1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: It is a football Friday Week thirteen edition the Cardinals. 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: They're back on the road. Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: Darren Urban joins me. That's right, the Darren Urban at 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: Cards chatters on the show, we'll preview Sunday's game at Minnesota, 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: and like last week in Seattle, another difficult place to play, 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: a familiar place as well. Plus, is this the week 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: Darius Robinson makes his debut? It certainly sounds like it, 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: and as always, we head into enemy territory. We'll speak 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: with Kevin Seffert. He covers the vikings for ESPN dot com. 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, episode eight twenty five, and it 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: starts now. 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: Pa Baker, What Heart? 14 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: What rent? 15 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: This guy's unbelievable. 16 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 17 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 18 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: dot Com slash podcast. 19 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: He's a the ten half of five pays it again 20 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: some more hurry magic. 21 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: Whow here's Craig Grioler. 22 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: So this is different, No, no, no, let me say this. 23 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: This is special. 24 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 4: Oh, it's so special. 25 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 5: Darren is in the house. 26 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 4: I am in the house. 27 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 5: Only took you until week thirteen. 28 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 4: You know you're really going to push your luck here. 29 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 4: I want everybody to know out there that I have 30 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 4: often offered Craig my services for Cover two if needed, 31 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 4: and I'm always been told, no, you're worthless and you're unneeded. 32 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: Not worthless, Okay, certainly not unneeded. However, considering now we 33 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: are playing meaningful football as hey we with meaning they. 34 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 5: Are is on a car. 35 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, not us September, October, November. We 36 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: we build things up to get to this point, to 37 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: have Darren Urban join Cardinals cover two. 38 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 4: And I'm not even coming off a calf strain. 39 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: No, you're not a great segue, but you are. You 40 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: are a professional. You've done this before, have you not? 41 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 4: I haven't. Not everybody went to Syracuse, but some of 42 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 4: us can pull it off. Anyways, do you talk about 43 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 4: Arama matters here before we can? 44 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 5: Okay? I know we can. 45 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: Big games coming up on Saturday for each of us. 46 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: All right, you brought it up calf strain, not for 47 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: either one of us, yes, but the probably most talked 48 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: about calf strain in recent memory with the Arizona Cardinals. 49 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: I would guess probably Darius Robinson. Nothing official, Nothing will 50 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: be official until game day when the inactives are announced 51 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 1: ninety minutes before kickoff. But I'm guessing that on Easycardinals 52 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: dot Com when you write about the inactives, you will 53 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: not have Darius Robinson's name on the inactive list. Just 54 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: a guess here as we speak on Friday, I. 55 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 4: Would think that, I mean, I think that's a guess 56 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 4: at this point, but I mean, Jonathan Gannon really didn't 57 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 4: do anything to knock it down, noted that if Robinson plays, 58 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 4: they have a plan in place in terms of how 59 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 4: to work home acknowledging that he hasn't played up until now, 60 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 4: so obviously you're not going to run him out there 61 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 4: for the full complement of snaps that you might have 62 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 4: had had he been playing all along. Now again, we've 63 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 4: talked about this before, the way this defense runs their 64 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 4: edge edge linebackers and their defensive lineman out there. It's 65 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 4: all rotation. Anyways, Darius Robinson is not going to be 66 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 4: a seventy to seventy five percent snap guy, even when 67 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 4: everything's perfect and he's played for a while. That's just 68 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 4: not how they do things. So I think everybody's looking 69 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 4: forward to this. I know there's been obviously some frustration 70 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 4: from some fans over how long it's taken, but it 71 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 4: takes as long as it takes. I certainly am not 72 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 4: a doctor, nor have I stayed at a holiday and 73 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 4: express recently, so I can't say why we've been on 74 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 4: this timeline, but it is what it is, and whenever 75 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 4: you can get a first round pick on the field, 76 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 4: it's a plus. 77 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: I'll say this about what we've seen now almost two 78 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: full seas with this coaching staff and training staff, they 79 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,279 Speaker 1: are very deliberate when it comes to making. 80 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 5: Sure a player is as ready as possible. 81 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: No one's ever one hundred percent ready to return, but 82 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: making sure that okay, I'm good to go. All right, 83 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna give you another week, maybe a couple more days, 84 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: and I think that's what we've seen from Darius Robinson. Again, 85 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: we're only out there during the open portion of practice 86 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: for what fifteen twenty minutes, maybe twenty five. I'll say 87 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: this though last week, this week, Darius looks very very good. 88 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: No hesitation. As Danny Surrick always mentions, there's no sleeve, 89 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: there's no there's nothing on either calf. So my guess 90 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 1: is he comes in, plays what maybe fifteen twenty five 91 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: snaps and gets his feet wet, and then you ramp 92 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: him up of these last four or five games. 93 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 4: To be clear, I don't disagree with you for what 94 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 4: we've seen. What we see, we never see him actually 95 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 4: taking any snaps against an offense Tilneman. We see him 96 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 4: going again and sleds and bags and the air. So yeah, 97 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 4: he looks good doing that. I look good against air 98 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 4: when I play basketball. That doesn't mean much. Then you 99 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 4: put a defender in my face and it all goes 100 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 4: to hell. So I think he's in a good place 101 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 4: right now. I don't think there's any question about it 102 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 4: how much he plays. I mean, eventually he was going 103 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 4: to get on the field. I think one of the 104 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 4: under the radar things that have gone on with this 105 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 4: and this timeline when you talk about maybe giving him 106 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 4: a little bit of extra time. The defense is playing 107 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 4: really well. You know, if they were getting shredded the 108 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 4: last month, maybe they try and rush it a little 109 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 4: bit more. But when you're in a position they're in, 110 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 4: which is they've given up one defensive touchdown the last 111 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 4: three games, I think it is and they've looked pretty 112 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 4: good defensively since well, I guess it is the last 113 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 4: three games. The Miami game, they gave some stuff up, 114 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 4: but that was still kind of early in the process 115 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 4: for Robinson. I mean, I understand why you might be 116 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 4: willing to take a little bit more time, and I 117 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 4: think it's worked out well. I think they could probably 118 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 4: use him against Minnesota. And this is you're playing the 119 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 4: long game with this guy. You're playing the long game. 120 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 4: I know everybody wants him out there, and I know 121 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 4: there's maybe the Cardinals are a little bit ahead of 122 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 4: schedule in terms of maybe making the playoffs this season 123 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 4: or winning the division. But he's in his first year. 124 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 4: You do not want to jack something up in his 125 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 4: first year knowing that he's supposed to be your guy 126 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,799 Speaker 4: for like the next five to eight. 127 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: Years, or you bring him back too soon all of 128 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: a sudden, it costs you the rest of this season 129 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: and perhaps an offseason in which you would hope that 130 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: he's available during the offseason to get some extra work out. 131 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 4: You don't want him to be You're Kevin Durant, No, 132 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 4: we do not want that Golden State Kevin Durant, not 133 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 4: Phoenix Suns. 134 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: Kevin, I appreciate you clarifying that I'm here for the 135 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: people Cardinals at the Vikings on Sunday. That is an 136 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: eleven a m K six thirty pre game on the 137 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. A little bit later on, we'll 138 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: have a conversation with Kevin Seafert. He covers the Vikings 139 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: for ESPN dot com to get the Minnesota side of 140 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: things for this week thirteen matchup here in the NFL. 141 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: But the other injury item or player that we are 142 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: expecting to return is Jalen Thompson coming back after missing 143 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: two games with an ankle issue. And the conversation, it 144 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: was your question to JG on Friday, all right, Yeah, 145 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: it's great, Jalen Thompson is coming back. You pair him 146 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: with Budda Baker. They look great as a secondary. However, 147 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: in those two games, a JT has not been on 148 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: the football field. Rabbit has played every single snap, has 149 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: played very well. But JT comes back, what happens with 150 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: rabbit snap count? 151 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would anticipate it dropping off a cliff. And 152 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 4: you know, if you're a rookie, especially if you've been 153 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 4: playing okay, you it's probably a little bit of a 154 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 4: mental hurdle you have to get over saying, hey, I'm 155 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 4: in there, I'm playing one. But Jalen Thompson is the veteran, 156 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 4: He's got a long history of being good. And you've 157 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 4: got an abundance of defensive backs right now. That's a 158 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 4: good thing. For the most part. You're probably gonna have 159 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 4: some decisions you're gonna need to make in the offseason 160 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 4: in terms of where your roster is. But considering where 161 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 4: the secondary was and the questions when Jonathan Gannon took 162 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 4: over of what the defensive backs room was going to 163 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 4: look like and how it could proceed and how you're 164 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 4: going to build it back up, I think they've done 165 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 4: a pretty nice job with that. 166 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: When it comes to playing rookies, this is what JG said, quote, 167 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: we put on the field whoever we think gives us 168 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: the best chance to win. And then he mentioned that 169 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: he does not mind playing young guys because this is 170 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: a coaching staff that believes if you have a spot 171 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: on this roster, whether it's the fifty three or the 172 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: practice squad, there's a reason you're here, and they have 173 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: no hesitation. JG's big on saying roles change weekly. 174 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 5: Maybe endgame. So you're here for a reason. 175 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: We're going to play you, not hope that you develop 176 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: while the season is going on. 177 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 4: And I would think that given the circumstances, the as 178 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 4: we like to say, the culture that they've built up. 179 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 4: One of the things when you talk about culture is 180 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 4: understanding playing time can change, roles can change, and dealing 181 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 4: with that on a mature level, whether you're a rookie 182 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 4: or not, and understanding, hey, I might get a bunch 183 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 4: of snaps now and when Jalen comes back, they might 184 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 4: not be there, for instance. So I think one of 185 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 4: the ways you build up your team is making sure 186 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 4: that everybody understands it's a week to week thing and 187 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 4: what might happen and how they might go about it. 188 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 4: And we'll see what happens. I think the secondary is 189 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 4: going to be another spotlight this week because the Vikings 190 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 4: have a very nice receiving core, they have a very 191 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 4: good tight end, and Sam Darnold has played better than 192 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 4: you would think, so they're going to be tested. 193 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: I would think Vikings have won four straight, they're nine 194 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: and two and very good at home, and that it's 195 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: an environment that you wrote about on Easycardinals dot Com. 196 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: How familiar this Cardinals coaching staff is with where they're 197 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: headed to on Sunday at US Bank Stadium. Seven different coaches, 198 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: including the head coach, both coordinators, and the head strength 199 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: and conditioning coach. 200 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 3: This is. 201 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: I would hope. I wouldn't say an advantage, but at 202 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: least you can talk about what to expect. You ultimately 203 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: are going to experience the loudness of it, and you 204 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: can only do so much on the practice field before 205 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: you get to get to go on game day and 206 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: really kind of. 207 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 5: Immerse yourself in that. 208 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: But I do believe familiarity will help as far as 209 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: the planning. It's just a matter of the execution falls 210 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: on the players come Sunday. 211 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 4: I still think, no matter what happened in Seattle, I 212 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 4: still think this is a team that understands the road 213 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 4: and understand some of the things that are that can 214 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 4: be against it. And I thought defensively, obviously they handled 215 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 4: it wonderfully against the Seahawks. Offensively, there was a little 216 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 4: bit of a concern, but I mean, to me, it 217 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 4: was less about the noise and more about the pass 218 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 4: rush of Leonard Williams and the Seahawks, And can you 219 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 4: you know the differences with the Vikings is you have 220 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 4: more of a schemed up kind of look. You don't have, 221 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 4: you know, a T. J. Watt that you're worried about necessarily, 222 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 4: But that doesn't mean you don't have guys that get 223 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 4: home and they get home because Brian Flores knows how 224 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 4: to move his guys around and how to put him 225 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 4: in good situations. And you know, it feels like having 226 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 4: watched a little bit of the Vikings over the Lack 227 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 4: the past month or so, the teams that have the 228 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 4: most successful offensively are the ones that when they're throwing 229 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 4: the ball, they understand they got to get that ball 230 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 4: out right away and you know where you're going, pre 231 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 4: snap and get and you get that pass off. That's 232 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 4: that's what the Lions did when they beat the Vikings. 233 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 4: That's what the Bears did for the most part, even 234 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 4: though they lost the Vikings in overtime, when they start 235 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 4: having success through the air, they didn't give that, you know, 236 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 4: they didn't give that scheme a chance to really gel 237 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 4: on any particular play. You get the ball out and go. 238 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: And that's why Sam Donald's been so successful this season, 239 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: why the Vikings are nine and two this season. Again, 240 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: the kickoff coming up on Sunday eleven am six point thirty. 241 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: The pregame coverage begins on the Arizona Cardinals Radio radio network. 242 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: As I mentioned earlier, we had the chance to speak 243 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: with ESPN's Kevin Seaffert. Let's give his thoughts on Sunday's matchup. 244 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: Let's start here, Kevin sam Donald. You wrote on ESPN 245 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: this week that he delivered his signature moment with the 246 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: Vikings with the ot win against the Bears. Why has 247 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: he been so good this season? 248 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 3: It's a combination of things, and it's really I think 249 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 3: the biggest picture answer I can give is that it's 250 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 3: a testament to the different amounts of time it takes 251 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 3: for a quarterback to get it. And I think that's 252 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 3: the number one reason why Sam has played as well 253 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 3: as he has this year. There's no doubt that he 254 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:16,479 Speaker 3: has benefited from having a quarterback friendly coach and Kevin O'Connell. 255 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 3: Josh McCown is the quarterbacks coach here. You guys might 256 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 3: know him, and Sam Darnold knows him. They were teammates 257 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 3: in New York. There's a ton of really good receivers 258 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 3: and some good pass protection on the offensive line, which 259 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 3: is all helped, but I think it just is a 260 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: reminder that, like sometimes when you see quarterbacks struggle early 261 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 3: in their career, it's not the end of the story 262 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 3: if people are patient and willing enough to kind of 263 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 3: wait for that experience to build up to the point 264 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: where he can be successful. 265 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 4: I think, Kevin, you know, we all have been around 266 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 4: this game long enough that it's a quarterback driven league. 267 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 4: So when your quarterback is playing well, that's going to 268 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 4: make a big difference. I think from Afar going into 269 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 4: the season and and and kind of where it's gone 270 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 4: till now compared to expectations before started. It feels like 271 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 4: for an outsider, we're talking about Sam Darnold, justin Jefferson 272 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 4: and Brian Fullor is doing great things with a defense 273 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 4: that might not have a lot of big names that 274 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 4: I know, that's incredibly simplistic. How close is that to 275 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 4: why they are where they are and what are some 276 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 4: of the other factors that have gotten this team in 277 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 4: nine wins when it felt like nobody thought they would 278 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 4: be in this position. 279 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I might even reverse the order there, Like 280 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 3: I actually think if I had to pick one reason 281 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 3: why there has why they have been as good as 282 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 3: they have been over all the team, it's the defense. 283 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 3: I mean, the defense, by a lot of measures, is 284 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 3: genuinely the best defense in the league in terms of 285 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 3: you know, efficiency, and in terms of DVOA and and 286 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 3: just the just the play by play basis that they 287 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 3: tend to in the beginning of the year confused quarterbacks 288 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 3: and this, and sort of in the middle towards now 289 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 3: of the season, just get after them from a sack 290 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 3: perspective and a takeaway perspective. There in the top five 291 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 3: in the league and both of those things. And so 292 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 3: they continue to have make a ton of plays for 293 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: the most part, whole teams to reasonable scoring levels that 294 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 3: an offense that is probably fairly ranked in the middle 295 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 3: of the league in terms of overall effectiveness is able 296 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 3: to score enough points to win most of these games. 297 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 3: And so none of that happens if the quarterback was 298 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 3: a disaster, and Sam Donald's been nowhere close to that, 299 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 3: so that's certainly helped. But if I had, and I've 300 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 3: been saying this for most of the season, if I 301 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 3: had to pick one reason why this team is so good, 302 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 3: it's actually been the the the play and the continued 303 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: success of the defense, and you mentioned Darnold and Justin Jefferson, 304 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: and what's happened over the probably the past month is 305 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 3: that's expanded to Jordan Addison, who was their first round 306 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 3: draft pick last year but had some ankle injuries early 307 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 3: in the year and is just now rounding in the 308 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 3: shape and had one hundred and sixty some yard game 309 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 3: in Chicago last week. TJ Hockinson, who spent most of 310 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 3: the offseason rehabbing an ACL tear, didn't come back until 311 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 3: Week seven. He just had his first real big game 312 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 3: since coming back in Chicago as well. He had one 313 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 3: hundred and fifteen receiving yards. And so they've really been 314 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 3: able to augment the skill around Sam Darnold on offense 315 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 3: even as the season has continued, and that's played a 316 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 3: role as well. 317 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 4: Going to that defense, which I'm sure Cardinal fans are 318 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 4: going to love to hear about. After the offense for 319 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 4: the Cardinals struggled so much in Seattle and now you're 320 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 4: going to play arguably a better defense. Where's the pass 321 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 4: rush coming from? You You just mentioned their top five 322 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 4: in sacks. Obviously, when they lost Hunter, everybody was kind 323 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 4: of like, Okay, this is might be a step back, 324 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 4: so obviously it hasn't been where's that coming from. 325 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 3: Well, the two big sack guys this year have been 326 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 3: free agent signings. They had Jonathan Garnard from Houston. He's 327 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 3: at nine sacks, and Andrew Van Ginkel, who played for 328 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 3: Brian Flores in Miami, is also at eight sacks now. 329 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 3: And so they those two guys especially and their edge rushers, 330 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 3: but they haven't There haven't been a ton of sacks 331 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 3: where it's just like one of those beacher guys and 332 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,719 Speaker 3: you just hit the quarterback from behind in one second. 333 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 3: A lot of the sacks that they've been able to 334 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 3: accumulate have been a result of quarterbacks taking a little 335 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 3: bit too long to process the scheme that Brian Flores 336 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 3: has put out there for that particular play, so it 337 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 3: gives those guys a little bit longer. Sometimes we've seen 338 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 3: quarterbacks kind of trying to manipulate the pocket a little 339 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 3: bit and they run right into one of those guys. 340 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 3: And so they've been great pass rushers, but it's also 341 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 3: been augmented by the fact that quarterbacks, the most part 342 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 3: have struggled to find their first read and throw. It's 343 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 3: been a little bit of an unrhythmic outcome for many 344 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 3: of those guys, and when teams have had success against 345 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 3: the Vikings defense, it's you know, you saw it last 346 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 3: week with Caleb Williams. Actually it's just a lot of 347 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 3: one two step throw, you know, plays that don't allow 348 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 3: for that pass rush to accelerate and don't really fall 349 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 3: for some of the tricks that the defense and the 350 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 3: defensive backs especially are doing to try to disguise coverage. 351 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: One player on that Vikings defense that Cardinals fans will 352 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: remember is cornerback Byron Murphy, who's playing very very well 353 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: this season. Four interceptions, eight passes defense, five tackles for loss. 354 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: How is he kind of maybe found a footing in 355 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: that Viking secondary. 356 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 3: He's it's been a good year for him. He's been 357 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 3: able to use his ball skills, which I think are 358 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,479 Speaker 3: really good and maybe we're underrated or maybe he's developed 359 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 3: them over the past year, So I'm not just certain. 360 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 3: But when a ball's up in the air, he's tracking 361 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 3: it as well as anybody on their team. He's benefited 362 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 3: from the fact that they signed Stefan Gilmour to be 363 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 3: a cornerback in August, right before the season started, and 364 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 3: so Stefan is probably to the extent that they use 365 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 3: like a quote unquote number one cornerback, He's probably that guy. 366 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 3: And that's given, you know, taking a little bit of 367 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 3: the pressure off Byron I think, and allowed him to 368 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 3: thrive in the things that he does really well. And so, yes, 369 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: you're right, he's had a major impact. He's won some 370 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 3: games with his interceptions, and he also had a really 371 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 3: important force fumble against the Packers way back in September 372 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 3: the end of the month there that they won in 373 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 3: lambeau Field. So he's made a big impact on them 374 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 3: being able to win some of these games. 375 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 4: How much Kevin did the Cam Robinson trade kind of 376 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 4: save the offense to an extent. I mean, do you 377 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 4: think the offense is still doing as well as it 378 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 4: is if he hadn't been able to find a veteran 379 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 4: to plug in there? 380 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 3: No, And that was like that was near miraculous. I 381 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 3: remember when Christian Darrisaw who was their left tackle, went down, 382 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 3: just thinking like there's just no way they can go 383 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 3: out and find somebody on the street and or trade 384 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 3: for somebody that actually can play left tackle. And it 385 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 3: turns out that the circumstances in Jacksonville were such that 386 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 3: they were willing to part with him for not much, 387 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 3: and so he has been dealing with a foot injury, 388 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 3: and he left the game in Chicago and didn't come 389 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 3: back after the sort of the first quarter. So they 390 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 3: end up using David Quaessenberry, who's a veteran and sort 391 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 3: of their swing guy, and he played most of the game. 392 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 3: And there's a step down when it goes to that point, 393 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 3: but that would be the case for most teams, and 394 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 3: so I it'll be interesting to see whether they can 395 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 3: get Cam back for this game or if they're going 396 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 3: to be looking at a game where David Quesnberry has 397 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,719 Speaker 3: to play left tackle. But I think you're right. I 398 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 3: think if they had just had to use their swing 399 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,719 Speaker 3: tackle at left tackle for the remainder of the season, 400 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 3: that would have definitely changed the way they could play offense. 401 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of focus on Justin Jefferson, and 402 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: you brought up Jordan Addison and TJ. 403 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 5: Hockinson. 404 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,239 Speaker 1: But Aaron Jones, I know the numbers as far as 405 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: consistency maybe not great, But how well he was able 406 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: to run against the Bears last week. How much do 407 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 1: you think maybe that Vikings offense now becomes a little 408 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: bit more balanced here late in December and into January. 409 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 3: I think it's possible there. You know that Chicago is 410 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 3: one of the few outdoor games that they have in 411 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 3: bad weather, and that wasn't the better. The weather was 412 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 3: not that bad. I think they have a Seattle game 413 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 3: in next month that the weather could potentially be bad 414 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 3: and they'd have to rely on the running game. But 415 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 3: Aaron Jones has been has been really good both in 416 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 3: the run and the pass. You know, he was hurt 417 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 3: in their Week five game. He had a sort of 418 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 3: a hip hamstring type deal in that game and they 419 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 3: probably wouldn't have played the following week if they didn't 420 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 3: have their buy. And he's been dealing with some rib injury. 421 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 3: So and that's kind of his history is that he's 422 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: you know, gets banged up. You know, he plays running backs. 423 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 3: Running backs get banged up, and we know that. And 424 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 3: so he's probably not been as elusive in the in 425 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 3: this little stretch of games here that he was in 426 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 3: the beginning, but still you know, very much showing up 427 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 3: very much on tape. You can see the impact he 428 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 3: has and the big he's just he's just one of 429 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 3: those running backs that can I call it slithering, you know, 430 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 3: finds a way to like just whatever many yards that 431 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 3: the play is blocked up for, he can find another 432 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 3: one or two or more. And so it doesn't sound 433 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 3: that exciting, but when you stack a four yard run 434 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 3: and a five yard run and it's should have been 435 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 3: a two yard run and a three yard run, that 436 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 3: that adds up over time. And that's really been the impact. 437 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 3: And it hasn't been like a ton of touchdowns or 438 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 3: a ton of big, huge plays. We've seen a couple 439 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 3: where he's broken, you know, for either a touchdown or 440 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 3: he had the forty yard run at the beginning of 441 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 3: the game in Chicago, but really it's just the play 442 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 3: by play basis that he just adds a little bit 443 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 3: more than the play otherwise would have gotten, and that 444 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 3: were a lot of his value has been. 445 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 4: So how annoyed are the Minnesota fans that, like, you know, 446 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 4: the Vikings are nine and two, You're having this really 447 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 4: good season, but the Lions aren't losing, the Packers aren't losing. 448 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 4: I mean, nu's is that annoying to them? 449 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 3: I think it was the reason why the expectations for 450 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 3: this team were not that high. To begin with, and 451 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 3: even in town, it's like if everybody knew the Lions 452 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 3: were really good, everybody knew the Packers are going to 453 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 3: be really good, and the assumption would be that the 454 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 3: Vikings would be on the receiving end of that, and 455 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 3: that as they would not have as good of a 456 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 3: record as they could potentially have for several reasons, but 457 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 3: the big one of them being that that it was 458 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 3: such a tough division. And so I think they're at 459 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 3: least probably as surprised as they are annoyed that the 460 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 3: Vikings are still in this mix. And like right now, 461 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 3: the game ahead of the half, yeah, full game ahead 462 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 3: of the Packers in the standings, and and there's a 463 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 3: game against them to go, in, a game against the 464 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 3: Lions still to go, in another game against the Bears 465 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 3: to go. But they everybody here knew that this was 466 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 3: going to be really tough. I think that the surprising 467 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: turn is that it hasn't really come down on the 468 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 3: Vikings as much as they thought it would. 469 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: Vikings have one four in a row and as Darren mentioned, 470 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: nine and two on the season. Kevin Seaffert covers the 471 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: Vikings for ESPN, and according to the Twitter profile, here 472 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: Darren quote underrated good guy. 473 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think he's very underrated. 474 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 3: That's true. 475 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 4: Yes, I mean I think I think he's taking it 476 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 4: up a notch a little bit now that he doesn't 477 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 4: write just about the officials anymore. All that, you know, 478 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 4: I will say Kevin, like, I just want to say 479 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 4: thank you for making sure that you guys do have 480 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 4: an indoor stadium. I noticed that you guys are dialing 481 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 4: up the whatever it is six degrees low and an 482 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 4: eighteen degree high for Sunday for when we arrive, you know, 483 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 4: during our eighty degrees a day thing right for us. 484 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 4: I mean, you guys are turning down a thermstack quite 485 00:24:58,760 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 4: a bit. 486 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 3: We had a very mild and warm fall, which if 487 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 3: I told you the temperatures, you would necessarily agree with 488 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 3: those two mild and warm words. But it really was, 489 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 3: and it's just starting to turn into winter now, and 490 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 3: so I would not I'm not sure where you guys 491 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 3: are staying. I would not recommend a long walk to 492 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 3: the stadium this weekend. Make sure you get dropped off 493 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 3: by the door. 494 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 4: I'm just excited I have I think I have one 495 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 4: heavy coat and I usually use it like twice a year, 496 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 4: and this will be one of those times. 497 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 3: You should You should just leave it here and then 498 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 3: then use it here whenever you come here for a 499 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 3: game every few years. 500 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: Kevin appreciated good stuff. Look forward to this game on Sunday. 501 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 3: Okay, we'll see you Sunday. 502 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: Appreciate Kevin giving us a couple of minutes here on 503 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two. 504 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 5: And I forgot. 505 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: I'm glad Kevin brought it up. I forgot about Josh 506 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: McCown on the Vikings coaching staff four seasons with the 507 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:49,719 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. 508 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 5: And that's that's I know, one of. 509 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 4: Million years ago. 510 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: Yes, I know, one of your favorites, if not the 511 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: favorite to the Cardinals uniform and someone that you wish 512 00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: nothing but the best, just maybe not. 513 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 4: No, I mean Josh. Josh is a guy that covered 514 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 4: when he was drafted back with the Cardinals a long, 515 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 4: long time ago. He went through the whole Denny Green 516 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 4: regime change. We had the mccount of pool against the Vikings. 517 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 4: By the way, you know, there was considering Josh's career 518 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 4: was relatively short and relatively uneventful as a Cardinals, He's 519 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 4: got a place in my heart in terms of the 520 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 4: guys that I've covered. Even now, you know, when I 521 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 4: reach out to him from time to time, he's still there. 522 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 4: He's still got the same phone number that he did 523 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 4: when he was a rookie in two thousand and two. 524 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 4: So Josh is a great guy. But yeah, I'm hoping 525 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 4: that whatever magic he's been weaving with Sam Darnold, it 526 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 4: all goes to hell at least for one game. 527 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: What we did not talk to Kevin about on the 528 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: quarterback fronts is the news that was anticipated prior to 529 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: us talking with Kevin as Daniel Jones being signed to 530 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 1: the Vikings the squad. Why did we not ask about it, Well, 531 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: because even Kevin told us that, hey, you get signed 532 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: to the practice squad. This was not going to be 533 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: a player the Cardinals needed to worry about this week. 534 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 4: Again, Daniel, if you're the Vikings and you're signing Daniel Jones, 535 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 4: it's Sam Donald your guy. What you don't want is 536 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 4: a magical season that the Vikings are currently having when 537 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 4: a lot of people thought they weren't going to have 538 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 4: a very good season. You don't want it to turn 539 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 4: into Cardinals twenty fourteen, where you've got a really good 540 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,719 Speaker 4: team and then you have some quarterback injuries and then 541 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 4: you're put in a bad spot this way, not that 542 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 4: Daniel Jones is the second coming of anything, but now 543 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 4: if something for the Vikings, god forbid, happens to Sam Darnald, 544 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 4: and who thought we'd ever say that, then you still 545 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 4: have an experienced quarterback who's actually played in the playoffs, 546 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 4: and he could potentially step in and make sure that 547 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 4: all the work that you've put in doesn't necessarily have 548 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 4: to go to hell. 549 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: Bringing this back to the Cardinals, Carson Palmer goes down, 550 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: Drew Stanton goes down, and it's Ryan Lindsley. 551 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 5: Linley playing on the road at Carolina. I was there. 552 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: You are at least with the Vikings, Yeah, you have 553 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: Nick Mallins, but now you probably have an upgrade with 554 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. 555 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 4: Ye hope. 556 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: But I think Daniel Jones is looking this at as 557 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: a long term get some coaching and then going to 558 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: the offseason and find out, Okay, where can I go 559 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: perhaps either be the starter or compete to be the starter. 560 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 4: No, there's no question about that, and put them in 561 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 4: a place where he can go to the postseason and 562 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: not just go to a team right now. And I 563 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 4: understand all those things. And again, Kevin O'Connell has proven 564 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 4: to be a great and Josh McCown has proven to 565 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 4: be great with quarterbacks. And you know, if you're Daniel 566 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 4: Jones and you see what Sam Darnold is doing after 567 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 4: he left New York, why wouldn't you, as Daniel Jones, 568 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 4: want to leave New York and get that same kind 569 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 4: of coaching. 570 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: Any worry as we kind of look at this matchup 571 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: on Sunday on how the Cardinals looked offensively the run 572 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: game and now facing the number one run defense in 573 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: the league. 574 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 4: I mean, worries a strong word, you know, I don't 575 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 4: I My feeling is that it was it was a 576 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 4: one off the struggles. 577 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: The struggles overall offensively. 578 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 4: It felt a little bit like that. I mean, I 579 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 4: know nobody wants to talk about it, but it did, 580 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 4: unfortunately feel a little bit like up, you were doing 581 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 4: well and then you had time off, and now you 582 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 4: little looked a little rusty. 583 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 5: That's an easy narrative, it is. 584 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 4: I think I'm curious to see if they I think 585 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 4: they're going to want to re establish the run absolutely, 586 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 4: and I think they have a chance to do it. 587 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 4: I think the Vikings are a good defense. I look 588 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 4: at some of the teams they've played of late. I 589 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 4: think a few of the games they've gotten ahead and 590 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 4: then teams have to pass to come back. I mean, 591 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 4: their most recent game was the Bears. Was the Bears. Yeah, 592 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 4: and the Bears are throwing all over the place just 593 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 4: to get back in that game. You know you're gonna 594 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 4: stop running it eventually. That doesn't mean the Vikings aren't good. 595 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 4: But I do not expect the Cardinals to have such 596 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 4: a tough time running the ball this time around. That's 597 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 4: what I would think. 598 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: And you're not gonna contain James Connor two games. 599 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 5: In a row. 600 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 4: You wouldn't think. 601 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: So that's just to me one. I don't think he 602 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: would allow it. I just this team bounces back agree 603 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: real well after losses, and I think there's individuals in 604 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: that locker room that will say enough is enough and 605 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: we need to play better now. 606 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 5: Is that gonna mean they're gonna win? 607 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, Yeah, but I'm saying it's gonna 608 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: look a heck of a lot better. You're gonna score 609 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: more than six points offensively and give yourself a chance 610 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. 611 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 4: Well, and again when you start talking about the Vikings. 612 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 4: The Vikings have won a lot of games, but it's 613 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 4: not like they're whacking people. I mean, a lot of 614 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 4: their wins have been close, and that's the league, but 615 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 4: it is not. Look, the Cardinals are where they are 616 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 4: right now for a reason. They are are above five 617 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 4: hundred for a reason. They've won some road games against 618 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 4: good teams for a reason. So I the idea that 619 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 4: they're walking into some kind of buzzsaw I just don't buy. 620 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 4: I think I'm with you. I think the Seattle game 621 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 4: was you played, if you played it again this week, 622 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 4: it definitely wouldn't look like that. 623 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: But we'll see what you'd hope doesn't happen. Is as 624 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: much talk as there was post Seattle about the rematch, 625 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, this team is thinking about, 626 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: all right, maybe this game on Sunday is not nearly 627 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: as important as the one following at State Farm Stadium 628 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: when you face the Seahawks for the second time. Now, 629 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: that's easy for us to discuss and the fans to discuss. 630 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: I haven't since that in the locker room, but that 631 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: can be something that I can sense happening post game. 632 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: If all of a sudden is Okay, well, hey we're 633 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: six and six doesn't look good. But everything we want 634 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: is still in front of us, and we still have 635 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: three more division games. 636 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 4: Well, ay, that's true. Yes, I mean part of the 637 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 4: reason it would be talked about is because it's true. Now, 638 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 4: if they go out and they score six points and 639 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 4: they can't run the ball, it's going to be about 640 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 4: more than that. There's gonna be some warning bells going 641 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 4: off if you have another performance offensively this week, knowing 642 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 4: that you've got to play Seattle again. But again, like 643 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 4: we said, I don't know if that's going to happen. 644 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 4: I think Jonathan Gannon his coaching staff do a really 645 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 4: good job of focusing their team on a week to 646 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 4: week basis. I fully expect some kind of rebound again, 647 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 4: Like I'm with you, I don't think that guarantees of victory, 648 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 4: but I don't expect them to play as poorly offensively 649 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 4: as they did last week. Have you packed not yet? 650 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 5: Not yet? No winter clothes? 651 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: Break out that jacket as you told Kevin that you 652 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: have where about what once a year, twice a year. 653 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 4: Year beautiful pea coat that I bought last year. I 654 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 4: think I wore it one time to Chicago. I think 655 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 4: I think I might. I think I took it to 656 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 4: Philly too. Philly and Chicago was pretty chilly. But it's 657 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 4: supposed to be a think the low on Saturday night 658 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 4: when we get in it is supposed to be nine degrees. 659 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 4: And again, the game's inside, so you know, Paul keeps 660 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 4: talking about how he doesn't care about anything, and he's 661 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 4: gonna go short sleeve and no jacket maybe, but uh yeah, 662 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 4: I'm gonna it's we still got to get from the 663 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 4: plane over to the bus and we maybe we're only 664 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 4: outside for thirty seconds, but that's along thirty seconds at 665 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 4: nine degrees. 666 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 5: Well, enjoy it. I'll talk to you on Sunday. 667 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 4: Will you. Oh yeah, you will, yeah, I will. 668 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 5: Have you not looked at your schedule yet. 669 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 4: I'm a day to day. I'm day to day or 670 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 4: day to day. 671 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 5: Okay, you're Darius Robinson. You're day to day. We'll get 672 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 5: to Sunday. When we get to Sunday, day to day. 673 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: Well, this is fun. We'll have to see if the 674 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: bird Gang thought it was fun. Whether we get you 675 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: back in here or not. And based off your schedule 676 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: and how busy you are. It might be more difficult 677 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: as a season progresses and this team is looking at, 678 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: you know, playoff games and deep into the playoff run 679 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. 680 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 4: So I'm looking to Wally pip the hell out of 681 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 4: whoever you have in the seat. 682 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 5: Usually that is tremendous. We'll have to let Zach know 683 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 5: about that when you return next week. If he does. 684 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 4: Appreciate it, I am. I don't discriminate, No, that we 685 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 4: do know appreciate it. 686 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: Darren, we will talk and here from Darren coming up 687 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: on Sunday, and of course you can follow him at 688 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: cards Chatter. It must follow as we all know here 689 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: Burt game. On that note, we'll put a lot on 690 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: This edition of Cardinals. Cover two, presented by Hyundai, proud 691 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals, has always special thanks to 692 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: our executive producer Jim Mama Hunter, our associate producer Coddy Fincher. 693 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: For Darren Orban, I'm Craig Rayolou. We'll talk to you 694 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: next time here on Cardinals Cover two.