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Speaker 1: Soul One. That's pretty powerful, that's pretty problem, that's pretty powerful.

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Speaker 1: This young man's got it going on. He is on

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Speaker 1: When from Within. Again. He's on the show today to

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Speaker 1: to help readers identify how best to handle the most difficult, challenging,

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Speaker 1: inner struggle to overcome the worst versions of ourselves. Jacob

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Speaker 1: Within helps It helps us now us conquer our inner

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Speaker 1: that earlier, shame and guilt, he praised. You will find

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Speaker 1: this powerfully biblical self help. God push you towards victory

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Speaker 1: over your inner struggles. Please welcome to money making conversations.

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Speaker 1: Some behind I'm saw on a long time, ran into

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Speaker 1: this day, you know, I'm I'm thinking about it in

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Speaker 1: different ways, like Okay, how do I make this better?

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Speaker 1: How to reach people in their new ways? And so

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Speaker 1: if the process is a journey. You just gotta be

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Speaker 1: open to it, you know. Yes, I first of all,

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Speaker 1: I'm willing to admit my flaws because I tell when

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Speaker 1: you come on this show, I don't want anybody that

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Speaker 1: they can google me. They see success, their flaws tied

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Speaker 1: to that success, their mistakes tied to that success. But

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Speaker 1: also tell people, just because I was incapable of understanding

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Speaker 1: the process, then look at it, I'm gonna sitcom writer.

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Speaker 1: So obviously I learned how to write something. I learned

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Speaker 1: how to put words together from a comedic standpoint, from

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Speaker 1: a storytelling standpoint. So I always tell people that in

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Speaker 1: African American, so you know, so so many leaps that

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Speaker 1: that people allowed setbacks. So people tell them you can't

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Speaker 1: do this, And I look at your life. Your life

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Speaker 1: is tied to people saying what you can't do, and

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Speaker 1: then there's a serious of people that tell you what

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Speaker 1: you can do. I talk to us about I got well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, I think you know, one

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Speaker 1: of the beautiful things about being black, which is what

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Speaker 1: to see that we're exactly theramatic. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: so I always say to people like we should honor.

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Speaker 1: Like my my mom is a gech from South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: When I've grown up, Sir, I was I was told

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Speaker 1: that people spoke a certain kind of way that wasn't

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Speaker 1: correct realized now my mama seeks beautiful poetry and just

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Speaker 1: like you know, so the people of Houston, of Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: wherever we're from, is beautiful poetry. And if we if

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Speaker 1: we understand the genius that we have inside of us,

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Speaker 1: and that you know, if we want to get into entertainment,

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Speaker 1: we want to get into this world, all we need

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Speaker 1: to do is like booking. T. Washington said, put your

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Speaker 1: buckets right down there and watch the magic come up

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Speaker 1: in the sitcoms, in the books, in the dry whatever

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Speaker 1: you want to create in the music. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. And that's what I think about. And so

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Speaker 1: you know, for me, it's it's most of the work

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Speaker 1: that I do just comes from our our people, our communities,

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Speaker 1: our history, you know, current events and things like that.

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Speaker 1: And and as you know, it's endless. We got so

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Speaker 1: many stories. Well you know the thing about it is

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Speaker 1: that like I was working at IBM, and then when

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Speaker 1: reason I went in entertainment in this world because I

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Speaker 1: didn't see. I didn't see, I didn't see the end.

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Speaker 1: You know, I just felt I could just I can

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Speaker 1: just create, I can just I can just grow as

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Speaker 1: an individual. And then the writing aspect of it has

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Speaker 1: made me a king. You know, you can't stop me.

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Speaker 1: You can't stop me from telling my story. You can't

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Speaker 1: telling me stop me from writing my story. You can't

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Speaker 1: stop me from promoting my story. And so that's why

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Speaker 1: people need to understand the power of education. That's how

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Speaker 1: I respect you so much. One of my good friends

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Speaker 1: with Stephen a Smith, and he's a word smith verbally

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Speaker 1: and and with a pen. And I always I said,

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Speaker 1: that's the genius of you. The genius of you, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: is that you do it as well. You're very articulate,

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Speaker 1: you know you, you you brace your tones and understand

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Speaker 1: that you you have a world perspective. And the reason

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Speaker 1: I say that is that the fact that you know Tupactic,

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Speaker 1: you just through that. I like that wasn't not Tupac Shakoo.

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Speaker 1: I consider the greatest rapper, the storyteller, rapper of all time,

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Speaker 1: now you can look at me that people can look

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Speaker 1: at me. But no, no, no, no, no, no, I

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Speaker 1: don't care what you This guy went political, this guy

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Speaker 1: went party, This guy was sexy, this guy was below

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Speaker 1: he had drama. He Uh, Dear Mama is the is

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Speaker 1: the one of the all time great Mother's Day songs.

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Speaker 1: And Brenda had a Got a Baby is one of

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Speaker 1: the most incredible true to life stories. Uh, Holly, you

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Speaker 1: wanted one of the greatest party songs of all time.

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Speaker 1: Don't don't talk to me? So I couldn't look at that.

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Speaker 1: When that movie came out, I could look at that

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Speaker 1: movie can They weren't gonna do it justice. See, but

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Speaker 1: your book. I'm waiting on your book because I know

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Speaker 1: you're gonna and we're gonna come on this show when

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Speaker 1: that book come out. You gotta tell me because we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do it. We're gonna do a half hour because

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Speaker 1: I'm a fan. See I was. I was looking back

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Speaker 1: at this. I met Tupac and the Kinko's the Kinks,

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Speaker 1: was arguing with the man because he was trying to

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Speaker 1: do he was trying to do his his album cover

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Speaker 1: or CD cover in the store, and then he thought

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Speaker 1: the man was charging him too much. He said, man,

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Speaker 1: I can do that myself. He's I'm not gonna pay

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Speaker 1: that kind of money. And when I meet people like

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Speaker 1: that and I see him later on and they have

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Speaker 1: a tragic any I always go, why did I speak?

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Speaker 1: Because I always plead that man, God's giving an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to change people's direction. And he's one of those people.

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Speaker 1: I wish I had said hello too, and it wasn't

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Speaker 1: like I was in awe. I just didn't talk. And

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Speaker 1: so that's why I created the show. Kevin, I'm gonna talk, man,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna change people's lives until I die. This

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Speaker 1: Come on out there, I got give it up on that.

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Speaker 1: Come on out. I got the memos. Look at what

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Speaker 1: how you doing good? Good to see you. Well, thank you,

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Speaker 1: thanks for doing the show because I know you. First

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Speaker 1: of all, I know you travel. Yeah, okay, so I

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Speaker 1: means you have to put me in your schedule to

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Speaker 1: do this, but you know you you get carte blanche.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you appreciate it. Now we we're gonna

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Speaker 1: start a love personal First on the side, my daughter Christiana,

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Speaker 1: now she's enrolling in the University of Houston. Okay, she's

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Speaker 1: uh going to be studying mechanical engineering. This fault. Now

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Speaker 1: you have somebody named Taylor. Yes, and you'll graduate of

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Speaker 1: Texas Universe. Yes, I am. Now what's cool is she

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Speaker 1: gonna go to She is going to go to the

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Speaker 1: other side of uh my college career. She's going to Howard.

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Speaker 1: She's going to Howard. Yeah. She's excited about it, and

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about it too. You know, I I raised

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Speaker 1: her to have her own way of thinking, her own

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Speaker 1: way of doing things. It's all based on you know,

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Speaker 1: the knowledge of God and how God empowers you to

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Speaker 1: make great decisions and be a great person. And uh,

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to be happy, just like you, you

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Speaker 1: know parents, that's parents. We want our kids to just

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Speaker 1: be happy with whatever God empowers them to do. And

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Speaker 1: it's amazing because you know, first of all, you're nervous

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Speaker 1: because if you, if you have a child, you cook

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Speaker 1: your TV, kids get snatched. You know, it's just crazy

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Speaker 1: how you have to just pull yourself back and allow

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Speaker 1: your child to grow, because you can just wrap your

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Speaker 1: arms around them and just suffocate them. And guess what

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Speaker 1: they out there seeing it anywhere on YouTube and watching

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Speaker 1: their phones, so they educate themselves, maybe the wrong way

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Speaker 1: if you don't let them grow. So when she made

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Speaker 1: Now we're right through your mind. Nothing her god mother

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Speaker 1: is there, aunts and uncles, you know, support, I know

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Speaker 1: And of course you know I have to buy a

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Speaker 1: so I'll be every now and then again. I had

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Speaker 1: four amazing people, my father and my father and my

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Speaker 1: grandfather grandmother who who really encouraged us all to be

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Speaker 1: ourselves because I'm the oldest of six kids. So they

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Speaker 1: encouraged us to be ourselves so much so that we

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Speaker 1: all went into different directions. You know. And then then,

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Speaker 1: now would you being in entertainment, but then you Texas

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Speaker 1: othern you studied with radio communication, radio TV journalism, journalism.

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Speaker 1: Now weren't brought you into Okay, Like I gotta ask you,

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Speaker 1: what just how did you get discovered in the music? John? Well, uh, funny.

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Speaker 1: I was about thirteen years old when I joined the

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Speaker 1: Southeast Inspirational Choir. Now we were already well they were

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Speaker 1: already a touring and recording choir before I even got there.

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Speaker 1: And uh so by the age of fifteen, I was

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Speaker 1: leading songs on recordings. By seventeen, I had my first

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Speaker 1: Billboard hit, my Liberty with the choir. Yeah you know,

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Speaker 1: yeah yeah, um And and you know, I thought that

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Speaker 1: I was just going to stay with the choir until

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Speaker 1: I got my reporting job after college. You know, do

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Speaker 1: all these great things anything other than a great opportunity,

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Speaker 1: but just a great opportunity. And then even after I

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Speaker 1: left the choir and started doing solo projects with Thomas Whitfield,

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Speaker 1: I was teaching school because you know, the Channel eleventh

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Speaker 1: you know how corporate can happen, and so it went away. Listen,

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Speaker 1: it was a total blessing because now I'm back in it,

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Speaker 1: and you know, you understand the ups and downs of

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Speaker 1: of everything. You know, life is like that, so you

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Speaker 1: learn how to adjust. That's why I love golf. So

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Speaker 1: it's a game of correction. Absolutely absolutely. And uh so

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Speaker 1: when I did the thing with Tom of Twitfield, I

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Speaker 1: just thought i would teach Monday through Friday, get on

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Speaker 1: morning to teach again, and I'd have two incomes. Did

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Speaker 1: you tell me I'm all about the remote income? This

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Speaker 1: we go talk about the small business? Yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: so you know, and that's how that happened. And it

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Speaker 1: all happened. You know, God's timing is amazing, it really is.

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Speaker 1: Interest that reason I really wanted you on the show

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Speaker 1: was because of your you know, you're true entertainment. Yes,

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Speaker 1: first of all, this show is based in Houston, but

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Speaker 1: You know, I go to Cracker Barrel, you know, I

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Speaker 1: amount of money. You're supposed to stop going to places

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Speaker 1: What you're doing is just like just like you when

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Speaker 1: I when I look at what you're doing and I

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Speaker 1: look at your career, you know, the whole radio side.

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Speaker 1: Talk to us about the radio and high important that

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Speaker 1: it in the future. The radio Thank you, is was

657
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Speaker 1: an answer to the prayer, and it is an answer

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Speaker 1: to the prayer that uh, you know, as a single

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Speaker 1: mom at the time, I was like, man, I do

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Speaker 1: not want to let my life move so fast that

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Speaker 1: I am not in the moment. But Taylor as she

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Speaker 1: has these epiphanies and these things that happened in her life.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I was there when she was cheering for

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Speaker 1: running track. I was there and that was important to me.

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Speaker 1: And so for me, I asked, God, Okay, this travel

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Speaker 1: Monday through Sunday. It can't work, and I'd be a

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Speaker 1: successful parent because parenting is very important to me. As

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Speaker 1: a matter of fact, anyone who knows me knows that

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Speaker 1: parenting for me is my number one. I am a

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Speaker 1: mother first, I am I am. I'm a mother first,

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Speaker 1: and I enjoyed my child, you know. And so that

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Speaker 1: was the prayer. Lord, give me something that I can

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Speaker 1: be home at least from Monday to Thursday, so that

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Speaker 1: she knows that mom will always be home Monday through

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Speaker 1: Thursday unless she and I have a talk and I'd say,

677
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Speaker 1: you know, hey, I gotta leave on Wednesday or whatever. Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, Lord. But what happened was, Um,

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Speaker 1: after praying that prayer, less than a week, our friend,

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Speaker 1: attorney Ricky Anderson called and said, Hey, would you like

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Speaker 1: to go into business with Radio one? And I'm like,

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Speaker 1: at first, Lord, and I'm like, of course, of course,

683
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Speaker 1: because you know, it answered everything. I would be home

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Speaker 1: Monday through Friday. I could fly away and do everything

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Speaker 1: that I needed to do and um and still be

686
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Speaker 1: that doting mom you know, looking at her child blossoms

687
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Speaker 1: Radio One. It was like, because I was Steve Harvey

688
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Speaker 1: launched him New York City and Rickey kay and Ricky said,

689
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Speaker 1: who else do you think it'd be a star in radio?

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Speaker 1: And she doesn't even notice I went and he said, why,

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Speaker 1: she just has it. I don't know if you, if

692
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Speaker 1: you ever get a chance, listen to our morning show

693
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Speaker 1: because of the fact that it's a it's a storytelling

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Speaker 1: you about inspiring you. Just stop being regular. Step is

695
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Speaker 1: to you, step out of your box and I will

696
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Speaker 1: tell you something on radio. And I have to say

697
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Speaker 1: this because I've had a very good life. I produced Monique,

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Speaker 1: she wanna produced Jamie Fox. He's gonna oscar you know,

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Speaker 1: Robert Townsend Gabrielle Union, Kim Whitley, Steve Harvey. Of course

700
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Speaker 1: your skills on the radio. Only a person i've seen

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Speaker 1: it comes close to what you do. Only because he's funny,

702
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Speaker 1: Steve Hark. That's how talented. You thank something much. That's

703
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Speaker 1: huge because he's funny, you know. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it will stop. Steve Harvey. Oh my god. You know,

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Speaker 1: but what you do and and and it's kind of

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Speaker 1: crazy because I'm a type of person is that See

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Speaker 1: I believe in somebody and I don't even have to

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Speaker 1: I just know their spirit right, and I know I

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Speaker 1: can I can just break you down and say this

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Speaker 1: is what you're gonna do. And watching you, it wasn't

711
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Speaker 1: until I heard you on the radio that I became

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Speaker 1: a bigger Oh my god. I just knew she was gifted.

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Speaker 1: But she she's telling a lot some stuff that I'm

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Speaker 1: know shoot that engage because that all they see is glamour.

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Speaker 1: They see an amazing vocalists. And the thing that I

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Speaker 1: really wanted you on the show was to talk about

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Speaker 1: they convicted Well, first of all, it starts again with

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Speaker 1: You know, I grew up with it. You know, was

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Speaker 1: I can't do that because I'm responsible for everybody that

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Speaker 1: and ear his sociology degree from Columbia University. That's in

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Speaker 1: A Tract Scholarship. I believe at the University of Connecticut.

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Speaker 1: He can find you can find him starring on Foxes

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Speaker 1: ch parents marcel Us Wildly. Man, that's love right there

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Speaker 1: to eulogize. I take it, brother, Well, well, I obviould

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Speaker 1: tell you some man Um. First of all, this you

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Speaker 1: know your sociology degree. My mind was the sociology we

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Speaker 1: always got that. Let's let's let's talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: about that because I feel that because you've got a

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Speaker 1: degree in sociology, which is a plays a part in

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Speaker 1: your book, that that that really allowed you to tap

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Speaker 1: you how you the person on the day. How is

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Speaker 1: important to getting that degree in sociology has been to

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Speaker 1: you for you, Yes, it's been critical because it's it's

841
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Speaker 1: a degree that gives you a universal understanding of people

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Speaker 1: and influences us as as individuals. Um. You really learn

844
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845
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Speaker 1: there are more similarities than differences and everyone so I'm

846
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Speaker 1: able to find those commonalities and try to bring like

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Speaker 1: minds together even though we may have different experiences. So

848
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Speaker 1: the sociology background really points out those elements in our

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Speaker 1: why do they have certain articles here and certain articles there?

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Speaker 1: Every single facet of life someone that has studied that

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Speaker 1: behavior to try and have the most impact, the maximum impact.

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Speaker 1: And I'm able to know some of those things. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's really amazing. Now, your book, that's why you

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Speaker 1: calling me. You know, I know we gotta love for

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Speaker 1: each other, but you call about this book. We gotta

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Speaker 1: sell some books. That's why I never shut up The Life,

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Speaker 1: Opinions and Unexpected Adventures of an NFL Outlet, My man,

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Speaker 1: why did you write this book? I wrote this book

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Speaker 1: to inspire everyone, no matter what adversity they faced, no

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Speaker 1: matter what age group, what circumstances you come from. Uh

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Speaker 1: and simple. I'm a guy from Compton who whose mother

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Speaker 1: and father wanted a better life for me, and they

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Speaker 1: scraped together their pinions and took us from Compton to

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Speaker 1: South Central. And that may now say it seemed like

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Speaker 1: a huge leap to people, but you know, in our reality,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy. My grandmother started this mindset. She moved from

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Speaker 1: Watts in the sixties to Compton with the same mindset.

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Speaker 1: She wanted a better life for her family. And my

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00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: my story is just the fork in the roll kid

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Speaker 1: who decided to use his talents to plant and plan

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Speaker 1: away out of the neighborhood, to give himself and his

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Speaker 1: family a chance to live a better life and better

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00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 1: experiences and circumstances. So I became very responsible for my talents.

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Speaker 1: I didn't waste them, I didn't take them for granted.

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00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: I try to maximize them and allow them to give

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Speaker 1: me an opportunity to make it to to realize my dreams.

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Speaker 1: And the reason I wrote the book is just simply

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Speaker 1: I'm a kid who figured this out, made sure he

882
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Speaker 1: understood his identity, what his role was in the family,

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Speaker 1: and took full advantage of it. And I want to

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Speaker 1: empower everyone in their circumstances, no matter how dire that

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Speaker 1: those circumstances may look, that you can become anything you

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00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: want and I know it sounds cliche, but trust me, man,

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00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: I am a walking, living existence of that same cliche.

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Speaker 1: And I want to inspire others. Well you do that

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00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: for me, because it's really funny when I read the book,

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Speaker 1: Well you have me at that opening. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: funds day. They sent me a link to get the

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Speaker 1: book for free, right, and so I couldn't figure it out.

893
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Speaker 1: And I read the opening where you were sitting in

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Speaker 1: your house waiting to be called, and then then I

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Speaker 1: clicked a little part and read sample, and it just

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00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: took me to that point that was hold on, hold on,

897
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: hold hold on, and I bought the book. I went

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Speaker 1: on and bought the book because first, first of all,

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Speaker 1: you're my boy. Secondly, you had me in the beginning,

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Speaker 1: so I had to read this book now. And so

901
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: so the things that this is the thing about it,

902
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Speaker 1: it was very selling because I come from the hood.

903
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: I grew up in Hereford, and just like your parents,

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Speaker 1: they moved me to Northeast. And somebody said that wasn't

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Speaker 1: much of an upgrade, but they thought they wanted to

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Speaker 1: give me a better opportunity to succeed. But things that

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00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: the things that I stood out for me was that

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00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: you said, athletes took your athletics took you out. But

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Speaker 1: you're a very smart guy. Let's not unders say, oh

910
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Speaker 1: your intellect, your intelligence, your your ability to get grades

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Speaker 1: under in the circumstance. And that's what I think that

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Speaker 1: on our last call that we talked about, is that

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Speaker 1: so many times standing in the hood, growing up in

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Speaker 1: the hood, people only see one type of person. And

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Speaker 1: we know there are so many diamonds in the hood

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Speaker 1: that can sometimes be you know, be damaged because of

917
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Speaker 1: the fact they're not giving the proper opportunity to see.

918
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Speaker 1: Sports gave you your opportunity and you got out and uh,

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Speaker 1: and then you own this radio show talking about your

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Speaker 1: life ten years in NFL. You know, beautiful daughter who's

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Speaker 1: attending a tract scholarship at the University of Connecticut, a

922
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Speaker 1: wife who's a nurse anesthesiastic and it's theseus right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, man, I was working with him, and I

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Speaker 1: was working with him, man. But but you know, you

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Speaker 1: don't even know that if you read the book, don't

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Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. You know that if you read

927
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Speaker 1: the book, you gotta read the book. But here's the

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Speaker 1: funny part. But in the beginning in the early parts

929
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Speaker 1: of the book, because I'm not gonna tell everybody book,

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Speaker 1: but there's certain things that you have to know about

931
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Speaker 1: this young man and in his journey. And it was

932
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Speaker 1: like when I was his sister. There used to they

933
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Speaker 1: used to come walk through school. They get beat up

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Speaker 1: every day from the fact they got beat up for

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Speaker 1: four straight weeks, okay. And in my when I was

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Speaker 1: growing up in the hood, it was this guy. This

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Speaker 1: guy would pass me down on the corner like I

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Speaker 1: like he like I was like he was the police

939
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Speaker 1: every day, our dread walking. I mean, see, at least

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Speaker 1: marcelis just telling his sister to go another way. She

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Speaker 1: wouldn't go another way. We're gonna walk down the street. See,

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Speaker 1: I tried to go on the way. He found me.

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Speaker 1: He found me every time. So I found that so

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Speaker 1: relatable to to that. That's how the hood is. The

945
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Speaker 1: hood is is that either stand up and deal with

946
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Speaker 1: it or runaway and become a victim of it. And

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Speaker 1: that's and you never became a victim of it. And

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Speaker 1: that's why I really appreciate at the beginning of the book,

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Speaker 1: and tell me about that there, brother, let me go

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Speaker 1: back to the beginning point. Uh yeah, my talente. When

951
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 1: I say talente, I mean to plural one and two.

952
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: My talents were academics and my talents were athletics. So

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Speaker 1: I was a very good football player, damn good, super

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Speaker 1: fast as a kid, and I was super smart, um smart,

955
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Speaker 1: because I not so much. I was born a genius.

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Speaker 1: But I was a kid in the front of the

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Speaker 1: class raising his hand asking why I was a curious kid.

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Speaker 1: So I coupled my two talents, which was my academics

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Speaker 1: and athletics, and I decided to play the game of

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00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: life in a short and in a long game. My

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Speaker 1: short game was gonna play football. That was gonna be

962
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Speaker 1: my means to an end. A lot of people in

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00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: the hood look at sports and entertainment as the end game,

964
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, it's a means to an end. Um.

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Speaker 1: So I used football to get us immediately out of

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Speaker 1: the hood, to get me scholarship opportunities, to get me

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Speaker 1: the millions of dollars initially to help my family and

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Speaker 1: start generational wealth. Excuse me. That was that was football,

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00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: But the long game was Columbia. The long game was

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00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: my Ivy League education. A long game was opening up doors,

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Speaker 1: having people respect my intelligence, to presume my intelligence before

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Speaker 1: they even meet me, based off a degree, based off

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Speaker 1: ten years and now I'm in my twelfth year of broadcasting. Marcellis,

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