1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome 2 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: to the show Ridiculous Historians. As always, thank you so 3 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: much for tuning in. As is our want. It is 4 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: past Christmas, it's the very last day of the year, 5 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: so we're gonna crack open some homemade egg nog into 6 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: a Christmas episode just a few days late. I'm Ben. 7 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: I am the first Noel, the last last one. So okay, 8 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: so I am opening this are super producer Casey Pegram 9 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: You you nogging up man. I'm not gonna a cup. 10 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: I don't have a cup. I'm just gonna drink it. 11 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: You didn't bring your knog My knogg is at home. Okay, 12 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: well you guess that's want to taste taste we can cheers. Okay, great, 13 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: my first nogg. Do we give the knog backstory we 14 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: did in the last episode we did previous episode, So 15 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: cheers to you Ridiculous Historians everybody. We're as we record 16 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: as you hear this. Actually we're just a few a 17 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: few short hours away from twenty twenties, So give your 18 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: loved ones a hug, call someone you miss, let them 19 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: know you've got their back in the coming year. Cheers, Cheers, lush, 20 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: some strong knog. Okay, so it's a lot on the 21 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: mic there, Sorry guys. So backstory of our nog this 22 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: was This was made as we mentioned in previous or 23 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: as we mentioned in a different episode. This was made 24 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: by our our composer for Ridiculous History, one Alex Williams, 25 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: also producer of Note, host of the Delightful, Delightfully Quirky 26 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 1: I Heart podcast Ephemeral, has worked on such true crime 27 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: blockbusters as Atlanta, Monster, Monsters, Zodiac, and h a lot 28 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: of other cool stuff. And he's a he's a real 29 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: noster um. He makes this every year and brings to 30 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: the office and they go like hotcakes. And it is 31 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: based on his interpretation of George Washington. Yes, that George 32 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: Washington's incredibly booze heavy famous eggnog recipe, which is kind 33 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: of a we we talked about it in a previous episode. 34 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: So just go find uh find whatever the heck we 35 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: were doing on this show a year ago. And then 36 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: and then uh, you'll you'll hear us, you'll hear us 37 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: give a breakdown of the recipe. I'm gonna try to 38 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: keep up with this nog while we're doing today's episode. 39 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: But this is heavier than I. Remember, you got a 40 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: lot more nogg than me. I'm I'm just I just 41 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: had a little taste of boy I already feel it 42 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: really packs a wallop. I'm trying to find just a 43 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: rundown of the ingredients without like going through the actual method. 44 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: I've got it. Oh wait, here we go. I got 45 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: one here too. We can just launch your list off 46 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 1: real quick. Yeah, let's do it. So, he says, one 47 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: quart cream, one quart milk, one dozen tablespoon and sugar 48 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: and then and then the alcohol starts. That's right, one 49 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: pint brandy, one half pint rye whiskey, one half pint 50 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: Jamaican rum, one quarter pint sherry, and and you mix 51 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: the liquor first, then separate the yolks and whites of 52 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: twelve eggs, add sugar to the beaten yolks and mix well. 53 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: And then you add the milk and cream, and you're 54 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: slowly beating at the whole time. Then you beat the 55 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: egg white stiller stiff. You fold them into the mixture. 56 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: Then you put it somewhere away for several days, tasting frequently. 57 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: So it's crazy. This sounds like a frat house kind 58 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: of recipe. Yeah, man, I I think it's gonna take 59 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: me a while to get this down. What do you think? Yeah, 60 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: what do you think? Yeah? This is one to save 61 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: or over an extended period of time. I completely agree. 62 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: We were having this debate off air. We are getting 63 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: to an episode also by spoiler alert, at some point 64 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: we'll get to what we're supposed to be doing here. 65 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: But we were talking about this off air. There is 66 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: a debate about cold v hot nog. Are you a 67 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: hot dog person or you a cold dog person? I 68 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: think we're we're cold noggins over here, right, big time, forcefully. Yeah, 69 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: although I do understand the potential appeal of a warm 70 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: not hot nog because it's sort of like a hot, 71 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: creamy drink, you know, like a hot cocoa or something, 72 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: and it could work. Yeah, you were saying something like 73 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: thirty seconds in the micro thirty seconds in the microwave, okay, 74 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: And I can see that. You know, you're like by 75 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: a fire baby, it's cold outside, that kind of thing. 76 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: That song is very problematic. It is, We're excredibly problematic. 77 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: It's strange that it was so popular for so long 78 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: and we are talking about of smith songs today with 79 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: a little bit of help from our pal, longtime friend 80 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: of the show and personal friend of the three of us, 81 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: Christopher hauciotis here in Christmas Spirit Chrismas Spirit. I started 82 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: saying that, I just never stopped. I don't. I don't 83 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: know why I say that, but I guess I just 84 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, he was here from the start. Uh. He 85 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: was our research associate early on before our boy Gabe 86 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: joined the show. And now Christopher is often doing exciting 87 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 1: things on his own, uh, And so I always feel 88 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: like he is with us, and we still work with him. 89 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's not we always have the Christopher a 90 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: spirit here, you know. Uh, Christopher will be returning to 91 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: the show in the new year. But now he's, as 92 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: you said, old, doing some some other things. He came 93 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: to us, as he so often does, with this fantastic 94 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: idea that we thought would be pretty interesting. You see, Christopher, 95 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: amongst his many talents, he's he's a cracker jack writer, 96 00:05:54,960 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: and he hipped us to the story behind all those 97 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: Christmas carols that people have been hearing. And you know, 98 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: the weird thing about Christmas carols is in that liminal 99 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: period between Christmas Day and December thirty one, or sorry, 100 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: January one, you still kind of hear those songs, right, 101 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: and it seems like they start every like, when's the 102 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: first time this year you guys heard a Christmas song 103 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: that would count as like Christmas season. It's usually like 104 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: in a grocery store like way pre Christmas season. I 105 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: would say the the less the least egregious early time 106 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: for hearing Christmas music would be like after Thanksgiving. It's 107 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: usually day one after Thanksgiving. I would agree with that 108 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: being the least egregious. But I've heard, you know, I'm 109 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: a Halloween guy myself from multiple levels, so I've heard 110 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: some instrumental Christmas music playing like not three days into November. 111 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: That's heresy. And they've already got, you know, the seasonal 112 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: aisle decorated with stuff. Place smells like cinnamon brooms, just 113 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: get your I think it's because it's such an economic 114 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: boom to brick and mortar stores. But before we do this, 115 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: we do have to have a trigger, a warning for 116 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: anybody who feels like they've heard too much Christmas music. 117 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: We're not gonna be heavy on it, but we may 118 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: have some clips pop up here and there. Right, Yeah, 119 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: I would just about guarantee you um so. A point 120 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: Christopher makes in this article you wrote for How Stuff 121 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: Works back in the day is that advertisers and marketers 122 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: are big fan of the whole idea of the lead 123 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: up to Christmas as we know, it happens earlier and 124 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: earlier every year, it seems like, and it's a little vexing, honestly, 125 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: but they kind of they relish it because they want 126 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: to sell as much stuff and give people as much 127 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: opportunity to remind people that the Christmas season is coming, 128 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: because it also comprises about of all us annual retail sales. 129 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: And uh, I would say the crown jewels of the 130 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: lead up to Christmas song would be the twelve Days 131 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: of Christmas, you know, with the what is it piper's 132 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: piping and the drummer's drumming and partridge that's the last one. 133 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: That's that's you can get there eventually. Do you know 134 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: all of them? I don't. Let's see, no, I'm sorry. 135 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: The partridge in the pear tree is the first one. 136 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: So it's the partridge in a pair. This will be 137 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: a fun quiz. Let's see if I can get this. 138 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: We've got partridge in a pear tree, um, two turtle doves, 139 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: three French hens, four calling birds, five old rings, five 140 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: gold rings. That's the big like the hook right there? Um, 141 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: four calling birds, three French hens, two turtle does, and 142 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: a partridge in a pear tree. So it's nine lords 143 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: of leaping, ten ladies dancing. What is it? Eight six 144 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: six six hens a land, seven pipers piping, eight lords 145 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: of leaping, uh, nine ladies dancing, ten swansa swimming eleven 146 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: geza laying. I'm gonna make new lyrics trap. I've named 147 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: them all, I think, but I haven't named them in 148 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: the exact correct order. I think it's the only fight. 149 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: Let's see. Let's see. Oh, it doesn't go in order. 150 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: It doesn't go chronologically in terms of the days versus 151 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: the number of things. Because on the third day of 152 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: Christmas you got five golden rings. So yeah, I bring 153 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: that up because that's something that a lot of a 154 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 1: lot of us miss. You know, it's it's funny. Um, 155 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: I would agree, it's a trivial question. I don't know 156 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: if it's a fun trivial question. I think just because 157 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest fan of that song, but I 158 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: am a fan of that Song's history. It first shows 159 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: up in England in seventeen eighties, so it's a little 160 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: bit more recent in the English version than I had 161 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: always assumed. But reportedly it has French origins. Is that correct? 162 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: That is correct? And it's meant to build anticipation for 163 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: Christmas Day. Uh, not so much in a retail way, 164 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: but in more of a religious way, because the Christmas 165 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: season lasts all the way up until Epiphany on January six, 166 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: and that's the day that most Christians actually associate with 167 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: the birth uh and specifically baptism of Jesus. And uh, 168 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: the whole gift exchange wasn't really as big of a 169 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: thing as it is today. Um, but yeah, that was 170 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: when you would you would actually tend to exchange gifts 171 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: on Epiphany, not on December given away on January six. Now, Uh, 172 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: this is this is public to me. They're numerous uh 173 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: different interpretations of this song. Casey, could you, in the 174 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: in the spirit of late Christmas, which is what I 175 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: am dubbing our our holiday here, could you give us 176 00:10:53,080 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: a little taste On the first day of chrissm Troo 177 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: Love said to me apartrogen a pear tree. On the 178 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: second day of Christmas, my true love said to me 179 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: two turtle doves and a part rege and a pear 180 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: tree on the third day of next Up. No, no, 181 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: I know that you and I are fans of musicals, Casey, 182 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: are you a fan of of music musicals? It depends, 183 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: It really really depends. I could not say yes as 184 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: a overall category, but there are exceptions. Okay, So basically, 185 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: if it's not, if it's not Little Chapa Horrors, forget 186 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, more or less. Know. I mean, there's 187 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: there's some great stuff, but you know, just something about Yeah, 188 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: it's just not my thing. It's I don't go deep 189 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: without genre. Yeah, that's just cats right, that's your favorite. Well, 190 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: I am kind of excited to see cats Man the 191 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: Early River though. Boy the reviews that I want to 192 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: see it before they fix it. I want to see 193 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: all the like rendering errors and like, you know the 194 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: where they like didn't mix it right, that's right, it's 195 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: pretty wild. Um. Yeah. No, I'm a bit of a 196 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: musical nerd um, not like encyclopedically so, but I'm definitely 197 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: a fan and I am not aware of the musical 198 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: Meet me in St. Louis from four starring Judy Garland. Uh, 199 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: and that is where the song have Yourself a Merry 200 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: Little Christmas became a very special and important Christmas song. 201 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: Have yourselfs Oh, merry Little Christmas makes you tide good 202 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: troubles miles away. And I am a huge fan of 203 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: that song. I actually I think it's quite charming and 204 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: very sweet. Yeah, it's sweet. It's way better than babe 205 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 1: it's cold outside. Uh. So you're right. This was introduced 206 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: in nineteen forty four, but Christopher argues that it became 207 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: more famous or more canonical, at least thanks to the 208 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty seven cover by Frank Sinatra. And there's a 209 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: line in there about making the Yule Tide gay, as 210 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: many of our listeners already know, doubtlessly, gay in this 211 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: sense is in its original sense a synonym for happy 212 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: or cheerful. But where does Yule Tide come from? Yeah, 213 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: it's like the Yule log, you know, like the it's 214 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: it's a an ancient Germanic festival, more of a pagan 215 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: thing that would have been held in midwinter. Um called Yule, 216 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: and tide is an Old English word for a season, 217 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: which makes sense turning tides, you know, But that's also 218 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: refers to tide in the ocean, which are tied to 219 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: the moon, which tied to the season, you know, like 220 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: changing of the season, and then tied plus tied the 221 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: hominem's they abound. I also makes me wonder about words 222 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: such as even tide, which it was maybe a different thing. 223 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: Here's here's another one. What does it mean to troll? 224 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: The ancient Yule tide Carol? That's one of the lines 225 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: carol ers sing when they get through deck the hallsn 226 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: we now are la la la la, la la la, 227 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: the ancient attack Carol, La la la la la attack it. 228 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a guess, troll. I bet it's almost 229 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: like skipping the light fantastic, you know what I mean? 230 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: Like tripping the light fantastic a sort of to you know, 231 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: troll that you know, like to give it your all, 232 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: to like really lean into it and and give it 233 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: a boisterous performance kind of you know, you're I like 234 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: where your head's at. You're on the right path there 235 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: because according to the o E Ed, troll has numerous meetings. 236 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: One of them is to sing in a happy and 237 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: care free way. So you kind of got it there 238 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: right there are older meanings like moving around in a 239 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: circular way, or singing songs that kind of row row 240 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: row your boat around, yeah, around, So you could do 241 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: that with deck dolls. Yeah, and how about this back 242 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: to some old English traditions. The melody of deck the 243 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: Halls is actually originally from a Welsh song, a traditional 244 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: Welsh song called nos Galan or New Year's Eve, and 245 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: that's back from the early seventeen hundreds. It was as 246 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: many of these types of songs were a drinking song. 247 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: And that's where we get the original line um that 248 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: was changed to dawn we now are gay apparel, which 249 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: as we know, means put on our happy clothes, are 250 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: Christmas sweaters and such. In the original it was Phil 251 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: the mead cup drained the barrel. Alright, Yeah, a little more, 252 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: a little harder on the paint, right. And what's fascinating, 253 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: even from a folkloric perspective, is the way we see 254 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: these songs evolve over time with different lyrics, different interpretations, 255 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: and sometimes entire melodies lifted and an entire set of 256 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: different lyrics put on them. Sometimes they change the meaning. 257 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: There's a song that I have a soft spot in 258 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: my heart for called It's beginning to look a lot 259 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: like Christmas, which talks about a town transforming, a pair 260 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: of hop along books, an epistle that chooses the worst 261 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: Shibani and Ben Doll. It'll talk a little gol for 262 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: a walk because the hope for Jennison gen hard And 263 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: it's an anticipatory song. It's meant to build excitement, sort 264 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: of the same way the Twelve Days of Christmas is 265 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: in this song. You know, people put up decorations, they're 266 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: getting a better mood. Kids start to think about the 267 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: presence they would like, and they name presents like a 268 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: pair of hop along boots and a pistol that shoots, 269 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: and then dolls that will talk and so on. So 270 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: we get it, toy, pistol dolls. But what exactly are 271 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: hop along boots? Have you ever had a pair of 272 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: hop along boots? Anybody? No? It would have been like 273 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: hop Along Cassidy, the famous Western cowboy, the actor Bill Cassidy, Right, Yeah, 274 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: popular character Bill Cassidy. So it's beginning to look a 275 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: lot like Christmas comes out in Bill Cassidy. Is this 276 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: He's the cowboy who drinks sasaparilla. He made that famous 277 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: Sioux City Sasaparilla. Perhaps Uh he had a weird walk 278 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: because he got shot in the leg in the course 279 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: of his adventures, and p gave him the nickname hop 280 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: Along And so since he had this nickname hop Along 281 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: from his storied career. Of course, whenever you do a 282 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,719 Speaker 1: show that children love, it's all about the moychandizing. Right, 283 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: that's a Spaceball's reference. So around the time that it's 284 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: beginning to look a lot like Christmas drops. In nineteen 285 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: fifty one, hop Along Cassidy boots were a popular child's 286 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: item or toy. You know. They were like the air 287 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: Jordan's for the kiddies, uh where they were like uh 288 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: you know, they weren't on the level of a Tickle 289 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: Me Elmo, but they were still very very popular. Yeah, 290 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: it's true, um, and that you can actually find some 291 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: branding behind it online. Uh. Just hop Along Cassidy acme 292 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: cowboy boots. Here's your pal, hop Along Cassidy and his 293 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: brand new cowboy boots. And they're sort of kids size. 294 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: He's holding them like with two fingers, like they're very tiny. Um, 295 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: you can still buy some in the style. It's uh, 296 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: it's a pretty traditional shorter cowboy boot with kind of 297 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: like in lave eagle looking things on the front and 298 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: the back stitched in. Pretty pretty cool actually. So the 299 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: next tune, or the next concept, I should say, is 300 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: one that I actually learned about a little while ago, 301 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: but I I still think is pretty weird. So most 302 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: of our popular Christmas songs here in the States come from, 303 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: you know, the mid twentieth century, nineteen fifties or so. 304 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: And that's because the concept of Christmas could be uniformly 305 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: impressed upon the audience, or they come from Northern Europe 306 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: in the seventeen hundreds and eighteen hundreds. There is a 307 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: song called here We Come a wasstling that's still around. 308 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: If you're you are you familiar with this one? Watle 309 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: was like a drink, right, yeah, yeah, you've got it. Yeah. 310 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: And then a wastling was also just a caroling while 311 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: drinking said drink, I imagine um? Or is it just 312 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: drinking in public? Is that what wastling is? I think 313 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: the would go, that's that's a crime. Uh, let's let's 314 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: look at both parts of those questions. So the wasstle 315 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: itself is an alcoholic beverage. It served hot like muld cider, 316 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: punch or for some reprobates nog, and it comes from 317 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: an Old English term that means be well, apparently washstling itself, 318 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: as the tradition involves a band of singers or carolers 319 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: going door to door in their neighborhood and they're singing 320 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: Christmas songs and they're offering their audience the home dwellers 321 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: drinks from a huge bucket of wasstle they'd carry with them. 322 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: But it was a transaction. It wasn't just a free 323 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: song and a drink. What you like, gather people up 324 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: right and they take them along with you. Isn't that 325 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: a thing? I believe so definitely the knocking people's door 326 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: and then when they come out you like that you 327 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: invite them to join you. Kind of that sounds like 328 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: a lot of fun, I know. At the very least homeowners, 329 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: after they would listen to the song and have a 330 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: drink of this booze, they would have to give the 331 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: sailors the whostlers some stuff, right, interesting quid pro quo. 332 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: It's almost like more of a tricker treat situation, really, 333 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: very much so. And this is all reflected on the 334 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: lyrics do we wish you a Merry Christmas when the 335 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: carollers demand some figgy pudding and we won't go until 336 00:21:51,800 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: we get some cup What is figgy pudding? Figgy pudding 337 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: is almost like a pound cake kind of or it's 338 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: like one of those circle cakes, you know, like with 339 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: a hole in the middle. Um, it's dense. Uh. It 340 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: has figs chopped densely, you know. Buttermilk. Um sort of 341 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: almost like a whole wheat flour situation. Um, nutmeg, cinnamon, 342 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: that's basically a sugar. Okay, it looks pretty good. You're 343 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: like a fig Yeah, yeah, yeah, I make the I 344 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: make a pretty mean brion crew with a nice fig 345 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: Is it like a briefe like a cheese thing baked brize? Uh, 346 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: that's weird. Okay, So now I know what figgy pudding is. 347 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: What's our what's our next song on the list? Mr? Brown? Well, 348 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: I'll tell you my friend. Next on the list? We 349 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 1: have Uh, it's the most wonderful time of the year. Um. 350 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: And the concept of telling ghost stories on Christmas, which is, 351 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: you know, to a modern audience, might seem a little off. 352 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: There's a line in we Wish You a Merry Christmas. Uh, 353 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: they'll be scary ghost stories and tales of the glories 354 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: of Christmas is long long ago. Scary ghost stories at 355 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: Christmas get out of here be parties for hosting marshpellas 356 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: for toasting and caroling out in the snow, there'll be 357 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: scary ghost stories and tales of the glories of Christmas 358 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: is long long ago. Yeah, it is weird, right because 359 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: we think of ghost stories as more of a Howoween 360 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: tradition or maybe when you're out camping somewhere. But it 361 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: turns out that telling ghost stories during Christmas time is 362 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: an old English tradition that was completely normal and unremarkable 363 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: for people during the Victorian era, at least according to 364 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: the Paris Review, the Smithsonian, and other sources. And if 365 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: you think about it, it makes sense because you're in 366 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: like the dark of winter, you and your family and 367 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: friends are hanging out. There's no television, there's no radio, 368 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:23,479 Speaker 1: there's no speed walking competition, so you're left to your 369 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: own devices and tell each other engaging spooky stories. And 370 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: you know, when you think about it, a Christmas Carol 371 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: by Charles Dickens is very much a ghost story of 372 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: it is. It gets downright spooky at times. Have you 373 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: ever seen the Mickey Mouse Christmas Carol? Yes, yes, I have. Yeah. Yeah, 374 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: the big scary dog guy whose name I'm forgetting now 375 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: he no, no, he's like Goofy's nemesis. He plays he 376 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: plays the death figure, you know, the ghost of Christmas Future. 377 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: That's correct, the evil. Yeah. He's like a like a 378 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: scythe carrying uh death and he's smoking a cigar and 379 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: he's very he's very intimidating. I remember being kind of 380 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: spooked by that movie. Um, I of course very much 381 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: enjoy uh the Bill Murray film Scrooged. Yeah, that's my rewatch. 382 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: I love sco It's a nice marriage of Halloween and Christmas. 383 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: For halloween er such as myself, I also enjoyed Nightmare 384 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: Before Christmas. There's a great great comedy show here in 385 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: our fair metropolis of Atlanta called Invasion Christmas Carol, put 386 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: on by one of my improv Alma Moters, which is 387 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: Dad's garage out there just down the street from us. 388 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: And they do uh comedic take on a Christmas Carol. 389 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: But here's there, here's their stick, and I swear to 390 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: god it works every show they do. Each time they 391 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: do this show, they have someone come in as an 392 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: unannounced character and purposefully try to wreck the show, purposely 393 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: try to wreck the story and just like distract people 394 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: and just raise havoc. No like insert themselves into the 395 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: story as themselves though no, it's different character whoever they want. 396 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: Like like the last night before recorded this, h Thomas 397 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: the Tank Engine was one of the characters and he 398 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: was terrifying because they did. He came in as you 399 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: went a tank. No, no, no, I know the guy 400 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: was doing it. He was picturing. He was showing me 401 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: the costume and it's it's like the costume is too 402 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: big to get through the podcast doors. I find Thomas 403 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: the Tank a little bit menacing honestly. Oh yeah, Charlie 404 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: the Chucco as well, you know what I mean, Charlie 405 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: the Cucco is an off brand Thomas the Tank. I 406 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 1: think maybe I'm thinking of this Stephen King. Charlie, Uh, 407 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: it's a it's a different thing. Okay, god it you 408 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: may have just made it up. And no, no, no, 409 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: no oh, I'm thinking of blame the motto as well. 410 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: No anthropomorphized locomotives in general, I don't want to pay 411 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: one too broad of a brush, but in general, I 412 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: don't care for them. You're right, Charlie. The Cucci was 413 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: a children's book by Stephen King, the very menacing cover. Yes, 414 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: it looks like a book, is it not. It's a 415 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: children's book that occurs. Oh no, it's not by Stephen King. 416 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: It has a review at the top by Stephen King. 417 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: It's by Beryl Evans, but it's mentioned in his Dark 418 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: Tower series. Interesting in a in a menacing way. It 419 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: is by Stephen King. You put it out under a pseudonym, 420 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: had he had to make a new one after Bachman 421 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:31,719 Speaker 1: got burnt. Casey on the case. Huh our second Stephen 422 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: King reference in as many episodes from the world of 423 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: the Dark Tower. But it appears to be a children's book. 424 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: I like this, but I'm not aware. So we have 425 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: one more story because we are, of course in rush 426 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: to get our last pieces of business done to ring 427 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: in the new year. And and it's been a great 428 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: year so far, you know, I give it overall. I 429 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: think we've we've had a good time, but we're ready 430 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: for what is our last Christmas song? What is the 431 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: last song we talked about today? Last Christmas? Yes, that 432 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: is my favorite Christmas song of all time. Oh, I 433 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: love that. Can we get a little taste Christmas? Oh yeah, smooth, 434 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: smooth as ever. I don't know if this is true, 435 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: but I remember on that show Clarissa explains it all. 436 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: She was really into George Michael and she says his 437 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: real name, and it's apparently Georgio Pantio two. Yep, uh, 438 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: Georgios Chicos. Yeah nice? Great? Is that Greek? Sounds very cristy? Yeah, 439 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: it was his His father was a Greek restaurant tour 440 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: And of course the uh. This song, which is a 441 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: personal favoritist from Friends of Mine, is still not as 442 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: popular as All I Want for Christmas by Mariah Carey, 443 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: which is the the juggernaut of the season. It just 444 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: hit number one after like decades. It's the uh, I think, 445 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: the second most delayed number one Billboard hit UH, and 446 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: it's never gonna beat the first one because it was 447 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: Vera Lynn, who was a famous UM singer English singer 448 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: UM and she was like in her nineties when this 449 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: song hit number one. So what is the last song 450 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: for today's show? Winter Wonderland from nineteen hundred and thirty four, Well, 451 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: in the meadow we can build a Snowman and pretended 452 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: he is possible round. He'll say, oh, you're married, Wilson. 453 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: No man, but you can do the job when you're 454 00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: on town. That paints a lovely went here a scene 455 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: with two lovers strolling down the lane, gentle snowfall in 456 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: the meadow. We can we can build a snowman and 457 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: pretend that he is Parson Brown. Who's Parson Brown? Yeah, casey, 458 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: give me a record scratch. Who's this Parson Brown guy? 459 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: I always thought it was Carson Brown. That's just some 460 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: dude they know who hates snowman. They need to mock him, yeah, 461 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: or love snowman, and they need to build a monument 462 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: to him. So parson is a title, it's not a 463 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: first name. I thought it was like a famous person 464 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: or something. So this is this is news to me. 465 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: I'm into this. Give it to me. Oh, he's just 466 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: he's a parson, someone who has the ability to marry people. 467 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: A parson is a physician in Christian clergy, like Thomas Blood. 468 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: So he's there just as they're trying to make the 469 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: snowman into a clergyman so that he can marry them 470 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: on the spot. Yeah, there super into each other, and 471 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: this winter Wonderland is more than they can handle. And 472 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: one note here for snowman chronology. Snowman themselves, for a 473 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: long time had buttons who nose. Carrot noses are a 474 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: new thing, and if you think about it, there are 475 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: a thing that comes from a time of plenty, because 476 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: usually if someone had a carrot, they would just eat it. 477 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: Frosty the Snowman had a corn cob pipe and a 478 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: button nose and two eyes, I mean had a coal 479 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: dead eyes like a doll's eyes or you know what 480 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: I mean. You know what I'm gonna say, Oh, what's 481 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: the what's his name? Give it to him a really 482 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: remind me of it? Is? Is it Scarlett Johansson? No? No, 483 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: yes it is No someone you always say has dead eyes? 484 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: Who is it? And I'm like, you know, why did 485 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: you get did you get on notice? Did you get 486 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: put on notice? No? I'm just in you know, I 487 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: in the spirit of christopherm Us. I'm gonna I'm gonna 488 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: remain positive, you know, So Happy holidays to everyone with 489 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: live eyes and dead eyes alike. What I say, this 490 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: nog has given me weird hand sweats by boys. I 491 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: got the knock sweats. Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh, this this 492 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: has been a brief look into Carol's This is just 493 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: a again a very brief, very brief dive into some 494 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: of these. But we hope that you, like us, have 495 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: found some things that you didn't know about some of 496 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: your favorite seasonal songs. Also, I'm curious, are you someone 497 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: who loves or hates Christmas music? The Internet is such 498 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: a divisive place that every year I don't see anybody 499 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: who has like a mild take on Christmas songs. I 500 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: don't see anybody just lets the waves wash over them. 501 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: I see people who love love love them, or hate 502 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: hate hate them. So what are you let us know? 503 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: Let us know what your favorite Christmas songs are, or 504 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: your favorite holiday songs. We should say holiday, because these 505 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: don't all have to be you know, Christmas carols or whatever. 506 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: We also want to hear some of your least favorite 507 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: and I am going to I'm gonna shout out a 508 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: very very strange song from the cognitive hinterlands of country music, 509 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: which is maybe familiar to some of us listening. It 510 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: is Santa's Coming in a worly Bird. Have you guys 511 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: ever heard of this? I don't believe so no A 512 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: worly bird at the time was slang for a helicopter. 513 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: I'm just you know, you can look it up yourself. 514 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if we have the rights to play it. 515 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: The boy, it's a weird way. Thank you as always 516 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: to Christopher hasiotis uh the namesake of Christopher Us and 517 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: the Christopher mass Spirit. Thanks, of course the super producer 518 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: Casey Pegram. Big thanks to Alex Williams for the nog 519 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: and for the tunes for this beautiful song that you're 520 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: hearing right now, which kind of has a Christmas Eve 521 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: vibe to it in a weird way. Maybe I'm just 522 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: contextualizing them because I'm getting into spirit. This is my 523 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: last day at the office for a little minute, and 524 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: I'm very pleased uh about that fact. Huge thanks to 525 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: Gabe our research associates, uh Eve's Jeff Coats check her 526 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: out on this day in history class and Afro punk 527 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: solution sessions. Yes yeah yeah, And also huge Christopher miss 528 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:20,919 Speaker 1: thanks to Jonathan Strickland a k a. The Ridiculous Grin, 529 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: Charion a k a. Young Quizzles a k a. The Quizter. 530 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: We hope that you have a fantastic twenty We can't 531 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: wait to see what adventures you have and uh, what 532 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: wonders await you? What's al For more podcasts from my 533 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: heart Radio, visit the I heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, 534 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.