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Speaker 1: Andre Martinez in Real life podcast. This episode and conversation

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Speaker 1: is powered by I do say. Hey guys, we are back,

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Speaker 1: told you we'd be back today. We're on a roll.

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Speaker 1: This is what you call a podcast role, Brittany. We're

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Speaker 1: in a vibe. We're in a vibe. We're really not

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Speaker 1: used to doing podcasts back to back, two days in

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Speaker 1: a row. Um. But yes, if you missed the taragi

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Speaker 1: Um follow up that went up yesterday, you can check

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Speaker 1: that out. We just posted that yesterday. Today we are

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Speaker 1: going to discuss this JT episode which off top I

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Speaker 1: feel like the biggest clip um that I keep seeing

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Speaker 1: all over my timeline and I think people resonated to

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Speaker 1: talks about beating herself up. Yeah, beating herself up, and

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Speaker 1: she's saying that she doesn't want to do that anymore.

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Speaker 1: Play for you real quick. We've all pleased. I do

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Speaker 1: want you to play, but have I not We're not

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Speaker 1: all Can we not all understand? And does this not

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Speaker 1: clip resonate with everybody with us? Do you do you

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Speaker 1: beat yourself up? Absolutely? I'm deaf only queen overcritical. Someone

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Speaker 1: else could tell me you did a great job, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, but X, Y and Z could have

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Speaker 1: been a little bit better. I could have been different.

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Speaker 1: I think we are um, like we have to put

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Speaker 1: high expectations on ourselves and we have a vision. So

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Speaker 1: sometimes if it's not executed all the way, we have

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Speaker 1: this like, oh, I could have been greater. But she's

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Speaker 1: talking about is different. I think she's talking about like

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Speaker 1: you ain't shit, like the conversation that we have with ourselves.

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Speaker 1: What's wrong with you? Why did you do that? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've I've been there. Um, I don't know. That's what

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Speaker 1: I got. And we play the clip. Let's see what

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Speaker 1: everybody feels. Some days, I beat myself up on my

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Speaker 1: own worst enemy. I beat myself down, down, down to

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Speaker 1: the ground, from every aspect. I just wake up beating

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Speaker 1: myself down, and I'm tired of it. Like I don't

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Speaker 1: want to keep waking up beating myself down. I'm so beautiful, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm all at. It's like, girl, be all at?

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Speaker 1: Why you gotta wake up this morning and tell yourself

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Speaker 1: all you're all at? Like just be all it, don't

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Speaker 1: be scared to be all it. Don't worry about if something, Man,

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Speaker 1: it's about to happen. Just be all that today. If

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Speaker 1: he's something, man, it happens tomorrow, you deal with it tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Don't deal with it today. Just be all it today.

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Speaker 1: Do not be afraid to be all it today. I

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Speaker 1: love that clip because I love how she goes through

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Speaker 1: the whole thing about you know, the negative things that

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Speaker 1: she tells herself, but the way she ends it's, um,

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Speaker 1: it's just sassy and cute, and the version that you

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Speaker 1: would think she feels all the time because she's so

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Speaker 1: city girl. She's like, you know, I'm fly, I'm this,

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Speaker 1: I'm that. She's always you know, she's popping that. Well.

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Speaker 1: She talked that she's supposed to talk as a young

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Speaker 1: female rapper, but the fact that she could be so

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Speaker 1: I don't always feel like that, and this is what

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Speaker 1: it is. I think that's why people so many people

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Speaker 1: like that clip. But there are a lot of great moments.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Nyla Simone just joined us here. First

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Speaker 1: of all, before anything, my number one takeaway from this

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Speaker 1: loved her, brit you know, Miami girl, I love me

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Speaker 1: some City Girl. When we first got that DM, she

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Speaker 1: said she wanted to do the show. I was like, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

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Speaker 1: It was way excited, um, but I for sure fell

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Speaker 1: in love with her um spending this time with her

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Speaker 1: and during this episode, I'm just so happy she felt

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Speaker 1: It's funny because I feel like we know each other now.

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Speaker 1: I feel like she could call me at any time.

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Speaker 1: to I could not talk to her for six months,

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Speaker 1: but when I see her, we have already established an

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Speaker 1: persona than what I like, savorite personality. Not thought of

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Speaker 1: her that you've seen of her, or that you thought

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Speaker 1: of her that I thought of her, just based off

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Speaker 1: Twitter more so. Yeah, it was on Twitter. She's snapping

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Speaker 1: it and honestly, the person that she sat back at,

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Speaker 1: I just was like, why is Jat doing that? She's

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Speaker 1: Why more? Yeah? Because because like, if you've been through

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Speaker 1: soft to survive that, you have to be hard. You

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Speaker 1: scamming and trying to survive and trying to make something

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Speaker 1: some of that trauma pokes his head out every time

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Speaker 1: somebody what she feels when they come at her. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that's the beauty of talking and conversation and

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Speaker 1: really getting to know people, because we judge people, right,

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Speaker 1: We judge people based on their actions or one action

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Speaker 1: that we see on a social media platform or roll

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Speaker 1: of the eye. We saw them give somebody, but you

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Speaker 1: don't know what they've been through to get there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: touched by that. Well she called it, she said, this

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Speaker 1: give people grace in real life. Thanks man. You know

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Speaker 1: who gives people grace? JT? You know who she gave

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Speaker 1: grace to? Who her mother? Can we please run that

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Speaker 1: This is JT talking about. This is definitely one of

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Speaker 1: the takeaways I loved. And by the way, shout out

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Speaker 1: I love that you're just we get we get a

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Speaker 1: and he said, Uh, trauma is um it's just unmonetized content. Wow, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was so funny because the thing when

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Speaker 1: Kelly Rowland. We should absolutely do a follow up on

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Speaker 1: her episode back to JT by the way. She also

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