1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Welcome in his verdict with Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: you as always, and these were some big stories that 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: you may have missed that we talked about this week. 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: First up, Sendor Cruz questioned the acting Director of the 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: Secret Service about the lack of protection for Donald Trump 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: after the first assassination attempt. Well, his answers are even 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: more shocking after the second assassination attempt on Donald Trump. 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: We're going to break that down for you. 9 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: Also, Donald Trump had his campaign hacked by Iran. What 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: did they do with the hacked information? They gave it 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: to the Biden Harris campaign and also members of the media. 12 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: Now they say, well, don't blame us, we didn't write 13 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: them back. But did they use the information that was hacked. 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: We'll describe those details in a moment as well. And 15 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: finally Democrats come out showing their true colors in a 16 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: disgusting move. This week, King ivf legislation that was brought 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: by Senator Cruz. It's the weekend review and it starts 18 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: right now. 19 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 3: The acting Director of the Secret Service testified before the 20 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: Senate Judiciary Committee, and I questioned him, and you know 21 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 3: what striking is is just about every single question I 22 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 3: asked him two months ago remains entirely salient today and 23 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 3: even more so now that this has happened twice. So 24 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 3: I want to go back and let's listen again to 25 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 3: that cross examination. This is the acting director of the 26 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: Secret Service, shortly after the first assassination attempt on President 27 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 3: Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania. 28 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 2: Mister Row, thank you for being here. 29 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 3: I agree with what you said at the outset that 30 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: the individual Secret Service agents demonstrated remarkable personal courage putting 31 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 3: their bodies in between the line of sight of the 32 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 3: shooter and the president. That being said, the bravery of 33 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: the line agents is quite different from the decisions of 34 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: Secret Service leadership. Secret Service leadership committed catastrophic security failures, 35 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 3: indeed the worst security failures for the Secret Service since 36 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: nineteen eighty one, since the attempted assassination of President Ronald Reagan. 37 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 3: It is incumbent upon this committee to determine why those 38 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 3: security failures happened. Just after the shooting, Secret Service put 39 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 3: out an official statement from your spokesperson that says there's 40 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,119 Speaker 3: an untrue assertion that a member of the former president's 41 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 3: team requested additional security resources, that those were rebuffed, This 42 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: is absolutely false. 43 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: In fact, we. 44 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 3: Added protective resources and technology and capabilities as part of 45 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: the increased campaign travel tempo. 46 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 4: Was this tweet accurate with respect to Butler, Pennsylvania? It 47 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 4: is accurate, sir. 48 00:02:55,200 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: It is accurate that the Trump team had not asked 49 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: for additional security and had not been rebuffed. 50 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 4: If you're talking about Butler, Pennsylvania, all assets requested were approved. 51 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 4: If you're talking about the media reporting of assets requested, 52 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 4: there were times when assets were unavailable and not able 53 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 4: to be filled, and those gaps were staffed with state 54 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 4: and local law enforcement tactical assets. 55 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: So I'm reading from the Washington Post July twentieth, twenty 56 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: twenty four, Secret Service said to a denied request for 57 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 3: more security at Trump events. The opening paragraph, top officials 58 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: of the US Secret Service repeatedly denied requests for additional 59 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: resources and personnel sought by Donald Trump's security detail in 60 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: the two years leading up to his attempted assassination, according 61 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 3: to four people familiar with the requests. Is that right 62 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 3: that repeatedly the Trump detail asked for more resources and 63 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 3: repeatedly Secret Service leadership turned that down. 64 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 4: That is not accurate, Senator, assets are requested. There's a 65 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 4: process that has made How. 66 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 3: Many requests did the Trump team or the Trump Detail 67 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: ask for? 68 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 4: I can get you that number in a. 69 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: Que You don't. You don't know, no, So I. 70 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 4: Can speak to the ones that reported in the Washington 71 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 4: Post and we can go through them if you like. 72 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: But you don't know how how many requests there were 73 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 2: in general? 74 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 4: How many requests since twenty twenty one that the former 75 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 4: Trump detail has made a requests for asking. 76 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 3: You've had two weeks you had a spokesperson put something 77 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 3: out that is false on its face. By the way, 78 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 3: did you approve this statement when it went out? 79 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 4: I don't know if I did or didn't. 80 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 2: Say. 81 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 3: Has this spokesperson is he still employed? Does he still 82 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 3: have still so he lied on behalf of the Secret Service? 83 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 2: He still has a job. 84 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 3: Did your predecessor, the former director, does she approve the statement? 85 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 4: Senator? Our comms team they send out statements, they do 86 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 4: deconflict them, and they put them out. Did she approve 87 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 4: this statement? I don't know if she did or did not, And. 88 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: You don't know if you did either. 89 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 4: I don't recall approving it. 90 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 3: Senator, Will you commit to provide this committee writing every 91 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 3: written request for additional resources from the Trump campaign or 92 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 3: the Trump Detail, and every response from Secret Service. 93 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 4: Senator, I will commit to providing responses and getting you 94 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 4: the information that you are seeking. 95 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: Me ask you something, and who makes the decision to 96 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 3: those requests? 97 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 2: Did you make that decision? 98 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 4: Which requests are you talking about the ones that writ 99 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 4: in the post? 100 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 2: Yes? 101 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 4: The processor is that a detail will make a request 102 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 4: for either staffing technical assets. That is handled between the 103 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 4: field office and the detail. It goes up to a 104 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 4: logistics office between Okay. 105 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 2: So there's a bureaucracy. Is there a decision maker? 106 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: It's not a bureaucracy, Senator, it's the person that's the 107 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 3: decision maker. 108 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 4: Is there one, Senator, it's a conversation. It's not just 109 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 4: an absolute yet. So let me tell you what I believe. 110 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 3: I believe that the Secret Service leadership made a political 111 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 3: decision to deny these requests, and I think the Biden 112 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 3: administration has been suffused with partisan politics. Did the same 113 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 3: person who denied the request for additional security to President 114 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 3: Trump also repeatedly deny the request for security to Robert F. 115 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 3: Kennedy Junior, whose father was murdered by an assassin and 116 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 3: whose uncle was murdered by an assassin. Did the same 117 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 3: person make that decision? 118 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 4: Senator? What I will tell you is that Secret Service 119 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 4: agents are not political. 120 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 3: Okay, you're not answering, but you know what leader by 121 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 3: the president. 122 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 2: Le come appointed by the president is political. I have 123 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 2: a simple question, yes or no. 124 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 3: Did the same person deny the Trump requests that also 125 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: denied the RFK request. 126 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 2: That's a yes or no. 127 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 4: Question, Senator. That is not a yes or no question. One. 128 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 4: There is a process for a candidate nominee to receive protection. 129 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 3: Is there a by Cameron does a bike stole body? 130 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 4: Artisan process? 131 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 3: That they say by cameral bipartisan process? 132 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 4: What can candidate or not? 133 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 2: Congress? Don't a camera? 134 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 4: Mister Kennedy submitted a request that was referred over to 135 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 4: the Sea Pack. 136 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 3: Okay, you're refusing to answer the question. Let me ask 137 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: because because the failures on that day were catastrophic. By 138 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 3: the way, is it true that on the day of 139 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 3: the of the Butler event that Secret Service transferred agent 140 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 3: for President Trump to the first lady. 141 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,239 Speaker 4: No, sir, that's not true. 142 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: That's been widely reported. 143 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,679 Speaker 4: It's not true. There was one airport agent that actually 144 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 4: went on the MAMPI request for the Trump detail. They 145 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 4: handled the arrival at the airport. 146 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 3: What is the relative what was the relative size of 147 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 3: the Trump detail compared to the detail that is assigned 148 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: to the president of the first Lady. 149 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 4: Senator, the former president travels with a full shift just 150 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 4: like the president. 151 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 3: What's the red so the exact same size. Is that 152 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 3: your testimony that the President Trump had the same size 153 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 3: detail that President Biden has. 154 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 4: On the day of in Butler, the agent surrounding him. 155 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 4: It is the same number of agents surrounding the president today. 156 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 4: There is a difference between the sitting president who also 157 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 4: not only and. 158 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: You're using president that is not clear. 159 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: Is it your testimony that in Butler, Pennsylvania, Donald Trump 160 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 3: had the same number of agents protecting him that Joe 161 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,559 Speaker 3: Biden has at a comparable event. 162 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 4: I'm telling you the shift, the close protection shift surrounded Yes, 163 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 4: or you asked me, Senator, and I'm trying to answer it. 164 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: You are not answering it. Is it the same number 165 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 2: of agents or not? 166 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 4: Senator? There is a difference between the sitting president of 167 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 4: the United States. 168 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: And what's the difference the difference two x. 169 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 4: Three x five Acational command authority to launch a nuclear strike. 170 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: I'm not over assets. How many more will the president? 171 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: That's our former president. 172 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 3: You were refusing to answer a number of secret servers. 173 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: Stop interruption, Stop interrupting me, Go ahead. 174 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 3: You are refusing to answer clear and direct questions. I 175 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 3: am asking the relative difference in the number of agents 176 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 3: between those assigned to Donald Trump and those assigned to 177 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 3: Joe Biden. I'm not asking why you assign more to 178 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: Joe Biden. I'm asking is the difference? 179 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 2: Is it two X? Is it three X? Is it 180 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: five X? Is it ten X? 181 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 4: Senator? I will get you that number so you can 182 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 4: see it with your own eyes. 183 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: It's sad, Senator, but this seems now more relevant than 184 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: it was after the first assassination attempt. The lack of answers, 185 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: and by the way, you asked these questions on seven 186 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: point thirty, if I'm not mistaken, so did you ever 187 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: actually get the answers to all the questions where he 188 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: said I will get that for you. 189 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 3: Nothing, nothing whatsoever? He provided absolutely nothing. I asked the 190 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 3: Secret Service in writing. They have not responded to my 191 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: questions in writing. I assume they'll do it sometime within 192 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 3: the next century. But what he said in that hearing, 193 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 3: I will get that information to you. We are sitting 194 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: here in mid September and he has still not gotten it. 195 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 3: And it is a sense of a complete lack of accountability. Now, look, 196 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 3: what they're doing right now is a massive cya. They're 197 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 3: trying to cover their own rear ends. But the problem 198 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 3: is with the senior decision making, and I believe the 199 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 3: partisan politics that has been infused into the senior decision making. 200 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 3: That is why I want to reiterate my call today 201 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 3: the Biden Harris administration should announce that they are assigning 202 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 3: a full presidential Secret Service detail to Donald J. 203 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 2: Trump. 204 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 3: And by the way, let me be clear on a 205 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 3: little a sleight of hand that the acting director tried 206 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 3: to try to pull in that hearing. When I asked, 207 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 3: are the same number of agents assigned or what was 208 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 3: the relative number of agents? He said, oh, the same 209 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 3: number of agents are in the close protective shift. And 210 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 3: he was trying to be really clever there. I think 211 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 3: he thought he was clever. So the close protective shift 212 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 3: are the agents that are assigned immediately on the body 213 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 3: of the protectee. Soume he was accurate that both Biden 214 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 3: and Trump the immediate circle around him is the same 215 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 3: number of agents. What is different is the way the 216 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 3: Secret Service works is in concentric circles perimeters of protection. 217 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 3: So there's a close detail of a number of agents 218 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 3: around the protect teem, but then with a full presidential protection, 219 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 3: there's an intermediate perimeter that they locked down and there's 220 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 3: a broader perimeter. 221 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: The broader perimeter. 222 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 3: Presumably would have caught this sniper on the golf course 223 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 3: who was. 224 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: Trying to assassinate President Trump. 225 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 3: And so the Acting Director was trying to be cute 226 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 3: by saying, well, well, the immediate shift, the close protective 227 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 3: details identical. And look, everyone understands right now that there 228 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 3: are markedly fewer Secret Service agents protecting Donald Trump than 229 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 3: are protecting Joe Biden, which is amazing because as best 230 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 3: I can tell, all Joe Biden was asleep on the 231 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 3: beach in Delaware. But nonetheless we still don't know. And 232 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 3: you know, Ben, there was a reason I did not 233 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 3: ask at that hearing. I didn't ask the acting director 234 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 3: how many agents were assigned to Trump, and the reason 235 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 3: I didn't ask that, and I didn't ask how many 236 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 3: are assigned to Biden? And the reason I didn't is 237 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 3: he would have reasonably declined to answer that that that 238 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 3: giving that information could compromise the security that protect Tee. 239 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 3: So I can tell you in my written questions, I 240 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 3: have asked that specific question, how many agents give me 241 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 3: the number? And I've said that answer can be given 242 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 3: as law enforcement confidential, so that it will not be 243 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 3: made public because that shouldn't be made public. There's there's 244 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 3: some details about security that should not be in the 245 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 3: public domain. That's why I asked the question. I did 246 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 3: give me the relative order of magnitude? Is it twice 247 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 3: as many? 248 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: Is it three X? Is it five X? Is it ten? 249 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 3: And he adamantly refused to answer that question, and to 250 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 3: this day he has not answered. 251 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 2: That question sooner. 252 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: Finally, I want to just talk about the media coverage 253 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: of this second assassination attempt, and I can't even believe 254 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: that it's gotten to this point. In fact, let's just 255 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: look over the last like three days. This morning on 256 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: Jensaki Show on MSNBC, you had a congresswoman that said, quote, 257 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: Trump is the guy that stokes domestic terrorism. The problem 258 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: isn't the people coming in but this guy. You then 259 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: add MSNBC's Alex Witt argue, quote, the Trump campaign needs 260 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: to turn down the rhetoric now that Donald Trump has 261 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: been shot at for the second time in three months, 262 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: blaming Donald Trump for this. There's another example, and that's 263 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: not enough for you. You also had people on TV referring 264 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: to Donald Trump and implying that he was, you know, 265 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 1: basically kind of like Hitler. And so this MSNBC guests said, quote, 266 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is exactly like Hitler. Just quote it like 267 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be quoted. This is the rhetoric that's 268 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: on TV right now. And they even say today, well, 269 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: maybe Donald Trump needs to stop playing golf outside for 270 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: a while. Somehow, I'm plying, what's his fault, He's exposing 271 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: himself to assassins. 272 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 3: Well, we are, unfortunately in a horribly divided time. But 273 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 3: I do think that that that personal rhetoric, the demonization 274 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 3: of the left, but by the left of Donald Trump, 275 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 3: has reached a level that that that we'd never seen before. 276 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 3: And I think that kind of vicious rhetoric. It it 277 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 3: bears fruit. People listen to the rhetoric when they hear 278 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 3: people people describe him as another Hitler. Unfortunately, it increases 279 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 3: the chances that some lunatic is going. 280 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 2: To act on that. 281 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: And and listen, I want to close this this podcast 282 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 3: the way we opened by by giving thanks to God, 283 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 3: giving thanks that that God protected Donald Trump. 284 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 2: Uh. 285 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 3: I talked with you at in Milwaukee and at the 286 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 3: at the Republican Convention. How I visited with Trump right 287 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 3: right after the the shooting. And Butler, yeah, and and 288 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 3: and he he said to me there very quietly and 289 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: in in he just said, God saved me for a reason. 290 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 3: And and there was there was a quiet introspection about 291 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 3: it that I would say is not typical of how 292 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 3: President Trump behaves. And I think for the second time 293 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 3: in just over two months, Uh, president Trump has been protected. 294 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 3: I am grateful for for that protection. I'm grateful for him, 295 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 3: but I'm also grateful for the country. 296 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: Uh. 297 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 3: To to have a presidential election decided by an assassin, 298 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 3: decided by murder is the ultimate affront to democracy. It 299 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 3: is and it is an attack at the very essence 300 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: of our constitution and the rule of law and the 301 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: sovereignty of the We we the people to choose our leaders. 302 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 3: And and so you know, today I'm just I'm grateful 303 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 3: for God's protection on President Trump. And let me be clear, 304 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 3: I'm grateful for God's protection on Joe Biden and Kamala 305 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 3: Harris and and on our leaders in both parties. You 306 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: and I are both Christians, and the Bible commands us 307 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 3: to pray for our leaders, and so I pray for 308 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 3: our leaders, even even if I disagree with them strongly. 309 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 3: I'm grateful for that protection. And I'm grateful for God's 310 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 3: protection over our nation. This is a time, especially when 311 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 3: when when we need to be one nation under God. 312 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, 313 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: you can go back and listen to the full podcast 314 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: from earlier this week now understory number two. Finally, I 315 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: want to move to another story, and it deals with 316 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: the Trump campaign and the Iranian hack of the Trump campaign. 317 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: We already knew that the Iranians had hacked the Trump 318 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: campaign and stole a variety of materials, but now the 319 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: FBI has announced that the Iranian hackers stole information from 320 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: the Trump campaign and send it to people with Joe 321 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: Biden's campaign. We also know that they also sent the 322 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: information to journalists, and the alibis of what people did 323 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: with this information are hysterical. This from CNN covering their 324 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: ABS's listen. 325 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 5: There's new information into CNN on foreign efforts to interfere 326 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 5: to try to interfere with the US election. Federal law 327 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 5: enforcement officials now say Arian hackers not only stole information 328 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 5: from Donald Trump's presidential campaign over the summer, but also 329 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 5: now adding that they sent it unsolicited to people associated 330 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 5: with the Biden campaign. Law enforcement saying there's no indication 331 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 5: the Biden team ever did anything with the information. That detail, though, 332 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 5: did not stop Donald Trump from leaning on conspiracy without evidence. 333 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: It's amazing, right, Well, we didn't we didn't respond to Iran. 334 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: So we're good. We didn't share the information. Well, if 335 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: you read it, you know what it said, it's gonna 336 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to use it. This is such 337 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: an amazing word salad of like, hey, we'll say we 338 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 1: didn't respond. Well, anyone that gets us out assume would 339 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: know not to respond to Iran, and by the way, 340 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: they would know not to forward it to anybody else. 341 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,479 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean that you didn't take the material and use 342 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: it to your advantage. 343 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 3: And look at how CNN ended that little segment where 344 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 3: they attacked Trump for they say, pointing to conspiracy without evidence. Now, 345 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 3: no that's there's a technical word for that. That's called 346 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 3: a lie. Here's the evidence. This was released from the 347 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 3: federal government. As we know, the Iranians hacked Donald Trump. 348 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 3: That's there's evidence of that. That is a fact. There's 349 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 3: hard evidence of that. We know the Iranians then took 350 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: the stolen materials and forwarded it to the Biden campaign. 351 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 3: There's hard evidence of that. And yet what does CNN 352 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 3: say It's conspiracy without evidence. That is an utter lie. 353 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 3: Let me read from ABC. Quote. The FBI and other 354 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: US intelligence agencies released findings that the Iranian hackers have 355 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 3: continued efforts to influence the twenty twenty four presidential election, 356 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 3: with stolen information from former President Donald Trump's campaign being 357 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 3: sent to individuals associated with President Joe Biden's campaign before 358 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 3: he left the race. 359 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 2: Quote. 360 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 3: Iranian militious cyber actors in late June and early July 361 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 3: sent unsolicited emails to individuals then associated with President Biden's 362 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 3: campaign that contained an excerpt from stolen non public material 363 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 3: from former President Trump's campaign as text in the emails. 364 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 3: US intelligence agency said in the statement Wednesday, quote, there 365 00:19:55,119 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 3: is currently no information indicating those recipients applied, so that's 366 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 3: their attempt to defend the Biden administration. They didn't reply. 367 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 3: You know what they haven't said, did the Biden administration? 368 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 3: Did the Biden campaign read the emails? Did they learn 369 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 3: anything that was politically useful in the emails? Did they 370 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 3: call up their friends in the media and leak the 371 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 3: information that was in the emails to their friends in 372 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 3: the media. Did the media then publish the information in 373 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 3: the emails? To mind you, they didn't forward it and 374 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 3: they didn't reply, because they're not complete blithering idiots. 375 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 2: But did they read it? Did they use it? 376 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 3: We don't have an answer to that, and I'm not 377 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 3: aware of any reporters asking that question. They're just saying, well, 378 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 3: they didn't reply, so it's all good. Look Caroline Levitt, 379 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 3: who's the Trump campaign's press secretary, here's what she said, 380 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 3: quote Kamalin Biden must come clean on whether they used 381 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 3: the hacked materials given to them by the Iranians to 382 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 3: hurt President Trump. What did they know and when did 383 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 3: they know it? That is a very good question. Is 384 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 3: their any journalist in the country willing to ask it? 385 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 3: If there is, I haven't seen it, but this would 386 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 3: be a good opportunity for someone to actually pretend to 387 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 3: be a real journalist. 388 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: I want to ask you one final question about this, 389 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: and that is, Look, when Trump was in office, there 390 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: was maximum pressure put on Iran, sanctions that made Iran 391 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: weak and poor, which meant they were not able to 392 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: sponsor near as much terrorist activity as they are now. 393 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: And under Harris, Iran is extremely rich, extremely strong, and 394 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: more in bolden than ever. That's why they're trying to 395 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: influence the outcome of this selection, because they want a 396 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: Kama Harris administration so they can do whatever the hell 397 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: they want to do in the Middle East and honestly 398 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: around the world. I mean Biden Harris's appeasement campaign with them, 399 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: and they're proxy. He has given them tens of billions 400 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: of dollars and even the sanctions that we have on them, 401 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: apparently we're not enforcing them. And this is the appeasement 402 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: towards Iran has happened. The attacks have resulted in the 403 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: death of US service members. 404 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 3: Look, of course, you know, as you know I've said 405 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 3: many times about this election, the classic question in any 406 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 3: election is are you better off now than you were 407 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 3: four years ago? And I've said tongue in cheek unless 408 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 3: you're a Mexican drug lord. 409 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 2: The answers no. 410 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 3: By the way, if you're a Mexican drug lord, Kamala 411 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 3: Harris and Joe Biden have given you billions of dollars 412 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 3: and frankly, you ought to vote for Kamala Harris. She's 413 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 3: been great. Well, I now need to amend that and say, 414 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 3: unless you're a Mexican drug lord, or unless you're the 415 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 3: Ayatola kameenee, because actually Kamala Harris has given even more 416 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 3: money to Iran's Ayatola than she's given to the Mexican 417 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 3: drug lords. The Mexican drug lords made roughly thirteen billion 418 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 3: dollars from human trafficking courtesy of Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, 419 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 3: and Congressional Democrats. In the last four years, Joe Biden 420 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 3: and Kamala Harris have flowed over one hundred billion dollars 421 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 3: to the Iyatola and to the Mullahs in Iran, even 422 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 3: while Iran's the leading state sponsor of terrorism, Even while 423 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 3: Iran provides ninety percent of the funding to Hamas and 424 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 3: ninety percent of the funding to Hesbela one hundred billion dollars, 425 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 3: no wonder, the Iranian government is hacking Trump's campaign and 426 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 3: giving it to the Biden campaign. They're trying to give 427 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 3: a campaign contribution. And if someone gives you a hundred 428 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 3: billion dollars, you would be motivated to do a campaign contribution. 429 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 3: But you know what, the American people have a right 430 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 3: to be deeply upset about that. 431 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, the media, the question they should ask is this, 432 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 1: what did Kamala know? It's an old question, and when 433 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: did she know it? Don't worry they won't ask her 434 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: that question. 435 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 3: He ran Ben, not just what did Kamala know? What 436 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 3: did her campaign know? Who received the email, who read it, 437 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 3: Who did they show it to? Who else read it? 438 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 3: Who did they give it to? Did they leak any 439 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 3: of the information, did they use any of the information? 440 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 3: Don't give Kamala a bailout of Oh no, no, we 441 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 3: kept her in the dark. She had plausible deniability. If 442 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,959 Speaker 3: her apparatchiics she used it, she's responsible as well. So 443 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 3: it's not just her, it's or the members of her 444 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 3: campaign or the Biden campaign. 445 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: As before, if you want to hear the rest of 446 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: this conversation on this topic, you can go back and 447 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: down the podcasts from earlier this week to hear the 448 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: entire thing. I want to get back to the big 449 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: story number three of the week. You may have missed, Senator, 450 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: there's another really important story, and it's not getting as 451 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: much press as it should. And that's why I think 452 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: many people actually listen to the show because they get 453 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: info like this. You may remember, if you go backwards, 454 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: there was a big fake controversy by virtually every Democratic operative, 455 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: the people running for office, congressmen, senators on the left, 456 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: and it was over IVF. Conservatives have been in favor 457 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: of IVF and protecting IVF for I mean, as long 458 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: as I can remember. My kids are in vitro fertilization kids. 459 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: Without it, I probably wouldn't have kids. And I'm so 460 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: thankful for the technology. And so when this controversy happened 461 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: in Alabama, you teamed up with Katie Britt to say, Okay, 462 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: we're going to put our money where our mouth is 463 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: and make sure that we protect IVF. And there was 464 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: an opportunity to do that in Congress and the Democrats 465 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: stopped it. 466 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 3: Why so, look that this story is incredibly revealing of 467 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 3: everything that's wrong with Washington and how corrupt on a 468 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 3: lot of politics is. 469 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 2: Let's start with IVF. 470 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 3: You and I both strongly and unequivocally support in vitro fertilization. 471 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 3: I think IVF is an incredible medical miracle. It has enabled. 472 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 2: Millions of parents, moms, and dads to have kids that 473 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 2: could otherwise have kids. Two percent of all live births. 474 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 3: In America come from IVF. There are over eight million 475 00:25:54,359 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 3: children born via IVF, including your kids. Yeah, that is 476 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 3: an amazing A very close staffer of mine who is 477 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 3: with me most days, we were talking about this issue 478 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 3: as I was fighting to defend IVF, and he told me, 479 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 3: much to my surprise, he said, you know what, I 480 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 3: was born via IVF. I'm an IVF kid. 481 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: Wow. 482 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 3: Like, that's amazing, and I think IVF is extraordinary. Now, 483 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 3: following a decision of the Alabama Supreme Court concerning IVF, 484 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 3: there was enormous uncertainty. There was enormous fear and enormous 485 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 3: concern that IVF would be in jeopardy to be clear, 486 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 3: in Alabama. When that concern was raised, the state legislature 487 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 3: acted incredibly quickly to pass legislation making clear that IVF 488 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 3: would be protected in Alabama. So, as a real practical matter, 489 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 3: I believe there is zero threat to IVF in America. Why, well, 490 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 3: let's take the US Senate. In the US Senate, there 491 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 3: a one hundred senators. To the best of my knowledge, 492 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 3: all one hundred senators support IVF. I do not know 493 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 3: of a single senator in either party who opposes IVF. 494 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 3: But yet there was genuine concern, there was confusion that 495 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 3: IVF might be in jeopardy. And this is where Democrats 496 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 3: and the corporate media had an intense political interest to 497 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 3: flame that fear and and to encourage that confusion. And 498 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 3: so as that was happening, I saw that I was dismayed. 499 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 3: And I will tell you so. When the Senate's in session, 500 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 3: Republican senators we have lunch every Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday together, 501 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 3: so all the Republican senators together. And Katie brit the 502 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 3: senator from Alabama, has become a good friend. She's been 503 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 3: a guest on this podcast. She stood up at one 504 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 3: lunch and she gave an impassion speech to the other 505 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 3: Republican senators about how important IVF was and how she 506 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 3: was hearing from from women and men, although mostly women, 507 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 3: but parents and would be parents across Alabama who were 508 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 3: incredibly concerned IVF was in jeopardy, and he said. She said, 509 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 3: we've got to protect that. I listened to what she said, 510 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 3: and so I went to her an approach her and said, listen, 511 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 3: U sport IVF ice sport IVF. Let's draft legislation that 512 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 3: puts a clear, unequivocal protection into federal statutory law to 513 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 3: make clear that no state and no local government can 514 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 3: ban IVF. Let's find common grounds. 515 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 2: She agreed. I drafted the legislation, we did it together, 516 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 2: we filed it. 517 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 3: Now, the Democrats want to fearmonger on IVF. So there's 518 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 3: a different bill that they call an IVF bill is 519 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 3: that is introduced by Tammy Duckworth, the very liberal Democrat 520 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 3: for Illinois. The Tammy Duckworth quote IVF bill is not 521 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 3: an IVF bill. It's a radical abortion bill. It would 522 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 3: give the Secretary of HHS Health and Human Services broad 523 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 3: authority to, under that bill protect abortion in a vast 524 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 3: variety of circumstances. 525 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 2: Also, the Duckworth bill. 526 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:09,479 Speaker 3: Explicitly overturns the protections of religious liberty under the Religious 527 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 3: Freedom Restoration Act. I support IVF, but I certainly don't 528 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 3: want to force a physician to participate in IVF if 529 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 3: it's against their religious faith. It's not against my religious faith. 530 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 3: But if it's against theirs, I respect everyone's religious liberty 531 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 3: to decide, Okay, I don't want to personally participate in it. 532 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 3: And yet the Democrats they do want to force, let's 533 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 3: someone to potentially violate their own religious faith to participate 534 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 3: in something that they have moral concerns about. 535 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 2: And so. 536 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 3: Yesterday Chuck Schumer teed up a vote. It's the second 537 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 3: time in a couple of months on the Tammy Duckworth bill. Now, 538 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 3: the reason he teed up the vote is because he 539 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 3: knew it would fail, and it was written in such 540 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 3: a way as to be filled with poison pills as 541 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 3: to force any publican with principles who believes in life 542 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 3: to vote against it, because this would empower a Joe 543 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 3: Bidener Kamala Harris administration to go after laws protecting unborn 544 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 3: children in states across this country. This was an abortion bill, 545 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 3: it was not an IVF bill, and it was again 546 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 3: designed to trample religious liberty. So yesterday on the Senate floor, 547 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 3: I went to the Senate floor along with Katie Britton. 548 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 3: We tried to pass our IVF bill, and I stood 549 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 3: up and gave a speech in support of it. Katy 550 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 3: Britt stood up and gave a speech in support of it, 551 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 3: and I asked for unanimous consent to pass our bill. 552 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: And what happened. 553 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 3: The Democrats stood up and objected. They said no, we 554 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 3: will not allow this to pass. And we had a 555 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 3: debate back and forth. And I want to encourage you, 556 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,479 Speaker 3: if you care about this issue, go listen to the debate, 557 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 3: Listen to my speech, listen to Katy Britt's speech, and 558 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 3: then listen to Patty Murray, the Democrat from Washington State 559 00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 3: who objected. Because the entire point of what the Democrats 560 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 3: were doing was a purely political exercise. If they actually 561 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 3: wanted to protect IVF, all they had to do was 562 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 3: very simple. Not say two words, not say the words 563 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 3: I object. If they had not said those two words, 564 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 3: today the Senate would have unanimously passed my legislation protecting IVF. 565 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 3: But from the Democrat's perspective, that would have been a 566 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 3: catastrophic disaster because if we actually pass a strong statutory 567 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 3: protection for IVF, then they can't run millions of dollars 568 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 3: to campaign ads scaring voters into saying the mean Republicans 569 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 3: want to take away IVF. So they objected to Katie 570 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 3: Britz and my legislation because they don't want to protect IVF. 571 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 3: And a point that I made in the debate, I said, listen, 572 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 3: the Democrat bill was drafted deliberately with poison pills. 573 00:31:58,800 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 2: They're objective. 574 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 3: They wanted to Republicans to vote no because they don't 575 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 3: actually want to pass their bill. 576 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: What they want to. 577 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,719 Speaker 3: Do is force Republicans to vote no so they can 578 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 3: run ads say, oh, Republicans are opposed to IVF. 579 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 2: That is a lie. Not a single Republican as appost IVF. 580 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 3: A couple of months ago when we had this debate, 581 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 3: one of the people who joined Katie and me on 582 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 3: the Senate floor was Roger Marshall. Roger Marshall, Republican senator 583 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 3: from Kansas, is a physician. He is an obgyn who 584 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 3: has delivered thousands of babies, and he actually has performed 585 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 3: IVF procedures for hundreds of parents. He literally was an 586 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 3: IVF doctor. And yet the Democrat's talking point is an 587 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 3: IVF doctor is opposed to IVF. It's absurd. So understand, 588 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 3: they drafted their bill with poison pills because their objective 589 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 3: was to make Republicans vote against it, and all but 590 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 3: two of us did. My bill, and Katie's bill has 591 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 3: no poison pills in it. Every Democrat agrees with every 592 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 3: word of our bill. There's not a war in it 593 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 3: that they disagree with. Their problem is if it passes, 594 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 3: the issue they want to run against goes away, and 595 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 3: they don't want the issue to go away, and so 596 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 3: sadly they objected it. And I got to tell you 597 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 3: this is an example of where the corrupt corporate media matters. 598 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 3: When I was giving my speech, when Katie was giving 599 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 3: her speech, there were no reporters in the gallery. If 600 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 3: you read any of the press coverage, the reporters all said. 601 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 3: The headlines today were Republicans block bill to protect IVF. 602 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 3: And you know what, the corporate media virtually none of 603 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 3: them covered the fact that we had a bill to 604 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 3: protect IVF the Democrats blocked. Part of the reason the 605 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 3: Democrats are willing to do that is they know the 606 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 3: media will not cover what they're doing. 607 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Center, 608 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you don't forget to dealt 609 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: with my podcast and you can listen to my podcasts 610 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: every other day you're not listening to Verdict, or each 611 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: day when you listen to Verdict afterwards, I'd love to 612 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: have you as a listener to again the Ben Ferguson podcasts, 613 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: and we will see you back here on Monday morning.