 690 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 1: I thought i'd share some more interesting factoids, which is 691 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 1: correct to say, related to the Mars rock that was 692 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: found in the Antarctic. Just so happens. I was working 693 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: as a police property and evidence tech about fifteen years 694 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,720 Speaker 1: ago when I was called upon to store a satchel 695 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: of rocks from NASA containing this Mars rock. An engineer 696 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,439 Speaker 1: from NASA was hosting a special class at a local 697 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: Air Force base in our jurisdiction and came to the 698 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 1: police department requesting storage overnight while they were in town. Apparently, 699 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: if you're I never really thought about that though. That's 700 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,399 Speaker 1: kind of kind of cool, But if you have something 701 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: really important in you're in town, I don't think you 702 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 1: and I could do it, But if you're NASA, you 703 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: can go to the local cop shop and say, hey, 704 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 1: keep an eye on this. Yeah, you got right, protect 705 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 1: this with your life. Apparently, if you are authorized and 706 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 1: sign the rocks out of the NASA vault, you are 707 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 1: obligated to stow them in a high security area of 708 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: the local jurisdiction because they are unensurable. It's interesting they're 709 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: considered priceless. We wound up having to track them via 710 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: barcode and stow them in our high security vaults with 711 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 1: our guns, drugs, and cash. When I returned them to 712 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: the NASA employee the next morning, he was kind enough 713 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: to show me the Mars rock. It was fairly unremarkable 714 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: to the naked eye, a low gloss matt finished brown 715 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 1: on speckled tone. So I would imagine that this would 716 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 1: answer Chuck's question of why they don't find these things 717 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 1: in Georgia. It's just a brown rock, just like most 718 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 1: rocks you see in the US. Then that's The employee 719 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: explained that the trigger to the scientist and the Antarctic 720 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,919 Speaker 1: Antarctic excuse me, was that there was a rock at 721 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: all where they were exploring. They quickly surmised that it 722 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: could be extraterrestrial because they couldn't explain how a rock 723 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: had gotten there in the first place, so they sent 724 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,240 Speaker 1: an off for testing and confirmation. Also when this actually 725 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: showed me a few gray moon rocks, of one of 726 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: which he was particularly giddy over. A small white cylindrical 727 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: container with a gray stone, and it held firmly in 728 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: place by a three arm claw. I was holding it 729 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: in its little claw. It had a visible clear dome top. Yeah, 730 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 1: you get it at a visible clear dome top, so 731 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,919 Speaker 1: you can inspect the stone without opening it. The dome 732 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: screwed down tight. The NASA employee explained that it was 733 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: a stone handpicked by buzz Aldrin and secured in the 734 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 1: original container and still filled with the vacuum of space 735 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: that had never been opened. Oh my god, truly an 736 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,839 Speaker 1: all expre awe inspiring experience to participate in my own 737 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,760 Speaker 1: little way of shepherding these rocks to their next exhibit. 738 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: And that is from David. David, David, that was such 739 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: a great email. I'd love that email. I mean, it 740 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 1: had moon rocks, the vacuum of space here on Earth. 741 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: The Mars rock Yo buzz Aldrin made a cameo and 742 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 1: it was unstated, but I believe David probably thanked the 743 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: NASA scientists by giving them a free kilo of cocaine 744 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: from the evidence room and a stack of money. 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