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Speaker 1: All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in

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Speaker 1: the Bonus with Doug Gottlieb.

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Speaker 2: What up Doug Gottlieb Show in the Bonus Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: iHeart where you are. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome in.

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Speaker 3: Do do do do do do so.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow guys, we head to the US Virgin Islands. I

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Speaker 2: will be unable because of our travel time to do

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Speaker 2: the show. Never been to the Caribbean, never been to

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Speaker 2: the Caribbean. And I think the win for a lot

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Speaker 2: of the guys just like, hey, we don't need a passport,

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Speaker 2: like Okay, have any of you guys been either of

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Speaker 2: you guys been to the Virgin Islands.

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Speaker 4: I have. I've been to Uh, Saint Thomas and Saint John's.

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Speaker 2: Okay, great, we're going to Thomas. Yeah, we are going

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Speaker 2: to Saint Thomas. We're gonna take Camran into Saint Saint

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Speaker 2: John's for a day. What uh what do I need

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Speaker 2: to know?

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Speaker 4: A y, you know, it's been a it's been a

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Speaker 4: long time. It's probably been over twenty years. What do

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Speaker 4: you need to know? Just bring your sun block, bring

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Speaker 4: your swim trunks. M maybe you'll eat some conk you

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Speaker 4: ever had conk, Doug.

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Speaker 2: I haven't is it conk ers a kunch.

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Speaker 4: It's conk. That's how I've always said it.

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Speaker 2: So conk Jason, and I know this is a literary reference, right, Jay,

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Speaker 2: I mean this is whoever had the conk shell in

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Speaker 2: Lord of the Flies, right controlled the group. We're talking

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Speaker 2: about the same counk. Correct.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a it's it's it's like a mollusk.

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Speaker 4: It's the shell is sort of shaped like I don't

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Speaker 4: even know how it's shaped. It's got little spikes on it.

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Speaker 4: But you can make it into a hornooo, you can

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Speaker 4: blow it. But they make it into all kinds of stews,

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Speaker 4: conk fritter. Some conk sanctuaries have been wiped out in

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Speaker 4: the last fifteen years or so from hurricanes, but it's

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Speaker 4: still a pretty popular food item down there in the Caribbean.

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Speaker 4: I would definitely do that. Try. They love they love

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Speaker 4: like macaroni and cheese cast role. That was one thing.

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Speaker 4: There's a couple of dishes in the Caribbean. They're like staples.

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Speaker 2: So now do they speak with like that a Jamaican.

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Speaker 4: Accent or like, yeah, there's sort of a little bit

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Speaker 4: of like a British lilt. There's a little bit of

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Speaker 4: like an American English British, a little bit of Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's sort of the Jamaican kind of accent on on

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Speaker 4: any of the islands I've been to, like Grenada too,

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Speaker 4: I've been. I've been all over down there. This is

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Speaker 4: all my mom's doing when we were growing up. She

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Speaker 4: wanted to check out those places. O.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's that's pretty cool. Uh what about you there, Jays,

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Speaker 2: Do you never traveled to the Caribbean?

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Speaker 5: Negative? I have zero to add to this. I do

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Speaker 5: know that most of the Caribbean has been divided up

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Speaker 5: by conquerors over the past couple three or four or

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Speaker 5: five centuries. So you do have like interesting of Europe throughout.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got French, you got Spanish, and you got English, right,

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Speaker 2: British or whatever.

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Speaker 5: I think. Thenother ones played a played a big role too,

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Speaker 5: the Dutch, some Dutch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah which ones are the Dutch though? The Dutch of

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Speaker 2: they have they have the West Indies and then they

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Speaker 2: have gosh, dang it, one of the other countries that's

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Speaker 2: down there they have shoot.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, we said French, Spanish, Uh, you know, British

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Speaker 4: or you know American territories and then yeah, Dutch. Uh

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Speaker 4: but yeah, Like if you go to some of the

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Speaker 4: islands like Martinique, I think they only speak French. It's

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Speaker 4: really interesting, like they also they speak a little English,

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Speaker 5: It looks like Aruba and Carousel or Aruba. And remember

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Speaker 5: the nether Ones is also called Hallwand and they speak Dutch.

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Speaker 5: So something is strange going on there. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what the difference is between all of that.

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Speaker 5: I would rather just have one item, just call them

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Speaker 4: I think people don't call it Holland anymore. I mean

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I so is Carousel. And that's all the

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Speaker 2: Saint Lucia, Martinique, Guadaloupe, Saint John's. Okay, now I see

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Speaker 2: San Martin. The British version islands are Saint Croix in

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Speaker 4: What I think of when I think of Caribbean. I

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Speaker 4: I can't even conceptualize it. I just know of the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they are.

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Speaker 4: There are some beautiful white sand beaches down there in

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Speaker 4: different parts. And unfortunately a hurricane did some some bad

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Speaker 4: damage to Jamaica recently, but a lot of these different

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Speaker 4: and it's just awful. But Puerto Rico has been through

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Speaker 4: that too. But yeah, they're just desperate for your your

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Speaker 4: tourism money. So spend spend away.

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Speaker 2: Okay, anything that I'm supposed to bring back from the

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Speaker 2: US verst downs like, yeah, you gotta gotta bring this back.

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Speaker 2: Should I bring back conch?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's like shell Tinier, conk con I say, conk

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Speaker 4: conk shells you can find sometimes you can find them

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Speaker 4: out on the on the beach, but usually they get

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Speaker 4: some cool shells. People make little hand woven items, you know,

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Speaker 4: necklaces and stuff, and they're definitely grateful for your business.

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Speaker 4: So uh really, I always had great experiences down there,

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Speaker 4: nice people, and uh, you know, it's it's island life. Man,

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Speaker 4: you're on island time. Don't try to rush your don't

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Speaker 4: try to rush your meal. You're an island time. It's

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Speaker 2: No doubt, jay Stuh your next place to visit as where.

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Speaker 5: I've told you before, there's a there's a place in

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Speaker 5: South Africa where you could bungee jump the the highest

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Speaker 5: and more more deathly deadliest cavern in the world. South

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Speaker 5: Africa doesn't have uh what do you call it liability laws?

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Speaker 5: They don't really have any kind of they're not a

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Speaker 5: litigious society like we are. So you could bunge jump

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Speaker 5: from the ankles too, by the way, because the last

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Speaker 5: time I bunge it it was from the chest. It's

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Speaker 5: a little bit more constrictive and safe. I want no safety.

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Speaker 5: I want from the ankles and I want this cavern

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Speaker 5: in South Africa where I could go down the steepest

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Speaker 6: I want to go to.

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Speaker 2: I haven't been to Greece in forever. I'd like to

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Speaker 2: go to Greece. I like to go to Italy. I

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Speaker 2: had to go to Spain, but I'd like to do

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Speaker 2: a Part of me wants to do where you just

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Speaker 2: hang out and you know, enjoy like beach night life.

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Speaker 2: But part of me wants to just get like a

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Speaker 2: Airbnb in like a cute little town and live for

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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks and see what that's like.

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Speaker 4: You know, when you're down there, Doug, so you know

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Speaker 4: you've got just this trip in front of you, and

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Speaker 4: then all those other great places, the destinations you can

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Speaker 4: plan out, you know, for over the course of your life.

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Speaker 4: But have yourself a Caribe Caribbean logger. That's one of

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Speaker 4: the big beers down there. Caribe crib like the beginning

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Speaker 4: of Caribbean. And then if you find yourself the only

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Speaker 4: one I've ever had besides Caribe is a Medaia Light,

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Speaker 4: which is like the beer of Puerto Rican. So if

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Speaker 4: you find yourself there in Puerto Rico, have.

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Speaker 2: A media lte Mediahlte.

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 4: But when you're in st you'll be at Saint John's

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Speaker 4: and Saint Thomas. See if they can have yourself a

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Speaker 4: carib There's nothing special about it. It's just you're just

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Speaker 4: drinking the popular beer of the island.

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Speaker 2: One show. Here's Jonas Knox and Brady Quinn talking about

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Speaker 2: the Raiders.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what my expectations were for them. I

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Speaker 7: didn't think that they were a playoff team, but I

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Speaker 7: just thought that they would be further along than this,

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Speaker 7: and they're nowhere close. And it just seems like Pete

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Speaker 7: Carroll's aging by the game. The way this season's gone.

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Speaker 8: They just don't have what they need on the roster.

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Speaker 8: I will continually keep saying that Gino Smith's in a really,

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Speaker 8: like when you didn't have him, you don't have anything,

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Speaker 8: and he is that chess piece that that's a true

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Speaker 4: But you have to have more.

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Speaker 8: And when the run game's not there with Genty like

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Speaker 8: last night, it's just there's not really much you can do.

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Speaker 8: And that's the tough spot that Geno's in, the Raiders

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Speaker 8: But think about it like that is a tough spot

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Speaker 2: In when you're handing the ball off to genty. There

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Speaker 2: the defense. They don't have it. I agree this is

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Speaker 2: you go three different gms in three different years, and

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Speaker 2: what do you expect to have happened? It is not.

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Speaker 2: You have to have some kind of consistency. Here's Dan

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Speaker 2: Patrick talking about Lane Kiffin in Ole.

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Speaker 9: Miss Lane Kiffin's family is taking a private tour of

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Speaker 9: Florida and LSU. Once again, Lane is not, but his

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Speaker 9: this was is somebody leaking this for negotiations? Because you

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Speaker 9: want leverage and Lane has leverage. You got the best

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Speaker 9: year old Missus ever had. They're going to be in

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Speaker 9: the playoffs and all of a sudden LSU and Florida

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Speaker 9: open up. I know it'll never happen, and in this

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Speaker 9: case it doesn't make sense. But one time I'd love

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Speaker 9: for an athletic director to say, are you looking at

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Speaker 9: other jobs? Are you looking at other jobs? Does that

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Speaker 9: violate your contract? Like I would, I would say, decide,

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Speaker 9: like if you're sending your family, why is your family

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Speaker 9: I know you know the athletic director is going to say, no,

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Speaker 9: one time somebody would just say, you know what, we

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Speaker 9: hired you, we pay you. Okay, we're in this together. Now,

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Speaker 11: Say.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of the Doug Gottlieb

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Speaker 2: Let's find out who What's annoying? Jason Stewart.

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Speaker 1: And now it's your annoy and Doug.

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Speaker 5: We've had about forty eight hours since the spitting incident

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Speaker 1: I have no message.

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Speaker 3: If someone spits in your face, do what comes natural.

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Speaker 7: He was saying that you spit on him?

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Speaker 7: So what what do you think prompted the reaction from him?

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Speaker 2: Well, you don't like some of us worries I told

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Speaker 5: So he denied it.

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Speaker 5: He the team did not make him available for uh

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Speaker 5: one game unpaid suspension. Right, So he has not taken accountability.

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Speaker 5: He has not apologized. And again the sentiment in a

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Speaker 5: The reporters couldn't get out of the building before the kid,

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Speaker 5: it speaks to the leadership of the Eagles. The kid

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Speaker 5: Shouldn't have done what he did. It was stupid. Jamar

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Speaker 2: Oh, there's no doubt that. I mean, Jayla Ramsey has

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Speaker 5: Well, I think that it should factor into the appeal.

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Speaker 5: maybe that was considered with Jalen Carter. I mean, there

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Speaker 6: It's the approach we take. We're gonna we're gonna dominate

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Speaker 6: I don't know that a lot of these kids nowadays,

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Speaker 5: I love the comment, and I know he's I know

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Speaker 2: Uh, it's possible. It's possible. You know, it's really hard

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Speaker 2: it's like some guys, you do wonder do you care

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Speaker 5: I like it terms of a paycheck culture. That's a

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Speaker 5: great one. Yeah. So last I don't know if you

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Speaker 5: this is how gambling works. Somebody bet three thousand dollars

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Speaker 10: Mail fucking Queen Apple looking at it? Stupid big ad Tampa,

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Speaker 10: Jimmy Butler. Many don't give a fuck. Don see stupid

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Speaker 10: Yay, bro, I've put three thousand, I went thirty. Why

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Speaker 10: do you have thirty parts? Jimmy Butla, Why do you

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Speaker 5: So there's a disturbing to say the least. And I'm

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Speaker 5: seems like a real easy thing for cops to uh

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Speaker 3: It brings added pressure, It brings, you know, a distraction

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Speaker 3: you know, we really have to be careful, you know,

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Speaker 3: with how close we let it get to the game, uh,

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Speaker 3: and the security of the people who are involved in it,

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Speaker 3: because again, it does carry a weight. You know, a

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Speaker 3: lot of times the people who are gambling like this

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Speaker 3: money you know, pays their light bill or plays their

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Speaker 3: rent uh and then the emotions that come from that.

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Speaker 3: So I do think we're walking a very fine line

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Speaker 3: and we have to be extremely careful in protecting everybody

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Speaker 3: who's involved.

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Speaker 5: Remember that SoundBite went by the boards, went pretty quickly

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Speaker 5: through the news system, and I think that he's trying

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Speaker 5: to say on the alarm, like at some point, something

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Speaker 5: really bad is going to happen to one of these players,

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Speaker 5: and we just didn't quite listen along the way because

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Speaker 5: everyone's making so much money off of the legalized gambling.

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Speaker 5: But there's a reason why gambling wasn't legal for many,

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Speaker 5: many decades, and it's because the downstream effect of it

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Speaker 5: is the depravity that it causes in society. And if

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Speaker 5: you're betting five hundred dollars because your rent is a thousand,

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Speaker 5: and you lose that five hundred dollars and you have

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Speaker 5: nothing to lose, and then you are in physical contact

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Speaker 5: with somebody who cost you your month's rent, and who

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Speaker 5: knows what you're capable of doing, especially when you add

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Speaker 5: mental health and everything in there. But I think that

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Speaker 5: like comments like JB. Bickerstaff, I always get the same impression,

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Speaker 5: like that's a really smart thing to say, and he's

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Speaker 5: trying to sound an alarm, but it's to deaf ears

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Speaker 5: because everybody's making so much money off of this.

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Speaker 2: No question at all, there's any question at all that

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Speaker 2: we we have kind of opened up Pandora's box that

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Speaker 2: you can't close back up, and there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: bad that comes out of it, and we choose to

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Speaker 2: ignore it. I don't know what to do either with it.

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Speaker 2: It's like I want to, you know, when I played

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Speaker 2: in college, Jason, I don't think we've ever had this discussion.

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Speaker 2: Coach Sutton used to always he know the lines and

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Speaker 2: neither way to it ever work for you, Like Vegas

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Speaker 2: thinks you're six points better than Vegas doesn't know anything.

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Speaker 2: You know, Vegas doesn't even think you're any good. You're

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Speaker 2: four point dogs at a home right, So we would

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Speaker 2: joke about how much he knew the lines. But now

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Speaker 2: when you find out a line, like do you mention

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Speaker 2: it to your players? Do people think that you're gambling

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Speaker 2: on it?

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Speaker 9: Whatever?

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Speaker 2: Like it's it's crazy, it's crazy, how accessible things are crazy.

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Speaker 5: So I've got just the kind of reaction to the

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Speaker 5: spitting incident, Kirby Smart's comments and uh, just that very

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Speaker 5: disturbing sound of a better getting access to yell at

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Speaker 5: Jimmy Butler.

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Speaker 2: I would say the very very the access to Jimmy Butler.

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Speaker 2: We talked about things that are annoying, like you bet

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Speaker 2: you lost, that's on you. Don't blame the players, you're.

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Speaker 1: Noting why are we doing this because we can?

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Speaker 5: So bo Nicks has been getting a lot of crap

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Speaker 5: on social media and from analysts over the past couple

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Speaker 5: of weeks. He said last week that he doesn't look

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Speaker 5: at his social media and his teammate Adam Troutman after

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Speaker 5: the Win on Sunday took up for Bonnix.

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Speaker 12: First off, if you're talking about bow online, you're a coward,

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Speaker 12: absolute coward. But want to say that and proven and

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Speaker 12: guard him a little bit, But I mean it says

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Speaker 12: a lot. You know, he he blanks it out and

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Speaker 12: we talked about it this week. You know, we don't

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Speaker 12: care what other people think. We know what we have

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Speaker 12: in the building and we know what he's made of,

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Speaker 12: and we don't really care what people have to say.

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Speaker 12: So Dragon Slayers sixty nine with his seven to eleven

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Speaker 12: slurpy in his mom's basement. I don't give a shit

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Speaker 12: what yes to say, right, and Bo doesn't either.

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Speaker 2: How good was that he did not do Corvette Guy though,

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Speaker 2: thank god? I mean Corvet Guy would have taken it

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Speaker 2: really personal. Why could we play it for you because

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Speaker 2: we can't. That's it for the end the Bonus Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I Got the radio show every day three to five

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