1 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: As a guide and hunter, I've spent thousands of days 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics they'll get you closer 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren. 5 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: This is Cutting the Distance. Welcome back to the podcast. Everyone. 6 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: On this week's podcast, I left last week's Q and 7 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: a kind of a cliffhanger. The question was asking and 8 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: talking about how and where do you set up a 9 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: camp when you're out cutting. It's a question that I 10 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: got asked, probably more than most things like where do 11 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: I camp? You know, or you say you spot some 12 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: milk in the night before in the basin? Where should 13 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: I set up my tent, or where's the most strategic 14 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: place to stay? How will I know that I'm not 15 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: going to be blowing elk out when I'm camping. I 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: constantly received these kind of questions. So on this week's podcast, 17 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna break down everything you'll need to know about 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: hunting camp locations, the types of camps, location options, and 19 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: how to assess a camp spot based on some key factors. 20 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: But before we do that, I want to share the 21 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: story of a deer hunt and what I called a 22 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: punishment hike back to camp. On this particular hunt, it 23 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 1: was an early season archery mule deer hunt. My buddy 24 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: Mike and I had applied as a party. I think 25 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: my brother Jason also is in a party with us now. 26 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: When it comes to the mule dear, I get fairly 27 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: picky on the type of deer I want to shoot. 28 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: I like to go out. I like, if I've got 29 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: a lot of time, I like to hunt for a 30 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: really big buck. And this particular year, I had quite 31 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: a bit of time before guiding to go out and 32 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: hunt for myself. So Mike's work schedule didn't really allow 33 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: him to go out at the beginning of the season. 34 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: So I went out to the area and just started 35 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: hunting solo, and then he was going to join me 36 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: um when he got some time off work. So I 37 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: was about the first I don't know, maybe seven or 38 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: ten days. I was hunting by myself and hunting really hard, 39 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: but I just did not see a buck that I 40 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: wanted to stock. I had hunted like the entire week 41 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: and not really put on a stock on anything because 42 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: I was seeing a lot of deer, but just nothing 43 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: of the caliber that I had seen in that area before. Now, 44 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: this area was kind of like had varying train but 45 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: fairly high altitude. You could go up to over twelve 46 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: thousand feet in the valley floor is probably around five 47 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: to seven thousand feet, and kind of hunting in this 48 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: mid range of that seven to eight thousand feet. But 49 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: there was a backcountry area that I wanted to explore, 50 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: but I figured i'd wait till I wasn't sure exactly 51 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: what day Mike was going to come in, because if 52 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: he could get off work early, he would come in early. 53 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: So I figured I'd hunt stuff that I liked to hunt, 54 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: and then when he came in, we could then both 55 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: pack into the wilderness and check out some other spots. 56 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: So Mike gets into camp and uh, we hunt around. 57 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: I show him a few of the deer that I 58 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: had seen, and and just you know, it was like, 59 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: I have we found anything that I want to stalk? 60 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: So he's like, well, let's go into the world. And 61 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, sweet, sounds good. So we packed 62 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: up our bags and started hiking in early the next morning. 63 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: It was a pretty good it's a pretty good climb 64 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: in there. I think we started probably around seven thousand 65 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: feet elevation that is where we parked, and we hiked 66 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: up to over twelve thousand feet. So we hike up 67 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: over and go through this saddle, get on this pass, 68 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: and we start glassing for the evening and I'm glassing 69 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: kind of back down. We've got our plan is just 70 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: kind of like bivvy sacks, so we've got all of 71 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: our food, our camp everything with us, and we're just 72 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: gonna camp as we go. The first night, we were 73 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: planning on camping in the saddle because it's a pretty 74 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: good haul up there, and then we could start hunting 75 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: our way into some of the back basins that are 76 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: really far back there and you can't really access. So 77 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: as we get up, we're hiking up and before we 78 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: set up camp, we're like, I'm like, okay, let's go 79 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: glass off into the these couple areas. We go back 80 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: and I'm glassing kind of back down where we came from, 81 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: and halfway up the mountain there's a group of five 82 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: deer and I'm like, there's a pretty good bucket there. 83 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: There's definitely one that I would stock. I've hunted over 84 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: a week and not seeing a deer, I would sneak on. 85 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: It was a pretty solid big four by four in 86 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: there like one plus. I was like, that's the best 87 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: deer I've seen so far. I'll definitely stock that deer. 88 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, let's go get him. So I'm like, okay, sweet. 89 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: So we dropped down off the ridge and we had 90 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: to lose a lot of elevation. We hiked up over 91 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 1: five thousand feet gain, and now we're dropping back down 92 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: like another i don't know, two thousand feet maybe a 93 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: little more. So we dropped down in. What I noticed 94 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: is the deer kind of on this ridge, and I'm 95 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: looking at the way they're gonna feed him, like, oh, 96 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: they're definitely gonna feed into the wind. And there's this 97 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: kind of like cliffy not really a cliff, but like 98 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: this little um. You could see a pretty good trail 99 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: that they were near, and like a finger ridge going 100 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: down and a pretty good like rock pile brush kind 101 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: of thing in between that trail and the deer. So 102 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: we're moving down. We're moving now and kind of keep 103 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: we can keep them in sight and drop back over 104 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: the other side of the ridge move in. We stopped 105 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: it about a hundred and fifty yards and I'm like 106 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: all right, drop my pack here and sneak in. It's 107 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: like sweet. I was like, okay, Mike, stay right here, 108 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: don't move. I'm gonna go down. I'm just gonna set 109 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: up because like they're feeding up perfect. I bet you 110 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: they just feed right along that trail and I'll have 111 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: a sweet shot. He's like okay. I was like, all right, 112 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: just stay here, stay with the gear. I'll come back. 113 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: He's like okay. So I start sneaking down, take off 114 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: my shoes, like creeping in on the back side of 115 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: the ridge. They're completely obscured from where I'm at. The 116 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: wind's really good, and I'm a little bit worried that 117 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: the wind might shift as the evening goes on, but 118 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: I think I'll be fine. So the winds actually really strong, 119 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: so I don't think thermals are gonna mess with me. 120 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, sweet, this is perfect. I creep down and 121 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: as I'm creeping on, like ranging this part where I 122 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: think they're gonna cross, I get like fifty yards creep 123 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: a little bit closer. I kind of peek over the 124 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: out ridge and see the deer on the other side, 125 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: maybe like ninety yards down, and they're still feeding my 126 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: way and I noticed there's like I think there's like 127 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: six of them, and and mo like I can only 128 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: I can see the big buck and like to the 129 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: other bucks. And the big buck was in the back, 130 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: and then the other deer disappeared behind this little ledge. 131 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, this is perfect. So I sneak 132 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: in a little bit more like being super quiet, super careful. 133 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: It's steep, it's rocky, it's alloud, and I'm just placing 134 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: every foot so carefully, and I get down and range 135 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: where they're going to cross, like thirty four yards. Sweet 136 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: set up knocking arrow and I'm just waiting, and sure 137 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: enough I start to see velvet tips coming through. I'm like, okay, 138 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: buck walks out, one of the small bucks range him, boom, perfect, 139 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: he walks out and just keeps feeding. Next buck walks out, 140 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: and now those deer feeding at like forty fifty yards 141 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: as they moved through, and each one of these bucks 142 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: stopped at this little grass patch thirty four yards. Munch 143 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,799 Speaker 1: is a little bit a little bit of mountain mahat, 144 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: like a little bit of brush there, munches on it 145 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: and then cruises out a little bit and starts feeding it, 146 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: like forty something fifty whatever, next set of antler tips. Alright, 147 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: range it sweet, Okay. Now I'm just like I know 148 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: the range of everything, and all these deer taking the 149 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: exact same path, and I'm just sitting frozen waiting for 150 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: the big buck to come out. Another deer comes out, 151 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: another deer comes out, and I'm like, every single one 152 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: of these deer has taken the same path. This is 153 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: game time. As soon as I see his antler tips, 154 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna draw back and wait. So all those 155 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: deer come out and I'm like, all right, this is it. 156 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: I see the handler tips of the big Buck. I'm 157 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: just about getting ready to draw back. I'm like, there's 158 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: like one spot where I can see the only tips 159 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: and then they disappear, and I'm like then I could 160 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: see him again. So I'm like I've got it all 161 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: planned out. All the deer did the same thing. I'm 162 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: getting ready to draw and I hear something behind me, 163 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: just rock rolling, and I'm like it was loud, and 164 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, what all those other deer spooked out? The 165 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: big bucks spooks out. I draw back and they all 166 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: stop it an unknown range probably year, I just don't 167 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: even know, and that's it. My stocks blown. I'm like, 168 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: what the heck happened? I turned around, and about fifty 169 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: yards behind me is Mike just like ghost white with 170 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: this look on his face, like, oh man, I really 171 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: screwed that. And having like hunted really hard for about 172 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: ten or twelve days, I was just like, you've got 173 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: to be kidding me. This is the one year that 174 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: I saw that I would have shot. And he was 175 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: seconds away from getting an arrow run right through him, 176 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: and Mike just blew him out because he didn't stay put. 177 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: So I walk out. I'm like fairly ticked off, but 178 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, what the hell are you doing? Man? 179 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: And in his defense, he's the nicest guy. I mean, 180 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: that's why we're really he's just the nicest guy on 181 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: the planet. But he's like, oh, I didn't know what 182 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: was going on, so I thought I would come down 183 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: and help your range, just in case they were coming 184 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: out and you needed somebody to range in which case 185 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: that's a very nice offer. But I mean his life 186 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: was just like, dude, I told you to stay there, 187 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: and he's like I know, He's like I know, I'm 188 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: so sorry, and I was just like fairly piste off. 189 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, So we walk up to the packs 190 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, you know what, screw it. The 191 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: deer blown out here, and they were they blew out hard. 192 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: It's like the deer blown out of here. I was like, 193 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: I'm not as a crappy spot to camp. It's like 194 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: super steep. I'm just like, screw it, we're camping at 195 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: the top. I grabbed my pack and I just start 196 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: trudging up to the top of the mountain. So we're 197 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: hiking another like two thousand vertical feet up one of 198 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: the steepest parts of the mountain just to can't find 199 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: a flat spot to camp. Not that we couldn't have 200 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: found a spot down there, but I was like, no, 201 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: you know what, you blow the stock, you make the walk. 202 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: So like we just like I just like start hammering 203 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: up the mountain as fast as I can go. And 204 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: Mike's got his pack on it, and i can see 205 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: he's just falling behind, falling behind, and I'm sure that 206 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: it's just eating him up, and I'm like, no, he's 207 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: gonna wallow in it when he walks. So I get 208 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: up to the top and I sit down and have 209 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: a break, and I think about it. I'm like no, 210 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: you know what, Mike's like your best friend, and that's 211 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: just a terrible punish man. But he probably feels bad 212 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: enough blowing it. So I looked down and he's still 213 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: a long way. He's down the mountain, and so I 214 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: think to myself, well, I gotta make it right. So 215 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: I hike back down the mountain, maybe another thousand feet 216 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, and he's dying. He's like he's struggling. 217 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: He's on the struggle bus, like he just came in 218 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: from lower elevation and this is like charging up the mountain. 219 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: And I've been living there for like a while, and 220 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: so the elevation didn't really bother me at all. So 221 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right. I was like, Mike, give me 222 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: your pack. He's like, no, can't I let you do that. 223 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: I was like, Mike, give me your pack. I chose 224 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: the camp spot, I dropped the pack. I made his 225 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: trudge up here. I'll carry your pack the rest of 226 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 1: the way, and begrudgingly he did it, but the hike 227 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: was still pretty bad. We got up and we just 228 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: rolled out her baby sacks and made a nice dinner 229 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: and just laughed. He was just laughing. He's like oh man, 230 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: that was punishment. He's like, I get it, I get it. 231 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: I won't do that again. And to this day we 232 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: still laugh about that story when Mike decided to sneak 233 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: in on the bucks, blew him out and went on 234 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: a punishment hike back to camp. I honestly think if 235 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: I had a dollar for every time someone asked me 236 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: where to camp, I would have a very sizable collection 237 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: of dollars. I'm not saying I have a million dollars, 238 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: but I would have a lot of dollars. Uh. I 239 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: think for the most part, I really didn't think too 240 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: hard about that question, because for myself, it just seemed 241 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: like you just it was so situational and and really 242 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: I didn't I don't really think about it too much. 243 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,599 Speaker 1: And then when I really did start to think about it, 244 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 1: the answer kind of became extremely complicated because there's no 245 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: set answer and it depends on a ton of factors. 246 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: So I figured I cover most of the things that 247 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: involve camp selection, and then that way you can be 248 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: your own expert, and when you encounter a scenario or something, 249 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: then you kind of know, okay, this is the right 250 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: move to make. And I really think that this is 251 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: primarily a question from people who this is their first 252 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: time this type of trip, and it makes sense you go, like, Okay, 253 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: I get out there, like I see some elk, Where 254 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: do I do? I do I hike back three miles 255 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: and set up a camp? Do I? How close is 256 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: too close? How far is too far? So I just 257 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: want to cover kind of uh an intro to to 258 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: setting up camp, but also kind of some of my 259 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: thoughts and things that I do when I am setting 260 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: up a camp or a base camp. But before we 261 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: do that, I say that there, I mean, there's so 262 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: many hunts myself that I've gone on and I've had 263 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: a pretty subpar camp, and then there's others where I 264 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: just go back to that spot to hang out camp 265 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: for the weekend. But before I really get too deep 266 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: into the types of camps, I think we kind of 267 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: need to go over camp definitions. So let's first talk 268 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: about the places that you might camp. I broke I 269 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 1: would break that out into two sections. So either front country, 270 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: so I like to call that like this is anything 271 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: you can access by a road or vehicle, So it 272 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: could be a four wheeler, could be a truck whatever. 273 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: That's the front country. And then The second would be 274 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: the back country, so anything that you'd have to non 275 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: motorized to walk, ride bike. It could be off of 276 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: a gated logging road, it could be whatever, but it's 277 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: just a type of camp where you can't bring your vehicle. 278 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: Aside from that, a few other camping terms you should 279 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: know are like the types of camps. So the first 280 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: one would be a base camp, and this kind of 281 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: the definition of that would be your main camp. This 282 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: could be a large camp, but um, it doesn't have 283 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: to be a base camp. Is really the way I 284 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: define it is just a camp that really doesn't rove 285 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: very often. It's kind of in one place. You set 286 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: it up at the beginning of the hunt and you 287 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: take it down at the end. It's kind of where 288 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: you base your hunt's out of or from now. This 289 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: might mean that you hunt out of it every day, 290 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: or it might mean that you leave and kind of 291 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: keep it set up and camp somewhere else. With the 292 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: next type of camp, which I would call a spike camp. 293 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: This is often a smaller type camp and can be 294 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: out of a base camp, but it's it's lighter. You're 295 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: often going deeper and probably more into that back country. 296 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: You can definitely have a base camp in the back country. 297 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: You can definitely make a lighter set up a base camp, 298 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: but that spike camp would be kind of any kind 299 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: of camping out from that base camp where you may 300 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: stay a few days in one spot and then pack 301 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: up and move somewhere else. Um, so it's a little 302 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: bit more mobile. And then the third type of camp 303 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: would be like a bivvy camp. This is what I 304 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: would consider like a lightweight camp. It's carried around every 305 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: day and then re pitched every night where you stop. 306 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: So if you're baby hunting, you're kind of like camps 307 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: always on your back and wherever you are at the 308 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: end of the day or wherever you find or wherever 309 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: you end up, that's kind of where you're setting up camp. 310 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: I would say I do a mixture of all these 311 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: types of camps. I think the size also varies depending 312 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: on the type of camp. So like a large base 313 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: camp could be extremely sizeable. You might have a trailer, 314 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: a wall tent, a truck bed, or even like a 315 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: small pop up tent. I mean, it doesn't necessarily have 316 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: to be a large camp, but it's somewhere it's like, hey, 317 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: this is a good spot. Maybe you found like a 318 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: sweet camping area, a campsite um, maybe something near river 319 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: or whatever. Maybe it's just got like, hey, there's some 320 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: fishing here near a lake. So you set up a 321 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: good base camp and it's generally gonna be for good 322 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: duration but also gives you access to a lot of 323 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: areas to hunt. And then that spike camp is often smaller, lighter, 324 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: and used to get into an area that I would 325 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: say like um set up and hunts maybe a little 326 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: bit deeper. So it's like I would do that, and 327 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: this is probably the common type of of back country camp. 328 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: It's fairly light. You might hike in one to five 329 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: miles whatever, set up a camp, and then hunt out 330 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: of that camp. So it's like a spike campaign a 331 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: base camp all in one, and then that baby camp 332 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: that real light one. I mean there's been times where 333 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: I've essentially started out in a base camp, camping out 334 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: of my truck, spiked in with a lightweight set up, 335 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: and then from that lightweight set up, busied out with 336 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: just like my sleeping bag and a tarp and gone 337 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: out and explored some new areas. And this is gonna 338 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: be your lightest set up. It's super mobile and always 339 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: back country. I would say that every hunt, where you 340 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: camp and how you camp depends on the type of 341 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: hunt in the area. So we need to kind of 342 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: break down what makes a good camping spot in general. 343 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: And here's what I look for when I'm camping where 344 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: things that I think are kind of at the top 345 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: of the list. Water, shelter, access to the hunt area 346 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: is super important, and then flat spot if possible. That's 347 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: always like the cherry on the top. If you can, 348 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: if you can camp somewhere flat sweet because it just 349 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: makes for an easier night of sleep. In back country, 350 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: I like to camp where I can easily get water, 351 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: but there's always this balance of that and then access 352 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: to the hunt area. So one nice thing about camping 353 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: near water is these are things that you need in 354 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: I mean not only just survive, but to be successful. 355 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: To hunt hard, you you're gonna have to have water, 356 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: and water is super heavy to carry. If you can 357 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: have it ner camp, it makes it easier for cooking, 358 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: it makes it easier for filling your water bottles for 359 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: the day, It makes it easier to drink at the 360 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: end of the day. Now, I say that that's a 361 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: balance between access to the hunt area because many times, 362 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: like let's say that early season deer hunt that I 363 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: was talking about before, most of the deer we're living 364 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: up at the high elevation, but the water was two 365 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: thousand feet below the top and the basins where the 366 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: deer were living. So in that case, okay, do I 367 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: hike down every day to get water or just fill 368 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: up a lot of water, hike up to the top, 369 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: camp for a couple of days, and then when I 370 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: need water or maybe find a new water source up 371 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: at the top somewhere that I didn't know about, and 372 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: if not, hike down and then hike back up with 373 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: the water. And that's kind of one of those things 374 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: where you can balance that where you aren't carrying so 375 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: much water if you camp near water, so you're saving 376 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: a lot of energy. Um. But then there's other times 377 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: where it's like, hey, I need to get to this, 378 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: Like it's better for me to be up glassing in 379 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: the morning. I get to this glassing knob every day. 380 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: Maybe I can camp there and then have better access 381 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: to the ridge behind and maybe find some water somewhere else. 382 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: But for the most part, camping near water helps in 383 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: a lot of ways. For weight carrying, weight savings, and 384 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: just it's something that you need. You need it for cooking, 385 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: you need it for drinking. So I like to plan 386 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: my camp spots based on that where I can get water, 387 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: and if I'm doing that ahead of time, I try 388 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: to find, Okay, here's a stream, here's a creek, maybe 389 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: here's a spring. I don't I won't camp like on 390 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: a spring, especially if it's something the animals are using. 391 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: I definitely stay away from that. But camping where there's 392 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: a little bit of water water nearby is definitely a 393 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: plus or of bonus. Another option to in the back 394 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 1: country is a lot of times, like if it's um 395 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: earlier in the season, why you're camping towards snow line 396 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: or snow melt, like, you can use that snow to 397 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: make water. So that's that's another option. Now. Shelter One 398 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: thing I think of shelter in a couple of ways. 399 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: One is kind of trying to get out of the wind. 400 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: It does a lot of good to be able to 401 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: get your camp out of the wind. It makes it 402 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: easier to sleep when that tense flapping and just ripping 403 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: and kind of terrible. It makes for a hard night's sleep, 404 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: and if you don't get a lot of sleep, then 405 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: you kind of lose that energy. You get tired in 406 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: the middle of the day, and some of those midday glassing, 407 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: the times that you could be hunting, um you you 408 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: end up dozing off. There's like I mean, I don't 409 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: know how many times I've been on a hunt. It's 410 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: like you wake up, you get ready. By the best 411 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: glassing times, you're like nodding off in your binoculars and 412 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: you're in a sharp So having good night's sleep is awesome, 413 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: but getting out of the wind makes that a lot 414 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: more possible. Now, another factor of shelter is not just 415 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: getting out of the wind, if possible, that kind of 416 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: concealing yourself, concealing yourself from the animals that might be around, 417 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: and sheltering yourself from the elements, but also from an 418 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: area where the deer elk, whatever it might be. So 419 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 1: tucking in and and getting a good spot one thing 420 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: that I think about too, when I'm picking a camp spot, 421 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: I like to think of it like, okay, shelter, but 422 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,959 Speaker 1: I also want to watch out for danger. So I 423 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: don't like to camp where there might be things like 424 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: trees that could fall from sheltering and protecting myself from 425 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: stuff like that. So many times, if it's like a 426 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: burn area, I will camp as far away from trees 427 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: as possible, or an area where trees can't fall over. Actually, 428 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: last year I was setting up a camp and as 429 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: I'm setting it up, I'm like, Okay, i gotta find 430 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: a spot where there are no dead trees, which was 431 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: nearly impossible. And as I'm setting up camp, trees are 432 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,959 Speaker 1: just falling all over the place because the wind was blowing. 433 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: So I ended up cutting down a couple of the 434 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: trees that could have potentially fallen in my direction and 435 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: slept a lot a lot better. But it's always good 436 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: to find um, you know, figure out where the prevailing 437 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: wind is, pick a spot it's out of the wind, 438 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: in a little sheltered spot, and it's going to be 439 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: a lot better camp spot. And then of course the 440 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: bonus of all bonuses flat. It's very hard to set 441 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: a tent in camp for a prolonged period of time 442 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: on a steep hillside. I've done it, I don't like 443 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: to do it. There's been times like Mountain Goat Hunt 444 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 1: last two years ago, we were just babysack hunting but 445 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: we were like at the dark by, We're gonna stop 446 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: and find a camp and then we couldn't find a 447 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: spot that was protected, sheltered out of the wind or flat, 448 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,239 Speaker 1: and it made for a rough night of sleeping with 449 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: just the wind ripping and sliding all over the place. 450 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: So if you can find those things, that's those are 451 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: things that make a good camp spot. Now we also 452 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: have the considerations of the type of hunt you're doing. 453 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: So one thing I would think is like, Okay, am 454 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: I doing a back country hunt? Am I doing a 455 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:49,719 Speaker 1: front country hunt? What is the optimal camping scenario or 456 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: where how close to where I'm going to hunt? I 457 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: want to be camping. If I'm hunting the front country, 458 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: I want to be camping more in an area where 459 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: I can easily get to the places that I'm gonna 460 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: want to hunt are places that I'm gonna want to 461 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: check out, but far enough away where you know, I 462 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: might have access to a few different areas. I'm picking 463 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: my spot more based on access and a nice camp 464 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: spot than somewhere that's just like convenient. Now, if I'm 465 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: like the back country, I kind of pick a spot 466 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: that's more convenient closer to where maybe I'm gonna be 467 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: hunting and a little bit more based on like the 468 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: area that I get into, because I've got everything on 469 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: my back, I'm hiking around and I might find kind 470 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: of a good spot and where the animals are simultaneously, 471 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: and I kind of picked my camp spot based on that. 472 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: Now there's gonna be some hunting consideration. So those hunting 473 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: considerations are kind of the question that a lot of 474 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: people get into is well, how far from the animals? 475 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: How how close is too close? So let's just call 476 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: it a back country scenario. How close is too close? Well, 477 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: first you have to use your judgment, But I've honestly 478 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,479 Speaker 1: camped as close as a few hundred yards from places 479 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: where I've seen elk and deer, and then as far 480 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: as a mile. Um, it just really doesn't depend on 481 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: one factor. But I would say the first thing you 482 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: want to think about is what type of camping are 483 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: you doing? And that's gonna kind of tell you how 484 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: close the camp that you're gonna have. Now, if you're 485 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: gonna have a big base camp, maybe you've got like 486 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: a bunch of friends, You're gonna you want to have 487 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: a fire, you want to be you know, hang out 488 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: at night, cooking dinners, talking all that kind of stuff, 489 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: making noise, enjoying yourself. I'm not saying you can't enjoy 490 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: yourself with no noise, but in those scenarios, I just 491 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 1: pick an area that's a ways away from where I'm 492 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: gonna hunt and travel to the hunting area. When I 493 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: do that, I just pick a spot that's a nice camp, 494 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: a nice flat spot near water. How's the things that 495 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: I like make it a comfortable camp, and then go 496 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: out from there every day. Because that noise and that 497 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: that activity and maybe maybe people going back to camp 498 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: to cook up lunch or whatever. That kind of stuff 499 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: will cause pressure in the area if you're too close. 500 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 1: So for the most part that kind of camping, I 501 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: just do where it's convenient to get to multiple areas. 502 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: And if I'm gonna hike in a long way as well, 503 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: maybe it's somewhere am I all down the road. It 504 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. I can drive, I can plan my 505 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: hunt accordingly, I can leave it with enough time to 506 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: get into where I wanted to go, and then I 507 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: have a nice, comfortable camp with friends and hang out, 508 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: have a fire, have whatever. And it's not necessarily in 509 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: the hunting area. I've seen people set up that kind 510 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: of camp though, like wall tent right near the meadow 511 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,719 Speaker 1: where elk are coming out, and for the first day 512 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: of the elks still might come out, but after that 513 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: it kind of puts a damper on the hunting area. 514 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: So I would say it depends on the type of 515 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: camp you want to do. Now, if you're doing like 516 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: a babysack kind of camp, you've got um, you're gonna 517 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: run a quiet camp, which is what I like to do, 518 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: no talkie, no talkie mostly so solo. It's the easiest. 519 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: But you've got maybe just a MSR stove, jet boil whatever. 520 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: You're doing a dehydrated meal, and you're just gonna be quiet. 521 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: You're just setting up your tent and the quiet. You 522 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: aren't making a lot of noise. You are not having 523 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: a fire. I mean not that a fire necessarily would 524 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: spook things, but it's just like that disturbance that gathering 525 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: the wood to doing all the stuff. You're just setting 526 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:03,959 Speaker 1: up a camp, you're finding a place to sleep, you're 527 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: gonna eat a meal, you're gonna get up, and you're 528 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: gonna hunt. If that's the case, essentially you can pick 529 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: a spot that would be no different than where you 530 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: would be glassing from and not disturb the animals. I 531 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't go within sneaking zone. I wouldn't set my tent 532 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: up hoping to open it up and shoot something from it. 533 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: But it's like, hey, there's many times where I've ducked 534 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: on the back side of a little glassing knob, or 535 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: I've stopped and been glassing and said, Okay, I'm gonna 536 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: camp from here. One thing that I will say is, 537 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: you know that distance doesn't necessarily like there's no hard 538 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: and fast distance. Let's say I've seen elk coming out 539 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: in this one meadow feeding every night. I get up 540 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: and I've got a glassing vantage, uh say four hundred 541 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: yards away whatever. I wouldn't just camp right on that 542 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: glassing vantage, because I wouldn't stand on that glassing vantage 543 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: while I'm standing. But I would tuck back in the 544 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: trees right there, set up a camp, be quiet and 545 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: not think twice about it, or even set up a 546 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: camp that maybe is in a baby camp, just like 547 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: a spike type camp that I'm gonna leave and know 548 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: that it will be fine. But I'm not really like 549 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: putting a lot of um I'm really not doing a 550 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: lot around there. I'm just sleeping, making a simple meal 551 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: and waking up and starting to hunt. I'd say how 552 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: close to camp to the animals also really depends on 553 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: hunting pressure and the animal's location and movement, and then 554 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: the wind as well. So I obviously don't want to 555 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: camp somewhere where the wind is going to be blowing 556 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 1: into where I think the elk are. I want to 557 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: pick a spot that's down wind, just like I mean 558 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: common hunting sense, being like if I wouldn't go there 559 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: during a stock, if I wouldn't go there during glassing, 560 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: if it's something that I wouldn't do throughout the day, 561 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: I won't do it throughout the night. I'll move out 562 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: to a spot where I would be comfortable standing up, 563 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: where I would be comfortable, you know, staying for a 564 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: prolonged period time, where I'm not going to get winded. 565 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: So I generally like to find those places that are 566 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: out of the way, down wind and not necessarily going 567 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: to impede the patterns of the animals I'm hunting. But 568 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily mean it needs to be miles away. 569 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: And like I said, how close I can't might depend 570 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: on the hunting pressure. Sometimes, if there's a lot to 571 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: hunting pressure, I actually prefer to kind of camp close 572 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: to where I'm hunting, because then people go, oh, somebody's 573 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: camping here maybe, and then they move on. Um. There 574 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: is also that thought of though, if there's a lot 575 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: of hunting pressure there's animals might get pressure and running 576 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 1: into that camp or having that camp there as their 577 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: patterns start to shift and change might cause them to 578 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: no longer use that area. So that's just one of 579 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: those things. It's very situational, and you kind of got 580 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 1: to decide, Okay, if I'm camping a mile away and 581 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: every day guys like past my camp and are up 582 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: kind of in my area before I get there, maybe 583 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: just move your camp a little bit closer so they think, Okay, well, 584 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: he's hunting this basin, not that next basin that was 585 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 1: back there, that other base in to the left. It 586 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: might just be an easier way to kind of claim 587 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: a spot. But I definitely wouldn't get too aggressive with that. 588 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: In areas that are there's more hunting pressure, I'd be 589 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: more cautious of where I camp and not spooking something. 590 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: In areas that get a lot of pressure than areas 591 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: that don't um. If you're in a back country setting 592 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: and it's like, hey, there's no one else back there, 593 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: there's not gonna be those animals are very unpressured. You 594 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: can oftentimes get away with kind of camping closer. One 595 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: thing that I have found generally I like to hike 596 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: up to hunt and down to pack, so I find 597 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 1: it easier, but it's it's not always the best. But 598 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: when you camp in the bottoms, like let's say I'm 599 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: hunting this basin instead of hunting like camping up on 600 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: the ridge on the top, unless I've got a good 601 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: glassing vantage and the wind is good for that, I'd 602 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: probably just camp down in the bottom near the creek 603 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: where I've got shelter away from whatever animals might be 604 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: popping out. Where I'm hidden kind of in the trees, 605 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: I'm probably closer to find water, more cover options as well, 606 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: less wind disturbance, and generally that scent isn't going to 607 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: make it to the top of the mountains, so being 608 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: down in those canyons can be good. One thing I mentioned, 609 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: you know, you want to camp in your water if 610 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: you can, but you definitely don't want to camp on 611 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: springs or isolated water holes. You want to be at 612 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: least a quarter or a half a mile from something 613 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: that deer want to be using to drink. I just 614 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: like to give them a night. So a corner mile 615 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: isn't that far. It just depends on topography and other things. 616 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: In areas that it's like, very few water holes, very 617 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: few water services. In places where there's a running stream, 618 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily a big deal whether you can't fairly 619 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: close to it or not, because they have plenty of 620 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: places to water. I would say, like, if you're asking yourself, 621 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: am I too close? Is this a good camping spot? 622 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: I would say, just a good rule of thumb, like 623 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: worst case scenario, say seven hundred yards at the minimum 624 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: would be as close as you want to camp to 625 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: a good hunting area. But you know, if you're in 626 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: a spot you're gonna be a quiet camp. You can 627 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: bring that a lot closer. When I'm babysack hunting, I 628 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: generally just camp where I stopped, like I pull off 629 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: into like if I'm last year, for example, I was 630 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: hunting a new area, just through everything in my backpack, 631 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: hunting deer in a backcountry area I hiked in I 632 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: had to drop down in this long, big ravin the 633 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: first night, I just camped in the bottom. The next 634 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: day I start hiking up. I kind of run out 635 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: of water. I'm a very long way from the valley floor. 636 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to the top, and I just sleep mid mountain. 637 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: There was some deer out in this basin. I just 638 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: tucked back into the timber, set up a small camp, 639 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: tried to get out of the wind, slept, woke up, 640 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: and those deer were probably three yards above me in 641 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: the morning. They had no clue I was there. I 642 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: had no clue they were there. There's actually some bigger 643 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: bucks in there. I did a stock, almost got a shot, 644 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: got into like I think fifty yards um. It was 645 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: bad wind and just not a great cover option, and 646 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: there's a couple of deer looking my direction when I 647 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: drew back, but ended up not getting a deer there. 648 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: But it was like where I was camping had no 649 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: bearing on them getting spooked off or any of that. 650 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: They were just being deer and I just so happened 651 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: to kind of camp tucked back in the trees, just 652 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: on the back side of the basin that they're hanging out, 653 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: And it didn't really affect any of the hunting. Now, 654 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: had I set up like a big camp and me 655 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: and my buddies were hanging out there every night for 656 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: a week, it definitely would I would say, probably disturb 657 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: their patterns. But you just really have to use your 658 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: judgment narrow on the side of not spooking stuff. But 659 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: I honestly, when it comes to picking a camp spot, 660 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: I don't get too paranoid about it. I just I 661 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: don't think about it that much most of the time. 662 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: I just like tuck into the trees and treat it 663 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,959 Speaker 1: like if I were glassing or um. Sometimes we're like 664 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, this would not be convenient for a 665 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: spot and stock hunt. I wouldn't. I wouldn't approach from 666 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: this way, I wouldn't hang out here. Then I won't 667 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: camp there, and I might even hike a long ways 668 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: to find a spot where I would camp. And that's 669 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: that's the way that I think about picking a spot 670 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: to sleep, picking a spot to camp. And when I'm 671 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: setting up a camp, I like it to be in 672 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: a spot where it's convenient, where I can access the animals. 673 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: I prefer to hike. Start hiking up hill. It's nothing 674 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: to start hiking up. You know, you hike up every 675 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: morning you start hunting, You hunt up, and then it's 676 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: a lot easier to get back to camp in the evening, 677 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: is a lot faster and a lot better packing to 678 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: just start hiking down. So when I'm thinking about setting 679 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: up a camp, those are a lot of the factors 680 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: that I consider, And there are things that I think 681 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: as you get out there. I think it's one of 682 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: the things that I think people ask it because they're 683 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: nervous about doing the wrong thing. It's one of those 684 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: things once you start getting out there, you realize it 685 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily matter so much. The only way of matter 686 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: is if you camped, Like, if there's elk using a meadow, 687 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: don't camp in the middle of the meadow. If there's 688 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: elk using a water hole or a wallow, don't camp 689 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: near that. Find a spot that's tucked out of the 690 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: way but close enough to access the area. I mean, 691 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: there's been many times where I have glassed from where 692 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: I'm sleeping, and there's been a few hunts where I've 693 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: actually a goat hunt. A couple of years ago, when 694 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: we actually slept on that steep spot. We're making a 695 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: meal and I look up, there's a good band of 696 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: goats walking across the hill ninety yards above us um 697 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: that I've actually shot a moose while packing up our 698 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: camp one time, and there's been many times where I've 699 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: picked spots that I camp just a quiet camp, just 700 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: tucked away where I just essentially can glass from my 701 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: sleeping bag in the morning. That's the nice thing about 702 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: a backcountry style hunt is you actually get a lot 703 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: more sleep because you're kind of camping and hunting right 704 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: in the same area, Whereas if you're kind of front 705 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: country hunting, there's a lot more hiking involved. Some people 706 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: think that like, oh, back country hunting is the hardest, 707 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: and honestly, I think you cover more miles when you're 708 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: you've got like a big base camp out of the 709 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: back country because for the most part, once you get 710 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: into your area, you're there. You aren't moving a lot. 711 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: There might be some tough country, but for the most part, 712 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: you're kind of like glass and camping and right in 713 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: the zone where you want to be when you want 714 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: to be there at the best times, and you just 715 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: make a meal, go to sleep, wake up, and repeat, 716 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: where you don't have to start glassing and hiking so 717 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: far every day, So there's some pluses and minuses to that. 718 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: But I think when it comes to setting up a camp, 719 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: don't let it deterior, don't get afraid of it, don't 720 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: worry that you're doing the wrong thing. Just kind of 721 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: treat it like, Hey, I'm hunting these animals where it's 722 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: going to be a spot that I'm not going to 723 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,239 Speaker 1: spook them. And if along the way you find an 724 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: awesome place that looks nice, it's got a flat spot 725 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: with some water, some shades, some cover, feel free to 726 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: set up a camp and then start hunting from there. 727 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: I hope that helps a few of you. I know 728 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: that sometimes if you're doing something new, or maybe you 729 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,719 Speaker 1: got a tag and it's just a new thing for you, 730 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: you've never done a back country hunt. You've never actually 731 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: um gone somewhere else to hunt where you didn't need 732 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: to camp. Maybe most your hunts are based out of 733 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: your house or a cabin where you you know, family 734 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: has a cabin where you hunt or whatever. Um, this 735 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: might be all new concepts. So I appreciate these kind 736 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: of questions because it's the things that these kind of 737 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: questions that come in that I know Okay, people are 738 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: interested in understanding my thought process on this, and I 739 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 1: just want to help kind of check that off the list. 740 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: So anytime you guys have questions, feel free to keep 741 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 1: them coming my way at Remy Warren on social media 742 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: or Remy at the meat eater dot com. Social media 743 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: is probably the best way I can check that a 744 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: little bit more often. It's a little bit easier for me, 745 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: but whatever floats your boat. Um. I thank you guys 746 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: again for all the support, all the questions, and until 747 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: next week, don't pitch your tent on a red Aniel. 748 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: That's just a story for another time. Catch you guys later. 749 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: M