1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Cardinals Locker Room Show, presented by sand 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: Tanford in Gill, home of the tim Hoping Satisfaction. 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: Guarantee cool Man. 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: Come on, let's get back to the stadium for analysis 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: and exclusive interviews from the Cardinals' locker room. Here's Dave 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: fash AQW Shipley and All Calvi's. 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 3: A long season has finally come to an end. The 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 3: Cardinals lose to the LA Rams by a final score 9 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 3: thirty seven to twenty, after leading twenty to sixteen late 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 3: in the third looked like the Cardinals were the better team, 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 3: not saying they were, but looked like they were the 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 3: better team for about three quarters. They were out playing LA. 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,319 Speaker 3: Cardinals had a bad turnover early, basically just gifting LA 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 3: three points, yet the Cardinals still had the lead. They 15 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 3: had scored two touchdowns in the third quarter with a 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 3: couple of explosive plays after a fake punt, but and 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 3: the Cardinals surrendered three touchdowns quickly and it got out 18 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 3: of hand and the Rams win at thirty seven to twenty. 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissette with two touchdowns and the loss Matthew Stafford 20 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 3: four touchdown passes in the win. Michael Wilson finishes with 21 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 3: ninety nine receiving yards and a touchdown, so well over 22 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 3: one thousand yards, which is remarkable a Q when you 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 3: consider that, you know, we really didn't see much of 24 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:23,199 Speaker 3: Michael Wilson being a factor. Not sure why, not sure 25 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 3: what took so long. Part of it, I'm sure was 26 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 3: him just needing the opportunity. But it's great to see 27 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 3: that Wilson, in about a forty percent of a season's work, 28 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: gets over a thousand, which tells you big things are ahead. 29 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: The interesting thing thinking back to the early part of 30 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 2: the season versus the latter half of this season with 31 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: Michael Wilson is through the first five games, we've talked 32 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: about this a lot, and the fact that he only 33 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: had fifty two yards receiving basically, and then all of 34 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: a sudden just takes off and within every play there's 35 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: an opportunity or an option to get it to any 36 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: of the three receivers, plus the tight end, plus the back, 37 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: so there's really five options on almost every single play design. 38 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: And early on in the season it seemed as if 39 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: every single play went to Marvin Harrison Junior or Trey McBride. 40 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: It never got off of those two and whether they 41 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: were the first option in the second option and it 42 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: only got that far, or if there was just force 43 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 2: feeding early in the season, but all of a sudden, 44 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 2: once you let the plays develop and get through the 45 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: progressions and get the ball to where it needs to be, 46 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: and who the best option is, it seemed to be 47 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: the best option was Michael Wilson, Right, I mean, I 48 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: think I think that's become very evident and very clear 49 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: throughout the latter half of the season that the best 50 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: option is either Michael Wilson or Tray McBride. Throughout the 51 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: second half of the season, you can argue Michael Wilson 52 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: has become the absolute number one go to guy on 53 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: this team. 54 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 3: So whoever is calling the plays next year, whether that's 55 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: Drew Petsing or somebody else, the Cargals need to figure 56 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 3: that out. How that's gonna work. When Marvin Harrison Junior 57 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 3: is fully healthy, where does he best fit in, how 58 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 3: do we get Michael Wilson involved? And the Cardinals obviously 59 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 3: will try to add some weapons to the offense, but 60 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 3: that's gonna be one of the first things that the 61 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 3: Cardinal will have to figure out in the offseason. All Right, 62 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: Klais Campbell hopefully not his last game, but he's standing 63 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 3: by with Paul. 64 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 4: Well, with that in mind, let me ask you, let's 65 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 4: just start with this. If there was a thought bubble 66 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 4: over your head right now, what are you thinking? Tell 67 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,399 Speaker 4: us your thoughts this in this moment right here. 68 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 5: Well, I'll read have a gas. 69 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 6: I mean I only played like one or two players 70 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 6: and second half I mean all the all the special things, 71 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 6: but play like one play. First half I played twenty 72 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 6: six and I was out there flying around and I 73 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 6: mean tried to leave it on the field, and I 74 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 6: think I accomplished that. But I wish I had a 75 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 6: little more than the second half. I was just you know, 76 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 6: the one that the series went. You know, I didn't 77 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 6: get a chance to play much. But I'll say that, 78 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 6: you know, have fun out there. I mean sex to lose, 79 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 6: But I tell myself, I just wanted to play some 80 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 6: good football, you know, just you know, your bimber letting 81 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 6: us play with good hands, five off the ball and 82 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 6: had some fun and you know for like you know, 83 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 6: the first half, I compa shot, you know, but it 84 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 6: wasn't much of a second. 85 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 5: I thought I was done. 86 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 4: So where did this game turn? One question about the game. 87 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 4: You know, where where where in your mind? I mean, 88 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 4: because they twenty to sixteen Cardinals letting the third quarter 89 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 4: and the Rams respond with twenty one unanswered at that point. 90 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I mean there was a couple of plays. 91 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 6: You know, they started running the ball, they switched up 92 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 6: their run game. They were you know, doing what thought 93 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 6: they were going to do, and we were shutting it down. 94 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 6: And they made some adjustments and got some got some 95 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 6: you know, some big plays in the run game, which 96 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 6: I think opened up their play action. And then you know, 97 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 6: just you know, play here, play there. You know, miscommunication, 98 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 6: guys are open, you know, just I mean, they put 99 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 6: us some tough spots. 100 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 5: But I really feel like. 101 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 6: I mean, if if you know, Mike Wilson had that 102 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 6: big play and it got called back for I don't 103 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 6: know if it's somebody said blindside block or whatever was, 104 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 6: whatever the situation was. You know, I think if he 105 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 6: makes that play, at think we win that ball game. 106 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 6: If I mean he made the play, but if we 107 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 6: get the think it's upheld. I think we won that 108 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 6: ball game. But you know, good team like that, you 109 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 6: start giving the momentum, you know, make a few players 110 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 6: and they're gonna they're gonna get you every time because 111 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 6: they're just such a good, well coached team and they 112 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 6: have so many playmakers. So you know, you gotta take 113 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 6: advantage the opportunities from there. 114 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 4: Klais Campbell's our guess what did you soak in the 115 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 4: most this last month, this last stretch of games. Were 116 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 4: you sure to sort of I don't know, savor or 117 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 4: really value certain aspects in the final days here. 118 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 6: Well, I think the last two weeks I have have 119 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 6: been a lot of savoring. You know. I think once 120 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 6: we got limited from the playoffs, things are a little different. 121 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 6: You know, it was just you know, I mean, the 122 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 6: way my body felt was different. Everything was good. But 123 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 6: the last two weeks I felt good. I felt like, 124 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 6: you know, I just wanted to just play some good 125 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 6: football all. I didn't really care about those stats, care 126 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 6: about you know anything, just wanted to play some good football. Yeah, 127 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 6: so I flew around, have fun. 128 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 5: Out there to day. 129 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 6: Last week you know, both of them were you know, losses, 130 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 6: I think, you know, pretty bad. But you know, from 131 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 6: from a little kid that just drenk aroout playing in 132 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 6: the NFL, you know, all my life since I was six, 133 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 6: I love football, you know, and I had this dream 134 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 6: of being here. It felt good to just go out 135 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 6: there and play some football. Even though you know we're 136 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 6: out of the playoffs. You're not playing for anything. You're 137 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 6: just out there as you know, as as a person 138 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 6: that's trying to make my younger self. That kidding me proud, 139 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 6: you know, trying to inspire other kids out there that 140 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 6: want to play the game. Just play it the right way, 141 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 6: you know. I don't worry about the results, don't worry 142 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 6: about you know, wins and losses, you know, just play 143 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 6: football the right way and have fun doing it. 144 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 7: For fans who are wondering, have you made the decision yet? 145 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 6: No, No, there's no decision. May yet, there's no decision. 146 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 5: Maya. 147 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 6: I will say that, you know, it's fifty fifty probably, 148 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 6: you know, and we'll see how my body feels, you know. 149 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, got through. I think somewhat healthy. 150 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm probably gonna get stuff image make sure 151 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 6: I'm good. But I got through somewhat healthy, which I 152 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 6: think is the number one thing. 153 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 5: Right. 154 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 6: If you get through healthy, you got a shot. If 155 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 6: you're hurt, you know, there's probably gonna be done. So 156 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 6: got through healthy. But right now, I can't. I can't 157 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 6: even tell you. I think it's fifty to fifty. Man, 158 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 6: A lot of guys on the rams you're telling me 159 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 6: I can't. I can't, I can't hang it up. You're 160 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 6: playing two good. You gotta play again, you know which 161 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 6: I appreciate. Well, your opponents think you should play again. 162 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 6: I don't know if that's a good thing or not. Actually, 163 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 6: you think about a little longer as hold on you 164 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 6: think you. 165 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 5: Can beat me? No, no, no, I think as a compliment. 166 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 6: But you know, even some of the coaches are like, man, 167 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 6: you still up more in the tank, don't shut it down. 168 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 5: But we'll see. We'll see, man, just one day at 169 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 5: a time. 170 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 4: Because I see you getting feedback from opponents all the 171 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 4: time out there. I don't know what they're saying, but 172 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 4: it looks like it's pretty dang complimentary. Right, So, if 173 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 4: there's a fifty percent chance you're done, how emotional is 174 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 4: this moment for you right now? 175 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 5: Well? 176 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 6: I tell myself I didn't want to think about it emotionally, 177 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 6: like I just want to go ahead and play good football. 178 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 6: I told myself, don't worry about it's your last game. 179 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 6: Don't worry about anything, just call out here and play 180 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 6: a good football game. And in the first half, I 181 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 6: feel like I played his bouds because I could play, 182 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 6: you know. I mean, of course, you know, you come 183 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 6: a place here, A couple pays every bush could play 184 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 6: a little better. But I played about as because I 185 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 6: could play. Feel like I saw my work. But I 186 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 6: just I shot my wine. 187 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 5: I handed the left. 188 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 7: You know. 189 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 6: The second half it was just like okay, you know, 190 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 6: but it's you know, Week eighteen with an early buy 191 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 6: and played every game, you know, so I mean, you know, 192 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 6: it sucks. I probably could have paid myself a little better. 193 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 6: I think if the game was, if it mattered more 194 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 6: and we had a chance to win, probaly would have 195 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 6: paid myself a little better so I could be have 196 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 6: something left in the tank. But you know, I just 197 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 6: told myself, I just emptied the tank. I emptied it 198 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 6: earlier than I wanted to. But you know, but I 199 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 6: wasn't worried about like the emotion of this, Like I 200 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 6: don't you know, I feel like, you know, I don't 201 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 6: ever think that the emotion of being the last is 202 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 6: whether gonna be a bigger deal. I kind of the 203 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 6: elevas Joe is my my big bro. And he always said, like, 204 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 6: you know, just he went off in the sunset and 205 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 6: not gonna be a big emotional, no press comforce something 206 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 6: like that. So I'm probably gonna get the same thing 207 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 6: when my time comes, if it is now, and you 208 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 6: won't really get a big press comfort. 209 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 5: So you know, you just know, I'm done. 210 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 4: We could do an hour here, but let me ask 211 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 4: you this, is there something you're most proud of and 212 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 4: or is there something you want a lot of these 213 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 4: young guys maybe take away from your game aim in 214 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 4: your career, because we go all the way back to 215 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 4: when you were a rookie with a sky report said 216 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 4: they faltered you for not having a motor, which is 217 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 4: just absurd and hilarious and laughable. At this point, you're 218 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 4: in year eighteen. But is there one aspect of your 219 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 4: career that we could talk about for an hour that 220 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 4: you're most proud of? 221 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 6: Oh? Man, you know, I remember being a rookie. I 222 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 6: remember talking to Chris Carter at the Rookie supposed you. 223 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 6: We used to do that back in the day, and 224 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 6: it was like after he'd got done speaking to the 225 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 6: whole group, and it's a couple of us over there 226 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 6: talking to him kind of one on one, and he 227 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 6: said something in the speech that I kind of just 228 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 6: wanted to ask him about. I remember him just saying, like, 229 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 6: you know, play the game in a way that the 230 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 6: ghost of the game, the guys that you looked up to, 231 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 6: will be proud of, you know, when nobody, when nobody's 232 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 6: watching and you out there just competing, play the game 233 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 6: in such a way that the you know, Reggie Whites, 234 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 6: the Bruce Smiths, the Michael straight Hands, they'd be proud 235 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 6: of the way you. 236 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 5: Play the game. 237 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 6: And so for me, you know, when I talked to 238 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 6: those you know, to you know, I mean, you know 239 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 6: straight hand the first time he told me respected my game, 240 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 6: and I mean everything to me. You know, Bruce Smith 241 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 6: has become a mentor, but when he tells me like 242 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 6: he loves my game, that means every to me. Even 243 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 6: Charles Buckley text me this morning, you know, telling me 244 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 6: to to get the sack, you know, get my money, 245 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 6: which I didn't do, but you know, but I mean 246 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 6: that means everything to me. When the when the guys 247 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 6: that I look up to him with respect and that 248 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 6: were my idols, you know, tell me that they appreciated 249 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 6: why playing the game that means everything to me. So 250 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 6: I think about my career and like, you know what 251 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 6: it you know, what it represented. What it's tough for 252 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 6: was that, like, man, I was on to play at 253 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 6: till level where I did the right you know, I 254 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 6: did it right. You know, I did it my way, 255 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 6: you know, little Fecsinatra, I did it my way. 256 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 2: You know. 257 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 6: I played the run game just as good as the 258 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 6: past game. I was elite, you know, shutting down you know, 259 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 6: you know, I mean getting TFLs to shut down people 260 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 6: in the Run game, but also getting sacks, you know, 261 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 6: and that's a great pride of doing both. So you know, 262 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 6: I mean it sounds like I'm saying goodbye talk about 263 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 6: my career, but I mean we'll see you know who knows. 264 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 4: Look, you're that rare player who's on a first name 265 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 4: basis with this state of errors. So just in case, 266 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 4: we just want to say, on behalf of everyone the 267 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 4: Red Sea and beyond all of us in the media, 268 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 4: thank you. It's certainly been a pleasure to cover you 269 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 4: and watch your career, most of which was spent in Arizona. 270 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 7: So thanks class. 271 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 5: I appreciate that, Baby Bird gang, love you all. 272 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 7: Right, guys, back up to you. 273 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: Good stuff there from Calais, and even Kalais said, it 274 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 3: sounds like, you know, that's his farewell interview, But who knows, 275 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: maybe there's a chance. I'm sure you were in his shoes. Aque. 276 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 3: What's going through his mind? You played, you know, twelve 277 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 3: years in the league. What's going through his mind as 278 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 3: he started to think about what to do next. 279 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 2: It's interesting as I got older, it was like every 280 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 2: single year it was like, is this going to be 281 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: your last? And very similar to kind of how he was. 282 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: It was every year I came out health, he was like, okay, 283 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:49,599 Speaker 2: here we go. Mine was a little bit of a 284 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 2: different situation because my neck injury occurred during the season 285 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: and it was basically like, you can't play anymore. So 286 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: there was no decision to be made. It was that 287 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: decision was made for me. If you're in his position, 288 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 2: that's a tough decision because whenever the game is over, 289 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 2: this is the one sport you can go play pick 290 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 2: up basketball, tell however old you want to. You can 291 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: go play golf, you can go play baseball and some 292 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 2: beer league or do whatever. This is the one sport 293 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 2: you can never duplicate. When you're done with this game. 294 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: This game is done with you, and it's hard to 295 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 2: leave because there's so many things that you miss when 296 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: you're done. The biggest thing I miss when I'm done 297 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: is the locker room. It's the camaraderie. It's the boys, 298 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 2: it's the stories, it's the plane rides, it's all of 299 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 2: the things. And you miss all those things, and you 300 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 2: can't duplicate that. You certainly can't duplicate walking in front 301 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 2: of a stadium and hearing one hundred and ten thousand people, 302 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: and you can't duplicate those feels and the adrenaline and 303 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: all of the different things. So I'm sure all of 304 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 2: those emotions are sitting there in his head right now 305 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: and he's like, man, what do I do? And I 306 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: still played pretty good. I still probably was the best 307 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 2: interior guy on this team this year. I still had 308 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: some statistics to back it up. And then people are 309 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 2: telling me I can play. But then again, you're thirty 310 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 2: eight and you wake up and I remember there was 311 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: one offseason where my foot and ankle didn't feel right 312 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: until May almost, and so those are the times where 313 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: you're like, oh, maybe it's. 314 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 3: Time you transition. Pretty quickly and easily to both coaching 315 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 3: and broadcasting, and you're still doing some coaching work and 316 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 3: mentoring work with young offensive linemen. For somebody like Kaleis 317 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 3: Campbell and anybody that's thinking about the next step, but 318 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 3: particularly Kalais, does that weigh into your decision, like what 319 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 3: do I do next? You had in mind, I think 320 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 3: what you wanted, or at least a couple of things 321 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 3: that you wanted. I don't know that Khalais knows what 322 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 3: he wants to do next. Does that play a role 323 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 3: if he's like, I don't know what I'm gonna do 324 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 3: after this, Maybe I just want. 325 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 7: To do nothing? 326 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: Absolutely? I mean, I think that's one of the things. 327 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: But the biggest piece of advice I can give anybody who's, 328 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: you know, contemplating retirement, are about to go into retirement. 329 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 2: The biggest thing is is you do this for so long, 330 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: especially if you've had a ten plus year career, you 331 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 2: do this and then you're you're behind all the people 332 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 2: in your age group that went into their field, and 333 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: so it's like, what do I do next? And so 334 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 2: many people get lost and they don't know where to go, 335 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 2: and they don't dive in. I think the biggest thing 336 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 2: that if you're going to be done with something, be 337 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 2: done with it. Don't second guess that and go into 338 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: the next field and whatever that next field is. Don't 339 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 2: have one pinky in one tow in. Dive head first in. 340 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 2: I heard Kevin Hart say that one time, if you 341 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: leave yourself no other options, you'll probably have success doing 342 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: what you decide to dive headfirst into. But if there's 343 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: a plan B, or if there's a boat waiting for 344 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: you at the end of the at the end of 345 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 2: the road, then you know, then you probably won't succeed 346 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: in that. So whatever that is, if this is it 347 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: and he decides to go into something, dive head first. 348 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 3: Cardinals Locker Room Show presented by Tim Hovey, Santan Ford, 349 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 3: and Gilbert Right on the Price, right on the corner 350 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: of the Sandtan two two Freeway and Valvista. We are 351 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 3: waiting Jonathan Gannon, the Cardinals head coach. All right, a Q, 352 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 3: let's get back to the game and the season. If 353 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 3: you're the Cardinals, what do you think. I'm not gonna 354 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 3: ask you obviously about you know, who stays, who goes, players, coaches, whatever, 355 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 3: Just in terms of what you need to address first 356 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 3: and foremost. If you're Michael Bidwell and you're trying to 357 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 3: figure out, Okay, this is the first thing I need 358 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 3: to look at to try to improve this team for 359 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, what would you have in mind? 360 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 2: I think the first thing is every body from top 361 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: to bottom should look themselves in the mirror and be 362 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: quite honest. And then from there you got to make decisions. 363 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 3: All Right, we'll get back to that. Coach is standing 364 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 3: by with Paul. 365 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 4: All right, coach, well, we talked to you at halftime. 366 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 4: You come out at halftime, and Jacobey said, a couple 367 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 4: of touchdown passes, the d got a couple of three 368 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 4: and outs, and it seemed like the catalyst in a 369 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 4: way was that fake punt. The guys sort of, I 370 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 4: don't know, respond to that, and because there was some 371 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 4: good ball there most of the third quarter after that 372 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 4: fake punt. 373 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, I thought that was a you know, obviously a 374 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 8: good play by Matt. We had that up, felt good 375 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 8: about it, and then we scored the next play, cut 376 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 8: the lead to three, then got off three and out 377 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 8: punt scored again, took the lead. But you know, give 378 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 8: credit to LA they did a good job there in 379 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 8: the late third and the fourth quarter out executed us 380 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 8: won a game. 381 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, was there anything that changed? 382 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 4: They had the three touchdown drives in all three touchdown 383 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 4: passes where the tight ends. Was there anything in particular 384 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 4: because they put twenty one up in a row at 385 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 4: that point. 386 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, we obviously didn't do a good enough job I 387 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 8: thought stopping the run. And then you're playing in mixeddowns 388 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 8: all day. It's gonna be tough, you know. 389 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 4: I know a priority was getting them to third down. 390 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 4: When you did, though, and you did with regularity ten 391 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 4: of the fifteen if I'm seeing a correct where two 392 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 4: yards or fewer, so I just tell us about that. 393 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 8: How I mean those third downs you got to play 394 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 8: as mixed downs, It's going to be hard to get off, 395 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 8: you know what I mean, especially when a lot of 396 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 8: those are in four down territory. So it's not even 397 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 8: really third down at that point to me. But you know, 398 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 8: he just got They did a good job of first 399 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 8: and second down, staying on schedule, being efficient, and took 400 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 8: advantage of the third and shorters. 401 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 7: A couple of individual questions. 402 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 4: Josh Sweat his career high twelve sack, How gratifying was it? 403 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 7: To see him get his career high there. 404 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,959 Speaker 8: Yeah, he had a good year, man, if you know, 405 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 8: he did what he was supposed to do when he 406 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 8: got here, and I'm proud of him. 407 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 4: We didn't expect to see Elijah Jones and he comes in. 408 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 4: He had two pass breakups, his first real defensive snaps 409 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 4: to see out of him. 410 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,239 Speaker 8: Yeah, I thought he did a good job. You know, 411 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 8: Max was you know, just he went down at the 412 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 8: inactive list there when he's warming up, got a heel 413 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 8: and Elijah, sure enough, you know, Will goes, you know, 414 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 8: he gets hurt, nicked. Elijah comes in and played well. 415 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 8: I was proud of him. I thought he did a 416 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 8: good job. 417 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 7: You know. 418 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 4: Pooka Nakua one of the best in the business. Obviously, 419 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 4: Michael Wilson came out in the same draft. There were 420 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 4: those who compared them just because they have similar body types. There, 421 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 4: you know, the real dogs. They attacked the football. What 422 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 4: has the NFL learned about Michael Wilson. He's a thousand 423 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 4: yard receiver officially. 424 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 6: Yeah. 425 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 8: He was a warrior all year man, you know, and 426 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 8: and I felt like, you know, he was battling all 427 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 8: year and made a bunch of plays and you know, 428 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 8: that's what good players do. They they maximize their opportunity. 429 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 8: And he was consistent with it. You know, it wasn't 430 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 8: one game here, one game there, wasn't he didn't get 431 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 8: a ton of targets early in the year, and then 432 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 8: you know, he kind of just took off and he 433 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 8: was you know, that's a guy too. With Marv kind 434 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 8: of out of the lineup a little bit, really took 435 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 8: over as rod receiver won and they consistently and played 436 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 8: really good ball. I'm proud of him this year, man. 437 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 7: Yeah. 438 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 4: How much of that is him growing into the role 439 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 4: or was it just a matter of him getting an opportunity. 440 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,239 Speaker 5: I mean a little bit of both, you know. 441 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 8: I think you know, I think he kept working on 442 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 8: his game. He got better and better and better this year, 443 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 8: and then he got a bunch of opportunities. 444 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 5: He made to most of them. 445 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 7: How about Trey McBride. 446 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 4: So that's two thousand yard receivers for the Cardinals first 447 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 4: time since twenty fifteen. I mean, what sort of confidence 448 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 4: does that give you going forward with those guys? 449 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, there are two big time players, you know what 450 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 8: I mean. Marve will be healthy, he'll be back. Feel 451 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 8: really good about it. Trade. He's just like Mike Man 452 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 8: Warrior shows up every day, consistently makes plays for us. 453 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 8: He's a he's a prime time player, man. 454 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 4: And look, we got a lot of times to talk 455 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 4: about next year. Was there a particular message you wanted 456 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 4: to give the team after the game? 457 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 5: Told them we'll talk tomorrow. 458 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 8: But I did tell them, I said they should look 459 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 8: around and be grateful for everybody in here, you know, 460 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 8: because this room will look a lot different, that's the 461 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 8: nature of the NFL. But I told them I was 462 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 8: grateful for him and I appreciate them because you go 463 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 8: through a year like this with a lot of adversity. 464 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 8: If you don't have good guys, the job's not fun. 465 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 8: And I had fun every day. So that was that 466 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 8: was cool man. 467 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 4: And you haven't shied away from the word change. I 468 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 4: mean that that is going to be part of this offseason, correct. 469 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean when you had when you go through 470 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 8: a year of adversity like this, you know you have 471 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 8: to you have no choice but to learn and grow 472 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 8: and change. 473 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:40,239 Speaker 5: That's that's what it is. 474 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 4: Any other takeaways from this one, you know, the motive, play, 475 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 4: the effort, the intensity was there that that seemed to 476 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 4: be a constant all. 477 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 8: Year that was on point today. You know, I knew 478 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 8: they'd come out and play play, you know, right to 479 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 8: the from from the first snap, from the first whistle 480 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 8: to the last whistle. Ultimately couldn't get it done, but 481 00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 8: I was proud of them how they battled it. 482 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 4: And last question, Jacoby Brissett just a him filling in 483 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 4: all almost you know, last two Thursds of the season. 484 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 4: Then be his willingness to just hang in the pocket 485 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 4: the shots he takes. And then just as leadership, what 486 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 4: can you say about the job Jacoby. 487 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 7: Day and true pro. 488 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 8: I'm you know, I'm so grateful that we have them, 489 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 8: and he came in here and he put it on 490 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 8: the line every week. Man, And that's that's that's all 491 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 8: you can ask. You know, I love him and appreciate. 492 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 7: Him, Coach, We appreciate it all season. Okay, there you go, 493 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 7: Jonathan Gannon. 494 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 3: All right, Paul, and thanks to coach for his time. 495 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 3: Going back to uh before we get out of here 496 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 3: and wrap up, just going back to what we were 497 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 3: talking about prior to Coach, just kind of looking back 498 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: big picture. I think the first thing that the Cardinals 499 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 3: need to do this offseason is when Mantias and Fort 500 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 3: and Jonathan Gannon came in a couple of years ago, 501 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 3: they laid a foundation, they started to build a culture. 502 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 3: Whatever happened this year, injuries being a big part of it, obviously, 503 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 3: things did not go as expected, not even very disappointing. 504 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 3: What are we and what do we need to do 505 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 3: to become what we want to be? Meaning what is 506 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 3: our identity as an organization, as a football team, and 507 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 3: from all the levels of the organization, what do we 508 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 3: need to do to fix that to get back to 509 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 3: who the Cardinals were supposed to be, who they envisioned 510 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 3: they would be in twenty twenty five, that didn't happen. 511 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 3: That's kind of my thought of what the first thing 512 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 3: is is to figure out your identity going forward. 513 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't agree more. And I think the biggest 514 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: thing is to be overly critical. Let's not sugarcoat anything, 515 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,719 Speaker 2: leave no stone unturned when you go into this offseason, 516 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 2: you have to look at everything from top to bottom, 517 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 2: look yourself in the mirror, be overly critical, and from 518 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: there make the right decisions. 519 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 3: Our executive producer is Jim Olmhundro. Associated producer Cody Fincher, 520 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 3: engineers Brian Dubos and Dave Marcus. Technical Director Ali Narini, 521 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 3: Instituti of Coordinator, Matt Lazarus, Vice President of Digital Content, 522 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 3: Creative and Brand as Surf Melendez Stay Tuned. Craig Greeley, 523 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 3: Rob Frederickson. Next with Cardinal Talk Frank Q. 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