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Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. We'relling

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Speaker 1: along here on the drive on a Monday to the

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Speaker 1: phone lines. We go to talk to the voice of

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Speaker 1: your Pittsburgh Steelers, Rob King, who was there by the

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Speaker 1: lake at Huntington bank Field. I was sitting right behind

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Speaker 1: him throughout that Brown's thirteen Steelers six disappointing performance yesterday.

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Speaker 1: There in an opportunity for the Steelers to clench the

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Speaker 1: AFC North Kinger, where are you at today? Are you

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Speaker 1: looking ahead optimistically? You know, Matt and I kind of

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Speaker 1: towed the line in the opening segment of Hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's still the AFC North to play for. It's such

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Speaker 1: a week to week league verse. You had a real

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Speaker 1: opportunity to wrap this thing up. You had a real

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Speaker 1: opportunity to rest and give some of your veteran guys,

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Speaker 1: you know, a blow on Sunday and have a one

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Speaker 1: o'clock kickoff that meant nothing against Baltimore and now it

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Speaker 1: means everything on on Sunday night football in primetime. Where

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Speaker 1: are you at in terms of your optimistic pessimistic glass

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Speaker 1: half full, glass half empty?

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Speaker 2: Here?

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Speaker 1: You know, about twenty four hours later.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all. It's all that my glasses medium full.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm some of it's negative and some of

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Speaker 2: it's positive. I mean, you know, you lost three straight

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Speaker 2: games in Cleveland to go up there and beat him down,

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Speaker 2: and you know, it's a team. Look, the crowd was,

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Speaker 2: you know, it was like half full at kickoff, as

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Speaker 2: people started appearing, you know, by the end of the game,

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Speaker 2: it was full and the crowd was into it. But

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Speaker 2: it just felt like, boy, if if you somehow could

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Speaker 2: have gotten on top of him early and ushered him,

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Speaker 2: you know, to the to the exit and you know,

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Speaker 2: just kind of won comfortably. That's what I was hoping for,

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Speaker 2: kind of a you know, a repeat of the first

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Speaker 2: meeting between the two teams, in which you didn't do

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Speaker 2: anything dramatic, but you just simply won the game and

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Speaker 2: you're just a better team and you sort of slowly

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Speaker 2: methodically beat them, and you know you didn't and it's

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Speaker 2: you know, highly disappointing that you didn't do that. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure they're disappointed he didn't do that. You know, there's

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Speaker 2: some malarkey coming out of the game about oh, all

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Speaker 2: they cared about was you know, not letting Miles Garrett

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Speaker 2: break the sack record, which, by the way, a narrative

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Speaker 2: that is, as far as I know, began with Miles Garrett,

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Speaker 2: continued with Miles Garrett after the game, and which I

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Speaker 2: don't buy in the least. Uh, But you know that

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Speaker 2: that was disappointing. You had a real opportunity there, and

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Speaker 2: now you have to win a game, right and and

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Speaker 2: you know, with that comes the notion that you could

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Speaker 2: just play a poor game, or a call could go

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Speaker 2: against you, or something in that nature in a against

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Speaker 2: an opponent in which you're evenly matched, So you let

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Speaker 2: an opportunity to slip away. And that's just the way

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Speaker 2: it is. But you still have a chance to win

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Speaker 2: the as Nord. And by the way, and I'm sure

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Speaker 2: we'll get to this, I still think there were some

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Speaker 2: things that the Steelers continued to do well in this game,

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Speaker 2: but ultimately it's hard on Monday not to be disappointed

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Speaker 2: with what happened yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that, honestay. With the defense, I mean

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Speaker 3: I think they got after the quarterback well, I thought

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Speaker 3: they stuffed the run. Well, I thought they wanted the

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Speaker 3: line of scrimmage. And you know, outside of the first

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Speaker 3: couple series. I thought the defense more than played well

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Speaker 3: enough to win this football game. They took the ball away,

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Speaker 3: they could have had probably another I mean, there was

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Speaker 3: potential there for two pick sixes. One of them didn't

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Speaker 3: even end up being a pick, but I think early.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying the game was lost, but you kind

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Speaker 3: of injected the Browns with hope right off the bat.

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Speaker 3: You know, by the way that you played defense in

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Speaker 3: the first series or two, it was.

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Speaker 2: Very similar to what we saw a week ago with them.

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Speaker 2: Matt and I know you talked about this, and certainly

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Speaker 2: Max and I talked about it as well. You know,

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Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski's a very good offensive coach. I don't even

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Speaker 2: see them with faint praise, right He's won two Go

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Speaker 2: to the Year awards. To talk about that however you want,

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Speaker 2: a very good offensive mind. Had a great jove. I

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Speaker 2: was talking to the guys from Cleveland before the game,

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Speaker 2: sad it might have been their best drive of the season,

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Speaker 2: the opening drive against the Bills. They came out and

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Speaker 2: I thought the Steelers, you know, I would have liked

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Speaker 2: in the game. But ultimately, when you allow a team

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Speaker 2: ten points on their home field, and then you know,

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Speaker 2: they got the late field goal when you went for

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Speaker 2: really you shut them out after that. If you allow

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Speaker 2: ten points, you should win the game. There were a

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Speaker 2: lot of things that happened in this game that if

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Speaker 2: you told me that was what was going to happen,

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Speaker 2: you should win the game by the same token. You're right, Matt,

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Speaker 2: there was a you know, it's a bit of a

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Speaker 2: tone setter, and tone setters are they're not statistic, but

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Speaker 2: they're not irrelevant either, and so I thought that there

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely. I think there were a lot of those

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Speaker 1: tone setters early on for Cleveland that kept them believing,

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Speaker 1: kept them in the game. As you mentioned, it was

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Speaker 1: a uncharacteristically flat Brown's crowd. For as as disappointing as

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Speaker 1: wasn't really until you know, that eight minute drive that

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Speaker 1: ended with a Chris Boswell miss that it felt like

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Speaker 1: the crowd really came alive when it was still you know,

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Speaker 1: ten to six at that point and they were chanting

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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett's name and all that stuff. Kinger, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to ask you just about you know, kind of piggybacking

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Speaker 1: off of that though. Guys, I'm not breaking any news here.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to score more than six points at

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Speaker 1: home next week to beat the Baltimore Ravens. I don't

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Speaker 1: care if it's Huntley or Lamar Jackson at quarterback. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna need to score more than six. Dk Metcalf isn't

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Speaker 1: not going to be there. Rob to me, this is

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Speaker 1: you know, it's a time where you're searching for answers

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Speaker 1: and there's not a lot of easy context clues for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with what you're saying. You know, by

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Speaker 2: the same token, you know, there were there were a

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Speaker 2: number of small plays that happened in this game. That

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Speaker 2: a different result, maybe a different approach, and who knows

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Speaker 2: what happens. So, for example, you just talked about the

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Speaker 2: you know, the miss Chris Boswell field goal. Well, uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, Aaron Rodgers gets sacked to play before that, right,

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Speaker 2: and you know, if you throw the ball away there

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Speaker 2: don't get a sacked. You know, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: necessarily ascribe blame because you know, I don't go back

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Speaker 2: and don't I don't get a chance to see the replay, right,

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Speaker 2: I don't get a chance to see what happened. But

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Speaker 2: you know, if that's six yards closer, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: going in that direction in which you know, watching pregame warmups,

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Speaker 2: guys were were barely making you know, long forties or

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Speaker 2: fifty yard field goals. So that did Chris posible five

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Speaker 2: talk about the decision to go up the sideline to

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Speaker 2: Scottie Miller on the fourth and one, moving in the

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Speaker 2: opposite direction earlier in the game. I would have liked

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Speaker 2: to have seen the see this run the ball there

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Speaker 2: and you know, they lined up in a spread, then

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Speaker 2: came back into an eye formation, and then they're standing

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Speaker 2: the right uh, you know, the right formation, and Dylan

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Speaker 2: Cook jumps. You know, I wouldn't mind seeing you just

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Speaker 2: line up there and say, hey, listen, we're gonna get

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Speaker 2: a foot. Let's line up in the eye formation and

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Speaker 2: get it. Let's go Steel City, shove and get it.

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Speaker 2: There were a lot of moments like that, and when

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Speaker 2: you look back at the game, yeah, you got to

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Speaker 2: score more than six points. They ran the ball effectively.

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Speaker 2: They were three for fifteen on third down, three for fifteen,

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Speaker 2: zero for three on fourth down. That's just not going

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Speaker 2: to win the ball game. And a lot of those,

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Speaker 2: as I was just mentioning, were manageables and some plays

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Speaker 2: that just you know, you want a second guest to

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Speaker 2: play calling and whatever whatever you want to do, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't at this stage of the game. It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: What matters is you were three for fifteen on third

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Speaker 2: not gonna win games, and you do that, and so

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Speaker 2: you only score six points, but there were opportunities to

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Speaker 2: score more than six points.

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Speaker 3: Let's stick with Rogers real quick, Rob. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: can't remember an NFL game where a quarterback got less

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Speaker 3: help from their wide receivers. I'm not talking about their

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Speaker 3: pass catchers, they're the wide receiver position. But he also

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Speaker 3: missed some throws. He made some throws he didn't, as

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Speaker 3: he often has this year, elevate those around him against

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Speaker 3: on him or not. I think some Monday morning quarterbackings

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Speaker 3: involved here too. I would have liked to see the

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Speaker 3: higher percentage of runs that were working well, maybe more

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Speaker 3: targets to Warren and especially gain Well and Friarmouth as well,

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Speaker 3: maybe even John him, you know, you know, and I

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Speaker 3: don't know if that's Rogers or what I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: I'm not even blaming him.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's no short answer to this, yeause, so

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna give you a longer answer, which

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Speaker 2: is that you know, we're praising Aaron Rodgers for making

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Speaker 2: decisions to line of scrimmage and taking command a things.

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Speaker 2: It's been a big part of why they've been successful.

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Speaker 2: It's been a big part of why your offense look

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Speaker 2: really good at Baltimore, look really good against Miami, and

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Speaker 2: look phenomenal against Detroit. We're all praising Aaron Rodgers for

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Speaker 2: when they have the audio telling Kenneth game well, motion

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Speaker 2: out right and run a go route. You know. I

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Speaker 2: mean you talk about drawing it up in the dirt

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Speaker 2: on the fly in a game. He's got those capabilities.

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Speaker 2: In this game, it looked to me, I'm not in

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Speaker 2: the huddle, I'm not at the line of scrimmage. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what plays are changing out of or into.

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Speaker 2: It looked to me like when they changed out of plays,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't effective as it's been. And when that happens,

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Speaker 2: what's gonna happen, You're gonna say they should have run

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Speaker 2: the ball more. I brought up this, this, this, and

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Speaker 2: you know a similar circumstance to me, where Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: makes a call to line of scrimmage which has been

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Speaker 2: effective more often than it's not been affected. It's against

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Speaker 2: the Chargers. Late, you need a score, You're starting to

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Speaker 2: run the ball more effectively. You got a second and six.

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Speaker 2: You've got to look. I think it was a sweep

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Speaker 2: to the right call. That's the way everybody moved. But

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Speaker 2: and and a quarterback has these abilities to just you know,

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Speaker 2: And and you can't anticipate that Bud's gonna do that, right,

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Speaker 2: So I want air and and that's a play that

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Speaker 3: No, but but.

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Speaker 2: Yes, maybe make some of those decisions running the ball. Look, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean I said, Matt, you know you and I

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Speaker 2: will say this, the other point you made in there.

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Speaker 2: You know that receiving corps, the five wide receivers that

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Speaker 2: because Steeling had a few catches at the Vikings, but

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Speaker 2: as a group, as a collective, as Steelers pass catchers,

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Speaker 2: they had twenty eight receptions between them, twenty eight and

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Speaker 2: the Browns know that too. They've had an excellent defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: Did they scheme against that? Hey man? I leave those

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Speaker 2: I'm not paid to be an offensive coordinator, and I

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Speaker 2: don't Matt, you and I were having a conversation earlier

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Speaker 2: at it. Here's a freeze frame of game. Well was

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Speaker 2: I didn't see it that way. He didn't see it

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Speaker 2: what I'd like to see him run the ball more

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Speaker 2: I think I answered your question fourteen differently.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you mentioned how they did do a lot

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, they ran the ball well, they were These

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Speaker 2: They've done well against the run. You know, certain play

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Speaker 2: like I think Cam Heyward's playing his best football. I

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Speaker 2: They didn't run the ball effectively against Baltimore, but they've

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Speaker 2: turnover culture, right, They've won ten straight games in which

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Speaker 2: they won the turnover battle. That didn't happen. They won

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Speaker 2: counted as turnovers. They're not. You'd won ten straight games,

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Speaker 2: not only did in which you hadn't turned I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: ten straight games in which you hadn't turned the ball over.

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Speaker 2: They didn't turn them all over, and they got to turnovers.

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Speaker 2: So many things that happened in this game that if

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Speaker 2: we'll find out Sunday night, right, Because if you're if

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Speaker 1: And they're gonna have to go out and play on

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Speaker 1: Sunday night in prime time, Rob King, I know you're

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Speaker 1: excited about that baby on Sunday, listen.

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Speaker 2: Man, with with the emotions are like, you're bumming because

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Speaker 2: and your favored to beat and I know you've had

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Speaker 2: But as this week goes on, the knowledge in the

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be so exciting Sunday night at Acre. Sure.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait for that, man, I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: I would have rather had Aaron Rodgers resting that left

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Speaker 1: Steelers Audio Network. Kinger, thanks for the time, as always, partner,

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 2: You got it, guys, Thanks very much.

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Speaker 1: There he goes Voice of your Pittsburgh Steelers, Rob King

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Speaker 1: plenty to get into there that he touched on. Matt

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