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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? John Middlecop three and Out

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Speaker 1: podcast July eleven, as I record semi early actually in

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Speaker 1: the morning, plan on playing a little golf this afternoon.

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Speaker 1: I want to bang this bad boy out. A lot

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Speaker 1: going on. Actually, uh Schefter tweeted this morning about something.

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Speaker 1: I'm about to dive right into a trade request if

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Speaker 1: the if the player is not paid immediately, We'll dive

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Speaker 1: into Melvin Gordon. The Texans now officially have a management problem.

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Speaker 1: Rob Robbie Gold, the forty Niners kicker at the UH

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Speaker 1: the celebrity golf tournament in Lake Tahoe. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: basically admitted, like he's not showing up to the San

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Speaker 1: Francisco forty Niners. The Niners have a problem. And then

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Speaker 1: we'll do over under his NFC West. Yeah, my probably

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Speaker 1: my favorite division, the NFC or a f C West.

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Speaker 1: Um sucker for the West coast and UH excited to

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Speaker 1: dive into that. And Middlecoff mailbag. I said I needed

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Speaker 1: some of you guys questions at John Middlecoff is my

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Speaker 1: Instagram handle, and you guys flooded them. I got millions

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Speaker 1: of questions. Will answer them a little later on the pod.

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Speaker 1: If you're new to the pot. I know a lot

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Speaker 1: of you guys. Are you want to get your questions answered,

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Speaker 1: just go to my Instagram, uh, direct messages, wide open,

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Speaker 1: slide up in there and ask whatever you want. So

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Speaker 1: that that's how that's how we do it on this show,

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Speaker 1: interact with the people. But but first let's dive into

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Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon and the Chargers, who I guess informed the

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Speaker 1: team or informed shafter I I don't even know that

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Speaker 1: he's not showing up the trading camp without a new

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Speaker 1: contract and if they're not gonna pay him, he demands

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Speaker 1: a trade. And here's the reality. Life's all about leverage.

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Speaker 1: That there was a story that I read this morning,

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Speaker 1: uh at the gym that Kauai Leonard's uncle, uncle Dennis,

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Speaker 1: who basically acts as like his agent. I mean he

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Speaker 1: has an agent, but that's his guy. Uncle Dennis, was

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Speaker 1: the manding things from the Toronto Raptors that were insane.

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Speaker 1: They basically said that like things that we've never heard of. Well,

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Speaker 1: I got news for you. Kawahi Leonard has one of

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Speaker 1: the leverage and the Raptors have nothing. If he wants

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Speaker 1: to ask for the moon, he asked for the moon.

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Speaker 1: Remember when Lebron James was asking for crazy stuff and

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Speaker 1: pat Riley said no, he just left. You know, because

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Speaker 1: Lebron James had a bunch of leverage. We see it

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Speaker 1: all the time. If you knock on my door right

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Speaker 1: now and say I want to buy your house and

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Speaker 1: I say no, I got all the leverage. Well, in

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Speaker 1: this case, the Chargers have all the leverage because running

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Speaker 1: backs in two thousand nineteen have never had more, have

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Speaker 1: never had less leverage in the league. That's just a reality.

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Speaker 1: And Melvin Gordon was a former first round pick. They

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Speaker 1: draft them high. Do you know what, here's another thing

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Speaker 1: that kind of bothered me. I was thinking about this

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Speaker 1: this morning. In two thousand fifteen, when Melvin Gordon looked

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Speaker 1: like a royal bust. I mean, he was terrible. He

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Speaker 1: did not score a touchdown. He averaged three and a

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Speaker 1: He please started thirteen games, playing in fourteen. Another thing

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Speaker 1: he doesn't playing sixteen games. I didn't see the Charger

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Speaker 1: saying we're gonna cut him, We're gonna throw him to

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Speaker 1: the Wolves. No, they stuck by him. And then he's

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Speaker 1: had a pre solid career. He has become a really

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Speaker 1: good player, and now he wants a new contract. He's

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Speaker 1: scheduled to make five point six million dollars. You play

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Speaker 1: a position that's easily replaceable, and they like you. But

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Speaker 1: I got news for you. You You don't have any leverage

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Speaker 1: in this situation because one like you're you're getting paid

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Speaker 1: five and a half million dollars. What do you want

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Speaker 1: ten million bucks? So I'm gonna give you a nuke contract. Well,

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Speaker 1: a couple of things. You've never proven you can stay healthy.

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Speaker 1: You played sixteen games one time in your career. First

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Speaker 1: And again, I like Melvin Gordon. He's a good player,

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Speaker 1: but this notion like he's Zeke Elliott or some irreplaceable

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Speaker 1: that most running backs are replaceable. One you couldn't. Who

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Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon? I was thinking about this this morning. Who

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Speaker 1: saw a tweet that the Baseball All Star Game outraged

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Speaker 1: the NBA All Star Game. But whatever, Ajor League Baseball players,

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Speaker 1: if you're a good player, hell, I mean Bryce Harper

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Speaker 1: baseball is kind of weird. But in basketball, superstar players

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Speaker 1: No one gives a ship. Every team is lined up

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Speaker 1: They're on a different planet. Then there's the quarterbacks who

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Speaker 1: I don't know. If I was Tom to LESCo, I'd say,

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Speaker 1: So I Melvin Gordon can ask and tell Schefter all

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Speaker 1: the man want to be taken care of. They don't

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Speaker 1: When Snapchat hit about four dollars, I'm like, I I

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Speaker 1: I don't really quite understand the leadership of Twitter at Jack,

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Speaker 1: are involved in it. Right, Like you've been on companies

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Speaker 1: with good management. Well, who's got the best management in

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Speaker 1: run operation. Like I believe in management from the top

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Speaker 1: Fortune five companies. It's all they all have periled. It's

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Speaker 1: an outlier, but clearly Cassario and Scott Pioli have played

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Speaker 1: you boatloads of money, and you say you want to

423
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Speaker 1: live in Chicago. I got news for you. Life ain't

424
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Speaker 1: this simple. And most people you know, in most jobs,

425
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 1: even if they're good at their profession, don't ever sniff

426
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Speaker 1: this type money. And I kick paying a kick or

427
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Speaker 1: five million dollars. We can argue that all day long. Now,

428
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Speaker 1: Robbie Gold has been really good for the forty Niners.

429
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,120
Speaker 1: But like, bro, just sign the contract play this year.

430
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Speaker 1: What are you gonna do intentionally miss kicks? Because we've

431
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Speaker 1: talked about that around here, Like what if week one

432
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Speaker 1: he shows up and intentionally miss kicks. I'll tell you

433
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Speaker 1: what happened. I think Joe's Daley or a player in

434
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Speaker 1: the forty Niners would legitimately kick the ship out of

435
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Speaker 1: him in the locker room, and they would be and

436
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: I would one have their back if they beat his

437
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,360
Speaker 1: ass in the locker room. Robbie Gold is not gonna

438
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 1: intentionally miss kicks. It's just not gonna show up. Well,

439
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call his bluff and I'm sure that the

440
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 1: forty Niners are You're not, You're gonna pass up you

441
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Speaker 1: do the math, five million dollars divide by seventeen weeks.

442
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but that's pretty big direct deposits.

443
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: So again, your children, you're gonna pass up that cash.

444
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call bs on that. But his problems now,

445
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 1: like he is becoming a major problem for the forty Niners,

446
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 1: but he has a little leverage because they do kind

447
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 1: of need him. But they're not gonna cut him and

448
00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 1: they should not. When I say cut, release from the contract, whatever,

449
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: send the franchise tag like no Robbie. Because every franchise

450
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: the NFL is a is a pro management league. The

451
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: management does not get pushed around by kickers. Sometimes gets

452
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Speaker 1: pushed around by quarterback or a wide receiver or a

453
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: pass rusher, but a kicker, a thirty six year old kicker,

454
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: is not especially an organization that is very progressive with money,

455
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: like they're always ahead of the curve. They're always willing

456
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Speaker 1: to pay guys to play well in the uniform, like

457
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 1: the fort Nighters are not cheap, but they have official

458
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Speaker 1: Robbie Gold problem and uh, I forty Niner side on

459
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Speaker 1: this but I do think it could get kind of dicey,

460
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Speaker 1: and I don't really understand what Robbie Gold's endgame is

461
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Speaker 1: in all this. Uh my recommendation would be, bro show

462
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Speaker 1: up for four months, kick make five million dollars. They

463
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Speaker 1: probably are not going to franchise you a second time.

464
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Speaker 1: Then you can go wherever you want. If you want

465
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Speaker 1: to play for the Bears, stay in Chicago and play

466
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Speaker 1: for the Bears. But you're doing your children and your

467
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Speaker 1: wife and your children's children a disservice by holding out.

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Speaker 1: Here's the other thing I do if I was forty niners.

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Speaker 1: Typically in a contract holdout, like for the Chargers, Let's

470
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Speaker 1: say Gordon holds out three weeks and he comes back

471
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Speaker 1: and they sign him to contract, they wave all the fines.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't wave one freaking fine for Robbie Gold, So

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Speaker 1: that five million dollars would immediately turn into like, if

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Speaker 1: I can find you, i'd find you the maximount. I

475
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Speaker 1: don't know what that number is, fifty grand grant, whatever

476
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Speaker 1: the number is. Every day you miss and then when

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Speaker 1: you finally do show up week one, I'm giving you

478
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Speaker 1: the invoice. Here's what yell, buddy. So when you're when

479
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Speaker 1: your paycheck comes week one, there's gonna be a large

480
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Speaker 1: amount missing. There might be zero, because we're finding the

481
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Speaker 1: living ship out of you every day you miss. You're

482
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Speaker 1: not holding us over a barrel. That is not the

483
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Speaker 1: way this league works from a kicker standpoint. So Robbie Gold,

484
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Speaker 1: get ready to be fine, because I would find you

485
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Speaker 1: until the cows come home. Okay, let's dive into the

486
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Speaker 1: over unders for this week. The NFC West, a division

487
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Speaker 1: that it's near and dear to my heart, my favorite,

488
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Speaker 1: you know, one of my favorite divisions in football. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the forty niners of Ram Seattle on the Cardinals. Obviously,

490
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Speaker 1: the Rams have won of back to back years. Uh,

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Speaker 1: They've hosted you know, two years ago, they got beat

492
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Speaker 1: in the first round. Last year, made the Super Bowl

493
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Speaker 1: Seattle for the first time in five years. Missed the

494
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Speaker 1: playoffs two years ago, but then bounced back this year.

495
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: The Cardinals had a one and done coach now of

496
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Speaker 1: a new coach. The forty nine is kind of the

497
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Speaker 1: media darling. Last year, Jimmy Garoppolow goes on Week three,

498
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Speaker 1: they sucked. They get the number two overall pick. Kind

499
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Speaker 1: of fascinating division. My overall macro view on this division

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Speaker 1: is I think the Rams come back to earth a

501
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Speaker 1: little bit this year. Let's start with them. They're the

502
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Speaker 1: heavy favorites to win. You got a bet two hundred

503
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Speaker 1: dollars to win a hundred dollars and then win the division.

504
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: And they're over under his ten and a half. The

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Speaker 1: best player in their team not named Aaron Donald is

506
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Speaker 1: Todd Gurley. He has knee tendonitis arthritis. I don't even

507
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: know what, but it's not good. He's never gonna be

508
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: the same. We have to come to grips with that.

509
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: It's over for Todd Gurley being an elite running back.

510
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: Well is it over for them being an elite offense?

511
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: Because they were an a lead offense with Todd Gurley.

512
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 1: He changed the game. Now they drafted running back in

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Speaker 1: the second round or in the second day, Like, that's

514
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Speaker 1: a pretty big red flag. That's basically the team. I

515
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: say it all the time. I don't judge you by

516
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Speaker 1: what you say. Pete Carroll's like Colin Kaepernick's the starting quarterback.

517
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: He refused to sign him as his backup. Liar, we

518
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Speaker 1: hang our hat on this show and in my life,

519
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: no frauds, So don't be a hypocrite with your words

520
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Speaker 1: and Todd Gurley. They can say whatever they want about

521
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Speaker 1: Todd Gurley's knee. You drafted running back on the second

522
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Speaker 1: day of the draft. You're telling me what you think

523
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Speaker 1: of Todd Gurley, that he's in trouble. So they lost

524
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Speaker 1: the Dominican Sue who was hit or miss, but to me,

525
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Speaker 1: the biggest thing they got. And they lost LaMarcus Joiner,

526
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Speaker 1: like they lost some players, but to me, Todd Gurley

527
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Speaker 1: not being the same is the only thing that matters.

528
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Speaker 1: McVeigh has proven big time coach, Wade Phillips, big time

529
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. I just think, to me, this might be

530
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Speaker 1: like an eight win team this year, Like there's there's

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Speaker 1: nothing wrong with having a down year being a eight

532
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Speaker 1: win Like. I don't think they're gonna be like four

533
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Speaker 1: or five wins. They're gonna be good. They're gonna be competitive.

534
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Speaker 1: But the ten and a half over under, I'm taking

535
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Speaker 1: the under. It's actually one of my favorite unders of

536
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Speaker 1: the season. I'm going under rams ten and a half

537
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Speaker 1: and I would not bet them to win the division. Now,

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Speaker 1: the team that's consistently been the best team in this

539
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: division for the last six or seven years. The Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: They're kind of a fascinating one. When I think the

541
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Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks, I closed my eyes. I think nine or

542
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: ten wins. I think their culture they showed last year

543
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: they just prevailed. My favorite over unders in any sport

544
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: the last like ten years was the Spurs. Last year

545
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: it was like forty two games. Like, who you think

546
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: the Spurs gonna be five hundred? They've made the playoffs

547
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: for twenty straight years. What the Spurs do? They made

548
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: the playoffs again. I think they won forty eight games.

549
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: There's culture. What what chips say? Culture is bigger than talent.

550
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 1: That's not that's bullshit. Talent plus culture is greater than anything.

551
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 1: And that's what Seattle consistently has because they cultivate it,

552
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: they develop it. Pete Carroll's an elite coach. On Schneider's

553
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,160
Speaker 1: an elite GM, Russell Wilson's an elite quarterback. They win

554
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: freaking games. They have a culture on defense that if

555
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: you come across the middle, they're hitting you in the teeth.

556
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: And they don't care about the rules, the softness of football.

557
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: They buckle their chinstrap and they hit people freaking hard

558
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: and you're watching, You're like, who are these guys? Where's

559
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: camp Chancellor Richards from? All those guys are gone. They

560
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: got the Griffin Twins, they got all these new guys

561
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: that you know aren't as good as those guys, but

562
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: the mindset and the standard in that organization has not changed.

563
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: On defense, they hit people, and they hit people horror

564
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: now from a personnel like kind of in the nitty

565
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: gritty and the weeds here. They didn't lose their third

566
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Speaker 1: best player last year. They traded him Frank Clark. Obviously,

567
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: Russell is their best player. Bobby Wagoner is our second

568
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: best player. Frank Clark was their third best player. He's gone.

569
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Speaker 1: They signed Ziggy Ansa. They drafted I think L. J. Collier.

570
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: What was that the Chargers pick. I know they drafted

571
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: a first round pass rusher, but Frank Clark's a big,

572
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: big hole for them. So can Ziggy the first round

573
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: pick equal that? I don't know this. This is what

574
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: I'm talking about winning a division because you can get

575
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Speaker 1: him plus three hunh or to win the division. Uh.

576
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: I'm confident though, Seattle is gonna be good. Uh. The quarterback.

577
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: They have the best quarterback in the division by a mile.

578
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Speaker 1: They're the best coach in division. You know, pretty well

579
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Speaker 1: established just based on his resume. They have the best

580
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Speaker 1: consistent culture in the division. I'm just just I think

581
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Speaker 1: they're a playoff team, or at least competing to get

582
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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I would say, my, he's not. They're

583
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Speaker 1: not even a sleeper in this division. Just from a

584
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Speaker 1: value standpoint. The forty Niners over unders eight Kyle Shanahan

585
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Speaker 1: who I think the entire league if he became a

586
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: free agent tomorrow, ten teams would hire him. I think

587
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: it's pretty well established. Everyone in the NFL thinks it's

588
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: a big time coach. Well, if you're a big time coach,

589
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: you can't go three years about making the playoffs. That

590
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: is not how the NFL works. You have to make

591
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: He's too good of a coach not to make the playoffs.

592
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Speaker 1: He hasn't come close the last two years. Well, the

593
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: first year started the year with Brian Hoyer. They sucked.

594
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: Last year, Jimmy Garoppolo got hurt. We can't even judge him.

595
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Speaker 1: This year. They have a big off season. Obviously, Jimmy

596
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: comes back from the a c L. I've been a practice.

597
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: He's good. George Kittle they draft Deebo Samuel's I think

598
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: Dante Petti is gonna take a big step. They go

599
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: signed Tevin Coleman. Their offense should be a lot better.

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Speaker 1: To me, the biggest question mark on the team is defense.

601
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: Well what do they go do? They go get d Ford,

602
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: who you know, flawed player or whatever, but they're desperate

603
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: for just a true speed pass rusher. They draft Nick Bosa,

604
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Speaker 1: So now they're front has DeForrest Buckner who's a badass,

605
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Speaker 1: and d Ford and Nick Bosa and Solomon Thomas. I'm

606
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: not a big Solomon Thomas guy, but I will say

607
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: being a practice he slimmed down, he looks a little

608
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: bit better. They're gonna win up front. And you look

609
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: at teams like Pittsburgh and Kansas City for example, their

610
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: defensive secondaries have been terrible the last couple of years,

611
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: so even last year. But what did both those two

612
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: teams do? They dominated as a pass rushing team. They

613
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Speaker 1: were near the league lead leaders in sacks. So if

614
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Speaker 1: you can sack the quarterback, you can get by with

615
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: shitty defensive backs. Now, you obviously got to score points

616
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: on offense, but if you can score points and rush

617
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: the pastor your team is gonna be good. I think

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Speaker 1: the four Nags are gonna score points, and I think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be a top six seven, you know team

620
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: in sacks and pressures at the end of the season. Again,

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Speaker 1: this is in theory. I'm not the biggest Nick Bosa guy,

622
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,239
Speaker 1: he's already hurt. But you draft a guy at too, like,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, he better be pretty damn good year one

624
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: or else they're getting blasted for that pick. And I'm

625
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: already kind of on tilt on the pick to begin with.

626
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: But if you're just betting on him being solid, to

627
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: go along with Defod and Forrest Bucks, because the one

628
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: thing you'd say is, even if you're not the biggest

629
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa guy, he's on a big time defensive line. Like,

630
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: they's got a lot of good players. So I I

631
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: just liked this team. I think they're a fringe playoff team.

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Speaker 1: I think they're a nine or ten win team. I'm

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Speaker 1: taking the over on eight. I think the plus, you know,

634
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Speaker 1: basically five and a half to one is pretty tasty

635
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: to win the division because every year you see worst

636
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Speaker 1: of first. Now they weren't worst. Actually they know the

637
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: Cardinals were worse, but like They're a type team that

638
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: I could see, you know, winning ten games. I actually

639
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: been thinking a lot about this. I think ten games

640
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: is a lock to win this division. I think there's

641
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: a chance, like the the team that wins the NFC

642
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: West is nine and seven. Seattle are in the Rams

643
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: right there at eight or nine wins too. Now I

644
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Speaker 1: like the Rams under ten and a half, and I

645
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: feel probably more comfortable date and eight. But if you

646
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Speaker 1: tell me nine and seven wins division, I see it.

647
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: And then the Arizona Cardinals. I think the Arizona there's

648
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: a chance the Arizona Cardinals are the worst team in football.

649
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: Uh there by far, by far, on the side I

650
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: use the biggest underdog in the NFC to win their

651
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,959
Speaker 1: own division, the only team close to them. I think

652
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: it's like Detroit at eleven to one, they are twenty

653
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: five to one to win the NFC West. I was

654
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: thinking about this the other night laying in bed. This

655
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: is what I do kind of sick. I have no

656
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: life that the Cardinals that we know for a fact

657
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: that a couple of these coaches are going to be

658
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: a disaster in this hiring cycle, like immediately, no, a disaster,

659
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: like we knew pretty early on, like Van's Joseph that

660
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: ain't working. Steve Wilkes, that's a problem. I think it's

661
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: gonna be Lafleur, but Zach Taylor Lafleur, it's not gonna

662
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: be arians Uh. And Cliff Kingsbury, I would say a

663
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: pretty good luck one of those three. After year one,

664
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: we think this guy is no business being a head coach. Listen,

665
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: I get this guy was successful in in college, but

666
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: to think Cliff Kingsbury is gonna come to the Cardinals

667
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: and have any success seems a little crazy. I also

668
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: just think it's kind of crazy to think that he's

669
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Speaker 1: just gonna come to the NFL and score a bunch

670
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: of points. He runs this spread up tip offense. Yeah,

671
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: a lot of teams do. Now, that's not new. We

672
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: see it all the time. I don't know what he's

673
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: necessarily bringing to the table that's gonna work and is

674
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Speaker 1: there a chance? And again, I like Kyler Murray. I

675
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: thought he was a big time prospect because he has

676
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: He does one thing really well as he's accurately throwing

677
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: the football. But their chance he stinks, their offensive lines atrocious,

678
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: their receivers beside Larry Fitzgerald. They're depending on all these

679
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: young guy Christian Kirk and all the guys they drafted.

680
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: So they drafted like multiple slot receivers. I was gonna

681
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: say DK Metcalf, but they drafted a keen Butler. I

682
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: think the guy from Iole State Isabella from I don't know,

683
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: Maine or Massachusetts or one of those little schools in

684
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 1: the Northeast. Like, are these guys gonna be good Year one,

685
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: especially in a division that forty and I can really

686
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: rush the pastor Cardinals old line sucks the I mean,

687
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald could beat the Cardinals offensive line one oh five.

688
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: And then Seattle just has a mindset they're gonna kick

689
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: the ship out of you every time they play. I

690
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: think there's a chance that Cardinals win like two games.

691
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's a chance they are a

692
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 1: royal royal disaster. So there's a reason they're the biggest

693
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: underdog because they're the worst team in this division. So

694
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Speaker 1: I like the forty niners over. I like the Rams under.

695
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 1: And again, when I say under a ten and a half,

696
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: that could be nine wins, that could be ten winns. Hell,

697
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: they might go ten six And I don't think they're

698
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: a ten win team. I think they come back to

699
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: Earth eight and eight. I like Seattle over eight and

700
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: al half and the Cardinals five. I'm taking the end

701
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: or worst week push. Uh. I'm just I'm betting against

702
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury. Like, you can't win the Big twelve where

703
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 1: there's no defense. I just don't see win in the NFL.

704
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: I I just do not see it. Okay, Middlecoff mail

705
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: Bag time. Uh. Like I said, I recorded earlier because

706
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 1: the game plan was to go play golf. I did that,

707
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: but I didn't finish, and so now I'm home and

708
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 1: I need to record the Middlecoff mail back. So that

709
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: is the game plan right now. Let's see if these

710
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: Middlecoff mail bag questions can load. I just saw that

711
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook has been traded for Chris Paul. Listen, I

712
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: love the NFL. Uh, It's better than the NBA. But

713
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: the NBA has had a pretty incredible offseason, you know,

714
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard, Paul George, Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook, Anthony Davis,

715
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: Kemba Walker, I'm sure, I'm Kyrie, Kevin Durant. I mean,

716
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 1: think about the players that moved team this offseason. Holy hell,

717
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: that's insane. I mean, that'd be the equivalent of like

718
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Andrew Luck, Russell Wilson, Odell Beckham, Khalil Mack,

719
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: and Aaron Donald. I'll move teams in the same offseason.

720
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: Just that will never happen in the NFL, which is

721
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: a good thing. But wow, what what an offseason? Hey,

722
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: big fan? Love the podcast, me too, Steelers fan? Between

723
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: A B Bell and Big Band, who do you believe

724
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: will win the breakup? And what are the metrics are

725
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: you using determining your answer? It's a good question. Well,

726
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: let's start with the Steelers. If the Steelers make the playoffs,

727
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: regardless what the other two do, you're in good shape.

728
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: You won like you won your half. If Ben plays well.

729
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 1: Juju is good. I know. Juju told Schefter that James

730
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: Washington has been really good. They've been training together. I

731
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: always put stock the Steelers draft a wide receiver in

732
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: the second or third round, that guy is gonna be good.

733
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Speaker 1: They drafted him two years ago in the second round.

734
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: Juju was what three years ago in the second round,

735
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: and he's a Bahler. Uh Now, Jude jew was a

736
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: better college player than James Washington, but he's different. James

737
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: is a deep threat, uh and I think that I

738
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be good. So if they make if

739
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: if the Steamers win the division, regardless what Levian and

740
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 1: Antonio doing a vacuum, they've won their half. To me, Levian,

741
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: if he just balls out and the Jets are competitive,

742
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: like to me that that was just a no win situation.

743
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: The Antonio one is a little different. If Antonio continues

744
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: the ball, puts Derek back in the MVP consideration, the

745
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 1: Raiders are competitive, then I think he can win that scenario.

746
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: Right to me, the Levian deal, they offered him money,

747
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: Levian refused to take the franchise tag. Like I, I

748
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: don't necessarily know if there was any other outcome there.

749
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: It just kind of is what it was. You know,

750
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: the Antonio one was a little dicey, right, that was

751
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: on you know that Mike Tomlin Roethlisberger to me that one,

752
00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna be able somewhat. To I, I would guess

753
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: say there's a winner and a loser. But you know,

754
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: these situations are hard. I mean, the Raiders probably aren't

755
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 1: gonna be very good. I think more than more likely

756
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: than not. Like Antonio, How's Antonio gonna match his production

757
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: from the last six years with Raiders. I don't know.

758
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,959
Speaker 1: I don't see it unless Derek is awesome and Derek

759
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: hasn't been good last couple of years. Hoping you can

760
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: help me out with the bet. Who do you like

761
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: for more yards and TVs? Rivers or Jimmy g I'm

762
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: a Niner fan and feel good about Jimmy, But thinking

763
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: about big money here, that's a good question. Well, I

764
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: think the safest bet if you just look at it

765
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: on the surface, Jimmy Garoppolo was paid, played two games

766
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: in New England. He played five games in San Francisco,

767
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: so that's seven. Then he started three games last year.

768
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: That's ten games. He started ten games in his career,

769
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Speaker 1: and two of those he's been hurt. So right now,

770
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: every five games Jimmy the averages he gets hurt. Google

771
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: filled Rivers game log. I'm are you sure? Philip Rivers

772
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: played sixteen games basically every season, So I think the

773
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: safe bet is Rivers. Keenan Allen Uh I almost called

774
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: him Mike Wallace. Uh, Mike Williams is his name. The

775
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: the dude I'm blanking right now, the dude from Clemson

776
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: that makes plays. I like that guy. Uh, you know

777
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry coming back, I sounded like stephen A. Smith

778
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon. If he does come back, I mean he's

779
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 1: catches fifty balls a year. I would say Philip Rivers

780
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: just now again, I'm a Jimmy G. Homer in the

781
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: sense that I think Jimmy G's a baller. But until

782
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: you prove you, Jimmy, She's never played. He's played ten

783
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: games in his career, started ten games in his career.

784
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Speaker 1: Now granted for four years beside the one when Brady

785
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: was suspended. You're never gonna start over Brady. But still

786
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 1: we just haven't seen him on the field. Hey, John,

787
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: love the show me too. I know you get a

788
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: lot of Brown's questions. I I do, and I don't

789
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: blame you. Guys. If you're a Eveland Browns fan, you

790
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: should be fired the hell up Youah Baker Mayfield, Odell Beckham,

791
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry. Your team is relevant nationally? I got Nope.

792
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: I love that I get a lot of Brown's questions.

793
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 1: I love that I get a lot of Colts questions.

794
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: Imagine if this was an NBA podcast, you think like

795
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Timberwolves would hit me up. I mean, I

796
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: get a ton of Bengals questions, like a ton of

797
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: Giants questions. A great part about the NFL all your teams,

798
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: the Giants maybe, but most of your teams have a shot.

799
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Speaker 1: And the Browns for the first time. It feels like

800
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 1: of my adult life, like anything less than the playoffs

801
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: gonna be let down. Best case scenario is for the

802
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 1: Browns this season? What is your best case scenario for

803
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: the Browns? A f C North champs, a f C

804
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Speaker 1: title game. Just want your thoughts. I'll say this, If

805
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Speaker 1: the Browns win the division, if they win the a

806
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: f C North, that is a major freaking success. That

807
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: would mean more than likely you win double digit games.

808
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: You've won the division for the first time. And I

809
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I'm not a Browns guy, so

810
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Speaker 1: I don't know the exact number. Feels like I don't

811
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Speaker 1: know twenty five years you would host a playoff game,

812
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Speaker 1: even if you were to lose in the first round.

813
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 1: I would equate it to mcveigh's first year in l A.

814
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Speaker 1: They won the division, they lost in the first round

815
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: of the Ramps. That was a raging success. So to me,

816
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: anything Uh, if you made the playoffs, that's a success too.

817
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: If you win, like the Steelers won the division e

818
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: eleven wins and you won nine or ten and you

819
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: made a wild card, that's success too. But if you

820
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: won the division and losing the first round of the

821
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: playoffs or win a wild card and losing the first round,

822
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: to me, that's a that's a home run. Now, obviously

823
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: you'd love to win a playoff game and all that stuff,

824
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: but to me, that's gravy. I mean Baker's second year,

825
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: Freddy Kitchen's first year, you make the playoffs, uh, everything,

826
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: Like every playoff game you play in, it is gravy.

827
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Speaker 1: A playoff game for the Cleveland Browns. I mean, ideally

828
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: you want to win the division so you can host

829
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: a playoff game, but winning a wild card depending on

830
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: how the division set up. Like imagine if you won

831
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: the fifth wild card and the fourth vision. Let's say

832
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: you won nine games and and you're the probably wouldn't

833
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: be a five seed. Let's say you won ten games

834
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Speaker 1: and you were the five seed and the Steelers won

835
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: eleven and they were the four seed. You'd feel pretty

836
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: good about your chances, especially if let's say you split

837
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 1: during the regular season. Uh, it's not like the Steelers

838
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: or some juggernaut. So I'm bullish on the Browns, though

839
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm apprehensive on the fact that it's just hard for

840
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: me to say they're a lock playoff team. I mean,

841
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Speaker 1: Baker started twelve games. Freddy Kitchen has been a head

842
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: coach for zero games. I don't know, we'll see. I'm

843
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: a big Lions fan and wondering, given Stafford is entering

844
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: as an eleventh year in the league, when should the

845
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: Lions start thinking about drafting another quarterback to groom the future.

846
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: I would say this is a pretty big year Patrician

847
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: in his second year. If Stafford kind of ships the

848
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: bed and they win five or six games, you know

849
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: we'll be coming down the home stretching at Stafford. If

850
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: they're competitive and they win eight or nine games or

851
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: compete for the playoffs. He's kind of a made guy now.

852
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: Granted they paid him big cash couple of years ago,

853
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 1: so he's probably it's a moot point in the sense

854
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: that you're in bed with him this year and next year.

855
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: But I would say even next year, you know, because

856
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to cut him, you may

857
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback in this draft. You know, if you're

858
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: drafted in the top ten, that wouldn't be out of

859
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: their own possibility. I'm I'm a I have a soft

860
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: spot from Matt Stafford. Uh again, I have a soft

861
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: spot for big arm playmakers, and I know he has

862
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: his flaws, but you know, I kind of lean on

863
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: the side. Can you imagine if Matt Stafford when he

864
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: was twenty two years old, would have been drafted by

865
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, would have been drafted by Andy Reid, would

866
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: have got to play for a McVeigh and Kyle Shanahan,

867
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: how his career might have changed. I mean, I mean seriously,

868
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: you know he was not Matt Ryan. Like Matt Ryan.

869
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan is the type player who would have succeeded

870
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 1: for anyone. He's just slow and steady and he's gonna

871
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: figure it out. Matt Stafford is a little more boom

872
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: or bust, and he happened to go to you know,

873
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: I I said this last week, like the Lions ever

874
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: won a playoff game in the franchise history, and someone

875
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: tweeted me, I guess the nineties they won one, or

876
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: maybe in the last like thirte years. Like he went

877
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: to the Lions. I hate to break it to you,

878
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: but the Detroit Lions. And I'm not even trying to

879
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: be an asshole or anything or just kind of a

880
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: joke franchise. And I don't think Matt Matt Stafford necessarily

881
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: as a joke player, just like Barry Sanders wasn't a

882
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 1: joke player, just like Calvin Johnson wasn't a joke player.

883
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: But when you're part of that franchise, you're just gonna

884
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: lose more in your win and I I can't put

885
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 1: that all on Stafford. I've heard rumors that the Ravens

886
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: won't be running Lamar as much this year, and he's

887
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: made progress with his throwing do you believe? Do you

888
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: believe that? And how good will he have to be

889
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: for them to make the playoffs? Well, their defense is

890
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: gonna be as good, so their offense is gonna have

891
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 1: to be dramatically better. They drafted Marquis uh Marky's Brown,

892
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown from Oklahoma. He's supposed to be healthy. They

893
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: signed mark Ingram, so you know they should be a

894
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: little more explosive on offense. Again in theory, I just

895
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I have a hard time sitting on

896
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: my couch on a Sunday morning and on the West Coast,

897
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,240
Speaker 1: the Ravens games typically start at ten am and flipping

898
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: on Ravens Browns or Ravens Jets. I mean, I don't

899
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: know if they play the Jets, but you catch my

900
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: drift and seeing Lamar throw for like three hundred yards.

901
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm just talking on random games, let alone when they

902
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: play the Steelers, the Patriots, whoever the good teams are

903
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: they play like how many? How many three? Ask yourself this,

904
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: if you're Ravens fan, close your eyes and imagine the

905
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: season just ended. You played sixteen games, Lamar made it

906
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: out healthy. How many three hundred yard games there's Lamar

907
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: Jackson have on his ledger? I mean it's hard to see,

908
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 1: like less than three? You know. The other guy left

909
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: out Andrews the tight the tight end from from Oklahoma.

910
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: He's he's really good player. They drafted. Is Hayden Hurst

911
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: on the Ravens too. I mean they do have some weapons.

912
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: Like if you told me that, like Derek Carr was

913
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: our quarterback or something, I would be a little more

914
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 1: bullish on their Yeah, just Hayden Hurst is a Baltimore Raven.

915
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: I mean they got They do have some talent on offense.

916
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna people think I'm a hater, But Hayden Hurst,

917
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: he only got thirteen ball He's obviously hurt last year. Yeah,

918
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: I mean, there's not much excuse. They got multiple tight ends.

919
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 1: They got a legit deep red. They got a pretty

920
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 1: sweet all you know, kind of complete running back. Again,

921
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: when I say sweet, mark Ingram's is a very very

922
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: solid running back. He's like a He's like a better version.

923
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: He's like a poor man's Frank Gore. Kind of does

924
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: everything well but nothing spectacular. But he's not that good,

925
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I like mark Ingram. I've

926
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: always liked mark Ingram. Hes kind of turned around his

927
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: career a couple of years ago. Great podcast. You're massively

928
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 1: underrated and deserve more recognition. God, is this my mom?

929
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: You said you need some questions, So here you go.

930
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: Which position in the NFL has the widest gap between

931
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: the best player and the second best player at the position?

932
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: Actually heard I think we're Silos podcast. He did this

933
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: question and they all said Aaron Donald. The problem I

934
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: have with Aaron Donald is like when Fletcher Cox is

935
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: pretty freaking good, like Aaron Donald's a Hall of Famer,

936
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: but Fletcher Cox hall of Famer too, So I don't

937
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: think the gap is that crazy. Obviously, quarterback, you know,

938
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: the top three four relatively close. The receivers are all jumbled.

939
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 1: I mean the running back you'd go, well, Todd Gurley, shot,

940
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: Levian hasn't played in the year. Kamara isn't really a workhorse,

941
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: you know, between the tackle guy, but he's pretty remarkable.

942
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: I mean, Zeke is probably the best all around running back.

943
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: But if Levian solid, he's pretty damn good too. Uh.

944
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: I'd have to text on my pro scouting buddies about

945
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:53,439
Speaker 1: the line. Uh, Luke, Kickley, Bobby Wagner pretty close. Who's

946
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: the best corner right now? Ramsey? Yeah, I don't know

947
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: that's that's a hell of a a Shoually. I don't

948
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: have a great answer for you. I would say the

949
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: biggest gap in the NFL is between Belichick and the

950
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: second best coach. Darius Guys is one of the top

951
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: running backs coming out of last year's draft, but was

952
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: missed the season because he towards a c L. What

953
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: should we expect from him coming into this year? I mean, obviously,

954
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 1: everyone I knew in the league, loved him coming out

955
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: of college. I liked him a lot coming out of college.

956
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: Did have some character, some red flags off the field,

957
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 1: but that shouldn't necessarily hurt his ability to play if

958
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: he's healthy. I would say, you know, it depends who

959
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: their quarterback is. If case Keendom starts half the year,

960
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: then you know what's his name from Ohio State, Dwayne Haskins.

961
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: I think the Redskins are just gonna suck. You know,

962
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: I'm a big Chris Thompson fan. I love Chris Thompson.

963
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: If Darius Guy starts balling and Chris Thompson should be had.

964
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a we talked a lot about, like

965
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: NBA trade pieces, people should be all over trading for

966
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: Chris Thompson. So I'd say eight to nine yards would

967
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: be a pretty successful, you know, quote unquote rookie year.

968
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: The nerds at PFF have concluded that statistically, the Green

969
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: Bay Packers had the best old line in the league

970
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: last season. They just gave up the third most acts.

971
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 1: Is this the Is this a flaw of Aaron Rodgers

972
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: or just nerds being nerds? Uh, that's a good question.

973
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 1: Is it nerds being nerds? One fairness the PF guys,

974
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: and I don't. I don't agree with your grading because

975
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: I don't even know what it means. Like you you

976
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: say the guy scored a ninety five, Like, I got

977
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: no freaking clue what that means. Now, if you say,

978
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: if you rank the players, then I can follow that

979
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: a little bit better. I'll say this, like Rogers, like

980
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, the Houston Texans, I think gave up the

981
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: most sacks in the league. They had. You know, everyone

982
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 1: views them as having the worst offensive line, and I

983
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: don't think that's necessarily not true. But Deshaun Watson and

984
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: Kaepernick was a lot like this too. When you do

985
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: like three sixties in the pocket because you're gonna scramble,

986
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: your offensive line doesn't really know what's going on. I

987
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: remember talking to Joe Staley about this one time, about Apepernick.

988
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: Like this was before Kaepernick ever knelt and became like

989
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: a political figure. This was just when he was a

990
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: football player and you could just talk about him normally

991
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: with other people. And I remember interviewing at a radio

992
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: show and interview in Joe Staley, and there was we

993
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: were interviewing the day after a game and he'd given

994
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: up a sack, but it really wasn't his fault because

995
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: Kaepernick like did a three sixty in the pocket. Rogers

996
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: a little less version of that. I mean, he's obviously

997
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: much better than Kaepernick, but he does do some weird

998
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: ship like because he can freelance and that's you know,

999
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: arguably besides just when he's on in the pocket, his

1000
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: greatest strength is scrambling, keeping plays alive and then throwing

1001
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: dimes outside of the pocket, both behind the line of scrimmage. Yeah,

1002
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: it can be hard to block, you know, It's just

1003
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: it's not the easiest thing to do. For to block

1004
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: for a quarterback. Like if you're blocking for Philip Rivers

1005
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: or Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, they're not gonna even

1006
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, they don't move. So you just take your

1007
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: kick set and you just try to, you know, hold

1008
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 1: the guy and neutralize him for two and a half

1009
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: three seconds, right if you're if you're blocking for Aaron Rodgers,

1010
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, Russell Wilson, you know, Jimmy Garoppolo, those dudes

1011
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: like just make it up out of nowhere, and it's like,

1012
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: oh and they you know, they fly out of the pocket,

1013
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: and it's it's harder to be an officeive lineman. It

1014
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: really is. I'm not I guess, you know, taking like

1015
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: saying it's not every sack is the quarterback's fault, because

1016
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: that's not the way it is. You have to breakdown

1017
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: the film and really kind of study it. But yeah,

1018
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: I think there is some merit to that. What kind

1019
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,240
Speaker 1: of season would Mitch Robisky have to have to begin

1020
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: to flip the narrative? Well, I I don't really know

1021
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: what the narrative is on Mitch Robisky. I think the

1022
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: narrative right now is he's a talented quarterback, but he's

1023
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: still a pretty flawed quarterback. Like he's not a good player,

1024
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: but he's not a bad player. He's just a player

1025
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: that happens to be on a really really good team.

1026
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: And I think sometimes when you plan a really really

1027
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: good team, like a young Russell Wilson and the young

1028
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: Kaepernick are good examples, and their teams are probably better

1029
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 1: versions of the Bears because they had more offensive weapons.

1030
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: I mean, Seattle had Marshawn Lynch was such a badass

1031
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: and Doug Baldwin was a really good player. The Niners

1032
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: had Frank Gore, Crabtree, Vernon Davis, like they had probably

1033
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,959
Speaker 1: more weapons. Chicago though Trek Cohen's good. Now Robins is good.

1034
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: The Bears really have a tight end. They're definitely more defense.

1035
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: I mean those teams were too, but you know what

1036
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like those teams had a couple of game

1037
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: breakers where, you know, I think it's fair to start

1038
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: judging Mits this year. And I've heard Matt Naggy talk

1039
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: about on some O t A press conferences where he's like,

1040
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: you know, Mits just feels like he's more comfortable in

1041
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: this offense as he should be. He's a year in,

1042
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: so I think it's just we'll see when the year ends,

1043
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: if he could have thirty touchdowns and fifteen picks and

1044
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 1: they're an eleven twelve win team, Like, he's gotta throw

1045
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: some picks, but he's also gonna make some place, you know.

1046
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a big time I like Mr Bisky.

1047
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: Now do I love me your whisky? No? But I

1048
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: like him. I'm a fan. And when he was coming

1049
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Speaker 1: out of college, when you kind of dove into his

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Speaker 1: North Carolina tape and I did a YouTube video. I

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00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: was dabbling YouTube a couple of years ago and just

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00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: making a couple of videos. He was pretty accurate quarterback

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00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: in North Carolina, and one of the knocks in the

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00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 1: pros is he wasn't very accurate, And if you think

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00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: about the playoff game, he was pretty terrible. And I

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00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: don't care what the box corre says. Every time he

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00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: dropped back, I felt like he was gonna throw a

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00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: pick against the Eagles. But guess what, when you're twenty

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Speaker 1: three years old, twenty four years old, you've been starting

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Speaker 1: for literally two years since high school, one in college,

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Speaker 1: then one in the pros. Like, a playoff game in

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00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: the NFL against defending champs is tough. So I'm not

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Speaker 1: just gonna sell Mitch Robiski down the river because he

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00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: struggled in the playoff game against the Eagles, Like people

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Speaker 1: struggled in the playoff games against the Eagles. Like, it's

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Speaker 1: not that crazy. How many pieces away are the Colts

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00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 1: from being a top three Super Bowl favorite? What type

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00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 1: of player would be a perfect fit to put in

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00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: their system? Uh? Because Eric Ebron's kind of emergence. I

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Speaker 1: like the two young running backs. He's still got t

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Speaker 1: y you know, when you think about the defense, I

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Speaker 1: would just say a dynamic pass rusher. If they can,

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna be able to just get this guy.

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Speaker 1: But like if you just said Khalil Mack was on

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00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 1: their team, I'd be like, ship there up, they could

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00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: be the one seed, right, or had Aaron Donald or

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00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 1: hell even like a Deforced Buckner, just a dominant defensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: a Keem Hicks, h a Fletcher Cox, just someone that

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Speaker 1: you went, oh my god, that is clearly their best

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Speaker 1: player on defense. Now, Darius Leonard's a really good player.

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Speaker 1: They drafted the kid from Temple who Chris Ballard can't

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00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 1: stop talking about. But you know plant being a rookie

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Speaker 1: corner's heart. Think about who you have to cover in

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00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: that division. Well, the Texans have Hopkins. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: He just happens to be a top five wide receiver.

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00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 1: No big deal. The I guess the Titans don't. Yeah,

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00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: it's not a great work. See. I was thinking as

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Speaker 1: like Julio Antonio was like Titans, you know Corey Davis, uh,

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars Marque's lead DD Westbrook though, talking with people

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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, I think d d has had a really

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00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 1: good offseason. DD can fly. So yeah, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: he's gonna have to play well quite like the show.

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Speaker 1: As a business tude to myself, is there any better

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00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: system for injured reserve? Is there any way for the

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00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: league to look freeing injured reserve money so teams can

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00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: have more cap space in season? I know the NHL

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00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: has l t i R long Term Injured Reserve, so

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Speaker 1: where a player is dealing with an injury, they still

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00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: get paid, but the money has moved off the books.

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Speaker 1: With this work in the NFL, well, the reality is

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Speaker 1: once the season starts, I guess for trades, but once

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00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: the season starts, like there aren't free agents available. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you're up against the cap or close to the cap,

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Speaker 1: you couldn't trade. Like if you only have three million

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00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: dollars in cap space, and let's say you have a

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Speaker 1: fifteen million dollar player on injured reserve, you would be

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Speaker 1: able to trade for a ten million dollar player. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't hate that idea. Actually, just thinking it out loud,

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Speaker 1: I don't hate that idea at all. I actually like

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Speaker 1: that idea a lot now thinking about it, I think

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Speaker 1: that wouldn't be a bad idea. So I think the

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Speaker 1: PUP changed an injury reserve change, right, we're definitely injured

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00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:18,959
Speaker 1: reserve change where you can put a guy on injury

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Speaker 1: reserve and he can come back. And when I was

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, once you went on i R, you

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00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: were out. But the injury reserve guy can come back,

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00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: but their money still counts. But I like the idea

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Speaker 1: if you go on injury reserve, I can move your money.

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Speaker 1: Now the question would be, let's say I put let's

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Speaker 1: say Khalil Mack breaks his arm. He's gonna be on

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Speaker 1: injured reserve for two months and it's week two. I

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Speaker 1: don't want this to happen, but I'm just using him

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Speaker 1: as an example. Is he makes twenty million dollars, so

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Speaker 1: you put them on injury reserve for those two months

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Speaker 1: and you get twenty million dollars freed up. Could you

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Speaker 1: make a big time trade what happens when Khalil mac

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Speaker 1: comes back? And like November, like what you over the cap?

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Speaker 1: Because in the end of Felt, there's a hard cap.

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00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: This isn't the NBA. You can't go over it. So

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Speaker 1: I think it would become kind of complicated. I don't

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Speaker 1: know exactly what you would do. I was a diehard St.

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00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: Louis Rams fan, and it broke my heart that they

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00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: left any chance St. Louis ever gets a team again.

1134
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: Croci really screwed over the city. But it was all

1135
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: about money. The only reason that Rams were losing support

1136
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: here was because the product had been so dreadful for years. Thoughts,

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Speaker 1: Here's what I will say. The Rams were in St.

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00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: Louis because they were stolen away from l A. Like

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Speaker 1: I'll say this for the Raiders, like the Oakland Oakland

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00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: is their home, so l A stole them. Now Vegas

1141
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: is stealing them, but Oakland's their home, so the people

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00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: of Oakland. If you're an Oakland Raider fan you have,

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00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: I can't blame you for being piste off. If you're

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Speaker 1: from San Diego and the San Diego Chargers, like that's

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00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: your team. Like St. Louis, you guys just borrowed them

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Speaker 1: for twenty years. I I get what. I don't know

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00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: how old you are, but you know if you were

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00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: my age when they moved to ninety four, you would

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00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: have been like ten years old. You have been coming

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00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: into your sports fandom. I get it. But I think

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00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: as you get older and you take a step back,

1152
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: you say Cronkey was a money grab, which is true.

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00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: Because he's a Missouri guy. But like that, that was

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00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: l A team like the l A teams. The Raiders

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00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: were not l A team. The St. Louis Rams were

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00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams. They were Los Angeles team. So

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily feel bad for you. The St. Louis

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00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: an NFL market, I don't know. I think it's better

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00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: for the NFL that the Rams are in l A.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just as an unemotional by standard just like this.

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00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: I didn't want the Raiders to leave because it impacted

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00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,479
Speaker 1: a lot of friends and family. But I will say

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00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: this taking a step back, and they screwed over a

1164
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: lot of people that I know here that were just

1165
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: die hard, loyal supporters. They're probably better off being in Vegas.

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00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: Uh better economically now. They're not better off as long

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00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: as Mark Davis and his owny's run the team, but

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00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: they're better off financially being in Vegas. I don't even

1169
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: think that's arguable, just like the Rams are better off

1170
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: now being being in Los Angeles. But I hear you.

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00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: I mean i'd be piste off too if I was you.

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00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: I don't think you're ever getting a team, but you did.

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00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,919
Speaker 1: You did steal them originally from Los Angeles. Appreciate everyone

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Speaker 1: asking the questions. Enjoy the weekend talk. Soon so