1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. Were all about 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl Drama Girl, all about them 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: our comic Girl Cheering for the drama Queen's Girl Fashion. 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: But you'll tough, girl, you can sit with us Girl Drama, 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: Queens Drama, Queen's Drawn mc Queen's Drama John mc Queen's Drama, 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: Queen's Wow. Hey, everybody, what a weird episode. Everyone just exhales. 8 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: That was That wasn't even like a real episode. That 9 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: was just a bunch of flashbacks kind of super glued 10 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: together with some weird expository filler in there. It was 11 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: very strange. It feels like somebody looked at the board 12 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: for what's happened so far in the season and what 13 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: needs to happen, and went, oh shit, it's too many bridges, 14 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: And they were like, I know, we can make a 15 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: bunch of things. Makes sense if we just tell people 16 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: all these things happened, and also will freeze frame constantly 17 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: frame what do do do do? Do do that song? 18 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: Oh my god? All right. This was the season three 19 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: episode ten Brave New World. It originally aired January eleventh, 20 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: two thousand six, which makes sense because this would have 21 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: been like the episode that comes back after mid season, 22 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: So our mid season break would have happened last episode 23 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: with Nathan and Haley getting back together and with brook 24 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: and Lucas getting back together, big Cliffhangers, Peyton just crying 25 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: all by herself, and then we come back with this madness. 26 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: The day after Brooks says those three magic words to Lucas, 27 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: he gets in a car with Peyton to take a 28 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: road trip to visit Ellie and then uh, Peyton makes 29 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: Ellian offer that could bring them closer together. Meanwhile, Lucas 30 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: reconnects with an old friend, which was lovely but super random, 31 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: and then back in Tree Hill, Brooks clothing line close 32 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: over bros becomes an overnight hit and she asks literally 33 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: everybody to help out. Plus Nathan finds out the truth 34 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: about his mother and her role in the fire that 35 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: almost killed Dan. That was dramatic and something that was 36 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: so badly written that we just didn't know what to 37 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: do with ourselves. Honestly, James and Barbara did. I think 38 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: they did a great job with that, With what they 39 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: could do with that material, They leaned in. They committed 40 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: so hard and that is not easy when you get 41 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: a scene that could either be filler on Days of 42 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: Our Lives or c S I whose show? Whose show 43 00:02:54,840 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: is this that I just hackled you an episode? C 44 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: s I Perfect. I had to crush the pills. Then 45 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: I had to write the letter. The last thing that 46 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: was left to do was seal the bottle. I had 47 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: to light the fire. I mean, it's who was saying 48 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: I usually like this writer. You know, not everybody can 49 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: every time. I mean it's not it's not the end 50 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: of the world, but you know, well, and just just 51 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: because this writer's name is on the script doesn't mean 52 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: that's the person that actually wrote it. Like it's sometimes 53 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: it's like the last person to put a polish on it. 54 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: Um So in season three. A lot of times what 55 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: happens on shows, regardless of how sexual successful, sex sexful 56 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: show is, is that your original writers start peeling off 57 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: and they get pilots of their own, or they get 58 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: jobs on other shows, and you start bumping nevies up. 59 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: And so sometimes scripts like this, we're like, was this 60 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: a new kid? Was this someone getting their first go? 61 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: So we want to be gentle while also poking a 62 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: lot of at it because it was dreadful. Yeah, listen, 63 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: before we get too far into this, something happened to 64 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: me this week. Okay, okay, okay, talk about this, you guys. 65 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: We just need you to know the willpower of our 66 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: friend Joy. Because we got on as we always do, 67 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: to watch the episode, and we start, you know, cackling 68 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: about dumb things we've done this week, and Joy goes, oh, 69 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: I have a story to tell the two of you, 70 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: and we go okay, and she goes, I'll save it 71 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: for the episode. She made us wait. She made us 72 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: wait a whole an hour. What happened? I'm standing in 73 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: line for lunch to order lunch, and I have the 74 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: menu in my hand, and I hear, what are you 75 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: gonna get? Look up and there is like a six 76 00:04:55,000 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: ft five or more lumberjack looking slightly disheveled, crystal blue 77 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: eyed sweet man staring down at me like I'm like, uh, 78 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I'm gonna get there whatever 79 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: wrap and uh, you know how, Yeah, this place is 80 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: pretty good. Blah blah blah. He strikes up a conversation 81 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: and he's can I look at the menu? Yeah? Yeah, 82 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: it takes the menu and we start, how's your dad going, oh, 83 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: I say, my my day's going great. Actually, how about you? 84 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: Oh it's great, you know, like blah blah blah. He 85 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: starts launching into this whole story about how he's just 86 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: bought this new property. I was like, oh, great, where 87 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: are you from? So it turns out we've actually lived 88 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: in several of the same places, and I've moved around 89 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: a lot, so it's it's kind of cool that we've 90 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: lived in several same places. And we're talking and um 91 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: as as he keeps talking about this property that he 92 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: just bought and you know, a couple of companies that 93 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: he owns, and he's super charming and really sweet, and 94 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, yeah, I'm gonna ask this guy to join 95 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: me for lunch. And he gets up to the register, 96 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: he pays for his food, and he turns around and 97 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: before I can say it, he goes, hey, you want 98 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:07,239 Speaker 1: to eat? And I'm like, yeah, all right, okay, okay. 99 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: I'm like great, it's great. So total meet cute. So 100 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: I go sit down, I get my food, I get 101 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: I get my little placard, and I go. We go 102 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: sit down and and so we start talking and it's 103 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: easy conversation, like this guy is. He's interested and smart 104 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: and tals. We're talking about architects, we're talking about philosophers, 105 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: were talking about traveling, and it's just like this is 106 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: so nice. And he's an ex athlete and I have 107 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: to remind myself to breathe. We are bated breath right now. 108 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: It's so interesting, Like I'm just I'm at this table 109 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: and I'm there and I'm interested and um and we 110 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: just have this great chat and he's like mid forties 111 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: and I'm just going, God, is this real? Like wow, 112 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: how amazing? And as he's talking towards the end of 113 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: the meal and we were sitting there for like an hour, 114 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: towards the end of the meal, he said saying something 115 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: about it's business venture and the property. And he says 116 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,119 Speaker 1: the word we a couple of times, and I've already 117 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: talked about But the first sentence I say out of 118 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: my mouth is like, yeah, my daughter and I just 119 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: moved here blah blah blah or whatever. And so I'm thinking, Oh, 120 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: does he have a kid? Oh that's weird. He didn't. 121 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: He would have said that if I And then I'm like, oh, 122 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: he's talking about his pets a lot. Like sometimes I 123 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: talk about my pets, like we or maybe it's a 124 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: business partner, or like maybe his mother lives with him, 125 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: and there's a part of me that's like maybe he's 126 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: got a girlfriend and it's going south. Yeah, And like 127 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know how I feel about that, 128 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: but you know, I'm going to give him a little space. 129 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: So I didn't want to ask, because the thing is, 130 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: if I ask who's it puts me in the position 131 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: of a I give him my cards of him knowing 132 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: that I'm interested. So and I just don't I like 133 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: to they need to work a little harder than that 134 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: for me. So I just was like, I didn't say anything, 135 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: you know. But he gives me the Instagram handle for 136 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: the website of this property like farm. Oh, by the way, 137 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: he lives on a farm. He bought a farm. Oh 138 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: my god, I mean I'm dying. And um, so he 139 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: gives me He's like turn it into a retreat property 140 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: and Airbnb and all this stuff, and here's the Instagram handle, 141 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: go look at it. I'm like, okay, great. He gives 142 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: me his number, I give him my number. We leave. 143 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: He texts me afterwards, you know this is me. Nice 144 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: to meet you, and I'm like, yeah, great to know you. 145 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: So then I go look at the Instagram handle later on, 146 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm like scrolling and I see it's like all these 147 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: beautiful pictures of nature and great stuff, and I see 148 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: one photo of him with this girl and they look 149 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: kind of cozy, but it's from like a little bit ago. 150 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: So I'm like, oh, maybe it's you know, maybe that's 151 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: the next girlfriend or something. So I click on the 152 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: picture and I do the click at the clicks, you know, 153 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: to see who this man is marriage. This man is engaged, 154 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: not for long, not when she hears this, yeah and engaged. 155 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm just like, but like from like, they're still there. 156 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: It's all happening, Like there's new posts about the place 157 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: and it's like all the new you know, we bought 158 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: this place and we're so excited and blah blah blah. 159 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: Joy You know, every engaged chick is going through her 160 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: fiance better. If this motherfucker has Joyless number in his phone, 161 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 1: he is dead. So I called my friend Eric Palladina. Hillary, 162 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: you know Eric, of course, Jeff No, Eric Palladina. Guys, 163 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: Eric Palladina. The reason I called Eric. He's on a 164 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: marvelous Mrs Maisel for any of you, you guys who 165 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: are watched that show. Um, Eric is from Yonkers and 166 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: he's the most direct, just deeply deeply masculine, Like I 167 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: don't know how else to say it. He's just such 168 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: a guy's guy, as a whole guy's guy. Man. So 169 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: I was like, if anybody's gonna understand the male psyche, 170 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: this is the guy I'm going to call. So that's 171 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: why I texted him and I was like, here's what's up, 172 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: and you know, I told him what happened and and 173 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: he was like, joy, No, man is gonna stay and 174 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: in line and start talking to you and have a 175 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: strike up a conversation and then ask you to lunch 176 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: just to be friends, just to be friends. That's not 177 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: a thing. And especially if he's engaged with the first 178 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: words out of his mouth should have been my fiance 179 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: and I blah blah blah, because then you know. And 180 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's it, and that's it because then 181 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't know then and then they could have been 182 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: your new city friends. That was not this man's intention. 183 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: I cannot wait to see who you stand by way 184 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: with something man, And he was like, I'm sorry, if 185 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: you're battling yourself, I get it, Like whatever, you're having 186 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: to make me a casualty of your battle. Honestly, it hurt. 187 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: I was like I spent the whole day kind of 188 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: being like excited and like, oh, I'm at this guy 189 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: and he liked me and he thought it was cute 190 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: and like, as you are cute. So you are very 191 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: cute and then like you're engaged. What You're so cute 192 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: that someone is ready to fire bomb their life to 193 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: have lunch with you about that? But okay, so here's 194 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: the next part. So Eric tells me he's like, no, no, 195 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: just them, and I'm like, okay, fine, I'm never gonna 196 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: hear from this guy again. He was having a weird 197 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: moment and whatever. He texts me stop it. Two days later, 198 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: he did not sends me a text a voice note, Hey, 199 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: I was just thinking about you and like, you know, 200 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: you're working out tile and uh and I'm just anyway, 201 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great day. So I right back, 202 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: I am having a great day. Hey are you engaged? 203 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: And he writes back yes with a bunch of exclamation points, 204 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: and then he says, are we too attracted to each 205 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: other to be friends. What is this is to say, like, 206 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: you guys and our listening audience, like, you guys know 207 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: I don't air dirty laundry, like I never talked about this, 208 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: but this is Eastern our mail. Yeah, he's like, wow, 209 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: I can't, like it's unreal. You guys aren't chat right now, 210 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: screaming and no. And it really blew me away because 211 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: I just totally miss judged him, right. I told you 212 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: my picker is bad, like I thought this guy was sweet. No, 213 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: you didn't try to pick he came and picked on that. 214 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: This is not your fault. Yeah, so I said, you 215 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: know what, I didn't want to get into it. I 216 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: just said, yes, yes, we are too attracted to each other. 217 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: And I said, but good luck and stop asking pretty 218 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: girls to lunch. You know, I put a little smiley 219 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: face like I'm going to be nice about this, but 220 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: you're you know that was a dick move. And he 221 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: writes back the response is no, no, no, whatever. If 222 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: I had a nickel for every time I was hit on, 223 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have to work. And then he says something 224 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: about what I know something about I figured it's the 225 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: same for you, so you'd appreciate the sentiment. We just 226 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: you know, it just gets overlooked and then we become 227 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: friends anyway. Um, but I wasn't expecting a lunch like 228 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: what we had, Like, I wasn't expecting us to connect 229 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 1: that much, and so nib but like, okay, here, here's 230 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: here's what my real problem here is that he's he's convincing. 231 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: First of all, the response of like whatever, oh blah 232 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: blah blah. I get hit all the time. How about 233 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: take The answer is you're right. I totally was trying 234 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: to get away with something. I don't know what's going 235 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: on with me. I'm sorry. That was unfair to you 236 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: and totally unfair to my fiance. And I'm sorry, I 237 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: don't know what's going on with me. I'm sorry. That's 238 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: the answer. That's the only that's the only answer. Yeah, 239 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: I need you to send me this Instagram profile right now. Yeah, 240 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: you are going to send us this farm Instagram joylight 241 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: me into thinking. Now I'm the one like, sorry, if 242 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: you're not enlightened enough to just be friends with a 243 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: handsome guy, off, are you kidding? That's the gust? Stupid? 244 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: Does he not have friends? You're the one that's new 245 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: in town right well, and by the way, and by 246 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: the way, it's so deeply insulting and like, I'm gonna 247 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: put my petty head on for a minute. I'm like, 248 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: have you seen have you seen the guy friends in 249 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: our friend group? Like, sir, we have plenty of deeply 250 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: attractive male friends. Are some of our closest people Like that? 251 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: Ain't it that? That? Ain't it's where men of honor. 252 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: There's no honor in trying to get way with something 253 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: like that and then convincing yourself that you're not trying 254 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: to get away with something. Yeah, if you're just trying 255 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: to get away with something. The first words out of 256 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: his mouth would have been if he found himself talking 257 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: to a pretty girl and got caught up in it, 258 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: you correct your course, my f and blah blah blah. 259 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: You should meet my girlfriend. I think you guys would 260 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: like each other so much. You're new here, sit for 261 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: an hour at line and tough blirting and get me 262 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: thinking for two days and then text me without acknowledging, Hey, 263 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: I was talking to my girlfriend about your tile situation 264 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: and she had somebody like whatever, I just don't don't 265 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: try to get away with it, and then act like 266 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: you weren't. And girls, if a man does this to you, 267 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: it's bullshit. It's gas lighting. It's not okay. It is 268 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: why older women, this is Daniel don't trust men, So 269 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: Dan Scott of him. No. But this is why we 270 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: get more and more blunt as we get older, because 271 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: the next dude that comes up to in line, you're 272 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: just gonna say, are you engaged? Like you're just gonna 273 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: say it, and they'renna be like this chick's bananas, but 274 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: and you're like, I just want a time. They wasting 275 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: my time or tell me, just tell me that you're engaged. 276 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: I want to have had lunch with you. Anyway, of 277 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: course you're in a different lunch. I can't wait to 278 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: see a picture of this dude. He's doomed. He's doomed. 279 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: That's what happened. I friends, watch out. Okay, we can 280 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: segue out of that. I just had to tell you. 281 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: But we guys, everybody out there, listen, we actually have 282 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: something really much more exciting than my weird love life story. 283 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: I don't know on this episode. Um, we have an 284 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: awesome guest, Hillary. I think you should be the god 285 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: you guys, I'm gonna cry at some point during the 286 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: course of this UM. I feel really, really lucky that 287 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: for the majority of season three, the love story that 288 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: I got to have is between Peyton and her birth mother, Ellie, 289 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: and the actress that played Ellie is the one and 290 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: only Cheryl Lee. She was with us today. I'm totally 291 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: freaking obsessed with her and I don't get to see 292 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: her talk to her nearly enough. So Bran are in here? 293 00:16:54,880 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: Give her to Cheryl? How are you not age Ryl? 294 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: You like look exactly? Gosh, you Lookie. I'm so happy 295 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: to tiss you. Miss you. You guys. So the last 296 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: time we saw each other was the first time we've 297 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: seen each other since we weren't on the show together anymore. 298 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: It had been like twelve years. It in a very 299 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: long time, and it was at the convention, right before 300 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: the pandemic hit. And I just remember you walking into 301 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: the green room and I just started like sobbing control 302 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:40,719 Speaker 1: I turned into Peyton in real life. I'm so happy 303 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: to see you, just it's good for my heart. Where 304 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: are you right now? I am in to Panga Canyon 305 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles? Amazing, Cheryl, do you know Daphne? Are 306 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: you and Daphne'suniga friends. I know she's out there in 307 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: to Panga. I don't think I've ever met her. You 308 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: guys would have had such good energy together here on 309 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: the show too. She was on she was Brooks mom. Um, 310 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: it's so cool to see you two side by side 311 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: here after having just watched that episode too. I'm we 312 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: were We've always been gushing every time you're on screen. 313 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: We gush about what an incredible actress you are and 314 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: how much we all looked up to you before you 315 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: came on the show, and how excited we were when 316 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: we heard that we got you. It was like catching 317 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: up big fish. We were so excited. Oh my gosh, 318 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,239 Speaker 1: thank you so much. I'm so grateful to be a 319 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: part of it. Well, you were. You were an original 320 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: drama queen. You know, we like tongue in Cheek named 321 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: ourselves drama queens for this podcast because we were, like, 322 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: you know, we were kissing and crying for the better 323 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: part of a decade and like it paid all our mortgages. Um, 324 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: but you as Laura Palmer on Twin Peaks, I mean 325 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: you were an original drama queen, this iconic teenage character 326 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: that the country was obsessed with you know who killed 327 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: Laura Palmer was like that was the catchphrase. And so 328 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: if you could tell our audience kind of about your 329 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: trajectory getting involved in that, because I was like your 330 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: first big job, right. Yes, I was living in Seattle 331 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: studying theater. I hadn't really even thought about television or 332 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: film and I but I had an agent in Seattle 333 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: and you know, just for commercial stuff or whatever. And 334 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: I got a call from her that this director m. 335 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: David Lynch for this mysterious television pilot and was interested 336 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: in casting local for um. And it was the role 337 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:47,479 Speaker 1: of a dead girl, and that's all anyone knew. And 338 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: so I went in. I had seen Blue Velvets, I 339 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: went in, which was shot in Wilmington's Yeah, Oh my gosh, 340 00:19:55,480 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: that's right, I forgot. Yeah, I so much. Is a 341 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: lot still shooting in Wilmington now there's a ton But 342 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: where our river Court was is where they found the 343 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: ear in the field in Blue Velvet. You know how 344 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: like the movie begins and there's like an ear in 345 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: the field. It's over there where the bay. That's the 346 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: crossover we needed is the Blue Velvet tree hill over 347 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: a lot in the nineties for Yeah. So then, UM, 348 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: I just I didn't know what to expect to meeting him. 349 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: And I went in and I met him, met David, 350 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: and he was so kind and so warm, and I 351 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: was so nervous that I my hands were shaking so 352 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: bad I had to sit on. Do you talk with 353 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: your hands like we do? We all, like the three 354 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: of us, can't stop talking with our hands. Yeah, I 355 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: was shaking like a leap that he was kind and warm, 356 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: and Um asked me how I feel about being dipped 357 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: in gray dye and plastic and freezing cold water, and 358 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: I said, just absolutely fine. And then that's how it started. 359 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: I was tired for I think it was four days 360 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: of work as a corpse, you know, the finding the 361 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: body and then the flash vaccines and then and then 362 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: I stayed in Seattle and kept doing theater. And then 363 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: much later Um he called and asked if I would 364 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: be interested in coming back on the show. And I said, well, sure, 365 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: but has a sister I'm dead. He's like, don't worry 366 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: about that, I'll figure it out. Wow. That was my 367 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: first grown up show. I remember watching. I remember like 368 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: my dad was watching it, and I don't know how 369 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: it was probably like, actually have no idea how old 370 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: I was, but I remember it being like, I don't 371 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: I think this show is too grown up for me, 372 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: but I can't stop watching it is so interesting. It 373 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: had a real real impact on probably my whole Macaw 374 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 1: outlook on many things. It was definitely the show that 375 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: like goth girls were into, and being a goth girl 376 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: in high school was like, man, if you're not watching 377 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: Twin Peaks, if you're not like freaking out over Twin Peaks, 378 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: what are you even doing with your life? What are 379 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: you listening to? Boy bands? You? What are you listening 380 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: on my block? Get out of here? And so you 381 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: ended up doing how many seasons of the show did 382 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: you guys do of Twin Peaks? Um? Two? So there 383 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: were only two seasons. I think they just did not 384 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: know what to do with us. Well, then that ended, 385 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: and then years later the movie came, and then that ended, 386 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: and then twenties something years later the season three came. 387 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: We'll talk about the movie though, because Moira, who was 388 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: Karen on our show, was in the movie with you, right, yes, yes, 389 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: And I actually had worked with Moira before that, even 390 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: really really every week together when we were I mean, 391 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: I was right out of Twin Peaks. It was like 392 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: the one of my first jobs off of the second 393 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: season of Twin Peaks, I worked with Moira, So when 394 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,719 Speaker 1: I heard Moira was coming onto the film, I was 395 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: so excited because we already had this history and I 396 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: loved her. I just a big fan of her. So 397 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: she's a good time. And then you also worked with 398 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: Craig who on her cast. Didn't you work Did you 399 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: work with Paul too, Hansen too? I don't think so. 400 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's, um, sometimes I forget what 401 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: I've worked on. Yeah, we get that. When I was 402 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: rewatching the show, Um, this show last night and I 403 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: was seeing you all and it's like my heart just 404 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: first open because um, you're so young, and I know 405 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: what it feels like to be to have to go 406 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: through you know, you're on a show and this is happening, 407 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: and you're at this really important time in your own 408 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: life figuring things out, and then you're on the show 409 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: and that becomes a success and like, there's no handbook 410 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: that comes with this. We're just kind of going with it. 411 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: And it's just I wish we had had the wherewithal 412 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: to ask you for advice, Yes, you were that age 413 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: When I was your age, that was one thing I 414 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: would find um older actors and I would follow them 415 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: around like a puppy because I was like, I don't 416 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: know anything that I need to learn as much as 417 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: I can. How do you how do you have a 418 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: life while you do this? You know what happens when 419 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: you work with directors that terrify you. You know, all 420 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: of the questions. I was probably really annoying because I 421 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: just would um and I still in that way where 422 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: I was seeking out elders to for guidance. How do 423 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: you walk this path? That's agree quality? Because I think 424 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: we all felt like we have to act like we 425 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: have it all together, because you know, if we don't 426 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: act like we have it all together, then no one 427 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: will trust us. And then if nobody trusts us, we 428 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: won't be able to get to do our job right, 429 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: and then we won't be able to stand up for ourselves. 430 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: And we have to be taken seriously. And in order 431 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: to be taken seriously, we just have to act like 432 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: we know everything, which is so dumb. And the grown 433 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 1: ups that were around us regularly, we're scary. A lot 434 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: of them, you know, not not our coworker, lovely friends, 435 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: but like we had some we had some people around 436 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: were very quickly we were like, oh no, we don't, 437 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: we don't want to be we can't. We gotta We're 438 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: gonna hide out. We're gonna hide And so interestingly, I 439 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: think it made us less I don't know if the 440 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: word is aware, or perhaps it made us feel like 441 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: we had less um wherewith all our permission too. Then 442 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: when someone like you was around two to go and 443 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: you know, trust you or seek your advice like and 444 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: I think that was probably pretty subconscious. But now even 445 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: just be scared as you don't want to do something 446 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 1: dumb or be like how was your what was it like? 447 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: We're going to twin like just a bunch of dirty 448 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: little puppies. And now I'm like, damn it, we should 449 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: have just followed you around him. Been annoying. I am 450 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: in awe of you all now because the way that 451 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: you um are so multifaceted, creatively and speaking your truth 452 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: and connecting and and following what you believe to be true. 453 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: I did not have the guts to do that at all, 454 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: and so I bowed you with great respect and gratitude. 455 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, thank god, these this generation is um has 456 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: the courage to stand up in a way that um, 457 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: I know I didn't in mind, Well, I didn't realize 458 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: similar our situations were, Cheryl, because we were filming in 459 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: Wilmington's where we were all like taken away from our 460 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: friends and our family and kind of the circles that 461 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: we built and kind of put in this little small bubble. 462 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: And you guys being in Seattle filming this show that 463 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: was like a sensation and a huge hit. Did you 464 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: feel protected by that bubble or did you feel like 465 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: more stuff could more, more things could get away, you know, 466 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: people get away with things. Well we so, Um, the 467 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: pilot was shot up there in Washington. But then um, 468 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: at some point a lot of the series was shot 469 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: in l A. It was remember the exact timeline. Yeah, yeah, So, Um, 470 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: I had no idea what I was in for because 471 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: I had no television experience, no film experience, no experience 472 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: being in front of the public eye. Um. And so 473 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: then like I remember about watching the pilot in the 474 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: series in l A. That's when I was living in 475 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: l A when it started to come out. So we 476 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: were shooting down here. We had studios in the valley. Um. 477 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, in that sense, the only bubble that I 478 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: had was just that I didn't know anything, like totally 479 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:25,719 Speaker 1: totally experienced and had no idea. Unfortunately, you know, social 480 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: media didn't exist that I do. Now. You you saved 481 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: my ass because when we were doing I want to say, 482 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: it's maybe even the next episode, it's when Ellie is 483 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: like moved in with Peyton. I was up for a 484 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: job where there was mandatory nudity, and you had your 485 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: son at the time, and I was just so enamored 486 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: with that that you were this like working mom and 487 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: you would like tell me about your son's dreams and 488 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: the phone calls you would have with him, and I 489 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: loved hearing about this. And I feel like you told me, 490 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: like your son really like snakes, you know, like there's 491 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: there's certain things that just pop. And we talked about 492 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: your kids so much, um that when I was like, 493 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm up for this job, they really want me to 494 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: be naked in it, and you were just like, don't 495 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: do it. You're like, you're gonna have to talk to 496 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: him about it one day, your son. And at the time, 497 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: I was years away from having kids, you know, and 498 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: I was just like, oh god, I never thought about that, 499 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: Like I never thought about the people in my future 500 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: i'd have to have these conversations with. And it really 501 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: changed the way I made decisions and the way I 502 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: prioritized jobs. And it made me reconsider like which jobs 503 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: were artsy and which job you know, because they were. 504 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: There was kind of the stick with women where they 505 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: be like, well, if you're a real artist, you'll you'll 506 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,479 Speaker 1: do all the things we want you to do. And 507 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: you called bullsh on it for me at a very 508 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: young age and made me feel empowered to be like, 509 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, sounds like a low budget movie to me. 510 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: You guys go this was Titanic. Pay me like a 511 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: French girl. But also, okay, yeah, I learned that one 512 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: the hard way. I didn't have anyone tell me, um 513 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: to think about that or two. And also I, you know, 514 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: a lot of the jobs I did, I didn't feel 515 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,479 Speaker 1: like there was a choice. It was like work as 516 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: an actor, where as an actress, this is this is 517 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: what you do, and um, within that, there are parameters 518 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,239 Speaker 1: of you know, what the audience sees is what you 519 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: did say yes to, not what you said no to. 520 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, so um, I would do a lot things 521 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: different if I could go back into well even but 522 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: even in like during that era, it was still really 523 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: normal to not have a choice, you know, like if 524 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: you wanted to do a show on HBO or cable, 525 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: we all were presented with that. It was like that 526 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: was part of the contract. If you want to be 527 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:05,719 Speaker 1: on a big girl show, you gotta you know, bear all. 528 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: And you were so protective of us even in the 529 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: midst of all of that, when it was still really 530 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: really prevalent um. I feel like it only not like 531 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: just only recently in the last year or two, is 532 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: where you can be like no, and then they just 533 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: hire a body double so it looks like you were 534 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: naked anyway. And I feel like a lot of that 535 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: changed with Sex in the City because all those girls, 536 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: like um, what's her name, Kim Control was the only 537 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: one on that show who was ever naked real camera. Yeah, 538 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: Santhia Nixon was too. Cynthia Nixon was okay, but the 539 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: other two weren't. And you know, you're on a show 540 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: called Sex and the City and it's all about girls, 541 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: and there's young women in their sex lives, and two 542 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: of the lead actresses who were very famous already at 543 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: the time, did not have to be nude in the 544 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: show ever, And um, I don't know how Sarah Sarah 545 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: Jessica worked that into her contract or um or Kim Davis, 546 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: but Kim Davis, Um, what's her name? Christin Davis christ 547 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: and Davis thinking um, but yeah, but I think when 548 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: that happened, and it's said an example of like, look, 549 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: if Sarah Jessica Barker can lead a show called Sex 550 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: in the City all about sex and never have to 551 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: be nude on him, I think the rest of us 552 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: can figure it out. We can certainly do a TV drama. 553 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: And it also made it so easy to be like, yeah, 554 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: people have sex and bras guys moving on, like moving 555 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: on sex and that's it. Yeah, it should be Oh 556 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,719 Speaker 1: my god, It's like it's like that movie driving in 557 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: cars with boys, but it's having sex on TV and bras. 558 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: Let's write down memoir Sirl, how they how they come 559 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: to you for our show? How did we get you? Um? Yeah, 560 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, they just someone. Um. All I remember 561 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: is knowing that there was an arc and knowing that 562 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: it was a limited amount, which was good because that's 563 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: all I could do with my son being young, and 564 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: because I was living in l A And it was 565 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: shot there, and um, and so I just remember going 566 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: in to talk to Mark about the character. And I 567 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: was really interested in the character and I was interested 568 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: in the show and and that was kind of all 569 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: I remember about it and just feeling like, Yeah, this this, 570 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: I'm really excited about this. It's such an interesting character 571 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: because to player who is coming, you know, you've got 572 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: the layer of dying, You've got the layer of coming 573 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: of having given up your child for adoption and never 574 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: seen her for years and years And I mean, how 575 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: old Peyton were you? Seven? Hillary was Peyton when? You know? 576 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: When when Ellie it was at birth? Right? Like you're right, 577 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: you right? Okay, um, and then you're you're you've come back, 578 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: but you're still kind of aloof and don't like totally wanna. 579 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: It's like you want to be in her life, but 580 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: as soon as Peyton reaches out, you're like, I don't 581 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: get too close. It's so interesting and so many layers 582 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: to play. Um, what do you remember about that and 583 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: what were your challenges there? M hm, Well, I you know, 584 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: it's it. I remember just feeling so grateful for our connection. 585 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: You know I loved you right away. That's how I felt, 586 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: of just like, Okay, this is great, I can I 587 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: can anchor into this relationship and all the complexities here 588 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 1: and just feeling that instant you know, that's always such 589 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: a gift to just have that instant chemistry and um. 590 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: You know it's before, before I became a mother, my 591 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: memories about my work experiences were about my work experience. 592 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: And after I became a mother, my memories about my 593 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: work experience changed to, um, what were the complexities of 594 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: life going on behind the scenes of the work experience, 595 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: the traveling back and forth, the times that my son 596 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: got to come visit UM while I was there working. Uh, 597 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: you know, those are the things that it becomes more 598 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: about what was going on in life. Um. And also 599 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: just also where UM I remember just that I did 600 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: feel very grateful for the complexities of the character that 601 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: as a as a as a woman, and as an actress, 602 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: just always trying to find um parts that were multifaceted. 603 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: You know that that part of it, I really appreciate it. 604 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: And and everyone was so nice there you all, you 605 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: know that everyone was like you showed up. It was 606 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: like the cool girls here, Oh, my god, she's so cool. 607 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: I remember I remember one time a hurricane was coming 608 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: when I was trying to figure out how to fly home, 609 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: and I remember just sitting there watching in like the 610 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 1: restaurant bar or something in the city, watching going as 611 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: the hurricane is coming in on the news, which probably 612 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: the hurricane parties. So did you always know that Ellie 613 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: was going to die? They were always like, yes, yeah, 614 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: this is really because see I didn't ryl. I didn't 615 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: and they kind of like led me on to be like, oh, 616 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: you've had to kiss all the boys on the show already. 617 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: You know, like this is gonna be your new trajectory. 618 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: You get to go do this other thing. And so 619 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: then when you sorry spoiler alert for anybody who's watching 620 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: along with us caught up. When Ellie dies, I was despondent, 621 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: like like no one could talk sense. And to me 622 00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 1: they were like, Hillary, it's okay, And I'm like, but 623 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: she's going to come back from the dead, right, like 624 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: maybe she's got a sister on this show too. How 625 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: do we get Cheryl back? Um? And that's interesting that 626 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: we never never told me. Someone said don't say anything, 627 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: or um, wow, yeah, I was ready for you. To 628 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: stay forever and ever, and then eventually we meet Peyton's 629 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: birth father, John Doe, who is from the band X, 630 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: the punk band out in l A. And I just 631 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,240 Speaker 1: feel like it's such a missed opportunity that our parents, 632 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: like my parents, were never in the same place at 633 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,879 Speaker 1: the same time. Sofia, did your parents ever really get 634 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: into the same place at the same time? Did your 635 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 1: dad ever arrive? Yes, the Brooks dad. So you know, 636 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: we get Daphnie Um playing my mom playing Victoria in 637 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: season five, so you got to do Overla, Gary Harrison, 638 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: Robert Davis Jr. Who went by Ted. I've never understood 639 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: why Ted is a nickname for Robert, but someone can 640 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: explain to us. At another time was played by a 641 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: lovely actor, Richard Bergie. Hillary, you didn't get to meet him, kiss, 642 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 1: I had a crush on Oh, you would have had 643 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: such a crush on Richard. He's such a dream book him. 644 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,439 Speaker 1: Him and Gregory Harrison they played Julian's dad's and I 645 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 1: was like, we won the dad Jack pop, What is 646 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: going on here? That sent me back to soap opera 647 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: days because I was the two of them, that's what all. 648 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: And I was just going to stare at you. I'm 649 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: I'm looking at my telephone right now. And god, what 650 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 1: a lovely man. And he and he and Daphne played 651 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: off of each other deliciously. Their chemistry was so great 652 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: and the three of us just had a ball. I 653 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 1: really wish we'd had him on the show before the 654 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: last season because he was wonderful. Cheryl. We have gotten 655 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 1: a lot of closure and redemption and also like a 656 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 1: lot of fun by doing this like podcast reboot rewatch situation. 657 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: But you guys did that with Twin Peaks years ago, 658 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 1: Like you guys all got together again. How many years 659 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: after the original show to do this reboot? Um, Well 660 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 1: it was almost twenty five years. Amazing, twenty five years? 661 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 1: Wait was it on this twenty minutes? Wait a minute? 662 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: Were like mad is dumb? And I think that we 663 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:46,879 Speaker 1: did season three around um six years ago or seven 664 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: years ago? And I was you guys did did? And 665 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: I was like and it was like two when we 666 00:39:54,840 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: did five years? How is getting that call? Who? What call? 667 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: Or like, how did that go down? Well? It was 668 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: you know, there's been rumors for decades that we were 669 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: going to do UM seasons and we knew that was 670 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: not going to happen. So I didn't pay any attention 671 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: to the rumors, and so then um, these rumors started 672 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: happening that seemed to not kind of quiet. It's like 673 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,720 Speaker 1: the wave of the rumor just kept getting bigger. Finally, 674 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,399 Speaker 1: one of the castmates reached out to me and said, 675 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 1: you know this is real. That's that There's no way. 676 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: So I sent it David an email and asked, is 677 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: this this is real? And did he answer? Did he 678 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: send back like a coded message or something weird? I 679 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 1: feel like he'st like a hot air balloon or something. 680 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: It was a little bit cryptic, it was. It was 681 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: a little bit mysterious, yes, but not really any just 682 00:40:56,239 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 1: more to come, dude. So what was your experience shooting 683 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 1: in Wilmington's um before. I've been there so many times 684 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: before that if you're familiar going back or or was it? 685 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,760 Speaker 1: I loved working so much um So I had stayed. 686 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,879 Speaker 1: I can't even remember the jobs that I did there. 687 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: They were independent films. I had stayed once in one 688 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: of those beach houses. Yeah, it's amazing and um and 689 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 1: then also downtown. So I loved that feeling of that. UM. 690 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: I felt like creatively it really fed the work, whatever 691 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: the work that I was doing was, I found it 692 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: to be. Um. I really enjoyed it creatively. You know, 693 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 1: there's history there, there's a lot of interesting different parts 694 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: to that place. It's a really artistic town too, there's 695 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: so much theater, so many fine arts, communities and music. Yeah. 696 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 1: I love act and just the feeling of the sort 697 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 1: of smaller city feeling that was really nice to be in. Well, 698 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 1: and there's a there's a weirdness to Wilmington's you know, 699 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,240 Speaker 1: there's kind of like a because it's such a haunted city, 700 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,280 Speaker 1: there's like a little bit of like a cryptic feel 701 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 1: to it. And Ellie is kind of a cryptic woman. 702 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: You know, she's living in this like dilapidated Victorian home 703 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: with no furniture and like a lot she doesn't even 704 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: have a glass to drink out. There's like a lot 705 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 1: of eggs carton like this will do. There's like roaches 706 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: everywhere and high glass no but it um. You know, 707 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: there's an edge to this character that I think was 708 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:54,839 Speaker 1: great because so often women are portrayed as martyrs if 709 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: they're playing mothers, you know, everyone wants the martyr, and 710 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: Ellie's just like no, I I chose a fun life. Yeah, 711 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 1: I made the choice that was right for me, Like 712 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: I'm not going to apologize for it, you know, which 713 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 1: was great and kind of revolutionary at the time. Um yeah, 714 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: how did you put it together at a time where 715 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 1: not everyone was doing that? Well? I feel like they they, 716 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: the writers did the work, do you know what I mean? 717 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:33,240 Speaker 1: That that was there and so to really just um, unfortunately, 718 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,760 Speaker 1: I had known many women in my life who didn't 719 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: just follow um the supposed to us or or you know, 720 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 1: and so I had references, you know, personal references that 721 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 1: I could draw from, and that um, that kind of 722 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:59,879 Speaker 1: directness and just inner knowing and um, just that kind 723 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 1: that life experience. There's something I don't think the writers 724 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:09,280 Speaker 1: did though they didn't to me, Elisa of Eli's behavior 725 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: was really contrasting, you know, showing up and wanting to 726 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 1: be a part of Peyton's life and begging to be 727 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 1: a part of it, and then when Peyton comes to 728 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 1: find her, pushing her away and then coming back, and 729 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 1: that the push and pull. It's that's just on the 730 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 1: page and making it believable, creating a character that you 731 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: had to justify that behavior for you so that you 732 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: could empathize with her and then play you know, play her. 733 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,799 Speaker 1: That's that's not anything the writers did, that's you. And 734 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm interested to know how you justified all that behavior 735 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: for her in order to make her someone that we 736 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,720 Speaker 1: didn't hate like we loved her. We we empathized along 737 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,879 Speaker 1: with her as well, even though she was feeling all 738 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 1: these complicated things. Yeah, and now I look at the 739 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,800 Speaker 1: way she treated her daughter, and I'm like, wow, that's intense. 740 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,879 Speaker 1: I remember hearing, uh, you know from one of my 741 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 1: acting teachers at a very young age that if you 742 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 1: can find the love under all that right that if 743 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: it's if it's because of the love underneath it, then um, 744 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 1: it's then I could find as a mother away to 745 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 1: justify it. If that makes sense. Yeah. Everybody just sort 746 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 1: of does what they think is best, and usually you, 747 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 1: I can understand how you would be doing those things 748 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 1: thinking that it's best for Peyton and thinking that you're 749 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 1: willing to hurt yourself for the sake of her, even 750 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 1: though she doesn't understand. Yeah, that's kind of what I 751 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 1: was getting from Ellie anyway. So of all the storylines 752 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: that Peyton had to do, the one that I get 753 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 1: the most fans feedback from is this one because there 754 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: there are a number of people out there who have 755 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: lost a parent to cancer, and this storyline, as messy 756 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 1: as it is, you know, as like back and forth 757 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,439 Speaker 1: as it is, as conflicted as it is, UM has 758 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 1: been cathartic for a lot of people. And I feel 759 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,320 Speaker 1: like when I saw you at the convention, you mentioned 760 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 1: that people come up and or have talked to you 761 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 1: about it and been like, thank you so much for 762 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,919 Speaker 1: doing this storyline. Has that been your experience often? Yeah? 763 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 1: If if I'm ever recognized for this, it is usually 764 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:47,359 Speaker 1: with someone who has experience with cancer UM, you know, 765 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: And I wish there were more stories out there about UM, 766 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 1: this for children and parents, and you know, I feel 767 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 1: like that's part of as storytellers, that's part of our 768 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 1: responsibility is to really keep UM bringing bringing these stories 769 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,840 Speaker 1: into the into the awareness for healing and from the 770 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 1: conversation and UM so people feel seen and known and 771 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: there's something somebody else is going through this too. I'm 772 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 1: not alone. Yes, we don't think about like how old 773 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 1: we were doing this. You don't think about it on 774 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: the day, but then like all these years later, you 775 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,799 Speaker 1: realize you're providing other people with the language and with 776 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:41,760 Speaker 1: the framework to deal with it in real life, because 777 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 1: if you don't have the right words, you know, if 778 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,919 Speaker 1: you don't have an example of like a person whether 779 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 1: they be real or fictional, living past a bad situation 780 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 1: like this, you don't know what it looks like. But 781 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 1: if you can watch it and visualize it and be like, oh, no, 782 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 1: we've lost this carrot dir and then life moves on 783 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 1: as it does, but it is changed, you know, to 784 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 1: give people a safe place to witness grief, I think 785 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 1: can also be very transformational because when you go through loss, 786 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,720 Speaker 1: it's so personal. It's often very private. When you're grieving, 787 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 1: you tend to stay home. It's insular, and so it's 788 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 1: not something in our society we've been able to witness 789 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 1: a lot of it's very private and personal. And hearing 790 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 1: about the ways in which a storyline like this one 791 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 1: for an audience can model how hard it will be 792 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,839 Speaker 1: to lose somebody, but also that they will remain with 793 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,280 Speaker 1: you in ways that you will carry on a project 794 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,439 Speaker 1: that you began with them before they died, as Peyton does, 795 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 1: that that you will honor them in parts of your life. 796 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 1: And yes, you will be if you are if we 797 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 1: are lucky enough to survive someone. And I don't mean 798 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,280 Speaker 1: we're lucky that we've lost someone. I mean like we're lucky, 799 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 1: we're alive. We're all lucky. We're alive every day. You know, 800 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 1: if you're lucky enough to continue living your life, you 801 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,360 Speaker 1: can do it in a way where you carry that 802 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: person with you. And and yeah, like when had we 803 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 1: ever seen that before? We got to see you guys 804 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:35,239 Speaker 1: do it in a storyline. It was beautiful, um that 805 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 1: I I was. I was so sad when he left 806 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,360 Speaker 1: and then I left the show and hooked up with 807 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 1: Jeff and then the first job he does right when 808 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,600 Speaker 1: I gave birth to us, like Gus was like two 809 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,839 Speaker 1: months old. He's like, oh my bluddy, Cheryl's doing this 810 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 1: movie with me. I was like, Cheryl, who you don't know? 811 00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 1: Or Sheryl Lee And I'm like, she's my mother. But 812 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 1: you guys have known each other like forever. And that 813 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 1: was such a weird. It was the universe's way of 814 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,399 Speaker 1: being like Hillary, you didn't misread the connection, Like this 815 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 1: is someone who is absolutely like supposed to be in 816 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 1: your world. It's good to love her. I was so 817 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 1: happy that you guys just like randomly were in this 818 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 1: movie together. But again, you were playing like a bad girl. 819 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,319 Speaker 1: Is that your stick? Does everyone cast you to play 820 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 1: like a drunkie pants? Or I die? Yeah? I was 821 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 1: doing the other day how many times I had died? 822 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,360 Speaker 1: I die all the time? To Cheryl, you do everything 823 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 1: I'm in, they kill me off. I'm like, what is it? 824 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:41,879 Speaker 1: Do you hate me? Or am I just like so 825 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:48,400 Speaker 1: lovely that to kill me is so tragic the second one. 826 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:56,839 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna break everybody's heart of dying always. Yeah, 827 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,880 Speaker 1: haven't you done like a vampire movie? Yeah? God, I 828 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,719 Speaker 1: the life sucked out of me. Yeah, what about you? 829 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 1: Let's talk about that. What's been your favorite on screen death? 830 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 1: Of all the things that you've passed in, what's been 831 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,720 Speaker 1: the winner? You know? I mean it kind of probably 832 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 1: is Twin Peaks, but it wasn't that. It was probably 833 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 1: more just the um experience of being able to you 834 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 1: know that that first scene being found on the beach 835 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,359 Speaker 1: wrapped in plastic. I didn't have any lines, thank god, 836 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 1: because I was so nervous and I didn't know anything 837 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,359 Speaker 1: about filmmaking or television or anything, and so I got 838 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 1: to just lay there like a little sponge and soak 839 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:49,360 Speaker 1: it all up. So yeah, taped up in my plastic. 840 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 1: But Matt Hillary's question is that sort of your your 841 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 1: typical go to people cast you is the bad girl 842 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,359 Speaker 1: a lot? And is there anything that you're still just 843 00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 1: like dying to do? Um? Well, no one thinks. I mean, 844 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 1: I've never I don't think I've ever done a comedy. 845 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever really, I mean, unless it 846 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,120 Speaker 1: would be maybe be a really really dark it's a 847 00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 1: dark comedy. Yeah, yeah, and I would love to do 848 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, I played a vampire at one point. But 849 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,400 Speaker 1: I would also love to do something really kind of fantasy, 850 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 1: like like oh yeah, me too, write like Lord of 851 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 1: the Rings, like pans Labyrinth, like something really weird. Should 852 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 1: we all do the Witches of east Wick? Is that 853 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 1: what this podcast is really about? Girl? Let's just leave 854 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 1: witches hello as long as we can fly. Yeah. I 855 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,680 Speaker 1: like reading about Appellation witches because what they would do 856 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 1: is at night they would shape shift and then they 857 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,240 Speaker 1: turn men into horses and ride them all night long 858 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 1: around the countryside. So when these men woke up, they 859 00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 1: would like couldn't go to work. They had the vapors. 860 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:00,839 Speaker 1: I've been written by a witch all night and I'm 861 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,600 Speaker 1: just like, I feel like this is a lot of innuendo. 862 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna We're gonna be some creepy which is Cheryl. 863 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:14,839 Speaker 1: I can't wait. Somebody give us some money. Yeah, One 864 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 1: Tree Hill twenty five years later, just like Twin Peaks 865 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 1: is now a supernatural experience. What do we have? What 866 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 1: do we have seven years to go or something we 867 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:27,720 Speaker 1: can We'll figure it out. I'm all for it. Um, Sryl. 868 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,879 Speaker 1: The only thing that I took from the show when 869 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 1: I left was Ellie's leather jacket. It is my prize possession. Oh, 870 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,280 Speaker 1: I keep it in a safe space. My son steals 871 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 1: all my coats because he's my size now, and I'm 872 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:48,239 Speaker 1: just like, don't touch that one. That's that's the special one. Um. 873 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,600 Speaker 1: But I hope I get to see you in real 874 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 1: life soon. Um. We've got more conventions and stuff coming up. 875 00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 1: But you're such an important part of this show, and 876 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,440 Speaker 1: you were really, really really important part of my time 877 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 1: on the show, and you know that well. I am 878 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 1: very very grateful to have been a part of the show. 879 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,359 Speaker 1: And it just warms my heart to see all your 880 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:18,360 Speaker 1: beautiful faces and smiles and congratulations on everything you're doing, 881 00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 1: and just tons and tons of love and gratitude. We 882 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 1: need to do a mommy daughter trip with all of 883 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 1: our mothers from the show and all the girls from 884 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 1: the show. God, Yes, Best Armstrong, Schery, Lee, Daphne's Uniga. 885 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:38,919 Speaker 1: Let's go to Moira and Barbara and let's hit the road. 886 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 1: Let's hit the bar Oh. We love seeing you. Thank 887 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:48,279 Speaker 1: you so much for coming so much, Cheryl, thank you 888 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:54,040 Speaker 1: all so much. I love her. I've got no childhood 889 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 1: dream come true. No, that she's amazing. I can't believe 890 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,080 Speaker 1: you held your tears back. That was even still, Like, 891 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,160 Speaker 1: she just makes me. It's not that I'm nervous. It's 892 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,880 Speaker 1: not that I'm nervous. It's that I just get like 893 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 1: giddy about her and geek out so hard because I 894 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,840 Speaker 1: get it. Oh, I wanted to keep her so bad. 895 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,520 Speaker 1: If we've gotten to keep Cheryl, oh my god. But 896 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,440 Speaker 1: it's probably wouldn't have packed the same punch though, you know, 897 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,840 Speaker 1: it's so great, Like she was so iconic because the 898 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 1: way she came in and I mean this character was 899 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 1: so iconic because she came in and went out so 900 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,439 Speaker 1: quickly and made such a huge impact, and only somebody 901 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,240 Speaker 1: Cheryl's caliber and talent could have been able to handle 902 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,879 Speaker 1: that and make that happen well. And now I look 903 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 1: at the part that she played and the fact that 904 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,160 Speaker 1: she was able to be like a mother and work 905 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,839 Speaker 1: out of talent on location, and I'm just like, when 906 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,440 Speaker 1: do I get to start playing Ellie's Like, who's going 907 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 1: to call me to play the Ellie Harp character? In what? 908 00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 1: I mean? I don't even know what teenage shows are 909 00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,640 Speaker 1: on right now. Yeah, that makes me sound like a grandma. 910 00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,759 Speaker 1: I'm like one of the kids watching these days. But yeah, 911 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,719 Speaker 1: those are the parts that are really fun as a 912 00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,879 Speaker 1: mom to go in and like put the leather leather 913 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,080 Speaker 1: bracelet on in the cool concert t and you're not 914 00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 1: in the school pickup line for a couple of days, 915 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 1: and you're like, yeah, yeah, I'm cool. I remember how 916 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:27,240 Speaker 1: to be cool. She's so freaking cool. It was interesting 917 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 1: to me too that like, as as we are wondering 918 00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 1: again not perhaps inappropriately, but like we're learning things as 919 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:40,719 Speaker 1: bold women and we don't love this, um see saw 920 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 1: that's happening with Lucas and Peyton and Lucas and Brooke. 921 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,719 Speaker 1: I forgot that in this episode, Brooke is upset that 922 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,000 Speaker 1: she's not hearing from Lucas all day and Haley's not 923 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:54,680 Speaker 1: hearing from Nathan at all, and that misdirect was gold 924 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,759 Speaker 1: when you're like, well, make a boy, what would make 925 00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 1: a boy just leave a girl after a night? And 926 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,719 Speaker 1: I was like this comment, this is actually in an 927 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:06,759 Speaker 1: episode the same but not admitting, not knowing that the 928 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,759 Speaker 1: other person was going through the exact same thing. And 929 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 1: then we were both angry and trying to solve our 930 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,760 Speaker 1: own problems without each other. I loved it. I also 931 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:19,600 Speaker 1: loved that at the end of the episode when Nathan 932 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 1: comes to the door, like there was something vulnerable on 933 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 1: James's face and I saw you see it and know 934 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:29,960 Speaker 1: that you had been sort of making up a story 935 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,680 Speaker 1: that wasn't true all day and you just welcomed him in, 936 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:38,320 Speaker 1: and and and the familiarity between those two, between Nathan 937 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:43,479 Speaker 1: and Haley makes it work wordlessly. Well, that's it. There's 938 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,760 Speaker 1: no misdirect there. He just I wanted to spend some 939 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:48,640 Speaker 1: time with you, or can I hang out with your 940 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:52,840 Speaker 1: relief instead of Lucas, Who's like I got a thing 941 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:58,080 Speaker 1: to do with you, you know, like, yeah, yeah, girls 942 00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 1: take a lesson misdirect not it's I mean, not to 943 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 1: be men take a lesson. This is what I'm saying, 944 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,600 Speaker 1: Like men in cafe's like you're direct, but not be direct. 945 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:15,160 Speaker 1: Doing Nathan, Nathan, Nathan. That's really the point, guys being Nathan. 946 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:20,400 Speaker 1: I also loved in the ways that everyone's love story 947 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 1: is a little messy right now. I love the love 948 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:30,440 Speaker 1: story of Peyton and Ellie and Peyton trying to find 949 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,880 Speaker 1: a way to talk to her, and and Hillary, you 950 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 1: did it so beautifully because you can tell that you 951 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,200 Speaker 1: don't really want to be totally vulnerable, so you make 952 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,320 Speaker 1: it about work. But then like you're hanging out and 953 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,280 Speaker 1: you're learning about the record she loves, and she's talking 954 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 1: about T shirts and like your mom might give you 955 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 1: a T shirt from The Beautiful Got Me in real life, 956 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,800 Speaker 1: Like that's my love language when someone gives me a 957 00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,640 Speaker 1: thing that's theirs and it's not like a new thing, 958 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,040 Speaker 1: you know, and you both have done it. You both 959 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,200 Speaker 1: have given me things that you're just like, oh, do 960 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 1: you want this thing? And I'm like, uh, yes, I do. 961 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 1: And there's um there's kind of that like thrist Store 962 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,440 Speaker 1: quality to it, where it's like this has collected a 963 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,320 Speaker 1: narrative before it's come to me, and the idea that 964 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,120 Speaker 1: Peyton is going to get these records of these T 965 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:23,480 Speaker 1: shirts from this woman to create an intimacy is you know, 966 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 1: HiT's a little close to home. But I also so 967 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,680 Speaker 1: much of our show is about whatever boy you're dating, 968 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 1: and it's just me. It meant so much to me 969 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:39,640 Speaker 1: to have a storyline that wasn't about a dude. Yeah, 970 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 1: I think it meant a lot to our audience as well, 971 00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,920 Speaker 1: because that's not it's not literally everything everybody thinks about 972 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,200 Speaker 1: all the time. Like, yes, when you're young and hormonal, 973 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:53,000 Speaker 1: you know, you're romantic interests are at the forefront of 974 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 1: your mind most of the time. But there are a 975 00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 1: lot of people, a lot of people have problems with 976 00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 1: their family and their siblings and and with their parents 977 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,040 Speaker 1: and how they're doing their school, and that can be 978 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,160 Speaker 1: that can take over at any moment, and it was 979 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 1: really really a relief to see that represented with um 980 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,040 Speaker 1: with Peyton and Ellie. You know what's interesting you're saying 981 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,080 Speaker 1: that I remember and I wrote it down in my 982 01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:21,960 Speaker 1: notes when we started watching this episode. There there's some 983 01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,240 Speaker 1: stuff for the comedy that they gave Brook that made 984 01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 1: me laugh, but it was so cringe e. They would 985 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:34,440 Speaker 1: they would sometimes push me into these directions where I, 986 01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,720 Speaker 1: as Sophia, would feel like they were they wanted Brooke 987 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,880 Speaker 1: to be mean or really tone deaf or like over 988 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:45,840 Speaker 1: the top. And it was very interesting because I remember 989 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:50,400 Speaker 1: feeling then like Brooks finally launching her company and now 990 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,680 Speaker 1: she's just going to be awful to everyone. And now 991 01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,960 Speaker 1: I was like so self conscious about it. But it's like, Okay, 992 01:00:58,040 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 1: this is what you've written for me, and I'm going 993 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,040 Speaker 1: to commit and I'm I'm going to try my best, 994 01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,360 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna put her paranoia about losing her chance 995 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:08,280 Speaker 1: underneath it and try to humanize it. And watching it, 996 01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:13,000 Speaker 1: for some reason, now with with like distance, I could 997 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,040 Speaker 1: hear it in a different way, and I was like, 998 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:20,480 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, they wanted Brooke to be like 999 01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,240 Speaker 1: the worst version of herself, the cheerleader that Faith is 1000 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,680 Speaker 1: talking to Lucas about. So she was like, He's like, 1001 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:27,600 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not defending who Brooke was, I'm defending 1002 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 1: who she is. And then it comes in and she's 1003 01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,320 Speaker 1: like a banshee screaming and everyone like running a sweatshop. 1004 01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:36,480 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, my god, there's children, children, children. 1005 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,280 Speaker 1: But now I can see the comedic device in a 1006 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,720 Speaker 1: way that at the time I was like, why she 1007 01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,080 Speaker 1: got to be mean when she's finally doing something for herself. 1008 01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,240 Speaker 1: So it's interesting. I loved it not just for the 1009 01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:55,400 Speaker 1: comedic device, but also because again, characters have to have 1010 01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 1: flaws and to be able to see Brooke at her worst, 1011 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,680 Speaker 1: falling being a mess, falling apart, like we said, messy, 1012 01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,640 Speaker 1: messy Brook and a big lovable mess. And then the 1013 01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,800 Speaker 1: second that Hayley's like, hey, stop it, you're being a 1014 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 1: huge bitch. Be nice to people. Everybody here is busting 1015 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,960 Speaker 1: their asses for you. And Brooke turns on a dime 1016 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,479 Speaker 1: and she says, you're right. There's a lot of people 1017 01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,560 Speaker 1: out there who don't. They get defensive, you know, it's 1018 01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,400 Speaker 1: like it takes days or weeks or years before they're 1019 01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,480 Speaker 1: leaving admit that they're wrong. And Brooke is like, oh 1020 01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 1: my god, you're right, and she turns immediately because she's 1021 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:35,960 Speaker 1: not afraid. She's not afraid of being wrong. That's kind 1022 01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,160 Speaker 1: of what's great about living a messy life, right, She's 1023 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 1: not afraid of being wrong. It's a good example of 1024 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,040 Speaker 1: female friendship. Where you can haul your friend out on 1025 01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,920 Speaker 1: something and it's not a fight that ends the relationship. 1026 01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,040 Speaker 1: We've talked about that a number of times, where when 1027 01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:52,040 Speaker 1: someone tells you the truth, you realize, oh, you really 1028 01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:55,480 Speaker 1: love and respect me. And that's example. Thank you. Would 1029 01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 1: way rather watch somebody who's being a huge, huge ass 1030 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,520 Speaker 1: sut go, oh my god, I'm being such an asshole 1031 01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:06,480 Speaker 1: right now. I'm so sorry, everybody, I'm really sorry. That's great. 1032 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's like we're only human, that's the what 1033 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:12,160 Speaker 1: else can we expect? Much rather watch that than somebody 1034 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,760 Speaker 1: who's just like a jerk for no reason and then 1035 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:20,520 Speaker 1: never admits they're wrong. Dan Scott, Dan Scott Scott. How 1036 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,680 Speaker 1: about Dan walking into Haley and Nate bedroom that was 1037 01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:28,120 Speaker 1: picking up for a second, picking up her bra, that 1038 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:32,440 Speaker 1: picking up a teenage girls bra and talking about a 1039 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,400 Speaker 1: one night stand. It's like it wasn't sexual. It's all 1040 01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,600 Speaker 1: power for him. It's like it has nothing to do 1041 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,600 Speaker 1: with him trying to be like a creepy pervy. He 1042 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:45,320 Speaker 1: wasn't being pervy. He was being his normal power hungry 1043 01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,760 Speaker 1: self and in any way that he could diminish someone 1044 01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:51,080 Speaker 1: else and make them feel insecure and humiliated. That's what 1045 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:56,240 Speaker 1: the picking up the bra was. But regardless, it's still disgusting. 1046 01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,560 Speaker 1: And then to say at least Peyton was pleasant and 1047 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 1: the more in just to remind you so gross. It's 1048 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:10,400 Speaker 1: petty in a way that like, no, no adult should 1049 01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:14,040 Speaker 1: be this petty and stealing the note like he swepes 1050 01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:19,480 Speaker 1: Nathan's handwritten note to her what are you seven? Yeah? Yeah, 1051 01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:23,040 Speaker 1: I need Dan to like. I liked it when Dan 1052 01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:29,800 Speaker 1: and Karen got flirty in future episodes because Dan without 1053 01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:33,800 Speaker 1: that glimmer of redemption is a tough pill to swallow. 1054 01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:38,120 Speaker 1: But Dan, if I if I'm always on the verge 1055 01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,280 Speaker 1: of being like, mmm, it's just a more fun Dan 1056 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:45,320 Speaker 1: to me? Could I kiss him? Could I have an 1057 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 1: hour long lunch with him before finding out he's engaged? Honestly, Honestly, 1058 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,040 Speaker 1: you went on a lunch date with Dan Scott, that's 1059 01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:56,520 Speaker 1: what happened to you. Joy, Oh my god, Joy, it's 1060 01:04:56,560 --> 01:05:00,160 Speaker 1: so frustrating. He was so nice and handsome and sweet 1061 01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:07,520 Speaker 1: and he's running. I will never get over a grown 1062 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,400 Speaker 1: ass man texting you. Well, if I had a nickel 1063 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:14,200 Speaker 1: for every time I got hit on by a woman X, 1064 01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:17,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have to use me wasn't like, I think 1065 01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,160 Speaker 1: knowing this guy's tone, he was like, whatever, if I 1066 01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:21,920 Speaker 1: had a nickel, I thought it was blah blah blah. 1067 01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,000 Speaker 1: Like I think that's what he was going for. But 1068 01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,959 Speaker 1: it's just like, I hope he read it back after 1069 01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:31,439 Speaker 1: he sent it and was like, yeah, that didn't read 1070 01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,160 Speaker 1: very much. Yeah, I really hope he made himself feel 1071 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,320 Speaker 1: queasy because he made me feel sick to my stomach. 1072 01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,600 Speaker 1: He's like in bed with babe, Babe, look at this text. 1073 01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:46,760 Speaker 1: This looks weird. This girl, and I think she got 1074 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,840 Speaker 1: the wrong idea. It's like she thought I asked her 1075 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,080 Speaker 1: out or something because I asked her to have a 1076 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:54,840 Speaker 1: meal with me. Idiot. No, guys, I'm just not enlightened enough. 1077 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:58,840 Speaker 1: I'm not enlightened enough to it too. When we talked 1078 01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:02,120 Speaker 1: about gasoline on yourself and just light it on fire him, 1079 01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,600 Speaker 1: now we talk about Tree Hill voters and how it's 1080 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:09,200 Speaker 1: possible that Dan Scott was able to charm a town 1081 01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,800 Speaker 1: into not understanding his associate path. This is what I'm 1082 01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,880 Speaker 1: going to envision, like in line at lunch asking pretty 1083 01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,680 Speaker 1: girls to sit with him and then be like, why 1084 01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:23,200 Speaker 1: did you misinterpret this? What's your problem? I'm just trying 1085 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:37,000 Speaker 1: to get my constituents y. Yeah, um, do we need 1086 01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:41,160 Speaker 1: to spin a wheel, ladies, Yes, we sure do. Let's 1087 01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:47,360 Speaker 1: spin that wheel. Yeah. Okay, we got a most likely 1088 01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:58,360 Speaker 1: too great regift, something gifted to them. M mmm, I 1089 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:05,200 Speaker 1: mean okay. On the show, Dan Scott, I feel like, 1090 01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,840 Speaker 1: you know how teachers always get the gifts at the 1091 01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:09,840 Speaker 1: end of the year, Like, how many mugs does a 1092 01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:13,480 Speaker 1: teacher really need? You know? Is the kind of guy 1093 01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:17,080 Speaker 1: that's just like, here, take this thing. I think it's 1094 01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:22,120 Speaker 1: hailing really, oh my god, dude, tell it's I think 1095 01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:27,600 Speaker 1: it's like the one. It's it's like a something she 1096 01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:31,200 Speaker 1: could get away with. That's not wrong. It's just to 1097 01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,840 Speaker 1: mind what I mean. It's just flight like and it's 1098 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,360 Speaker 1: like nobody's going to know, and she can just like 1099 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:41,040 Speaker 1: slightly pass it on. No baky, Well, actually, isn't it 1100 01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 1: broke in this episode that gives away all her c 1101 01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,560 Speaker 1: ds and she's like, that's a really nice thing to 1102 01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:50,480 Speaker 1: do with my with my CDs. You know, I can 1103 01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,440 Speaker 1: see Brook doing it majorly. I will say I have 1104 01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,720 Speaker 1: a I have a theory, perhaps controversial, but in the 1105 01:07:55,800 --> 01:08:01,200 Speaker 1: spirit of defending ree gifting every so often I've been 1106 01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:05,439 Speaker 1: given something that I'm like, this is lovely. I don't 1107 01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:09,000 Speaker 1: like to waste stuff. I like I take things to 1108 01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,840 Speaker 1: Goodwill and you know Salvation Army so regularly. But I 1109 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:16,519 Speaker 1: have on occasion been given something and I'm just like, 1110 01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:20,320 Speaker 1: this looks exactly like Jenny or oh my god, you 1111 01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,280 Speaker 1: know who would love this? My friend Jed. Like I've 1112 01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,920 Speaker 1: just been given something that I don't actually need or 1113 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,479 Speaker 1: that like I might have one, but one of my 1114 01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,120 Speaker 1: friends really wants one. And then I'm like, I mean, 1115 01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:33,679 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give it to them for their birthday. 1116 01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:35,559 Speaker 1: That feels weird, but like on a random Tuesday, they're 1117 01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:37,840 Speaker 1: not going to wrap it? Is that the deal? As 1118 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:41,760 Speaker 1: long as you don't wrap a ree gifts, because then 1119 01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,880 Speaker 1: I think it's like you won't believe this thing I got. 1120 01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:45,880 Speaker 1: I knew you wanted one here, and it's just like, 1121 01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:49,479 Speaker 1: well that's nice. I'm not mad. I think we need 1122 01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:58,920 Speaker 1: to buy less stuff, but yeah, destigmatized. Yeah, essentially, it's 1123 01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,920 Speaker 1: how I feel about Vintage. I pay to regift someone 1124 01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:09,160 Speaker 1: else to stuff TOLF like anyway, in real life, that's 1125 01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:12,280 Speaker 1: my theory. That's my theory. Than thank you guys for 1126 01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:15,880 Speaker 1: joining us um, we will see you next week for 1127 01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:23,679 Speaker 1: episode three eleven eleven more drama. Looks like maybe there's 1128 01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:27,680 Speaker 1: uh some storylines actually going to start happening now that 1129 01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,479 Speaker 1: they built all the bridges they needed to build. No 1130 01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:34,560 Speaker 1: more flashbacks. Yeah, the next episode is called Return of 1131 01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:39,439 Speaker 1: the Future, so like maybe we get real time TV back. 1132 01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:48,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. Sorry guys, See you guys later, See 1133 01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:52,360 Speaker 1: you next week. Hey, thanks for listening. Don't forget to 1134 01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,640 Speaker 1: leave us a review. You can also follow us on 1135 01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:58,720 Speaker 1: Instagram at Drama Queens O t H or email us 1136 01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:02,360 Speaker 1: at Drama Queens at I heart radio dot com. See 1137 01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:06,719 Speaker 1: you next time. 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