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Speaker 3: Well, the first question I'm going to ask myself every

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Back forty.

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Speaker 5: I'm Jake Koefer, and we're here with another episode where

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Speaker 5: if you are a white deal hunter and you plant

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Speaker 5: So we've done five other episodes here previously. If you

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Speaker 5: haven't seen those, go check those out. But right now,

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Speaker 5: where are you going to talk about how to potentially

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Speaker 5: salvage your food plot. Maybe you're so far behind and

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Speaker 5: you have a better weeds right now, and you want

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Speaker 5: to know how can I get a food plot in

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Speaker 5: Helped to hear good throughout the winner and anyone that

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Speaker 5: has planet food plots understands that stuff breaks down, Things

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Speaker 4: Get the weather you need.

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Speaker 5: And the guys that are helping answer this question have

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Speaker 5: experienced probably every curveball that you can imagine. So we

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Speaker 5: and ask the question, my food plots look like crap?

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Speaker 4: What do I do now?

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Speaker 5: And we're going to kick things off with skip slide.

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Speaker 5: All right, it's September third. I just went and looked

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Speaker 4: My food plot failed. I am nervous. It's September. What

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Speaker 1: Oh? This is easy?

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Speaker 2: to do this, but that's the perfect timing to plant

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Speaker 2: that mix. You know, if you're like, hey, I'm more

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Speaker 2: like glye glye and ammonium sulfate. Quickly kill it off

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Speaker 2: But I mean, that's a perfect time.

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Speaker 1: To go plant.

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Speaker 2: If you got a drill, rye, piece, oats, critical, maybe

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Speaker 2: suning season in so many other ways. So yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: if somebody's like I just planted rye, maybe I've seen

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Speaker 2: I've seen all those things, but I've never seen it

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Speaker 2: But you know, late August through any time in September,

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Speaker 1: And I definitely would do that. But now you're set.

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Speaker 2: For like long term, so that one planning can really

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a no brainer, easy, easy, Or if you're

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Speaker 5: That's what Skip has to say. He has saved a

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Speaker 5: that text him, Hey, what do I do? And so

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Speaker 6: You know, there's still a lot you can do if

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Speaker 6: take something like two and a half quarts break or

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Speaker 6: of Liberty ultra, add two pounds ammonium sulfate to it

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Speaker 6: just combine that all together, and then I'll smoke out

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Speaker 6: just about any weed that you have a problem with.

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Speaker 6: And the really cool thing about Liberty and glyphasate is

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Speaker 6: We'll just move these dates back about two three weeks

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Speaker 3: A month that I'm talking about.

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Speaker 6: So let's say you're in the Upper Midwest, it's the

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Speaker 6: I'm going to go about three hundred pounds of rye

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Speaker 6: First you want to just use rye, I probably go

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Speaker 6: But the point is is that it's not too late

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Speaker 6: Who cares it's green? Just forget about it. Things happen

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Speaker 5: Next up we have Don Higgins Don owns the seed

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Speaker 4: What do I do?

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Speaker 3: Now what?

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Speaker 5: And maybe this is a spring food plot that didn't work,

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Speaker 4: So what do I do now?

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Speaker 8: Well, September first, throughout most of the country, you've still

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Speaker 8: it made me the first time. I don't know what

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Speaker 8: you can just go over and oversee that with some

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Speaker 8: or adish something like that and produce more tonnage of

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Speaker 4: The later it gets into september.

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Speaker 5: How important in your opinion is that to add to

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Speaker 8: Well, I don't think increasing the seeding rate is that

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Speaker 8: it's going to turn green, sprout same way out in

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Speaker 8: are not. You know, turnips and radish are not that

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Speaker 4: That's why they're so easy.

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Speaker 8: The bigger seeds, you know, like you get into the

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Speaker 8: But some of these other seeds you can happen right

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Speaker 5: Next up, we have Bobby Kendall, and maybe you've wondered

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Speaker 5: Here we go, it's September first. Either I didn't get

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Speaker 5: They look like garbage, It looks like a weed patch.

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Speaker 5: Where do I start?

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Speaker 4: Is there anything I can do?

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Speaker 4: Clovers.

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Speaker 9: So those clovers obviously are not going to really produce

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Speaker 4: It's food all year long. It's really good nutrition.

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Speaker 9: And that way you don't run into that problem because

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Speaker 9: But if I'm just doing straight cereal grains and maybe

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Speaker 1: Do that like September twentieth.

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Speaker 9: Every year it seems like it's later and later.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, So that those little seeds, you know, the cereal

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Speaker 9: I'll go in there and I'll mow off this junk

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Speaker 9: No, And the other big thing for people to be

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Speaker 9: So the next spring with stuff starts growing, you know,

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Speaker 4: Great tip.

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Speaker 5: But the biggest question is for you to find out

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Speaker 4: Right?

436
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,439
Speaker 3: What can we learn from this failure to prevent it

437
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 3: from happening in the future. You know, if I get

438
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,160
Speaker 3: the phone call someone asking me if why my food

439
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,439
Speaker 3: plots fail, usually I'm on the chopping block, right. So

440
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,439
Speaker 3: we're always trying to analyze or analyze the situation as

441
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,880
Speaker 3: much as possible. But that's why we look at first

442
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,159
Speaker 3: it was a bad prep you know, did you not

443
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 3: have a soil test, was a bad seed was it

444
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,679
Speaker 3: bad timing, you know, bad seed bed, whatever it might be,

445
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 3: there's a there's a million things that can go wrong

446
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 3: when you're trying to create life, you know, especially late summertime.

447
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 3: It's just not the perfect conditions for stuff like that.

448
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,159
Speaker 3: So timing is a big one. You know, if that

449
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,919
Speaker 3: was the timing, maybe you planted a little bit too late.

450
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,639
Speaker 3: You should have planted a week or two earlier to

451
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 3: get that rain. Or maybe you planted a week or

452
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 3: two too early again when there wasn't rain, or a

453
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 3: little bit of rain and a drought. You know, it's

454
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 3: a it's a crap shoot in the fall. It can

455
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 3: really be a struggle. There's things that you can do

456
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 3: to mitigate those issues. Retain more soil moisture, better food

457
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 3: plot practices, all of those things but I'm going to

458
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 3: look at why it failed. Maybe it was deer browse pressure.

459
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 3: Get utilization cages out. I've had that happen in form properties.

460
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 3: A client calls me, food plots look like crap.

461
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 4: Blow.

462
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 3: We did everything right. Why did they not work? The

463
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 3: deer browse pressure was so high that they were nipping

464
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 3: almost every plant off right at ground level before they

465
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 3: could even grow, you know, establish themselves at all. So

466
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 3: all these things we need to learn. Why. Now, if

467
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 3: you failed, what can we do short term to make

468
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 3: the most of this season. It is never too late

469
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 3: to plant cereal rye. A cereal rye. It's going to

470
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Speaker 3: do a couple of things for you. It's going to

471
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 3: first and foremost, it's going to provide a green food

472
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 3: source for those deer as long as there's moisture in

473
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 3: the forecast. Cereal rye with Germany at like thirty seven

474
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 3: degrees fahrenheit, it'll grow as soon as it hits the forties.

475
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 3: If there's any moisture in the forecast, put down cereal rye.

476
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 3: You can't put too much, and you can't put it

477
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 3: down it almost can't put it down too late. The

478
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 3: second thing that's going to do is. It's going to

479
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 3: help improve your food plot for the following year. Next spring,

480
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 3: it's going to come back, it's going to green up again.

481
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 3: It's going to help retain soil moisture. You can roll

482
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 3: it down, you can mow it down, you can burn

483
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 3: it off, you can do all sorts of things. It's

484
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 3: going to help reduce weeds. That's going to help you

485
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 3: reduce your chemical input. That's going to help improve the

486
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 3: soil microbiome. That's going to help retain soil moisture. That's

487
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 3: going to help you know, all of these things come

488
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 3: into play. Obviously, I keep on circling back in the

489
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 3: moisture thing because I would say that's usually the biggest failure,

490
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 3: and it's it's not us. I mean it is in

491
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 3: some regard, right, It goes back to the timing thing.

492
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 3: But we are farmers, right, we have to deal with

493
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 3: mother nature. And there's a reason why you don't see

494
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 3: very many farmers planting crops in July or August. Right,

495
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 3: So you can save it, can salvage it, but really

496
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 3: focus on better long term food plating practices, and ultimately

497
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 3: all this stuff comes back around and just having a

498
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 3: good plan, A good plan you know, and I'm guilty

499
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 3: of this myself, where you're prioritizing other things. I'll be

500
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 3: food plotting all all of July, and then oh, I

501
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 3: should probably still do something with mine, right, So it's

502
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 3: kind of low on the priority list for me a

503
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 3: lot of times. But that's a big one. And now

504
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 3: the second thing, which is maybe a little bit abstract

505
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 3: from the question itself, is you shouldn't be relying on

506
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 3: food plots that much anyway. You really shouldn't. You know,

507
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 3: there's a lot of guys that half the property is

508
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 3: food plot and half of it is either unmanaged or

509
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 3: it's just some type of peer cover, right, And then

510
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 3: you really really are relying on the food plot to

511
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 3: hold deer on your property. It's like having a bird feeder.

512
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 3: If the bird feeder is empty, the birds are gone.

513
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 3: What you can do to get ahead of that is

514
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 3: add a lot more.

515
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 4: Perennial food on your property.

516
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 3: I think it's a good philosophy to always have some

517
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 3: type of perennial food plot in there, even if it's

518
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 3: just a ten or twenty foot buffer strip of clover

519
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 3: around your food plot or along the edge of the

520
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 3: woods or whatever it might be.

521
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 4: But bar none.

522
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 3: You should focus on native habitat as much as possible

523
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 3: because there's always going to be some level of food

524
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 3: there for those deer that mother nature prefers, right, And

525
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 3: we're not fighting mother nature to establish versus a food

526
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 3: plot that is an annual thing, and you know, one

527
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 3: week without rain could be a major failure. So folks

528
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 3: on the perennial food sources, don't rely entirely on your

529
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 3: food plots. And if you need something in there that's

530
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 3: green and easy, cereal rye works. It works really well.

531
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 3: You know, if you're a little bit earlier, maybe you

532
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 3: can even get oats or something in there, but cereal

533
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 3: rye is a good go to. The biggest thing with

534
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 3: cereal rye is once it gets about four to six

535
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 3: inches tall, the deer don't want to eat it so much,

536
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 3: so you don't want to put it in too early,

537
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 3: but you can almost never put it in too late

538
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 3: as long as it's thirty seven degrees and warming.

539
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 5: Next up we have bill Winki And maybe if you're

540
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 5: this far, you're saying, is it even worth to do

541
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 5: all of this work and try to time the rain

542
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 5: and figure out and buy the seed, buy the spray.

543
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 4: Take the time to do it.

544
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 5: I asked, build that question on top of the basis

545
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 5: of what to do next. So let's see what Bill

546
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 5: has to say in regard to is it even worth

547
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 5: all this effort. We haven't had any rain, and I

548
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 5: planted my food plots. I planted my braskas. My food

549
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 5: plots simply look like crap. I'm starting to panic. What

550
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 5: do I do now?

551
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 4: At September first September one, no food plot.

552
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 10: Gosh, if there's rain in the forecast, you know you

553
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 10: still have a chance, but you're probably gonna have to

554
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 10: plant something now, more like a rescue type of plot,

555
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 10: something that will grow really fast. You know, hot will

556
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 10: come up and grow really fast, like fallwry true to

557
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 10: kay winter wheat. Those things will germinate and pop out

558
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 10: of the ground super fast. So ideally, you know, if

559
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 10: you have access to a no till drill, I would

560
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 10: just go and drill right into those areas where you

561
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 10: planet to grow the crops that are you know, lagging behind,

562
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 10: and that way you get a quick hit of something

563
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 10: green when you get that first rain. Because let's say

564
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 10: that was prossifense in prossts, I really need a few

565
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 10: weeks you know, even when they're growing good to get

566
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 10: up and get going and you know, produce any for

567
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 10: it at all. You know, they're awesome ones. They do

568
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 10: what they're supposed to do. There's a lot of tonnage there,

569
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 10: but it takes a while. Whereas these more grain type

570
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 10: you know, cereal grain type plantings you can get. They

571
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 10: grow so quick that you can have something there that's

572
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 10: fairly attractive in pretty short the order. So that's probably

573
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 10: the best way to save those spots, I would say,

574
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 10: is to try to get cereal grain planted and then

575
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 10: hope for a rain because it'll.

576
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 7: Pop up quick.

577
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 4: Are they worth trying to save?

578
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 10: I mean put it this way. You don't need food

579
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 10: plots to be successful during the rut. So if you're

580
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 10: only planning to hunt the rut, then no. But if

581
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 10: your agenda is bigger and you're thinking, Okay, I've got

582
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 10: an earlier season hunts, I've got my late season hunts.

583
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 10: This is land that I hold, you know, so I

584
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 10: want my deer to be as healthy as possible, you know,

585
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 10: I want to hold deer out here. So there's sometimes

586
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 10: there's a bigger reason to plant these than just to

587
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 10: be successful. I've always said, you don't need food plots

588
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 10: you killed a nice buck during the nut you sure don't.

589
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 10: But during the early late season it really helps. And

590
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 10: then again, like I said, just for the overall help

591
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 10: the deer.

592
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 5: Now we have Steve Hanson, and if you ever have

593
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 5: gone and shopped to buy oats, I know this is

594
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 5: just one seed, and all these guys are talking about

595
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 5: different blends. But there's oats that allegedly can germinate and

596
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 5: wistand and grow a little bit colder temperature, and they're

597
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 5: usually called like buck forge oats, And I've always wanted

598
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 5: it as a worth the extra money because they are

599
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 5: more expensive. And this is what Steve has to say.

600
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 5: Is it worth to spend a little bit extra money

601
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 5: to try to get a couple extra growing days in

602
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 5: the fall, depending on if you're getting a late start. So,

603
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 5: without further ado, let's get into what Steve Hanson has

604
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 5: to say for anyone that feels like they're behind the

605
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 5: eight ball and they need every single growing day possible

606
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 5: before we get a really hard frost. My spring food

607
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 5: pot looks like crap. My beans got over browsed. I

608
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 5: feel like I missed a third week of August rain event.

609
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 5: My food pot's like, look like crap, I'm behind sure,

610
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 5: what can I do well?

611
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 11: At that point, you know you're you're gonna if you're

612
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 11: talking first week is September, you still have some opportunities.

613
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 11: You know you're gonna be more limited now to cereal grains.

614
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 11: That's gonna be your best your best food source chance

615
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 11: for sure. And they're almost failure proof because they will

616
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 11: grow into the cooler periods the later that you get

617
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 11: into the month of September. The only the only way

618
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 11: you can accelerate one of the only ways you can

619
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 11: really excel rate the growth of your food plots like

620
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 11: that you're gonna need like rye, wheat, tritcal, You're gonna

621
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 11: probably want to pick from one of those. And then

622
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 11: this is one time where I think it's a big

623
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 11: benefit to work the ground. So if you're dealing with

624
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 11: a failed food plot, you know of whatever, say it

625
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 11: was a failed turniplot due to drought or high deer

626
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 11: pressure or whatever. By working the ground and making it darker,

627
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 11: it's gonna absorb more heat, so you're gonna get more

628
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 11: heat units later into the year, which is going to

629
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 11: encourage that growth and allow that plot to be more

630
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 11: attractive later on. I would also up the seating rates

631
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 11: because each plant you're planting at this point isn't going

632
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 11: to have the ability to get as tall, so you

633
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 11: need more plants to create the same amount of biomass.

634
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 5: What's an example of a seating rate for We'll pick

635
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 5: tritacale because I feel like a lot of people don't

636
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 5: receive triticale.

637
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean tritacal. You're gonna want to You're gonna

638
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 11: want to run maybe one hundred pounds, you know, which

639
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 11: would be quite a bit. I think if if we

640
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 11: were doing just a pure cover crop rate, it could

641
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 11: be thirty or forty pounds. If we were planning is

642
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 11: at a crop for a harvest, we'd probably plan about seventy,

643
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 11: and for a food plot situation, I would probably go

644
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 11: closer to one hundred.

645
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 5: So you shouldn't necessarily panic if they look like junk.

646
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 5: There's still fail proof. I don't say bailproof, but safeguards yep.

647
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 11: Those would be your insurance policy plots, you know. Having

648
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 11: something like rye tritecal or winter wheat would be like

649
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 11: a last and you could put in some clovers with it.

650
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 11: You could try some other stuff because you have no

651
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 11: guarantee of the weather. You could have an abnormally warm

652
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 11: fall where things keep growing. So maybe throw a few

653
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 11: radishes back in, just kind of like candy, you know.

654
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 11: But the true ones that are going to be your

655
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 11: bread and butter that's going to get you through and

656
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 11: have a good food plot, are going to be the

657
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 11: cereal grains of some variety. I would stay away from

658
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 11: oats because they're going to frost kill. You know, they

659
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 11: grow fast, so you would get some you know, some height.

660
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 11: But depending on the latitude and where you're located, I

661
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 11: would stay with those three trit to cow rye or

662
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 11: winter whek because they're more frost tolerant.

663
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 5: Do you have any experience of the buck Ford jotes

664
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 5: that are supposedly more cold cold tolerant.

665
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 11: Yeah, And you know, if you just like anything, you

666
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 11: could do and I've done it, a deep dive into

667
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 11: oats and then each you know, they have a cold maturity.

668
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 11: There was a seed dealer in Minnesota and they used

669
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 11: to have a great breakdown of each one of their

670
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 11: oats and the cold heartiness. You know, Buck fourge oats

671
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 11: are definitely in the top of the cold hardy ones.

672
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 11: But what you learn is it really isn't that much

673
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 11: of a you might get they may it might be

674
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 11: three degrees different, but it gets you know, fifteen degrees

675
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 11: in the ground freezes.

676
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 4: They're all dead.

677
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: That's it.

678
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 11: You know, You're not there. Buck Ford isn't going to

679
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 11: survive that, you know.

680
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 5: So yeah, that's a question that I people ask all

681
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 5: the time of is it worth it because it's a

682
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 5: lot more expensive.

683
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 11: It is a lot more expensive, and if you're doing

684
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 11: a smaller plot, I would say it is.

685
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 4: Is to get a couple extra growing days.

686
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 11: Absolutely, just a little more lush little you know, stay

687
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 11: is a little more palatable, you know, because we get

688
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 11: a lot of that late October weather where you get

689
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 11: a twenty degree night sometimes and it'll freeze. But and

690
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 11: that shouldn't take out the buck four joke, where it

691
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 11: may take out some of the other ones.

692
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 5: So and to close things out, we have Mark Kenyon.

693
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,959
Speaker 5: You know what the question is. But Mark has actually

694
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 5: a really funny story on this exact scenario. Like I said,

695
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 5: if you plan the food plots, things typically don't go

696
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 5: exactly right. More likely you're using an old tractor or

697
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 5: you're trying to scramble together a game plan on the

698
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 5: fly as a pop up shower comes up in September

699
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 5: that wasn't in the forecast two days ago, one day ago,

700
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 5: or a hex six hours ago. Let's hear what Mark

701
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 5: has to say. I think you guys will enjoy this.

702
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 4: Here we go. We just missed labor day and I

703
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 4: was out of the farm.

704
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 5: My food plots look like I'm growing noxious weeds or

705
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 5: it looks like the dust bowl rain.

706
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 4: It could happen any moment. My food plots look like crap.

707
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 4: What can I do? Yeah?

708
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 7: Unfortunately, I am someone who's been in the situation myself

709
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 7: a handful of times over the years, many times over

710
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 7: the years, and I have historically all the advice of

711
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 7: another one of our guests on this podcast and someone

712
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 7: who's helping. So I've called this guy like, Hey, what

713
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 7: do you have to do in this situation? How should

714
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 7: I handle the situation? So I am of the Jeff

715
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 7: Sturgis camp, So I've called him in the past and

716
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 7: be like, Hey, here's my situation, how would you tackle this?

717
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 7: What should I do in this situation? And what that

718
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 7: has meant for me in the past, and what I

719
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 7: would do again? Now is that I would go in

720
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 7: there and depend on Rye to save the day for me,

721
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 7: hundreds of pounds of Rye cereal, Rye praaker, pray for rain.

722
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 7: I'm just broadcasting this over top. And the thing about Rise,

723
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 7: it's it's so easy to get going.

724
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 4: You'll Germany like the I can't.

725
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 7: It's Jeffrey's South. It's end to your truck. You'll you'll

726
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 7: German in the back of your truck. And so I've

727
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 7: always remembered that, and that has been the case. If

728
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 7: you if you brought cast topsy, the whole ton of

729
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 7: Rye out there, it's very likely that you have something

730
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 7: green and growing and that'll be enough to get you through.

731
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 7: You know, get some attraction. Certainly deer utilize it. So, Yes,

732
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 7: I've had many failed plots saved by Rye. What was

733
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 7: the root of some of the failures of your plots

734
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 7: if you had to yes, is it is it poor

735
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 7: prep when you say a failure, is it just weeds?

736
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 7: Or did was the pressure to the rouse pressure too high?

737
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 7: What was the root of some of the failures that

738
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 7: you've had to face where you had to call on

739
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 7: the rescue plan? Yep, So the the root is twofold.

740
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 7: One is that I am like the most hillbilly sheep

741
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 7: food plotter. I don't own a tractor, I don't have

742
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 7: any farm implements. I do everything historically has been done with.

743
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 7: First was an a TV and a little tiny groundhog

744
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 7: max who plot disc if you remember those, Oh they're

745
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 7: still run, but that I've graduated to a UTV. So

746
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 7: I have a u TV with a sprayer in the

747
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 7: back of that. And then no till is what I

748
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 7: to know. And so by doing that, though I'm literally spraying,

749
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 7: broadcasting smashing, so I'm not you know, you're getting very minimal,

750
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 7: you know, at least not as good of seed to

751
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 7: soil contact as you could get if you had a

752
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 7: drill or if you were disking the whole thing and

753
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 7: then getting your seat.

754
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 4: In that way.

755
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 7: And so when that has when I've done it that way,

756
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 7: you are very dependent on rain. And so if you

757
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 7: do not get the rain that was forecasting heavy, Yeah,

758
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 7: if you don't get that heavy rain, you're gonna have

759
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 7: a significant challenge dealing with getting germination and not having

760
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 7: you know, also concurred to all this is like weed

761
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 7: stuff too, and so when I'm not destroying the field

762
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 7: and telling it all up, you're still gonna have weed

763
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 7: issues if you get one spray maybe in so usually

764
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 7: it's because of the challenging planting process mixed in with

765
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 7: rain not cooperating. That's when you have the failure.

766
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 4: I have this.

767
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 7: It was last year, maybe one other time. I found someone.

768
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 7: I decided I was going to pay for someone to

769
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 7: come out of the drill and get that, and that

770
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 7: has significantly improved, you know, my germination rate and gets

771
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 7: you through some of these food plot failure type situations.

772
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 7: You can get away with a lot more when you've

773
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 7: got your seed there at the right depth, you know,

774
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 7: in the way you want it. You can survive a

775
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 7: little bit more of those water issues when you have that.

776
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 7: But even even last year, I think when I did

777
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 7: have someone drill this stuff in, there was one section

778
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 7: in one of my plots that like, simply every year

779
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 7: August we're not getting rainly we used to, and so

780
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 7: I still say, jeez, I'm gonna need to fill some gaps.

781
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 7: Got to fill some holes, and so right stave with

782
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 7: to day again.

783
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 5: So if you're in your food plot method, you know

784
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 5: you're broadcasting and it's people miss spots that. I think

785
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 5: that happens all the time, and so it's unlikely that

786
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 5: you have this beautiful plot with all these rows and

787
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 5: everything's perfectly covered. You might have some patches throughout the

788
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 5: food plot. Do you think it's a worthwhile effort to

789
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 5: go in and throw some rye grain or whatever kitchen

790
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 5: sink makes you.

791
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 4: Want just to fill it out?

792
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, I do think so. Like, if you have a

793
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 7: situation where you have, you know, if it's rethink this. Yeah,

794
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 7: I do think it's worthwhile as long as the risk

795
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 7: is not outweighing the reward. So if here's a situation

796
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 7: where it's like opening days in five days and you

797
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 7: realize this, you're like, oh man, my food plus don't

798
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 7: look perfect and opening days five days away. At that point,

799
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 7: I personally wouldn't. It doesn't matter that much to have

800
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 7: a perfectly filled food plot. But if you're still three

801
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 7: weeks out or you know, he's got plenty of time

802
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 7: and you've got this perfect rain coming and everything looks great,

803
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 7: you're like, hey, I go out there and you know

804
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 7: a couple hours, really approve things. If these are significant holes, Yeah,

805
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 7: go out there, do that. I think that helps. It's

806
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 7: low impact enough and high enough reward that in those

807
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 7: cases it does make sense. I one time had this

808
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 7: situation and I had my family out there at the

809
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 7: property with me that day, and I thought to myself,

810
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 7: you know what if I just.

811
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 4: Go in on the UTV and.

812
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 7: Run in there and get my kids to use the

813
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 7: shoulder broadcaster. I had my wife and my two kids,

814
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 7: and I was like, if they each if we all

815
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 7: had a shoulder broadcaster, and if we drove through, we

816
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 7: wouldn't even need to step foot off of the UTV.

817
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 7: We just go in there, hand broadcasts these, fill in

818
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 7: these gaps, and then get out of there and never

819
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 7: turn off the can am, never leave any ground sent

820
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 7: It'll be super low impact. It would fix this food plot.

821
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 7: It'll be perfect in it's worthwhile. And so before we

822
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 7: go out there, I tell the kids, I'm like, hey,

823
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 7: here's the plan. I do not want you stepping off

824
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 7: the can am. I do not want you making a lot.

825
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 7: We're just gonna go in. Everyone's gonna lean off the

826
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 7: sign and spread the seed, and then we're gonna get

827
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 7: out of there. It's gonna take like five minutes, ten minutes,

828
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 7: and the deer will never know and we'll fix the

829
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 7: food plot problems.

830
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 4: And this was late.

831
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 7: It was this was like a later closer to this season,

832
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 7: and that's why I was so worried about. I was like,

833
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 7: all right, let's do So we start going and we

834
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 7: get to the food plot, and right as we start,

835
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 7: like everyone's trying to do this, my oldest son starts

836
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 7: getting upset because his thing isn't turning around. So he

837
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 7: starts like, You're like, Dad, it's not working. I'm like, cool, forever,

838
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 7: gotta quiet, got be quiet. And then Colt spills his

839
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 7: bag and see that, so he starts crying, and I'm like, guys,

840
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 7: if you're making noise, don't make noise. And then all

841
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 7: of a sudden, the canam dies and I ran out

842
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 7: of gas. So I'm stalled out there.

843
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 4: Both the kids are crying.

844
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 7: I'm thinking, this is the guest disaster ever, So don't

845
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 7: do that. Yeah, But outside of that set of circumstances,

846
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 7: I think it's worthwhile. It usually can be relatively easily.

847
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 4: That's a great METHODO.

848
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 5: If it would have worked out, you didn't run out

849
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 5: of gas and have the other issues, that's a really great,

850
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 5: really great strategy.

851
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 4: Well, now I think really really quick.

852
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 5: If your food plot failed and you're nervous and you

853
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 5: feel like it's semi important to have a food source

854
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 5: on the farm, is it worth it? Is it worth

855
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 5: doing pulling pulling this audible and try to scrap together

856
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 5: at the last moment, or you're like, hey, it is

857
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 5: what it is, and I'm going to still have a

858
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 5: good season without messing with the fixing the food plot.

859
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 7: I think the key thing goes back to how you

860
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 7: led that question, which is like how important is food

861
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 7: in that area to you or overall plant. I think

862
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 7: there's some properties where you know they're nice to have,

863
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 7: like it's a nice cream stand and these little food

864
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 7: plots are like, hey, it's nice. But honestly, if it's

865
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 7: not there, I still know I can kill deer X,

866
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Speaker 7: Y and Z ways because of other features or other

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Speaker 7: moving patterns. So if it's that case, then maybe it's

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Speaker 7: not worthwhile. But then there's other properties where really like,

869
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Speaker 7: a food source is the anchor of a property or

870
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Speaker 7: the anchor of a strategy, and if you don't have that,

871
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Speaker 7: then everything else crumbles around it, and you need to

872
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Speaker 7: know your property well enough to make that decision. I

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Speaker 7: have some properties that's that I have some properties where

874
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Speaker 7: it's the other one where okay, no big deal, we'll pivot.

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Speaker 7: You've got to make a judgment call over time perfect.

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Speaker 5: Well, there was a lot of great solutions to this example,

877
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Speaker 5: and there was a lot of similarities. Once again, I

878
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Speaker 5: think there was some episodes just here that you know,

879
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Speaker 5: really address why maybe they're failing or and then also

880
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 5: a lot of the mixes, a lot of the strategies

881
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 5: was very very succinct, and I think that depending whether

882
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 5: you're a guy that's just going to use a bags better,

883
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Speaker 5: there's solutions for you here in this episode.

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Speaker 4: And there was other examples where they're.

885
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Speaker 5: Like bake, borrow and steel, get a drill, drill it in,

886
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Speaker 5: and so you have different options based off of what

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Speaker 5: you have available to you. So don't panic. There's ways

888
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Speaker 5: to make this work. You ry grain can save the

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Speaker 5: save the day. And hopefully everyone got a lot of

890
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Speaker 5: value out of this, because I know I did. There

891
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Speaker 5: was a lot of really good solutions, and unfortunately the

892
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Speaker 5: last few years we haven't really gotten a lot of

893
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Speaker 5: great fall rains, and so there's been a lot of

894
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Speaker 5: people in this camp and so now they have eight

895
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Speaker 5: really good solutions. Next week, we have a great episode,

896
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Speaker 5: one that is really not all that great because it's

897
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Speaker 5: a really catastrophic issue. But we're talking about EHD and

898
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 5: what do you do if you are facing this? This

899
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Speaker 5: is not a fun conversation, and some of these guests

900
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Speaker 5: that really hit home, and we're going to dive into

901
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Speaker 5: what can you do next week?

902
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Speaker 4: There, you guys have it.

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Speaker 5: Hopefully you have a good game plan now and you

904
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Speaker 5: have a couple of different seed ideas on varieties and blends.

905
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Speaker 4: You have an idea on using.

906
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 5: Clips and ammonium soul fate to help get a quicker

907
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Speaker 5: kill down and a more effective killed down.

908
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Speaker 4: You're looking at maybe why did they not work?

909
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 5: If you did plant spring food plots and they got

910
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 5: over browsed, or you planted them too early, and or

911
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 5: maybe mother nature just hasn't cooperated. But as Jeff Ster

912
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Speaker 5: just said, there is typically more rain as you get

913
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Speaker 5: deeper into falls, so there's plenty of time. There is

914
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Speaker 5: so much time not to procrastinate, but there is time

915
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Speaker 5: to put together a plan that is not rushed or

916
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Speaker 5: you feel like you're in a hurry and maybe you

917
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Speaker 5: don't make the best decision.

918
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Speaker 4: There's time.

919
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Speaker 5: All these guys said there's time, So take a deep

920
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 5: breath and realize, put together a game plan and you

921
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Speaker 5: will have a good fall food plot even if it

922
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Speaker 5: doesn't rain for the next two weeks, because you have time.

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Speaker 4: So that is it.

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Speaker 5: I hope you guys enjoyed this episode of the Back

925
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 5: forty podcast. Like I said, we've had a handful of

926
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Speaker 5: other episodes that are going to help you develop a

927
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Speaker 5: game plan with a panel of highly qualified experts. These

928
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Speaker 5: are all been hand selected of guys that have decades

929
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Speaker 5: and decades of experience, have gone through different hoops and

930
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Speaker 5: challenges depending on where they're at in the country, and

931
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Speaker 5: so there's just a lot of value in a short

932
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Speaker 5: amount of time in all these episodes, and I hope they.

933
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Speaker 4: Don't seem repetitive.

934
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Speaker 5: But the point of this is to potentially solidify what

935
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Speaker 5: all these folks believe and figure out what do all

936
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Speaker 5: these guys really agree on, and then what are the

937
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 5: nuanced different approaches that may succinctly fall into what your

938
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Speaker 5: ideology is or what your plan is.

939
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Speaker 4: And so that is it.

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Speaker 5: I hope you guys enjoyed this episode of the Back

941
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Speaker 5: forty And next week we're going to have a pretty

942
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Speaker 5: heavy topic that I hope doesn't hit home but it might.

943
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Speaker 4: And I hope you see you guys next week.