1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 2: This is the Almost Famous podcast. We're here in San Francisco. Yes, 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: this is the weekend of the Almost Famous golf tournament, 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: which will be an annual thing probably for the next 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,159 Speaker 2: thirty years. Because I'll be working for Almost Famous for 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 2: the next thirty years. I'll be sixty years old talking 8 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: about the Bachelor. That's cool, right, right, It's very cool. Yeah, 9 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: that's a really cool place to be. But this is 10 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 2: the first year of it. The reason we're doing it 11 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: is to bring people together because in this bachelor world, 12 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: it's a little chaotic. It's not a lot of time 13 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: just to sit back and hang out and just be 14 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: together with people outside of your season. Today, we have 15 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: somebody I've always been super intrigued by for multiple reasons. 16 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: One of those is because the girls in the Almost 17 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: Famous podcasts really love Greg Grippo. 18 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 3: Oh that's sweet. 19 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, they really do. 20 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: In fact, one of the girls that work for the 21 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: Almost Fans podcast said, all of her friends are super 22 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: excited to meet Greg Gripple. 23 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 3: That's sweet. I feel like I haven't met any of them. 24 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're nervous. 25 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: I'm nervous come on this gracious, Greg, welcome, I'm glad 26 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: to be here. 27 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 4: You're sporting our brand already, I am. I have had 28 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 4: this for years. What is the true story of why 29 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 4: you're wearing our T shirt? 30 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 3: Andrew and I were playing. It was a little bowling 31 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 3: ball game outside in the yard, and then he whipped 32 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 3: the ball at me. Wind hit my chest. Shirt gone. 33 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 3: I said, you know what, I'm gonna rock the almost 34 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: famous scare for the rest of night. 35 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 2: It's a good workout shirt. You can cut the sleeves 36 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 2: out of it if you like a little tight, a 37 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: little snug, but I'll take it. It's it's one that 38 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: I don't even own. I saw you, I said, I'm 39 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: gonna get one. That'd be nice. It probably is my 40 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: face in the back, doesn't it. Actually no, it doesn't. 41 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: Wild Greg, you have had a wild ride through this franchise. Yeah, 42 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: tell me if I'm wrong. My assumption of you has 43 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: always been this show is not something that you were 44 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: seeking after. 45 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I don't think it's I wasn't. To 46 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 3: be honest with you, I mean I got called uh 47 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 3: three times for the show. Twice I turned it down 48 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 3: third time. I said it before and I'll say it again. 49 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: It was on my dad's anniversary. Uh. I was during COVID. 50 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 3: I was living in New York City working a job 51 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 3: I didn't love, and I was just like, screw it. Yeah, 52 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 3: you know what bachelor has some sick dates. Let me 53 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 3: travel a little bit. I mean it was a bubble season, 54 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: but we went to New Mexico, and I mean I 55 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 3: was single at the time, and I just it was 56 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: a shot in the dark. My sister ended up submitting 57 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 3: me years prior. They called me for Becca kuferin season. 58 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 3: I was way too young for that, and then Claire's 59 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: and I was also not ready enough for that, and 60 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 3: then uh, Katie's. It was just right timing. 61 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,119 Speaker 4: So like when it comes to you and Katie, let's 62 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 4: start there. 63 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you get on this show that you weren't you 64 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: know they said no to multiple times? Yeah, like why 65 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: was Katie as the bachelorrette something that you were like, 66 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: this is the one I would go for. 67 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I you never Also, I feel like 68 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but for me, I was 69 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 3: never one hundred percent sure that it was kat Katie. 70 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 3: I mean we were hearing groomors and I was like, 71 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 3: all right, it's definitely gonna probably be Katie. I was 72 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 3: hoping it was gonna be Katie. But I think it 73 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 3: was just the place that at least I thought I 74 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 3: was in at the time, and I thought that I 75 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: was in a good enough place. And I also just 76 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 3: like kind of just like wanted to take a chance 77 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 3: at something and it was exciting to me, and I 78 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 3: was just like, you know what, at the end of 79 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 3: the day, I could get sent home night one and 80 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 3: that's also okay, and like I was fine with that. 81 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with you because my season of 82 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: The Bachelor, at I didn't know who the bachelottes were 83 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: going to be and it was two, so they too. 84 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: I had two that season and that was a wild 85 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: ride because then they made you choose on night one 86 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: which one you wanted, you voted, and then one stayed 87 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: and one went home. 88 00:03:58,360 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 4: That's interesting. 89 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: That's so the complaint that like you were never there 90 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: for the right reasons is one that like, not that 91 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: you have that complaint, I'm saying in general, like anybody 92 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: gets the complaint like you weren't there for the bachelorrette, 93 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: It's like, well, no, you didn't really know who it was, right, Yeah, 94 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: Like of course I wasn't maybe there for the bachelors exactly. 95 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: You know, no until you show up. 96 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you have no idea. I mean, it's just 97 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 3: like you know, you're hoping at the end of the day, like, hey, 98 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: I could have a connection with the person, but you 99 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: also feel like it's a long shot also because it's 100 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: hard to envision when you really don't know one hundred 101 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 3: percent who the person is. 102 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: And then you went through it and things started to 103 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: change for you, like feelings started to grow, emotions started 104 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: to come out, you went through this whole thing. We 105 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: obviously know how your season the Bachelorette ended, but your 106 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 2: story really started post Bachelorette, like where you were a 107 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: fan favorite, like you. 108 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 3: Really it depends on who you're asking, I think. 109 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I think you listen to the critics more 110 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: than you hear the like compliments. But I think in general, 111 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: from my perspective as an outsider, like people loved you. 112 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's it's nice to know that that you 113 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 3: at least took it like that. I mean I felt 114 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 3: at least right right out of the show, right out 115 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 3: of the gate, not in the beginning to I'm talking 116 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 3: about towards the n as soon as I left, I mean, 117 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 3: I was it was. It was a scary time, at 118 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 3: least for me and at least like I was. It 119 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 3: was just like a humbling experience, and I I felt 120 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 3: like I was just like a shell of myself during 121 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 3: the time. But it I feel like I cracked out 122 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 3: of that in the last year or so, so I 123 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 3: feel like I'm in a good spot right now. But 124 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 3: during it all, it was rough. 125 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 4: You felt like the world was like coming at you 126 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 4: a little bit. 127 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say coming at me. It just felt like 128 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 3: a lot all at once. 129 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 4: Did it affect your personal life. 130 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, without a doubt. 131 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 4: How did you deal with that? 132 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 3: Gosh went back to therapy. I mean, I discovered that 133 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 3: I had so much to work on, even like post 134 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: like stuff with like my father and like my family 135 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 3: dynamic that I had to work out on my own, 136 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 3: you know, my own grief towards him and and you know, 137 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 3: sadness towards how I was feeling with my own family dynamic. 138 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 3: You know, leaving my mom by herself was just a 139 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 3: struggle for me, And there was just so much personal 140 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 3: things I had to go through that, Like I was 141 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: figuring out that, like Okay, maybe I wasn't ready for 142 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: this at the end of the day. 143 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: So I don't know if this question will come off 144 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 2: It will probably come off a little intrusive. But without 145 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: the show, m how would you have confronted those things 146 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 2: that obviously were needing to be confronted at some point? 147 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, just not knowing when they would have been. 148 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: You know, it's tough to say, you know, because in 149 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: what happened in life and my reality, I mean, it 150 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 3: was maximized to put it right into my face and 151 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: to show me that I needed to continue therapy and 152 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: continue work on myself. And I mean, hey, it like 153 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: it took. I mean, I've been off the show fraud. 154 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 3: I think it's like three years at this point, and uh, 155 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: I finally feel like I'm in like the healthiest spot since, 156 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: like my dad got sick. 157 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: But obviously that's I mean, to the viewers who don't 158 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 2: know the behind the scenes, don't know the work you're doing, 159 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: don't know where I think they're going to hear that 160 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: and be like that's interesting because you obviously are now 161 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: still single, right, and so you come off a very 162 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: public breakup, so at some point in this whole thing, 163 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: you decide to come back on national television and announce 164 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: a new relationship and walk into that whole path, right, Like, 165 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: how did that even get to the point where you 166 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: were saying, yeah, I'll go back on TV. Not maybe 167 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: even like ideally, but just I'm going to go back 168 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: on television and announce a relationship again, start this whole 169 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: new journey. 170 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 3: I mean I was in I was head over eels 171 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 3: for I was she uh, and I saw the backglass 172 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 3: that she was getting and and knowing what she was 173 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: about to walk into at that reunion, I mean her 174 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: and I were having discussions. I really didn't want to 175 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 3: go on, but I was also getting every one in 176 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 3: my circle was telling me not to. But at the 177 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: end of the day, like I was like, if we're 178 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 3: going to do this, I'm gonna have to stick this 179 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: out with you, and I just I went out there. 180 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: We kinda went and uh went to the gauntlet and 181 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: uh took it to the head and uh, I mean 182 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 3: it was it was. It was a tough way to 183 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: start everything for us, but I feel like there was 184 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 3: no other way. 185 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 4: So you went back on television. 186 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: Did you feel like the response was similar to your 187 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: time in the show or did you, like, were you 188 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: in a different place coming off of that. 189 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 3: No, I feel like I was in a better spot 190 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 3: because I feel like I was. I think that her 191 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 3: and I both knew that it was gonna be pretty tough. 192 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 3: I think my toughest during that time. You know, I 193 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: said this on Jason's that like it was the toughest 194 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 3: bar about it always seeing how it affected her. Yeah, 195 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: it was, Uh, the world was really hurtful towards her, 196 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 3: which sucked in it, and it was it was hard 197 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 3: to see. 198 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 2: I didn't feel and it's been a bit since I 199 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: saw that interview. I didn't feel like you had a 200 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: defensive spirit, like it felt like you were very much 201 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: in this place of no like like her or not, 202 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: this is where we're at. 203 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I was so content and happy. I 204 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 3: mean contense probably, I mean I think intense a good word. Yeah, 205 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 3: And I think that her and I both knew that 206 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 3: the way we started off, and whether people believed it 207 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: or not, we knew that that was the truth of 208 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: it all and we felt certain about it. And that's 209 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 3: why I was out there. 210 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like it wasn't as a viewer, I 211 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: don't think as a for me, as a negative. It 212 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 2: is like, no, there's no like defensiveness. Like you're not 213 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 2: like reacting to the comments and the questions. You're you're 214 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: just answering them. Yeah, because it's where you're at in life. Yeah, 215 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,119 Speaker 2: you're gonna move forward absolutely. 216 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 4: How long ago was that? 217 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 3: Uh? What was that? 218 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: Was that? 219 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 3: Two years ago? At this point? I think it was. 220 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 2: So now you're back out into the world two years 221 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: ago in a new relationship that ends at some point 222 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 2: here along the journey, and you're sitting here with us today. Yeah, 223 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 2: do you, like, can you catch us up on where 224 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 2: you're at mentally just as a human outside of you know, 225 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: the ending of that and entering into the new world again. 226 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 2: You talked about your journey of getting back healthy, confronting 227 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: some of the things you wanted to or needed to 228 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 2: confront that you maybe even know you need to confront. 229 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, where are you at today? 230 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think that's like the biggest thing is that 231 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 3: like a lot of the things you need to confront. 232 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 3: That's the most frustrating part about it is that you 233 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 3: don't maybe don't realize in the moment that you need 234 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 3: to confront and like looking back on it all and 235 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 3: like I think taking some a step away from dating 236 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 3: has been the healthiest thing for me. And it's been 237 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 3: what what month is at August? I mean it's been 238 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 3: what six months or since seven months since uh her 239 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 3: and I have ended at this point, and I haven't 240 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: been dating, and it's been feeling really good to just 241 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 3: worry about myself, focus on myself, and it's I feel 242 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 3: just like I'm in a healthy spot. 243 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 4: I really do. 244 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 3: And it's felt like this has been needed and I 245 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 3: feel good about it all. 246 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: Is there anything else you'd like to say about that, 247 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: Like just that relationship ending because the public. I mean, 248 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 2: you guys kept it a secret, like you did you 249 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 2: and then you're entitled to that. Yeah, I don't need 250 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 2: to give you an apology for that, like you're titled 251 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: to however you want to process that. But it ended, 252 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 2: and everybody was kind of like, you know, the people 253 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: that celebrate you are like, I don't know. 254 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: No, I get it, I get it. I mean I 255 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 3: think that I think maybe her and I were just 256 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: a little timid because of how brutal things started with 257 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 3: the public. And you know, I again, she's incredible, She's 258 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 3: an incredible person. I wish her all good things in life, 259 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 3: and there's nothing bad to say. There's nothing bad about 260 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 3: how we ended it. We just ended up working out. 261 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 262 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 3: Yeah. 263 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: One of the things to transition here that I've always 264 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 2: found impressive with you and a few others, you guys 265 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 2: have a group of friends. Yeah, unlike any other season 266 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: of the show. I have friends for my season. Right, 267 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 2: there's a few ID name I'm not going to because 268 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: I would forget somebody and then I get in trouble 269 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 2: for it. But there's a few people I still keep 270 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: very close ties with. But your friendships from the show 271 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: are like best friends. They would I've interviewed some of them, 272 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 2: and they would fight for you with every word they say. 273 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, they they've got your back. What caused that? 274 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: Was it just right timing, right place, or what kind 275 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: of cultivated this friendship that we've never seen come out 276 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: of that seat? 277 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 3: Like one season, man, I I really just got lucky 278 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 3: with the group of the guys that I was with, 279 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 3: And I think being in that in in like a 280 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 3: little bubble season helped a lot. We just spent a 281 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 3: shit ton of time together where we weren't traveling, where 282 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: all we had to do was just talk. We saw 283 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 3: each other's true sides right off the bat, and I 284 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 3: mean those guys are you know, Justin and Andrew Trey 285 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 3: are my brothers. I mean, yeah, Andrew and I have 286 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 3: helped me through rough times now in life. They've seen 287 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 3: me through many seasons of my life now and I 288 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 3: consider them family at this point. 289 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 4: I feel it, man. 290 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 2: I mean, I know you probably don't actively listening to 291 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 2: the almost of his podcast, but. 292 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 3: Listened to a few episodes. 293 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: Thank you, buddy. Yeah, it means a lot to me. 294 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: You know, wear you're wearing our brand new issue. 295 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 4: Listen to some. 296 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 2: But I would say interviewing those guys, especially a few 297 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 2: months ago when we're in Beverly Hills, like they would. 298 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 4: Fight for you. 299 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. 300 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 2: They've got every like every word they say, has your bag? 301 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 4: So you're now single? 302 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to be one of the most eligible 303 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 2: bachelors in New York City. That sweet, You haven't dated 304 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 2: in seven months? What is outside of romance or even 305 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 2: inside of romance? 306 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: Like? 307 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 4: What is life? What are you hopeful for moving forward? 308 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 3: You know, I think family is the most important thing 309 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 3: to me, and I'm hopeful that I'm going to find 310 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 3: a person soon enough. In the next hopefully within three years. 311 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 3: I'm hoping. I'm like giving myself a realistic timetable, and 312 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 3: i'd like to buy a house, and i'd like to 313 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 3: start settling down at some point in my life and 314 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 3: start building roots. And yeah, I mean that's kind of 315 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 3: like where my mindset is. I'm not putting any rush 316 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 3: on it. I'm not really going to put a you know, 317 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 3: a strict timeline on it. But at the moment, I'm 318 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 3: content with being alone and i'd rather and I'd rather 319 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 3: continue to work on myself than rush into anything. And 320 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 3: I'm just at a good spot in my life. And 321 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 3: you know, I've been traveling a lot with Andrew, been 322 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 3: working a lot with him, and uh, I'm just excited 323 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 3: for the next step. Whenever that is. I feel like 324 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 3: it's going to come unexpectedly, so we'll see. Now. 325 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: Final question, you've gone through the Bachelor world, You've gone 326 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: through a relationship outside of that world, but still kind 327 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: of in it. Like, what are you looking for in 328 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 2: in your partner? I mean for me and I'll and 329 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 2: I'll give you a little buffer here, Like I learned 330 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 2: a lot from my failed relationship from the show on 331 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: what I was looking for when it comes to my 332 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: partner for life just you know, not because anybody was bad, 333 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: It was just because we're different. 334 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 335 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: But what do you now, like what characteristics stand out 336 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 2: to you in this next partner of yours? 337 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 3: Hm hmm, characteristics of my next partner? I you know, 338 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 3: I think, and this is not a knock on any 339 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: of my past relationships about what they were lacking at all. 340 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 3: I think. You know, what's important to me is that 341 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 3: there's gonna be changes in life no matter what. You know, 342 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 3: Seeing like how my brother is with his wife, and 343 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 3: like seeing seeing the examples of my life my sisters 344 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 3: who are they're married to. Things don't always work out 345 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 3: as planned. And all I want is just to be 346 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 3: with someone where you know that that person is going 347 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 3: to have your back no matter what, no matter what 348 00:16:56,040 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 3: obstacles come come in throughout life, just that trust into someone. 349 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: It's incredible when you find it, man, Yeah it is. 350 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: It's a whole different world. Yeah, it changes everything. 351 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 4: Great. 352 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 2: Thanks for sitting down, Thanks for being the hot seat. 353 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: Of course, we really appreciate it. Thanks for being here. 354 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 2: Can't wait to golf with the Mark. I can't wait 355 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 2: to hang outside for Its great to meet you in 356 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 2: person yep. Likewise, cheers, Buddy, Cheers. 357 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on iHeartRadio, 358 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.