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Speaker 2: It's time love and love and love no Welcome to

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Speaker 2: the naughty but nine, charm your hands, strong shooter, and

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Speaker 2: it's Friday, which means and dear friend Corey Andrew joins us.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Corey, are you there?

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Speaker 3: I am here with my be.

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Speaker 2: I love your bells. We need your bells. It's been

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Speaker 2: quite a week, hasn't it. The Rob Reiner story has

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Speaker 2: dominated the headlines. Thank you for all your kind notes.

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Speaker 2: I've been doing a ton of TV about this story.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday I take to the Anderson Cooper special. He's doing

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Speaker 2: a special on Rob Ryaner. Thank you for all your

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Speaker 2: nice notes. I've been all over the where. I think,

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Speaker 2: really it's because our stories and news is so good.

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Speaker 2: We have excellent sources in LA and that's why we're

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Speaker 2: breaking the biggest news here. It's so so gratifying to

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Speaker 2: me that we're holding our own with the big boys,

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Speaker 2: York Podium and zas of this world. We punch our

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Speaker 2: little show punches above its weight. And that's partly because

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Speaker 2: of you. Naughti's and you too, Corey. You bring so

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Speaker 2: much to their table. Let's jump in.

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Speaker 1: Did you just say I do.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I said thank you.

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Speaker 1: No, I haven't gotten that thank you. It sounds like

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Speaker 1: I do. Okay, let's jump into the show. I do

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Speaker 1: what time is it? My friends?

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Speaker 2: It is time? Big story at the top of the show.

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Speaker 2: So before the tragic death of his parents, Nick Ryana

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Speaker 2: struggled with loneliness and heartbreak. Insiders are telling me that

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Speaker 2: just weeks before the brutal murder of his parents, Nick

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Speaker 1: He was struggling. We could see.

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Speaker 2: It is very clear now that this is a very

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Speaker 2: troubled young boy. He had trouble connecting. He wanted a

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Speaker 2: everything had ended badly. I'm told that he had tried

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Speaker 2: online dating, which a lot of young people do. It

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Speaker 2: It's really, really, really tough. And for somebody who has

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Speaker 2: that in this might have pushed him all over the edge.

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Speaker 2: Once again, I want to make clear here we are

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Speaker 2: not excusing the fact that somebody wasn't kind to him,

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Speaker 2: but we can still tell truth about this.

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Speaker 1: We have to be really careful.

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Speaker 2: I think one of the reasons this story Corey is resonating,

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Speaker 2: it is going nowhere. All the numbers I'm getting on

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Speaker 2: my substanding and podcasting have gone up. Yeah, because people

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Speaker 2: are so interested in this story. And I think it's

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Speaker 2: because not only was Rob Reiner and his wife, his

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Speaker 2: it would have been terrible and we would have mourned it.

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Speaker 2: it would have been terrible and we would have mourned it. However,

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Speaker 3: There's so many common denominators with this story that we

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Speaker 3: I find it to be a human interest story because

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Speaker 2: So where's that money coming from. There's any one place.

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna tell you right now, you were threatened

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Speaker 2: Oh there's pictures of you Google Matt Gutman. So Matt

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Speaker 2: Gutman was on the ABC for twenty years. I've met

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Speaker 2: him a few times. He's tiny, Tom Cruise, Tom Cruise.

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Speaker 3: Don't ruin the fantasy.

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Speaker 1: So you can still be sexy, sexy, Cory, you can

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Speaker 2: He's adorable and the pictures that he posted got him

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Speaker 1: Good looking guy. But it is so interesting. Even at

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Speaker 2: I don't get jealous corey of people's looks. I definitely

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Speaker 2: Howard Stern is somebody I'm jealous of. He interviews people

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Speaker 3: Listen for every photo you see, there's a thousand that

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Speaker 2: Trump is going to be very very sparsely seen in

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Speaker 2: Milania's new documentary, So a big, big new documentary. I

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Speaker 3: So Princesses Eugene and Beatrice invite it to Christmas without

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Speaker 1: No, it's about pushing that door you're staring at right now.

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