1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Welcome back to More to It to show the text 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: a deep dive into the biggest stories in sports, entertainment, 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: and culture. 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 2: Start with headline news and then journey to. 5 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: Deeper conversations, always finding those life lessons that are presented 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: in every single story. I'm your host, Marcel Swally, that 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: dude back at the crib, back in the locker room 8 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: where we only tell the truth, the whole truth and nutting, 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: but the truth feels good to be home. 10 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 2: Man. 11 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: Get to see my iddy biddies got back this morning 12 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: and they were already at school. So I'm trying to 13 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: hit the ground running and get some stuff done before 14 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: I got pick them up. We got football practice, we 15 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: got gymnastics. We gotta get it into it. But you 16 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: know how we start off this show every day with 17 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: what's up with that dude? Well, just got back from 18 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: atl Shawty. I was out there with the Danny word 19 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: full foundation. It had a pickle bowl yep, just like 20 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: it sounded pickle bowl, like the Super Bowl pickle ball. 21 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: And you know, I thought I was just going out. 22 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: There to show some love to Danny Whirldfore we both 23 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: came out the same year, nineteen ninety seven. 24 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: He was drafted fourth round. 25 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: Y'all remember him, played about Danny got about five six 26 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: years in there, got about seven eight teams in there, 27 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: you know how it goes. I've been there before, like Danny, 28 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: and the great thing was just to see his foundation 29 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: make the pivot. They used to have the same old 30 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: chicken gala and the same old all right, let's have 31 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: a golf tournament. And then they went to pickleball and 32 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: literally have doubled their donations and their support was tremendous. 33 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: So I get out there thinking, I'm just. 34 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: Gonna be, you know, one of the midpac guys, former 35 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: athlete who plays pickleball, you know. 36 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: So I'm all right, let's do it. 37 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: It's kind of far to play when I got one 38 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: in my backyard, but let's go to Atlanta to support 39 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: my dog. 40 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: And I get out there and dog, they they ain't 41 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: even lie to me. There weren't ringers out there. 42 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: There were actual professionals out there, like, oh, you playing 43 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: with a pro, and every team gonna have a pro, 44 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: and some teams just gonna have two damn good players. 45 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: It could be pro if they weren't so busy, right, 46 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: And I'm like, God, I'm not lying to y'all, I 47 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: might of what there were twenty fourteen to forty eight players. 48 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: I might have left that thing. BCS ranked forty six, 49 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: maybe forty six. We got one win. I played with 50 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: a guy, his name is Jay w He's next level, insane, 51 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: fastest hands. 52 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: They say on the. 53 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: Pro tour, like, no matter how hard you hit it 54 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: at you go like this, Yeah, he go like this. 55 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell? He was insane and 56 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: a great person. 57 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: Man. 58 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: He didn't criticize me once because we lost four of 59 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: our five games, and let's just say it wasn't his fault, right, 60 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: So there are times when I wasn't even on the 61 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: court and we were playing better. It was crazy because 62 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: I go run chase the ball, my fat ass, This 63 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: big eighteen wheeler ain't slowing down. 64 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: So once I go that way, it's gonna take me 65 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: a minute to come back this way. Right. He on 66 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: the court by himself, boar, winning the points and all that. 67 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: So obviously we didn't make the playoffs of you know, 68 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: if you go one and four, I don't think you're 69 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: making the playoffs. But I got a chance to commentate 70 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: the finals. A lot of guys out there obviously Danny 71 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 1: wirthfo David Pollack was out there, respect to him. Who 72 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: else did I see? Eric Decker was out there? He 73 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: could play. All these dudes could play way better than me. 74 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: Let me just keep saying that. But it was humbling. 75 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: And then let me know, I got to go in 76 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: my backyard a lot more. I got to invite a 77 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: lot more people over. We got to have more pickleball 78 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: socials and get a better group of friends that could play. 79 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: They out there, Actually they hit me up and I 80 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: always try to like avoid them, but no more, it's 81 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: time to pill you know, take that band a get 82 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: off dog and play the best because they were lighting 83 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: it up and. 84 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: Pick a ball. Old young. 85 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: John Barry was out there. John Barry, his name Rick Barry. 86 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: I don't know who's the oldest of all the Barrys. 87 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: He's like seventy some years old. Anyway, he's a basketball 88 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: player and he was out there killing it sevent me something. 89 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: He had a long way to go down to get 90 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: the balls in the dinkin right. 91 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: You know, his elevator was faster than mine, but still 92 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: was like, go get the ball. So it was just 93 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: great to see man, respect to Danny work for in 94 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: the foundation everything. All right, let's get into this show 95 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: right now. Let's talk about somebody who's balling out of 96 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: control but doesn't know exactly where he's going to be balling. 97 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: That's Damian Lillard, who expressed his interest to leave Portland 98 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: to go to Miami, and then that got altered into 99 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: maybe going back to Portland or Miami. But it's certainly 100 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: not about going to Golden State. So the headlines are 101 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,679 Speaker 1: now that he is not interested in joining the Golden 102 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: State Warriors. Now that's interesting in itself because it makes 103 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: me think of some things that maybe public reaction has 104 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: boxed these basketball players in to think in certain ways. 105 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: We'll talk about that life lesson at the end. 106 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: So he expressed his respect for the warriors achievements, said, hey, 107 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: who could sneeze at the dynasty that they've created all that, 108 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: But he doesn't see himself going there, especially after they've 109 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: won four championships to see what this is going, right, 110 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: So he wanted to go to Miami. Obousek, they got 111 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: the final say upstairs, so that decision is not ultimately 112 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: in Damian Lillard's hands. People forget sometimes, especially in the NBA, 113 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: because they seem like the star players more partners than 114 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: they do in the NFL, right, then they do. 115 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: In other sports. But remember they're still employees. 116 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: Highly paid employees, very influential employees, but powerful employees, but 117 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: still employees. So he needs them to sign off on this, 118 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: and the way it's been handled so far, they're a 119 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: little reluctant to doing that. Obviously they want to get 120 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: the best deal as well, but more than. 121 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 2: That, they don't want to set a president. 122 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: They don't want this all sudden to set president that 123 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:51,799 Speaker 1: Damian Lillard, our guy, mister Loyal, all of a sudden 124 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: just woke up and said, I got to be out 125 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: of here, and we allowed it. So now the next guy, 126 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: who ain't even gonna be half as good as Damian Lillard, 127 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: think he got it like that, Oh he doesn't. So 128 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: ultimately this decision lies upstairs. 129 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 2: But Damian Lillard has talked about it. 130 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: Let me get into this, all right, because have we 131 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: boxed Damian Lillard in think about it that he can't 132 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: now choose fully where he desires to play. Do you 133 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: think that's a part of this, because to me, that's problematic. 134 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: If so, now he hasn't said that. Some people are saying, 135 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: look the Golden State Warriors roster is aging. You know, 136 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: Steph Curry thirty five, and you got Draymond, you got 137 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: Clay with the one leg but coming back, but still 138 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: ain't all the way back. 139 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: So it's just like, why would I want to go there? Right? 140 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: And you add the cherry on top of they did 141 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: win four championships, so I wouldn't get the proper credit 142 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: or respect I deserve. 143 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 2: Huh. And it's crazy because there's a parallel. 144 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: He wants to go to Miami and going to Miami 145 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: even though they won. 146 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 2: A championship of late. 147 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: Now, obviously they won the championship with Lebron. Obviously they 148 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: won the championship before Lebron with the way. The thing 149 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: a funny thing about it is how Miami is not 150 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:11,559 Speaker 1: perceived as being a great team like the Golden State 151 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: Warriors are, even though Miami was in the finals and 152 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: Golden State wasn't. 153 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: But gohods, State got that dynasty. 154 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: And he's actually going to a better team because he's 155 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: going to the Miami. He were in the finals, and 156 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: some would say the East is easier. So wait a minute, 157 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: Durant got lit up for going to a team that 158 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: won seventy three games, but we're in the finals and lost. 159 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: But we lit him up when he went there and 160 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: they won, and obviously he was the main reason they 161 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: were winning because he was winning the finals MVPs and 162 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: he was the best player on the team, despite Steph 163 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: Curry still being amazing. 164 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: But we lit him up. 165 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: But it seems like Damien is trying to choose that 166 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: route and we're not gonna light him up because when 167 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: he said he wanted to go to Miami, nobody said 168 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: anything about it. Everybody like, go to Miami. If he 169 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: can do, get it with your muscle. If you can 170 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: get it, go get it. But we're looking like already 171 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: can see the reaction. All you gonna go and state 172 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: come on, dog, gonna state one. The Lakers be gonna 173 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: stay last year and the Lakers got swept by Denver. 174 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: So it's just weird, like how this Rubik's cube looks 175 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: in terms of perception not reality. He is literally going 176 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: to a better team right now and we gonna let 177 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: him slide versus going to the Dynasty, but not the 178 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: better team. 179 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: I'll have a problem with either one. 180 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: I have a problem that we as a sports fan 181 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: community picks one over the other. When we all grew 182 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: up the same damn way. All right, everybody free to 183 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: lune shoot all right first to make it captains. Okay, Dick, 184 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: who you got right or you just walked in and 185 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: everybody's all right, those are the two best players, y'all 186 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: captains because we don't want y'all on the same team. 187 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: So split y'all. Now you pick who is he gonna 188 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: pick first, the best player to make what the best team? 189 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: And it was no backla. That's with that. 190 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: It's just crazy, man, you know me. I'm up in 191 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: and there in his locker room just thinking it's kind 192 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: to unlearned that bs man, we penalizing these players for 193 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: going to certain spots because. 194 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 2: Of perception, not even reality. 195 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: So I'm just wondering what y'all think about this whole situation. 196 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: What do you think is influencing Damian Lillar's decision? Why 197 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: Miami over Golden State or any other team out there, 198 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: Let's just be real, other teams out there. 199 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 2: Is it just simply you want to go to. 200 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: Miami, great city, dum and also they are a great team, 201 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: they were in the finals, but they're going to give 202 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: up something to get Damian Lillard that's the conversation. And 203 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: where do you think he ultimately opens up? Camp Portland, Miami? 204 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: Show him wet s. I made him a little rusty 205 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: cause I ain't even show y'all my book. Y'all know 206 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: how this goes right here. This is the book Never 207 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: shut Up. All I need for you to do is 208 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: go to project transition dot org. How did I not 209 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: mention that I forgot about the itedy biddies in the 210 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: first topic Project transition dot org. You gotta go there, 211 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: leave your email so you be a part of this 212 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: community that we are building and growing. 213 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: And this community is to. 214 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: Go tap into the youth and you to unlock that 215 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: inner potential man, and let it go out there and 216 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: amplify for the world to see. 217 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: That's what we're doing, y'all. Yep, And I'm gonna show. 218 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: You if you leave your email or like you're doing, 219 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: and I truly appreciate it. If you like what I'm doing, 220 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: then you got to support what I'm doing. And you're 221 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: supporting it through the donation. Make it a recurring donation 222 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: or just a one time donation. Either way, man, just 223 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: support what we're building out here and the impact we're. 224 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: Trying to make with these kids. 225 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the impact that Dion has 226 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: on the Colorado Buffalos and viewership for all the networks. 227 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: Let's just say he's been a big draw, you know, 228 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: let's start there. 229 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: But they're double time overtime, double overtime win over Colorado 230 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: State set a new record for ESPN, averaging nine point 231 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: three million viewers, fourth most watched regular season game on 232 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: ESPN or ABC in the last six years, and the 233 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: fifth most watched ESPN regular season game ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, 234 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: got dark Deon out there getting it all right, So 235 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: we saw week one, Week two, they also have big 236 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: viewership numbers as well, seven point two and eight point 237 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: seven in those two weeks, and those were on Fox. 238 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: So now they're playing Oregon on ABC an hour. You 239 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: can add all them numbers up. Addruss me, you can 240 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: add all them numbers up and then boom this one. 241 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: Because I ain't gonna lie to y'all. When they played TCU, 242 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: I wasn't like a mandatory appointment viewing. 243 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 2: But then when I heard they were up, I was like, oh, oh, 244 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: you know, and one. 245 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: Of those same thing when you saw Colorado State game, 246 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, what's going on. 247 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 2: Right and Nebraska. I ain't gonna lie it. I ain't 248 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: watched Somebraska, so. 249 00:11:55,280 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: I'm like, damn Oregon, and without Travis Hunter's gonna be tough. 250 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: It's gonna be tight. But I'm gonna be watching it. 251 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: You know that everybody's watching that now. It's gonna be 252 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: a huge weekend of college football because Ohio State plays 253 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: Notre Dame as well. That's gonna be a big game, 254 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: probably gonna draw even more because of those two big 255 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: fan bases, those school spirits on full display. But why 256 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: is all this happening right now? I ain't gonna be 257 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna draw this out too long. Ain't nobody 258 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: trying to hear viewer viewership numbers all damn day. Let 259 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: me tell you what's happening prime time. Deon Sanders is 260 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: just simply fascinating. Fascinating right, irresistible in terms of your 261 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: desire to just see what he's up to. He was 262 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: like that as a player, and he's like that as 263 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: a coach. Let me explain why. Because his behavior, his actions, 264 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: and the results all challenge us. 265 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: In the ways that we do things. 266 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: Because the way he does things is deemed unconventional right, 267 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: just a little different. It challenges who we are at 268 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: the core our cultural values as we've been sold. 269 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 2: And told over the years. I mean, give it to you. 270 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: It forces you to challenge your traditional values of how 271 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: you go out there and approach your task because of 272 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: the way that Dion does it, which is different. 273 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 2: You know, he gets drafted. 274 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 1: We all seen everybody get drafted, right, I got drafted. 275 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: Y'all saw that it was on CNN. 276 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: I got drafted, yay, or or whatever it may be, 277 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: whatever you've seen, or everybody doing some electric slide, whatever 278 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: you have seen to in the homeland suits, whatever you've done. 279 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: Seen how many times y'all haven't seen somebody get drafted 280 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: with nine hundred and thirty six gold chains on curl, 281 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: straight dripping and just looking like what and maybe laugh 282 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: and cough. Dion did it like that. And usually when 283 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: you see that, you think that guy is a character. 284 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: And when you see him as a character, admitted your 285 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: question how much you're gonna respect them because you want 286 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,599 Speaker 1: to see the results, because you're like most people that 287 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: have that much sizzle don't have that much substance, just 288 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: the way we've been taught. 289 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 2: And then you watched Dian on the field. 290 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: Off the field, you're like, oh he talking it and 291 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: walking it? 292 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: What And that's why he's fascinating. 293 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: So now we're all being challenged the way we go 294 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: up the mountain, and are you going up the mountain 295 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: authentically like you really desire to do it, or are 296 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: you doing it in a safe, socialized, conditioned manner just 297 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: to be measured because you're scared of the results and 298 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: it's risky and you know what if I fail and 299 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: dion I swear, he makes everyone who is connected to 300 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: him realize, Man, do it your way. 301 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: Ain't nobody gonna break you because they ain't make you. 302 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: Right his famous quote that everybody has heard before, but uh, 303 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: it really resonates when you hear from him. So usually 304 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: people would ad smoke and mirror kind of guys. Right, 305 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: the sizzle displays aren't victorious consistently or they don't win consistently. 306 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 2: Right Prime does on the field. 307 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: Off the field, he does his sizzle and substance combination 308 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: is the thing that's taking all the excuses off the 309 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: board for everyone involved. 310 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: That's what he does. 311 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: That's why he's fascinating, That's why we all feel captivated 312 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: to watch him. 313 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 2: I know I do. 314 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: I'm a dog and I'm me and I'm like, they 315 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: gotta be more to me. Then I kinda get more 316 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: of this out, like go get it. That dude is 317 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: doing it. He's like, look what you mean. I'm gonna 318 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: win and it's all good. And even if I don't win, 319 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: I'm still a winner, you know what I'm saying. And 320 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: that deep messaging is starting to resonate with all and 321 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: it's always been on display, but now he's transformed it 322 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: and translated it to a different way. From being the 323 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: play that had all that energy and bottled it up 324 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: and showed the world to now I can take this 325 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: message and through osmosis transferred to all these men that 326 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: I'm leading young men inspired, not just them us. We 327 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: are watching them, everybody just checking in and it's love. 328 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: And there's some people out there who love to hate them. 329 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: I know, I see Whitlocking and some other guys like that. 330 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: But guess what that's still bringing you in because now 331 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: you're realizing your force. Your criticism, can't condemn them, can't 332 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: undermine them. 333 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 2: And that's beautiful too, Floyd Mayweather style, right. 334 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: So it's just something special about the guy who talks, 335 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: walks and just says, hey, I still want I did 336 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: it my way, and I think we're all starting to 337 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: just jump on board. I mean maybe not now, we 338 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: already did, but the point is it's amazing to watch. 339 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: And Dion Sanders is the guy that is the most 340 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,239 Speaker 1: fascinating right now in our sports culture. Salute to your 341 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: damn salute brother. All right, so now let's get to 342 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: the real They beat now Oregon this weekend. Hell no, 343 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: I can't lie. I want to say, hell no, just 344 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: off of some reputation. This is the stuff that people 345 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: do on air, and I would have done it on 346 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: air too, But with y'all, I'm being real. 347 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 2: I ain't seen Oregon play. I've seen them highlights. 348 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: All I see is the same old thing, green and 349 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: yellow running fast. 350 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: They're three on both sides of the ball. Oh they're 351 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 2: a story program. Now you know. 352 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: They're deeper. Deane brought in what fifty some new players. 353 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: They look deep too. Football always comes down to this, now, 354 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: how good you are, how well you play? So we'll 355 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: see how well they play. But how far can this 356 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: Colorado love go? You think it stops right now in 357 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: terms of the wins. But still I think the dynamic. 358 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: The phenomenon still goes because they play us see the 359 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: we gather the hell going on? Where do we see 360 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: this all going? So just beat it up in the 361 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: comments and have some fun with it. And it's funny 362 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 1: because Dion's like, Yo, what I'm building. It ain't going nowhere, 363 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: including my sons, they ain't going nowhere. 364 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: Y'all busting right here even next year. 365 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: Forget them NFL projections, Loving y'all, for all the love 366 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: y'all got for your boy over here and all the. 367 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: Support Project transition dot org. Look at this book. 368 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: This is one of the things, one of the items, 369 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: one of the gifts I'll hook you guys up with. 370 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: I got them jerseys still, but I'm getting tired of 371 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: just picking them up and looking like this. I ain't 372 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: gonna lie to y'all used car salesman looking at it. 373 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: So I stopped doing that. But they still here, and 374 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: they still going in the mail, and they still gonna 375 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: be yours. Project Transition dot org. Leave your email so 376 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: our community can continue to grow. If you're so inclined 377 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: and you got the five dollars or more, leave a 378 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: donation and make it a recurring donation. So we always 379 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: feel the love, always feel the support. Appreciate y'all. Any 380 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: level is all love. All right, Let's talk about stephen A. 381 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 2: Smith and Torretdoens. 382 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: Okay, Now, since the subject alert, Since then the subject alert, 383 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: since to the subject alert? Why because these guys are 384 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: really taking this to heart as they should. Man, be 385 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: invested in your words, be invested in your craft. So 386 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: I'm invested in mind. So I'm going to take my 387 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: time and do this methodically, all right. So first let's 388 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: just get the science out the way. ESPN stephen A. 389 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: Smith and NFL Hall of Famer TiO, who should have 390 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: been the first ballot, still engaged in the heated social 391 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: media battle feud, and it's on YouTube as well, on 392 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: x et cetera. 393 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 2: They've been going at it. All stem from. 394 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: That twenty nineteen incident when Owens claimed that Max Killerman 395 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: was blacker or seemed blacker than him. 396 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 2: We all seen the clip, all right. 397 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: We they were talking about Colin Kaepernick, and he was like, man, 398 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: Max seene blacker. 399 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 2: Than you, laughing through it. But stephen A didn't find 400 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 2: any of that funny. 401 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 1: Okay, So Owens last weekend reference to Cliff quote tweeted 402 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: it facts bunch of exclamation points, and Stephen A. 403 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: Smith responded quickly. Stephen A. 404 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: Smith has said since that he maybe maybe I don't 405 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: know yes or no, but basically he didn't feel that 406 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: he should have responded so fast or the way he did, 407 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: but he cast him sorry, pathetic ass and etc. And said, 408 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: don't make me go in and expose you. So that's 409 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: what Stephen A. Smith's response was. I think it's on 410 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: me on this show doing these clips not to always 411 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: bog you down with every single word and what they do, 412 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: because I'm trying to give you deeper intelligence just based 413 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: on my experience and the fact that I was privy 414 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: to being behind the veil, but more than that, also 415 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: give you an overview because I know the industry so 416 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: well and these individuals, so you can always research these things. Man, 417 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: I hate to be that guy, but these clips will 418 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: be fifty minutes long. 419 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 2: If I did all of that. So then Stephen A. 420 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: Smith responded as well, said their relationship got bad when 421 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: Owens attempted to. 422 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 2: Sue him over a hit from that. 423 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: Kellerment, a lawsuit that went nowhere and was deemed laughable. 424 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 2: Okay, so the science is out the way. 425 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna start getting into my opinion and how 426 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: all this thing went down. 427 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 2: Here are my thoughts on steven A versus too. 428 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: All right, you gotta start with me, right because every 429 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: conversation that is being had about this is being laced 430 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: with bias. My bias is not towards Teo or stephen A. 431 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 2: Smith. 432 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: My bias is towards this the industry. One of the 433 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: reasons why I'm in this locker room right now and 434 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: not on some glossy desk is because I didn't like 435 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:43,959 Speaker 1: how the industry was rewarding reporters, analysts, hosts, journalists. 436 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 2: Wherever you want to call, whatever you want to call. 437 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: I wasn't loving how the industry was rewarding them to 438 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: eat their own and their own are the actual athletes, 439 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: the actual sports, right. 440 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 2: I didn't like the ethics of it, so that was 441 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 2: part of it. 442 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: Now I'm not holier than now, and I'm sure I 443 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: stepped in it as well, But a couple of things 444 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: from that, I was like, is there a lane where 445 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: you don't have to come at cast like that and 446 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: still get it going and still make your bread, still 447 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: get your points across, and still be in the know 448 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: and still be popular and still get paid. Like it 449 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: gotta be right, because nobody grew up hate non athletes. 450 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: Matter of fact, you always saluted an athlete, wanting to 451 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: be him if you weren't him already, right, So just 452 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: thought it was weird, and I knew that that was 453 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: a culture because culture is what's rewarded, and because the 454 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: people getting rewarded are the ones who have more shot 455 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: jock than anybody. I was like, one, it ain't gonna 456 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: be me cause I ain't built that way, whether it's 457 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: because I'm an athlete or not, or just because that's 458 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: how I'm raised. I'm like, I ain't gonna beat that 459 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: dude up and then say how much y'am paying for it. 460 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna do that, so I knew. 461 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: I plateaued. I just knew that, and now was a 462 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: high as plateau. Trust me, don't feel sorry for me. 463 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: It was a high, and plateau I was like, I 464 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: ain't gonna never catch these dudes, and I'm a winner, 465 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: so I gotta go where I could go. I got 466 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: to talk to my people, because that's my best gift, 467 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: just talking it out, discussing, not debating, all right, So Now, 468 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: this is not about Stephen A. Or t O this 469 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: clip that I'm doing right now, not at its core. 470 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 2: Follow me. 471 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: This is not an attack or support take. I'm not 472 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: picking a side. You may think I am, but I'm not. 473 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: This is much deeper. This is about me always trying 474 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: to discern, always trying to distinguish the truth from the lies. 475 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: Simple as that. So let me give you a while. 476 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: He is if you have heard this one before, I 477 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: love this one. The truth is simple and lies are complex. 478 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: This story is complex because it's full of lies. All right, 479 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: let's get into it, yl take it five minutes, stammen. 480 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: All right, this is all based on purposeful deception, largely 481 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: by Stephen A. 482 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 2: Smith, if not entirely. 483 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: Now, why don't say entirely, because I don't know the 484 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: whole story, but I can tell you everything I know. 485 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: I will right now. Let's go through this quote first. 486 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: Let me jump around and get to this quote, because 487 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: this quote really sets it all up. 488 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 2: Quote. 489 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: We stopped talking because after you saw that hit from 490 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: Max Kellerman, Terrell always tried to sue me. Needless to say, 491 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: it was laughable. It never went anywhere. He wasn't getting 492 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: a damn dime which he was hoping to get. That's 493 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,239 Speaker 1: why I was pissed off Saturday. Why would he get 494 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: lawyers involved looking for money? I wonder why y'all speculate 495 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: about that. Ooh, that was grinding. But the point is 496 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: he tried to sue me. 497 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 2: Stephen A. Smith I quote. 498 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: One thing that wasn't addressed in that quote is why 499 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: he tried to sue you. Okay, so let me just 500 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: clean this up because it's getting lost. He tried to 501 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: sue you because this all started when you published Too's 502 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: private text messages, and you knew that you were wrong 503 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: in doing that, but now you're mad that he sued 504 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: you or tried to sue you, and twisted the story 505 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: to make people think he's only doing this because he's 506 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: hard for money or he needs attention. No, actually, Too 507 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: was minding his business, wanted to go on your show 508 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: because he's a Hall of Famer. 509 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 2: He's too, wanted to talk Happenick did it. 510 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: Said that maxis blacker than you, which I've already said 511 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: will continue to say is wrong by Too. 512 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 2: But we know what he was trying to say as well. 513 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: And it was tongue in cheek and there were many 514 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: reactions that could have been had in that moment, but 515 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: we know the one that was taken. 516 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 2: So all of this. 517 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: Twisting, purposeful manipulation and deception of what really happened to 518 00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: me what jay Z. 519 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 2: Said, it's just lame, man. This is lame. Not stephen 520 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 2: A is lame. 521 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: Stephen A is doing something lame and he knows it. 522 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: He knows damn well he was in the wrong. And 523 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: let me give it to you like this as I 524 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 1: break this thing down. He tried to sue me. The 525 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: first response, as he always loves to talk about journalists, 526 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,719 Speaker 1: it should be why. And I want to hear that 527 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 1: explanation as loud and long as I hear that he 528 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: tried to sue you. Okay, because what I'm seeing happening 529 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: right now is stephen A is telling a lie or 530 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: not the. 531 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 2: Full truth, whatever you want to call it. 532 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: He's telling a lie and he's saying it the loudest 533 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: and he's saying it the longest. So therefore he and 534 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: some others are thinking that it is truth. 535 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: It's not truth. This all started because of you doing 536 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: something that. 537 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: Violated too, and lawyers came to too, saying, hey man, 538 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: that's in violation. 539 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 2: What would you like to do about that? 540 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: Now? I'm gonna LETEO tell his full story because I 541 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: don't know the full story, but I do know this 542 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: part of it. 543 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 2: And even Stephen A. Smith he hadn't said this yet. 544 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: He might have to say it now after I put 545 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: this out there, or someone else puts it out there, 546 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: or t O tells it. Whatever, admit it that he 547 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: did that and that was wrong to publish those text messages. 548 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 2: Here's the funny thing is. 549 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: He used as a reason, as an excuse, that he 550 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: thought that the text message. 551 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 2: Was a tweet, whoa night? 552 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: All right, here we go, open up y'all texts, all right, 553 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: look at it, open up y'all ex or Twitter, look 554 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: at Have you ever, ever, ever, ever, ever ever thought 555 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: those two were the same. 556 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 2: Hell no, so one. I'm like, that is foul to even. 557 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: Act like that's the reason, when we know the real 558 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: reason is you were mad because to touched the third rail. 559 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 2: In Steven A. Smith's core. He questioned your. 560 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: Blackness, and Stephen that you ain't the first one who 561 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: has a platform who has gone counterculture in some conversation, 562 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: who has been called to sellout. 563 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 2: Rajia hann If you've been in that position before. 564 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: And at the same time, don't have to have this 565 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: type of reaction. You put those messages. You put that 566 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:54,479 Speaker 1: message out because he triggered you. He got you and 567 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: hit dog holler. 568 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 2: It's okay, God, we know, we see and that's what happened. 569 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,479 Speaker 2: So now, Stephen A. Smith, instead of just saying I 570 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 2: was wrong putting out the message. You know what he says. 571 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: In my whole entire career, I've never ever put off 572 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: the record conversation out there, but you did, and then 573 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: to clean it up just and so you can reconcile 574 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: the fact that you've never done this even though you 575 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: just did it. 576 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 2: You say, I thought it was a tweet. You can't 577 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 2: make this out, man, you can't make this out. 578 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,239 Speaker 1: Okay, there are other things to this, So let me 579 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: just kind of like give you some other layers. He 580 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: called too desperate and trifling. But it isn't showing somebody's 581 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: private text message and trying to throw yourself a life 582 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: raft and doing it. Isn't that desperate trifling? 583 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 2: Right? 584 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: Isn't it a little desperate of trifling to like get 585 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: a pile of papers and say these papers tell me 586 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: everything about you? Too, like you showing a foul of 587 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: to that we don't even know what it's saying on 588 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: the foul, but who cares? 589 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 2: And even if it's true, what are you the fans like? Woo? 590 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 2: And once again I'm gonna reiterate, this is not against 591 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 2: stephen A. 592 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: Smith y'all cauld say it is. This is about the 593 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: truth and the truth I'll set you free, and the 594 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: truth is who I ride with. All my boys know this. 595 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: I have said bad things about dudes I love. I've 596 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: said bad things about every single person I've worked with before. 597 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 2: Ask them. I don't know why, because sometime they weren't 598 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 2: telling the truth. 599 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: To simples that I am not perfect. Call me out 600 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: when you want to call me out. But boy, I 601 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: got a heavy tendency to go with the truth, right 602 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: you know, I'm on the goal line, I run the ball. 603 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 2: Were talking. I'm telling the truth. So here we go, insummation. 604 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: You're trying to say you're mad he tried to sue 605 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: you because he's broke, but you even ad. 606 00:30:59,280 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: Minute that you knew that. 607 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: But you were wrong privately, and more so, you only 608 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: violated aired his and your private texts just to make 609 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: him look bad and you look good. Not a lot 610 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: of people are privileged to catch that. Raise your hand 611 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: if you are, I am. We now all see to 612 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: switch your route now. 613 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 2: Stephen A. 614 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: Smith wants us to believe everything he's saying, even though 615 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: his story continues to weave, just like this story on 616 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: Max Kellerman continued to weave. I've known this story. I've 617 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: witnessed how that went down for years. I didn't cap 618 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: for Max. 619 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 2: I cap for the truth, y'all, and the truth was, 620 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 2: did the dude dirty? 621 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: It's okay, Max is fine. He gonna be all right. 622 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: You gonna be alright because you are all right right, 623 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: But we can't act like t O didn't trigger you 624 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: because you've heard you were sellout. I've heard I'm gonna 625 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: sell out. Welcome to the part. If you say something 626 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: against your culture, everybody is a sell out, no matter 627 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: what your race and ethnicity is. 628 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 2: Come on, man, this ain't new. Wherever the crowd goes. 629 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 2: If you say I'm gonna turn this other way, everybody 630 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 2: gonna be on your head. Right, we know that. 631 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: But at the same time, that doesn't mean you get 632 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: to drag others just because they are trying to drag you. 633 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: Stand strong. If you said it, mean it, you know. 634 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: If that's your stance, stand in your stance. So I 635 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: didn't like that part. I can continue to keep. 636 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 2: Going on this. 637 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: But the only other thing I think that's profound, just 638 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: to give you some understanding, is kind of like looking 639 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: at the layers of it. I want stephen A to 640 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: just keep it real, brother, you know, keep it real, 641 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: so we all could go back to just being entertained 642 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: by your greatness, man, Like I'm entertained by steven A, 643 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: as simple as that. Okay, And even if he's mad 644 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: at this or think I'm coming at him, Dan, stop 645 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: you know damn where I ain't spoke one lie yet 646 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: instead of stopping, you're making us all stop down and 647 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,719 Speaker 1: being entertained by your greatness and number one show and 648 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: big platform because everyone's liedar is going off. Yeah, you're 649 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: a lidar, like when you ever just be talking about 650 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: your light ark what that don't make sense? 651 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 2: Don't add up. 652 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 3: That's why he keeps trying to clean up Max because 653 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 3: the light rs beat beat me, don't make sense, don't 654 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 3: make sense, and the lid r and is t oh 655 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 3: meet me, hit dogs, holler, Man, I ain't mad at it, 656 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 3: so what I want to see is one not for 657 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 3: them to squash this. 658 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: I don't believe in that all the time. Talk it 659 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: out and talk it out of public. Shoe y'all started 660 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: this in public, finishing in public. Don't do that. I'm 661 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: not tripping on any of that. All I say is, 662 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: don't let it go overboard and overboard his hands overboard 663 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: is trying to get him in trouble hits. Just talk, man, 664 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: the truth gonna win. We can see we ain't stupid. 665 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: That's all I want to see in this situation. Now 666 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: for y'all to beat up in the conversation and the comments, 667 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: your thoughts on this, just your overall thoughts. And do 668 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: you think that Stephen A, since he has that platform 669 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: and too has his platform, should be arguing like this 670 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 1: in public? 671 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 2: Ord you want them people like man just call him 672 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 2: up and just do. But it's weird to me. I 673 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 2: can't agree with that because they go at these. 674 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: Athletes that they don't want to. They don't want to 675 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call him. They just go 676 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: in on them. And it's not always on performance to 677 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: stop backing like it is. So if you're gonna do that, hey, 678 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: what's up? Like I told you guys. I got back 679 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: into the game in this dimension, in this form, this 680 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: version of media, because I wanted to talk directly with you, 681 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 1: not to you. I got into it this way because 682 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to go deeper on subjects. I don't want 683 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: to just talk about the Jets gonna win by two 684 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 1: or not. I want to do that, but I want 685 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: to do a lot more. I don't want borders on 686 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. So I'm going to cover sports 687 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:13,280 Speaker 1: just like stephen A cover sports. But I'm also gonna 688 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: cover those who cover sports. And that's the new wrinkle 689 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: in today's media. I hope that ready, because if you're lying, 690 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: might start crying. 691 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 2: This is love, man. 692 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting to see what happens, how they 693 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: continue this or they just dead this. But all the 694 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: reactions that could have been. You could have laughed this off, 695 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,280 Speaker 1: You could have dead it at the moment. 696 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 2: You could have I don't know. 697 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: You could have just been like, yo, that was wrong 698 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,439 Speaker 1: and foul. We ain't cool. And I will never speak 699 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: to you again. I'll never speak on this again. But 700 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: this just keeps scratching at the sky for a reason. 701 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: It's because the truth has not been fully let out. 702 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:54,839 Speaker 2: Hopefully this gives you. 703 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: Clarity and understanding on it and then you take it 704 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: where you got you just loving y'all be cause y'all 705 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: love this and what we're doing. 706 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,760 Speaker 2: Look at that back back back back, back back back. 707 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: Chris Berman, love right there, Project Transition dot Org go there, 708 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,240 Speaker 1: long on, leave you email? 709 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 2: How hard is that? Just want you to be a 710 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 2: part of the community, part of the team. Hell man. 711 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 2: You can also leave a. 712 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: Donation, donation, donation I thought I was a track me stupid. 713 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: You can leave a donation there, or you can leave 714 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: a recurring donation to always be a part of the family. 715 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,240 Speaker 2: Help these kids, man develop their. 716 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: Inner power so they could amplify for the world to see, 717 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 1: to unlock their true potential. 718 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,879 Speaker 2: All right, let's get into this. 719 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,760 Speaker 1: When Colin Coward's blazing five picks, we know that segment, 720 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 1: regular segment on the show during the NFL season. Well, 721 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: Colin Coward right now and week one, win oh and five, 722 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: Week two, O four and one. I'm not picking on 723 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: Collin because I'm gonna tell yall why he's going. 724 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 2: Oh was that oh four oh nine and one? Hey, 725 00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 2: all right, let's start off here. 726 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: Cowards philosophy has been that commentators don't necessarily need to 727 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: be accurate as long as they're interesting, right, And his 728 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: current streak is certainly generating intrigue around this week three selection, 729 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: and we're all kind of like picking up on. 730 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 2: If he were nailing them, we'd be like dog Colin Kilden. 731 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: And if he's doing what he's doing right now, oh 732 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: nine and one, we're like, damn, we got to see 733 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: next week if he's gonna get a win. 734 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 2: Right, So either way you win, he wins at least, 735 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 2: and we're interested in it. 736 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: Let me tell you why these picks probably are not 737 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: going well, and let me just tell you why most 738 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: of them don't. And let me just tell you the 739 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: process of how they even get our picks. It's a 740 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: very low, very low priority in terms of prep In 741 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: terms of preparation, right, you're doing a show, you three 742 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 1: hours show, the blazing five picks is at the bottom 743 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: of the menu. In terms of what we're talking about. Right, 744 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: you're still doing your homework, whatever it may be. But 745 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 1: let me just tell you for real, from my perspective, 746 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: I've seen it where it's almost like at times filling 747 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: out a multiple choice tests when you don't know any 748 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,720 Speaker 1: of the information. You don't know any of the damn 749 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,879 Speaker 1: answers you ever been there. And the worst is when 750 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 1: it says all the above, you're like, oh, I don't 751 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: know any of the above, let alone all the above. 752 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: So that's why it goes like this. It's just a 753 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 1: low priority. This is not a shot of calm. This 754 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: is just opportunity to tell y'all how it goes. You know, 755 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: I've seen it before where they're like, all, we got 756 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: to pick them segment, Come on, guys, come on, turn 757 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 1: in your second, and then it's literally the home teams 758 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: and the wait teams and cast me included me first 759 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,919 Speaker 1: included I ain't gonna put nobody out there bad. 760 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 2: I go like this Jets, Okay, I got Broncos. Oh no, 761 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna win now. 762 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: No. 763 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 2: No, They're like, y'all that's it, man. 764 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,720 Speaker 1: So it's funny how much weight y'all think the sports 765 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 1: commentators should put on these picks, and how much weight 766 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: do y'all put on the commentator's picks, Like are y'all. 767 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 2: Really going uh? To the app? Are y'all going to Vegas? 768 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 1: Like? Yo, you're a college sess son, My whole not 769 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: because wherever is doing that, they go ninety one right now, right, 770 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: So it's just funny. And do you think there's real 771 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: pressure for us to do it? Do you think we 772 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 1: need to step it up? I'll tell you the reason. 773 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm also bringing this segment up because I have a 774 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: sponsor that is in this lane and we're gonna start 775 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: having some fun with it. 776 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 2: And I promise I'm a prep for it. 777 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,800 Speaker 1: But more than that, we're gonna have some fun engaging 778 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: with it all the way. 779 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 2: All right, now, I'm gonna change my background. I like 780 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 2: doing it this way. 781 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: Shoot, let's go funk up some comments, fuck up some 782 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: commis shit, get out my emails, y'all. I know y'all 783 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 1: knows he answers. All right, here we go, let's talk 784 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: about that. All right, here we go. Let me block it. 785 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: Dionna is in the ideal situation for him. Now, he's 786 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,959 Speaker 1: building something special there as he did in Jackson State. 787 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,879 Speaker 2: All right, mister Marty Wearing that was deep. All right. 788 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: If I'm dion I'm staying. If he stays, he could 789 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: be governor of Colorado. I think you want to do that. 790 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: Senator or a congressman for Colorado. He could literally build 791 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: a family dynasty legacy in that state, like a Bush 792 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: family when they left Connecticut. 793 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 2: Oh interesting for Texas. 794 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: It's the same reason why we people stay in some 795 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: of the poorest states or provinces. The billionaire McCain family 796 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: of the French Fried Frame still live in New Bruns. 797 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: With Canada, you want to be a just just one 798 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: of many prints or one of a kN king good point. 799 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 2: Excuse me. 800 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: The biggest mistakes Vince Carter and Kawhi Leonard ever made 801 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: was leaving the Toronto Raptors. There could have been guys 802 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,800 Speaker 1: in Canada the entire country, both during their playing career 803 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: and long after, but decided to leave now and you 804 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 1: have to think they regret it. Kawhi was offered free 805 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: penthouses and Kawhi and Dines Kawhi eats free. 806 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 2: Good point. You must be from Canada for real. You 807 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 2: broke all that Canada stuff down. All right, here we go. 808 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: I think the doubleheader games are our ways the NFL 809 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: is trying to best to maximize his profits, because having 810 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: as many national televised games is pretty. 811 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 2: Good way to go about it, all right. 812 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: Talking about Deshaun Watson, Marcella she broke it down precisely. 813 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: DeShawn is definitely now confused. He would never be the 814 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: old DeShawn. I don't know about never, y'all. His reputation 815 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: has been tarnished forever. 816 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:58,240 Speaker 2: That is true. 817 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: I wish him well, but this is definitely want to 818 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: be a long road. At least he got the bag 819 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 1: all facts. I don't accept the never part. You could 820 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: turn it around, but you gotta admit it. You gotta 821 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: go get it. You gotta go in there man, all right, 822 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb, I watched the joke Diisman injury live. 823 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 2: Back in nineteen eighty five. 824 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: That was gruesome, and they replayed it several times on 825 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football that night and throughout the week on 826 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: the news. You were cringe every time you saw it. 827 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: I'm glad they didn't replay it last night. I want 828 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 1: to see the replay. If you don't want to watch it, 829 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: do this. 830 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 2: It's done. Oh no, I get it. 831 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no right or wrong, but it's like 832 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: part of the games football. I'm not a fan of 833 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,399 Speaker 1: either team, but they should replay so you can see 834 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: that the defenders should be fined and may be suspended 835 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: for launching himself towards the knee and not trying to 836 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: hit the mid body. 837 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's just. 838 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 1: It gives clarity, Like it gives me as a player, 839 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: as a participant, like clarity of like try to avoid that, 840 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: you know, just supple. All right, here we go, death 841 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 1: threats and the death at the Patriots game. It's terrible 842 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 1: the man died, but freak accidents happened. Men punch each 843 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 1: other sometimes the time it results in death is so 844 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: rare it's statistically insignificant. I wouldn't make this a comment 845 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: on society. It's interesting you say that, because consequences, you know, 846 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: they matter. Man, The results matter. Like if I hit 847 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 1: you and you laugh at it, versus I hit you 848 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: you die from it. I think I'm gonna have a 849 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: different course of action going forward, right, I think I'm 850 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: gonna have different recourse, different consequences. Sorry, just the way 851 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: the game goes, all right, y'all know how we finish 852 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: every show. 853 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 2: We finish with a Wilism. Yeah. I don't have Coach's 854 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,760 Speaker 2: voice right now, but we got practice tonight. 855 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 1: You can have anything you want if you stop believing 856 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: you can't have it. You can have anything you want 857 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: if you stop believing you can't have it. Well, if 858 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: that ain't the crux of all issues faith belief, that's it, 859 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: because it's gonna keep you going, it's gonna keep you 860 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: getting to it and getting through. I'm challenged with this 861 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: one so many times where I'm like, and it's weird 862 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,280 Speaker 1: because it's not in your face. It's like the second 863 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 1: line of defense. It's always like in the back end 864 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: of the thought, do you really believe you can do it? 865 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: Because you have great ideas, you got great stuff on paper, 866 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: you know a great team of people. You can make 867 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: this work. And then challenges are presented because that's how 868 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 1: the game goes. Are you fighting through them? And then 869 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: your level of fight is really determined how much you 870 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: believe that you deserve this, and do you stop believing 871 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 1: you can't do it? 872 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 2: Man, just to get to it? 873 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 1: It's crazy, Oh man, I mean everything I'll ever accomplish 874 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: has gone through this exact crossroad of I can go 875 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 1: to the NFL. I better stop thinking I can't go 876 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: to the NFL. But then you're like, but don't put 877 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,400 Speaker 1: all your eggs in the basket. But then you're like, oh, 878 00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: don't you go out there and start heading your bets. 879 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 1: It's crazy, right, But that's the dynamic. That's the God 880 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 1: and the devil, right, that's the light in the darkness. 881 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 1: That's the way this world is balanced. And you got 882 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,359 Speaker 1: to make sure that you rigid in your favor. And 883 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,280 Speaker 1: the only way you're riggad is taking that belief system 884 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: and putting it in favor of what you're trying to get. 885 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 1: If you don't, it will work against you and you 886 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: will believe you can't have it, so you can have anything, anything, 887 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:33,280 Speaker 1: for real, because then you'll be the person like, I don't. 888 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 2: Know why they got all that and they doing all that. Man, 889 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 2: I'm better than them, or I could do that. 890 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: One thing you have not quantified, and it's impossible to 891 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: really quantify. You only quantify it by results. You don't 892 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 1: quantify it by emotional attributes. But you don't know how 893 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,720 Speaker 1: much they believe in themselves or how much they believe 894 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 1: they can do that. 895 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 2: You don't. You just see the results of it. You 896 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 2: just see the work ethic. 897 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 1: You see that, but you don't know because some people 898 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 1: really work hard, don't belie They just like the only 899 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 1: way I know how you ever seen a robot that 900 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:04,399 Speaker 1: worked really hard? 901 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 2: Nothing on the inside. 902 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,839 Speaker 1: Nothing thinking about right, robotic people like just going going, 903 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm doing it, I'm doing I'm doing. 904 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 2: Do you believe you can do it? Huh? 905 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 1: So remember this, no matter what the goal is, what 906 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,359 Speaker 1: you want to accomplish, you can have anything, anything you 907 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 1: want if you stop believing you can't have it. 908 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 2: All Right, y'all gotta do it. 909 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 1: For more to It, check the show notes for all 910 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 1: the information on our topics today today. Want to keep 911 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 1: the conversation going, Let's talk to find me on all 912 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: socials at Marcello's. Wiley More Too is a production of 913 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Production That Dude Entertainment and workhouse Media. 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