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Speaker 1: My next guest has over forty years of leadership in

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Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversations. The leader of the

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Speaker 1: business with them in public. And that's what your book

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Speaker 1: When we talk about different kinds of friends. You know,

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Speaker 1: who hosts a very popular YouTube cooking show called Feast

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Speaker 1: of Fiction. With his co host Ashley Adams. They create

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Speaker 1: their real life interpretation of fictional dishes to pay homage

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Speaker 1: and the genuine geeky and live the way that's pure genius.

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Speaker 1: Right there, I'll just tell you right now the fact

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Speaker 1: He's on the show to talk about their new cookbook,

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Speaker 1: their new cookbook, The Feast of Fiction Kitchen, their Feast

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Speaker 1: of Fiction popular YouTube channel, and his role and Disneys

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Speaker 1: new live action movie that he's co starring in called Mulan.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you've heard of that Mulan. Please welcome to Money

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Speaker 1: Making Conversations. My man, Jimmy Wong, how are you doing, sir?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great. Thank you so much, glad to have

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Speaker 1: you had me on, and thank you for the very

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Speaker 1: kind words as well. Kind of worry. Come on, jim Jimmy,

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Speaker 1: what you're not gonna do is come on the show

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Speaker 1: laid back. I've seen all this energy I've seen I've

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Speaker 1: seen selling. I'll see you take a pie in the face.

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Speaker 1: I know you're a gamer now you Thank you for

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Speaker 1: coming on the show. I would appreciate the nice statements

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Speaker 1: that you say about me. So wait, what what Jimmy?

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Speaker 1: Am I gonna get? I'm not going to get Jimmy

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Speaker 1: that that's exciting. That makes me laugh and I go,

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Speaker 1: he's crazy, he's a nut, He's a fool. That I

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Speaker 1: said a YouTube channel. Who is the real Jimmy? Maybe

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Speaker 1: I should ask you that question. The real Jimmy is

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Speaker 1: probably someone that has too much on his plate. Now,

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Speaker 1: when you said too much on your plate, what does

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Speaker 1: that me? Well, I mean last week was quite an

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Speaker 1: interesting one given the current world circumstances. Actually, this whole

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Speaker 1: you know, last two months is they're interesting. Mulan was

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Speaker 1: originally played to come out in March, which obviously was

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Speaker 1: pushed because we want to keep everyone safe. The cookbook, however,

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Speaker 1: is a physical print thing and the digital thing, and

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Speaker 1: so that actually didn't need to change its release date,

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Speaker 1: which was last week in the April. So you know,

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Speaker 1: there's been a lot of releases and stuff around all

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Speaker 1: that stuff to do all the promotion that you're not

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Speaker 1: going out and doing a book tour, but you still

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Speaker 1: need to be very much up to date on interviews

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Speaker 1: and everything else. You need to make sure you get

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Speaker 1: the word out there because selling a book is you know,

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Speaker 1: it's no one easy simple task. Unfortunately, well you have

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Speaker 1: you have. The great thing about it is that I've

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Speaker 1: been fortunate. I've managed to harvey and we had three

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Speaker 1: number one best sellers. Our first book sold over three

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Speaker 1: million copies. Collecula they think like a man. It was

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Speaker 1: translating in the thirty languages. So I know what you mean.

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Speaker 1: We just a lot of work. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: would love to think that you just write a book

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Speaker 1: and people buy it. You have to promote it, you

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Speaker 1: have to you have to be in their face and

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Speaker 1: and unfortunately this situation, you can't do any book signings,

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Speaker 1: which really does enhance book sales and also allows you

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Speaker 1: to beat your fans. And so, like I said, the

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Speaker 1: book is available now. Uh, I'm pretty sure you're doing

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Speaker 1: like that. So whatever works. Right before we get to

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Speaker 1: the to the to the YouTube challenge. But let's go

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Speaker 1: back to the movie Boulan. Okay, you know Disney is

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Speaker 1: big into live action. You know last year Lion King

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Speaker 1: Starr and Beyonce it came out, It made over a

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Speaker 1: billion dollars at the box office. Aladdin with Will Smith

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Speaker 1: it made over a billion, and then we had in

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen The Beauty and the Beast with Emma Watson.

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Speaker 1: Now we have Mulan coming out Now, I'm a big

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Speaker 1: fan of the of the nineteen eight and Mulan would

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Speaker 1: start Eddie Murphy. Now, that character, the dragon sidekick that

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Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy played in that movie, will not be in

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Speaker 1: this live action version. Correct, yes, correct, that is not

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Speaker 1: a mooshoe that the beloved dragon sidekicks from the original

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Speaker 1: Mulan is not in this new movie. Okay, but you

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Speaker 1: play the beloved link correct. Yeah, So there are some

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Speaker 1: It's an adaptation that's not a straight one for one recreation.

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Speaker 1: It's also different than that. This version is not a musical.

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Speaker 1: So that's actually the first Disney live action realm that

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Speaker 1: the trailers, so what would that be and say that

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Speaker 1: when I when I go through your bio, I see actor,

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Speaker 1: I see Holst, I see chef, I see seecret songwriter,

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Speaker 1: I see gamer, what what what any particular lanes that

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Speaker 1: like Trouble West. Gaming is something that I've just been

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Speaker 1: doing since a very very young age, and it's also

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Speaker 1: I get or the things that opportunities I see. You know,

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Speaker 1: on someone that's podcasts for a decent amount of time,

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Speaker 1: So being able to just present information in the clear

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Speaker 1: concesse way to people is something that I like doing

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Speaker 1: and it comes naturally to me. Um. I love acting

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Speaker 1: to don't get me wrong. Why I moved to LA

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Speaker 1: originally was to be an actor. But it's not an

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Speaker 1: easy world out there coming any minority groups in general.

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Speaker 1: I'm onnority. I know, as you get older, the opportunities

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Speaker 1: But so you see the value of having multiple strings

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Speaker 1: preach that to people who are trying to pursue in

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Speaker 1: any lane of entertainment that you're in, especially acting. Correct, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's I'm in a very unique position. I

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Speaker 1: don't think most people can just pick up their lives

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Speaker 1: And for me, you know, the reason I started pursuing

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Speaker 1: the acting industry was because of the lack of opportunity.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, new booming industry

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Speaker 1: made perfect sense to at the very least see what

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Speaker 1: what your brand is in your brain, and your brand

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Speaker 1: is very diverse. Let's let's talk about Mulan a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Because of it's a big disnel movie. It comes with

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Speaker 1: a lot of it's gonna open strong domestically, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: industry over there. So will you get an opportunity? You

642
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Speaker 1: know you were cash for this? Why do you? Why

643
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: do you? Why do you lay that down? Do you do?

644
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: You see it as just a stepping stone one of

645
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: the many things that come in your life. Are you?

646
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: Are you way the importance of what it could do

647
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: for your brand right now? Because you are a brand,

648
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: right Jimmy? I guess yeah, I guess you could describe

649
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: my essence as a brand. It's the sort of thing

650
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: that you are constantly keeping in mind when you go

651
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: out to make videos or to even approach other brands

652
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: to see if they would like to sponsoring content. You

653
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: need to think of yourself as more than just like

654
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: a person. You're a personality and influencer. There are a

655
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: lot of different ways to skin it um when it

656
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: comes to a movie like Mulan You. I think the

657
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 1: first impression that I had when I got the role,

658
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: was like, this is it. This is my big break

659
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: the language that has commonly used for actors in Hollywood

660
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 1: and the movies and writing and all that um. And

661
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: you know, that was almost three years ago at this point.

662
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 1: I first time I was gonna be in the movie,

663
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: you know, and then the next year filmed, and then

664
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: other year and stuff for plus production. So over time

665
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: you get to sort of resample that same plate, that

666
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 1: same dish that got you so excited in the first place,

667
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: and get a little more context, to get a little

668
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: more understanding about what it means for you and what

669
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: your career is and all that stuff. And I think

670
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: that the most important fact that was currently that I've

671
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: been I've realized, especially after this delay, is that this

672
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 1: movie is obviously a great milestone. It's a stepping stone,

673
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: it's it's a lot of different things. But what it's

674
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: even't going to do is be the one thing that

675
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: breaks it all open, because that's not solely on the

676
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: movie to do. You know, you as a person, you know,

677
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: my character's name is Link, my character's name is not Moulan.

678
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: I'm not the main character of the movie. I'm a

679
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: side character, but I'm in a lot of the movie,

680
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: So I need to make sure that I manage my

681
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: expectations and also understand where I'm coming from when I

682
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: got to promote the movie and talk about it, and

683
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: also understand that, like, hey, this isn't going to instantly

684
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: make you famous. Nothing really does, unless it's like a

685
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: sex tape or something. But what this will do is

686
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: provide opportunities. And if you're able to, you know, manifest

687
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: what you want from those opportunities or take advantage of

688
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: those situations that arise, then you're going to find yourself

689
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: in a much more comfortable position because you're at least

690
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: in more control of what's happening instead of just sort

691
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: of saying, hey, I hope this mix it all work

692
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: and then letting the sort of the river flow from there. Well,

693
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: it's really important because it is a you know, it's

694
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: a place as you know, being that African American. With

695
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: certain movies come out that specifically impact who I am

696
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: as a person, who I am as my race, it

697
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: puts an extra layer of importance zone there is this

698
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: Is this movie important to you? I mean yeah, absolutely, Like,

699
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: like I was interviewed by another African American on the

700
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: Red carpet and he was like, how excited are you?

701
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: And I was like, I mean, how excited where you

702
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: when Black Panther came out? Like yeah, I mean like

703
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: we can share some Jim Jim. That was that that

704
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: was our moving that that that's our moving that, you know,

705
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: Black Panther. Like, I mean, here's the thing. When you

706
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 1: are a marginalized group or a minority and you don't

707
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: have as much representation as the majority, then you kind

708
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: of just have to even let's say the Black Panther

709
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: was I love like other by the way, I thought

710
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: was a great movie. But let's just say in an

711
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: altar reality, Black Panther was a bad movie. Yes it

712
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: was bad. The writing was bad, that everything was bad.

713
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 1: It was still in a low voice has to become

714
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: people's de facto movies because just there hasn't been anything

715
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: else that exists like it. So that's like the position

716
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: that I think marginalized groups and minority groups are put

717
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: in that people don't realize is that sometimes you can't

718
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: ask for you know, the world, when you get something

719
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: like this, sometimes you just have to clasp your hands

720
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: and go, man, I really hope this is good, because

721
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: we really don't have that much else out that are

722
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: representing us. I can, however, say it was confidence that

723
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: both Black Panther and The One are great movies. So

724
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: it's amazing to be able to say, oh, great, that's awesome,

725
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a good movie. Uh, it's going

726
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: to represent a lot of people in a lot of cultures,

727
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: but more importantly open the doors for more filmmakers and

728
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: young ones especially to come out there and say, Hey,

729
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: I want to make a movie about my Asian culture

730
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 1: or my Plank culture and hopefully be empowered by movies

731
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: like this existing to say that they can. I do

732
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: you want to talk about touch on this a little

733
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: bit before we get into YouTube job, because I think

734
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: it was because as minorities, you know, a lot of

735
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: people don't understand the things that we have to deal with.

736
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: And I wanted to go back to that situation that

737
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: happen to you in college and how you felt about

738
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: it and give us some detail and then how you

739
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: reacted to it, which led to a very popular music

740
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: video that you created. Talk to us about that because

741
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: a lot of people do understand as a minority that

742
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: they might think it's funny and cute, but it really

743
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: plays back in a different manner when it affects us

744
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: talk to us, Jimmy. Yeah, that's a great that's a

745
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: great way of describing how I saw that at the time.

746
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: To back in t read after college, I was in

747
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: Los Angeles trying to pursue it as an actor, and

748
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: after a year sort of you know, just deagling around

749
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: not really doing much, I decided, you know, let's make

750
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: music videos of this music. And right around that time,

751
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: there was a sorority student from u c l A

752
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: that decided that she was going to launch on her

753
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: own content creation uh kick, and it would start by

754
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: vlogging from her computer about people and things that she

755
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: did not And the very first video she ever made,

756
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: and the only videoship made to that matter, was about

757
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: Asians in the library and specifically how loud they were

758
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: being and how disruptive that she felt they were being

759
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: when she was trying to study for her own work,

760
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: and she created a racist caricature impression of them as

761
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 1: well in the video, and unfortunately for her, back fared

762
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: quite magnificently. The video itself was viral. News outlets everywhere

763
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: picked it up nearly going who is this person of

764
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: why are they being such a dumbo? Essentially that no

765
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: one really called her a dumbo, and you know, to

766
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: her face, um and death threats are flying in. And

767
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: this person was receiving a lot of flak for this

768
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: video shop post because it was very clearly just racist

769
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: in nature, you know, in like the very benign way.

770
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: This person in retrospect just was trying to make a

771
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: comedy vlog and clearly didn't realize that her brand and

772
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: humor was not only offensive, but it was a caricature

773
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: of one that was based heavily in racist stereotype. So

774
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: as a result, I made a music video that sort

775
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: of took the entire encounter and reframed it and tried

776
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: to give her an out. If that makes sense, just

777
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: say like, hey, what you're saying, you know everyone's misunderstanding you.

778
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: I just get it. You're trying to say that you

779
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: love us, blah blah blah, and the start of put

780
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: it into a song and took it in a satirical,

781
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: such parstical way where it basically mocked her but encouraged

782
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: her and glorified at the time. As a result, that

783
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 1: response to a very vitriolic situation went viral. And five million.

784
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: Don't don't see people just throw their word out their

785
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: viral five million? You a is a phenomenon. Okay, that's

786
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: a that's a slap in the phase that you that

787
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: you should have done that. And people reacted to it,

788
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 1: and well do you see that was that was key

789
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 1: to use your creative system? Okay, man, what I do?

790
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: People react to it because you know, we all need

791
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: that little stepping stone of going man, I have talent. Uh,

792
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: I just want somebody to understand it. And you did

793
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: this just like as a as an improv moment, I

794
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: guess of creativity and it was viral. What was the

795
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: next day after that? I sort of described it to

796
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: people as like a tidal wave that hit my career.

797
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: But I wasn't strong enough or you know, in this case,

798
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: mature enough and had enough years in the industry to

799
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 1: know how to ride the way about just sort of

800
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: carried along fire, which is just as fine, especially they're

801
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: starting out. Um, just because that way of activity and

802
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: attention and potential you know, really exploded and it was

803
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,439
Speaker 1: great to see it happen and all because I think

804
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,919
Speaker 1: it was a common thread and something I still see today,

805
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: which is people especially marginalized groups of minorities need of voice,

806
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: and they need a way to be able to communicate

807
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: their needs and wants to the world in the way

808
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: that's going to be heard and respective. And you know,

809
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: we still see this every single day in modern America

810
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: with black lives matters and with the recent outbreak of

811
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: racist tacts against Asians, like, there are still many issues

812
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: that people need, you know, we need strong voice and

813
00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: to be able to speak out, to be able to

814
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: stand behind. And I didn't realize that when I made

815
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: the video, but what I did was addressing a source

816
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: spot in what what has now sort of materialized itself

817
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: in modern day America is like, hey, this is still

818
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: very much a real source spot, that it still exists,

819
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: and that there's a lot of fear in xinophobia. How

820
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: do we combat that in a way that's not just

821
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: you know, taking an eye for an eye. First of all,

822
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: congratulations for standing up for congratulations for doing it in

823
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: the creative manner, and congratulations for an impacting and you know,

824
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 1: not so much changing people, but making people aware. That's

825
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: all that's all you can do. You can't change a person,

826
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: but if you can make them aware and make them

827
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: think about what their actions. It can't make a difference

828
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: and slow down that level of ignorance that people minorities

829
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: often have to deal with on a regular basis. And

830
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: a lot of people go, what's the big deal? There's

831
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: always a big deal when you walk in the room,

832
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: and you know, I always telling people a walk in

833
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: a room, I'm a black man, I'm black. You know,

834
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: you know you can't you can't. You can't think I'm white.

835
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: You can't think I'm Jewish, you can't think I'm a tag.

836
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: You can't think of some other skies, you know. And

837
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: I deal with that, and I championed myself when I

838
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: realized there's a responsibility that comes with that. And because

839
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 1: of that, I don't allow it to to to become

840
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: the driving force to why I'm successful. I'm successful because

841
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: I've been blessed with a lot of talents. And you've

842
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: been blessed with a lot of talents too, Jimmy, and

843
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: I transition that to the whole YouTube channel that you

844
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: launched in twenty with Ashley Adams tell us because that's

845
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: a phenomenal, that's a that's a big that's a big deal.

846
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: It's the same year, but that's a big deal because

847
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: it started as an idea, but now one point three

848
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: million subscribers, that's a money making conversation right there. Yeah,

849
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: like a passion slash question slash you know need, Like

850
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: my brother and I are sitting around the kitchen table

851
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: going what does the internet need that doesn't have right now?

852
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,479
Speaker 1: And this is twenty eleven, after I made the music

853
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: video and try to muse the Galt YouTube for a

854
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: whild and it wasn't that it didn't feel a sustainable

855
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: fun as I wanted to be, and so my mind

856
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: started hopping into the next thing, just like, what can

857
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: I do now that's that's interesting and fun to me?

858
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: And the cooking show just had to be on the list,

859
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: and so we launted piece of fiction then and it's

860
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: just sort of been like a steady progression of a

861
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: passion project flash love between myself and my co host

862
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: actually for the past eight years. And about two years

863
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: ago we were like, you know, it's time, let's make

864
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: a cookbook. I think we have the skills necessary. We

865
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: don't want to do it too early, you know, we

866
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: were still rookies, and so we're like, I think we're

867
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Speaker 1: mature enough. I think we understand this market and what

868
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: we want to do here and how we want the

869
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: book to look specifically as creators um and so we

870
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: launched into it and made a book. And you know

871
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: that again, like you said, it's not just staying down

872
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: and writing something that took two years of editing, photos,

873
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: working with a publisher and they're finally released in two

874
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: years after we started it. Now, let me ask you this,

875
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,959
Speaker 1: but the YouTube channel at one point three million subscribers,

876
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: we're along the way. You went, wow, this is a

877
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: business this you know? You know, because like I said,

878
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 1: you're just sitting in the kitchen with your brother trying

879
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: to think of an idea of what's the next step,

880
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 1: what's missing? You come up with this brilliant idea. And

881
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: I don't laugh when I say that this is a

882
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: brilliant idea of my friend. Obviously one point three million

883
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 1: people think so too. And well, your talents at all

884
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: time to cooking or baking, because I know you you

885
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: give your gamer and you give all credits over there

886
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: to Ashley. How did that relationship come about and how

887
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 1: did you start saying that this is truly a direction

888
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: that's gonna catch on. No, it was we were at Disneyland.

889
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 1: Of course that happens uh for a mutual friend's birthday,

890
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: and we didn't know each other, and at that time

891
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 1: I was still formulating the idea of my head. I

892
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: met actually asked what she did. She showed me a

893
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: couple of pictures of these like little fun takes that

894
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: she made for her friends using fonding and you know

895
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: the sort of stuff you see on cake Boss of like, wait,

896
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: this is perfect. You want to come and help me

897
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: out make a recipe? And before I knew it, I

898
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 1: just sort of de factive man or my co host.

899
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Speaker 1: But I think that the moment that we realized that

900
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Speaker 1: I realized at least that this was a business um

901
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: was the moment that a brand approachest and went, hey,

902
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: do you want to do something together and we can

903
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: pay for it, but if you guys are cool with it,

904
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: then we're cool with it too. And it took a while, right,

905
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: It was like a few years before brand started picking up.

906
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: And when I first made the show, I was like,

907
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: you know what, what movie wouldn't want this? This is

908
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: great promotion, it's organic. The entire show is based off

909
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: of the franchises, So don't a question if you support

910
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: or sponsor a franchise. But it didn't happen at first

911
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: because I think the show is still picking up steam.

912
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: And then maybe it was there of a newer industry

913
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Speaker 1: for that sort of stuff. But after a while, you know,

914
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Speaker 1: after doing a couple of brand deals, I looked at

915
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Speaker 1: the whole operation and when you know, this is something

916
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Speaker 1: that we could scale up. This is something that we

917
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: could just make more than just a hobby for fun

918
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 1: um because I actually wanted to be a TV host

919
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: when she came here originally, and so this was definitely

920
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: in line with her dreams. Fun for us to do

921
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: without having to worry so much about turning a profit

922
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 1: or whatever for the first couple of years, because it's

923
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: just again a passion project. Now let's talk about the book. Okay,

924
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Speaker 1: because of the fact that UM is you have five recipes,

925
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: and I like, I liked. First of all, I love

926
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Speaker 1: the book. Okay, this is five recipes because I want

927
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Speaker 1: to cook immediately after reading the book. Um. The shrimp cocktail,

928
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: which is for some reason, if you if you go

929
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Speaker 1: and you know something going the restaurant and the order

930
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: shrimp cocktail, it's something about it's such a simple dish

931
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Speaker 1: that it's so tasted me that I love it. That's

932
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: from Beetle Juice. That's on page fifty three, the movie

933
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Speaker 1: Beetle Juice. That's when the shrimp started dancing around. And

934
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Speaker 1: then you, uh trade to my heart the crabby sliders

935
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Speaker 1: from SpongeBob Crap SquarePants. Oh my god, I I gotta

936
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Speaker 1: make that the Tianna Tianna's come Gumbo from Princess in

937
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Speaker 1: the Front. And then oh, hey, look at it. I

938
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Speaker 1: read the recipe. I'm from Houston, Texas by way of Louisiana,

939
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: so I would not be telling you. I would not

940
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 1: be telling you I'm gonna make gumble if I didn't

941
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: look at the recipe and go, uh, this is crap,

942
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: some crap. No, No, I looked at the recipe. Jimmy, y'all.

943
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: You guys are the real deal, A real deal, okay.

944
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: And then uh, the thing, I'm I love oatmeal cookies

945
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Speaker 1: to death, my friend. That's my favorite cookies. Oatmeal. So

946
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: when I saw the giant oatmeal cream pie from Honey,

947
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: I shrunk the kids. You have me, brother, you have it.

948
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: But then you closed out, You closed out with this

949
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Speaker 1: one from my one of my all time favorite shows

950
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Speaker 1: with the worst inding in the history of TV. Game

951
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Speaker 1: of Thrones, the Lemon Cakes, the Lemon Cakes, so Almra,

952
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Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. And what I'm gonna do is you know

953
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 1: what I got. I got. I got seven hundred and

954
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: eighty four thousand Facebook followers. Eight of my followers are female,

955
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: and I always post food. IM gonna post your book

956
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: if you don't mind, tell everybody to buy it. I'm

957
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: gonna make a couple of these recipes and and and

958
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: post them on my social media because Jimmy, I'm a fan.

959
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: If Ashley ever has time to come on the show,

960
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: please invite her on the show. I just want to

961
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 1: bring you on the show and just you know, let's

962
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: slow it down, talk about your story, talk about and

963
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: I haven't touched the entire story, but I just want

964
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: to touch enough of it to let people know how

965
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 1: special you are as a as an individual man, because

966
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 1: you know you you're you're you're breaking ground, my friend,

967
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: and and you're doing it with a high level of respect.

968
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: You're doing it. And the money making conversation and you're

969
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: a leader. And that's why I wanted to bring you

970
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: on money Making Conversation. Congratulation on Milan. Congratulations on the

971
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: YouTube channel Feasta Fiction Kitchen. The book almost I'm gonna

972
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: push it as hard as I can, because not that

973
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: you need my help, but I'm just gonna be a little,

974
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 1: a little, a little bit of help for the bigger pictures.

975
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: That cool. Jimmy, Well, you know, you know how it goes.

976
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 1: We will always take the help that we are giving,

977
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: So I appreciate it, man. And you know actually is

978
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: from Austin as well, so she's right around the corner. Oh, absolutely,

979
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: your Texas girl. Well, I gotta get on the show,

980
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: my friend. I want to thank you. I want I'm

981
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: glad I the first time we met, first time we talked.

982
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: I want you to consider to be a friend of

983
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: the Money Making Conversation. You have some other projects coming

984
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: down later on this year, and if you want to

985
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: come back on the show, please come on because I

986
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: will not get enough of talking about you, and I

987
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: can also dig into some of that gaming area of

988
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: your career that we didn't talk about on this But

989
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: we want to talk about the book. I want to

990
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: talk about that book, want to talk about the movie.

991
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: I want to talk about your impact and standing up

992
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: for who you are as a person and who you

993
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: represent as a people. Keep winning, Jimmy Wong, thank you

994
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: for coming on my show. All right, we're at home

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Speaker 1: with Claire, who was warming up for a bit of

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Speaker 1: boxer size. Yep, she's welcomed in the new year with

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Speaker 1: a fancy new workout setup. Look at that Brandon punchback

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Speaker 1: the Perez family home, just waiting for the and there

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Speaker 1: they go, almost on time. This morning. Mom is coming

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00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 1: out the front door strong with a double arm kid carry.

1007
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: Looks like dad has the bags. Daughter is bringing up

1008
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: the rear. Oh, but the diaper bag wasn't closed. Diapers

1009
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: and toys are everywhere. But mom has just nailed the

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Speaker 1: perfect car seat buckle for the toddler. And now the

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Speaker 1: has secured herself in the booster seat. Dad zips the

1013
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Speaker 1: bag clothes and they're off. Ah, but looks like Mom

1014
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Speaker 1: doesn't realize her coffee cup is still on the roof

1015
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Speaker 1: of the car, and there it goes. Oh, that's a

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Speaker 1: shame that mug was a fan favorite. Don't sweat the

1017
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Speaker 1: lasts more than a moment. We can change that. Learn

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Speaker 1: how it belonging begins with us dot org brought to

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Speaker 1: you by the AD Council. Welcome Out. My next guest

1030
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: is a Peabody and Golden Globe Award winning writer, director,

1031
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: and producer He's on the show today to discuss this

1032
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: new Netflix original film on Court, where he is the

1033
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: writer and director. Will also be talking about hbos Insecure,

1034
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: where he is the showrunner and executive producer. By the way,

1035
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: Insecure was renewed for a fifth season. The fourth season finale,

1036
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: Uh Insecure will air in the middle of June. Please,

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Speaker 1: welcome to Money Making Conversations, my man, apprentice Penny Pretty good,

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Speaker 1: pretty good. So I'll tell you something, Mr penn I'm saying,

1039
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Speaker 1: Mr Pennic because I saw your movie twice and one day.

1040
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: So it's not often in my life because I can

1041
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: say I saw the same movie from beginning to the end,

1042
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 1: and we're talking about Uncorked its own Netflix twice in

1043
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: one day. So, um, that's a compliment, man, because of

1044
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: the fact that you know, first of all, he has

1045
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: some people in that I really loved the death nis

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Speaker 1: Nisi Nash and Court in advance, uh and so talk

1047
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Speaker 1: about but before I get into the store, just complimenting

1048
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Speaker 1: all about the movie, tell us about Uncorked the premise

1049
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: and how how you developed it. Yeah, I mean it

1050
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: really started from a place, you know, I wanted to

1051
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: make sure I wanted to write uh, and direct a movie.

1052
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Speaker 1: And I wanted to to you know, other things, like

1053
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to fund that's kind of personal, but I

1054
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Speaker 1: could sort of, um, you know, find my voice that writing.

1055
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Speaker 1: When you writing television, you know, you're often writing in

1056
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Speaker 1: other people's voices, and so I wanted to find mine.

1057
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Speaker 1: And I felt like I was a big I love

1058
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Speaker 1: father's son dynamic stories, and I often felt like with

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Speaker 1: black fathers and some stories usually the spine of why

1060
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Speaker 1: the father that I have conflicts because the father was

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Speaker 1: absence and I just wasn't my experience, and like a

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Speaker 1: lot of friends of my run experiences, and so I

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Speaker 1: wanted to see and I felt like white people get

1064
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: to sort of have experienced my father some movies, whether

1065
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: they get to kind of be basic, like if you

1066
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: think about good Will Hunting or Manchester about the Sea,

1067
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: you know that that they get to be kind of regular.

1068
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 1: And I thought, and being basic and regular is what

1069
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: you find your humanity. And so I wanted to see

1070
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: if my men to be regular, not be you know,

1071
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: not about our pain or our trauma, is just to

1072
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 1: sort of like this is what life is like kind

1073
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: of an everyday basis for this family. And so that's

1074
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: sort of what drew me into, like, wa, did you

1075
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: tell that kind of a story? Right? Now? Here's the thing.

1076
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 1: Now I'm watching the movie enjoy it, laughing. It's kind

1077
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: of like almost like a drama Day to Meet its

1078
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: comedy with a nice little blended comedy stretched out through

1079
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: a dramatic movie with a lot of emotional values. It's

1080
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: romantic story as a family story is a common of

1081
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: age story. So it had a lot of a lot

1082
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: of descriptive moments in the movie that I enjoyed. And

1083
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: but the detail, that's what really uh took me back.

1084
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: The detail of what was of what he was trying

1085
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,439
Speaker 1: to accomplish, the lead actor was trying to accomplish. Talk

1086
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: about that, is that something personal or where did the

1087
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: detail come from? Yeah? I mean in my real life,

1088
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: the sort of jumping off point in front of the

1089
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: family was really like my my grandfather started her furniture

1090
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: story compon in the fifties when my grandfather had a

1091
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: stroke and couldn't run at the full time my father

1092
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: would happen to be a college time. My father thought

1093
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: out of college, no questions to ask, and took over

1094
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: the business. And I was the next son in line

1095
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: to do that, and I didn't really want to do that.

1096
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,760
Speaker 1: I wanted to be a writer and do other things.

1097
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 1: And so again I wanted to talk about again like

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00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 1: that that anging. So I knew when I wanted when

1099
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: I was writing the story that I wanted one part

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00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 1: of the family's business to be a family business, to

1101
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: be sort of more blue collar. Um. And so that's

1102
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: sort of how I got to barbecue. And I knew

1103
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: I wanted the son to do something that was a

1104
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: little bit more elevated and creative and the way that

1105
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: I was doing something, and I just felt writing would

1106
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: be kind of visually not really that interesting. Um. And

1107
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: I took a trip to Paris for a cousin's wedding

1108
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: destoration wedding, and I didn't even drink wine at the time,

1109
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: but I was like, if I'm ever gonna like wine,

1110
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: it kind of has to happen here. You know. It's

1111
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: like if you go to New Orleans and don't like

1112
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: gum vot New Orleans, you just maybe just don't like

1113
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: gum vote. So I was like, Paris is the spot

1114
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: for wine, and so if I don't like it here,

1115
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: And so I took a class and the guy made

1116
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: it really easy to understand wine and what I was drinking,

1117
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: and um, I said, oh, like this should maybe be

1118
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: what the sun should want to do. This is kind

1119
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: of cool. And that's really how I stumbled into that arena.

1120
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: And I was watching documentaries and movies about songs and

1121
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: things like that, and they just became And then obviously

1122
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: as you think about your like food and wine or

1123
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: distal pairings, and the way that the father of senses

1124
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: of the wood is the same way that people use

1125
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: us about the grapes, and that became obviously very um

1126
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: you know, things that became connectors in the movie um once.

1127
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: But that's sort of how I found the world of wine. Well,

1128
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: you know, I'm talking to the writer, director, and producer

1129
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: of Uh. I want to say, hot, new movie that's

1130
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: on Netflix. I know we are all in these pandemic time.

1131
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: I would say hot, because I watched it twice. I

1132
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: would see you just get you know, I really loved

1133
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: the movie because my wife, she's a connoisseur of wine.

1134
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: It's okay. So when I when I watched the movie

1135
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: at my office, I went, man, that the detail you

1136
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: know that because he wanted to be a wine Somalia, right,

1137
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: and uh, and so that was his goal. His dad was,

1138
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: like you said, Uh, his father was a barbecue owner.

1139
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: He dropped out of school to be to take over

1140
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: the business, even though he wanted to be a teacher,

1141
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden that he didn't want

1142
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: to do it, just like you had in real life.

1143
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: You didn't want to do the furniture store. He wanted

1144
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: to be. He wanted to be a connoisseur of wine.

1145
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: He wanted to be and like I said, as a

1146
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: as a very exclusive club to be able to accomplish

1147
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: that task. And so, so if I watched that, so

1148
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: I went. So I came home and said, I said, baby, uh,

1149
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: I want you to watch this movie because the detail

1150
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: in this movie about this one because I don't drink

1151
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: wine and so and so she was so so so

1152
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: you know, but I'm just amazed at the detail of

1153
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: what I'm going on. And we're not even talking about

1154
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: the how you were setting up the barbecue and chopping

1155
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: it up. That that whole world, because that's my world

1156
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: right there. When you're talking about Memphis, you I'm from Houston, Texas.

1157
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: I'm a Texas boy, grew up my nephew. He's one

1158
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: of the best bobbecue people. Yeah, he one of the

1159
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: best barbecue people in Houston, Texas. He got a little

1160
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: side standing recognized her. He was on Kelly Clarkson for barbecue,

1161
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: and so I know about bobecue. And so when I'm

1162
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: watching the detail of the barbecue and then I'm watching

1163
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: the detail on the wine, I'm going like, who is

1164
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: this guy? You know, I said, wow, the details. So

1165
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: let's talk about your attention to detail, Mr Penny. I'm trying.

1166
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: I gotta respect Mr O Penny. You missed opinion on

1167
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: this show. Okay, I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I'm

1168
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: gonna call you Mr mcdonalaruck. Okay, Uh yeah, I mean yeah,

1169
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: you know, I mean we didn't like, well you keep

1170
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: it like that and uh but no, I mean, you know, obviously,

1171
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: you know, I worked you know, on my other show

1172
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: from Intercure, like I've worked with a lot of them

1173
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: amazing directors. When you learn a lot from you know,

1174
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: you said, like you you know, you learned like from

1175
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: people just by how they work. And so that was

1176
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 1: one thing that I felt like the movie had to

1177
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: be a super spot on about it. It It was like, like,

1178
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: you know, Memphis is one of the I equated like

1179
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: the Mount Russian cities barbecue, right, so you got there,

1180
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: or surely you have Texas barbecue, you have you know,

1181
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: the Carolina barbecue, you have Diffen barbecue, and you have

1182
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 1: kind of you know St. Louis, Kansas City barbue, kind

1183
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: of like talking for barbecue. You know what I'm saying,

1184
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 1: talk the barbecue had to do. Yeah, I mean it's real, right,

1185
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: and so uh so I knew because obviously in the

1186
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: movie that the barbecue has to be so serious because

1187
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: that's the dad is placed as a premium and like

1188
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: how important the family businesses. So it's not just like

1189
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: you're doing barbecue in l A. It's like you're doing

1190
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: barbecue a place where like that's it's everything for us,

1191
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 1: and it's it takes care of our family. It's more

1192
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: than just the barbecue, right And so um so to

1193
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: me that that just had to be official, and so

1194
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: we enlisted a lot of Memis barbecue places that are

1195
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: especially black family places, like we're called Cozy corner Um,

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01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: you know, barbecue shop. The places that we hired a

1197
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: lot of the background actors that actually have lots all

1198
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: worked in barbecue spots, and so because I needed them

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01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: to know what they were doing versus like having kind

1200
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: of extras coming in not really knowing what they were doing,

1201
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: they had looked like they knew with it. That was

1202
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: important that all the background people know what they were doing,

1203
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: and so that was grand. Then conversely, in the wine world,

1204
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: like we had one of our actors who playing one

1205
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: of the black song teachers is amazing black son A

1206
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 1: d Lynn, who was also a part of the inspiration

1207
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: for the movie too, and and so obviously to have

1208
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: him read the scripted and really be teaching me as

1209
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 1: I was writing the script about wine and things like that.

1210
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 1: And obviously on the set we had another wine personal.

1211
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: They run right in foes like our on set person

1212
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: like our day to day to make sure everything works

1213
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 1: and make sure everything looks percent official in terms of

1214
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: how they hold their glass, how they you know, smell,

1215
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: how they taste, and how they how they do everything

1216
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: you know with so again that level of detail, because

1217
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: if you don't believe it, then you're just not not

1218
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 1: going to be into the movie. And the fun part

1219
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: about it is that you used up and this is

1220
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: a good word comedic word. You used ignorance to be funny.

1221
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 1: Like for instance, when he was saying he wanted to

1222
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: be on Somalia and they go, you will you want

1223
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: to go to Smalia? You know, it's just like and

1224
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: he goes, I ain't said nothing about Africa. You know.

1225
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 1: It was like he's like, you know you're your humor,

1226
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: your writing style, man is dead on. But again you

1227
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: gotta have the talent to be to pull that off.

1228
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: And you're casting and was dead on man dead on.

1229
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: I I w know I won't tell the movie, but

1230
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 1: the Nissy Nash relationship, uh, just coming out there just

1231
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 1: just niece is just brilliant and uh and then coording

1232
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: advance his role as uh as a dad man that

1233
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 1: uh he if any black man is over for you,

1234
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: that's your dad. That that courting advantage your day. He

1235
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: was your day. And so I was looking at my dad.

1236
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 1: You know the statement he has come out by racism

1237
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: but anything, it was just irreverenced. But it was just

1238
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: about the whole process. And then the sun and I

1239
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 1: want you to say his name because I messed up

1240
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 1: the lead guy who who really carried this road throughout

1241
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: and it really so that sold me on the fact

1242
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: that it could actually happen for this young man. But

1243
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 1: it's a journey. So I just we're talking about the

1244
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: movie on Cork, and I just wanted to compliment you

1245
01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: on the ability to put a dynamic family story, wrap

1246
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 1: it around a romantic story and then with a seed

1247
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 1: of trying to find himself and seek an opportunity along

1248
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 1: the way that he doubted himself, that he kind of

1249
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 1: believed in himself, then he doubted himself. In the end

1250
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 1: he made a decision that this is what I want

1251
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 1: to do. That's that's fantastic man. Congratulations, thank you. Yeah.

1252
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 1: I mean Victoria Thomas, who has you know, everything from

1253
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: you know, our show to to Queeness Limb to all

1254
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 1: the Tarantinos movies. And Victoria such an amazing costing um

1255
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: like director that she was the one that like, you know,

1256
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 1: like suggested, like she's the one who suggests the cordin.

1257
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: She's the one that the girlfriend Sasha, She's the one

1258
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: that of a cousin JT. She's the one that was like, oh,

1259
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 1: mommay is gonna be great, Like she just helped put together, um,

1260
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 1: such an amazing talent for me. And uh and obviously

1261
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 1: they all just delivered. I mean, they're they're just also great.

1262
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: And see I got a peak that this movie was

1263
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: coming down the line because I had a a young

1264
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 1: mentor young man I meant to when he was an

1265
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,959
Speaker 1: actor way back in the day when he was trying

1266
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: to act with his sister sister. His name Wastari Turner,

1267
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: and uh, yeah, he came on My show man. He

1268
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 1: told me about the movie, said, Rashaan, when it comes out,

1269
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna mess you up. It's really a good movie.

1270
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: And and he says, this is the type of movie

1271
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 1: he wants to be involved, to tell a good story.

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Speaker 1: Great casting, and you guys did a wonderful job and

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Speaker 1: and more blessings. All right, I put you know, put

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Speaker 1: I put this on my social media, put it in

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Speaker 1: my newsletter, you know, just just to carry the brand

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Speaker 1: of excellence. And again I'm recommending everybody, uh to see

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Speaker 1: this movie or probably gonna see it again because I'm

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Speaker 1: a type of person. I'll sit down there, you I

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Speaker 1: watch it again. Come on, I watch again. That's how

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Speaker 1: good it is. I watched the game. Let's let's go

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Speaker 1: to the to you other series. It's just you know,

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Speaker 1: just got renewed. Let you know some checks are coming.

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Speaker 1: It's always good to note checks are coming. That's a

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Speaker 1: beautiful thing. That's a kid that come on, come on,

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Speaker 1: brother in the world. You know entertainment, man, you can't

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Speaker 1: buy a house wondering that I just rent. I just

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Speaker 1: at lease because they say the episode, but I wait

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Speaker 1: and buying the cash. After the episodes and finished that.

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Speaker 1: The girls, man, they mad at each other. They I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna talk to the show, but I'm not gonna give

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Speaker 1: away the show. But this has been a dynamic season man,

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Speaker 1: for for the relationship of the Ivan and East. So

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Speaker 1: talk about the steps of Oh, you know, because I

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Speaker 1: got a feeling I know where it's going because I'm

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Speaker 1: an old school writer, you know what I'm saying. But

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Speaker 1: when I saw her coming coming down at that line

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Speaker 1: of the promos when she's on vacation, so I go,

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Speaker 1: I think, I know where this is going, and uh

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Speaker 1: but yeah, okay, but you know. But but you know,

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Speaker 1: it's about relationship I can think about. I think you're

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Speaker 1: very gifted at that, you know, and being able to

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Speaker 1: write characters that are very human and normal and make decisions.

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Speaker 1: But this is what I'm complimenting you on. Um Insecure

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Speaker 1: is a very millennial type urban show, and then on

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Speaker 1: corks a family drama. Language is not even close to

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Speaker 1: the language and Insecure and you are naturally pulling that off.

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Speaker 1: That's a gift, my friend. You know, I was a

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Speaker 1: sitcom writer. I was talented, but believe me, my skills

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Speaker 1: didn't even come close to yours. I could write a script,

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Speaker 1: But you got a gift, man. And I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: sit on this show and act like me being a

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Speaker 1: sitcom right and you being a sitcom right that we

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Speaker 1: were the saying you are, your skills said is a blessing.

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Speaker 1: And I got and I get to see it every

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Speaker 1: Sunday night on HBO, and I got to get to

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Speaker 1: see it probably gonna be a third time on on

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Speaker 1: Corked on Netflix. Talk about the whole process of being

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Speaker 1: a show, your staff because we all know you don't

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Speaker 1: do it by yourself, and that amazing cast that you

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Speaker 1: have with Insecure. Yeah, I mean it really is a team.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it really is a team effort. I mean

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Speaker 1: we've been east and that I've been super blessed too.

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Speaker 1: You know, we like mostly had the same writers from

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Speaker 1: the from the first season, and so I think that

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Speaker 1: brings like a level of you know, people being super

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Speaker 1: familiar with how we want to tell the stories and

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Speaker 1: and the way to tell stories and what works and

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Speaker 1: what doesn't work on our show, but still offering you know,

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Speaker 1: fresh new insight and fresh takes on it. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: so I think that And obviously we have an amazing

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Speaker 1: cast between you know, Jay Evan and Easa of course,

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Speaker 1: and you know Amanda Seals, you know Natasha rock Well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so many amazing again, so much amazing talent

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Speaker 1: that it just makes our job easier. And I always say,

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Speaker 1: like when you first create a show, you know, the

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Speaker 1: first the hardest part of the beginning is like you

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Speaker 1: sort of write the character as a suit and then

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Speaker 1: but it's kind of off the rack. And the longer

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Speaker 1: the care longer the actors sits in the character, you

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Speaker 1: start tailoring the suit for the actors are not a seat.

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Speaker 1: It's better because the actors getting more comfortable with the character,

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Speaker 1: you know, the writers getting more comfortable with the character,

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Speaker 1: and then you get to get get deeper into the character,

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Speaker 1: um and and and continue like like to Nuance. And

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Speaker 1: so it's been honestly, it's been a blessing to be able.

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Speaker 1: And you're absolutely right that that first season of character

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01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 1: development is rough because you don't really know the relationships.

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Speaker 1: But when you enter this fourth but to go into

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Speaker 1: the fifth, you know, now you have the actors coming

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Speaker 1: up and say something like that, I wouldn't say that.

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Speaker 1: That's not my care. That's that's real. It is real.

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Speaker 1: It is real. You know I'm telling the truth that

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01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 1: because Yeah, they bought into what you've created, and then

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01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they want to keep it on

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Speaker 1: course because of the fact that that's why the characters

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Speaker 1: are natural, and that's why I buy into the anger

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Speaker 1: that's happening between the two characters, and and and it's

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Speaker 1: gonna build up to I'm pretty sure a tremendous season

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Speaker 1: for now because of the fact that it's relatable. This

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Speaker 1: is why I love it. Because it's on HBO. There's

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Speaker 1: not gonna beat. It's nothing slam on BT is not

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Speaker 1: on it's on HBO. We know that's a dominant white

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Speaker 1: network that's being renewed. That means that the content that

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Speaker 1: you're lift delivering is relatable to everybody. It's good quality content,

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01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 1: and that's all you want as a as a talent.

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01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: You want to you want, you want your your information

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Speaker 1: to be welcomed by everybody, not to be pigeonholed, you know.

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Speaker 1: And that's brilliant that I've been blessed the season to

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Speaker 1: see chairs today if able to do a name. I've

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Speaker 1: been blessed to see the Cure movie uncorked. Uh. Every

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Speaker 1: Sunday night, I'm enjoying HBO's Insecure, my friend. Uh. I

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Speaker 1: just wanted to bring on the show and say, hey, brother,

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Speaker 1: you're younger than me, I I, which is great. That

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Speaker 1: means that, uh, you know, the spike leads in the

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01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 1: world are getting up there. And I feel that our

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Speaker 1: future and the directing and the writing and the producing

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Speaker 1: business and the film and tele vision, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: all right. Thank you, I appreciate. I'm glad to be here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Look to your children's eyes to

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Speaker 1: Forest Service, your state Forrester and the AD Council. My

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Speaker 1: next guest is to own a Puncho's Late Night Fry

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Speaker 1: Trap as f r Y Fry Trap is a pop

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Speaker 1: up kitchen based in the Atlanta metro area. Pacho features

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Speaker 1: a menu based on loaded French fries. Right there, He

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Speaker 1: got me right there, y'all, French fries. I am a

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Speaker 1: French fry food with his own Atlanta Fair Flare Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Parto features the menu based on loaded French fries within

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Flair. Please work on the money making conversation to

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Speaker 1: owner Paco's Late Night Fried Trap, Brandon Puncho Williams, Oh many,

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Speaker 1: thank you kind Uh definitely definitely enthoos to be here

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Speaker 1: and I have a money make a conversation with I'm

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Speaker 1: golt Man. First of all, I want to when you say,

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Speaker 1: what is French fries, loaded French fries within Atlanta Flair?

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Speaker 1: What what does that got? I got that from your bio.

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Speaker 1: So if if anyone is familiar, poutine is a normal

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Speaker 1: thing in Canada and in some parts of America, but

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Speaker 1: also loaded fries are very popular around the country, especially

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Speaker 1: in l a, so we know that it already exists,

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Speaker 1: but we bring it to the We bring it to

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Speaker 1: the South when we put all little flair on it. So,

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Speaker 1: for example, instead of instead of the flavors of l

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Speaker 1: A you might find with avocado, old cornea, sada, and

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Speaker 1: uh and a lot, we bring the fried chicken bides

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Speaker 1: with buffalo, with the buffalo sauce, ranch drizzle, and then

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Speaker 1: the tub of sprinkles um as well as a few

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Speaker 1: other flavors that were noted for in the South, and

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Speaker 1: some not so much. But that will really catch you

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Speaker 1: or your attention, like the sea boop shout, which is

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Speaker 1: like you were, don't hear to that, don't don't go,

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Speaker 1: don't jump too far. We're gonna get to that. I

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Speaker 1: got the whole menu in front of me, all right,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that menu. Man. What you're not

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Speaker 1: gonna do is come on money making conversations and and

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Speaker 1: and leave me home with because I gotta have that.

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Speaker 1: I gotta have at least at least dream of the

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Speaker 1: food that you have at your shop. Okay, is that cool?

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Speaker 1: Because I've heard this a lot. What is a pop

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Speaker 1: up kitchen? What is that? When you used to turn

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Speaker 1: pop up kitchen. What does that mean? So at the moment, well,

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01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 1: from the beginning, we knew that we needed to approach

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Speaker 1: it the food entreneurship and the restaurant idea very slowly.

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Speaker 1: So the pop u kitchen, we this kindcept around the

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Speaker 1: city and just essentially present everywhere we go and spread

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Speaker 1: it as many places that we can. So in that

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Speaker 1: mobile farm, we we we got the word out and

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Speaker 1: was able to really test the concept. So so so

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Speaker 1: basically you're tied to a food truck right now, we

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Speaker 1: don't actually have a food truck. Okay, we go out

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Speaker 1: and bit up tense bring out our equipment and we

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Speaker 1: bring out so you really do set up a little

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Speaker 1: a little kitchen type layout where you you on that spot.

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Speaker 1: There's no food truck. You set up a little kitchen

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Speaker 1: where you serve food on the spot and people can

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Speaker 1: can request uh door Dash and grub Hub and Uber eat. Well,

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Speaker 1: we we do that is the true true ess and

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Speaker 1: stuff and we do go out of cephilf kitchen, but

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Speaker 1: we are on door Dash and Ubis and grew up

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Speaker 1: up yet. But we do offer delivery on our through

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Speaker 1: our own operations, which is a very small um. We

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Speaker 1: just have some some prod family that really believe in

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Speaker 1: US and they do some delivery sports when we get

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Speaker 1: them cool. So let me let me let because I

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Speaker 1: have a nephew. You know, he has a very popular

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Speaker 1: barbecue play staying. You know he does you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Hurricane Harvard came through town in Houston, destrought his

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Speaker 1: business and I helped him rebuild it out. And now

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Speaker 1: he has does business with the Houston Texas and a

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Speaker 1: couple of the arenas. And now the pandemic has slowed

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Speaker 1: his catering and of course with the Texas and that

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Speaker 1: may not be summer football with the NFL. We don't

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Speaker 1: know preseason football. But he is surviving with the with

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Speaker 1: the door Dashes of the world and the uber Eats

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Speaker 1: and the grub hubs order to go. How how is

1480
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 1: your business being affected by the pandemic? So of course

1481
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 1: we're the shutting down of everything. We can't do pop

1482
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 1: us and we can't do large events, and it puts

1483
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 1: us back into the state, and really not back into

1484
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 1: because we stayed in, but into the state where we

1485
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 1: kind of have to to pop up from home and

1486
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:04,679
Speaker 1: do do things in the way that what we're done

1487
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 1: and in times with things were much harder, but much harder,

1488
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 1: but hard as well. So we actually we we we

1489
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 1: went right back to the track. That's the nature of

1490
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 1: the business and show, and I just have to be

1491
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: frank about that. And so far, so good. We're very

1492
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 1: grateful to still be busy. Uh, We're We're grateful to

1493
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 1: feed people and be able to help people as well.

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01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 1: So I can't do anything but speak to how grateful

1495
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 1: we are about still being in there just and you know,

1496
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 1: still being at We know. That's what I brought you

1497
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 1: on the show, Brandon. The truth is what I want

1498
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 1: people to hear because a lot of people in your position,

1499
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 1: a lot of people were caught off guard by the pandemic.

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01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:46,600
Speaker 1: I was called off card, you know, I was, I

1501
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:48,759
Speaker 1: had plans I was doing in April. I had plans

1502
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 1: I was gonna do it May. I expect to be

1503
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 1: making money in April and May, and the live events

1504
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 1: got canceled and all advertising and marketing basically ceased in

1505
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 1: the second quarter of this year, so it really threw

1506
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 1: for a spend. With that being said, what lessons have

1507
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 1: you learned from this experience as a businessman who's growing

1508
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:12,560
Speaker 1: his business, growing his brand, man, who week, that's a

1509
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 1: I have a load of ask for that because it's

1510
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 1: so it's so deep for me. Um take take, So

1511
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 1: I'll just take it straight to the route I knew.

1512
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a serious entrepreneur in the sense of I

1513
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 1: feel that many businesses, so I leew that coming at

1514
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 1: to this point, I need to have everything squared away

1515
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 1: from the concept to the reasoning behind it and the

1516
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 1: reason behind it not only just being surviving for the day,

1517
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 1: but having a business that maybe surviving any any time,

1518
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 1: and that would just be something that we could grow

1519
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 1: in the sense of us a legacy in Atlanta, but

1520
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 1: also for a legacy for our sales. But the line

1521
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 1: and in that is just something that lasts and that

1522
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 1: will be viable in any situation. So where the pandemic

1523
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 1: proved and show he was hey man, you you you

1524
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 1: need that on the mark because right now you could

1525
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 1: be in a whole lot of situations. But it's several things,

1526
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 1: and one of them is he's not worried. You're not

1527
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 1: painted and you see lighte and you you again back

1528
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 1: to back to the gratitude is like I recognize every

1529
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 1: piece of it. So again that that affirms me in

1530
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 1: many ways that all right, you picked the right thing

1531
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 1: and and the hit the mark in that regard of

1532
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 1: my home with some others. Uh. And that's something I

1533
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 1: think that's important in business and when people approach businesses.

1534
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,719
Speaker 1: You might have a great idea, but will it last?

1535
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 1: Is it something that's not necessarily essential but sustainable and

1536
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 1: something that you can mane and it's just if you

1537
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 1: need to. Also, is it's something that you enjoy doing

1538
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 1: and that's fun that you're gonna get bored of or

1539
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 1: you know, I want to rip your hair out, So

1540
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 1: let's talk. There was the things that important to me,

1541
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 1: and it's what punch os is for you. Again, I'm

1542
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 1: not it's really hot that you saying these things, because

1543
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 1: you know, we all want to be successful. Like you said, Brandon,

1544
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 1: you're a serial entrepreneur, which means that you've been out

1545
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 1: there looking for the right thing that can you know,

1546
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 1: make your brand work, make money for you, make you

1547
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 1: make you happy, because I always tell people all money

1548
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 1: don't make you happy. If you're making money unhappy. It's

1549
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 1: not long term money. Whether you're employed or have a

1550
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 1: successful business, you have to be happy in the long run. Plus,

1551
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:28,799
Speaker 1: you don't want to go down the line ten fifteen

1552
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 1: years doing something that was that was that you weren't

1553
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 1: happy about and realize you're given away your best year

1554
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 1: is to make you happy. So I'm assuming that punt

1555
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 1: your You're a happy guy right now. I am extremely

1556
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 1: so many reasons, So yeah, I am good. So now

1557
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 1: how did you get this idea? Now let's start listen

1558
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 1: to this is what the people want to know. How

1559
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 1: did you get this idea for late night fry trap Punchos?

1560
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 1: All right, so let me start with Plusho. Puncho is

1561
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 1: my nickname. A's my real nickname, and it's birth giving

1562
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 1: and it's a uh I say, a street nickname in

1563
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 1: Atlanta that's kind of popular. So there are a lot

1564
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 1: of everybody got a cut as the nuns and I'm

1565
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 1: the Pluto of my um. So that was that was

1566
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 1: automatic because the brand is based around at Nanta and

1567
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 1: then that's that's where we started. So late night was

1568
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 1: kind of fulfilling a missing need where we have late

1569
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 1: night food and late night each but not necessarily fun

1570
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,679
Speaker 1: late night experiences, and that's what I wanted the brand

1571
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 1: to kind of be based arized, so that when we

1572
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 1: did the mobile version, we can take experiences along with

1573
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 1: the food or appair path of food up with various

1574
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:44,520
Speaker 1: experiences so that we know that we carry our audiences

1575
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 1: attention and create a culture around the brand. So late

1576
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 1: night we wanted to have it to the late night

1577
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 1: audience everyone and everyone knows Atlanta is a a Turk

1578
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 1: bulk city. So that's kind of the audience that we

1579
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 1: shoot for. And we attract others as well. Frou to

1580
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 1: other once you know the fries, we love fry. We

1581
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:05,560
Speaker 1: know a lot of people love fried and when we

1582
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,799
Speaker 1: put our touch to it, we know we can attract

1583
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 1: the right people in the trap and went off to

1584
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 1: know and that is the trap. I mean, we hustle

1585
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 1: in any in every way. Uh and then this sicular fall,

1586
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 1: but so is its trapping fried. So that was a name.

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01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 1: That's the man cousin cool. Now I'm just tell you something, man,

1588
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 1: you know McDonald's my all time favorite fry. I will

1589
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:29,759
Speaker 1: let you know that Donald's say just something about that Friday,

1590
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 1: just that Friday got over there gets me. Now, five

1591
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 1: guys they love their fried. I give me a medium

1592
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 1: and they just pile all of so I get a

1593
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 1: little extra. I never get large fries because they're gonna

1594
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 1: get a bunch of fries anyway. Anybody buying a large

1595
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 1: fry at five guys ain't small. Okay, just get your menu.

1596
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 1: That's how they got got it kicked off. And then

1597
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna go through your whole menu because I printed

1598
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 1: out your whole menu because everything that was on it

1599
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to eat. And I gotta find out where

1600
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 1: you at because this week you gotta see me. I'm

1601
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 1: gonna have my facial mask on so you won't recognize

1602
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,719
Speaker 1: me because I'm coming on and get my fries. Okay,

1603
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 1: let's talk about that. Okay, cool talk, all right? How

1604
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 1: did you see you fries? Kick it off? So I'm

1605
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 1: a part time foody myself, and one day, just well

1606
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 1: not even one day, like every day that's scrolling around,

1607
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:25,679
Speaker 1: I kept seeing these frides that had shrimp and crab

1608
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 1: and some type of sauce on them, but they would

1609
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 1: Encounterfornia like too far away. So when I got sick

1610
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 1: and tired of it, I finally like convinced my girlfriend

1611
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 1: and partner co finally, every let's try to eat fried.

1612
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna trying to meet something. She was like, okay, whatever,

1613
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 1: and I didn't put something together, not necessarily put up together,

1614
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 1: because I have a decent paleque, like said, I'm not

1615
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 1: a shelf with my mother taught me well. So we

1616
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 1: got the wild shrimp, we got the wild crab. We

1617
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 1: uh we tied out there using quality potatoes particular time

1618
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 1: that makes it uh integrate with all the other ingredients

1619
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 1: so well. And it was a hit that first time.

1620
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 1: So after being a hit the first time, we got

1621
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 1: to that next weekend, it means like they're trying the

1622
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 1: people prizes again. And it started to become a thing

1623
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 1: like week by week, and we tried the following when

1624
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:25,640
Speaker 1: we could try the olden Latin, which is the bustlo with.

1625
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:28,839
Speaker 1: We started to try different players and realized like, okay,

1626
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 1: we should invite some friends over and see if they

1627
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: like this tested um, and you know, it just started

1628
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 1: to build from that. We took a step out there.

1629
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 1: We we we didn't end up doing like a group

1630
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:42,680
Speaker 1: party anything, but we did invite some family over the

1631
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 1: taste test and it got to the point where it

1632
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 1: ate as you so much and I didn't want to

1633
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 1: see it done somewhere else, and knowing that I had

1634
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 1: all the other branding and elements and connected certain diets

1635
01:24:56,880 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 1: like just do it, just go forward, um and and

1636
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 1: and that is simply with it. That's how to seek prices.

1637
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:06,760
Speaker 1: But at all. Okay, now, Brandon, before we get into

1638
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,679
Speaker 1: them in you, let's talk about your ordering, your auderent process.

1639
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 1: You have a new online ordering order is now enabled

1640
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 1: for pick up and delivery. Just place your order and

1641
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 1: we're prepared for your organizations will pay prayer as fast

1642
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 1: as you can. All orders are tied manually confirmed by us.

1643
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 1: We'll send you a text message as well. Right select

1644
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 1: cash as payment. You do not accept cash due to

1645
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen safety practices. Once your artists confirmed, send payment

1646
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 1: via cash app. Then you'll send your location where you're

1647
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 1: at right and when you arrived, d M a text

1648
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 1: and we'll bring it out to you. You can also

1649
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 1: track your delivery with the link in your email. So

1650
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 1: you really using technology to market your brand and to

1651
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 1: sell your business correct. Indeed, Yeah, to have uh the

1652
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 1: system in place that help move the business. So although

1653
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:09,719
Speaker 1: we have other ways that we're gonna evolve into different

1654
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 1: and more technical ball right now, we want to go

1655
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 1: ahead and go to all our order and especially during

1656
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 1: the quarts and when everything starts to kind of move

1657
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: a bit, a little bit more and faster. Uh, just

1658
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 1: so that we can keep us keep track of our data,

1659
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 1: keep advocate the deliveries and the pickups in the order.

1660
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 1: And you had that place for dashboards and go from now,

1661
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 1: what does social media? How does social media playing your game? Oh? Man,

1662
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:42,720
Speaker 1: social media? So that that's the band of our existence

1663
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 1: in the sense because my background is also branded and marketing.

1664
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 1: Uh from a freelance perspective, Uh did media production and

1665
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 1: I assisted a lot of brands and just shaping their business.

1666
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 1: So I was able to and strategizic West. So I

1667
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:00,600
Speaker 1: was able to do that for us too, in the

1668
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 1: sense of knowing how to said the logo. This knowing

1669
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 1: set up the logo, set up the colors, knowing how

1670
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 1: to take the pictures, understand a lot of things that

1671
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 1: go along with the media. Prior to launching Pazos, uh

1672
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:19,560
Speaker 1: is really was really a sense of to launching, so

1673
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:25,560
Speaker 1: using those tricks and knowing that the food with the

1674
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 1: quality and hopefully it will go over where I just

1675
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 1: kind of created that formula and launched it. Um. I mean,

1676
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 1: it's so many elements to other elements to it, but

1677
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 1: taking that formula. Having a formula and launch and social media.

1678
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:44,559
Speaker 1: It's just a tried and true way to market freely

1679
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 1: because once you just go borrow in the smallest sense,

1680
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:54,639
Speaker 1: it carries your business and kind of answers and poses

1681
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 1: questions that you can answer to the kind of move

1682
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 1: it forward. So I don't know, is that for for

1683
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people who may not speak that language

1684
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 1: is understandable. But whatever it is, you know you say, look,

1685
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 1: that's what you're saying. Never, I'll never break it down

1686
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:10,880
Speaker 1: because I'm a social media guru. You're talking about, Look

1687
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 1: I got not only do I have great food, but

1688
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 1: my food look good. So you take nice pictures of

1689
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:19,599
Speaker 1: your food and you post it and said, you can

1690
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 1: get this right here. You might be some people might

1691
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:25,839
Speaker 1: be eating your food, but it's always edible looking photos

1692
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 1: and the engagement that happens the likes or what you're

1693
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:34,759
Speaker 1: seeking here so people can share that or make comments,

1694
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:37,520
Speaker 1: and when they make comments, I've eating that, it's fantastic.

1695
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 1: That's what you're trying to do with social media. You're

1696
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:42,560
Speaker 1: trying to get people to sell your brand. And the

1697
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 1: way you sell your brand is by you gotta do

1698
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 1: your homework. If you're gonna if you your presentation is

1699
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:54,719
Speaker 1: really key in social media correct, branding, correct, absolutely correct,

1700
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 1: It was, it was critical, and it's from the photos,

1701
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 1: it's from the videos, any type of content. And I

1702
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 1: chose a mix of three to focus on and to

1703
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 1: have as our our roles so to speed so that

1704
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 1: if you look at our timeline you can kind of

1705
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:13,679
Speaker 1: see a flow that everything isn't in same You don't

1706
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 1: do one uh one particular thing, but the way that

1707
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 1: it flows it looks like we do. But um, you

1708
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 1: have to look at us to understanding. And that was

1709
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:25,640
Speaker 1: critical because you want people to kind of look at

1710
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 1: your feed the same way they look at individual posts.

1711
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:31,720
Speaker 1: And it's all about impressions even even if you don't

1712
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:33,560
Speaker 1: like it, even or even if they don't like it,

1713
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 1: even if they don't make a comment, you can see

1714
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:40,600
Speaker 1: how many impressions photo head or you can well and

1715
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 1: you don't know as well, um, once they do begin

1716
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 1: to like it, what photos work or what type of

1717
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:47,800
Speaker 1: content works and what doesn't work, And you got to

1718
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 1: say the information and use it and also also your approach,

1719
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 1: and that that's pretty much how you know social media

1720
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 1: works for us. It's it's a way when you do

1721
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 1: it right to avoid it's spending too many digital marketing

1722
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:05,720
Speaker 1: and marketing dollars that would be necessary if you don't

1723
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 1: have those did so for us it's like luckily, not

1724
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 1: not even lifically, but faithfually, like intercuting that plan. We've

1725
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 1: been able to build our social media page, I mean

1726
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:20,040
Speaker 1: on Instagram page up to see thousands or sixty five

1727
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 1: nothing followers now and this is like a year and

1728
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 1: three months in not eve than that. So uh, you know,

1729
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 1: we don't pay for following when we don't pay for life,

1730
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 1: well we're not. I'm not fans for nothing really aside

1731
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 1: from just uh really just your your your work, your work,

1732
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 1: taking the photos, your work, sitting down with your team,

1733
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:44,880
Speaker 1: being creative, because people have to understand that you gotta

1734
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:47,679
Speaker 1: have a plan. Social media has changed the game because

1735
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 1: it allows small entrepreneurs and major entrepreneurs to go out

1736
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 1: there and engage with regular people not only in the

1737
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 1: in the market of Atlanta, but you're actually marketing it

1738
01:30:57,080 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 1: around the world and around the country and people I

1739
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 1: know because I do that when I post I'm up,

1740
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:03,599
Speaker 1: I'm up. I'm gonna post some stuff for you man,

1741
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 1: because you know what happens is when I posted because

1742
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 1: I'm a foodie, I got seven Facebook followers, eight and

1743
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:14,560
Speaker 1: of my followers a female, and so I knew all this.

1744
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:17,800
Speaker 1: And so you know, seven of my audience is under

1745
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 1: the age of sixty four. So all my people eat,

1746
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:23,720
Speaker 1: they eat, okay, and so and so when I talk

1747
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:26,800
Speaker 1: about your your product, that means that when I post something,

1748
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:30,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna post it on the resar Rushaun Eats, recommending

1749
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 1: this is a place to go. But before we in

1750
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 1: this interview, I got to tell people why I got

1751
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 1: excited about your business. You do a lot of other

1752
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:38,600
Speaker 1: things on your menu, but I want to focus on

1753
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:44,519
Speaker 1: those fries and the Old Atlanta, the seafood Shalty, the Bluff,

1754
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:49,360
Speaker 1: the game game, the nineties six Olympics, the Magic City,

1755
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 1: the buckhead, mobster, lobster, and shrimp. Come on, now, now

1756
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:57,599
Speaker 1: here's the deal. His pricing, I feel is really good,

1757
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 1: like the Old Atlanta's fifteen dollars. The seafood shalty that

1758
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:04,760
Speaker 1: has shrimp and crabbing it okay, not shrimping, crabbing, and

1759
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 1: that come on that wild called shrimp. Okay, I apologize.

1760
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:13,679
Speaker 1: I showed at you on that brother. The seafood shot

1761
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:17,160
Speaker 1: is only eighteen dollars. The bluff is fifteen dollars, The

1762
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:21,559
Speaker 1: gang gang is fifteen dollars. Then Si Olympics and fifteen dollars,

1763
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 1: Magic City fifteen. Now the buckhead and the mobster, lobster

1764
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 1: and shrimp are The buckhead is thirty five dollars. But

1765
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 1: check this out, fried cajued lobster bites drizzled with the

1766
01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 1: homemade lemon garlic. Whoa boy right there? Come on now?

1767
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 1: And then you got the mobster, lobster and shrimp as

1768
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 1: broad lobsters, shrimp or butter oh on some French fries.

1769
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:53,559
Speaker 1: That's only twenty eight dollars. What is your most popular

1770
01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 1: French fried? Order their top two? What are your top two?

1771
01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 1: The talk to be first would be the bluff that's

1772
01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 1: the hot hunting lenon pepper and that goes over where.

1773
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:11,599
Speaker 1: And the second, I would say the seafood shouting because

1774
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 1: the people who love it absolutely love it and they

1775
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:21,000
Speaker 1: rarely you know, uh er from it. Now, le let

1776
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 1: me ask you this. Now there you do you? You

1777
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 1: do you cut your own fries? Do you make your

1778
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 1: fries or you order your fries? Your hand could freshly

1779
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 1: season and buy two people who love fries and do

1780
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:36,560
Speaker 1: it like six days a week. So yeah, we we

1781
01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:39,599
Speaker 1: everything is hand made. So you ordered the big old

1782
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 1: bags or potatoes, that's right? What what what do they

1783
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:46,559
Speaker 1: shipping man from? What do you get them shipped in from? Well,

1784
01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 1: i's got a matter of the ship and we're not

1785
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 1: doing any any pecurement yet for those kinds of uh delivery.

1786
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna pick it up, just gonna pick up. Okay,

1787
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 1: you do a lot of local. You just said, we're

1788
01:33:57,280 --> 01:34:00,160
Speaker 1: not there yet. We're gonna get all our potatoes and

1789
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:02,880
Speaker 1: then we prepare our orders. So I love this man

1790
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:05,559
Speaker 1: because you know that you have a dream that you're

1791
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 1: dealing with and you're making it happen every day and

1792
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:12,120
Speaker 1: every week. What's the future for Puncho Late Night Fry

1793
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:15,960
Speaker 1: Track to be an institution of a now right now

1794
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 1: we're small, but mighty right Yeah, we have a vision

1795
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 1: to be an institution of Ala. And that's why you

1796
01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 1: just here Atlanta and so much of good brand is

1797
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:30,559
Speaker 1: because that's what we're tied to, not in the sense

1798
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 1: that that's what we want to stay in this what

1799
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:34,560
Speaker 1: we want to keep it. That's where we know this

1800
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:38,639
Speaker 1: concept lives and um, where we wanted to bubble from

1801
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 1: my man, I really appreciate you taking the time coming

1802
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:44,280
Speaker 1: to my show because of the fact that you are

1803
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:47,880
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur that's at the early stage of and you're planning.

1804
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 1: You got a clear understanding how to market, You got

1805
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:52,560
Speaker 1: your apprecentation. You get it. You know a lot of

1806
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 1: people don't get it. They think they can open the

1807
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:56,280
Speaker 1: doors and the people just gonna come right on end.

1808
01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 1: People just gonna find and what they why when they

1809
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:01,400
Speaker 1: put up their tent. That's not true. That's not true.

1810
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 1: That's preparations. You have to be able to deal with

1811
01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 1: the bad days because there's gonna be a lot of

1812
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:09,360
Speaker 1: great days. But those bad days I call them turn

1813
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:11,559
Speaker 1: back days. Those are days that can make you go, man,

1814
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:13,880
Speaker 1: out of this. This ain't for me. And you know

1815
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:16,600
Speaker 1: that you've survived those and this is one of the

1816
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 1: big turn back days that's happening right now in everybody's life.

1817
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 1: Keep winning that, Puncho, and I'm glad you came on

1818
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:25,560
Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations. Man. Thank you. I appreciate you recognizing

1819
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 1: that and recognizing earth. Um. I can't wait until to

1820
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:31,559
Speaker 1: the future. I can come back in and you give

1821
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:34,400
Speaker 1: you enough there doing even better. Well, I'm gonna put

1822
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:36,519
Speaker 1: your rushawn eat and I'm gonna give you update right now.

1823
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 1: You're gonna be on rushawn eat. All my followers on

1824
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 1: my Facebook page seven four thousand, and I got thirty

1825
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 1: six thousands on my Instagram account, and we're just gonna

1826
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:48,880
Speaker 1: if if you're not busy, you're about to get busy.

1827
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:52,679
Speaker 1: Young brother, You're about to get busy, and we don't

1828
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 1: have to figure out how to get you start too.

1829
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 1: So just letting me know. I appreciate you, man. I

1830
01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:58,280
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on money and make it cover says

1831
01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 1: you've done your You're you're done your duty. Man man,

1832
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 1: thank you for having a platform and hate for all

1833
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:06,840
Speaker 1: y'all from all across the world. I appreciate him. Rashan

1834
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:09,760
Speaker 1: and you as aware um while it's on Instagram and

1835
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 1: before our trap awesome. If you want to hear more

1836
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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation interviews, go to Money Making Conversation dot com.

1837
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm Rashan McDonald. I'm your host. Adoption of teens from

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1847
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Speaker 1: in the forest trees? Sure you know? What else grows

1848
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 1: in the forest? Our imagination, a sense of wonder, and

1849
01:36:57,400 --> 01:37:00,479
Speaker 1: our family bonds grow too, because when we is connect

1850
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:07,120
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1851
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1855
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 1: What else grows in the forest? Our imagination, our sense

1856
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:29,960
Speaker 1: of wonder, and our family bonds grow too because when

1857
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:36,760
Speaker 1: we disconnect from this and connect with this, we reconnect

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Speaker 1: Find a forest near you and start exploring. I Discover

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Speaker 1: States Forest Service and the AD Council. My next guest,

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01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:53,920
Speaker 1: she's here. She's based in Atlanta. She's an award winning chef,

1863
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:58,320
Speaker 1: TV personality, owners slash chef of Twisted Soul, cook house,

1864
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 1: and poors A differ from kind of Chick, which is

1865
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 1: a new chicken pop up concept and Chicken I say

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01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 1: chicken chicken, cook cook chicken chicken pop up concept in

1867
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:10,599
Speaker 1: the letter. She's been featured on the Food Network, Travel Channel,

1868
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 1: The New York Times, Huffington Posts and BuzzFeed. BuzzFeed You

1869
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Speaker 1: never got a little fast desert about thirty seconds you

1870
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 1: cook up the world. Please welcome to UH Moneymaking Conversation.

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01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:25,800
Speaker 1: Chef Deborah f Treats. Thank you so much for that

1872
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:30,280
Speaker 1: in productive Well, first of all, I didn't make anything up,

1873
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:32,120
Speaker 1: you know, And that's the beauty of having a career

1874
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:35,160
Speaker 1: and being recognized for your talents. How do you feel

1875
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:37,800
Speaker 1: about it? Where you at right now? We're gonna get

1876
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:40,120
Speaker 1: to the restaurants and the pop ups, and this about

1877
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:42,240
Speaker 1: when I bring people on Money Making Conversation always, it's

1878
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:44,760
Speaker 1: always a journey because a lot of times when you

1879
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 1: come on my show, we're just talking about the end results,

1880
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:49,040
Speaker 1: and we all know that even we were talking about

1881
01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:52,560
Speaker 1: their results, they're still goals in place to make that

1882
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,600
Speaker 1: even bigger. But but as you speak of being a

1883
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:58,639
Speaker 1: featured on in the New York Times and Huffington Posts,

1884
01:38:58,680 --> 01:39:02,679
Speaker 1: which is a big digital imprint for magazines and online

1885
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 1: uh concepts and buzz Feats which is also video driven

1886
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:08,960
Speaker 1: and travel channel which you know that's TV. We know

1887
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 1: the Food Networks TV. How does that do it? What

1888
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:13,880
Speaker 1: does that do for your brand? And how has it

1889
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:19,240
Speaker 1: allowed your brand to be uh recognized throughout the world. UM,

1890
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:23,920
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's um immeasurable, you know, the now

1891
01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:28,640
Speaker 1: the positive impact that it's had on brands, UM, you

1892
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:32,440
Speaker 1: know it. You know, it was a text of textbook

1893
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:36,479
Speaker 1: way to have done that. UM. Some things just kind

1894
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:39,680
Speaker 1: of fell in the right places at the right time. UM.

1895
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:43,479
Speaker 1: And I took advantage of all the opportunities that were

1896
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:47,519
Speaker 1: presented to me. UM, seeing the big picture of this

1897
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:50,800
Speaker 1: marketing that you know I was getting, and you know,

1898
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:55,080
Speaker 1: being able to development. UM. You know, a brand that

1899
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:59,439
Speaker 1: was recognizable worldwide, and that's really important. I like what

1900
01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:02,280
Speaker 1: you said, you say, you know, sometimes you just gotta

1901
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 1: be ready to pivot when the opportunity presents yourself, because

1902
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:07,600
Speaker 1: we can't plan. Somebody calling you said, well, you make

1903
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:10,160
Speaker 1: an appearance on the Food Network and you can't sometimes

1904
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:12,519
Speaker 1: say I don't know, let me check my calendar. You

1905
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 1: have to say yes. And because these appearances somebody's you know,

1906
01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:22,840
Speaker 1: if they call you, somebody is ready to say yes

1907
01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:26,280
Speaker 1: if you say let me let me check, or they say, uh,

1908
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, well all this what what do you

1909
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:31,640
Speaker 1: want me to do? Even if even the tone you

1910
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 1: may ask the questions could could lose you the opportunity

1911
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:36,439
Speaker 1: to make an appearance on the network. What you know

1912
01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:39,400
Speaker 1: is what you're using your resumes to be able to

1913
01:40:39,479 --> 01:40:42,479
Speaker 1: get other opportunities. It really becomes a blessing. You gotta

1914
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:44,760
Speaker 1: you gotta not look at it as a as a

1915
01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:47,280
Speaker 1: as a difficult moment or a conflicting moment. You have

1916
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:49,200
Speaker 1: to say, how can I do it and make it happen?

1917
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Speaker 1: That's really what this is all about, right, That is

1918
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:56,720
Speaker 1: really exactly what it is. It's like I've always gone

1919
01:40:56,840 --> 01:40:59,240
Speaker 1: with that. I'm going to say yes and I will

1920
01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 1: figure out how I'm going to do it. But you know,

1921
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:05,760
Speaker 1: the opportunity, when it's there, you have to grab it

1922
01:41:05,880 --> 01:41:09,720
Speaker 1: because as as you just said, now they really keeps

1923
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:13,600
Speaker 1: going um and somebody else will grab at that opportunity.

1924
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:18,160
Speaker 1: So um. You know I I always look to see, Okay,

1925
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:20,680
Speaker 1: what how does this help me build my brand? What

1926
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 1: what positive impact is it's gonna have on it? And

1927
01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:27,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say yes now and we'll figure out the

1928
01:41:27,080 --> 01:41:29,439
Speaker 1: details of it later. Yeah. I want people to hear that,

1929
01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:32,200
Speaker 1: because some things are not always uh you know, well,

1930
01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 1: let me plan it out a month in advance. Well,

1931
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:38,639
Speaker 1: when you get reached a certain level of notoriety, yes

1932
01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:41,000
Speaker 1: you can think about it. Let me check my calendar.

1933
01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:44,520
Speaker 1: But when you're under the hustle of getting your brand recognized,

1934
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 1: getting your brand word of mouth, creating word of mouth

1935
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:50,240
Speaker 1: within the industry, you gotta ride with the opportunity that's

1936
01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:52,360
Speaker 1: given to you. And sometimes it might not be what

1937
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:54,160
Speaker 1: you want to do, but you make it work for

1938
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:56,280
Speaker 1: what you want, what you needed to do, and that

1939
01:41:56,520 --> 01:41:59,840
Speaker 1: is positive exposure for your brand. Now, here's something interesting.

1940
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:02,000
Speaker 1: Was going through your bio and said protest barking on

1941
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:05,680
Speaker 1: her culinary career. More than twenty years ago. Mr Van

1942
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:09,920
Speaker 1: Trees was a flight attendant for American Airlines and the

1943
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:11,960
Speaker 1: reason I wanted to bring that up because you know,

1944
01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 1: you're a chef and I've traveled a lot. That's which

1945
01:42:14,439 --> 01:42:16,439
Speaker 1: allows me to eat a lot of good food and

1946
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 1: different cultures and things like that. You said throughout your

1947
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:22,800
Speaker 1: your destination with throughout Europe, Latin America, the Middle East,

1948
01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:26,160
Speaker 1: and Southeast Asia. What effect did all this travel have

1949
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:31,160
Speaker 1: on your cooking style or or your culinary style today? UM?

1950
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:35,839
Speaker 1: It is you know, actually what makes my my cuisine

1951
01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:39,559
Speaker 1: a little bit different? UM. I tell people my cuisine

1952
01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:44,240
Speaker 1: is telling a story, and my story UM. And so

1953
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:47,400
Speaker 1: you know, you need to be able, you know, to

1954
01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:50,519
Speaker 1: you know, think outside of the box. I did not

1955
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:54,000
Speaker 1: want to be like everybody else. UM. And so I

1956
01:42:54,200 --> 01:42:58,040
Speaker 1: can find all of those travels UM, and I put

1957
01:42:58,160 --> 01:43:00,960
Speaker 1: them together to you know, come with the cuisine that

1958
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 1: I call globally inspired UM soul food. UM. So you know,

1959
01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:09,640
Speaker 1: I looked at different cultures and the foods that were

1960
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:14,120
Speaker 1: considered a regular or comfort food UM of those cultures

1961
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:17,800
Speaker 1: and brought it back and kind of yeah, put it

1962
01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 1: with my UM, African American culture of soul food and

1963
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:25,240
Speaker 1: yelps that the dishes that I come up with a

1964
01:43:25,320 --> 01:43:29,720
Speaker 1: combination of all those travels and of my upbring. Well,

1965
01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:32,160
Speaker 1: it's really funny because I'm gonna get to your definition

1966
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:34,439
Speaker 1: of soul food because I want to ask you that.

1967
01:43:34,600 --> 01:43:37,160
Speaker 1: But I was reading nearby, Say and Russia, French fries

1968
01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:40,920
Speaker 1: are more coveted than caviar seven first fry may I love?

1969
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:44,080
Speaker 1: So So it basically go you go to France, they

1970
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:45,640
Speaker 1: look at you and talking about French fries, they look

1971
01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:47,439
Speaker 1: at you like huh. You go to Russia and you

1972
01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:51,960
Speaker 1: talk about French fries, they go where And it allows

1973
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 1: for you, it's allows to us to see those different

1974
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:57,200
Speaker 1: cultures and how they react. And then you say soul food,

1975
01:43:57,560 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 1: I have to ask you, chef, Chef Deborah, what is

1976
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 1: so food? Um? You know, I think it means different

1977
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:07,840
Speaker 1: things to different people. UM. For me, it is food

1978
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:10,760
Speaker 1: that comes from the soul. And when I say that,

1979
01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:13,680
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like it's the food that is

1980
01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:19,120
Speaker 1: cooked from love. Um. The food that evokes memories, um.

1981
01:44:19,479 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 1: The food that you know, reminds us of where we

1982
01:44:23,479 --> 01:44:27,320
Speaker 1: came from. Um. Now, and those are the foods that

1983
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:30,120
Speaker 1: touch our hearts, they touch our souls. So that is

1984
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:35,120
Speaker 1: what soul food is. Okay. So, now when I look

1985
01:44:35,160 --> 01:44:37,280
Speaker 1: at the so food because it's very popular. You know

1986
01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:40,280
Speaker 1: when you get to uh when you get to certain

1987
01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:44,760
Speaker 1: places they're calling Southern delicacies and then you get as

1988
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:48,559
Speaker 1: you call it, soul food. UH person in the African

1989
01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:52,000
Speaker 1: American community, when I look at yams and yams at

1990
01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 1: uh on a southern restaurant, is the same that type

1991
01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:57,920
Speaker 1: of yams I have at a soul food restaurant. Or

1992
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:00,439
Speaker 1: sometimes the greens are different. You know, put a little

1993
01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:03,519
Speaker 1: ham or ham hops in your collar greens to give

1994
01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:06,200
Speaker 1: it that flavor. Some people, now we have vegans, they

1995
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:08,120
Speaker 1: don't want meet and so they have the red beans

1996
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:10,720
Speaker 1: without the sausage. And so there's so many different people,

1997
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:13,120
Speaker 1: so many different palates that we are playing and we're

1998
01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 1: dancing around nowadays. How do you find a menu that

1999
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:18,120
Speaker 1: are you trying to find a menu that works for

2000
01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:20,840
Speaker 1: the masses or trying to find a menu that will

2001
01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:23,720
Speaker 1: draw the masses to your your place of business? How

2002
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:28,640
Speaker 1: does that menu develop and work? Um, it's it's a

2003
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:34,439
Speaker 1: menu that Um it's interesting. I don't want to do

2004
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:39,320
Speaker 1: what everybody else is doing. I don't want you to experience,

2005
01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:42,720
Speaker 1: you know something, I want you to have the experience

2006
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:45,160
Speaker 1: with me that you're not going to find that's true

2007
01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 1: somewhere else that's true. And even though we might be

2008
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:49,960
Speaker 1: saying the same thing, right, even though we might be

2009
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:53,920
Speaker 1: doing the same chicken, the chicken experience is different. And

2010
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:56,759
Speaker 1: you see that with Hamburgers. You know, you have five guys,

2011
01:45:56,880 --> 01:46:00,960
Speaker 1: Bud Rutgers, McDonald's, Wendy's. Everyone is trying to draw based

2012
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:03,880
Speaker 1: on the experience that you will get at their establishment.

2013
01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:06,439
Speaker 1: And that's what you're doing, is two places of business

2014
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:12,160
Speaker 1: continue exactly. So you know, even if we look at

2015
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:20,200
Speaker 1: the traditional African Americans, UM, soul food by definition, going

2016
01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:24,240
Speaker 1: from region to regions, it's different, you know. So it's

2017
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:28,800
Speaker 1: it's more combined, you know, with with food than you know,

2018
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:32,680
Speaker 1: just a recipe. You know, it's a whole story behind it.

2019
01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:36,240
Speaker 1: And so it's in developing my menu, I'm trying to

2020
01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:40,320
Speaker 1: tell stories, you know. I want you to ask me, Um,

2021
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:43,360
Speaker 1: how did I come up with this dish? Um? I

2022
01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:46,880
Speaker 1: want to listen to you tell me stories you know

2023
01:46:47,080 --> 01:46:50,599
Speaker 1: about what is comforting to you? What is soul food

2024
01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:53,120
Speaker 1: to you? Um? And I want to go and I

2025
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:56,519
Speaker 1: want to interpret it in my way. UM. And I

2026
01:46:56,680 --> 01:47:01,679
Speaker 1: think that's what sets me apart for Um. Other restaurant tours,

2027
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:05,080
Speaker 1: which is important, you know, to find my own little niche,

2028
01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 1: you know, and my own brain and established it. So

2029
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:13,240
Speaker 1: those are the that's the process that I go through

2030
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:16,560
Speaker 1: when I'm trying to develop a menu. You know, I

2031
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:20,559
Speaker 1: wanted to be interesting, I wanted to be diverse, UM,

2032
01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:23,000
Speaker 1: and I wanted to have a story behind it that

2033
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:26,400
Speaker 1: touches my heart. Awesome. Here's a question before we go

2034
01:47:26,439 --> 01:47:27,720
Speaker 1: to the next break, because of the next break, I

2035
01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:30,679
Speaker 1: want to talk about your two restaurants, especially the pop

2036
01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:33,320
Speaker 1: up restaurant Chicken Restaurant that you have in Atlanta that

2037
01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:36,600
Speaker 1: launched this month. Um. What did your skill? Did you

2038
01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:39,719
Speaker 1: go to schools to develop your skills? They just naturally

2039
01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:42,640
Speaker 1: talk about the training that's tied to your skills as

2040
01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:46,599
Speaker 1: a cheft. Um, it's a combination. You know. I grew

2041
01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:50,160
Speaker 1: up um with the family of great cooks. Um. I

2042
01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:54,320
Speaker 1: grew up in the Midwest. Um, and then I had

2043
01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:58,280
Speaker 1: a father and grandfather that were, you know, big barbecue teams.

2044
01:47:58,400 --> 01:48:04,320
Speaker 1: So I grew up learning how about Um, Kansas City.

2045
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:07,400
Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna say Kansas City, that's that's barbecue

2046
01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:13,719
Speaker 1: town right there, exactly exactly, and it's like every chance

2047
01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:16,360
Speaker 1: I can, I'm barbecueing something up to putting it on

2048
01:48:16,479 --> 01:48:20,639
Speaker 1: the menu. Um. And then I did go to culinary school, um,

2049
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:25,280
Speaker 1: you know, and that traveling. So at one point I

2050
01:48:25,400 --> 01:48:30,080
Speaker 1: was married to a basketball player who played overseas, UM,

2051
01:48:30,280 --> 01:48:34,040
Speaker 1: and it gave me the opportunity to live in that

2052
01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:37,400
Speaker 1: culture and absorb it and going to people's homes, not

2053
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:41,360
Speaker 1: just restaurants. So it's a different experience, you know. So

2054
01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:45,400
Speaker 1: all of that combined is the training that I have

2055
01:48:45,920 --> 01:48:48,839
Speaker 1: that's gotten me to the place that I am today.

2056
01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:52,040
Speaker 1: It's created your voice for the food that you make

2057
01:48:52,280 --> 01:48:55,920
Speaker 1: on the phone. I have a chef, Deborah band Uh.

2058
01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:59,519
Speaker 1: She is um, a chef, a straordinary travel the world

2059
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 1: to her talents, going into homes, eating restaurants, places like

2060
01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:08,200
Speaker 1: Middle East, the Middle East, Southeast Asia, Latin America, Europe.

2061
01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:10,320
Speaker 1: But she's on the show to talk about She's based

2062
01:49:10,360 --> 01:49:12,479
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, and she's on the show to talk about

2063
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:14,960
Speaker 1: a couple of restaurants once to pop up Once, an

2064
01:49:15,120 --> 01:49:19,040
Speaker 1: established place called Twisted Soul Cookhouse and Pores. I'm assuming

2065
01:49:19,120 --> 01:49:25,800
Speaker 1: pores means liquor or poors means something else there. Okay, good,

2066
01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:28,160
Speaker 1: let's talk about that at First, let's talk twisted soul.

2067
01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:31,400
Speaker 1: Cook house. Cook house. It sounds like barbecue. That sounds

2068
01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:34,960
Speaker 1: like some some heat being generated in this building. Cookhouse

2069
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:37,960
Speaker 1: and poors talk about that that that place of business.

2070
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:45,879
Speaker 1: Uh well, it's it's um a warm gathering spot, gathering scribe,

2071
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:50,960
Speaker 1: a warm gathering spot. UM. Uh you know, it's a

2072
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:55,040
Speaker 1: great location in west midtown here in Atlanta. UM. You know,

2073
01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:58,559
Speaker 1: I have a very diverse clients, hell, very diverse group

2074
01:49:58,720 --> 01:50:02,599
Speaker 1: of cooks and for bass and those working. UM, we're

2075
01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:06,519
Speaker 1: very big on customer service. And we UM we love

2076
01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:11,879
Speaker 1: to serve your good food. UM. We use sustainable products.

2077
01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:16,120
Speaker 1: We UM utilized the local farmers, UM as much as

2078
01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:19,400
Speaker 1: we possibly can in our cooking. I mean you change

2079
01:50:19,439 --> 01:50:22,960
Speaker 1: this seasonally, UM, you know, and we just we have

2080
01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:26,360
Speaker 1: a good time with what we do. We've been there.

2081
01:50:26,479 --> 01:50:30,320
Speaker 1: I think we're in our fourth year business. Thank you,

2082
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:33,320
Speaker 1: thank you. Things are going good. Um, you know, and

2083
01:50:33,520 --> 01:50:36,200
Speaker 1: and you know now we're finding you know, this this

2084
01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:38,840
Speaker 1: new world that we're trying to navigate. You know, but

2085
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:42,320
Speaker 1: we talked about that part later, right, we don't do

2086
01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:44,120
Speaker 1: anything about it. Let's talk about the new world a

2087
01:50:44,160 --> 01:50:46,639
Speaker 1: little bit. I don't you know, because I have a nephew.

2088
01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 1: He has a he has like a roadside stand type

2089
01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:53,360
Speaker 1: restaurant on the in Houston, Texas. And he was really

2090
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:57,040
Speaker 1: ahead of the game with door Dash and uh we

2091
01:50:57,200 --> 01:51:00,960
Speaker 1: Eats and uh I think um one more after I

2092
01:51:01,160 --> 01:51:04,160
Speaker 1: apologize from not being said, but and it really so

2093
01:51:04,240 --> 01:51:08,600
Speaker 1: his business really was not affected by the pandemic, and

2094
01:51:08,720 --> 01:51:11,519
Speaker 1: so because of the fact that he'd already focused. And

2095
01:51:11,560 --> 01:51:13,360
Speaker 1: then he told me that I was talking to him

2096
01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:15,120
Speaker 1: the other day and he was saying that a lot

2097
01:51:15,160 --> 01:51:18,519
Speaker 1: of businesses are trying to get into that the door

2098
01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:20,640
Speaker 1: Dashes and the uber Eat to the world, and they

2099
01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:22,439
Speaker 1: can't grow up Hub. That's the other one. Grew up

2100
01:51:22,479 --> 01:51:24,479
Speaker 1: Hub because of the fact that it's starting to get

2101
01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:28,040
Speaker 1: backlogged and they can't handle the amount of applications to

2102
01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:30,759
Speaker 1: being made. And then people don't know how to process

2103
01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:34,519
Speaker 1: works and can I cannot you know, because their fees

2104
01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:36,439
Speaker 1: tied to everything that you do. These are none of

2105
01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:39,240
Speaker 1: these services are free. And so that's one of the

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Speaker 1: things that not only African American business but business in

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Speaker 1: general have learned that they have to change their whole platform.

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Speaker 1: Instead of being just a stand alone building that you

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Speaker 1: come in and you process, you while you eat that

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Speaker 1: did that affect your your your cook house, the cook

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Speaker 1: house and poors facility. Um, it's literally you know were

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Speaker 1: we saw a maybe six drop in sales immediately, um,

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Speaker 1: and quickly made the decision, you know, we needed to

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Speaker 1: close the doors and rethink this. Um. We weren't utilizing

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Speaker 1: any of the delivery services. So it wasn't as if

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Speaker 1: we could just you know, switch over um to that

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Speaker 1: and then to be quite honest that the fees that

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Speaker 1: they were charging were just ridiculous. Um, it wasn't would

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Speaker 1: not have been so bad if we you know, were

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Speaker 1: balancing that you know, prior with the restaurant actual in

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Speaker 1: house covers and then you know, your few takeout orders

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Speaker 1: here and there. Um. But we were just really in

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Speaker 1: house you know, and never ever had a need um

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Speaker 1: to utilize the service because most of the people coming

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Speaker 1: to Twisted, those are coming there for that warmth, fuzz

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Speaker 1: environment that coming to have a good time at a gathering. Um.

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Speaker 1: Real quickly we did through the scramble initially to you know,

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Speaker 1: try to get the grub hubs, the uber eat you know,

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Speaker 1: but with all that was going on, we also felt

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Speaker 1: like we had to lower our pricing structure and lower

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Speaker 1: the pricing structure and then get possibly thirty of it

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Speaker 1: away to a service which Nana was going to be

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Speaker 1: handling the predominant amount of your business. Um. It just

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Speaker 1: was not a plan that was going to work for us,

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Speaker 1: you know. So initially, UM, we slipped to a concept

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Speaker 1: of doing pre prepared meals for people to take away

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Speaker 1: and having our service staff turned them into delivery people. UM.

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Speaker 1: It was actually a little bit more efficient because at

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Speaker 1: the point when all this was happening, you know, the

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Speaker 1: big companies did get flooded and you know, they were

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Speaker 1: taking two hours and three hours to get people food. UM.

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Speaker 1: You know, so that worked for us as a temporary.

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Speaker 1: UM solution was to just have our our own people

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Speaker 1: doing our delivery. But on a broad scale, that's not

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Speaker 1: what we do, you know. So we knew, really, you know,

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Speaker 1: this is not something that's gonna sustain that's for very long. UM.

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Speaker 1: So we had to come up with a better solution

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01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:31,479
Speaker 1: than that. And that better solution is what the better

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Speaker 1: solution was, or is the pop up concept that transition

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Speaker 1: I just transition you to a shift that's all just

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01:54:38,680 --> 01:54:41,600
Speaker 1: just sliding over to the to the better solution is

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01:54:41,680 --> 01:54:46,760
Speaker 1: the pop up chick place better solution. It was the

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Speaker 1: thing that I had been thinking about for years. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, so the concept was already there was very

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01:54:54,080 --> 01:54:57,160
Speaker 1: clear in my head. Um. And it was something I

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01:54:57,320 --> 01:55:02,160
Speaker 1: foresaw you know, us doing in the future. UM. You know, well,

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Speaker 1: you know the future was here. You know, it was

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Speaker 1: you You got to make some changes. Um. You have

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Speaker 1: to be able to sustain yourself to move forward to

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01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:17,040
Speaker 1: ever do twisted soul, you know our chief twist to

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01:55:17,120 --> 01:55:19,880
Speaker 1: sol a lot, you've got to right down do something

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Speaker 1: that's going to sustain um. And the concept of a

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01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:28,840
Speaker 1: different kind of chick um was what we decided to

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Speaker 1: put in effect immediately. UM. You know. It was more conducive,

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Speaker 1: or is more conducive um for carry out, it's more

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Speaker 1: conducive for delivery. Um. The price point could be lower

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Speaker 1: because now we're we're trying to go with volume. Um.

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Speaker 1: And the most important thing about it was, you know,

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Speaker 1: we were doing chicken that was you know, free range,

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Speaker 1: you know, certified organic foods again still with our farm

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Speaker 1: to table vegetables. You know. So it's kind of a

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01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:04,080
Speaker 1: ways that we're starting to happen in the food industry anyway.

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Speaker 1: We just jumped on it real quick, which is very small,

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Speaker 1: Which is very small, And that's all. That's all I

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01:56:10,320 --> 01:56:12,040
Speaker 1: was just saying about my nephew. You know, he had

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Speaker 1: been doing it prior to the because you have to

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Speaker 1: make an adjustment in your menu prices when you bring

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Speaker 1: on these grub hubs and these door dashes and the

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Speaker 1: uber ease, And because he had already been doing it,

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Speaker 1: and I was a major adjustment in the pricing for

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01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:28,280
Speaker 1: these customers. I had already been in place then, when

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Speaker 1: nobody was stunned by because he didn't have to make

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01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:32,920
Speaker 1: the switch. But like you said, new customers like you

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01:56:33,240 --> 01:56:36,960
Speaker 1: that go to those services go wow, really, I gotta

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Speaker 1: pay this, well, I'm gonna charge for this. And so

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01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:43,360
Speaker 1: this concept that you have now a different kind of

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01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:45,840
Speaker 1: chick something you had in the back of your mind.

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01:56:46,600 --> 01:56:48,240
Speaker 1: There's not been moving to the front of your mine.

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01:56:48,400 --> 01:56:50,880
Speaker 1: And it is proven to be the profitable way for

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01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:53,920
Speaker 1: you to make business in this in this new world

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Speaker 1: that we live in today. Correct, Yes, exactly. Let's talk

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01:56:58,760 --> 01:57:00,400
Speaker 1: about that business that. Come on, let's talk about that.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna get fire up here, because I don't want

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01:57:02,640 --> 01:57:03,800
Speaker 1: to you know, I don't want this to become a

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01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:06,840
Speaker 1: down and you know, I'm trying to make it with Sean.

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01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:09,480
Speaker 1: I'm I'm trying to get there. What exactly is a

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Speaker 1: pop up? Though, you know, we get that term a lot.

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Speaker 1: What is a pop up? U pop up is generally

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Speaker 1: something that is, you know, coming up temporarily. It's something

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Speaker 1: you're doing for that moment. It's like, our pop up

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Speaker 1: is just gonna be a long term one, you know. Um,

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01:57:27,600 --> 01:57:30,960
Speaker 1: and what the plan is is one thing stabilized and

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01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:35,160
Speaker 1: we can actually you know, get back to the restaurant

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Speaker 1: as we knew them, which is going to be a while. Um,

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01:57:39,680 --> 01:57:43,320
Speaker 1: We'll be able to continue with Twisted so cook House

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Speaker 1: in that location that we're in presently and then transition

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Speaker 1: out a different kind of chick and put it permanently

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01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:56,360
Speaker 1: in another location. Awesome. Awesome, Well, let's talk about this

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Speaker 1: long term goal. Let's talk about this menu. Because the

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Speaker 1: menu involves fried chicken. And I'm from Houston, Texas. I'm

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Speaker 1: living in Lata, but I am a fried chicken food.

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01:58:07,240 --> 01:58:09,720
Speaker 1: I love me some good fried chicken. And so the creator,

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01:58:09,720 --> 01:58:12,520
Speaker 1: you have a creative menu featuring four different types of

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Speaker 1: chicken dishes. Let's talk about those chicken dishes that is

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01:58:15,280 --> 01:58:17,840
Speaker 1: available at the at a different kind of chicks, a

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Speaker 1: pop up that's in temporary locations around the city of Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: How do you notify people, chef? Actually, social media. Social

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01:58:27,760 --> 01:58:31,240
Speaker 1: media has been incredible and um, you know, we sent

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01:58:31,360 --> 01:58:35,280
Speaker 1: out a press release and the press jumped on it quickly. Um,

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01:58:35,880 --> 01:58:39,400
Speaker 1: we've had several articles written already, and you on my

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01:58:39,480 --> 01:58:42,320
Speaker 1: show this is great too. Yeah, And I'm like, yeah,

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01:58:42,520 --> 01:58:45,560
Speaker 1: this is this is perfect, this is perfect. You know.

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01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:50,760
Speaker 1: I think, um, it was helpful to do such an

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01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:54,320
Speaker 1: extreme pivot and do it quickly. UM. So you know

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01:58:54,400 --> 01:58:56,840
Speaker 1: it's something to people are paying assistance because we're all

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01:58:56,920 --> 01:58:59,800
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to maneuver um. You know.

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01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:02,000
Speaker 1: So this is you know, one of the ways that

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01:59:02,240 --> 01:59:05,920
Speaker 1: you can possibly run from maduver um. So we've got

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01:59:06,040 --> 01:59:11,040
Speaker 1: the four types of main entree chicken, UM, fried chicken

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01:59:11,520 --> 01:59:14,600
Speaker 1: with a staple. It's actually the same dish that we

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01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:19,120
Speaker 1: have on our original Twisted goal Um cook house menu, UM,

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01:59:19,200 --> 01:59:21,880
Speaker 1: except for now you get one extra piece of chicken

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01:59:22,040 --> 01:59:26,680
Speaker 1: and it's a little bit less expensive. Um. It comes

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01:59:26,760 --> 01:59:30,680
Speaker 1: with the incredible side that you get to choose. Okay,

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01:59:30,720 --> 01:59:33,480
Speaker 1: let's talk about those sides because those sides are to

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01:59:33,560 --> 01:59:36,160
Speaker 1: a good bill. Talk about those sides. Now, that's not

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01:59:36,920 --> 01:59:39,160
Speaker 1: let's got past. The chicken is the is, the is

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01:59:39,200 --> 01:59:41,360
Speaker 1: the brigger to the table. But it's the size that

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01:59:41,480 --> 01:59:43,200
Speaker 1: makes you sit there and savor at the moment. Come

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Speaker 1: on now, exactly exactly, So your chicken is your big bird,

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01:59:47,840 --> 01:59:51,760
Speaker 1: and what's your big birds? You get two sides? Okay, Um,

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01:59:52,120 --> 01:59:56,600
Speaker 1: so you have a choice of a garlic mashed potato. Um.

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01:59:57,440 --> 02:00:02,040
Speaker 1: You have raised greens. We have mac coronians cheese. We

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02:00:02,160 --> 02:00:04,480
Speaker 1: have a brown rice pea loss so we have a

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Speaker 1: healthier option. And then we have so I played farm vegetables,

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Speaker 1: which changed weekly depending on what we what's available through

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02:00:12,320 --> 02:00:16,800
Speaker 1: our local farmers. Brown rice, I've become. I've become such

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Speaker 1: a big fan of brown rice. Now you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: a white rice guy. I grew up, you know, for

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Speaker 1: white rice on the thing on my table. So I've

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Speaker 1: resisted the whole you know, brown rice world. And now

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Speaker 1: when you say brown rice p lof I have to

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Speaker 1: try that because I love p lof rice period. And

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Speaker 1: when you say brown rice, that really that really piques

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Speaker 1: my interest on exactly what that is is the taste

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Speaker 1: of that because that sounds sounds good and original. That's

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Speaker 1: the whole portion you was talking about your whole brand

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02:00:45,720 --> 02:00:48,920
Speaker 1: being very creative and coming up with creative menus because

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Speaker 1: of the fact that you know, we all, like said,

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Speaker 1: everybody's selling chicken out there. What makes your chicken different?

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02:00:54,000 --> 02:00:57,280
Speaker 1: What makes your service different? But I'm assuming that service

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02:00:57,320 --> 02:01:02,200
Speaker 1: plays a big role in your brand anyway. Correct, definitely

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02:01:02,280 --> 02:01:05,720
Speaker 1: plays a big role. UM. And then sourcing where we're

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Speaker 1: getting our foods from, UM, and we are paying attention

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Speaker 1: to the trends UM. You know in our customers that

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Speaker 1: they want to know where their food is sourced from.

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Speaker 1: They want to know that their vegetables are fresh. Now

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Speaker 1: that I hand picked the chicken that I would use,

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Speaker 1: they want to know those things, and those are the

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Speaker 1: things that we're playing upon UM, you know, and I

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Speaker 1: think those are the things that makes this this pop

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Speaker 1: up work well. First of all, tell us how we

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02:01:34,200 --> 02:01:35,960
Speaker 1: can go to your social media, so that's how we

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02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:37,920
Speaker 1: can find out about to pop up. I definitely want

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Speaker 1: you to send a banner to me so I can

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Speaker 1: post it on my social media. I really want to

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Speaker 1: support businesses. I want to give it's free as an

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02:01:44,400 --> 02:01:46,960
Speaker 1: avenue that I've created to be able to bring exposure

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02:01:47,040 --> 02:01:49,960
Speaker 1: to these to any the small businesses. You know, they

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02:01:50,000 --> 02:01:53,200
Speaker 1: can say the state's reopening, but it's not reopening, especially

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02:01:53,240 --> 02:01:55,720
Speaker 1: when it comes to this social distancing. So we have

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02:01:55,840 --> 02:01:57,720
Speaker 1: to be small. So give us some our ways that

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02:01:57,800 --> 02:01:59,880
Speaker 1: we can reach out and follow you so we can,

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Speaker 1: you know, make our way to one of these pop ups. Uh, definitely,

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Speaker 1: um our website twist us so cook House and towards

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Speaker 1: dot com. We're on Instagram a twisted so cook House

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Speaker 1: or follow me on Instagram at Debra at Chef Debra

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Speaker 1: van Tree um and we're always posted Facebook, you know

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Speaker 1: you name it social media, we're on there. Well, I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you something. It's fantastic to hear from you. I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate you taking your time to come on the show.

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02:02:28,640 --> 02:02:32,080
Speaker 1: But more importantly, we will support you through our social media,

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Speaker 1: through our newsletters, because as a family is how we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get through this. As a family is how we're

2295
02:02:37,520 --> 02:02:40,160
Speaker 1: gonna win this. We know how this pandemic is over

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02:02:40,400 --> 02:02:44,520
Speaker 1: overtly affecting overly affected I should say, African Americans in

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02:02:44,560 --> 02:02:48,000
Speaker 1: our communities around the world, especially in this country. More importantly,

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Speaker 1: thank you for coming on my show. Chef Devera Van Treats.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me on the show.

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Speaker 1: It's really important that we do support each other. And

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Speaker 1: I so so appreciate being able to stick figure audience today.

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Speaker 1: Are they're gonna respond? Believe me, Maya. Every time I

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Speaker 1: post about I'm a foodie, and go to my social

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Speaker 1: media at Rashaw McDonald. On my Facebook page, you'll see

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Speaker 1: when I talk about food, my fans love me. And

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Speaker 1: so this a restaurant we're gonna support. I'm asking some

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Speaker 1: photos so we can quick feature in rashawn Eats and

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Speaker 1: so we can build this brand out so you can

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Speaker 1: wheel big so you can win big time. Is that cool?

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I will take that awesome. Awesome.

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Speaker 1: If you want to hear more interviews money Making Conversation interviews,

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Speaker 1: please go to Money Making Conversation dot com. I'm Rashan McDonald.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host. In this season of Giving, Cools has

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