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Speaker 1: My father grew up in South Philadelphia, a Catholic Italian household.

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Speaker 1: Pretty sharp guy. He was street smart growing up in

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Speaker 2: Desperate for answers on what might have happened to his sister,

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Speaker 2: John and Tobray set up a meeting with some people

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Speaker 1: Out of respect for my father, they met with me.

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Speaker 2: John said, if somehow the mob was involved, they'd know

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Speaker 1: If something happened in their neighborhoods, they would know about it.

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Speaker 2: It was a surreal moment for John, standing in front

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Speaker 2: of made guys, scary guys, asking for any information in

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Speaker 2: his sister's murder.

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Speaker 1: He said, you know, Johnny, if I knew something, I

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Speaker 1: would tell you. But I don't know anything. She's gone

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Speaker 1: and there's nothing we can do.

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Speaker 2: Gunning and this is there and gone South Street, episode

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Speaker 2: six Streets of Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: Plato Is I say you in my dream, reached out

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Speaker 3: on the dog, for you've been lost to me. I'll

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Speaker 3: never give up, no matter how long.

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Speaker 1: I open my eyes.

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Speaker 3: Define gone.

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Speaker 2: Just a note the views and opinions expressed in this

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Speaker 2: podcast are solely those of the individuals participating. This podcast

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Speaker 2: also contains subject matter which may not be suitable for everyone.

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Speaker 2: Discretion is advised. Danielle Imbo and Richard Petrone vanished in

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Speaker 2: February of two thousand and five. Later that summer, whispers

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Speaker 2: between the victims' families about who was responsible caused them

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Speaker 2: to stop talking to each other. By late two thousand

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Speaker 2: and five, another wave of frustration had set in. Both

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Speaker 2: families were tired of waiting for answers from law enforcement.

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Speaker 2: Danielle's brother John, all.

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Speaker 1: They tell me is we're working on something, and they

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Speaker 1: use these hand gestures like merging into a road. We're

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Speaker 1: working on something and we're leading this down this path

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Speaker 1: and we're just missing one piece. We just need this

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Speaker 1: one piece to connect.

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Speaker 2: You heard how John took matters into his own hands

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Speaker 2: and set up a meeting with members of the Philadelphia Mob.

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Speaker 1: I've met with the shadiest of shady people. I've been

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Speaker 1: in helicopters, I've been in boots. I mean, I've done

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Speaker 1: everything to try to figure it out. How do two

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Speaker 1: adults to pick up truck vanish? You know, I thought

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Speaker 1: about all of this a million times it's got to

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Speaker 1: be more than one person. How do you adduct to adults?

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Speaker 1: How to drive a pickup truck? And then what do

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Speaker 1: What can't be just one person abducting to adults? Are

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Speaker 1: these the two most tight lipped, cleanest professional hit men

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Speaker 1: That's what upsets me. That's somewhere someone a smile thinking

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Speaker 1: they got away with this.

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Speaker 2: It's been a delicate dance for law enforcement. They know

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Speaker 2: the families want to know something anything, but for the

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Speaker 1: I was just adamant for answers, and I was kind

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Speaker 2: Whatever John did, it worked, he said. Back in late

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Speaker 2: them for a meeting, one.

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Speaker 1: Of those whiteboard meetings where that everybody just kind of

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Speaker 2: What John described happened that day sounds like something you'd

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Speaker 1: They put like Joe's name up top, they put Richard's

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Speaker 1: They were all adamant about Joe, adamant, and they're writing

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Speaker 2: John can laugh about it now, but he's still waiting

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Speaker 2: for answers, and so are the patrons. Since this happened

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Speaker 2: for that matter. And that's the thing with this case.

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Speaker 2: Without physical evidence, motive, or practically anything, law enforcement is

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Speaker 2: the last episode, we learned from FBI agent Fudo Rosselli

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Speaker 2: that Danielle and Richard might have been victims of a

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Speaker 4: If in fact it was a targeted act of violence,

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Speaker 4: it was most likely targeted against one person, either Danielle

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Speaker 2: It's a theory that John isn't entirely on board with.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say you wanted to kill Richard. You know

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Speaker 2: Let's rewind back to that night. It happened to be

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Speaker 2: So was it a mere coincidence that something happened to

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Speaker 2: any evidence, DNA or witnesses. All you're left with is

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Speaker 2: we'd on the street. Philly is a city of neighborhoods,

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Speaker 2: stories in each neighborhood matter, because here's another thing about Philly.

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Speaker 2: People stay. Families pass down their row homes generation after generation,

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Speaker 2: going to start with South Philly. Just as I mentioned,

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Speaker 2: you'll find generations of Italian Americans. It's also where famous

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Speaker 2: I will say this about South Philly. People talk a lot.

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Speaker 2: And I found one couple willing to talk who heard

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Speaker 2: all about Danielle and Richard. They were South Philly lifers

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Speaker 5: Then say, Philadelphia my life. I could have rooved at

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Speaker 2: I said, lifers, proud lifers.

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Speaker 5: First we heard that the two families, of course, were

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Speaker 5: he was involved in something illegal.

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Speaker 2: He is Richard.

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Speaker 5: Either he owed money or he had a lot of

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Speaker 5: money on him from some kind of deal. I don't know,

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Speaker 5: but there were rumors that he was involved in something.

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Speaker 2: She felt strongly that whatever happened to Richard and Danielle

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Speaker 5: Normal robbery. They don't take you and your car. So

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Speaker 5: you're leaving a bar, you're walking to your car. What

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Speaker 6: I heard some stories, but they did a hit on

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Speaker 6: him and every.

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Speaker 2: A hit on them, like a murder for hire. The

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Speaker 2: from what the FBI had leaked to the public in

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Speaker 2: two thousand and eight. He didn't know who ordered the killing,

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Speaker 2: but mentioned that there were groups around that time that

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Speaker 2: could have been involved. Then they mentioned what a hit

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Speaker 5: I know, it's somebody to pay for a hit. It

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Speaker 5: makes me sick. Three hundred dollars? Could you imagine? Could

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Speaker 2: That hit was unrelated to Danielle and Richard? But I

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Speaker 2: found that information eye opening. The fact that someone's life

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Speaker 5: I would think, like ten day thousand, it's all been.

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Speaker 2: Was it possible that Richard was involved in something, something

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Speaker 2: head or both of theirs, Because the FBI said Danielle

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Speaker 2: for higher plot, It's entirely possible. Then again, Special Agent

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Speaker 2: Vito Rocelli said the FBI didn't find anything in Richard

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Speaker 2: and Danielle's background. Of course, there's another reason someone orders

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Speaker 2: a hit money. So I asked them how much money

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Speaker 6: If it was in the thousands that were serious, but

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Speaker 6: you're barred five hundred or something like that. There wasn't

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Speaker 6: that serious thing. You know, guys would let you slide.

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Speaker 6: But when your own thousands of dollars and everything, that

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Speaker 6: was serious money, and you got hurt fee then pay up.

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Speaker 2: The conversation didn't end there. The couple had more like

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Speaker 2: what would happen if you did get hurt? They knew

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Speaker 2: where the mob used to get rid of evidence.

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Speaker 6: Down at the Hinds, down at the wetlandsdown Tittcum. That

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Speaker 6: was a normal thumping ground for the mob and everything.

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Speaker 6: They found a lot of them bob guys down there.

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Speaker 2: I had to look this up because I had never

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Speaker 2: heard of this, But the Hines is a twelve hundred

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Speaker 2: acre wildlife refuge hidden in the shadows of Philadelphia International Airport.

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Speaker 2: It's in Tenaham Township, which is not a notable part

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Speaker 2: of the city. And hearing that it was a dumping ground,

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Speaker 2: it kind of tracks. And I have to say the

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Speaker 2: top hit in my Google search was a twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: three story about a bird watcher finding a dead body there.

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Speaker 6: They used to just try the car into the wildlife

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Speaker 6: That's wherever dumping ground was.

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Speaker 2: And there's another way to dispose of a truck.

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Speaker 6: Schredder used to be add one past Young Gavenue. They

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Speaker 2: Paste Young Avenue is also near the Philly Airport. It

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Speaker 2: I had not even thought about this possibility. Richard's truck

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Speaker 6: Don't even recognized it was a car. They were shred

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Speaker 6: They were the one that killed. They were involved in

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Speaker 2: This conversation didn't paint the prettiest of pictures, but it

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Speaker 6: They saw something that they shouldn't have seen. I understand

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Speaker 2: It wasn't just the police who heard and investigated a

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Speaker 7: I'm Dave Schratweiser, a former investigative reporter for Fox twenty

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Speaker 2: Every city is lucky to have that one fearless TV

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Speaker 7: I covered crime, and the streets of Philadelphia has quite

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Speaker 2: Before his recent retirement, Dave reported on breaking news for

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Speaker 2: thirty some years in Philly, and not from behind the

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Speaker 7: I've covered somewhere between three thousand and five thousand homicides

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Speaker 2: Includes Danielle Imbo and Richard Patrone. He said, it's a

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Speaker 7: It kind of leaves you puzzled to the nth degree.

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Speaker 7: There were a lot of unanswered questions. Did they run

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Speaker 7: Was there something like that that might have touched off

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Speaker 2: And that's another reason I wanted to talk with Dave.

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Speaker 2: Up until now, we haven't really discussed the three thousand

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Speaker 7: There were no cameras that caught anything leaving Abilene's. There

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Speaker 2: Most of my conversation with Dave focused on all the

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Speaker 7: Okay, so the first initial theories were it ended up

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Speaker 2: The group Dave is talking about is called Avengers with Purpose.

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Speaker 2: Back in twenty two, they got involved in the investigation

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Speaker 2: and neither has law enforcement. The FBI has never ruled

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Speaker 2: out Danielle and Richard being involved in an accident which

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Speaker 2: put Richard's truck into the river. However, they said it

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Speaker 2: was unlikely. It's also unclear if Danielle and Richard even

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Speaker 4: Considering that no gunshots were reported that night. It wasn't

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Speaker 4: so that would indicate that they were alive when they

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Speaker 2: It's something else to consider. Was someone waiting inside Richard's

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Speaker 2: even made it to Danielle's condo in New Jersey. If

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Speaker 7: So they started pulling video from the Ben Franklin Bridge,

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Speaker 7: over to Jersey because the couple that they had had

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Speaker 7: you know that kind of thing. They pulled all the video,

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Speaker 2: But here's the problem. It's free to drive into Jersey.

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Speaker 7: There was a rumor that the car was taken one

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Speaker 7: But it was a strong rumor for a period of time,

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Speaker 2: Dave Stratwiser said. One such incident happened in January two

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Speaker 2: thousand and five, almost exactly one month before Danielle and

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Speaker 2: Richard vanished. That was when the Hell's Angels motorcycle gang

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Speaker 7: And the Pagans are well known for drug dealing Hill's methamphetamine,

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Speaker 2: That's interesting, the Pagans, that's the same biker group the

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Speaker 2: On the night of January thirteenth, two thousand and five,

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Speaker 7: He's at a gentleman's club in South Philadelphia, a very

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Speaker 2: According to a two thousand and five article in the

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Speaker 2: The shooter was never identified and the shooter's truck was

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Speaker 7: And a rumors surfaces that the truck used to shoot

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Speaker 7: Some people start to theorize, could that have happened to

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Speaker 2: This is now the second time I've heard about a

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Speaker 7: If you spend any time out there on past Junk Avenue,

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Speaker 2: Where there's smoke, there's usually fire. So I asked Veto

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Speaker 4: You have this patch code of pickup truck. A big

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Speaker 7: Start looking at all the chop shops.

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Speaker 4: Philadelphia is notorious for its chop shop operations, and there

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Speaker 2: Just like we heard earlier, Veto explained how a vehicle

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Speaker 4: You're grabbing it on the road and you got a

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Speaker 2: So let's break this down. We heard about this junk

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Speaker 4: Then you start peeling the onion a little bit and

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Speaker 2: Vito's talking about Richard's ex girlfriend Julie, who used to

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Speaker 2: Rosselli provided me with a lot of new information, new

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Speaker 2: our search for answers. Getting back in touch with Richard's

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Speaker 4: This was an organized effort, for example, a murder for

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Speaker 4: somebody with the capability, with the underground connections, or just

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Speaker 4: to know how to make a truck and a couple

440
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Speaker 4: of bodies disappear, and the FBI that's kind of our

441
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Speaker 4: bread and butter, is we got our fingers into the

442
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Speaker 4: underbelly of Philadelphia and South Jersey, meaning you have informance

443
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Speaker 4: in the different criminal organizations that would be very capable

444
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Speaker 4: of disappearing a truck in a couple of bodies.

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Speaker 2: Earlier, Vito said, how back in two thousand and five,

446
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Speaker 2: Philly had one industrial crusher that turns cars into little cubes.

447
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Speaker 2: It was something I felt like I needed to see

448
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Speaker 2: for myself, so I started calling around to local junkyards

449
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Speaker 2: in Philly. Unsurprisingly, no one wanted to take my call.

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Speaker 2: I only found one person who was willing to talk

451
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Speaker 2: with me, a woman who goes by the name Junkyard Barbie.

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Speaker 2: She and her brother run pick Apart Junkyard then an

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Speaker 2: hour out of Philly in Morrisville, Pennsylvania. On a warm

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Speaker 2: spring day in twenty twenty four, my colleague Ben and

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Speaker 2: I went there to see firsthand how crushing a car works.

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Speaker 8: So I heard it was a pickop, so we're gonna

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Speaker 8: say that there's the pickop got here.

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Speaker 2: Barbie didn't have a Dodge Dakota at her yard, but

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Speaker 2: she did have a Ford F one fifty, which is

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Speaker 2: comparable in size and weight. Before crushing the F one fifty,

461
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: her brother explained that they removed all the fluids from

462
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Speaker 2: the vehicle so the thing didn't explode on us, and

463
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Speaker 2: then he did what was known as a soft crush,

464
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Speaker 2: where he used an excavator to flatten the truck. Yeow,

465
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Speaker 2: he like raises the arm matches it down. My god,

466
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Speaker 2: the whole soft crush process took less than a minute.

467
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Speaker 2: Up until now, I've heard about this process, but seeing

468
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Speaker 2: it in person that made everything so real, really quick,

469
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Speaker 2: really ansense. It's like completely flattened within seconds, completely flattened,

470
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Speaker 2: eye opening. Honestly, just an emotional experience that I didn't anticipate.

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Speaker 2: It was emotional because of how violent. It was, emotional

472
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Speaker 2: because of how violating. It was emotional because for the

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Speaker 2: first time I had the thought, what if they were

474
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Speaker 2: still in the vehicle. All I can say is it

475
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Speaker 2: was devastating to watch. When Ben and I got back

476
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Speaker 2: from the junk yard, we started to piece together some

477
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Speaker 2: of the new information we learned. So if Philly only

478
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Speaker 2: had one place with an industrial car crusher back in

479
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Speaker 2: two thousand and five, that feels like a logical place

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Speaker 2: to look.

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Speaker 9: Don't you think, Yeah, it sounds like that was at

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Speaker 9: a junk yard called Gianna's and I did a quick

483
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Speaker 9: search for Gianna's and yeah, down in and around the

484
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Speaker 9: airport is Gianna Salvage doesn't look like it exists anymore.

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Speaker 9: Did you find a location for that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like it had two addresses, one on

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Speaker 2: pat Chunk Ab and then the other Onessington Ab. I'm

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00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 2: seeing sixty eight hundred Essington Avenue.

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Speaker 9: Okay, so that's Gianna's sixty eight hundred Essington.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So not only that, but there's a strip club at

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Speaker 2: sixty seven ninety eight Essington Avenue address that's called Oasis

493
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Speaker 2: Gentlemen's Club.

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Speaker 9: That's literally what Veto told us is that it was

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Speaker 9: co located with the strip club. So I think that

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Speaker 9: kind of narrows down that this location on Essington Avenue.

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Speaker 9: And I'm actually looking at a map right now. It's

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Speaker 9: interesting that it has a Pastyunk Avenue and an Essington

499
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Speaker 9: Avenue because you hit an intersection and it goes from

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Speaker 9: pass Younk to Essington. I mean, this is the spot,

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Speaker 9: right if we're starting to connect some of these stories

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Speaker 9: we heard from Dave and Veto, if you go back

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Speaker 9: to that hit on the Hell's Angels by the Pagans

504
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 9: that car that they used in the by shooting turns

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Speaker 9: off of seventy six on to Passion Gavinue and there's

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Speaker 9: only one industrial treader whatever we're calling this thing. Mm hmm,

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Speaker 9: it's logical to track that it's headed to Gianna Salvage.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think what's standing out for me comes from the

510
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Speaker 2: conversation with Dave is that the car used in the

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Speaker 2: drive by shooting disappeared, just like Richard's truck disappeared.

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Speaker 9: And the fact that Julie was a dancer at that club.

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Speaker 9: I mean, we need to ask Julie. Was she a

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Speaker 9: dancer at Oasis?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to hear from Julie. Maybe she knows something.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, we talked to the please the FBI several times.

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Speaker 2: Julie explained she had conversations with investigators about this very

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Speaker 2: topic back in two thousand and five.

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Speaker 8: There was some questions that were asked to me that

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Speaker 8: I filmed were weird. Yeah, where I used to work?

521
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 8: Can you know if I knew certain people? And questions

522
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Speaker 8: about bikers and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: Julie was able to confirm she did work at club Oasis,

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Speaker 2: and that the line of questioning was centered around the

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Speaker 2: time she spent working at that strip club.

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Speaker 8: They asked me if I knew the owner of a

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Speaker 8: club that I used to work at. He used to

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Speaker 8: have a salvage yard.

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Speaker 2: I paged through business records that I was able to

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Speaker 2: find on Club Oasis and Gianna Salvage. According to filings

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Speaker 2: with the Secretary of State's office, both businesses were owned

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Speaker 2: and operated by a wealthy, young Philadelphia businessman named Rob

533
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Speaker 2: Laflor Junior. That name didn't ring any bells for Julie.

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Speaker 8: I didn't know. I didn't know these people, you know

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Speaker 8: what I mean, So I couldn't really give them any information.

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Speaker 2: But that was all Julie could tell me about Rob Lafleor.

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00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: So my team and I started looking into him. Along

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Speaker 2: with Club Oasis, I learned Rob also owned another strip

539
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: club called Christine's Cabaret, which was part steakhouse, part strip club.

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Speaker 2: But as I learned from Dave Stratweiser, Rob's fortune didn't

541
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Speaker 2: come from his strip steak but rather his industrial crusher.

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Speaker 7: The guy who owned the junkyard and owned that piece

543
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 7: of equipment ended up selling that patent for that crusher

544
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 7: shredder for millions of dollars. I believe he kept one,

545
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 7: but the patent on how to build that and make

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00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 7: that happen. This guy been in the junkyard business for

547
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 7: years and came up with this. So instead of a

548
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 7: big block of a crush car, you have a shredded,

549
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 7: smaller block crush car.

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Speaker 2: All of that money afforded Rob one of the largest

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Speaker 2: homes in Pennsylvania. According to Kurbed Philadelphia, that home had

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00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 2: ten bedrooms, fourteen bathrooms, and a driveway that stretched two

553
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Speaker 2: city blocks.

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Speaker 7: I think it was twenty five thousand square feet, had

555
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 7: a football field, in a basketball corps, in a theater.

556
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: He even owned the mansion next door.

557
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Speaker 7: There was some reports that Brad Pitt was going to

558
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 7: rent that house from him for a time while he

559
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Speaker 7: was in Philadelphia, potentially making a movie.

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Speaker 2: In twenty eleven, Rob told the Philadelphia Inquirer that Brad

561
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Speaker 2: Pitt and Angelina Jolie planned to stay at his house

562
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: while filming the movie World War Ze. Although the movie

563
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 2: was set in Philadelphia. They ended up filming elsewhere, but

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Speaker 2: Rob Laflor told the Inquirer that Brad and Angelina visit

565
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: him once a year. He said his friendship with Brad

566
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Speaker 2: dates back to his teen years when the two met

567
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Speaker 2: on the set of a TV commercial. That aside, It's

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Speaker 2: also important to note that Rob laflor was never named

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Speaker 2: a suspect in the disappearance of Danielle and Richard.

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Speaker 7: Nobody's ever been accused of that, nobody's been charged with that.

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Speaker 7: It's never been in any police report I've seen or

572
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 7: anything like that. But that was a very, very hot

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Speaker 7: rumor at the time.

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Speaker 2: But according to FBI agent Vido Rosselli, Rob laflora got

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Speaker 2: himself into trouble for something else.

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Speaker 4: He was a criminal subject of a separate FBI investigation

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Speaker 4: that had to deal with his strip joint, Club Oasis.

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Speaker 2: According to a twenty eleven Philadelphia Daily News article, the

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Speaker 2: FBI was looking into Rob in an alleged kickback scheme

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Speaker 2: that involved the Philadelphia Police Department and the Philadelphia Department

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Speaker 2: of Licenses and Inspections. And there was more, a lot more.

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Speaker 2: In two thousand and nine, Rob was charged with attempted

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Speaker 2: murder after a fight with a patron in the parking

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Speaker 2: lot of Club Oasis. All of this was a shock

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Speaker 2: to Richard's ex girlfriend, Julie.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I'm thinking I worked at a place and

587
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 8: maybe this guy had something to do with this. Like

588
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Speaker 8: this is insane.

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Speaker 2: But Julie said her interactions with law enforcement wasn't just

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Speaker 2: to answer their questions. She said she also provided them

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Speaker 2: with a lead.

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Speaker 8: I had a friend who was in prison, and when

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00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 8: he had gotten out, he had told me that he

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Speaker 8: was in prison with somebody that was claiming to have

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Speaker 8: did something to Richard and Danielle. So I don't know

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Speaker 8: if that's true, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, Julie said she passed that information onto the FBI.

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Speaker 8: I'm not sure if I called Vito or I called

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Speaker 8: the hotline and made his thing saying there was somebody

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Speaker 8: in prison that had said that had admitted to doing

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Speaker 8: something to rich and Danielle. And they said the guy

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Speaker 8: apparently killed himself committed suicide.

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Speaker 2: Julie said the guy who took his own life was

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Speaker 2: the one who claimed to be responsible for doing something

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Speaker 2: to Danielle and Richard.

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Speaker 8: No, I don't remember the name of the guy. I

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00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 8: don't even know or my friend as I mean, he

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Speaker 8: could be dead for all I know. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 8: it was so long ago.

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Speaker 2: I started researching through old newspaper articles in search of

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Speaker 2: this guy's name, and very quickly I found a twenty

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Speaker 2: ten article in the Philadelphia Daily News. It said a

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Speaker 2: man named Robert Carey was the mastermind behind a huge

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Speaker 2: drug operation in which he allegedly forged tens of thousands

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00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: of oxyconton prescriptions, and that Carrie was believed to be

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00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: the hit man hired to get rid of Danielle and Richard.

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Speaker 2: The article even cited a source in law enforcement that

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Speaker 2: said authorities eyed Carrie but never declared him a suspect.

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Speaker 2: And here's what's even more interesting. According to Vito, Robert

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Speaker 2: Carey was close with a guy who owned the junk

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Speaker 2: yard and strip clubs, Rob Lafleur.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to call him best buddies, but they

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Speaker 4: were associates, close associates. Maybe.

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Speaker 2: Robert Carey was arrested in April of twenty ten. A

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Speaker 2: day later, he was found dead in his jail cell.

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Speaker 2: I think that Robert Carey was the hit man.

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Speaker 7: There were reports that he told an inmate in prison

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Speaker 7: that he was involved in I and Boone for Trunk case.

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Speaker 7: And there were rumors that before he died, he penned

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Speaker 7: some type of note in which he talked about this case.

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Speaker 2: The fact that we don't know what's in that suicide

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Speaker 2: note says more than any.

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Speaker 1: Thanks.

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