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Speaker 1: I love talking NFL with my friend Trey Wingo. Straight

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Speaker 1: Facts Homie is his newest podcast. It's been out for

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Speaker 1: a few months staff check it out wherever you get

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Speaker 1: your podcast. He is coming to us from Maui today.

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Speaker 1: I'm very jealous. I'm certain he's playing golf thirty six

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Speaker 1: holes today, Trey.

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Speaker 2: Probably taking today off. We're going to the other side

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Speaker 2: of the island to play the Golden the enbol Course

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Speaker 2: tomorrow at Wileya. So yeah, we're just taking a down

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Speaker 2: dated right.

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Speaker 1: Just what's the nicest go ahead, Mikey, go ahead? He's

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Speaker 1: got questions.

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Speaker 3: I don't know any of those words, but I'm just

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Speaker 3: jealous of them. I don't know what any of those

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Speaker 3: words mean, but I'm upset.

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Speaker 1: What's just go on?

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Speaker 2: Melli khaliki maka four years well, which just means Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 2: That's all right, you're the greatest.

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Speaker 1: I mean, who's fucking better than you? Trey wing Go nobody?

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Speaker 2: I say, short list, short list.

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Speaker 1: If you could play one golf course in Hawaii, what

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Speaker 1: would that golf course be?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Probably Manelli Bay over in One Eye, which is

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Speaker 2: right that way right over there. It's the Four Seasons

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Speaker 2: course at the hotel there at Larry Ellison, the head

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Speaker 2: CEO Oracle. He bought the island just so he has,

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Speaker 2: you know, at the Billionaire Boys Club his trump curse,

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Speaker 2: I got a Hawaiian island? What do you got? You know?

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Speaker 2: And then that course was designed by Jack Nicholson like

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Speaker 2: ninety one or ninety two. It's phenomenal. It's absolutely phenomenal,

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Speaker 2: most fun you can ever have on a golf course.

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Speaker 1: Owning an island not.

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Speaker 2: A terrible idea.

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Speaker 1: We should get an island, me and yes, let's go

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Speaker 1: Losers Island. Yeah, I don't know. Some people would say

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Speaker 1: I'm the big winner in life, you know, there you go.

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Speaker 2: I guess that would be you and me?

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Speaker 1: Yes, what'd you make? Do you think we've seen the

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Speaker 1: last of Aaron Rodgers? That game ended? It was It

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Speaker 1: ended an ugly fashion for the Pittsburgh Steelers. That game

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Speaker 1: was seven fucking six going into the fourth quarter and

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Speaker 1: the Texans steamrolled them the rest of the way. Do

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Speaker 1: you think we've seen the last of Aron?

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Speaker 2: Here? You know, I don't know the answer to that question,

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Speaker 2: but I do feel like, more so than ever before,

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Speaker 2: I think he might train and come back for one

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Speaker 2: more year. But I think that only predicates on whether

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin comes back, and I think that's the much

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Speaker 2: bigger issue. I'm a huge Mike Tomlin supporter, but there

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Speaker 2: are some things that you just you have to you

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Speaker 2: have to just be look at and look at it honestly. Right.

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Speaker 2: That was the seventh straight playoff loss for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 2: They have not won a playoff game since before Patrick

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Speaker 2: Mahomes was drafted, and Patrick Mahomes just played his ninth

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Speaker 2: season in the NFL. It was also their seventh straight

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Speaker 2: playoff loss where they gave up at least twenty eight points.

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Speaker 2: That's the most in the playoff history. It's also seventh

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Speaker 2: straight playoff loss where they were behind at one point

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Speaker 2: by at least twenty one points. That's the most consecutive

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Speaker 2: games lost in playoff history in that fashion. They've tied

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Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins. No, they were tied with the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: They've now surpassed the Miami Dolphins for the longest playoff

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Speaker 2: active playoff losing streak. Mike Tomlin in that game tied

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Speaker 2: Marvin Lewis for the head coach with the longest active

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Speaker 2: playoff losing streak seven seasons. They don't make change lightly

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Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh. I like to say this all the time.

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Speaker 2: Since nineteen seventy we've had six Popes and three Steelers

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Speaker 2: don't make changes. They don't really make changes. But if

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Speaker 2: you're this is a hard one to try and run back. TJ.

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Speaker 2: Watt has played his entire career and has never won

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Speaker 2: a playoff game. I mean, that's a lot.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy, Yeah, Trey.

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Speaker 3: We like to say that once Russell Wilson left Seattle,

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Speaker 3: he sort of has been playing his way out of

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Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame. And I want to try out

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Speaker 3: a take on you that since leaving Green Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 3: playing himself.

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Speaker 1: Now of not first ballot Hall of.

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Speaker 3: Fame, out of the goat conversation.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I think that's fair, And I mean, if

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Speaker 2: I'm being honest, I mean, like he was really really

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Speaker 2: good for a long long time. Yes, but we're talking goats.

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Speaker 2: I mean, to me, that's obviously Brady mahomes lay Marino

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Speaker 2: Dan Marino? Dan Marino's nineteen eighty four or eighty five

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Speaker 2: seasons still the greatest season and a quarterback will ever have,

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Speaker 2: even though he forty eight as opposed to fifty five,

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Speaker 2: because he played against defenses where they could just beat

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Speaker 2: the heads off wide receivers. It's a totally different game

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Speaker 1: He had no running game, so they always yeah.

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Speaker 2: They had no running game, you know, I don't. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if I have ever put Aaron Rodgers in

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Speaker 2: the goat conversation, especially when we're talking about someone like

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Speaker 2: Brady who who was just dominated in every statistical category.

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Speaker 2: And then you have a player much younger than Aaron

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Speaker 2: and Patrick Mahomes who has accomplished far more already in

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Speaker 2: his career. So Aaron Rodgers is going to be It's

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Speaker 2: going to be a first ballot, no brainer, no brainer,

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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. But I don't I don't know if

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Speaker 2: even before this run, you would put him up on

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Speaker 2: the Mount Rushmore of NFL quarterbacks because of the shortcomings

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Speaker 2: that have happened in the postseason. And I know I've

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Speaker 2: said this to you Stu Gott's I've said it before.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a ring counter. That's why I want to

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Speaker 2: put Marino in there, because I appreciate what he did

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Speaker 2: and the organization he played for, But that's a that's

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Speaker 2: a that's a thing that Aaron Rodgers has to deal with.

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Speaker 2: His lack of playoff success is quite frankly alarming for

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Speaker 2: a quarterback of his talent.

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Speaker 1: Yep Trey.

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Speaker 4: The Patriots start two rookies on their offensive line, Will

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Speaker 4: They get Drake May sacked five times. When you're watching

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Speaker 4: last night's game, how worried should Patriot fans be with

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Speaker 4: that Texans defense coming into town?

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Speaker 2: Guys, that defense is I mean, it's like watching a cobra.

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Speaker 2: They just eventually choke you out, you know. And I

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Speaker 2: would be very concerned because the Chargers defense was pretty

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Speaker 2: good and they gave Drake me I think Drake May

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Speaker 2: in the first half of that game was six of

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Speaker 2: fifteen with an interception. He looked a little shaky. Now

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Speaker 2: he got much better in the second half. But I

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Speaker 2: think he got a little much better in the second

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Speaker 2: half because the Chargers' offensive line fell apart in the

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Speaker 2: second half. Right. You know, It's interesting because as good

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Speaker 2: Stroud was terrible? Like you know, I will. He had

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Speaker 2: five fumbles in that game, lost two of them through

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Speaker 2: a really costly interception. Looked antsy. So if I'm the Patriots, yes,

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Speaker 2: I'm concerned about seeing that Houston defense, but I'm also

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Speaker 2: c J. Stroud at check. Right.

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Speaker 1: I believe Taylor put this on the poll today. It's

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Speaker 1: a poll question. Were you thinking about Davis Mills in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, Trey? Were you You can't?

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I mean you just can't. I Mean

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Speaker 2: the sad thing is it probably did cross somebody's I

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Speaker 2: mean the center quarterback exchange, the center quarterback exchange. Are

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Speaker 2: we haven't? I mean, like, how is that that big

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Speaker 2: know that he came over late and they claimed him

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Speaker 2: off waivers, but still, my god, that was just a nightmare.

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Speaker 2: It was more CJ. Stroud's feet than anything. Like he

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Speaker 2: just looked like he never felt settled, and he refused

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Speaker 2: kept drives going. So that was the bigger concern for me.

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Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know why he played like he

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Speaker 2: was Peyton Manning.

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Speaker 1: Mobility, right, the Texan's glad to clarify that.

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Speaker 2: In terms of mobility, Yeah, in terms of mobility, the.

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Speaker 4: Texans could have went out there last night and punted

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Speaker 4: on first down every time and that defense was still

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Speaker 4: going to find a way to win that game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, that's the point you're talking about. Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: in his final playoff game. The Steelers offense at fewer

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Speaker 2: You were at home, didn't They didn't get their first

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Speaker 2: third down conversion until midway through the third quarter, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was unbelievable for all the people saying, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: you know we struggled down the stretch because of DK Metcalf. Well,

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Speaker 2: he was available, he was there. Yeah, and see him

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Speaker 2: doing much last night.

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Speaker 1: Is there a team of the eight remaining teams? Is

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Speaker 1: there a team that would surprise you if they were

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Speaker 1: to go on and win the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 2: I guess it might be the Texans because of the

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Speaker 2: way CJ played, But no, really, I mean the only

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Speaker 2: team I was confident that wasn't going to win the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl starting into the playoffs was the Carolina Panthers,

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Speaker 2: and they put up a hell of a fight against

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Speaker 2: the Rams. But that's why I think, Stu, I think

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Speaker 2: that's what makes this postseason maybe more exciting than any

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Speaker 2: I can remember. There is no dominant team. There is

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Speaker 2: no situation where you can say, well, that team's going

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Speaker 2: to take care of business in that conference. You can

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Speaker 2: make argument that every one of them can and every

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Speaker 2: a heater right now, Stude. The ratings for this past

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Speaker 2: year and the regular season were up ten percent, the

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Speaker 2: ratings overall a thirty five year high, a thirty five

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Speaker 2: year high in regular season ratings, and the first four

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Speaker 2: games of wild Card weekend all were one possession games

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Speaker 2: going into the final two minutes of the game, and

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Speaker 2: they were nuts. The two clunkers were the big primetime

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Speaker 2: games the Patriots, the Patriots Chargers, than the moment we

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Speaker 2: saw last night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to your point, those those first four games, it

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Speaker 1: felt like game of the year followed by another game

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Speaker 1: of the year. They were decided by a total of

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Speaker 1: fourteen points. It's insane.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy, and that Bears game just this

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Speaker 2: is the stat of the year for me. The Chicago Bears,

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Speaker 2: including regular and postseason this year, are three and three

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Speaker 2: in games in which they were down by ten or

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Speaker 2: more points with five minutes to play in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: The rest of the NFL in that same situation three

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Speaker 2: and one hundred and fifty nine.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, well, we were saying, we were talking about

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Speaker 1: the schedule this week because I think their game starts

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Speaker 1: at like six thirty on Sunday, but Taylor was making

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Speaker 1: the point that they really don't start playing until about

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Speaker 1: nine o'clock. The Bear it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: That was the worst first half I can imagine, and

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Speaker 2: somehow they won that game. It was It was insane.

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Speaker 1: It was nuts. Yes, some of the tools that you

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Speaker 1: talk about with Dan Marino, the throwing of the football,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Kayleb Williams has those tools that I have said,

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Speaker 1: and perhaps I'm going overboard here traight, that he has

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Speaker 1: a chance just based on those tools, okay, and the

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Speaker 1: fact that the fourth quarter doesn't seem to phase him,

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Speaker 1: nothing really seems to phase him, that he has a

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Speaker 2: think this is really cool.

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Speaker 1: Please.

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Speaker 2: When when the the PGA Tour started and Live started,

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Speaker 2: Live had the hammer and they swung and they took

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Speaker 2: some big body blows. Well, then it turns out the product,

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Speaker 2: while they have good golfers, no one's watching it, no

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Speaker 2: season where everything went right for them. And so this

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Speaker 2: statement was basically saying, if you want to come back,

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Speaker 2: you have to be great, and you have to come

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Speaker 2: back on our terms. If you're the Kevin Knas and

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Speaker 2: the Taylor Gooches and the Joaquing demons of the world,

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Speaker 2: have fun, see you later, you're never coming back, and

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Speaker 2: you got a window to do it. And oh, by

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Speaker 2: the way, they only want the stars to come back.

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Speaker 2: You have to have won either one of the four

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Speaker 2: Majors or the Players Championship between twenty twenty two and

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. And I find it also really interesting

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Speaker 2: that those are the years because you know who won

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Speaker 2: a major in twenty twenty one, Phil Nicholson.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: And they do not care about Phil Nicholson at all

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Speaker 2: because they know Phil was one of those guys who

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Speaker 2: was recruiting players to join Live. Right. They basically just said, Phil,

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Speaker 2: I hope you joy the rest of your golfing days

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Speaker 2: because you ain't playing here right now.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that would have been the same if

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Speaker 1: it was a you know, a forty one year old

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Speaker 1: Phill or a thirty seven year old Phill. I don't know, right,

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know the answer to that, but I know

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Speaker 2: that that the fact that he was actively recruiting, like

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Speaker 2: I played. I played for the Century Pro Am out

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Speaker 2: here with him in twenty twenty two, and he hadn't

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Speaker 2: played in that proram forever, right. He only came to

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Speaker 2: try and recruit players to leave the PGA Tour and

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Speaker 2: played to Live. And I think the PGA Tour is

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Speaker 2: like like an elephant, We have a long memory.

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Speaker 1: We remember, yes, yes, an embold and confident PGA tour.

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Speaker 1: That was not the case when Live first came out.

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Speaker 2: If you remember, it's not that it is now it is.

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Speaker 1: Now yep, and they should be. They absolutely should be.

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Speaker 2: When you had the hammer, swing it and roll up,

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Speaker 2: swung the hammer yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Yes, uh, put that on the ball, Taylor. When you

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Speaker 1: have the hammer, swing it straight, facts, Hodie, check it

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Speaker 1: out wherever you get your podcast. We're gonna let him go.

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Speaker 1: He's got he's telling you eighteen. I'm guessing it's thirty six,

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Speaker 1: but he's got some traveling to do. Trei, thank you

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Speaker 1: for joining us as ow. We appreciate it. Buddy. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you as we get closer to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: You gotta guys, take care