1 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast, 2 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: presented by Amazon Prime. 3 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 2: It's Sunday, June first. 4 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty five. Skis here in the Classic Factory and 5 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: alongside me as always task Mellis. 6 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 3: Basketball is so good right now, we're doing this on 7 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 3: a Sunday. 8 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: That's right next to him. It's the Bearded One, a 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: top shot boy, Trick Kirby Hey ooh, and last but 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: not least, making the magic happen. Turning on the mic, 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: super producer jd It's Sunday. 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 3: Hey, hey there there he is. 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: Hello out everybody on YouTube. Thanks for joining us here 14 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: on a Sunday morning. Hit the like button, subscribe podcast listeners, 15 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: leave your boys a five star rating and review. I'm 16 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: going to tell you right now our NBA Finals preview 17 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: it's coming on Tuesday. Okay, So we won't get into 18 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: Thunder Pacers on today show. We're talking about Game six 19 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: last night, what the Knicks are going to do in 20 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: the offseason, say goodbye to tn T with the NBA broadcast. 21 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: But NBA Finals preview that's on Tuesday. But let's get 22 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: into the game. Siakam Halliburton carrying the Pacers to the 23 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: one twenty five one away victory over the Knicks on 24 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: Saturday night. They got the four to two series win 25 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: task and their first trip to the NBA Finals since 26 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: two thousand. What do you think of their performance and 27 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: how they laid the beat down in this game six victory. 28 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: I thought Pascal Siakam was the difference because he got 29 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 3: the pace going about four and a half minutes in 30 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 3: because the Knicks were going blow for blow to start 31 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 3: this game. But then Pascal Siakam got out real quick 32 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: to get one of those Indiana Pacers plays off of 33 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: make where quick little inbound to Haliburn. He drops a 34 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 3: fifty foot pass to Siakam, who's beyond the three point line. 35 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: Just needs to take one dribble and he scores, so 36 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 3: six seconds he's got a bucket. He had three more 37 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 3: baseball passes where he converted. Like late in the second 38 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 3: there another one no dribble passes, three quick passes heap scores. 39 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 3: Pacers want to have some momentum going into half again. 40 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 3: Six seconds left in the second quarter, he gets another 41 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 3: one Siakam on a breakout on a miss, this time 42 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: push ahead to keep that thing going into halftime, and 43 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 3: there's a trickle down effect, like Miles Turner had a 44 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 3: three right after the first one. It trickles down. It 45 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,839 Speaker 3: trickled down into the third quarter again after Thomas Bryan 46 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: has to come off the bench because Miles Turner has 47 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: four fouls just two minutes in. Big block by Bryant 48 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 3: leads to another Seacam push ahead and then when the 49 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 3: Knicks were getting back, I thought, we got a lot 50 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 3: of ethical Seakam baskets. Give me the ball, I'll go 51 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: to work in the mid range. Did it again. I 52 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 3: thought there are key moments like to start the second 53 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 3: quarter with Haliburton on the bench, first basket Seakam three. 54 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 3: Third quarter again right out of the locker room, bangs 55 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: home another three. More key stuff from Siakam to the 56 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 3: third quarter when the Knicks are on an eight tozero 57 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 3: run to try and push this game closer, mister Siakam 58 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 3: puts that hand back for a steal on mckal bridges 59 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 3: that sparks a nine er run for the Pacers. So 60 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 3: he was just there to seal it, and he sealed 61 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 3: it late in the fourth quarter with an offensive rebound 62 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: to really put this thing away. As the Knicks we're 63 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 3: trying to do it again. I thought he was the 64 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 3: guy in this game that did it in so many ways. 65 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 3: Obviously so many other guys doing it, but I think 66 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 3: Siakam was the guy just to make it all happen 67 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: in that Indiana way. 68 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: Sounds like you would have given him your vote for 69 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: Eastern Conference Finals MVP. Yeah, close, vote five to four, 70 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: just eking out Tellerton, but you're going through all he 71 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: did in this game and throughout the series. 72 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 4: Close. Yeah. 73 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, even if stan Van Gundy said, you guys heard 74 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: when he went they were talking amongst each other. I'm 75 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 3: not sure if that was an NBA like in Arena 76 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: feed thing, but he was talking to Reggie Miller goes, 77 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 3: he Halliburn's gonna. 78 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: Win this MVP, right, Yeah, Yeah, Reggie voted for him. 79 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 3: Yeahah voted for let's get a good close one. And 80 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: that's the beauty of the Pacers. 81 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: Anybody could do it, Yeah, exactly. A five to four 82 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: vote for the MVP makes complete sense, and it kind 83 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 2: of played out in this game as well, because you 84 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: could say Halliburton was the main reason that the Pacers 85 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: won if you really wanted to. He bounced back after 86 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: the Game three loss. They scored one hundred. Then they 87 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: went and scored one hundred and twenty. Same thing happened here, 88 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: ninety four to one hundred and twenty. Once again, he 89 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: was aggressive, scoring twenty one points on seventeen field goal attempt, 90 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 2: six rebounds, thirteen assists, and uncharacteristic four turnovers for Tyrese Haliburton. 91 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: He had two in the first quarter, even three steals though, 92 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: and a block. The Pacers were smart with the way 93 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: they got some defensive pressure off him, screening way high 94 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 2: up almost at the half court line. Because the Knicks 95 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: did a better job in Game five of picking him 96 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: up early. It took him out of the offense. I 97 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: also said I thought that there were some mid range 98 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: attacks that Tyre's Haliburton could have taken in Game five. 99 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: He only took seven shots one mid range attempt here. 100 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: In Game six, though, with Towns way too far down 101 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: in the drop four for eight from the mid range. 102 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 2: He had that deep dagger three. Kevin Harlan Tyre's Halliperson 103 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 2: has gone mad. Love that call from him. Pacers seven 104 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 2: to zero. In the playoffs, Halliburton scores twenty or more points. 105 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: The Pacers played their style of basketball. Test mentioned the 106 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: runouts They got at least four off makes just chucking 107 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: it down, something they had to have seen in the 108 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: scouting report. If the Knicks are going to crash the 109 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: offensive glass the way they have been, there's no way 110 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: somebody can be back. So it worked out for them. 111 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: Pacers scored thirteen of nineteen field goals with six or 112 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 2: fewer seconds gone off the shot clock. This was completely 113 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: Pacers style basketball. They understood the assignment and they played very, 114 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: very well from like one to nine. I can't believe 115 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: Thomas Bryant had this kind of game. I thought he 116 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: was going to be the problem band of blowing this series. 117 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: Instead three threes, he was part of that huge third 118 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 2: quarter that really won the Pacers the game. 119 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it's one thing when Siakam is beating 120 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: you down the floor. It's another when Thomas Bryant did 121 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: that one time. That's when you knew the Knicks transition defense, 122 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: yeah was not there. They were in a bad place 123 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: when Bryant was sprinting them down the floor. But back 124 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: to like the two main guys, there is no doubt 125 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: Tyres Halliburton is the engine to the Pacers offense, but 126 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: Siakam's the gas and He's not the regular gas, he's 127 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: premium gas. Man. They go hand in hand. It's awesome 128 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: to see. I'm glad he got this Finals MVP in 129 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: that very close vote. But what a game here. Thirty 130 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: one points, five boards, three assists, a steal, three block 131 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: shots as well, and just that NonStop motor. I mean, 132 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: he just is one of the best conditioned athletes in 133 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: the NBA. In a league full of great athletes, he's 134 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: one of the best. But Halliburton closed the door too, 135 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: so props to him. You know, when it was like 136 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: in balance, still a little bit. We've seen a lot 137 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: of comebacks in the postseason, but man, he just like 138 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: sort of took over after Siakam did his part in 139 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: the third with help from Ryant, with help from Nemhard Halliburton. 140 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: Mike was like, Okay, we're closing the door here. I 141 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: got Pops up in the crowd. We'll eventually get him 142 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: down making his way down through the crowd like he's 143 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: jay USO. 144 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 2: Bring the towel job easy, that's right. 145 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, what a great, great performance here from the Pacers, 146 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: and they're going back to the NBA Finals for the 147 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: first time in a very long time. 148 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: It's wild. 149 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: Twenty five years it is weld and it's well that 150 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 3: they basically ran back the same team as last year, 151 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 3: and everyone saying, oh, it's kind of lucky that they 152 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: made it to the conference finals and here they are, 153 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 3: they're going back. When they're talking about I heard Miles 154 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 3: Turner talk about what brought this team together. He talked 155 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 3: about two years ago and twenty three in their training 156 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 3: camp when they went to Nashville for a little trip 157 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 3: that was inspired by Bruce Brown because he likes the 158 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: where that cowboy hat. How they bonded over that, and 159 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 3: also he talked about how they come in on off 160 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: days and how they've how they've sort of collated into 161 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: this team like they're the Oklahoma City Thunder where they 162 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: can go twelve deep. I know there's other guys to 163 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 3: talk about rather than Thomas Bryant, but that was ridiculous. 164 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: To get to Thomas Bryant like that off the bench. 165 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 3: That was Yeah, that was crazy because Miles Turner get 166 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 3: four fouls really early in the third quarter. 167 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 4: Oh no, we got to go to Thomas Bryant. He 168 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 4: first possession, he bangs that block. 169 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: That was such an important block, just to get it going, 170 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 3: he got Sam going the other way and to splash 171 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 3: home threes like that, three threes. This was a guy 172 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 3: who was on the Denver Nuggets bench. Obviously they would 173 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 3: have loved to have him back up Jokic. Then Miami 174 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: just gave him away at the trade deadline this year 175 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 3: because they just need to save some money. And there 176 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 3: is in the Conference finals contributed and he. 177 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: Had only played in three of the series first five 178 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: games for a total of twenty two minutes. 179 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 3: You got bench, yeah, yeah, bench, yeah. 180 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,119 Speaker 1: And then Bradley gets injured and then it's like all right, Bryan, 181 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: like let's go again. And then he has this game six, 182 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: he's you know, yeah, he gave the Pacers eleven points 183 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: in thirteen minutes and big threes. Some great defense as well, 184 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: and again like out hustling the Knicks defense down the 185 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: floor like he played amazingly. Can we talk a little 186 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: bit about Andrew Nemhart as well. The holy crap he 187 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: had Brunton in the straight jacket last That was an 188 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: awesome bounce back performance from him, a guy who had 189 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: been struggling at times in this series, but man, he 190 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: was pressuring Brunson full court. You know, got around those screens, 191 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: playing smart but physical, came up with six deals. I 192 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: think in the end, sort of had that back breaking 193 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: one where him and Halliburton sort of like converged on 194 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: Brunson at the half and it was going the other way. 195 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: Just what a crazy good game from him. And this 196 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: was a guy that's like you know, earlier in the 197 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: series when he was matched up on Brunson, Brunson felt 198 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: pretty comfortable. 199 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 2: In the conference finals. 200 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: Last year he got cooked by Brunson in sort of 201 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: like a similar series, same squads. But this game six 202 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 1: coming through keeping Brunson in nineteen points and the five turnovers, 203 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: that was amazing. And then he scored as well. I 204 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: mean that's the other part. He actually hit some shots. Yeah. 205 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: I went to a Renaissance festival yesterday and the magician 206 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: David Silverfield easily got out of a straight jacket. Okay, 207 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: no problem for David Silverfield. But Brunson was having problems. 208 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 2: Nineteen points on eighteen shots, and this was kind of 209 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: the first good defense that Nemhardt has played. Like you said, 210 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: I think Caitlin Cooper of Basketball she wrote had the 211 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: staff that Brunson was scoring like fifty points per one 212 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: hundred possessions with Memhard guarding him prior to Game six 213 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: and then last night just nine points, and that's exactly 214 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: what it felt like. He was all over him when 215 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: the ball would get away from Brunson, no more space, 216 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: like it was going to be tough for him to 217 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: get it back, even on makes or uh sorry, Memhard 218 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: would be all up on him and just staying on 219 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: his hip the entire time. You could tell how frustrated 220 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 2: Brunson was. He had butted him in the face at 221 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: one point. He'll call of course, and then like you're saying, 222 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: to actually play a good offensive game. I'm surprised to 223 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 2: see that Nehard had had some double digit games so 224 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 2: far in this series, but he really was good in 225 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: this one. Fourteen points, eight assists, hit a couple of threes. 226 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: Stan Van Gundu was loving the balance on the step backs. 227 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: It's like the shots might not be going in, but 228 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: they looked nice, and then they started going in, which 229 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 2: was great. So the Pacers played so good they got 230 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: a role player's pack on the YouTube for the NBA. 231 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: They're like the Pacers role players brought it, and they 232 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: all did. Bryant was great, Memhard was great. Nie Smith 233 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: didn't really do much in this one, but I thought 234 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 2: Obi Toppin was awesome as well. Yeah, he was giving 235 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 2: them a little bit of Pascal Siakam. But we've been 236 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 2: talking about how Tyrese Haliburton is very similar to Steve Nash. 237 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: This guy is like, what if you were fifty percent 238 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: Amari Stademeier fifty percent Sean Marry. He runs the court 239 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: like Sean Marion does. He's such a good cutter. He'll 240 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 2: shoot a corner three you're not totally sure if it's 241 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: going to go in. It went in last night. Made 242 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: a couple of them, but then he gets off the 243 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 2: floor so fast, just like Stat used to back in 244 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 2: the day. So a couple of big dunks for him 245 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: as well. He's a momentum player and he just found 246 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: the perfect spot, kind of like Siakam found the perfect spot. 247 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: Siakam made the Pacers fast, faster and they're slow better 248 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: Obi Top and didn't really fit totally with the Knicks, 249 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 2: but on a run and gun team where all you 250 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: have to do is rebound and then get out in transition, 251 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: he's perfect. 252 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, as far as Nemhart's stopping Brunson, I think game 253 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 3: ball goes to him. Game ball also gets handed to 254 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 3: him by Rick Carlo because Rick Carlo made a change. 255 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 3: He had Aaron Smith on Jalen Brunson to start this game. 256 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 3: First two possessions, Jalen Brunson scored on aaron Ne Smith. 257 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 3: Rick said, all right, we need to go somewhere else. 258 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 3: Nemhard came through big time a year after he was 259 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 3: burned by Jalen Brunson in the conference in the second round. 260 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 3: There they played in the second round last year. Right, Yeah, 261 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 3: it's hard to remember sometime, but he burned him over 262 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 3: and over and over again, and Themhart just locked in again. 263 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 3: Like you said, Trey, It's not like he was incredible 264 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: offensively throughout this Conference finals, but he stayed with it. 265 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 3: He stayed with it and defensively obviously and offensively. That's 266 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 3: why this team is a special one. And that all 267 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 3: that talk about how this lucky team got to the 268 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 3: conference final. Yeah, yeah, the best team made the NBA Finals, 269 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 3: no doubt about it. Better than Celtics, better than the Nicks, 270 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 3: better than the Cast, better than the Bucks, better than 271 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: them all. So this was this was a wild game. 272 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: Six when you look at win percentage, since basically we 273 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: turned into twenty twenty five, January first. I think these 274 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: are the two best teams that we have in the finals, 275 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: So Pacers, and the only team that was better than 276 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: them over that stretch in terms of winning these games 277 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: is the Thunder. So you know, they've been doing this 278 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: for a very long time. Now. Yeah, the Thunder had 279 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: the sixty eight wins and it's like a lot less 280 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: here for the Pacers. But since January first, they have 281 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: been dominant. Big part of it is the Nie Smith 282 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: and the Nemhart being in that sort of role again 283 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 1: that they can give them a little bit of defense 284 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: because you know, the offense ain't gonna be a problem. 285 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: Like what a game where they shot fifty four percent 286 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: from the floor, fifty one point five percent from deep. 287 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: Fine at the line in this game went sixteen to nineteen. 288 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: That's great, eighty four percent. So that's a fifty forty 289 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: ninety in a you know, a close out game six 290 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: against a very you know, scrappy Knicks team that that 291 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: made it interesting with that seven to er run whatever 292 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 1: it was there in the third quarter and oh yeah yeah, 293 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: like that that's safe. It looked like it was gonna 294 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: save their season. It was because it was getting out 295 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: of hand. But then of course the Pacers come right 296 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: back and push their own little run and then they 297 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: got into that comfortable like sort of fifteen sixteen and 298 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: kept growing sort of spot until they put them away. 299 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: But just so many turnovers from the Knicks eighteen I 300 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 1: think in total, and was always going to be tough 301 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: when you're playing that fast break Pacers game. 302 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, exactly eighteen turnovers. And like we're saying, they 303 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 2: were getting runouts on made baskets and on missus thirty 304 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: one transition points for uh Indiana last night, I think 305 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: they outscored the Knicks in transition by basically ten points 306 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: per game every single game. That was the game plan 307 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 2: for New York try or for Indiana, try and make 308 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: them run, wear them down, and they completely wore down 309 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 2: New York over the course of the series. 310 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that Thibodeaux could have gone to Brunson 311 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 3: a little bit more off the ball instead of starting 312 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 3: the offense all the time, and bring the ball up 313 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 3: a little bit. I think that kind of gassed him 314 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 3: a little bit. We saw it earlier in the series 315 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 3: where he starts possessions off the ball a little bit more, 316 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 3: and that just is a little bit, uh, just a 317 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 3: better shelf life for Brunson. I thought you got a 318 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 3: little guest in this one. I can, you can pinpoint 319 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 3: a lot of things, but at the time, well it. 320 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: Was it was perplexing when Tibbs had that stretch where 321 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: you didn't have Kat or Brunson out on the floor. 322 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: That was O WTF, Like, I mean, I know you're 323 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: trying things here, and you had some success in Game 324 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: five with some crazy lineups you know, right sham it 325 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: stuff like that, but you also had your star guy, 326 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: at least one of them out there. We had right McBride, Shammitt, 327 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: Hart and Robinson facing elimination on the road. That's an 328 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: insane lineup. I mean to even like give that a 329 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: couple minutes was weird. I know, Schuman, our guy Schumann 330 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: was going nuts on Blue Sky last night, thing, what 331 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: the hell is Tipps doing here? This is really strange, 332 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: especially for a team that you know, didn't play a 333 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: whole bunch of their bench over the last season. So 334 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: just weird. But man, yeah, what'd you think of Kat's game? 335 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: You brought up the defensive dropping from him, he was 336 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: sort of getting exit. 337 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 2: It was a really poor defensive game from Karl Anthony 338 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: Towns to the point you're like, should they try and 339 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: play two bigs down the stretch here? Like Tibbs eventually 340 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: just kind of went back to what he thinks works 341 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: their starting lineup from the beginning of the series, where 342 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: Josh Hart is in there for Mitchell Robinson and that 343 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 2: lineup has gotten blown off the court for the entire season, 344 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: not to mention just in this playoff series. So I 345 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: thought that was a little bit odd, But it just 346 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: seemed like the Pacers knew exactly where to attack New York. Yeah, 347 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: Brunson gave a better effort. Bridges was better than he 348 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: was in Game four. He was awesome in Game five. 349 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: I thought it was fine in Game six, but the 350 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: cat put piece of it was impossible. They could not 351 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 2: get a stop with the way he was playing. Then 352 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 2: you see Fred Katz James Edwards dropped a piece on 353 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: the Athletic Today basically calling out Carl Anthony Towns for 354 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 2: his defense. They were just ready to send that as 355 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 2: soon as the season and died. They're like, this guy 356 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 2: cannot guard and he can't. It was mistake fest from 357 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: Carl Anthony Founds. I went to the Renaissance Fest. He 358 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 2: went to the mistake Fest, unfortunately, and that's why it 359 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: was so easy for Halliburton. Surely they showed him the 360 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: tape of game five and said, look how far down 361 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: he's playing. Just take a mid range jumper, Just take 362 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: a floater. He killed him with that, and then there 363 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: were times when he would sneak into the mid range 364 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: towns would come up boop, easy drop off to Turner 365 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: or Obi top him. 366 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, in game five he was playing way more up 367 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 3: and stan Van said it throughout the broadcast, he's playing 368 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: way too down, and he actually complimented. Carl said, in 369 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 3: the last game he was getting way more up. But 370 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 3: at early second quarter it was three after three, after three, 371 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 3: his first possession he played way off Pascal Siakam bang, 372 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 3: and then he dropped way below on top ends three bang. 373 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe it's because it's topping and you give him 374 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 3: the space, I guess, But then he didn't do it 375 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 3: to go again Haliburn bang. So that's three threes in 376 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 3: the first four minutes of this. Maybe he's doing it 377 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 3: because Jaylen Brunson isn't on the floor and he has 378 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 3: to be the offense. But that's an excuse or really 379 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 3: at the same time, I say those three threes and 380 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 3: then the next possession he would. 381 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 4: Run it down Miles Turner's throat. 382 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 3: On the offensive end, like his pushes were impressive and offensively, 383 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 3: but the defense was a thing, there's no doubt. 384 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, just becomes that thing where it's like, Okay, you're 385 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: happy that he's given you twenty five to thirty points, 386 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: but then you're like, how many is he given back 387 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: on the other end of the floor because of like 388 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: the way he's playing, and it does seem like the 389 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: Knicks they're coaching staff all the other players, like that's 390 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 1: not what we're supposed to be doing. Kat, Like what 391 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: are you doing here? Because there's a lot of sort 392 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: of like finger pointing. Yeah, and you got the article. 393 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: Now it's the classic now they tell us article, which 394 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: is so great. We always love it. But yeah, we'll 395 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: see moving forward and we can get into the Knicks 396 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: offseason in a second here, but we can also get 397 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: into some random notes from this game or any other 398 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: basketball related ones. 399 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 4: We got to give some love to. The og Og 400 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 4: was awesome. 401 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 3: He was great banging home threes when they needed a basket. 402 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 3: That was the guy I have to note Miles Bridge 403 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 3: or sorry, I always called mckail bridges Miles Bridges these days. 404 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 3: Five turnovers for mckel bridges. 405 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 4: You just see him just turn it over, these sloppy 406 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 4: Joe's the bad passes. 407 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and then he makes up for another way. 408 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 3: It's like you're saying about Karl Anthony Town's good and bad, uh, 409 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 3: but just just bad stuff to start this game early. 410 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 3: It just you know, he just kind of gets lost 411 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 3: on offense at times. He's not a go to guy 412 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 3: in the post and that kind of thing or whatever 413 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 3: it is. But just to mention Og what an awesome 414 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 3: block he had in the corner. 415 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 4: There too. 416 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 3: More praise. It's more praise for Og than this, you know, 417 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 3: not praise to diss mckel bridges, but o G. He 418 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 3: had him go. He hadnt key kept him in this 419 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 3: for a while with those big big shots. 420 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: With this game. Had some incredible blocks, had like five 421 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: or six awesome blocks on both sides. Mikail Bridges denied 422 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: Mathron from behind Obie Toppin's stuffed heart. Hallie blocked OG's 423 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: three point attempt in the corner. Og then cover insane 424 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: amount of ground to block Nie Smiths three in the corner. 425 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: You had the one that we've already talked about, Thomas 426 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 1: Bryant stonewalling Og on the drive, and then Og had 427 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: another one where he go go gadget armed it on 428 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: Siakam's like stretched right arm, layup attempt, like five or 429 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: six awesome defensive plays again on both sides. Yeah, Og 430 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: did have a good game. You know the other guys 431 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: we already talked about stars like Kat sort of giving 432 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: a lot back brunts in in the straight jacket last night, 433 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: and then even admitted after the game Josh Hart was 434 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: a nothing nothing this sort of entire series. And I 435 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: know he got removed from the starting lineup and all that, 436 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 1: but he even admitted, like I gave nothing this series. 437 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: Maybe it's a different series if I play well. Of 438 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: course it's a much different series. If they just win 439 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: game one would probably talk about games. But yeah, he 440 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: was bad, I thought too. 441 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder if the pacers in Arena or on 442 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 3: TNT they say Josh Hart shooting a three, turn up 443 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 3: the mic on the backboard, turn it up. 444 00:19:53,920 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 4: Because he was wrecking those were he didn't have it, man. 445 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: No, he did not anything else TK on the game himself, 446 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: or you got some random. 447 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 2: Notes nothing on basketball. All right, let's get into balls. 448 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: Random random, What did you say, Let's talk balls. 449 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 2: Let's talk ball. Okay, I know your first random Yeah, 450 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 2: two knees to the nuts in this one, the Karl 451 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 2: Malone coming through one was og on Pascal Siakam. The 452 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: next was Karl Anthony Towns on Myles Turner, I think. 453 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 2: And it was a funny explanation because they eventually did 454 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 2: go and look at the og one at the table, 455 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 2: to which James Caper's then was explaining to Rick Carlisle. Look, 456 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: this is a natural shooting emotion, the way he brings 457 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 2: his knee up. Unfortunately he hits his groid. He's like, wait, 458 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 2: it goes up like this. Yeah, that's how you shoot 459 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: a laugh, That's how we all like this. God, it's 460 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 2: totally defenseless, the flying tiger knee. 461 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: Ouch. 462 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 4: It was off leg too. You shouldn't be bringing up 463 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,959 Speaker 4: his right leg. You know you're taught left leg if 464 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 4: you're any. 465 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, but at the one footage jump. Nonetheless, these 466 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: guys are good enough. They can shoot offhanded, off foot 467 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 2: they but man to be going up with the verticality 468 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 2: in the nuts and then get called. 469 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 4: For the following. 470 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: That's that's rough, that's tough. Yeah, it happened a couple 471 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: of times, like you said. 472 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 2: In quick successions. They were pretty back to back. I 473 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 2: mean they probably weren't actually back to back possessions, but 474 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 2: within five minutes it was close. 475 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: They were close enough that the that are you know, 476 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: WhatsApp chat was going, what the hell's going on here? 477 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: Watch the nuts, watch your hips. That was crazy. We 478 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: also had another rick spit. Rick Carlisle caught spitting once again. 479 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: I'm on the watch, guys. This is my beat now here. 480 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: He is early in the game in the little cup there. 481 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: So we we noticed this the other night and here 482 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: it was again. I'm glad the cameras caught it. It's 483 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: just fun that we've got the Rick Smith's Rick spits 484 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: Dick hits. It all comes together, Rix sits, Rick spits 485 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: Dick hits. That's the Eastern Conference Finals in a nutshell 486 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: right there. 487 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 3: At least he also spit early third quarter, but it 488 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 3: was a really wide shot. It wasn't the close up 489 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 3: like that, but you could see him. Cop is in 490 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 3: the cup is in the same spot right on the 491 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 3: scorer table up. 492 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: This spit cup. 493 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I just start to wonder. 494 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 3: Because I'm examining his mouth, does he have some tobacco 495 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 3: dip in there? But there's nothing in there. It doesn't 496 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 3: look like it. I think he's just spinning and at 497 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 3: the beginning of the first quarter, beginning of the third quarter. 498 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 3: So is he, you know, drinking before he gets out there? 499 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 3: Not alcohol, but I mean, like, is there something in 500 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 3: his mouth that's producing it? Because there's no color to 501 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 3: it too. Yeah, I mean I'm going I'm going to like. 502 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: A jolly rancher color or something. Yeah, it's a good point. 503 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 3: It ain't a disgusting cherry dip or whatever people you 504 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 3: know put dip in their lip. Yeah, yeah, exactly, there's 505 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 3: no there's no discoloration. It's just saliva. 506 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: We've got games before Game one in the NBA Finals, 507 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: someone please ask Rick what's with the spinting? 508 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 2: What's with the spitting? Rick? What's going on? Rick? Who 509 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: handles that cup afterwards? That's what I was. 510 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: It's dangerous to have that cup just sitting there. I'm 511 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: worried someone's gonna grab it. 512 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 2: Nobody else would want to touch it, right, Rick spits gross? 513 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 3: Somebody asks former coach Mike Brown. About that, because Mike 514 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 3: Brown would spit into his cup. Yeah, for the Sacramentic Kings, 515 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 3: but that's usually a cup under the cherry, pulls it up, Yeah, 516 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,959 Speaker 3: puts it down. He usually it looked like he had 517 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 3: more volume than Rick. 518 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 2: I think he may have really hawking a loogi. 519 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it might be a whole article on this. We're 520 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: getting out. Why are coaches spitting so much? 521 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 2: Why the coaches spit so much? Let's go ask task Melice. 522 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 2: He examines all the mouths. 523 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 3: It's unfortunately, that's so much basketball I watched, but Mike 524 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 3: Brown's is literally brown. 525 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 4: Rick, I think, how. 526 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 3: About this fun? 527 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: No here we had Haliburton clapping back at Ben Stiller 528 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: after the Pacers eliminated the Knicks. We did have Stiller 529 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: earlier in the day, or when Haliburton showed up to 530 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: the arena, said good thing. He brought his duffel for 531 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: the flight to New York. Okay, BET's still a pretty 532 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: confident Nick. We're gonna get this back for a game 533 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: seven in Madison Square Garden. Halliburton didn't take long after 534 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: the victory to respond, Nah was to pack you all up. 535 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: Not bad, pretty good retort. I thought, I like it, Yeah, exactly, 536 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: And they came dressed in black, and they took care 537 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: of business. I already brought up John Halliburton coming down 538 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 1: through the crowd, honey, pretty funny. Just looked awesome, looked awesome. 539 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: But otherwise I don't have many other, many other random notes. 540 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 2: What did you think about Reggie taking part in the 541 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 2: funeral gear? He walked in and all black, saying, this 542 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: is a funeral game. It's unusual, it's weird, it's unusual. 543 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is strange, like he said, when I mean, 544 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: we can also get to obviously this last TNT podcast, 545 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: Like he said, like I've had a crazy life. I 546 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: had like eighteen seasons with one franchise here in Indiana, 547 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: and then I had nineteen more seasons with TNT. I 548 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: could not believe he had been there for nineteen years. 549 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 2: Unbelievable. 550 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 4: I wastely crap. 551 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: I'm old, old, but yeah, it was just strange that 552 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: he was on the broadcast here for this. I know 553 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: Knicks fans weren't all that happy about it. I thought, 554 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: within the. 555 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 2: Game, it's not like he was super No. I think 556 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 2: I feel like from jump ball to final whistle, Reggie 557 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 2: plays it pretty straight from both sides, except for the 558 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 2: time that Ben Matheron was having a bad run. He's like, 559 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 2: he has been so bad for the Pacers. That was 560 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 2: what I was like, Oh, you're feeling like a fan 561 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 2: right now. Otherwise, but then anytime outside of the game, 562 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 2: of course he's going hard for the p Yeah. 563 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, he kept it pretty neutral. I find it weird 564 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 3: watching the in arena feed and they you know, announced 565 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 3: him and and he's, you know, bowing it. And here 566 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 3: comes Jalen Rose and Mike Epps and they're bowing to 567 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 3: Reggie Miller. I find that strange that the broadcasters, but 568 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 3: Reggie Miller and Reggie Wayne also in attendance. There's Reggie Wayne. 569 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 4: They give him lots of love to and they give. 570 00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 3: Pat McAfee lots of love Jesus, everybody start there. Yeah, 571 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 3: here's our punter. 572 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: Last night's last night's Nick's Pacers game mark the end 573 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: of NBA on TNT. I thought it was a pretty 574 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: emotional sign off for the crew. They of course gave 575 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: us a final gone fishing of them heading into the summer, 576 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: so you know, they do this for every team that 577 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: gets eliminated. But they're the four guys with their fish 578 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: Yeah elevator Ernie shirt, I like that. Yeah, but New 579 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: Yorker shirt on Kenny Smith. 580 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that as well. 581 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: What did you think of their actual like goodbye to 582 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: all of those fans there on the broadcast. 583 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 2: I thought like it was a double goodbye because Kevin 584 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 2: Harlan kind of gave the broadcast goodbye, and then they 585 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: ran through all the different broadcasts, setups and partners that 586 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 2: they had had. I thought that was really cool. And 587 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 2: then of course it was bittersweet and kind of fun 588 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 2: to watch them saying goodbye to this version of Inside 589 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 2: the NBA. I like shack racking up a couple of 590 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 2: fines from the SEC that David Aslovt is gonna have 591 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 2: to pay now that they're leaving. He said, I'm not 592 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: gonna have around. Well, I'm gonna say the real word. 593 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 2: I thought that was pretty funny, so I got Kenny 594 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 2: all high up to say it as well. And then Charles, 595 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 2: the guy who cannot go a sentence without swearing when 596 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 2: he's off TV, didn't swear. No, that was air ball. 597 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 2: But of course Ernie brought it back home emotional at 598 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 2: the end. That was fun to see them get a 599 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 2: chance to say goodbye, and you know it's sad. It 600 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 2: literally is the end of an era. 601 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was like it was cool that 602 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: they were in Indianapolis in front of that huge crowd 603 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: that had obviously poured out from the actual arena into 604 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: that sort of concourse. Like that was cool. Like they 605 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: were chanting like you know, T and T and stuff 606 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: like that. Thought that was pretty neat. It was just 607 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: better than them just sitting you know, up in the 608 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 1: nosebleeds somewhere with like no crowd behind them. Gave them 609 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: sort of that cool atmosphere. The only other note was 610 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: like Ernie did the amazing goodbye right at the end, 611 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: but then Shack sort of ruined it by like saying. 612 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 2: Like like hey man, let's drop our mics. 613 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: Let's drop our mics. I was like, okay, that's classic Shack. 614 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: But otherwise, I mean, it was classy from the entire 615 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: team there, and especially Ernie with his sort of final words. 616 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 2: And it is weird too. It's like we're gone, but 617 00:27:59,000 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: we're not. 618 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 3: So it's just so yeah, and Shack after I was 619 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 3: during Game five, I guess was doing, uh. 620 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 4: We're coming back, We're gonna be good. 621 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 3: It was like he was cutting a promo video for 622 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 3: next year. You know, he was selling it. It's like, 623 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 3: we're gonna be good yet. 624 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm paraphrasing. I don't think you said. That's 625 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 4: essentially what it was. I was like, we're done. 626 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 2: He Al says that they're coming there. They're kicking ass 627 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 2: and taking Man, you're gonna fight my bre Kendrick Perkins 628 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 2: versus Shack made it happen. 629 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: It was strange, Like I guess I didn't realize it 630 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: when they did that thing, like you said, Harlan with 631 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: stan Van and Reggie and Ali LaForce she joined there 632 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: at the final part. Like I was like, oh, yeah, 633 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: Harlan and Reggie, you are not gonna be together? Yeah, 634 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: weird they I think I have that right. Aren't they 635 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: going two separate ways? 636 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 3: I don't know. 637 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: I don't know where Harlan's actually going, but I think 638 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: they might be. It could be sort of weird. Yeah, 639 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: He's sort of like. 640 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: We'll hear the same voices but not the same mix. Yeah. 641 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: I guess that's my point. That's my point. 642 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 4: Anyway. 643 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: It was an emotional goodbye there from Ernie and the crew. 644 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: Do you want to talk a little bit about the Knicks. 645 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 3: One from from the game. I always love when a 646 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 3: player is sitting on those huge cushions on the bench, 647 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 3: But I really like it when they're sitting on huge 648 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 3: cushions beside coaches, so they look like they're up so high. 649 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 3: Tyrese Haliburton was sitting on it. And I don't know 650 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 3: if it's because he's got hemorrhoids, if he's hemorrhoids Haliburton 651 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 3: right now, but he's sitting up on those and you've 652 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 3: got little coaches sitting next to him. It just looks hilarious. Well, 653 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 3: you know, a couple of seats down. Other players are 654 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 3: sitting on these things just to make sure their butts 655 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 3: are okay. 656 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, the butts, I think for the back maybe too. 657 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 658 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: You just heard his back mowing the lawn. 659 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 2: Now, literally the oldest I felt in my life, tweaking 660 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 2: my back, taking a step backwards, mowing the lawn. Oh man, 661 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 2: gutting it out and finishing the lot. Because I've only 662 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: done one part of it. The rest of it, I 663 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: was like Karl Anthony Towns giddy up in oh way, 664 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,959 Speaker 2: couldn't back up at all. A good sitting I might 665 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: sleep sitting up tonight. My one last note, why are 666 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: we going back to this? This is like, this is 667 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: like a shack joke at the end. But I like 668 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 2: after t J McConnell made a three pointer in the 669 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 2: third quarter, Reggie Miller screamed out, how many times are 670 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 2: they going to give Little TJ? Called Little TJ? In 671 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 2: that moment, the crowd's going crazy, and. 672 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 4: He banged home one of those. 673 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 2: He was open. 674 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 3: He lines it up, He takes his time and laces 675 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 3: it up. I do want to just note the reason 676 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 3: why I like this game. It's because players were so passionate. 677 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 3: They were yelling so much. There're they were giving it 678 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 3: to the refs, but it was more of a discussion 679 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 3: because they're so passionate, why is this call happening? Why 680 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 3: is this happening? And there were no texts, no flagrance. 681 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 3: It was real playoff basketball. 682 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: Good point. 683 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 4: That was fun. It was it was fun and they 684 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 4: were just passionate, so it was good all round. 685 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: Uh, talk a little bit about the Knicks. I guess 686 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: my first thing is is this season a success for 687 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: the New York Knicks? What's your take on that? Before 688 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,959 Speaker 1: we pivot to like maybe what they should or shouldn't do. 689 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 2: I think this is an unqualified success for the New 690 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 2: York Knicks. They went to the conference finals for the 691 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 2: first time in a quarter decade. End of sentence, like 692 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 2: the what do you want? You know, they went further 693 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 2: than they went last year. 694 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: They've actually progressed over each of the past four seasons, 695 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: which is pretty wild. Not making the playoffs to losing 696 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: in the second round to losing in the semifinals in 697 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: seven games. I mean, that's the progression there. Obviously, they 698 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: were banged up and then reaching the conference finals, and 699 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: you know, they did take down the defending champs. I 700 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: know Tatum got hurt, but they were about to go 701 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: up three to one when Tatum did get hurt. I 702 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: mean that does have an impact on the series and 703 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: their chances come back. But yeah, you agree with this. 704 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: This was a good season for the New York Knicks, 705 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: even though they went oh to ten against the elite 706 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: teams in the regular season and you know, didn't hit 707 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: their over under you know prediction. I think it was 708 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: like a fifty four and a half or something like that. 709 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: It's only only won fifty one. Yeah, but overall, you 710 00:31:59,040 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: think it was good? 711 00:31:59,520 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 4: Yeah? 712 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 3: Up, everybody including us who thought, oh they I mean, 713 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 3: they can't beat this team. They can't beat this team 714 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 3: that can't beat us, and they can't beat Cleveland. The 715 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 3: camp be okay, see they go to the conference finals. 716 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 3: Now Pacers started ten and fifteen, obviously a very successful 717 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,479 Speaker 3: season for them doing the same thing, also shutting us up. 718 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 3: That's the connection I'm making and at the same time, 719 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 3: just a great success for the Knicks. Top two guys, 720 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 3: Brunson and Towns did their postgame press conference and Towns 721 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 3: was just talking about Brunson, man, He's one of the 722 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 3: best players I've ever played with what he does when 723 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 3: he walks into the gym, he just sets the bar 724 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 3: up higher. 725 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 4: And so they connected in their first season together. So yeah, 726 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 4: all round. 727 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: So the Knicks enter the off season with Brunson, Og 728 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: and Hart signed through twenty twenty eight, and then Towns 729 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: induce McBride signed through twenty twenty seven. So your big 730 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: decisions here are you have Bridges and Robinson entering the 731 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: final years of their contracts. And I know Sam Vessini 732 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: was pointing out he thinks the big decision for the 733 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: k next this summer is the Michale Bridges extension. What 734 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: that looks like. Is it the max four years, one 735 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty six million. Does he take less? I 736 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: mean Brunson already did the whole discount true for the team. 737 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: Does Bridges do that as well? Do you look to 738 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: move Bridges for a different player, for a different fit, 739 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: And that's so that's what Vassini has his eyes on. 740 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: Do you think that's sort of the big question for 741 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: the Knicks or do you think there's another area that 742 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: they might look to move or upgrade or whatever. 743 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 2: Certainly that's a big question for the Knicks is what 744 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 2: to do with McHale Bridges. Because they traded so much 745 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 2: for him, it seems unlikely that they would move off 746 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 2: of him or make him wait for another contract. Four 747 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 2: years for basically one sixty that's not bad for a 748 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 2: starting wing. I don't think necessarily the Knicks got what 749 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: they were expecting from McHale Bridges. I don't think his 750 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 2: defense was probably as good as that New York fans 751 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 2: were hoping. I don't know if he was able to 752 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 2: reach the heights as an offensive player that he had 753 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 2: at times in Brooklyn. Kind of took him some time 754 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 2: to figure out how he's gonna fit on this team. 755 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 2: The guy needs to get more comfortable with contact. Absolutely, 756 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 2: it's a fade away every single time from McHale Bridges. 757 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 2: That's how you end up playing eighty two games every 758 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 2: single season is by trying not to get hurt. And 759 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 2: sometimes that's what it feels like. But I think the 760 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 2: biggest question the Knicks are going to have to answer 761 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 2: is do they try and trade Karl Anthony Towns because 762 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 2: he's got that gigantic deal he signed for a couple 763 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 2: of seasons here. They got him the day before the 764 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 2: preseason started, like they didn't have a lot of time 765 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 2: to build this team with Karl Anthony Towns. They still 766 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 2: went to the sixth game of the conference finals. But 767 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 2: you see the warts with Towns. It's the defense, the 768 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 2: decision making. He takes himself out of games. Sometimes, he 769 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 2: doesn't shoot threes the way you think he's going to 770 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,399 Speaker 2: shoot threes. All the problems that Minnesota had with him 771 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 2: showed up in the first season for the Knicks. If 772 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 2: they try to get into like a Janna Santa to 773 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 2: Kupo sweep stakes, he's probably the biggest piece that has 774 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 2: to goes back just because of salary matching and stuff. 775 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 2: Now can they even get into the mix for him 776 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 2: because they traded all of their picks for Michale Bridges. 777 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 2: Only time will tell, but I think that the Knicks 778 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 2: need to at least examine how they can be better 779 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 2: with Towns. Maybe around, maybe not, because the pairing with 780 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 2: Brunson and Towns it wasn't perfect. This team should have 781 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 2: been way better offensively, So there's yet another question for 782 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 2: the next well they do with Tids. This guy's not 783 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 2: an offensive genius. They're getting by on talent alone. Nope. 784 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 2: They certainly weren't maximizing the way Brunson and Towns can 785 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 2: work off each other. 786 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's two questions. I think to maximize that offense, 787 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 3: probably a ball handler beside Jalen Bruns so he doesn't 788 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 3: have to be Jalen Brunson all the time. And the 789 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 3: second thing is defensively beside Carl, is to have a 790 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 3: center who can drop Carl to the four and be 791 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 3: an incredible center defensively and that's it, and not have 792 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 3: to do not have to have the ball go through him, 793 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 3: because the ball is going through Jail. The ball is 794 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 3: going through Carl to some degree. If there's another guard 795 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 3: going through them. So yes, just making the Timberwolves light 796 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 3: and what they did with Rigobert beside him and being 797 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 3: the best defense. 798 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: Do they not have that with Mitchell Robinson. I mean 799 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: that was the whole point of obviously getting the starting lineup. 800 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 4: He can't play that much. I mean. 801 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 3: He's hurt, number one, number two, he gets tired. He 802 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 3: looks gassed running up and down the floor as a 803 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 3: starting center. And he's he's fine offensively, but they can't 804 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 3: put him to the free throw line or are they 805 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 3: risk putting him to the free throw line every single time. 806 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 3: He's not a great offensive player. He was awesome on 807 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 3: the offensive glass, but I don't know if he can 808 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 3: stay on the floor. That's a decent question. We haven't 809 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 3: seen the guy played. The guy played a month and 810 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 3: a half of the regular season. He played March, that's it, 811 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 3: and then a little April, and then he played in 812 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 3: the postseason. So that's a big ask. 813 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fascinating when you look at just the landscape 814 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: of the Eastern Conference too, like it does feel like 815 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: it's it's open. I mean, the Pacers are gonna be 816 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: the mix. Like they're damn good. They've proven that now. 817 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 1: But obviously with the Celtics and the Tatum injury. The Cavs, 818 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: you know, they win a lot of regular season games, 819 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: have had issues in the postseason. You know, we got 820 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: some teams we think on the rise. You know, if 821 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: Orlando's healthy, do they bump up? Obviously the Piston should 822 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 1: be better and continue to improve. There'll be a wild 823 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: card team in the mix. But you got like the 824 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: Bucks and stuff, maybe like figuring it out. It's it's 825 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: open and so yeah, is it a huge, huge, big 826 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: move for I mean, it fits you. I think you're 827 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: doing it. But anything else, maybe you just sort of 828 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: stamp pat and maybe like we are good. Maybe Tims 829 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: needs to get better at like leaning into the bench 830 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 1: and building up some of these guys a little bit 831 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: better for a postseason run. And maybe we just keep 832 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: this core because we like like what we have and 833 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 1: maybe that is the answer instead of like drastically changing it. 834 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: But we'll see what they do. I will see what 835 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 1: they do. Man, is cat a four or five? Is 836 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: the other part? I mean that goes to hand in 837 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: hand with like what you're saying, how do they view 838 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: him or as an organization? Could he just be your five? 839 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 2: No? 840 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: Probably not. 841 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 2: He can't. They can't defend. If he's going to be 842 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 2: your five, If he's gonna be your five, you have 843 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 2: to be the best offensive team in the league. And 844 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 2: I thought that's what the Knicks We're gonna try to do, 845 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 2: and they got to be a good offensive team. But 846 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 2: they kind of tailed off the second half of the season. 847 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 2: The games they won against the Pacers and the conference 848 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 2: finals they won with defense, which is kind of weird. 849 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: They never really just blew the Pacers out from a 850 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 2: scoring perspective. Game five, they were on fire, certainly, but 851 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 2: a lot of that I thought was because of how 852 00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 2: many turnovers they forced against Indiana. I mean, town best 853 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 2: run I guess was in the second court or what 854 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 2: was that Game three, fourth quarter He had twenty points. 855 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 2: He was the five there and they were just outscoring. Yeah, 856 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:08,720 Speaker 2: the Pacers. 857 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, we we definitely remember, like preseason talking about how 858 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: are they gonna how are teams gonna stop bruns and 859 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,479 Speaker 1: hell excuse me, brunts and cat like pick and pop action, 860 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:18,919 Speaker 1: like that's gonna be unstoppable. 861 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 2: Didn't see it a lot. 862 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: They didn't run a ton of it. Now they sort 863 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: of just run like they're like it's brunts and time 864 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: and it's cat time. Yes, and so maybe you want 865 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: a little bit more sinty synergy between those two guys, 866 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: maybe because I thought, we thought we're gonna see a 867 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: ton more of that, and we didn't end like eventual 868 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: Robinson was the main screen guy forts and eventually. Yeah, 869 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 1: and you brought up already like cats, like three point attempts, 870 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: like going way down, like way less of those for 871 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: his season, so we'll see him moving forward. Final start 872 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: on Thursday. 873 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, they did, But. 874 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: We're here on Tuesday to preview the thunder Pacers NB 875 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: Finals crazy to say a loud thunder Pacers, which again 876 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: starts on Thursday. But we'll be here Tuesday at ten 877 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: Eastern to go through all the talking points. The X 878 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: factors obviously make our prediction, so let's hear from you 879 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: in advance. Get in the comments. What are you watching 880 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 1: for in that series, who's an X factor and who 881 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 1: you got winning and how many games let us know 882 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 1: before we do that on Tuesday. 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The Thunder. 891 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 4: Favorites, right, big favorite. 892 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 3: Minus eight hundred whoa, you gotta bet eight hundred bucks 893 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 3: if you want to win one hundred. 894 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 2: But if you bet eight hundred bucks, you're gonna win 895 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:50,879 Speaker 2: one hundred dollars. 896 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go, Hey, there you go. 897 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 2: Every little bit counts. Embrace today people,