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You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app around 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: from one to four on the radio and then we 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: become a podcast after four o'clock John and Ken on Demand. 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: You can hear what you miss. 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's another chance for you to win some money 7 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: coming up at about three twenty And of course you 8 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: can always leave a message to the moistline by calling 9 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: the tophreye number one eight seven seven Moist eighty six 10 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: are using the iHeartRadio app. We begin with a story 11 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: that was making big news yesterday and we're gonna bring 12 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: Brian Claypool back onto The John and Ken Show and attorney. 13 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: There's a mother suing the Baldwin Park Unified School District. 14 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: She says that a school security guard actually just stood 15 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: and watched, along with other students, where her daughter was 16 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: violently beaten by another girl in the school bathroom. It's 17 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 2: occurring at Baldwin Park High School and this being twenty 18 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: twenty three. Their cell phone video to back all this up. 19 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: Let's bring Brian back on the show and talk about 20 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: this case. 21 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 3: Brian, welcome, Hey, great to be back with you guys. 22 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: Thank you give us. 23 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: An outline of what happened in the bathroom for people 24 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: who not familiar with the case. 25 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 3: Yeah. Sure. On October eighteenth, around one o'clock in the 26 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 3: girl's bathroom at Baldwin Hills High School. My client is 27 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 3: a junior, sixteen year old female. She's in the bathroom 28 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 3: going to the bathroom gets up all of a sudden. 29 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 3: This isn't like one or two people. There is a 30 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 3: deluge of boys, girls, and the security guard who all 31 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: rush into the bathroom. It's almost like filling like a 32 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 3: movie theater, right, and they're all standing there and then 33 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, this girl just starts wailing and 34 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 3: punching my client in the face. The video is pretty, 35 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: it's pretty if you've seen it, it's pretty shocking. But 36 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 3: that's not it. The most shocking part of all of 37 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: this is the security guard. We have a close up 38 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 3: picture of him still picture from the video, standing there 39 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: in the second row, smiling while he's watching my client, who, 40 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 3: by the way, could have been killed if she had fallen, 41 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 3: hit her head on the toilet or hit her head 42 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: on the ground. So this is as deplorable and shocking 43 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: as it gets. 44 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: What's the response from the school district to anything. 45 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: Pathetic one word pathetic. We don't want to comment. And 46 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: guess what we heard yesterday at the press conference. The 47 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 3: victim's mom told me she had heard from another parent 48 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 3: that the ball Going unified school district had sent this 49 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 3: security guard to another school. So after it happened, he 50 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 3: had been put on aid administrative leave pending an investigation. 51 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 3: By the way, what the investigation should take in all 52 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 3: of sixty seconds, right, just look at the video, and 53 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 3: this guy should have been fired in two seconds. And 54 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 3: now it could very well be that he's out at 55 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 3: another school, deriving pleasure from watching one girl beat up 56 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: another girl. I mean, it was almost like looking it 57 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: was almost like looking at a UFC fight with these 58 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 3: spectators in the bathroom. 59 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm watching it, and the one girl is failing 60 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: away on your client, just punching repeatedly in the face, 61 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: and there is a large crowd of people cheering them 62 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: on from the doorway. 63 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what that proves. That's a great point. 64 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 3: That proves that this, in my opinion, was premeditated. This 65 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 3: wasn't some kind of oh well, I'm going to go 66 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 3: into the bathroom and kick the crap out of that girl. 67 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: I believe, and we're going to prove it in this case, 68 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 3: that that lame security guard knew very well. We think 69 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 3: he knew the assailant as well. My client says he 70 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 3: was friends with her. She scheduled this whole thing to 71 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: happen at one o'clock. How else would you get all 72 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: those people in the bathroom at one o'clock for the fight. 73 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: It was set up, premeditated and in my opinion, guys, 74 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: this is criminal. And I sent a letter to George 75 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: Gascon about about an hour ago and I outlined this 76 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: and I want him to investigate that security guard for 77 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: contributing to the delinquency of a minor. There's a penal 78 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: coach section on that. 79 00:03:58,160 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: I was going to say, what is the security guards 80 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: your responsibility in that case? 81 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 3: Legally? Yeah, well, the security the security guard. You mean, 82 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: the security guard's hired to watch a specific area within 83 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 3: the school. 84 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: Right, But if he's got a dangerous event happening in 85 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: front of him and he stands there, is he liable 86 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: for anything criminally or civilly? 87 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 3: Well, Well that's a great question. I mean there's two factors. 88 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 3: One is, if he had nothing to do with facilitating 89 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: the fight. See that's the difference here. We think he's 90 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: aided and abetted and facilitated the happening of the fight. 91 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: If that's the case, then he should be arrested. If 92 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 3: that's not the case, then he still owes a duty 93 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: to intervene. He's hired as a security guard. Security guard 94 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: that's like a nine to one to one paramedic being 95 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 3: called to a scene and they're going to stand there 96 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 3: and say, oh, I don't know, I don't know about 97 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 3: the person's injured on the ground. I don't know, I 98 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: don't know. It's too dangerous. I don't want to go 99 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 3: in there. Our argument is he has a duty, he 100 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 3: owes a duty to intervene, and let's go one step further. 101 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 3: Even if it's too violent for him to somehow going 102 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 3: in and intervening, the fact that he's smiling, enjoying it. 103 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 3: And by the way, you've got the video, he did 104 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 3: nothing to pick up this fight. That to me is actionable. 105 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: Is there an ongoing dispute between the two girls? 106 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: No? No, no, I asked, I asked my client. She 107 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: was It was a surprise. It was like an ambush, 108 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 3: surprise attack. That's what she told me. I have no 109 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: reason not to believe her. She was caught off guard completely. 110 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 2: They didn't know each other. 111 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 3: I think they may have known each other, but I 112 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 3: don't think from what I've heard from my client, she 113 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 3: didn't have any kind of quarrel with this girl. But 114 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: one other thing I wanted to mention before we're done, 115 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: what we're suing for. It's called negligent hiring, training and supervision. 116 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 3: This is important for schools across the state. It's not 117 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 3: when a school hires somebody, they have to do proper 118 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 3: background checks, proper interviewing, proper training, and proper supervision. For example, 119 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 3: if there were other complaints about this security guard not 120 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 3: helping students right, then that goes to our case to 121 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 3: prove he should have been removed. So it is an 122 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: important case from that standpoint. 123 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: So they're not is school cooperating at all or are 124 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: they stonewalling? No? 125 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 3: Absolutely not. In fact, the last letter we got from 126 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 3: them was we're going to expel your child because she's 127 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 3: a truant. Can you believe that? You need to tell 128 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 3: me their school doesn't know the girls. 129 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,799 Speaker 1: The girls are afraid to go back to school, and 130 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: they're going to expel her. 131 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 3: Exactly. They're going to be right exactly. We have letters. 132 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 3: If it's not enough, we've got letters from them stating 133 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 3: that that they're going to expel her for being a 134 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 3: quote truant. So I had to get ahold of my 135 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 3: client's therapist yesterday and ask the therapist to write a 136 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 3: letter to the school and say, hey, by the way, 137 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 3: did you see the video. The sixteen year old girl 138 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 3: has PTSD. There's a life changing event. That's why she's 139 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: not at your garbage school. So we've got to go 140 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 3: get that letter. 141 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: Does you have any lasting injuries or what was her face? 142 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 3: Well, she had she had a fractured nose and a 143 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 3: black eye. So she's lucky. She's lucky she didn't, you know, 144 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 3: end up with worst physical injuries. The big thing for me, guys, 145 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 3: and you've seen it happen over the years, is somebody 146 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 3: can get hit and if they fall and they hit 147 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 3: their head somewhere, I mean, that can cause bleeding death. 148 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: I mean, so I'm hoping people look at not just 149 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: oh what were the physical injuries and minimize it because 150 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 3: she wasn't hurt more physically severely, but it's what could 151 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 3: have happened had this guy not jumped in and tried 152 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 3: to break up the fight. Look, look, let's let's call 153 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 3: a spade a spade. We don't have two guys fighting 154 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 3: weighing two hundred and fifty pounds in the bathroom. Okay, 155 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: these are two girls and one girl slugging my client. 156 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: You can't grab her from the back and pull her away. 157 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 3: I mean that, there's no excuse, absolutely zero excuse for 158 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 3: him to not intervene. 159 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: All right, Brian, thanks for joining us today, and there's 160 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: always all your passion behind you your client. We appreciate 161 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: talking to you. 162 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you guys for going. 163 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: Does Brian clay Pull, an attorney and his latest client. 164 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: There's a young girl that was beat up in a 165 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: school bathroom at Baldwin Park High School. It's all captured 166 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: on video and a school security guard standing by, even smirking. 167 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: He wanted to enjoy the fight. Are so many public 168 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: schools around here just run by such bad people, I 169 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: mean really bad people. It's just nobody cares about anybody. 170 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 171 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 4: A six forty. 172 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well we were just talking to Brian Claypole, an 173 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 2: attorney for the family of a teenage girl who was 174 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: beaten up badly inside the bathroom of a Baldwin Park 175 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: High school. And the real complaint is that the security 176 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: guard did nothing. Now, he mentioned a couple of times 177 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: that she got hit in the face and had some 178 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 2: injuries to her face, but she could have fallen and 179 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 2: hit her head on a toilet or a sink or 180 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: something like that the floor. It just reminded me that 181 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: there really is no new news in the death of 182 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 2: Paul Kessler. Remember that the Jewish man who died after 183 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 2: the confrontation at the pro Palestinian rally. Yeah, yeahle weekends ago. 184 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: Can you imagine if this is a situation where you know, 185 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: a white guy smacked a black guy in the streets 186 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: and he the black eye, fell and killed himself, there'd 187 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: be crazy protests every day, they'd be forced to arrest somebody. 188 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: Oh I see, But somehow, somehow a Jewish man getting 189 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 1: hit by a Palestinian supporter. The case just faded away. 190 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: There's no seems to be no movement on. It isn't 191 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: even being covered. 192 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: Very much right And again, of course, the belief is 193 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 2: that one of the pro Palestinian demonstrators is supposed to 194 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: be a fifty year old college professor named Lowey al 195 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: Naji is the one that teaches computer scienif and to 196 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 2: our community college that he is the one that swung 197 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 2: the megaphone. Yeah, the ballhorn. I mean, h Kessler already 198 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 2: fell backwards and hit his head, and that he did 199 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: not recover. 200 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: They had plenty of witnesses there. They know that that 201 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: man struck Kessler and Kessler's dead. I really don't understand. 202 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: There could be It could be that they don't file 203 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: charges for months because they want to do a very 204 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 2: thorough investigation. Could be they never file charges. That's the 205 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: investigation for though. I just don't understand. Is they're going 206 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: to pick what kind of man slaughter. They're gonna pick 207 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 2: what kind of exact charge they want to file. I 208 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: don't know. They have to do it. 209 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: They got to think about it for months. 210 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: They're going to interview people, make their case. I mean, 211 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 2: it's yeah, it's coming up in a couple of weeks. 212 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: Did you see that story about the h the Jewish 213 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: people from Detroit who were going to attend the big 214 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,359 Speaker 1: rally yesterday in Washington, d C. Three hundred people Jewish 215 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: and supporters of Israel showed up in Washington, DC, and 216 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: there were planeloads, private planeloads from Detroit, and they landed 217 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: at the airport in Washington. They were private planes, so 218 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: they had buses that were going to pick them up 219 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: right at the tarmac, and the local bus drivers refused to. 220 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: And these people were stuck on the planes for eleven 221 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:11,239 Speaker 1: hours before going back home. Well, it's refused to. They refused. 222 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: They all called in sick at the same time, so 223 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: there's no gust. 224 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: They didn't want to take the teoth to a pro 225 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: Israel rally. Yes, oh wow, that's pretty Do you imagine 226 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: that that's very anti Semitic again? Change that discriminatory where 227 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: it's all the people that yell that stuff. 228 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: Changed exactly, change the races, change the ethnicities. Could you 229 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: ever imagine that that would be allowed to happen for 230 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: eleven hours and then another one just kind of disappears 231 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: into the ether. Wow, there is so much animosity to 232 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: Jews in this country, like way more than I than 233 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: I thought I thought. 234 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: That's just too much sympathy for the Palestinians, you think, and. 235 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: Well that too, Yeah, bad commendation. Again. 236 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 2: They see the Israelis as the invaders like the US, 237 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 2: the Europeans took this land. 238 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: They're they're they're ignorant of history. You know, when you 239 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: don't know stuff and then you just make up a 240 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: fake alternate story, then yeah, I guess that's what you believe, 241 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: except it isn't true. You're just an ignoramus. 242 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: I mean, the Wolkesters are in the land of what 243 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 2: they considered to be the major underdogs. He talked about 244 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: it earlier. The migrants, the homeless, the Palestinians, all major underdogs. 245 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: They get all the help in the sympathy. Don't care 246 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: who the opponent is. 247 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: What the problem is that I know, it's a strange 248 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: cult that's formed in this country. 249 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: All right, I want I just passed this along for 250 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 2: a minute or so and let you think about it. 251 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: The mayor of Los Angeles, Karen Bass, what do you 252 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 2: know she appointed a new person as a chief of staff. 253 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 2: And this new person came from usc H. What do 254 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: we know about Karen Bass and usc. 255 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: Oh, she got a fake free degree, didn't she did? Right? 256 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: The same thing they got Mark Ridley Thomas in trouble. 257 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: Did not get her in trouble. And by the way, 258 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: this person is a former senior advisor to and Tonio 259 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 2: Theodrogosa and also worked for Ridley Thomas knows that for 260 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 2: US No. Six degrees of separation. The name is Carolyn 261 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: web De Masius. 262 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: Boy. If I wanted to get a political genius, I 263 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: picked somebody who advised Vera Gosa and Ridley Thomas Thomas. 264 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 2: I know. 265 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, wow. 266 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: Put her five years old, this is not a youngster. 267 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 2: Put her in charge of the plane now. But as 268 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 2: you know, the connections there between the Karen Bass and USC, 269 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: and that helps she got with her degree Thomas Thomas, 270 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 2: and I mean the comparison was made in his legal 271 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 2: case about her story too and her getting her masters there. 272 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: Bye by the dean of that USC social Yeah, she 273 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: did not pay tuition we gave. We gave her the 274 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: same deal that Ridley Thomas Scott. That's exactly what the 275 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: woman said, right, the dean of the social work what 276 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: was her Flarylynland Flynn. Yes, right, So the perpetrator, the 277 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: co perpetrator of the Ridley Thomas crime, admits she gave 278 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: the same bogus deal to Karen Bass and nobody cared. 279 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: All right, when we come back, we will give you 280 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 2: an update on Israel Hamas. Has been a few developments today. 281 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: Remember a few weeks ago there was a debate over 282 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: who bombed a hospital and of course it was an 283 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 2: errand missile by Hamas sympathizers, not the Israeli Defense forces. 284 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 2: But there's another controversy concerning a hospital in the news, 285 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: and Israel says it has provided proof of what they 286 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: really believe to be true about this hospital. 287 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 288 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 4: AM six forty. 289 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: On the radio one till four after four o'clock. 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Well, 299 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 2: we haven't talked much this week about Israel versus Hamas. 300 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 2: Big development today and this has been the subject for 301 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: a couple of days is this large medical facility in 302 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: Gaza called Al Shifa Hospital, and of course Hamas would 303 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: like the world to think, oh, here come the Israelis 304 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 2: are gonna come in here and blow up another hospital, right, 305 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: They're gonna kill innocent people who were undergoing medical treatments 306 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 2: for injuries or sicknesses. But Israel said, we think this 307 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: is a Hamas headquarters hideout, and they were correct. This 308 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: afternoon they provided proof with a video showing what they 309 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: seized inside this hospital in Gaza, and it's a display 310 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: of various assorted weapons that they laid out on a 311 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: rug and showed everybody. They said that they encountered terrorists 312 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 2: and encountered explosive devices and terror cells. They said it 313 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: was a very precise and targeted operation on the hospital, 314 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 2: and they believe that they were right. 315 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot of nasty weapons that they had 316 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: laid out on the rug there. So it's a real thing. 317 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: It was not an urban legend. There really was a 318 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: major Hamas terrorist center underneath the hospital. 319 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 2: It says following this, during searches in one of the 320 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: departments of the hospital, the troops located a room with 321 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: technological assets along with military and combat equipment used by 322 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: the Hamas terrorist organization. The footage shows Israeli officers sorting 323 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 2: through the guns, the ammunition and the weapons. Reportedly, people 324 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 2: put that word still in because the Israelis could have 325 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 2: made this up and just put weapons down on a 326 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: rug and said, hey, look we look what we found. 327 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 2: Now dealing with this, Fox just released a poll that 328 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 2: was taken over the last several days and the question 329 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 2: was and then the least conflict, who do you aside 330 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: more with sixty six percent, the Israelis only twenty two percent, 331 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 2: the Palestinians eight percent couldn't decide, So it's not a 332 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 2: big change from where it was. In fact, it was 333 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: sixty eight percent in October, and actually it was down 334 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: at fifty nine percent for Israel back in May of 335 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. So clearly the October seventh attacks did 336 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: to change people's mind about what Israel is facing with 337 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 2: the Hamas terrorists. And I keep hearing this on the 338 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: subject of the ceasefire, Israel is saying, and I think 339 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 2: they're right. Nobody told the US after nine to eleven 340 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 2: that there should be a ceasefire. They went right into 341 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: Afghanistan and tried to hunt down the terrace. That's what 342 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,719 Speaker 2: we're doing. Yeah, Nobody said stop cease fire because some 343 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 2: civilians might be killed, and there's all consequences of the 344 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: collateral damage. But these no one said cease fire. 345 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 1: It's all emotional manipulation because everybody wants to believe in peace. Right, 346 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: let's have a cease fire. Five minutes after they slaughtered 347 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: fourteen hundred Israelis, let's have a ceasefire, what so they 348 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: could reload and kill another fourteen hundred. That's ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. 349 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: It's like calling for a ceasefire on the day after 350 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: Pearl Harbor. What the hell are you talking about. You 351 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: started the war. Now we're gonna go and crush you. 352 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,719 Speaker 1: And after we finished crushing you, then we'll have a ceasefire. 353 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: Hamas Is, You're look at it, real evil. If you 354 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: don't believe in evil, look at the picture of Hamas 355 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: soldiers and AMAS leaders. That is evil. That's what the 356 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: devil spawned. They really should all be slaughtered. 357 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: The sensational story I think it was last weekend. I 358 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: saw it as a headline. It was a picture too 359 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 2: that Israel claimed among one of the Hamas terrorists they 360 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 2: found an Arabic version of minkof. 361 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: Well. 362 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: Just to add to the Nazi Hitler thing. 363 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, Well, because Hitler was very successful at eradicating 364 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: Jewish people. 365 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 2: So someone was doing the research. I guess that's right. 366 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 2: I mean, you want to read an Arabic version of 367 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: one of that book if you want. If you want 368 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 2: to kill millions of Jewish people, yeah, you'd go to 369 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 2: the Hitler collection, right. 370 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's this modern day Nazism. And history repeats itself 371 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: in that there were all kinds of apologists and defenders 372 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: of Hitler back in the nineteen thirties too, including Appeaser's 373 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 1: the nevill Chamberlain. Remember with Great Britain, and even there 374 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: are many Americans who were anti anti Jewish and look 375 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: the other way. Franklin Roosevelt reportedly knew all about the 376 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: Holocaust that was happening, but Jews were being sent into ovens. 377 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: But he didn't want to get involved in another European war. 378 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: You know, memories were fresh from World War One one, 379 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: and he figured the public wasn't going to be up 380 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: for saving the Jews in Germany. And it was only 381 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: until you know, Pearl Harbor happened that we then jumped 382 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: into these wars. 383 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 2: Well, and I understand that sentiment because it's often is 384 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: the case like why should the US be involved in 385 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 2: everyone else's wars? Why all the time that we have 386 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 2: to spend the money and send the troops in. I mean, 387 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: that's been popular to be more isolationist when it comes 388 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 2: to some conflict because the wars never end, you see, 389 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: I mean, we've got we've got you know, the the 390 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: the Afghanistan war went on twenty years, more than ten 391 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 2: years after we killed Bin Laden, right, right, because the 392 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: war was supposed to be to wipe out al Qaeda, 393 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 2: and then it turned into trying to build a democracy 394 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: in Afghanistan. 395 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 1: Same thing in a rock. Well, we all know that 396 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: was a huge disaster. And you know, I have come 397 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: over to the side that I do think a lot 398 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: of these things are set up just to feed money 399 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: to the military industrial complex, the mother of all industrial complexes. 400 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: You know that there's always a raw rock component because 401 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: in turn, those companies feed a lot of political campaigns, 402 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: and then there's a lot of congressional districts that have 403 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: military bases as well, and that needs funding. And so 404 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: there is a huge financial infrastructure to invent wars, get 405 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: involved in things that we have no business being involved 406 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: in or to extend wars for twenty years past their 407 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: due date. 408 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 2: That's why you have to look very carefully at every 409 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 2: conflict and figure out what's really at stake here before 410 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: you just charge it and say show we should send 411 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: men and supplies, or no, just fold their arms and 412 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 2: say screw them, let them fight their own battles. I mean, 413 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: they're all different. And the difference with Israel is that 414 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: there's a connection to this country that's existed for many decades, 415 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: and of course the whole establishment of Israel back in 416 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 2: the late forties is why we're very attached to that 417 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: part of the world and what happens there. They remain 418 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 2: up to two hundred and thirty eight Hamas hostages in Gaza. 419 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 2: It's a pretty precise number. Ten of them are believed 420 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,959 Speaker 2: to be Americans, and of course the Hamas run Gaza 421 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: Health Ministry is claiming that more than eleven two hundred 422 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: Gozzins have been killed in this fighting, although as Fox 423 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: News points out, they don't distinguish between Palestinian civilians and 424 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 2: the Hamas terrorists. They just give you a number. 425 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 4: So you're listening to John and Ken on demand from 426 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 4: KFI AM six forty. 427 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 2: Now the Postathon is back. It's the thirteenth John thirteenth 428 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: annual Pastathon. 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We'll be 437 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 2: broadcasting all the KFI hosts live all day the Anaheim 438 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 2: White House on Giving Tuesday, November twenty eighth. Come out 439 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 2: and see us from five am all the way up 440 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,719 Speaker 2: till ten pm. One hundred percent of your nation goes 441 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 2: to Caterina's Club. Help at pastathon dot com. Well, it's 442 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 2: a story that got my attention last night. Let's just 443 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 2: say it was eye opening. A Wisconsin woman has been 444 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 2: found guilty of murder. 445 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: By eye drops. Mean, that's not unusual, that's a first. 446 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: Her name is Jesse kurzes I think it's Polish Cuskuzuski. 447 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 2: You have to figure right out what's what spell it 448 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: ku r cz e wsk i Kurzowsky yeh, because it's cz. 449 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's uh, that's a cheer sound and then the 450 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: W would be a V sense, So it's Kurczowsky, all right. 451 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 2: Jesse was crying in court. She was convicted of killing 452 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 2: sixty one year old Lynn her Nan five years ago 453 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: by using a fatal dose of the main ingredient in 454 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 2: eye drops, which is tetra hydrozylene. They found her guilty too, 455 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 2: for stealing from her Nan. Now the way this worked, 456 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: this is why it took five years. The case was 457 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: not opened until twenty twenty one because she told investigators, oh, 458 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: she killed herself, and apparently they were ready to believe that. 459 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 2: Police were called by Krzyski by Jesse to the house 460 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 2: and saying, my friend's not breathing. They found her dead, 461 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 2: with crushed medication on her chest and a nearby plate so. 462 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 2: Jesse later told them that she brought the woman a 463 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: water bottle loaded with six bottles worth of vizine, alleging 464 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 2: that she didn't think it would kill her friend because 465 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 2: she'd been drinking it for so long. Really, he'll drink 466 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 2: faizine anyway. So during the three week trial, defense attorney 467 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 2: claimed that this woman committed suicide because she was depressed, sick, 468 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 2: and abusing medication. Everyone at the scene concluded it was 469 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 2: a suicide. Ladies and gentlemen, it's a suicide and it 470 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 2: looked like a suicide. But the jury did not buy it, 471 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 2: and the prosecution said Jesse was up to getting some money. 472 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: She killed her nand to defraud her out of nearly 473 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 2: three hundred thousand dollars, which included money from her estate. 474 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 2: Her nand's friend. The next boyfriend, testified during the trial 475 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: that the sixty one year old woman that died was 476 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 2: frugal but would not have allowed Jesse to spend large 477 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 2: amounts of her money. She was like her caretaker, I 478 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 2: guess what she was, called her a friend, but she 479 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: was a paid caretaker. 480 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: You know, you got there's so many like weirdos that 481 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: end up in the caretaking industry. I mean, my father 482 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: in law had a caretaker. After my brother in law 483 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: and this woman came over the house and like within 484 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: two days, it's stolen money from them. Oh yeah, I 485 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: mean you just don't know what's coming through the door. 486 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: Often it's it's like delons. Ex cons get these caretaking 487 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: jobs really and they work at the hospitals too. 488 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 2: It's a tough place to hire people, and the wages 489 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 2: are not no. 490 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: The wages are terrible unless you want to pay you 491 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: have to have the money to pay for yeah, for 492 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: a high end, high end medical care. You know, there's 493 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: real nurses out there you could hire for a lot 494 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: of money. 495 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 2: And it's like if you go into assisted living, you 496 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 2: can get a really nice place, or you can go, 497 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 2: you know, on low end. 498 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: But you you know, there's a lot of people who 499 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: do this this home care work because there's nothing else 500 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: they can do. It's, you know, there's some bottom of 501 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: the barrel jobs there. 502 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 2: Then a lot of people want to stay in their home, 503 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 2: so they have to hire people to come in and 504 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,239 Speaker 2: take care of some of their life functions. 505 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: And that can be a that's right, you dude, you're 506 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: not getting a lot of college graduates as because my parents. 507 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 2: Had a parade of these workers over the last years 508 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 2: of their life and nobody stole from them. But yeah, 509 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: there was some questions about a few of them. 510 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I'm terrified. To them, why are you 511 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: doing this? This is terrible work. What are you doing here? 512 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: Where are you running from? What's your real nath? You 513 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: said that to them, now you were thinking I was 514 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: thinking that when they came in. What are you running from? 515 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 3: Well? 516 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: Yes, but did you change your name and you moved 517 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: from another state and you've become. 518 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 2: People are just born care take now, there's no such thing. 519 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 5: No, uh conways here Hey, now, I was listening to 520 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 5: your mayor bass Oh John, yeah, just John, not by mayor. 521 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: Yes it is. 522 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 2: He did not vote for her. 523 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: Doesn't matter. You live in LA, that's your bear. 524 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 5: And she said the commute last night was lighter than normal, 525 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 5: Like if that freeway was open, it would have been 526 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 5: a little heavier. And I'm like, who is buying that? 527 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 5: She's so full, who's buying that? Yeah, lighter than noise. 528 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: Some people took the week off just to see if this. 529 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 5: Oh, I'm sure they did. Yeah, but we got to 530 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 5: come up with a different term for telec muting. It's 531 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 5: not it's not what it's called, not a commute. It's 532 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 5: not a telephone we use anymore. No, and you're not commuting, right, 533 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 5: and it's it's like, you know, they don't call. You know, 534 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 5: you never say I'm going to get a horse drawn 535 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 5: cab to the airport. That's gone away. Telecommuting has gone 536 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 5: away as well. But yes, I will. But the but 537 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 5: the freeway is are a nightmare. They're not lighter than normal. 538 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 5: People are pulling their hair out and they're and the 539 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 5: surface streets are jammed everywhere. 540 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, you just look at a map with the signalt 541 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: map right, it's a night you. 542 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 5: See red wine stretching everywhere. But doesn't Maribeth know that 543 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 5: we have the Internet. 544 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: We can look at that. I don't know. I don't 545 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: know why these people lie so easily. It's like a 546 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: reflex with them. They just lie and they lie and 547 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: they lie, and you know, I guess they all get 548 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: taught in propaganda school that if you keep repeating the 549 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 1: same lie, eventually it's going to stick for a big percentage. 550 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 5: I heard her say that from a helicopter today and 551 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 5: I and I had to rewind it alone going it. 552 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 5: Did she just say what I thought? She said, The 553 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 5: commute is lighter than normal. I saw it in the helicopter. 554 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 5: It's like, we do you what do you do? Everybody 555 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 5: else is stuck crawling at three miles an hour down 556 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 5: on the ground, right and her and that fire chief 557 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 5: for you know up in Felix's you know, helicopter. Then 558 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 5: the Test and Hangar is going to be demolished in 559 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 5: the coming days. 560 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: The Test and Hangar, it's going to be demolished. 561 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 5: I wonder if they're talking about the other one, you know, 562 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 5: the one that's not burning, because that one's got to 563 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 5: come down to I don't know. They've got to bring 564 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 5: them both down. And that's not a million dollar clean 565 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 5: up job there. That's like two hundred and fifty millions. 566 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 3: You know. 567 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 5: That's one of those super you know what they call 568 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 5: super fun DPAs. They're huge. They're huge, and they and 569 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 5: they're not making any money. You got to turn that 570 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 5: into a pizza Hut or Walmart and get people spending 571 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 5: money again. That's what they do in Irvin. I'm I'm 572 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 5: I'm of those people. I want more mini malls. I 573 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 5: want more seven elevens, more pizza huts cos there's not 574 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 5: enough Boba places. We need more Bolba. We need all 575 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 5: that crap, more of it, more and more and more 576 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 5: and more and more more. Mister high end. Yes, after park, 577 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 5: except the waterfalls. Enough with them. 578 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: Among the elites. 579 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 5: No, people don't like waterfalls. They like drive through Starbucks, 580 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 5: more Starbucks, less water. 581 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: You have any wealthy tastes, like any you know, snobby 582 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: kind of taste, you know. 583 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 5: I like that Tobra Loane Chocolate Bar. That's about that's 584 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 5: where that that triangle. 585 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: That's where you're play. 586 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 5: Oh man, I could eat a whole sack of those. 587 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 5: John all right, yeah, he's he's among the elites. Okay, 588 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 5: big dog. 589 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: Ye live in News. 590 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 2: Hey, you've been listening to the John and Ken Show. 591 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 2: You can always hear us live on caf I AM 592 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 2: six forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, 593 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 2: and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app