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Speaker 1: Hello Internet, and welcome to Season to sixty one, episode

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Speaker 1: five of the Dailies. Like Guy said, it's a production

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Speaker 1: of My Heart Radio. This is also that second rate

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Speaker 1: podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness.

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Speaker 1: It's Friday, November four two, which just letting you know

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Speaker 1: it's a National Candy Day, which seems like a missed

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Speaker 1: opportunity because it would be like Halloween anyway, and National

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Speaker 1: Jersey Friday. I don't know what that means. I hope

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Speaker 1: that's something that. Oh it means if you, hey, look,

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Speaker 1: if you'd like to rock a jersey like I do. Look,

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Speaker 1: I got many jersey back here. You know that already.

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Speaker 1: I guess rock a sports jersey. I'm Miles Gray. A

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Speaker 1: k A excuse me. I have to have to warm

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Speaker 1: myself up for this, a K. I can't just pop

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Speaker 1: into it. Here we go. You got a lot of guns,

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Speaker 1: got a lot of sense. Ceo me. I gotta roll

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Speaker 1: gotta burn one down. Faded. Okay. Shout out to Melisson

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Speaker 1: on the scored who had us with that? Beyonce heated,

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Speaker 1: uh thematic a k A, yes, you're right, I did

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Speaker 1: feel that got a burn one down faded. It's a

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Speaker 1: new remix and I am thrilled to be joined by

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Speaker 1: my guest co host today. Uh. You know this is

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Speaker 1: somebody who's always on the scene because they helped make

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Speaker 1: this show. It's none other than super producer Bega Rambo's Ramo,

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Speaker 1: Hello Helloa. That was beautiful, Miles. I. You know, every

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Speaker 1: time I'm on it's very last minute, so I don't

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Speaker 1: have a case prepared, but I will say I very

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Speaker 1: recently went through every song of Beyonce's Renaissance through the

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Speaker 1: lyrics with my my girls. We probably maybe every other

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Speaker 1: week just have a listening party of Renaissance specifically. So

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Speaker 1: this time though, we got the official record, you know,

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Speaker 1: she she bought the yeah, the merge, and we went through.

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Speaker 1: It has a beautiful art board, you know, lots of

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Speaker 1: you know, every uh lyric page has like part that

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Speaker 1: we've never seen before that's exclusive to the record. But

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Speaker 1: I learned a lot of things I didn't realize. We're

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Speaker 1: being said, Oh really, what was the most surprised What

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Speaker 1: was like the one lyric that you're like, Oh, I

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Speaker 1: of dirtier than I realized. You know, you just kind

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Speaker 1: of hear them. I mean I've like consciously and unconsciously

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Speaker 1: listen to this album a million times and just like vibes,

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Speaker 1: but when you're really listening to lyrics, were like okay,

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Speaker 1: getting down, yeah, getting dirty. Well, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for joining me today, and without further ado, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we have to introduce our guest today. You might know

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Speaker 1: her from I don't know CNBC when she's a national

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Speaker 1: her advice from the advice columns that she's done. Maybe

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Speaker 1: as the media entrepreneur that all of us tried to

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Speaker 1: aspire to be. Or maybe you heard about her fantastic

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Speaker 1: new memoir that just d call Why didn't you tell me?

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Speaker 1: Please welcome Carmen Rida Wong who listen in. I'm so

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Speaker 1: excited to be here with you, guys, Miles and Becca.

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Speaker 1: I let's go, let's let's do this. Let's good to

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Speaker 1: have you. Good to have you, thank you for having me,

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Speaker 1: Thank you absolutely absolutely. Where are you coming to us from?

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Speaker 1: H y C Man? Okay, how's the how's the weather

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Speaker 1: I don't like it because I want to wear my coats.

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Speaker 1: It is truly kind of like you're like a global

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Speaker 1: warmers coming because it's not this war November. No, it's not.

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Speaker 1: And I'm really getting frustrated because I'm like any of

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Speaker 1: Tim's on. Okay, everybody, they're like what is wrong with this, dude?

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Speaker 1: You know what it is, what it is. Yes, thank

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Speaker 1: been going through your book. It's amazing and I think

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Speaker 1: like who is her father happening? What happen? Yes? Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: But before we get into all that, I want to

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Speaker 1: It's kind of cool, like you miss the pun miles

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Speaker 1: ask you, our esteemed gast, what is something from your

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Speaker 1: I I listened this morning to an interview with Ramona Emerson,

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Speaker 1: has to do with Rihanna and she's having I can't

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Speaker 1: I want my girl back. Who said I'm not doing

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Speaker 1: get series for a second. Uh, forgiveness, it's overrated. It's overrated. Now,

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Speaker 1: But I do think it's really overrated, right because that's

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Speaker 1: People might not understan like just sort of know broadly

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Speaker 1: they were your your insurance, go to these people because

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Speaker 1: they respect me that that you have performed a very

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Speaker 1: important service. That is an incredible You've saved them hours

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Speaker 1: and months and years of pain. So bravo, girl, bravo.

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Speaker 1: They're like, hey, I want to get Becca's list, Like,

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Speaker 1: how all right, let's take a quick break and we'll

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Speaker 1: be right back to talk about governance after this, and

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Speaker 1: we're back and uh, let's talk a little bit. You know,

427
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Speaker 1: the midterms are coming up. The GOP is and a

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Speaker 1: lot of the news like mayor red wave, I don't know, maybe,

429
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 1: but also the polling looks all skewed, but also the

430
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Speaker 1: returns seem like that the voter turnout is fucking sky high.

431
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Speaker 1: So everyone is kind of like, what what narrative is

432
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: the one that resembles the actual reality closely? I'm not

433
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: sure yet, but we do know is what comes out

434
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: of the mouths of the Republicans, And like, ever since,

435
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: the rhetoric from this group has just been like some

436
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 1: fucked up promotion for like a revenge tour, like you know,

437
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: striking back at those that refused to allow an election

438
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Speaker 1: to be overturned or those that half enforced the law

439
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: and let us kind of get away with it. Oh

440
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: we got something for y'all. That's like the energy. None

441
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: of their talking points are ever solutions to actual problems.

442
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: It's just like, man, and that's a problem. Huh, inflation,

443
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 1: what's your plan? It's bad? Huh, that's okay, that's not

444
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 1: going to help people who are living check to check.

445
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: You can't just be angry at it. If you're you're saying,

446
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Speaker 1: vote for me so I have a position to make decisions,

447
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: then maybe give them some idea of what's you know,

448
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: what the solution is there? Anyway, right now they're making

449
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 1: a lot of noise about how, you know, when we

450
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Speaker 1: get back into power. The woke companies, Oh, they're fucked,

451
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 1: and what does that even mean? So, like, like companies

452
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Speaker 1: that are acknowledging that climate change is going to kill us,

453
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Speaker 1: so they're doing the literal bear mornment to act like

454
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Speaker 1: it's an issue. So they said, uh, in the Senate,

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Speaker 1: This is from the Washington Post like that. The title

456
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Speaker 1: of the article something about like like the GOP goes

457
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: after cancerous like climate investments, say, senators are pushing legislation

458
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Speaker 1: to punish businesses that prioritize environmental, social and governance causes

459
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 1: also known as E s G rather than pure profits. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's saying like, oh, hey, well we're not We're gonna

461
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Speaker 1: go dark on election day so people can vote. They're like, oh,

462
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Speaker 1: so you all woke. Now, hey, we're gonna we're gonna

463
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Speaker 1: invest in this like technology that will help the planet.

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Speaker 1: Oh so you're fucking woke now. And they said that

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Speaker 1: that this already seems to already create a bit of

466
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Speaker 1: a chilling effect on Wall Street, and because some CEOs

467
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Speaker 1: are now scrambling to quote emphasize that their firms are

468
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Speaker 1: still investing in fossil fuels to be like, you see,

469
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Speaker 1: we we haven't crossed the rubicon. Congressman Andy Barr of

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Speaker 1: Kentucky goes even further. He said, quote, my view is

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Speaker 1: that E s G investing is a cancer within our

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Speaker 1: capital markets. It is a fraud on American investors. Carmen,

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Speaker 1: you come, you have a bit of a finance background,

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Speaker 1: oh twenty years uh, Like you know when you hear

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Speaker 1: a statement like that that s G investing is a

476
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Speaker 1: cancer within our capital markets, a fraud on American investor,

477
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: like it's cancerous to invest in like equity and environmental stability, Miles,

478
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: I also have a master's in psychology. This is projection.

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00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 1: This is complete and utter projection. Anything they say is

480
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: what they're doing and who they are. They are the cancer, right,

481
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Speaker 1: This is all about their their real thing that they

482
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: really really really want has actually pretty much nothing to

483
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Speaker 1: do with really going after these companies. It's about creating

484
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: a story and the language and a sense of rage, right,

485
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: which is what they feed off of, which is where

486
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: they get their votes from. Right, and fear and strike

487
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 1: some fear in businesses to get you know, to to

488
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Speaker 1: lean off of the whole, you know, getting off of

489
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Speaker 1: fossil fuels, because in the end, you know, that's what

490
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: their leaders, the Republican leaders, they they're tied to that,

491
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 1: they're tied to all of that. So they want their profits.

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Speaker 1: So that's they put out a message. Let me tell you.

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Speaker 1: If there's one thing that you know the Reds can do,

494
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: it is messaging. Oh yeah, because they do. They go

495
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: in wrong and strong, wrong and strong, and you know what,

496
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: it's easier to be wrong and strong. That's just the

497
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: bottom line. And it's easier to appeal to lizard brain,

498
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: always easier. Lizard brain is just easy peasy, But it's

499
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: much harder to you know, really lead with the the

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00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: actual thing, the actual stuff, because it's just not angry.

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00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: It's not fear, it's not anger, it's progress. And um,

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00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: this country, you know, you know it's got a problem

503
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: with progress absolutely, and I mean this this quote. I

504
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: feel like truly it's like the embodiment of what is

505
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: wrong with our society. Right, the idea that maximum profit

506
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: is like the moral person suit, even if it exacerbates

507
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Speaker 1: poverty and earth death. I mean, look, did you did

508
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: you see that there's a somebody snuck out of video

509
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: of I can't remember what candidate was or what senator

510
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: was saying that the actual goal is to completely get

511
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Speaker 1: rid of social security. Now, so talk about maximizing profits.

512
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Speaker 1: So what do you want people, old, older people and

513
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: poor people to do? Die? Yes in the end of

514
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 1: the because their belief system, their value system, is completely

515
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: based on animalistic things like survival of the fittest, which

516
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: is not what real societies and civilizations can live off of. No,

517
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Speaker 1: we can't. You're right, because if you're a society, you

518
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: have an obligation to help people in that society, right,

519
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: that society, and that means that we're smart human beings.

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Speaker 1: But if you want to go back to, you know,

521
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: being living in the plains, the desert plains, then and

522
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: all this talk about alpha stuff and all this survival

523
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: of the fittest, it's that whole belief of if you

524
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: are or if you are disabled, if you can't get ahead,

525
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: it's your fault m h. And you will succumb to

526
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: whatever you know. And well, but by the way until

527
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: because I have a section of my family who grew

528
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: up in New Hampshire who you know, win a different way,

529
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: and they will be you know they were they'll use disability,

530
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: but they'll just rant against it, rant against all these

531
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: things until they need it. And if you dig you'll

532
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: see that that's the case. So for example, how they

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00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: all came out and said student loaned it, how dare

534
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: you forgive that? And meanwhile all these guys talking that

535
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: had all of their loans from the pandemic loans forgiven. Absolutely,

536
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: it's not about that. It's it's just man, it is

537
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: so so lizard. Yeah. And it's just also funny too

538
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,719
Speaker 1: because even goes against like their free market ideology to like,

539
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: what about letting the markets decide? Fam, I thought that

540
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: was your whole thing too. And if they're saying, I

541
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: don't know, consumers seem to not really funk with killing

542
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: the planet, and they're like, that's the what the market

543
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: is telling us. They like this ship, we're selling it,

544
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: we're making money. What the fund is this? But again

545
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: it's all because its own service of this like theocracy

546
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: where you know, white cishet Christians are like at the

547
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: top of the fucking ladder, because that seems to that's

548
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: sort of what has been powering them for the longest time,

549
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: you know, right, And if they keep it up, well

550
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: we won't, we won't catch up. That's what they don't.

551
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: They don't want us to catch up. They don't want

552
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: you to catch up. And I think, you know, it's

553
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: like the only like when they like the fraud on

554
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: American investors, it's the only fraud here is like the

555
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: constant like self victimization that absolutely conservatives preach. You know,

556
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: society is clearly moving in the opposite direction of these

557
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: right wing extremists, and that's why they have to go

558
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: all in on like election denial and voter suppression because

559
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: their message of like hatred and climate change now doesn't resonate,

560
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: you know. And the fact that companies are donating the

561
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: candidates that aren't espousing the same rik also pisses them

562
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: off too, because they're like, well, the fuck it, man,

563
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: the we'll find a way to fucking destabilize your business too,

564
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: because just get in line. This is the one party

565
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: or whatever, and this is the one way of thinking,

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00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: and it's just wild, like you're stretching big time when

567
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: you're like when you identify like JP Morgan, Chase and

568
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: Goldman Sachs is like these Wolke capitalist companies, like come

569
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: on now, no, this is crazy. I listen, wold not

570
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: to let me bring it back. I'm gonna bring it

571
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: back to the book. And then here's how, here's how,

572
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: here's how. Anybody who's growing up with narcissistic parents knows

573
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: what this how this all goes, and knows what this

574
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: is all about. You've heard it, you've seen it, you've

575
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: lived with it, and you grew up with it. So

576
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: it's easy to see what they're doing. The vixtimization. No,

577
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: it's not it's me. Oh you're hurting me. You're doing this.

578
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: It's all of that, the protection, the victimization, it's all

579
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: psychological tactics that are unfortunately working to to keep us

580
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: down because nation not even nationwide globally, we're seeing us, right,

581
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: We're seeing how scary the Brazil election was, We're seeing

582
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: how we're seeing Israel. We're seeing all these really hard

583
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: right because the population of the world is changing, m

584
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: it is turning into us. Look at us people, if

585
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: you could see us right now when we tell we

586
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: got brown, we got Asian, we got black, we got Latino,

587
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: we got all of it right here, and that is

588
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: what they're terrified of. Yeah, And I think it's it's

589
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: part of like the this denial about like this myth

590
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: that I think, like the old school white American tells

591
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: themselves about this idea of American exceptionalism and completely having

592
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: to ignore, like they don't they don't want to confront

593
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: that central myth. Uh, you know, especially that like that

594
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: most people talk about that the land that their country

595
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: sits on, this was violently colonized and then built with

596
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: slave labor. But not because they were innovators and benevolent explorers.

597
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: Some of this is off of brute force and violence.

598
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: And then it's like kicking back and be like yeah, wow,

599
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: this is this is this place is fantastic. And I

600
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: think there was this there's this moment like I just

601
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: want to touch touch on like the kind of backlash

602
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: that I think we're seeing really like form in a

603
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: in a really specific way since you know, like Obama

604
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: was elected and you know, I think far too many

605
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: people thought hooray, racism is over, even though we never

606
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: had a reckoning with that other stuff I just talked about,

607
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: like the genocide and slaver. But we're totally good, now,

608
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: totally good, Now, everything's all good. But then that also

609
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: set off the tea party in birth or nonsense. And

610
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: now we're kind of here, and there's just in your book.

611
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: I just want to talk about your book really quick,

612
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: or I mean, this is the reason I bring this

613
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: up is that, like America right has this issue with

614
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: seeing people who are not the status quo begin to

615
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: experience any level of equity or success and or if

616
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Speaker 1: there's even ride God forbid and who you are and

617
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: that's not conforming to the status quo of cis head

618
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: Christian whiteness, then guess what they're probably gonna come for

619
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: you because oh you're too you're too proud to be gay,

620
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: you're too proud to be black, you're too too proud

621
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: to be Dominican, whatever it is, there's just there, there

622
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: will always be something like, well, why can't we be

623
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: proud of being like you know that there's always that weird,

624
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: freaky counter argument that you see, and like in your book,

625
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: there's this one moment that really stuck out to me

626
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: is when your mother, who's Dominican like Afril Latina, she

627
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: was inspired by Rita Moreno seeing Rita Moreno on the

628
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Speaker 1: electric company and she had her hair in the afro

629
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Speaker 1: and she was like, oh, I like that, got her

630
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: hair done. And then when she came home, your stepfather

631
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: did not like what he saw, and she had very

632
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: quickly make herself small to the status quo, so to speak, well,

633
00:34:54,160 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: to appease her white new husband. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but

634
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: it hurt a lot of people. It's come up a

635
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: lot because it really just shows just how tough that

636
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: whole idea of you quote unquote assimilation was. So we

637
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: moved from Harlem to New Hampshire. To give people some background.

638
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: I went from Dominican Chinese from Chinatown Harlem to the whiteness,

639
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: wild whiteness of New Hampshire and a new white stepfather

640
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: and the Spanish. No Spanish in the house, no Spanish food,

641
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: no Dominican food, no Chinese, no nothing, and it just

642
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: turned into whiteness. And my mother tried to rebel a

643
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: little bit and tried to be proud of herself because

644
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: she was a very funky, fun well dressed. Of course,

645
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: the Winnighana in New York, and she did that hairstyle

646
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: and the pride in her face when she walked in

647
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: the door, I lit up, and then within two seconds

648
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: I went, oh shit, because I knew what was coming.

649
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: And when my stepfather came home and he saw, he

650
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: called her upstairs, and she came down a bit later,

651
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: her face a little puffy, and she had a scarf

652
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: on her head, and I didn't We didn't see her

653
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: head again until that hair grew out and she could

654
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: pull it back in a ponytail and straighten it again.

655
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: And that based message was to her was how dare

656
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: you be yourself? How dare you be proud of your

657
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: hair and your heritage and all of that? And the

658
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: message to me was is that if you want to

659
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: be in this America, you need to look like us

660
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: and be like us, or we're gonna make you, or

661
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: you can't be here. An knows. And it was bad

662
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: to be me, So it was. It was very much

663
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: that sad message. But I'll tell you in terms of

664
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: not letting us succeed in being proud, I got that

665
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: message when I was a little kid in Catholic school

666
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: there in New Hampshire, the nuns hated that I was smart.

667
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: Hated it. They would not points off ship. Oh, they

668
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: hated it. It made it infuriate them. And I like

669
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: kind of lapped it up as like a little kidding,

670
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: like their expectations of me were so low, and then

671
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: I was like this like crazy straight e student and

672
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: they like chalked it up to the Chinese side or

673
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: some ship, but they it drove them crazy and they

674
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: wouldn't let me join the National Honors Society. The wouldn't

675
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: let me do lots of things which affected my life.

676
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 1: And if you can imagine, this happens all the time, Yeah,

677
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: exactly all the time. I think that's why, just like

678
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: the book can resonate with so many experiences, right because

679
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: just even from that moment, I think a lot of

680
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: people have felt man like, man, people are gonna laugh

681
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: at my lunch because it smells I eat ethnic for

682
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: like that I'm not eating lunchables and ship or you know,

683
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: like I don't want to bring chopsticks to eat my

684
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: lunch at school because and be like you know and

685
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: like you like and that like that's like those are

686
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: the subtle ways that you grow up, like having to

687
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: check your sort of immigrant nous or non like mainstream

688
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: white American nous, right. And it is also a really

689
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: interesting perspective that kind of shows just how like this

690
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: like violent enforcement of the like white status quo like

691
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: effects us in so many different ways, you know, Like

692
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: you're talking about achievement, right, so many like my mom's

693
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: an immigrant from Japan, my dad's black. They're like, man,

694
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: you gotta go to fucking college. The fucking movie fucking

695
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: are you out your fucking mind. You will go to college,

696
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: you will get a degree. You will then have to

697
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: get a good job so you can enter the middle

698
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: class so you can survive this ship. And like it

699
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: was like told to me, like they're like listen to

700
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: me in in a way, like I had that hammered

701
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: into my head, and I'm I'm glad I did go

702
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: to I learned a lot from my time pursuing my

703
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: education and things like that, but it definitely put a

704
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: damper on my own belief that I could pursue like

705
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: creative interest took look at me, like I ended up

706
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: doing completely. All wanted to be was a writer, Like

707
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: that's all I ever wanted to be. And it took

708
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: me to you know, decades to get back to it

709
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: after going doing all this other stuff because in our

710
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: house we were not allowed. You had to be a doctor,

711
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: lawyer and n b A. Surviving survival is step one.

712
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 1: It's not oh, don't worry about survival, baby, we're good.

713
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: Like that's a very specific kind of person where survival

714
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: isn't the absolute step one to living. First survival, first

715
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: survived this ship. Then if you got time, all right,

716
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: funk around that other stuff. But step one is fucking survived,

717
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 1: because don't get it sucked up. This place is really

718
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: difficult for people who look like us, and it's it's

719
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, just knowing that just sort of the

720
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: imbalance of all that, right, And we're in a situation now, yeah,

721
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: where we're trying to we're merely saying to live in

722
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: a world. We want to live in a world where

723
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: I don't have to look at my kid or something

724
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 1: and say, you know what, like you gotta you gotta

725
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: worry about X, Y and Z, because this is everything

726
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: is stacked against you, etcetera, etcetera. There's no such thing

727
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: as equity. You gotta fight for everything because unfortunately that's

728
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: the case. But that is completely then spun by people

729
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: on the right as like an attack right because our

730
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: equality looks like they're fucking nightmare. I just want to

731
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: play this one ad that's playing in Georgia because I

732
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: think it perfectly sums up how conservatives are thinking, especially

733
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: in this moment. This is a real ad playing in

734
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: Georgia right now, asking about like, why is it okay

735
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: for there to be racism against white people? When did

736
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,479
Speaker 1: racism against white people become okay? Joe Biden put white

737
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: people last in line for COVID relief funds. Kamala Harris

738
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: said disaster age should go to non white citizens. First.

739
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: Liberal politicians block access to medicine based on skin color.

740
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: Progressive corporations, airlines, universities all openly discriminate against white Americans.

741
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: Racism is always wrong. The left's anti white bigotry must stop.

742
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: We are all entitled the equal treatment under law. America.

743
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: First Legal paid for this from Yeah wow, Wow. They

744
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: want to be discriminated so bad, Well again, it serves them,

745
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: right language, It serves them, and it doesn't acknowledge the

746
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: disparity at all because it say's we're equal treatment. It's

747
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: it's not. When they know that things aren't equal. They

748
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: know there's no equity. They know, And this is what

749
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 1: really drives me crazy when people talk like this. They know,

750
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: they know, but they're choosing to focus on the language

751
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: and focus on twisting the language to suit what they

752
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: want to do. But it's it's propaganda. It's just totally

753
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: psychological what you call it psy ops just to say

754
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: what about us? Because the whole thing is just kind

755
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: of like, really, what the subtext of this is. It's

756
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: white people were about to be like we did the

757
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: other people. That's the subtext. And they know that because

758
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: you often know how bad non white people have it

759
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: to be able to connect that pain and fear to

760
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: this kind of ad because most of white people be

761
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: like what, I don't know. In my majority white area,

762
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: my job is like fine, ship right AOC. She's all

763
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: outspoken and ship. Oh my god, I don't want to

764
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: get dunked on by her. She was a bartender, which

765
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: is like the same thing. You know. I gotta tell you, man,

766
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 1: even within the community I hear from sometimes I'm talking

767
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: you know, in the King of Latinos and the men

768
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: too are very man about people like me, even if

769
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: they're even if they're left. It's like they really dismissed her.

770
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: I've got into like arguments they really dismiss her because

771
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: she's a woman, bombers man. But it's not racism as

772
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 1: much in our community. It's like yes, and hence why

773
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: Latinos voting in Florida. Look at where it's going. You

774
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: kidding me, man, kidding me? Because we want to be

775
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: so much apart of the ruling class, right, we want

776
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: to be accepted so bad. And you see that too

777
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: with like so many like people that the right co

778
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: ops like black and brown bodies that they're like, look

779
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: at this one. And you can also see like anybody

780
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 1: to like I think any person, any marginalized person who's

781
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 1: been like damn man, like the man being a white

782
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: looks easier or like I would get less ship if

783
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: I was white. Like that that can stay with people

784
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: throughout their entire lives, to the point the next thing

785
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: you know, they're on they're on Bench Shapiro Show talking

786
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 1: about how you know that's the reason why. Look I'm black,

787
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you the problem is fathers are just around.

788
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: It's not mass incarceration or anything like that. And right, seriously,

789
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: but like that's really you can kind of you just

790
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: see how like there's also this how that all that

791
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: is like internalized white supremacy too, feels like, well, Ship,

792
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: I might be safer if I'm team these people like that.

793
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: You know the insidiousness of that tune. You're like, damn.

794
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: There a really good book about it for Latino specifically.

795
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: It's called The Hispanic Republican by GERALDO. Um and it's

796
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: the byeline is the shaping of American political identity from

797
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: Nixon a Trump. So highly recommend it for a read

798
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: if you want to unpack like kind of like the

799
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: white Cuban Latino of Florida, the internalized racism our community

800
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 1: has when it comes to like voting. I know my

801
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: father personally, he was never a Republican, but he definitely

802
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: dealt with his own internalized racism and truly like head

803
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: in the sand, you know, if I don't, you know,

804
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: say anything, I don't have to worry, like how do

805
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: I just assimilate and be the Latino man that they

806
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: need me to be and not buck the system. It

807
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: took Trump getting elected for my dad to really care

808
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: and realize, oh Ship, this affects me. You know, for

809
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: so long he was like, you know, like I don't

810
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: say nothing, I don't do nothing. I do what might

811
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: need to do. I speak English. I refuse to speak

812
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: Spanish like you and anybody who tries to speak to

813
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: me in Spanish. I like my white Americana things. I

814
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 1: eat meat loaf and that's who I am. Oh my god,

815
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: meat loaf, you said, traumatized Trump getting elected for him

816
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: to become like a prouder Latino in our home, like

817
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: it really did. It was the other same thing. It

818
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: would be the same same thing because she ended up

819
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 1: evangelical in the end, and she, you know, even though

820
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: she's the one who taught me how to sit, how

821
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: to see propaganda when I was a little kid, because

822
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: you know, her family fled right a dictatorship and all

823
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: that stuff. But once she was here, it was all

824
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: just assimilate. And then she became super super conservative and

825
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: it was just horrible to see. But it was all

826
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: this kind of like fleeing towards some sense of safety,

827
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: like if I, if I go with them, I'll be okay,

828
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: like you know, but if I'm against them, then I'm

829
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: a target. And it's just so sad. It's very ands

830
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: are like and if you don't have the self belief

831
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: or feel feeling that you could even be safe in

832
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: your community as a buyin. Ay, you might be like, well,

833
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: that's at least safe, because I know if I'm out

834
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: here proud of who I am, fucking targets sometimes yeah,

835
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: for sure, Yeah that's what. That's what. Well. Yeah, and

836
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,479
Speaker 1: if your own community doesn't even accept you either, because

837
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: like when I was a kid with the New Hampshire

838
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: thing and then all of a sudden, I'm taking French

839
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: and you know, my Spanish is going away and I'm

840
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: dressing different also, and I come home to the city

841
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: and oh do you talk white? Like you look so white?

842
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 1: You missed you that and my own community rejected me. Yeah,

843
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: so you're getting it from both sides. So you can

844
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: see if these other generations are kind of like, well,

845
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna these guys want me like you don't want

846
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: me because now I'm too Gringa, I'm too American for you.

847
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: Our own communities have to deal with our own stuff too. Yeah,

848
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 1: not besides, but but as well, because it's so important

849
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: to band together, man, you know, I mean, I mean

850
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: that the group people who call me Jackie Chan the

851
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: most or like my black friends for cousins too, and

852
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: that's just how he's Chinese. Yeah, well yeah when I

853
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 1: said that, they're like what, Yeah, They're like, I can't

854
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: even come from we know that, we know that. I'm

855
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: oh no, but anyway, Miles, the Asian black thing love it.

856
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: My brother was very much ablazeon yeah, that's what he

857
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: came out. It's interesting. I mean, I totally I identify

858
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: so much with everything you write, and like, oh, it's

859
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: just it's just so funny, like it doesn't matter what

860
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: it is. Everything, like you start mixing races up. It's

861
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: pretty much the same thing for everybody once the second

862
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: it happens, because it's so you come from well defined

863
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: like identities and then you try and find your place

864
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: in the middle. It's always very hectic until you just

865
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: meet other places. But don't but don't people say to

866
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: you too, like I find I get some times from

867
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: from the black community or the Asian community were kind

868
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: of like but you know, it's so completely like there's

869
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 1: so many things that's so complicated and and it's hard,

870
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: and it did that like like making it seem like

871
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 1: this this horrible burden, whereas I have to say, like

872
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I find it the coolest ship. Like

873
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: I can see and do an experience things like that,

874
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think it's a little

875
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 1: bit of a superpower. Miles one. I don't. I don't.

876
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: I don't have any grievances about at all. I like

877
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 1: to your point, like I can navigate fucking any fucking space.

878
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: Like I grew up in l A, so I know

879
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 1: enough Spanish. I'm good Spanish speakers, fucking Korean speakers from

880
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: Osmosis Armenians. Like you grow up with a ton of

881
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: different people and you hang out with them enough, you're like,

882
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: oh ship, yeah, okay, like I see, I see the

883
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: overlap here and there. But yeah, I mean they are

884
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: the shape shifters, man, and they are scared of us

885
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: because we are the future of the being bilingual and

886
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: like bilingual ship too. People up so bad Like I was,

887
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: I was just thinking about, you know, like like how

888
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: you're saying, like in your house having Spanish band. I

889
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 1: know so many people who are like like other half

890
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: Japanese kids whose American parent was like, we're not, Oh yeah,

891
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: we're not doing that because that's I'm not about to

892
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: have y'all talking in code behind me, behind my back,

893
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: even though they're loving parents, but that like very odd.

894
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: What specific insecurity is there of, like I love you,

895
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: you're my wife, and you are from this country, but

896
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: don't fucking don't don't start speaking your other language to

897
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: this kid, because that now I'm left out and I

898
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: damn sure I'm not gonna learn your That was part

899
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: of it. That that was part of it too, for sure,

900
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: that was part of it. That that dynamic too, and

901
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 1: that dynamic of the white man kind of the white

902
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: savior thing that also played out my mother's second marriage.

903
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: That big like I'm gonna I'm going to take this

904
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: dark native lady and I'm going to show her American,

905
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: give her American life and fix her teeth and get

906
00:49:54,600 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: her contacts and effects. Oh, it was so like at

907
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: it's so weird because like I grew up in a

908
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: both Puerto Rican home, like both my parents are Puerto Rican,

909
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: but my dad was so Americanized. My mom is from

910
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: the islands from the States, and he was the one

911
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: who was like, we're not doing that in our house

912
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: because I'm afraid of what people will think of you,

913
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: my very Puerto Rican wife. And so like they spoke

914
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: in Spanish as it rode against us, but they wouldn't

915
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: teach us Spanish because they did not, like my dad

916
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: didn't want us walking the world speaking Spanish and being discriminate. Again,

917
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: so it's like my dad only spoke it if he

918
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 1: had to, like if my grandmother really need to understand

919
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: something because she didn't speak English, or if he was

920
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: like arguing with my mom about us, and or my

921
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: mom would use it to bully us, which was really

922
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: fucked up. And that's but yeah, she would speak Spanish

923
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: in front of us to be like, I'm mad at you,

924
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: but you can't tell him cussing you out because I'm

925
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: speaking Spanish. But that's who learned all the swears though,

926
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: yea our own mother. Yeah, to the point, I thought

927
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: Karajo was my name literally right, hold me, That's all

928
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: I hear is my mother's voice every time. And then

929
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: I would be like, oh, Spanish swears, and she was like,

930
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: you don't know any and I'm like everywhere, And I

931
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,479
Speaker 1: think also to your point, Becker, right, like we're talking

932
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: about the cycles that our parents are trying and prevent, right,

933
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: Like I'm sure your dad felt mothered by speaking Spanish

934
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: and knowing Spanish that in his mind, his strategy as

935
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: a parent was, I'm going to protect my child so

936
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: they don't get bullied or mothered by speaking Spanish. Meanwhile,

937
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: taking away a vital connection to a culture through language,

938
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 1: and you're you come out the other side of being

939
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: like it really would have been dope if you actually

940
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: taught me. When I think about it, when I was

941
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: reading your book, Carmen, when you're talking about the food

942
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: in the household, because my mom cooked certain like my

943
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: mom grew up as the cook and her family like

944
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: she my grandmother grew up in a single parent household,

945
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: like my great grandmother was a single parent in the

946
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: like in New York, in Washington Heights, and so my

947
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: grandmother didn't learn how to cook, and so my mom

948
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: when she my grandmother married a Puerto Rican man and

949
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: moved back to Puerto Rico, she learned from all her

950
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 1: DIA's to cook. So my mom was a cook for

951
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: the whole family, cook traditional Puerto Rican food. But then

952
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: she married my dad, and my dad didn't like to

953
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: eat that food because he is so Americanized. And I mean,

954
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: like certain dishes we cooked, we grew up with like

955
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: certain Puerto Rican dishes, but I ate very Americana growing up,

956
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: like burgers, meat loaf, roasted chicken, like the same hand

957
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: when you said when you said meat loaf, I like,

958
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: I I cringed because that my mother learned how to cook.

959
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: And I put that in quotes because the stuff was

960
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: trash and he was and my mom is an incredible cook,

961
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: so the food was good. But it's just like I

962
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: think about those meals and I'm like, wow, my mom

963
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: really like and not that Putorican food is great for

964
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: you by any means, but it's like my mom learned

965
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: how to cook some like really American as dishes. For

966
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: my dad, I feel like, and he is still very

967
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: picky eater this day. Like he's only now curving his

968
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: diet a little bit because the doctor was like, you

969
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: got to figure this out. This is not working for

970
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: you anymore. You can't beat fast food all the time. Whatever.

971
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: But it is just so crazy the things that my mom,

972
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: who grew up in a very ethnic household, kind of

973
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 1: curved even though my dad was also Puerto Rican because

974
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 1: he was so afraid and it was a conversation a lot.

975
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: My mom was like, no, like, my kids are gonna

976
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: be bilingual, like she was like, well, I grew up

977
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 1: thinking my children would always become bilingual. But marrying your father,

978
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: it was so interesting to be like, I see, like,

979
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: you're not gonna have a relation of your kids if

980
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: they speak Spanish. And that's well, we could, but we

981
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: that's that's for us, right, that's for us to change

982
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: and to choose to change, and and all of those things.

983
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: Like I got my Spanish back pretty much and tried

984
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: but to raise my daughter with it, but thwarted a

985
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: bit by the fact that I was the main breadwinner,

986
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: so I wasn't the one who could end the person.

987
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: You know. The people that she was with in terms

988
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: of daycare was they were Georgian from Russia, like Georgians,

989
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 1: you know. And she ended up taking in school Mandarin

990
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: because she she knew her gun, she knew her grandfather,

991
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: and she really took to Mandarin. And she's she's does music,

992
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 1: math and Mandarin looks like the same parts of her

993
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: brain and she's like in like Mandarin six and she's amazing.

994
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: But she knows Spanish, she knows the food, she knows

995
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: I've taken her to Sound the Domingo. I've taken her

996
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: the d R many times. She knows all those parts

997
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: of her and though she struggles more with colorism because

998
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: my brother's kids are black Wongs. Their mom's from Guyana

999
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: black eye Ese, and she, my daughter turned out banga

1000
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: blanca like blue eyes and the whole thing, and kind

1001
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 1: of freakishly. She is the only white kid in the family.

1002
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: So she's dealing with it in a whole another way.

1003
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: And she says to me the other day, she says,

1004
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: you know what, mom, because we were talking politics. It's

1005
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: very depressing for her. Of course for all of us,

1006
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 1: but for the young kids, teenagers, it's really bad. And

1007
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: she was like, you know what, I'm just glad that

1008
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: I lived through the Obama years. She's like, because I

1009
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: got to see how it could be. Yeah, And it

1010
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: was like, oh, she broke my heart with that. But

1011
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 1: that idea she she did, it was a very different time.

1012
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't I'm not saying everything was, you know, cot,

1013
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: but it was the hate speech wasn't so outward. It

1014
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 1: wasn't people used shame about these things. Yeah, it used

1015
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: to be ashamed, but no, no longer, no longer. All right,

1016
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll be right back

1017
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 1: to talk about a teenager who might be saving democracy.

1018
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:51,760
Speaker 1: Some good news after this, and we're back, and good news, y'all,

1019
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 1: a fourteen year old and Ulster County, New York may

1020
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: have saved the fucking country. And you say, how, well,

1021
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: back in the summer, this kids entry for a contest

1022
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 1: to pick the new design for the I voted sticker

1023
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: in that county just blew up. And for those of

1024
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: us on this zoom call, I don't know if you've

1025
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: seen it. It's like a multi colored head with a

1026
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: mechanical spider underneath, as Jam describes if Baskia illustrated the

1027
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: children's book based on John Carpenter's The Thing, Yes, and

1028
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: yeah exactly. I voted in like the teeth are like

1029
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: rainbow colored, the eyes are bloodshot, and I guess. Reportedly,

1030
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: the election commissioner who was like in charge of this

1031
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: contest was quote shocked when she first saw the entry

1032
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: and she thought it was a joke because she received

1033
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: it on four twenties. So, okay, nice, try potheads. Do

1034
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: you think this is gonna fucking go? But this is wild?

1035
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: The reason? Okay, so this it did get selected, and

1036
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: it's not because like it wasn't just like the ironic

1037
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: Internet people being like vote for shoot like multi colored

1038
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: crab head sticker. There was, like they said, everyone in

1039
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,720
Speaker 1: this office at the County Commissioner's office was quote evenly

1040
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: split between Republicans and Democrats. They all laughed at the design.

1041
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: So they put that forward with like six other or

1042
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: five other designs to the final six. And this this guy,

1043
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: a Hudson Rowan, he fucking smashed the competition. He got

1044
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: nine of the foy You look at some of the

1045
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: other stickers, they are tied, they need to go to bed,

1046
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: just past their bedtime. The one is like a fucking eagle.

1047
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: This one was fire man. I wanted to the second

1048
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: I saw it, I wanted to go find a way

1049
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: to buy it. I was like one of those I

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00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: want one of those stickers. It's so wild, it like

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00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: it feels like something that's like, man, it's a straight

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00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: chaos absurd. But I don't know why I look at it.

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00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, there's some there's something true about this

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00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: about this weird disembodied crab head that's like in a

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00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: panicked me, like I voted or or I see him

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00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: as being like I voted, motherfucker, that's him. Oh. It's

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00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: like it's like, yeah, maybe one of me doesn't scare you,

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00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: but when millions of us get to go exactly. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just like it's just kind of a really beautiful,

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00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: like kind of moment. And like the kid wasn't even

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00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: trying to be like, oh, let me shoot on this

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00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: competition by putting forward this like image. Apparently like his

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00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: mom was just like, hey, there's a contest, and he

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00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: like and he saw what people were doing like American

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00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: flagship and like Uncle Sam type red, white, and blue nonsense,

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00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: and so he just said he decided to just doodle

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00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,479
Speaker 1: something that was more personal and reminiscent that to something

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Speaker 1: he would have drew when he was younger. He said,

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Speaker 1: he hopes it will inspire many people to vote. Well,

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Speaker 1: guess what, motherfucker, it looks like you have. It's being

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Speaker 1: used in early voting, and the Ulster County Commission they

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00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: were like looking at everything. They said, man that one

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00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: of the workers said, the sticker has become quote highly

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00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: coveted and has driven up turnout and excitement. And one

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00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: of the people who was like running the elections there

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00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: said it's definitely gotten more people out for the first day.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen this many people for a mid turn. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say it's solely the sticker. There

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00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: are some issues up for debate, but I do think

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00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: there is something to it because if you look back

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Speaker 1: at the history of like the I Voted sticker, it

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00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: happened in like the back end of the twentieth century

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00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: as a way to get to like make voting this

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00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: thing that felt more like a social gathering. And I think,

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00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: you know, like like like we've seen with the sticker,

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00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: we have like it's clear like research shows that like

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00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: stickers actually have an impact on some level on voter

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Speaker 1: turnout because a lot of people may vote not because

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00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, ship, like this is my civic duty,

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00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: but also because they're like, well everybody else getting a

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00:59:56,120 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: sticker social pres I post like tomorrow on vote early tomorrow,

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01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: and you know I'm going to post you know, the

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01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: picture with the stick Yeah. Absolutely, I think everyone does,

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01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: like I always do it to social but it's just

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01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: it's it warms my heart to see that like they

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01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: truly are just like looking at this and like damn,

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01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people like this absurd crabhead,

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Speaker 1: So shout out to the children a futures, yes, and

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Speaker 1: they will make stickers look a little crabhead shout out

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Speaker 1: crab bad shout out rowing uh and yes, please please

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Speaker 1: fucking vote well, Karmin read A Wong. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us on the Daily's I guess it

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01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: was an absolute pleasure speaking with you. Where can people

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01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:47,479
Speaker 1: find you and follow you and read you and all that? Yes, Yes,

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01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: go to at Carmen Wong on Instagram and also website

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01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: is Camado dot com. Go order the book, spread the word.

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01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: Let me know what you think. I love love getting

1108
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: people's feedback, reviews, talk to me through the website, d

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01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: M S whatever. I just love it and it's something

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Speaker 1: for everyone, as you said, Miles, something for everyone. Resonate

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01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: American story. Thank you so much for having me. Oh no, no,

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01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: it's all love, being honest, very like American kind of

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01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:22,959
Speaker 1: scary to the other side show because we just look

1114
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: at us like we are just oh we are they

1115
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: We're not being like how do we throw them all

1116
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: in jail? No, we're out here being like, man, everybody

1117
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 1: needs some ship. Yeah, and that's really the truth of it. Yeah,

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01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: Like let's be real, like, oh, I'm sorry, you can't

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01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: admit that you're getting sucked over. Okay, maybe your ego

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01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,959
Speaker 1: will look a subside for a moment and you can

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01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: allow yourself to be vulnerable, because I think that's the

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01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: other huge part about being American. There's vulnerability is like

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Speaker 1: not a real thing. No, no, no, Like allowing yourself

1124
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: to struggle in public is the worst absolute optics. You're

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01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: talking to someone who has a them are out miles.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say I'm not twenty years old, like it takes. Yeah,

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01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta give some cojones, you know, for real? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Is there a tweet or some other social media posts

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01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: that you've been liking? Car Oh, isn't Twitter and interesting place?

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01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: I'm at Carmen since s E N s E. But

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01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: I have held back on posting on Twitter because I

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01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: am concerned what's going on. But at the same time,

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01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: it is so much my place because I follow great,

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01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: great reporters, I follow great news outlets, and I follow

1135
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: long COVID research and COVID stuff, and it's just been

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01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 1: it's been a wealth of information for me. So I'm

1137
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: gonna be a little quiet there for a little bit

1138
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: to see what's happening and see what rolls out. But himself,

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01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you know, just go ahead and destroy yourself. No,

1140
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 1: I'm not going to destroy myself. I did download my

1141
01:02:55,760 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: eye god. Yeah you mean you mean the child at

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01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: the emerald, the boy with emeralds in his pockets, child

1143
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: at the controls. But yes, but I I downloaded my archive.

1144
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 1: I saudrust everybody do the same. Yeah, I lost all

1145
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: my Vine videos. Man, are you serious? Some wild ass

1146
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 1: vines to come on? I know, what are you gonna do? Now?

1147
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: Vine was fun. Unfortunately, I like TikTok. I'm there, but

1148
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 1: I'm a ghost. I just watched I don't. I think

1149
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: many of us are saying, yeah, it's too much great creativity, man,

1150
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 1: too much great. Yeah, and it's good that the algorithm

1151
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: hasn't taken you into like pseudoscience TikTok, because like it's

1152
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: I started getting stuff like that, and I'm like, you know,

1153
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: I do not like this, don't I know? I know

1154
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: how to like swipe through real fast when that sort

1155
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: of stuff comes up, Like I ate popcorn for thirty days,

1156
01:03:52,960 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 1: here are the results, and you're like, drink some water. No, no,

1157
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,919
Speaker 1: some of that stuff. No, Becca, thank you so much

1158
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: also for helping me co host today. You're the You're

1159
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: the greatest. Um. Where can people find you and follow you? Uh?

1160
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 1: And if there's a tweet or TikTok that you're with.

1161
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 1: I have a couple of tweets, but you can find

1162
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: me and follow me at Beck's B E C C S.

1163
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: Ramos on all platforms. I am a ghost on TikTok

1164
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: and I'm very active on Instagram. I'm also kind of

1165
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 1: a ghost on Twitter. But I did find two tweets.

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01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: One from Jamaica eleven J M E c A. My

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01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: mama swore up and down she wasn't my little friend.

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01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: Now look at her, my little friend. And that made

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01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: me laugh so as someone whose mother also told her

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01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: she was not her little friend. Um. And then the

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01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 1: second one, okay, go go go, I got one, Go ahead, Becka.

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01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: And then the second one I have is from Sefi

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Speaker 1: goth s A S E P H I R G

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Speaker 1: O t H. Keep me in your thoughts today I

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01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: have so I have to go to work even though

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01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 1: I'm so sleepy and beautiful and fun to be around.

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01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, I got one because I screens shotted

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01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 1: this yesterday at mr Jemma dari m R j e

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Speaker 1: j E m E d R. Glad to see so

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01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: many embracing therapy. A few of you need an exorcism

1181
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: as well. But baby steps, baby steps, love it. Sh Uh.

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01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: Let's see some tweets like first one is from Harry

1183
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: Wine reb w e I n r e B tweeted

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01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 1: today marks four years since I cut poisonous berries out

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01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: of my diet. I feel amazing. I have so much

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01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: more energy and more daily and no more daily trips

1187
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Speaker 1: to the e er. I can't recommend it enough. You

1188
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: always see tweets like that, stop this, and I've been,

1189
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: but yeah, please stop being those poisonous berries. Let's see

1190
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 1: Matt far At Philoso far f A r R tweeted

1191
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 1: over heeard A University students say Arctic Monkeys were my

1192
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: dad's favorite band when I was of time. Is relentless, unfathomable,

1193
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: cruel and unforgiving uh. And then Sydney Battle at Sydney

1194
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: Battle with wise s y d n e Y tweeted

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01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: huge drama on my block right now. Basically my crows

1196
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 1: got tired of the local squirrels always taking some of

1197
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 1: the food I leave out, so now as an act

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Speaker 1: of retaliation, the crows are going yard the yard, finding

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Speaker 1: the squirrels stashes and eating everything squirrels are watching in horror.

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Speaker 1: Uh so a little bit of drama on that block.

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Speaker 1: I like her, I like her real Sydney and TikTok's

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Speaker 1: She's great. Yeah, let's see. Oh. You can find me

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01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 1: at Miles of Gray on Twitter and Instagram. You can

1204
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 1: also find Jack and I on the other podcast Miles

1205
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 1: and Jack Got Mad Boost These an official NBA podcast,

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01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 1: and also my other trash reality TV podcast for twenty

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01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: day Fiance that I do with Sophia Alexandra When. You

1208
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 1: can find us at Daily's e Geist on Twitter, at

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Speaker 1: the Dailies e Guist on Instagram. We got a Facebook

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01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 1: fan paid and a website Dailies Guys dot com. We're

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01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 1: posting our episodes and a foot note but no thank you,

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01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: thank you left me hanging there for a second. Where

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01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: you can also check out the song We're gonna ride

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Speaker 1: out on today. We're gonna go out on this track

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Speaker 1: by Emmy O Woo sou I m M y O

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Speaker 1: w U s U. The track is called Brown Supremacy. Uh.

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Speaker 1: This guy is a really interesting artist. He is half

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Speaker 1: Gunnaian and half Australian and like his music, you know,

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01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 1: because we're talking about you know, racial identity, the fl

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Speaker 1: This is a really interesting track and he's a really

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01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 1: interesting artist. He's like, you know, he's was growing up

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Speaker 1: in Australia but grow like also listening to West African

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Speaker 1: like and Gane and high life music and has been

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Speaker 1: on this like musical personal artistic journey and you know

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01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: even stuff went to Africa to like study with his

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01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:51,439
Speaker 1: grandfather to learn more about like high life music, came

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Speaker 1: back and now he's got this track and it just

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Speaker 1: it feels like so fucking worldly, Like it has so

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Speaker 1: many dimensions of music where it's like rock and roll

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01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 1: or African percussion and things like that, it all comes

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01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: together for a really wonderful sound. So this is Brown

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Speaker 1: Supremacy by Emmy obusu uh Wait, that's right after that.

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Speaker 1: I'm supposed to wrap the show out, So check us

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Speaker 1: out there. Also for more podcasts, check out the I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your shows.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back later today to tell you what's trending.

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Speaker 1: Until then, take care of yourself by