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Speaker 1: seven Home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: What's going on, Steelers Nation Radio. It is the Drive

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Speaker 2: here on the Steelers Audio Network. West Shooler and Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson with you for the next two hours on your

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Speaker 2: twenty four to seven Home of the Black and the

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Speaker 2: Gold before we head to What I dare say, Matt,

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Speaker 2: is a long holiday weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well deserved for all of us.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly.

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Speaker 2: I know you've got some plans with some of your

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Speaker 2: buddies and some fantasy football drafts.

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Speaker 4: I'll be going down to Morgantown.

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Speaker 3: For the Robert Morris University Stellar.

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Speaker 2: First time in program histories that the universities have played

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Speaker 2: each other.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of cool. I kind of like your chances.

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Speaker 2: I like our chances there. Yes, but there will be

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Speaker 2: I think plenty of people making the trip down seventy

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Speaker 2: nine to Morgantown. So yeah, one last kind of weekend

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Speaker 2: for all of us to breathe before we really will

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Speaker 2: hit the ground running starting on Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: We will have a ton of Jets stuff.

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin will speak Tuesday afternoon as well too, So

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Speaker 2: any news in terms of I think especially some of

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Speaker 2: the injuries that we've been speculating on.

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Speaker 3: And things like that have official stuff.

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Speaker 2: We will have official designations and all and all of

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Speaker 2: that as well too.

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Speaker 3: So in a week from today, there's gonna be an

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Speaker 3: NFL game, which is awesome in a real game with

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Speaker 3: like all the starters and matters and all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: And a good one, great rivalry between two good teams.

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Speaker 3: And Michael Parsons will be involved or not. But Dallas

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Speaker 3: is going to Philly, I mean, great stuff.

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Speaker 2: George Pickens certainly will be and so we'll get our

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Speaker 2: first look at him in a different uniform. So plenty

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Speaker 2: to get to between now and Tuesday, though, still of course,

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Speaker 2: and Matt, I think we start today with all the

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Speaker 2: latest roster moving and shaken.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, last time we got together, we had not had

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Speaker 3: a practice squad yet, and since then so much happened.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes in twenty four hours we.

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Speaker 4: Got warned that was going to be the cashors.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's just the way it goes. And some

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Speaker 3: of these people are some of our fans are listening

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Speaker 3: obviously hours after record and it's just the podcast world.

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Speaker 3: But it's better than live radio that doesn't exist back

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Speaker 3: in the day, you know. But anyway, since we you

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Speaker 3: and I got together last, there is a practice squad announced.

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Speaker 3: I think that's definitely worth going over some familiar names.

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Speaker 3: And they made two moves off of it already, you know,

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Speaker 3: So things are We always say that fifty three is

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Speaker 3: not setting stone, folks, It's right.

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Speaker 2: Not even sett in stone usually for about twenty four hours,

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Speaker 2: definitely not forty eight hours. And yes, since we've last conversed,

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Speaker 2: there has been plenty of moving and shaking. Let's start

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Speaker 2: with you want to start with the changes to the

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Speaker 2: act of raw here before we go to practice squad?

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Speaker 4: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 3: Other way you want to do disco area chronological what

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Speaker 3: kind of makes a little more sense and people will

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Speaker 3: understand where these guys came from and all that.

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Speaker 4: Sure.

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Speaker 2: So if you will recall Tuesday, four o'clock four point

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Speaker 2: thirty was when was when the initial fifty three man

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Speaker 3: We were on the air and just boom and dude.

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Speaker 2: That was a hectic day.

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Speaker 4: There was a lot going on.

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Speaker 2: My reading comprehension let me down, and I thought Najie

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Speaker 3: They were throwing left and right.

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Speaker 2: Throwing things at us left and right. But then Wednesday

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Speaker 2: we got these Steelers sixteen man practice squad. Five defensive

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Speaker 2: backs Beanie Bishop, the rookie Sebastian Castro, DeShawn Jamison, James Pierre,

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Speaker 2: Darryl Porter, two defensive linemen Kyler Baugh and de Marvin Leonon.

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Speaker 3: So since COVID you're allowed to put some veterans on there,

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Speaker 3: you should just be young guys, you know, So Robert

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good point. I definitely have some takeaways. The first

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Speaker 2: That it's a great point. Yeah, there's nobody. Oh we

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Speaker 3: Let's get well, I gotta do homework on him. Never

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Speaker 3: they obviously liked the guys they had, and I remember

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Speaker 3: Certainly some initial impressions are I would have loved another

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Speaker 3: make this a little easier too, because they did make

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Speaker 3: this reason. Yeah, so you don't have all that stock

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Speaker 3: not sure Welshoff makes a team if he's from Montana

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Speaker 3: note that the D line, the big guys were really heavy.

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Speaker 3: There are eight of them, so there's only really one

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Speaker 3: frankly know the least about of all these guys. I mean,

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Speaker 3: So there are nine Steelers at least that are d linemen.

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Speaker 3: We also mentioned the defensive backs were really weird and

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Speaker 3: obviously they balanced that out, as are these next upcoming moves. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Them, or you know, or Skyler everyone on Twitter thought

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, And people don't get picked up as much

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Speaker 4: Is what the whole last month was for.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think we used the example it's not

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Speaker 3: Go hit fifth, you know you'll be fine, correct. But

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Speaker 3: I was also happy the two backs they brought back.

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Speaker 3: They were exactly the names we kind of discussed that

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Speaker 3: I want to get them to camp next year totally.

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Speaker 2: You know, we've mentioned that a few times.

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Speaker 2: And I think that I think you're spot on. I

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Speaker 4: Pierre I think would have been there.

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Speaker 2: Beanie would have been there, Leal would have been there,

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Speaker 2: But like you said, I think that's one of those

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Speaker 3: A lot of work for the new team.

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Speaker 2: And back when you had you know, distinct cut down days,

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Speaker 2: like you said, you're getting ready for the Jets like

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Speaker 2: nothing else.

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Speaker 3: Matters, Nothing else matters, And just think about it. If

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Speaker 3: you're the Steelers, are any of the other thirty one

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Speaker 3: front offices, Yes you see some cuts coming down the line,

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Speaker 3: are the nine hundred people that were cut all at once.

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Speaker 3: I mean, no matter how deep your scouting staff is

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Speaker 3: That's a tidal wave of cut dudes, you know what

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: Who you're putting a claimant out of this group, like

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Speaker 2: No, it's that's that's a very good point too. And

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have to make that happen, and right, would.

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Speaker 2: You rather type conversations that Again, they don't necessarily have

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Speaker 2: on the third day of August, you know, when the

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Speaker 3: And seventy five percent of those cut guys you expected

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Speaker 3: to get cut or more. But still it's a lot

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Speaker 4: It sure is.

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Speaker 2: And then even more movement off of that this morning, Matt,

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Speaker 2: the roster moves continue for the stillers as they bring

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Speaker 2: back two other familiar names in Chuck Clark and Max

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Speaker 2: Sharping of course safety and guard and placed two moves

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Speaker 3: So my initial impressions there are I assume they told

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Speaker 3: Clark and Sharping Unfortunately, guys, we have to release you

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Speaker 3: and for forty or for twenty four hours. Yeah, please

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Speaker 3: don't answer your phone. I understand if you do, but

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Speaker 3: you're gonna be unemployed, and we definitely want to bring

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Speaker 3: you back. And that adds up with how they built

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Speaker 3: their initial fifty three. But there's a chance they could

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Speaker 3: have left. I mean that those guys don't have to

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Speaker 3: come back. Somebody else could have called them whatever. They

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Speaker 3: But my take on it was two things. A lot

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Speaker 3: they can spend longer time to shop Skyler for a pick.

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Speaker 3: I never thought that was it at all, But maybe,

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Speaker 2: Matt's Stats esque conversation about implied projected points. Yeah, across

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Speaker 2: Hey look at this. This is this is good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Well, I would say almost all of what you said

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Speaker 3: Yes, I know he's a pick guy too.

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Speaker 2: Duh, duh.

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Speaker 3: And this is not anyone making it up.

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Speaker 2: This isn't a list of This isn't Mane.

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Speaker 3: Dale's or Matt and West's favorite.

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Speaker 2: Isn't this isn't your wide receiver power rankings, which we're

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Speaker 2: right all.

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Speaker 3: Right, this is what Vegas thinks is the best bets.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo at the top of the list, right on their

443
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Speaker 2: heels is Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: Okay. Now, a lot of this also reflects like what

445
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Speaker 3: we talked about yes strike schedule and playing Bills don't

446
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Speaker 3: play a really tough schedule, so they're favored in almost

447
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Speaker 3: all their games by a substantial amount and are expected

448
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Speaker 3: to score a ton of points. Of those two quarterbacks,

449
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Speaker 3: I don't think anyone's shocked that they're the two teams

450
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Speaker 3: expected to be the highest scorers. I think it's interesting

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Speaker 3: to go through the top ten or so in the

452
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Speaker 3: bottom ten and where the Steelers are.

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Speaker 4: That's that's what I wanted to do here.

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Speaker 2: Number three is a little interesting to me, not because

455
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Speaker 2: I don't think they're a good offense. I wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: had them third. I would have thought they'd certainly be

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Speaker 2: top ten. But Detroit is number three.

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Speaker 3: Okay. I am almost certain we haven't got the NFC

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Speaker 3: over unders. I think they have like the second easiest

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Speaker 3: schedule in the.

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Speaker 2: League they if I remember correct. I think I could

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Speaker 2: pull that up for you in just a second.

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Speaker 3: Because we were talking about that yesterday. I know that

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Speaker 3: they have some weird scheduling quirks, and they also have

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Speaker 3: a lot of things in their advantage in terms of

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Speaker 3: like rest before their games. And they're a good skin.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're obviously a good offense.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, we're giving this.

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Speaker 2: Here we go, I got it right here at the

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Speaker 2: very path.

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Speaker 4: The Where are they?

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Speaker 2: Why can't I find them?

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Speaker 3: Maybe they can't read I'm totally wrong. Maybe they're in

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Speaker 3: the middle.

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Speaker 2: I can't read. Good.

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Speaker 4: Where's the Lions on this list?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 4: There, here we go, thirdy third, most difficult.

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Speaker 3: Most difficult. That does shock me, Imi. I assumed it

480
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Speaker 3: was third easiest since they're third on this implied projected points.

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Speaker 3: But they were talk of listed scoring last year.

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Speaker 2: I think the and I don't expect them to take

483
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Speaker 2: some massive drop back step back, but they lost a

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Speaker 2: lot of that interior of their offensive line, they lost

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Speaker 2: their offensive coordinator. But they still, I think, will be

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Speaker 2: a top ten offense. Yeah, Number four the Commanders, okay,

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Speaker 2: number five, Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: So something we were talking about off the air, where

489
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Speaker 3: offense is more predictive than defense, Like any analytic people

490
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Speaker 3: will tell you that. And I think a lot of

491
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Speaker 3: it's just because quarterbacks touch the ball over play and

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Speaker 3: chances already bring back the same quarterback. Not everyone does.

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Speaker 3: But and this isn't great for the Steelers conversation, like,

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Speaker 3: I've never seen this list done for defense, but I

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Speaker 3: guess you could. I mean, you could do points allowed

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Speaker 3: a yeah, and I'm sure the Steelers are higher on

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Speaker 3: the list defensively than they are offensively. Yes, and they'd

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Speaker 3: be on any list. We do a better d than Oh,

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Speaker 3: but history shows if you have one of the best

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Speaker 3: any metric you want, you know, EPA, yards for play,

501
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Speaker 3: whatever you're into, the best offenses are the ones that

502
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Speaker 3: last the longest in the league, that that go the farthest.

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Speaker 3: You're like, the final four teams from last year I

504
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Speaker 3: think were the four best offenses in the league. When

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Speaker 3: it was all said, yes, you know, yes, that doesn't

506
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Speaker 3: bode well for the way the Steelers are currently constructed,

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 2: And that's the point that's some of the underlying points

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Speaker 2: of this exercise. So yeah, So Washington for Kansas City five,

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Speaker 2: Eagles six nine or seven, Tampa Bay eight, Cincinnata nine,

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Speaker 2: and the Rams ten.

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Speaker 4: That's your top ten.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I assume that they're I assume they're assuming

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Speaker 3: Stafford's healthy. You know, a couple of things have changed,

515
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Speaker 3: you know, Tampa has had a couple injuries on offense,

516
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Speaker 3: Godwin and Wharfs and things like that. But still I

517
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Speaker 3: don't know that the lines in week twelve changed that

518
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Speaker 3: much now just because of those bits of news.

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Speaker 2: That's a good point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But the teams just mentioned are been the best

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Speaker 3: teams in the league for.

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Speaker 4: The most part. They certainly have.

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Speaker 3: And what I.

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Speaker 2: Thought all of those except for well San Francisco and

525
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati where the two who were not playoff teams last year,

526
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Speaker 2: but the other eight of the top ten were in

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Speaker 2: the playoff last last year.

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Speaker 3: Adds up greas other bottom will be much worse.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and some of the teams right behind there,

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Speaker 2: Green Bay, Arizona, Denver, the Chargers, quality teams'll be the

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Speaker 2: quality teams. The Vikings pretty are down this list, which

532
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Speaker 2: surprised me.

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Speaker 4: Wow a little bit.

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Speaker 3: They were pretty high last year.

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Speaker 4: They are twenty first.

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Speaker 3: It looks like here that's noteworthy.

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Speaker 2: That was one of the kind of ones that that

538
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Speaker 2: surprised me for how low they were. And then the

539
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Speaker 2: Steelers twenty sixth Matt on this list.

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Speaker 3: That's not gonna get it done, No, it's not. I mean,

541
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Speaker 3: if you end up with the twenty sixth highest scoring offense,

542
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Speaker 3: in the league. That's not a successful season anyway you

543
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Speaker 3: get there.

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Speaker 4: I completely agree.

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Speaker 2: Even if you have the number one ranked defense right

546
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Speaker 2: with the twenty top way to win most you know,

547
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Speaker 2: successful offense or highest scoring offense is still a very

548
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Speaker 2: tough way to win.

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Speaker 3: And frankly, that's the way they've been winning over these

550
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Speaker 3: last five years or so. They win turnover differential like crazy,

551
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Speaker 3: great on special teams, great on defense, but it's tough

552
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Speaker 3: to win in the margins like that. It's easier just

553
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Speaker 3: to have Pat Mahomes and be at the top a

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Speaker 3: list orld be the Lions. Oh but yes, that's the

555
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Speaker 3: struggles the Steelers have dealt with lately, and Vegas expects

556
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Speaker 3: it to be sort of more of the same, which

557
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Speaker 3: isn't the best news.

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Speaker 4: So it is not.

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Speaker 2: But these are also implied projections. And as much as

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Speaker 2: they are statistically based, and we all know that Vegas

561
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Speaker 2: is accurate more than they are inaccurate, that also does

562
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Speaker 2: not mean that this is gospel or chiseledon.

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Speaker 3: And this is the team we've talked about in the

564
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Speaker 3: camp a bunch. They're going to have a new leading passer,

565
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Speaker 3: a new leading receiver, new leading rusher.

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Speaker 2: Which has happened like fourteen times in the last and

567
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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl year in the last fifty some years.

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Speaker 3: So I would imagine they're also one of the hardest

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Speaker 3: teams to handicap for Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Which have to be makes a ton of sense.

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Speaker 4: Where do they need to be about?

572
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Speaker 2: Let's okay, let's take middle of the road.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's do a.

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Speaker 2: Pie in the sky scenario. Defense is a bonafide top

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Speaker 2: two or three defense in the NFL. Okay, Steelers defense

576
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Speaker 2: is truly elite, one of the best. If you do

577
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Speaker 2: this exercise on the defensive side of the football, at

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Speaker 2: the end of the year, they're top two or three.

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Speaker 2: Where's the offense need to be for you to think that,

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Speaker 2: you know, this team could still get to a postseason

581
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Speaker 2: and make some noise mid you know, sixteeneen to sixteen, yeah, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen.

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Speaker 3: I think you'd be a real contender in those scenarios.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if yeah, I think you'd be one of

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Speaker 3: the top eight teams in the league.

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Speaker 2: For sure, you might not be top five, but you

586
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Speaker 2: could be nipping on the heels.

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Speaker 3: But you would probably be in the same tier. As

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Speaker 3: we look at the Bills and Ravens and those type

589
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Speaker 3: of teams. I mean, that's a pretty good combination. And

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they'll be fine on special teams. If not good,

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Speaker 3: I mean bos is gonna be good. You know, different question,

592
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Speaker 3: different way of phrasing. You have no clue what special

593
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Speaker 3: teams or defense is going to be. And it's a

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Speaker 3: game that Dale and I used to play. Would if

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Speaker 3: I said you would be twentieth, would you take it?

596
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Speaker 3: Or would you go fish? And say I'll you know

597
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Speaker 3: what I mean? Like right now, I'm like if I

598
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Speaker 3: come out of the the genie comes out of the bottle,

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Speaker 3: you know, Robin Williams and says you can have the

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Speaker 3: twentieth best offense. Do you want to Would you say,

601
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Speaker 3: all right, I'll take it? Or give me door number two?

602
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 3: I'll see where the chips fall.

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Speaker 2: So this is like getting sixteen on blackjack exactly if

604
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Speaker 2: you set because in my mind I was thinking I

605
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Speaker 2: need the eighteenth.

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Speaker 3: I would say twenty. I think I'm going fish.

607
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Speaker 4: I think I'm going fish.

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Speaker 2: I need because again I'm if it was eighteen, like

609
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Speaker 2: this is, if it's seventeen on the blackjack table, I'm

610
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Speaker 2: staying I'm probably hitting. I'm probably going fish. I need,

611
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Speaker 2: I need eighteen or better.

612
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Speaker 3: That's why I started with twenty.

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Speaker 4: That's good, it's a.

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Speaker 2: Really good that's a good over under there by you, Matt.

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Speaker 3: But if I gave you fifteen, I'll take it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, like i'll take it today. No clue what

617
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Speaker 3: the season entails, fifteen, I'll take it twenty.

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Speaker 2: I'm going fish one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the same Mark markt Then, Yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 3: don't I can't imagine top six or seven, No, you

621
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Speaker 3: know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I think that's been a little too greedy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but hey, anywhere from eighteen to thirteen or

625
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: we're we're cooking with gas real quick.

626
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Speaker 3: Who are the bottom five or six?

627
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Speaker 2: Cleveland is dead last, so the bottom by like a

628
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Speaker 2: wide margin.

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Speaker 4: By a pretty wide margin.

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Speaker 2: The bottom six below the Steelers are Vegas Titans, Jets, Giants,

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Speaker 2: g Nolins, and the last.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean those are the bad teams. Yeah. It's

633
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Speaker 3: an offense driven.

634
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Speaker 4: League, No, it certainly is.

635
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 3: It's hard to overcome average the below everage offense, and.

636
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Speaker 2: The Steelers have done a lot of that over the

637
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Speaker 2: last couple of years. Yeah, but let's hope they don't

638
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: have to do that again this year, right.

639
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Speaker 3: If you can just take another step forward on that

640
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Speaker 3: side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: That's your professor Williamson, little something, little some something of

642
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Speaker 2: the day. Yeah, I dig it, and that is that's

643
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Speaker 2: one of those things that hey, you want to you

644
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Speaker 2: want to see that start to uptick with maybe as

645
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Speaker 2: as some some expectation.

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Speaker 3: It's just a you can argue about, like, oh, they

647
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Speaker 3: should be higher. Well, I mean, go out there and

648
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Speaker 3: prove it. I say, everyone that's betting the tase right

649
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 3: now tends to disagree with you, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one more segment to go here in this hour.

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Speaker 2: Plenty to get too. Still as we roll along, we'll

652
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Speaker 2: have some fantasy football conversation today as well too.

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Speaker 4: Wes Shuler, Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network, your tuned.

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal.

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio. Closing down the first hour of the

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Speaker 2: Drive here on a Thursday. Reminder, this is our last

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Speaker 2: show of the week. We'll be back with you on

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Speaker 2: Tuesday to tee up the start of the NFL season,

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Speaker 2: the start of the Steelers slate of course heading to

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Speaker 2: MetLife Stadium. Never been to MetLife Stadium before, Matt. Like,

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Speaker 2: the two stadiums that I would still like to see

665
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: are MetLife and Jerry World. Other than that, I've been

666
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: fortunate to see all the new palaces.

667
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 3: And you've probably been locking a lot of.

668
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: Historic Lambeau and all that stuff, But I still.

669
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 3: I have not been to many. I'm sure you probably because.

670
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: What you've done isn't necessarily like yeah, but yeah, So

671
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see Met Life. I haven't heard the

672
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: best things about it from a spectator standpoint from but

673
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 2: from our kind of standpoint of setting up a broadcast,

674
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: I think it'll be pretty cool.

675
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 3: Nice.

676
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, excited for that. Excited for everything to get

677
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: really going next week. But with that, we've been going

678
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: over some over and unders this week. Let's take a

679
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: look at the NFC East today, Matt. That's the first

680
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: division that's going to be on the docket a week

681
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 2: from today. And I mentioned yesterday when we did the

682
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: AFC that there were four teams with over under of

683
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: eleven and a half that was the highest Baltimore, Buffalo

684
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: and Kansas City and the AFC and of course, the

685
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: defending Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles eleven and a half

686
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: matt their schedules. Their schedule is ranked as the fourth

687
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: most difficulty.

688
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: I know, it's a tough one in the nation.

689
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 2: I think the East in.

690
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 3: General has tough schedules, and the Giants are like the

691
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 3: way bottom of the list when we get to them.

692
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,959
Speaker 4: It has been I don't know.

693
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: I think seventeen seventy six was the last time that

694
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: the NFC East had back to back champions. It's been forever.

695
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 2: But can the Eagles buck that trend this year?

696
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 3: I'm going under and I actually kind of feel stronger

697
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 3: than you might think about it. And strength of schedule

698
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 3: has a lot to do with it. I mean that

699
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 3: you're at the bottom of the league in terms of

700
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 3: the easiest path, you know. I mean, I think that

701
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 3: definitely adds up. They probably have a winning record in

702
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 3: the division, but I don't think they sweep it. I

703
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 3: mean four and two seems like a logical, you know,

704
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 3: end of division records. You're not gonna sneak up on anybody.

705
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 3: I mean, there's there's some truth to that, you know that.

706
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 3: I'm sure without in front of me. They play a

707
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 3: lot of primetime games and difficult travel schedule and things

708
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 3: of that nature. Sure, and I definitely think that. And

709
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 3: we talked about this, like with Saquon Barkley when we

710
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 3: did like the fantasy running back ranks. Most of those

711
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 3: Eagles played a lot more snaps than their opponents this

712
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 3: past year, you know, I mean, you go deep into

713
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 3: the playoffs, you get that surgery a month later, that

714
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 3: clean up on your knee you do a month later

715
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 3: than the other teams, or man, I'm still not back

716
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 3: to one hundred percent, or you know, Lane Johnson, someone

717
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 3: just picking an old guy, you know, like, man, I'm dragging.

718
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 3: And they played a lot of postseason games. And as

719
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 3: great as the Eagles season was, there was a pretty

720
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 3: decent stretch during the season where they did not look

721
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 3: like the best team in the league. You know, like

722
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 3: they're they're asking aj Brown, what's wrong with this team?

723
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 3: He's like passing game, you know, right, And I don't

724
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 3: think Herts is an elite quarterback. So great respect for

725
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 3: the organization. I might even pick them to win Super

726
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 3: Bowls here, but I'm going under.

727
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 4: I also really respect everything that they're doing there.

728
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

729
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, as much as I hate giving a team from

730
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 2: Philadelphia credit, although at least if it's not the Flyers,

731
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 2: I can stomach it. You like the more than the

732
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 2: Flyer certainly, certainly. And I did have a lot of fun.

733
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 2: I worked for that franchise for three years and so

734
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: I still know some people there and had a lot

735
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 2: of fun while I was out there. That was my

736
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: kind of break into the NFL and radio, and it

737
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: was a good time because with the organization when they

738
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 2: won their first ever Super Bowl, which was pretty cool.

739
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: That's really cool.

740
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 4: It was a lot of fun from a from a

741
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 4: work experience. But I think I'm with you on this one.

742
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 2: I still think they will win double digit games, I'm sure,

743
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 2: be really good and.

744
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 4: Be in the playoffs. Yeah, but I just I think

745
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 4: you're right.

746
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: I think last year they had a lot of things

747
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: break their way in the regular season after kind of

748
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 2: a little bit of a rocky start.

749
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 4: And they also it.

750
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 2: Feels like, you know, pretty pretty fortunate the health department

751
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 2: last year as well too. What if Saquon misses two

752
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: or three games, Sure, you know, what if hurts missus

753
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: two or three games, and they're still really good on defense,

754
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: But I don't think they're quite as loaded as they were.

755
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 4: Last year on side.

756
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 3: Corner.

757
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'll go slightly under. Yeah, like I think

758
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 2: they'll win eleven games.

759
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 3: These exercises pretty easy to just over over. They're great,

760
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 3: you know, twelve and six or twelve and five doesn't

761
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 3: seem hard to get to.

762
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 4: It doesn't.

763
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 3: But it's a long year and bad things happen.

764
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 2: Certainly, and it's a tough division as well, as we'll

765
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: see from some of these other over unders division.

766
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 4: No, certainly not.

767
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: They might sweep the Giants, everybody might sweep the Giants,

768
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 2: but we'll get to them in a few minutes. The

769
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: Washington Commanders up next, matt nine and a half is

770
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 2: there over and under this year, and they are kind

771
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: of right in the middle nineteenth easiest schedule in the NFL,

772
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: so twelve, Yeah, they're kind of right right in the

773
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: middle of the packet. Not terrible in terms of that regard,

774
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: not terrible, nineteenth easiest in the NFL. In the over

775
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: under number is nine and a half for a team

776
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: that was in the final four last year.

777
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 3: So I would have guessed, not looking at the graphic,

778
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 3: they were going to be one of the ten and

779
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 3: a half teams. I thought so too, so nine and

780
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 3: a half makes this a little harder because I was

781
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 3: real intent on going under for a couple of reasons.

782
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: They're the oldest team in the league including the Steelers, right,

783
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 3: and they have one of the youngest quarterbacks in the league.

784
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 3: But they invest over and over in Bobby Wagner and

785
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 3: Echolar and Ertz and now Tunsel and Debo and mclaura

786
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 3: and you know, like all older back nine guys, if

787
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 3: not seventeenth to eighteenth hole. Now this is real nerdy,

788
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: But there is a in the analytics world, there is

789
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 3: a principle called the plexiglass principle, and it shows.

790
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 4: Have anything to do with plexico Boris does it.

791
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 3: It is not similar, but this shows up heavily in

792
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 3: the history of the NFL that when a team such

793
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 3: as Washington takes four steps forward, nine out of ten times,

794
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 3: you take at least a small step back one two steps.

795
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

796
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it's probably not just like boom, a giant mother,

797
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 3: may I step forward and then another one and you

798
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 3: win the Super Bowl and this because it's just not

799
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 3: that easy, you know. And like they were eighty or

800
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 3: ninety percent on fourth downs and they went for it

801
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 3: more than anyone Okay, maybe they're better at it than

802
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 3: the Steelers or Green Bay or whoever. But you're not

803
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 3: going to be ninety percent on those and those are

804
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 3: turnovers if you don't get them. You know, like Jayde

805
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 3: and Daniels looks tremendous, But what do you think every

806
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator in the NFC East is doing right now?

807
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 3: They're watching Jayde Daniels film, you know what I mean?

808
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 4: Correct?

809
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 3: And I don't think their defense is particularly good. I

810
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 3: think that there are a lot like the Bengals in

811
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 3: terms of makeup. I think their offense is loaded. I

812
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 3: think they're playing a ton of shootouts. We just talked about.

813
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 3: Their projected points was really high, but I think they're

814
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 3: gonna allow a lot of points too.

815
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 4: I think you're right.

816
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 2: And as a team that is the oldest in the NFL,

817
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 2: it feels like they're gonna be prone to have more

818
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: bumps and bruises than everybody else.

819
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 3: I wish this was ten and a half though, I'd

820
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 3: feel real good about the under.

821
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 2: If it was ten and a half, I would take

822
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 2: the under for sure. If it was eight and a half,

823
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: I think i'd take the over.

824
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the right number.

825
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: Like to me, they feel like a team that will

826
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: win eight or nine games this year.

827
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 3: I don't think they're a super Bowl contender.

828
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 4: I don't either.

829
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 3: Some do and I don't agree with that.

830
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 2: I think they are a playoff contender, yes, yeah, but

831
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 2: I don't think they are a super Bowl contender. Very

832
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 2: tough division. Yeah, I'm gonna go under as well too. Yeah,

833
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go. If it was eight and a half,

834
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: i'd go over. If it was ten and a half,

835
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 2: I'd go under for sure. I'm gonna I'm gonna peg

836
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 2: Washington to go nine and eight this year and maybe

837
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: just miss the playoffs or just sneak.

838
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 3: In to sneak in. And still this is such strides

839
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 3: from where they used to be. To me, last year's

840
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 3: whole goal was just like, get the stink of Daniel

841
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 3: Snyder out of the building.

842
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 4: When was the last time they had back to back

843
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 4: winning seasons. There's probably been a long time.

844
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 3: Now they have a quarterback, I mean, things were going

845
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 3: really well. I just expect a small step back.

846
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 2: Agreed. Dallas Cowboys up next, just a step behind the

847
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: Washington Commanders. Dallas is at eight and a half matt

848
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 2: their schedule, the tenth most difficult in the National Football League.

849
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 3: According to Warren Sharp, so leans towards tough.

850
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,479
Speaker 2: Leans towards tough eight and a half is the number

851
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 2: right now see on Warren Sharp's analysis. It was at

852
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: seven and a half, but they have recently moved up

853
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 2: to eight and a half. Has the Cowboys over under

854
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 2: If it was seven and a half, I would.

855
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 4: Absolutely go over.

856
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm still leaning towards over Are you

857
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: winning record for Dallas this year? Yeah, that's basically what

858
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 2: this question is, asking they got a winning record or

859
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: a losing record.

860
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 3: This is a cop out, but I really wish I

861
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 3: knew if MICHAELH. Parsons was gonna be a Dallas count totally.

862
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a big difference.

863
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 3: If he gets WOP for draft picks and it doesn't

864
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 3: help you win. Now, I think that defense is a

865
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 3: chance to be bad, you know where I think it'll

866
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 3: be average to decent with him. He's that good a player.

867
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go over with you. A lot of it's

868
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 3: just because I trust the offense. I think the coaching

869
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 3: change is going to go in their favor. Their O line,

870
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 3: like the Steelers, is really young, but they've invested in

871
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 3: it a lot with high picks, and that usually pays off.

872
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 3: People forget this about Dak not this past year, but

873
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 3: the year before. He was runner up in the MVP voting.

874
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 2: Right, I mean like he was outstanding.

875
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 3: He was outstanding, and that's more who he is than

876
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 3: in public.

877
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 2: Until last year, excuse me, until last year, those ribs

878
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: that they had out in the break room were.

879
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 3: Getting to they were tasting.

880
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 2: Until last year, I believe the Cowboys were on a

881
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: four year streak of winning twelve or more games. Yeah,

882
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: every season, does that sound right? Until until last year,

883
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 2: I think it was four straight years they won twelve

884
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 2: or more.

885
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw something recently, just wins over the last

886
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 3: ten years, they're like second or third.

887
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 2: Now, that's where kind of the laughing nature of like

888
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: they'd come into the playoffs and fall flat on their

889
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 2: face in the first round every year. Right, But they

890
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: were still going twelve and five in the regular season.

891
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 3: I mean, there's some Pittsburgh similarities there. I know the

892
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 3: organizations could be more different, But when's the last time

893
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 3: you won a Super Bowl? When's the last time you

894
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 3: want a playoff game? You know? Yeah, but they win

895
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 3: a lot of games.

896
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: And that's what this exercise has been.

897
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 3: We're here, Yeah, so I like the over.

898
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 4: I'm going over yeah as well too.

899
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 3: If it was big pickings helps them a lot. Nobody

900
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 3: wants to mean.

901
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: There might be and again, especially pending Michael Parsons, there

902
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 2: might be some Bengals from last year vibes about this

903
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 2: Cowboys team. But the Bengals from last year went nine

904
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,959
Speaker 2: and eight. Still, right right, I think that's about that.

905
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 2: That's my kind of synopsis for Dallas this year, if

906
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 2: I had to guess right now as well, last one

907
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: the New York Giants, the g Men, the Football Giants.

908
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 2: Five and a half is there over and undertied for

909
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: or you know, second worst in the league with the Jets,

910
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: the Saints, and the Titans, and they have they have

911
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 2: the most difficult schedule in the National Football League.

912
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 4: Do the Giants? Matt I take it away?

913
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: This is another I think this is a pretty easy

914
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 2: under for me. Okay, Like, do I see this team

915
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 2: winning six games? No, If there's a scenario where they

916
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 2: don't bottom out and only win two or three, fine, yeah,

917
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: But like if they win five games right now, I

918
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 2: think that's the ceiling.

919
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 4: I'm going under five and a half.

920
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 3: So this one's really interesting to me because if you

921
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 3: don't mind, just pull up their schedule super quick, because

922
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 3: we know it's hard, but when you start rattling off

923
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 3: week after week, it's awful. I mean, because I think

924
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 3: they're favored in like one game this year, going back

925
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 3: to oh my gosh, look at the start of their

926
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 3: nothing easy about it ever.

927
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 2: On the road against the Commanders on the road against

928
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. Back home against the Chiefs LA Chargers at home, Okay,

929
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: on the road to the same I.

930
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 3: Think that's the game they're favored. I think they're favored

931
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 3: in one game this year right.

932
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 2: Now, back home against the Eagles, out to Mile High Waffel.

933
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: Back on the road against the Eagles, I mean, hosting

934
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 2: the Niners like they might win one.

935
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 3: They could be one and ten at this.

936
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: Point, one and nine absolutely, and then again kind of

937
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 2: like what we talked about in Cleveland, if you're one

938
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: or nine, two and eight to where are you're going

939
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 2: from there?

940
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 3: I mean, that's kind of where I'm bringing it up,

941
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 3: because I Russell Wilson, no matter what, they're gonna be

942
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 3: way better at quarterback than they were last year. Say

943
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 3: what you want about Russ, but he's a lot better

944
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 3: than Daniel Jones, Tommy Cutlets and right or right. But

945
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 3: there's gonna be a time here where Jackson Dart gets

946
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 3: the call. I mean, they're not going to have a

947
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 3: winning record in November. There's no chance. I mean, it's

948
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: just too brutal. They Also, the short end of it is,

949
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 3: I think the Giants are in a way better spot

950
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 3: than they were a year ago and will have a

951
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 3: better year. I just don't they'll win any games, you know,

952
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 3: Like their best offensive lineman, the only good one they have,

953
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 3: Andrew Thomas, missed.

954
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 4: The entire yees and he's back.

955
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 3: They're d line now with Abdull Carter rivals of Steelers

956
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 3: for best in the league. And I think they have

957
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 3: a really good defense. Neighbors to me is an utter star,

958
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 3: better quarterback, play stability, whether you like the coach or not,

959
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 3: at least to bringing back the same staff, like, I

960
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 3: think they'll be noticeably better. And I hope for Giants

961
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 3: Nation that it doesn't go this way. Boy, you made

962
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 3: big shrides. Dart looks like the guy, but you end

963
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 3: up with three wins because you had the worst schedule ever.

964
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 3: And we're gonna fire everyone and the new staff doesn't

965
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 3: like Dart. You know, that's just how the league, and they

966
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 3: take nuss Meyer or whatever, and then the Steelers trade

967
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 3: for Darder or you know whatever. You know, Like, it's

968
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 3: just the stability of the Steelers goes a long way

969
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 3: when that happens so often to teams. I'm gonna go over.

970
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 3: But I think it's a really dumb beat.

971
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 2: I'm glad we're sitting here like on some of these

972
00:44:58,600 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: today though.

973
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 3: That's the only reason I kind of did it, because

974
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 3: I knew the schedule was bad. But when you put

975
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 3: the graphic up right in front of the face, I'm like,

976
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 3: where are the wins coming from?

977
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: Especially again at the start of the season two, and

978
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: if you start one and nine or two and.

979
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 3: Eight, like, it's not gonna get much better, even if.

980
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 4: Your schedule gets easier.

981
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 2: Everyone's already thinking about CanCon and where they're going in January.

982
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I am my Hammi's hurting. Should I play

983
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 3: or not?

984
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 2: Business decision?

985
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah? Like I see that Saints game, I'm like, Okay,

986
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 3: they're they're favored in that one, I assume, but it's

987
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:29,959
Speaker 3: in New Orleans they.

988
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 2: Could be going for at that point, right, and even

989
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: if they win that one, one and four, then they

990
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: got the Eagles, the Broncos and the Eagles the.

991
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 4: Next three weeks.

992
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 3: Right, and like some of the games.

993
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 4: You're Denver at mile High and some of the.

994
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 3: Games are maybe winnable. I see on there, like the

995
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 3: Bears and the Raiders. Sure those guys are better teams

996
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 3: than the Giants. I mean there's the Packers. Commanders play.

997
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 2: I mean that schedule like tough.

998
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 3: They play the NFC North. That's a terrible schedule. Tough, yeah,

999
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 3: real tough.

1000
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a I'm an easy under on that. Yeah,

1001
00:45:58,440 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: five and a half.

1002
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 3: I don't feel good about you, Matt.

1003
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 2: That's the NFC East. We'll do the rest of the

1004
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 2: NFC next week, selling a plan to you. How about

1005
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: this final hour this week is going to be all

1006
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: fantasy football. We will get into your wide receiver power

1007
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: round to start the hour, and then we'll do some

1008
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 2: mock draft style stuff to close down today and this

1009
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: week we'll do all of that in hour number two.

1010
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,040
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1011
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,000
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